[15:04]  * slangasek waves
[15:05]  * stgraber waves
[15:05] <slangasek> sorry I'm late... fighting with a dying laptop this week :/
[15:05] <doko> hi
[15:05] <jodh> o/
[15:06] <cjwatson> hi
[15:06] <slangasek> #startmeeting
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[15:06] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[15:07] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox stokachu)
[15:07] <slangasek> doko stgraber bdmurray jodh xnox cjwatson stokachu barry slangasek
[15:07] <slangasek> doko: you're first :)
[15:08] <doko> - archive opening
[15:08] <doko> - arm64 fixes
[15:08] <doko> - forwarded arm64 patches to Debian
[15:08] <doko> - scanned arm64 build logs and files bugs (only) in Debian
[15:08] <doko> - Linaro toolchain updates
[15:08] <doko> - MIR's, promotions, fixing ftbfs
[15:08] <doko> (done)
[15:09] <slangasek> doko: anything noteworthy in the Linaro toolchain updates?
[15:10] <doko> no, already had most of these changes
[15:10] <slangasek> ok
[15:10] <stgraber> (Once again didn't have time for a fancy weekly report, was busy fighting with graphviz)
[15:10] <stgraber> Ubuntu 13.10 release.
[15:10] <stgraber> Some help with 14.04 opening.
[15:10] <stgraber> Quite a few merges and help with ongoing transitions.
[15:10] <stgraber> Working on LXC upstream QA infrastructure, release 1.0~alpha2 and usual code reviews.
[15:10] <stgraber> Some debug work on Ubuntu Touch.
[15:10] <stgraber> (DONE)
[15:11] <bdmurray> bug triage (lots of release upgrade reports)
[15:11] <bdmurray> triage and SRU verification of bug 1241420
[15:11] <bdmurray> tested ubiquity bug 1240683
[15:11] <bdmurray> worked on a fix for apport bug 1084979
[15:11] <bdmurray> fixed software-properties bug 1239893
[15:11] <bdmurray> prepared S SRUs for bug 1075537 and bug 1239893
[15:11] <bdmurray> SRU verification of bug 1075537
[15:11] <bdmurray> fixed ubuntu-release-upgrader bug 1241123, bug 1241660
[15:11] <bdmurray> preparing an SRU upload fixing bug 1232363
[15:11] <bdmurray> update metarelease file for saucy-updates and trusty
[15:11] <bdmurray> investigation into possible procps regresssion bug 1157643
[15:11] <bdmurray> updated the phased updater to ignore already installed and configured pkg install failures
[15:11] <bdmurray> updated rls- and isotesting reports for trusty
[15:12] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:12] <jodh> * Boot
[15:12] <jodh>   - Fixed bug 1240686.
[15:12] <jodh>   - Investigating overcoming ptrace limitations.
[15:12] <jodh>   - Fixed minor Session Init-specific issue in 'initctl check-config'.
[15:12] <jodh>   - Identified cause of bug 901038.
[15:12] <jodh>   - Wrote a fix for bug 1235649.
[15:12] <jodh>     https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/upstart/bugs-1235649+1203595/+merge/191852
[15:12] <jodh>     Original solution was generic but suffered from an annoying
[15:12] <jodh>     limitation. After discussions with slangasek, we now have a superior
[15:12] <jodh>     (albeit very d-bus specific) solution that doesn't suffer from the
[15:12] <jodh>     original fixes limitation. Currently working on the new solution.
[15:12] <jodh>   - Raised new MP on salvaged new environ_remove() tests from MP above:
[15:12] <jodh>     https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/upstart/environ-remove-tests/+merge/192506
[15:12] <jodh>   - Raised a couple of boot-related blueprints for vUDS:
[15:12] <jodh>     https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-upstart-roadmap
[15:12] <jodh>     https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/core-1311-boot-ui
[15:12] <jodh> * Other
[15:12] <jodh>   - Wrote sosreport plugins for upstart and procenv (now merged - thanks
[15:13] <jodh>     stokachu!)
[15:13] <jodh> ʄ
[15:13] <xnox> * release week was fun, saucy is out
[15:13] <xnox> * committed a few post-release bugfixes to ubiquity et.al.
[15:13] <xnox> * boost transition in-progress only a few things left to fix, and
[15:13] <xnox>   waiting for powerpc to catch up.
[15:13] <xnox> * Working on emulator:
[15:13] <xnox>   - build-your-own instructions are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator
[15:13] <xnox>   - packaging it into the archive atm, fighting it's build-machinery
[15:13] <xnox>   to actually build everything from scratch and not use prebuilts
[15:13] <xnox>   - fixup upstart socket bridge to not clober up PATH, it's built in
[15:14] <xnox>   non-virt ppa will try adbd on ubuntu host bring up in the emulated
[15:14] <xnox>   images today.
[15:14] <xnox> * ps tore my weak ligaments playing volleyball, so on crutches in bed
[15:14] <xnox>   on painkillers at the moment.
[15:14] <xnox> * TODO:
[15:14] <xnox>   - package/upload emulator
[15:14] <xnox>   - get adbd working
[15:14] <xnox>   - upstart code reviews
[15:14] <cjwatson> ow
[15:14] <xnox>   - ubiquity code reviews (we have a massive merge proposal of
[15:14] <xnox>   Autopilot driven installations)
[15:14] <xnox> ..
[15:14] <cjwatson> too much fun
[15:14] <barry> xnox: 404
[15:14] <barry> xnox: er, 500 maybe
[15:15] <barry> finicky wiki
[15:15] <cjwatson> Helping to open trusty.
[15:15] <cjwatson> Coordinating ridiculously complex Perl 5.18 transition.  Cleaning up loose ends now.
[15:15] <cjwatson> Writing some slide decks for client sprint.
[15:15] <cjwatson> Merges, merges, merges.  And some build fixes on the side.
[15:15] <cjwatson> Band-aided bug 1242417.  It's still all a mess.
[15:15] <cjwatson> ..
[15:18] <slangasek> barry: your turn, I think
[15:18] <barry> slangasek: ah, no stokachu?
[15:18] <barry> anyway..
[15:18] <barry> system-image: LP: #1221843; LP: #1238071; LP: #1240434; LP: #1243612; general bug triaging.  LP: #1217098 - nearly done but having very weird problem with not seeing some signals from u-d-m.
[15:18] <barry> other: LP: #1242835. psutil merge from debian.  dmb meeting.
[15:18] <barry> done
[15:20] <slangasek> well, I didn't hear anything from him, so I assume he's not here :)
[15:20] <slangasek> stokachu: you here?  or are you sprinting?
[15:21] <slangasek> ok
[15:21] <slangasek>  * prep for client sprint next week
[15:21] <slangasek>  * fighting with a dying laptop... apparently time for a refresh whether I wanted it or not
[15:21] <slangasek>  * working through my Debian merges for trusty
[15:21] <slangasek>  * upstart MP reviews
[15:21] <slangasek>  * working with xnox on getting goldfish into a usable state
[15:21] <slangasek>  * SRU reviews for saucy (udev fix for maguro, bug #1234743)
[15:21] <slangasek> (done)
[15:21] <slangasek> questions anywhere?
[15:22] <xnox> slangasek: are you getting Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon?
[15:22] <xnox> =)
[15:22] <slangasek> xnox: it's one of the ones in the running right now :)
[15:22] <slangasek> xnox: do you want to steer me away from it? :)
[15:23] <xnox> slangasek: i think it's the way forward! take one with touch screen!
[15:23]  * xnox <3 unity8
[15:24] <slangasek> noted :)
[15:24] <slangasek> but this time, I'm going to get my plans cross-checked with the kernel team before I buy... failed to do that first with this one and it's given me no end of grief :P
[15:24] <slangasek> [TOPIC] UDS blueprints
[15:24] <slangasek> so UDS is coming up on November 19-21
[15:25] <slangasek> we've been asked to get our blueprints in by the end of this month
[15:25] <slangasek> because with it being an online event, it seems that it's harder for people to schedule time when the sessions are moving around on the schedule at the last minute
[15:27] <slangasek> so a few people have already started registering their blueprints, which is good
[15:27] <slangasek> I'll have some more blueprints that I'll get in touch with people individually about getting on the schedule
[15:28] <slangasek> otherwise, please get blueprints registered for anything you think we need to talk about :)
[15:28] <slangasek> BTW, this time around there's going to be a Core track instead of a Foundations track
[15:28] <slangasek> no more running kernel sessions on the foundations track :-)
[15:28] <slangasek> any questions?
[15:28] <cjwatson> I wonder if there'll actually be any room for our slots :)
[15:28] <cjwatson> Who's running the core track?  Alex?
[15:29] <cjwatson> (In terms of video operation and such)
[15:29] <slangasek> I expect it's the engineering managers running them
[15:29] <slangasek> the core track is officially expanded to two "rooms" fwiw
[15:30] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:30] <slangasek> anything else?
[15:31] <slangasek> great work on 13.10, y'all, and on a speedy opening for trusty :)
[15:31] <bdmurray> I was wondering what the plan with bug 1069133 was, as lots of people upgrading ran into this issue.
[15:31] <barry> 13.10.  that's so last week. :)  already on trusty (at least on one machine so far)
[15:32] <doko> what about +1 maintenance this cycle?
[15:32] <slangasek> xnox: hmm, that bug is assigned to you, but it was assigned back in March. ;)  Do you remember anything about it?
[15:34] <xnox> slangasek: i think i assigned it to myself as I was also affected by it at the time.
[15:34] <slangasek> ok
[15:34] <slangasek> do you recall if we had any idea at the time what to do to improve this?
[15:34] <xnox> slangasek: as far as I remember the solution was to either (a) ppa-purge X-swat ppa before upgrading & downgrade to release or (b) upgrade with X-swat ppa enabled, upgraded to next one
[15:35] <slangasek> right
[15:35] <xnox> slangasek: at the moment, we disable ppa and try upgrade.... which does not work. I wonder if we can do an upgrade calculation with downgrading $core packages to release first.
[15:36] <xnox> or at least say you have packages from these PPAs installed, would you like to get rid of them first, before upgrading?
[15:37] <slangasek> that seems like a fair option
[15:37] <slangasek> do you want to take a stab at that this next/week with bdmurray?
[15:38] <xnox> slangasek: ok.
[15:38] <slangasek> xnox: thanks
[15:38] <xnox> slangasek: at the latest, we can do a quirk for xorg-edgers/ppa, since it's probably so common.
[15:38] <slangasek> doko: +1 maintenance> I will bring that up with the engineering managers next week at the client sprint
[15:38]  * xnox "latest?!" i mean "at least"
[15:39] <doko> slangasek, I'll visit you on Friday ;)
[15:39] <slangasek> doko: heh
[15:39] <slangasek> doko: you mean you're not coming to the every-DD-in-the-Bay beering on Wednesday? :)
[15:39] <doko> so tell me when the party starts ...
[15:40] <doko> slangasek, no it's the evening for the toolchain working group wine and cheese party =)
[15:40] <slangasek> hah
[15:40] <slangasek> priorities
[15:40] <slangasek> ok - anything else?
[15:41] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[15:41] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Oct 24 15:41:33 2013 UTC.
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[15:41] <slangasek> thanks, folks :)
[15:41] <barry> thanks!
[15:41] <stgraber> thanks!
[15:41] <jodh> thanks!