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| SuperMatt | morning all | 08:33 |
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| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy World Development Information Day! :-D | 08:37 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | What's the little audio settings widget called on the top bar? It has a bug. On Saucy if I mute, then come back later and un-mute, the icon itself stays in the muted image. | 08:40 |
| JamesTait | TheOpenSourcerer, I think that'll be indicator-sound | 08:41 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Anyone else confirm what I'm seeing? | 08:42 |
| SuperMatt | that's the one | 08:42 |
| SuperMatt | TheOpenSourcerer: I've seen similar things | 08:42 |
| popey | TheOpenSourcerer: how did you mute? | 08:42 |
| SuperMatt | I've got a weird bug right now. When using spdif out, the volume starts up AT FULL until I turn it down | 08:42 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Click the word "mute" | 08:42 |
| popey | i clicked mute and it still shows the sound icon thing | 08:43 |
| popey | i have two audio devices, wonder if that's why | 08:43 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Hmm, it grey's out and you get the "x" next to the speaker icon. | 08:43 |
| popey | and mute button on KB doesn't change the icon either | 08:43 |
| popey | want me to file a bug? | 08:43 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Repeatedly muting and unmuting seems to get the icon to change correctly but it's not consistent. | 08:44 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Yeah sure popey | 08:44 |
| popey | kk | 08:44 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | ty | 08:44 |
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| Laney | There's a bug where it gets stuck sometimes | 08:48 |
| Laney | killing unity-panel-service and letting it respawn fixes it for me | 08:48 |
| popey | bug 1244114 | 08:48 |
| lubotu3 | bug 1244114 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Sound indicator icon doesn't consistently show muted state when muted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1244114 | 08:49 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | That's the one. | 08:49 |
| JamesTait | I can't reproduce it. | 08:50 |
| dvrr | hiiiiiiiiiiiii | 08:55 |
| dwatkins | Today I learned a new software term: "ship blocker" | 09:14 |
| mungbean_ | how can i see g+ posts i have commented on? | 09:15 |
| SuperMatt | mungbean_: I'm just getting my CV checked out by somemone. Do I need a covering letter? | 09:15 |
| mungbean_ | hmmm SuperMatt i haven't gone through this proces in a while, so its prob different now | 09:16 |
| mungbean_ | i think its via online application form and cv. | 09:16 |
| SuperMatt | cool | 09:17 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 09:31 |
| mungbean_ | guys | 09:35 |
| mungbean_ | is this a piece of fiction? https://plus.google.com/103470457057356043365/posts/9fyh5R9v2Ga | 09:35 |
| mungbean_ | sounds like it | 09:35 |
| mungbean_ | heh, i notice sadfl has commented on it | 09:35 |
| MartijnVdS | hmm.. Dell's website claims you can't order the XPS13 online anymore.. preparing for a refresh? | 09:51 |
| brobostigon | like selling off the nexus4 cheap, in prep for selling the nexus5, :) | 09:52 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: yeah, possibly | 09:52 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: speaking of which.. ;) | 09:52 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: you bought one? | 09:52 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: Is the Nexus 5 out? | 09:53 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: all but announced basiclly, yes. | 09:54 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: I want to order it! | 09:57 |
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| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: and you can afford it? however much it will cost. | 09:58 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: rumours are $350-$399, that's *cheap* for a good smart phone | 10:00 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: I've saved up enough money in the past 2 years of Galaxy Nexus ;) | 10:00 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: :) very true, i thought the original nexus4 price was good aswell. | 10:00 |
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| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:08 |
| DJones | I wonder how long the Nexus branding will continue, we've got N4, N7, N10, N5 is due out, as a guess (on recent naming policies) N6 will have a 6" screen and at that size would more of a phablet than a phone or tablet, where do they go with phone names after that, an N8 with an 8" screen is getting seriously too big for a phone | 10:14 |
| DJones | Will Google Glass be a N0.5 for the 1/2 inch screen :) | 10:15 |
| penguin42 | DJones: What was the name of the guy in Blade runner who made the Nexus series eyes? | 10:18 |
| DJones | There was certainly a Nexus 6 reference in Bladerunner | 10:18 |
| penguin42 | hm 'Chew' apparently | 10:18 |
| popey | Hannibal Chew | 10:18 |
| penguin42 | hmm may not be that great a naming scheme, but for 'what I've seen with your eyes...' | 10:19 |
| * DJones ponders a remake of the classic horror, "The hills have google eyes" | 10:23 | |
| MartijnVdS | googly eyes? | 10:53 |
| directhex | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4735431_700b.jpg | 11:50 |
| SuperMatt | mungbean_: submitted | 11:50 |
| DJones | Heh, just saw this mentioned www.php.net is being blocked by Google Chrome for containing malware | 11:57 |
| MartijnVdS | it is | 11:57 |
| MartijnVdS | also by firefox | 11:57 |
| DJones | http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://php.net/&hl=en | 11:58 |
| DJones | Thats not a good thing to happen | 11:58 |
| MartijnVdS | DJones: probably some leaky PHP code :P | 11:59 |
| SuperMatt | ouchy | 11:59 |
| SuperMatt | can we now start ditching php? | 11:59 |
| MartijnVdS | SuperMatt: maybe | 12:00 |
| MartijnVdS | http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/webmasters/puLmvjtK0m8/8zxOCgZvyPEJ | 12:00 |
| MartijnVdS | it's real | 12:01 |
| mungbean_ | SuperMatt: \o/ | 12:26 |
| mungbean_ | bought a server from ibm and it came in parts o_O | 12:34 |
| mungbean_ | i mean, had to install CPU, ram, raid card, pcie riser, 10gb eth, disks. | 12:35 |
| penguin42 | mungbean_: Yeh you get the base thing and all the addons | 12:35 |
| mungbean_ | something went wrong somewhere, i'm sure customer doesn't install this | 12:35 |
| directhex | mungbean_, "system integration" is a line item, maybe? | 12:35 |
| mungbean_ | thats why you get ripped off by a reseller | 12:35 |
| naya | i'm new here | 12:35 |
| popey | hello naya | 12:35 |
| mungbean_ | dell servers ftw | 12:35 |
| naya | hey | 12:35 |
| naya | i've been out of ubuntu for a while | 12:36 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean_: IBM has an army of servicepeople to do that,right? | 12:36 |
| MartijnVdS | naya: welcome back then :) | 12:36 |
| naya | thanks | 12:36 |
| mungbean_ | i thought some of the items i instaled were not customer installable | 12:36 |
| mungbean_ | how can they validate the new server is working oterhwise | 12:36 |
| naya | can i get help here? | 12:36 |
| mungbean_ | of course naya whats up | 12:36 |
| naya | i mean with configuration stuff? | 12:36 |
| popey | you can drive to mungbean_'s place and setup a server ☻ | 12:37 |
| popey | (I kid) | 12:37 |
| mungbean_ | awww | 12:37 |
| naya | i use Toshiba Satellite L775 but my keyboard does not work when the system boots | 12:38 |
| naya | i'm using the life CD now. | 12:38 |
| penguin42 | naya: When you say the keyboard doesn't work - is that the only thing that doesn't work? | 12:38 |
| penguin42 | naya: i.e does the mouse move? Or an external keyboard work? | 12:39 |
| naya | oh yea right the touchpad doesn't either. | 12:39 |
| naya | i don't have an external mouse or keyboard. | 12:39 |
| penguin42 | naya: OK, so what makes you think it's the keyboard that's failing as opposed to the whole machine being dead? | 12:40 |
| naya | because when i use the onscreen keyboard i'm able to log in and that's it | 12:40 |
| dwatkins | in German, "na ja" means "well, yeah" | 12:40 |
| penguin42 | naya: You mean touchscreen? | 12:41 |
| naya | onscreen keyboard i mean. | 12:41 |
| penguin42 | naya: OK, that's interesting - I had heard of other people who had keyboards that didn't work | 12:41 |
| naya | ok? | 12:42 |
| penguin42 | naya: I'm not sure what to suggest, I would file a bug, which version of Ubuntu are you using - and if you can borrow an external keyboard I'd try it | 12:42 |
| naya | 12.04 | 12:43 |
| naya | LTS | 12:43 |
| naya | penguin24: and i'm gonna get and external keyboard and mouse | 12:43 |
| penguin42 | naya: ok, is this 12.04.3 ? | 12:44 |
| naya | penguin42: yea it is | 12:44 |
| penguin42 | naya: OK, so other things to try - and I don't know if any of these will help; 1) Try the latest 13.10 release just to see if it works 2) Try an old release like 10.04 | 12:45 |
| penguin42 | naya: But also, if you can do a bug report against 'linux' and mention the bug number here I'll try and see if I can spot anything obvious in the logs | 12:45 |
| naya | penguin42: ok thanks | 12:46 |
| naya | penguin42: i'll try the different versions first! | 12:46 |
| penguin42 | naya: If the 12.04 live CD works you can also try installation from say 12.04.1 or switching the hardware enablemenet pack to 12.04.1 or 12.04.2 - that wouldn't need a reinstall | 12:47 |
| mungbean_ | shuttleworth appears to have 2 G+ accounts | 12:47 |
| penguin42 | a work one and a private one? | 12:47 |
| jussi | mungbean_: I have 4.... | 12:47 |
| penguin42 | that's pretty common thing to do | 12:47 |
| mungbean_ | 2k followers on one, and 4k followers on other | 12:47 |
| naya | penguin42: ok! | 12:47 |
| jussi | mungbean_: yeah, one is for the unity and mir lovers, the other for haters - Ill let you decide which is which :P | 12:48 |
| ali1234 | i broke launchpad :/ | 13:05 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: awesome | 13:05 |
| ali1234 | upload a package to a ppa, then delete it, then upload it again | 13:06 |
| ali1234 | now i have pending builds on my ppa which contains now packages, because the packages are all pending for deletion | 13:06 |
| jussi | ali1234: well done! :D | 13:10 |
| * popey dug 3 suits out of the cupboard, and they all "fit" (ish) | 14:57 | |
| popey | handy for bigcalm's wedding tomorrow | 14:57 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: so you can "superman rip" out of 2 suits during the course of the wedding? :) | 15:00 |
| popey | hah | 15:00 |
| popey | https://twitter.com/search?q=Ubuntu%20is%20a%20community%20developed%20operating%20system%20that%20is%20perfect%20for%20laptops%2C%20desktops%20and%20server&src=typd&f=realtime | 15:02 |
| popey | why do those twitter accounts exist | 15:02 |
| penguin42 | is there live coverage on here? | 15:02 |
| popey | many look like generated names | 15:02 |
| popey | but they are tweeting many of the same pieces of text | 15:02 |
| MartijnVdS | Search engine optimizers? | 15:02 |
| popey | I can't fathom what the benefit is, given they aren't tweeting links | 15:03 |
| MartijnVdS | maybe it makes the accounts seem more "legit" to Twitter's spam-detect robot | 15:04 |
| MartijnVdS | so once they start spamming, they don't get blocked as quickly | 15:04 |
| popey | https://twitter.com/windroadkbKhoko/status/393395714249588736 probably explains it | 15:20 |
| ali1234 | why do any twitter accounts exist? | 15:28 |
| mungbean_ | i understand certain use cases | 15:47 |
| mungbean_ | not for me though | 15:47 |
| mungbean_ | bloke who invented twitter sis its to express any info you want anywhere without constraint. except 140 chars | 15:51 |
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| ali1234 | trololol :D | 16:27 |
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| diddledan | ali1234: quit trolling | 17:00 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: maybe we should have the government introduce interwebz trolling tax, of course most of us would be bankrupt by the end of the month :D | 17:11 |
| diddledan | I'd be bankrupt after the first hour | 17:12 |
| naya | poivy on ubuntu 12.04 | 17:47 |
| naya | any ideas? | 17:47 |
| popey | naya: https://www.poivy.com/download has a link to sign up to get the linux version | 17:47 |
| naya | popey: really? i check didn't see that though | 17:48 |
| naya | but i'm gonna get back to u. | 17:48 |
| naya | cheers! | 17:48 |
| naya | popey: i can only use the websignup version not a standalone application! | 17:49 |
| popey | poivy just looks like a sip provider | 17:50 |
| popey | http://askubuntu.com/questions/126408/is-there-any-software-like-voipgain-megavoip-poivy | 17:51 |
| penguin42 | anyone tried Mozilla's togetherJS stuff? | 17:56 |
| penguin42 | e.g. https://togetherjs.com/examples/drawing/ | 17:57 |
| ali1234 | anyone got an awk oneliner that turns scp syntax into ssh syntax? | 17:58 |
| penguin42 | not sure it's that trivial, I know of at least differences in -P to -p and scp is fussier over the placement | 18:01 |
| penguin42 | but not sure of other differences | 18:01 |
| ali1234 | well basically i just need to turn 'user@host:/path/to/file' into 'user@host -c "cat /path/to/file"' | 18:01 |
| ali1234 | this can't be all that hard... it might not be perfect but it's good enough | 18:02 |
| ali1234 | maybe i can do it with sedactually | 18:02 |
| ali1234 | just replace first : | 18:02 |
| ali1234 | and stick a " on the end | 18:02 |
| ali1234 | yeah that should work | 18:02 |
| ali1234 | can i untar to a series of pipes? | 18:19 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: *to* a pipe? unlikely. | 18:20 |
| MartijnVdS | you can untar *from* one, or tar *to* one, no problem | 18:20 |
| ali1234 | eg for each file in a tar file, pipe it to md5sum > $filename.md5 | 18:20 |
| MartijnVdS | --to-command=COMMAND | 18:20 |
| MartijnVdS | pipe extracted files to another program | 18:20 |
| MartijnVdS | ^ from "man tar" | 18:20 |
| ali1234 | awesome | 18:20 |
| MartijnVdS | I don't know if that pipes it as one big blob though | 18:21 |
| MartijnVdS | or as separate files | 18:21 |
| ali1234 | yeha i don't want it to | 18:21 |
| ali1234 | http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_node/Writing-to-an-External-Program.html#SEC84 | 18:22 |
| MartijnVdS | shiny | 18:23 |
| ali1234 | exactly what i need :) | 18:23 |
| MartijnVdS | Wow, another batch of security updates | 18:26 |
| MartijnVdS | was there some kind of backlog? | 18:26 |
| davmor2 | http://www.kulfoto.com/funny-pictures/52288/librarian-humor-na-na-na-batman I'll just leave that here | 18:28 |
| MartijnVdS | davmor2: ... | 18:29 |
| davmor2 | MartijnVdS: put a smile on my face so thought I'd share it :) | 18:33 |
| MartijnVdS | davmor2: I've sent it on to a librarian I know :) | 18:33 |
| davmor2 | haha | 18:33 |
| MartijnVdS | http://open.spotify.com/album/1aSU7tVnGuKquY8yKCw1jm | 18:35 |
| ali1234 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6296712/ | 19:12 |
| ali1234 | for when you have to copy a directory twice using absolutely the minimum amount of bandwidth possible | 19:13 |
| penguin42 | ali1234: pv ? | 19:15 |
| ali1234 | pipe viewer, shows throughput on the pipe | 19:15 |
| ali1234 | this is my final solution instead of using rsync | 19:16 |
| penguin42 | what was wrong with rsync? | 19:16 |
| ali1234 | well, the double file thing | 19:16 |
| penguin42 | double file? | 19:16 |
| ali1234 | this makes two copies of every file and also writes checksums, while reading each file strictly only once, and writing it strictly only twice | 19:17 |
| ali1234 | doing the same with rsync would mean multiple reads of each file | 19:17 |
| ali1234 | i don't have time fo that | 19:17 |
| penguin42 | why multiple reads? | 19:17 |
| ali1234 | rsync it to make copy 1 | 19:18 |
| ali1234 | that's 1 read/1write | 19:18 |
| ali1234 | then rsync it again to make copy 2, that's another 1 read and 1 write | 19:18 |
| ali1234 | then md5sum it all, that's another read | 19:18 |
| penguin42 | oh you're wanting double copies | 19:18 |
| ali1234 | = 3 reads, 2 writes | 19:18 |
| ali1234 | this does the whole thing in one step, thus it's optimal i think | 19:19 |
| ali1234 | not sure how much overhead tar and ssh will create, probably not much though | 19:19 |
| ali1234 | turns out my laptop doesn't actually have gigabit ethernet, so that's will be the limiting factor | 19:22 |
| ali1234 | i need to test this with spaces in the file names | 19:25 |
| * popey hopes bigcalm gets a good nights sleep | 21:28 | |
| penguin42 | popey: You've not tied him naked to a lamppost with cat5? | 22:07 |
| popey | heh | 22:10 |
| directhex | cat5 is poor rope | 22:11 |
| directhex | doesn't knot well | 22:11 |
| AlanBell | I am sure bigcalm will be tucked up in bed nice and early | 22:15 |
| AlanBell | Hayley might not be though :) | 22:15 |
| AlanBell | Anyone know lots about VAT? DJones?http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2013/10/crowdfunding-and-vat/ | 22:20 |
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| bigcalm | I've just got back from the venue. Some joint decorating while we're still aloud to see each other | 23:37 |
| bigcalm | I'm now on my own and unlikely to sleep | 23:37 |
| penguin42 | well, you shouldn't be sleeping tomorrow.... | 23:43 |
| bigcalm | Today? | 23:43 |
| bigcalm | T - 14 hours 46 mins | 23:43 |
| penguin42 | ah very civilised, no rush | 23:45 |
| bigcalm | It's 00:45, not a civilised hour I'd say | 23:45 |
| penguin42 | but 2-3pm will be | 23:46 |
| bigcalm | 3.30pm | 23:47 |
| bigcalm | I will be back at the venue at 10am though to continue setting up | 23:47 |
| bigcalm | Maybe watching TV in bed will help | 23:52 |
| bigcalm | Night peeps :) | 23:52 |
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