=== jono is now known as Guest95491 === doko_ is now known as doko === emma is now known as em === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying [15:04] * slangasek waves [15:05] * stgraber waves [15:05] sorry I'm late... fighting with a dying laptop this week :/ [15:05] hi [15:05] o/ [15:06] hi [15:06] #startmeeting [15:06] Meeting started Thu Oct 24 15:06:40 2013 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:06] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [15:06] [TOPIC] Lightning round === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round [15:07] $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox stokachu) [15:07] doko stgraber bdmurray jodh xnox cjwatson stokachu barry slangasek [15:07] doko: you're first :) [15:08] - archive opening [15:08] - arm64 fixes [15:08] - forwarded arm64 patches to Debian [15:08] - scanned arm64 build logs and files bugs (only) in Debian [15:08] - Linaro toolchain updates [15:08] - MIR's, promotions, fixing ftbfs [15:08] (done) [15:09] doko: anything noteworthy in the Linaro toolchain updates? [15:10] no, already had most of these changes [15:10] ok [15:10] (Once again didn't have time for a fancy weekly report, was busy fighting with graphviz) [15:10] Ubuntu 13.10 release. [15:10] Some help with 14.04 opening. [15:10] Quite a few merges and help with ongoing transitions. [15:10] Working on LXC upstream QA infrastructure, release 1.0~alpha2 and usual code reviews. [15:10] Some debug work on Ubuntu Touch. [15:10] (DONE) [15:11] bug triage (lots of release upgrade reports) [15:11] triage and SRU verification of bug 1241420 [15:11] tested ubiquity bug 1240683 [15:11] worked on a fix for apport bug 1084979 [15:11] fixed software-properties bug 1239893 [15:11] bug 1241420 in libunity (Ubuntu Saucy) "unity held back if ubuntu-desktop is not installed during upgrade from raring to saucy (upgrade fails)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1241420 [15:11] prepared S SRUs for bug 1075537 and bug 1239893 [15:11] bug 1240683 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu one login during install hangs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1240683 [15:11] bug 1084979 in apport (Ubuntu) "Submitting error report asks confounding questions" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1084979 [15:11] bug 1239893 in software-properties (Ubuntu Saucy) "PPAs added using GUI Software and Updates have an extra space added to repository line" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1239893 [15:11] bug 1075537 in software-properties (Ubuntu Saucy) "software-properties needs to automatically trigger a cache refresh after adding a repo" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1075537 [15:11] SRU verification of bug 1075537 [15:11] fixed ubuntu-release-upgrader bug 1241123, bug 1241660 [15:11] preparing an SRU upload fixing bug 1232363 [15:11] update metarelease file for saucy-updates and trusty [15:11] investigation into possible procps regresssion bug 1157643 [15:11] bug 1241123 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Saucy) "lubuntu-desktop PostUpgradeRemove rule is unnecessary and problematic" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1241123 [15:11] bug 1241660 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "DistUpgradeFetcherCore error messages not displayed" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1241660 [15:11] bug 1232363 in update-manager (Ubuntu Saucy) "Update Manager Restart button fails on xubuntu" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1232363 [15:11] bug 1157643 in procps (Ubuntu Trusty) "procps fail to start" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157643 [15:11] updated the phased updater to ignore already installed and configured pkg install failures [15:11] updated rls- and isotesting reports for trusty [15:12] ✔ done [15:12] * Boot [15:12] - Fixed bug 1240686. [15:12] - Investigating overcoming ptrace limitations. [15:12] - Fixed minor Session Init-specific issue in 'initctl check-config'. [15:12] bug 1240686 in upstart "Upstart overrides the user's umask" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1240686 [15:12] - Identified cause of bug 901038. [15:12] bug 901038 in upstart (Ubuntu) "packages fail to install: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/901038 [15:12] - Wrote a fix for bug 1235649. [15:12] bug 1235649 in upstart (Ubuntu) "uevent spam causes libdbus client code in session upstart to consume massive amounts of memory on Ubuntu Touch" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1235649 [15:12] https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/upstart/bugs-1235649+1203595/+merge/191852 [15:12] Original solution was generic but suffered from an annoying [15:12] limitation. After discussions with slangasek, we now have a superior [15:12] (albeit very d-bus specific) solution that doesn't suffer from the [15:12] original fixes limitation. Currently working on the new solution. [15:12] - Raised new MP on salvaged new environ_remove() tests from MP above: [15:12] https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/upstart/environ-remove-tests/+merge/192506 [15:12] - Raised a couple of boot-related blueprints for vUDS: [15:12] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-upstart-roadmap [15:12] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-boot-ui [15:12] * Other [15:12] - Wrote sosreport plugins for upstart and procenv (now merged - thanks [15:13] stokachu!) [15:13] ʄ [15:13] * release week was fun, saucy is out [15:13] * committed a few post-release bugfixes to ubiquity et.al. [15:13] * boost transition in-progress only a few things left to fix, and [15:13] waiting for powerpc to catch up. [15:13] * Working on emulator: [15:13] - build-your-own instructions are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator [15:13] - packaging it into the archive atm, fighting it's build-machinery [15:13] to actually build everything from scratch and not use prebuilts [15:13] - fixup upstart socket bridge to not clober up PATH, it's built in [15:14] non-virt ppa will try adbd on ubuntu host bring up in the emulated [15:14] images today. [15:14] * ps tore my weak ligaments playing volleyball, so on crutches in bed [15:14] on painkillers at the moment. [15:14] * TODO: [15:14] - package/upload emulator [15:14] - get adbd working [15:14] - upstart code reviews [15:14] ow [15:14] - ubiquity code reviews (we have a massive merge proposal of [15:14] Autopilot driven installations) [15:14] .. [15:14] too much fun [15:14] xnox: 404 [15:14] xnox: er, 500 maybe [15:15] finicky wiki [15:15] Helping to open trusty. [15:15] Coordinating ridiculously complex Perl 5.18 transition. Cleaning up loose ends now. [15:15] Writing some slide decks for client sprint. [15:15] Merges, merges, merges. And some build fixes on the side. [15:15] Band-aided bug 1242417. It's still all a mess. [15:15] bug 1242417 in ubuntustudio-default-settings (Ubuntu Trusty) "UEFI install broken when GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR!=Ubuntu (e.g. Kubuntu/UbuntuStudio)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1242417 [15:15] .. [15:18] barry: your turn, I think [15:18] slangasek: ah, no stokachu? [15:18] anyway.. [15:18] system-image: LP: #1221843; LP: #1238071; LP: #1240434; LP: #1243612; general bug triaging. LP: #1217098 - nearly done but having very weird problem with not seeing some signals from u-d-m. [15:18] other: LP: #1242835. psutil merge from debian. dmb meeting. [15:18] Launchpad bug 1221843 in Ubuntu system image "Remove old channels.json format" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1221843 [15:18] Launchpad bug 1238071 in Ubuntu system image "Switch to nose2" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1238071 [15:18] Launchpad bug 1240434 in Ubuntu system image "System update UI shows 'last updated in 1970'" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1240434 [15:18] Launchpad bug 1243612 in system-image (Ubuntu) "system-image-cli does not allow to switch from saucy-proposed to trusty-proposed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1243612 [15:18] Launchpad bug 1217098 in Ubuntu system image "Avoid re-downloading data files" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1217098 [15:18] Launchpad bug 1242835 in Autopilot "Port autopilot script to Python 3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1242835 [15:18] done [15:20] well, I didn't hear anything from him, so I assume he's not here :) [15:20] stokachu: you here? or are you sprinting? [15:21] ok [15:21] * prep for client sprint next week [15:21] * fighting with a dying laptop... apparently time for a refresh whether I wanted it or not [15:21] * working through my Debian merges for trusty [15:21] * upstart MP reviews [15:21] * working with xnox on getting goldfish into a usable state [15:21] * SRU reviews for saucy (udev fix for maguro, bug #1234743) [15:21] bug 1234743 in systemd (Ubuntu Trusty) "omapfb module floods system with udev events on samsung galaxy nexus" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1234743 [15:21] (done) [15:21] questions anywhere? [15:22] slangasek: are you getting Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon? [15:22] =) [15:22] xnox: it's one of the ones in the running right now :) [15:22] xnox: do you want to steer me away from it? :) [15:23] slangasek: i think it's the way forward! take one with touch screen! [15:23] * xnox <3 unity8 [15:24] noted :) [15:24] but this time, I'm going to get my plans cross-checked with the kernel team before I buy... failed to do that first with this one and it's given me no end of grief :P [15:24] [TOPIC] UDS blueprints === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: UDS blueprints [15:24] so UDS is coming up on November 19-21 [15:25] we've been asked to get our blueprints in by the end of this month [15:25] because with it being an online event, it seems that it's harder for people to schedule time when the sessions are moving around on the schedule at the last minute [15:27] so a few people have already started registering their blueprints, which is good [15:27] I'll have some more blueprints that I'll get in touch with people individually about getting on the schedule [15:28] otherwise, please get blueprints registered for anything you think we need to talk about :) [15:28] BTW, this time around there's going to be a Core track instead of a Foundations track [15:28] no more running kernel sessions on the foundations track :-) [15:28] any questions? [15:28] I wonder if there'll actually be any room for our slots :) [15:28] Who's running the core track? Alex? [15:29] (In terms of video operation and such) [15:29] I expect it's the engineering managers running them [15:29] the core track is officially expanded to two "rooms" fwiw [15:30] [TOPIC] AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB [15:30] anything else? [15:31] great work on 13.10, y'all, and on a speedy opening for trusty :) [15:31] I was wondering what the plan with bug 1069133 was, as lots of people upgrading ran into this issue. [15:31] bug 1069133 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Get upgrade error 12.04 - 12.10 "Could not determine upgrade" - xorg from ppa" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1069133 [15:31] 13.10. that's so last week. :) already on trusty (at least on one machine so far) [15:32] what about +1 maintenance this cycle? [15:32] xnox: hmm, that bug is assigned to you, but it was assigned back in March. ;) Do you remember anything about it? [15:34] slangasek: i think i assigned it to myself as I was also affected by it at the time. [15:34] ok [15:34] do you recall if we had any idea at the time what to do to improve this? [15:34] slangasek: as far as I remember the solution was to either (a) ppa-purge X-swat ppa before upgrading & downgrade to release or (b) upgrade with X-swat ppa enabled, upgraded to next one [15:35] right [15:35] slangasek: at the moment, we disable ppa and try upgrade.... which does not work. I wonder if we can do an upgrade calculation with downgrading $core packages to release first. [15:36] or at least say you have packages from these PPAs installed, would you like to get rid of them first, before upgrading? [15:37] that seems like a fair option [15:37] do you want to take a stab at that this next/week with bdmurray? [15:38] slangasek: ok. [15:38] xnox: thanks [15:38] slangasek: at the latest, we can do a quirk for xorg-edgers/ppa, since it's probably so common. [15:38] doko: +1 maintenance> I will bring that up with the engineering managers next week at the client sprint [15:38] * xnox "latest?!" i mean "at least" [15:39] slangasek, I'll visit you on Friday ;) [15:39] doko: heh [15:39] doko: you mean you're not coming to the every-DD-in-the-Bay beering on Wednesday? :) [15:39] so tell me when the party starts ... [15:40] slangasek, no it's the evening for the toolchain working group wine and cheese party =) [15:40] hah [15:40] priorities [15:40] ok - anything else? [15:41] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [15:41] Meeting ended Thu Oct 24 15:41:33 2013 UTC. [15:41] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-10-24-15.06.moin.txt [15:41] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-10-24-15.06.html [15:41] thanks, folks :) [15:41] thanks! [15:41] thanks! [15:41] thanks! === kdub is now known as kdub^lunch === kdub^lunch is now known as kdub