=== jussi is now known as android === android is now known as juss === juss is now known as jussi === iahmad is now known as iahmad|afk === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [08:33] morning all [08:37] Good morning all; happy World Development Information Day! :-D [08:40] What's the little audio settings widget called on the top bar? It has a bug. On Saucy if I mute, then come back later and un-mute, the icon itself stays in the muted image. [08:41] TheOpenSourcerer, I think that'll be indicator-sound [08:42] Anyone else confirm what I'm seeing? [08:42] that's the one [08:42] TheOpenSourcerer: I've seen similar things [08:42] TheOpenSourcerer: how did you mute? [08:42] I've got a weird bug right now. When using spdif out, the volume starts up AT FULL until I turn it down [08:42] Click the word "mute" [08:43] i clicked mute and it still shows the sound icon thing [08:43] i have two audio devices, wonder if that's why [08:43] Hmm, it grey's out and you get the "x" next to the speaker icon. [08:43] and mute button on KB doesn't change the icon either [08:43] want me to file a bug? [08:44] Repeatedly muting and unmuting seems to get the icon to change correctly but it's not consistent. [08:44] Yeah sure popey [08:44] kk [08:44] ty === iahmad|afk is now known as iahmad [08:48] There's a bug where it gets stuck sometimes [08:48] killing unity-panel-service and letting it respawn fixes it for me [08:48] bug 1244114 [08:49] bug 1244114 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Sound indicator icon doesn't consistently show muted state when muted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1244114 [08:49] That's the one. [08:50] I can't reproduce it. [08:55] hiiiiiiiiiiiii [09:14] Today I learned a new software term: "ship blocker" [09:15] how can i see g+ posts i have commented on? [09:15] mungbean_: I'm just getting my CV checked out by somemone. Do I need a covering letter? [09:16] hmmm SuperMatt i haven't gone through this proces in a while, so its prob different now [09:16] i think its via online application form and cv. [09:17] cool [09:31] good morning everyone, [09:35] guys [09:35] is this a piece of fiction? https://plus.google.com/103470457057356043365/posts/9fyh5R9v2Ga [09:35] sounds like it [09:35] heh, i notice sadfl has commented on it [09:51] hmm.. Dell's website claims you can't order the XPS13 online anymore.. preparing for a refresh? [09:52] like selling off the nexus4 cheap, in prep for selling the nexus5, :) [09:52] brobostigon: yeah, possibly [09:52] brobostigon: speaking of which.. ;) [09:52] MartijnVdS: you bought one? [09:53] brobostigon: Is the Nexus 5 out? [09:54] MartijnVdS: all but announced basiclly, yes. [09:57] brobostigon: I want to order it! === iahmad is now known as iahmad|afk [09:58] MartijnVdS: and you can afford it? however much it will cost. [10:00] brobostigon: rumours are $350-$399, that's *cheap* for a good smart phone [10:00] brobostigon: I've saved up enough money in the past 2 years of Galaxy Nexus ;) [10:00] MartijnVdS: :) very true, i thought the original nexus4 price was good aswell. === emma is now known as em [10:08] Morning all [10:14] I wonder how long the Nexus branding will continue, we've got N4, N7, N10, N5 is due out, as a guess (on recent naming policies) N6 will have a 6" screen and at that size would more of a phablet than a phone or tablet, where do they go with phone names after that, an N8 with an 8" screen is getting seriously too big for a phone [10:15] Will Google Glass be a N0.5 for the 1/2 inch screen :) [10:18] DJones: What was the name of the guy in Blade runner who made the Nexus series eyes? [10:18] There was certainly a Nexus 6 reference in Bladerunner [10:18] hm 'Chew' apparently [10:18] Hannibal Chew [10:19] hmm may not be that great a naming scheme, but for 'what I've seen with your eyes...' [10:23] * DJones ponders a remake of the classic horror, "The hills have google eyes" [10:53] googly eyes? [11:50] http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4735431_700b.jpg [11:50] mungbean_: submitted [11:57] Heh, just saw this mentioned www.php.net is being blocked by Google Chrome for containing malware [11:57] it is [11:57] also by firefox [11:58] http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://php.net/&hl=en [11:58] Thats not a good thing to happen [11:59] DJones: probably some leaky PHP code :P [11:59] ouchy [11:59] can we now start ditching php? [12:00] SuperMatt: maybe [12:00] http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/webmasters/puLmvjtK0m8/8zxOCgZvyPEJ [12:01] it's real [12:26] SuperMatt: \o/ [12:34] bought a server from ibm and it came in parts o_O [12:35] i mean, had to install CPU, ram, raid card, pcie riser, 10gb eth, disks. [12:35] mungbean_: Yeh you get the base thing and all the addons [12:35] something went wrong somewhere, i'm sure customer doesn't install this [12:35] mungbean_, "system integration" is a line item, maybe? [12:35] thats why you get ripped off by a reseller [12:35] i'm new here [12:35] hello naya [12:35] dell servers ftw [12:35] hey [12:36] i've been out of ubuntu for a while [12:36] mungbean_: IBM has an army of servicepeople to do that,right? [12:36] naya: welcome back then :) [12:36] thanks [12:36] i thought some of the items i instaled were not customer installable [12:36] how can they validate the new server is working oterhwise [12:36] can i get help here? [12:36] of course naya whats up [12:36] i mean with configuration stuff? [12:37] you can drive to mungbean_'s place and setup a server ☻ [12:37] (I kid) [12:37] awww [12:38] i use Toshiba Satellite L775 but my keyboard does not work when the system boots [12:38] i'm using the life CD now. [12:38] naya: When you say the keyboard doesn't work - is that the only thing that doesn't work? [12:39] naya: i.e does the mouse move? Or an external keyboard work? [12:39] oh yea right the touchpad doesn't either. [12:39] i don't have an external mouse or keyboard. [12:40] naya: OK, so what makes you think it's the keyboard that's failing as opposed to the whole machine being dead? [12:40] because when i use the onscreen keyboard i'm able to log in and that's it [12:40] in German, "na ja" means "well, yeah" [12:41] naya: You mean touchscreen? [12:41] onscreen keyboard i mean. [12:41] naya: OK, that's interesting - I had heard of other people who had keyboards that didn't work [12:42] ok? [12:42] naya: I'm not sure what to suggest, I would file a bug, which version of Ubuntu are you using - and if you can borrow an external keyboard I'd try it [12:43] 12.04 [12:43] LTS [12:43] penguin24: and i'm gonna get and external keyboard and mouse [12:44] naya: ok, is this 12.04.3 ? [12:44] penguin42: yea it is [12:45] naya: OK, so other things to try - and I don't know if any of these will help; 1) Try the latest 13.10 release just to see if it works 2) Try an old release like 10.04 [12:45] naya: But also, if you can do a bug report against 'linux' and mention the bug number here I'll try and see if I can spot anything obvious in the logs [12:46] penguin42: ok thanks [12:46] penguin42: i'll try the different versions first! [12:47] naya: If the 12.04 live CD works you can also try installation from say 12.04.1 or switching the hardware enablemenet pack to 12.04.1 or 12.04.2 - that wouldn't need a reinstall [12:47] shuttleworth appears to have 2 G+ accounts [12:47] a work one and a private one? [12:47] mungbean_: I have 4.... [12:47] that's pretty common thing to do [12:47] 2k followers on one, and 4k followers on other [12:47] penguin42: ok! [12:48] mungbean_: yeah, one is for the unity and mir lovers, the other for haters - Ill let you decide which is which :P [13:05] i broke launchpad :/ [13:05] ali1234: awesome [13:06] upload a package to a ppa, then delete it, then upload it again [13:06] now i have pending builds on my ppa which contains now packages, because the packages are all pending for deletion [13:10] ali1234: well done! :D [14:57] * popey dug 3 suits out of the cupboard, and they all "fit" (ish) [14:57] handy for bigcalm's wedding tomorrow [15:00] popey: so you can "superman rip" out of 2 suits during the course of the wedding? :) [15:00] hah [15:02] https://twitter.com/search?q=Ubuntu%20is%20a%20community%20developed%20operating%20system%20that%20is%20perfect%20for%20laptops%2C%20desktops%20and%20server&src=typd&f=realtime [15:02] why do those twitter accounts exist [15:02] is there live coverage on here? [15:02] many look like generated names [15:02] but they are tweeting many of the same pieces of text [15:02] Search engine optimizers? [15:03] I can't fathom what the benefit is, given they aren't tweeting links [15:04] maybe it makes the accounts seem more "legit" to Twitter's spam-detect robot [15:04] so once they start spamming, they don't get blocked as quickly [15:20] https://twitter.com/windroadkbKhoko/status/393395714249588736 probably explains it [15:28] why do any twitter accounts exist? [15:47] i understand certain use cases [15:47] not for me though [15:51] bloke who invented twitter sis its to express any info you want anywhere without constraint. except 140 chars === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [16:27] trololol :D === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:00] ali1234: quit trolling [17:11] diddledan: maybe we should have the government introduce interwebz trolling tax, of course most of us would be bankrupt by the end of the month :D [17:12] I'd be bankrupt after the first hour [17:47] poivy on ubuntu 12.04 [17:47] any ideas? [17:47] naya: https://www.poivy.com/download has a link to sign up to get the linux version [17:48] popey: really? i check didn't see that though [17:48] but i'm gonna get back to u. [17:48] cheers! [17:49] popey: i can only use the websignup version not a standalone application! [17:50] poivy just looks like a sip provider [17:51] http://askubuntu.com/questions/126408/is-there-any-software-like-voipgain-megavoip-poivy [17:56] anyone tried Mozilla's togetherJS stuff? [17:57] e.g. https://togetherjs.com/examples/drawing/ [17:58] anyone got an awk oneliner that turns scp syntax into ssh syntax? [18:01] not sure it's that trivial, I know of at least differences in -P to -p and scp is fussier over the placement [18:01] but not sure of other differences [18:01] well basically i just need to turn 'user@host:/path/to/file' into 'user@host -c "cat /path/to/file"' [18:02] this can't be all that hard... it might not be perfect but it's good enough [18:02] maybe i can do it with sedactually [18:02] just replace first : [18:02] and stick a " on the end [18:02] yeah that should work [18:19] can i untar to a series of pipes? [18:20] ali1234: *to* a pipe? unlikely. [18:20] you can untar *from* one, or tar *to* one, no problem [18:20] eg for each file in a tar file, pipe it to md5sum > $filename.md5 [18:20] --to-command=COMMAND [18:20] pipe extracted files to another program [18:20] ^ from "man tar" [18:20] awesome [18:21] I don't know if that pipes it as one big blob though [18:21] or as separate files [18:21] yeha i don't want it to [18:22] http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_node/Writing-to-an-External-Program.html#SEC84 [18:23] shiny [18:23] exactly what i need :) [18:26] Wow, another batch of security updates [18:26] was there some kind of backlog? [18:28] http://www.kulfoto.com/funny-pictures/52288/librarian-humor-na-na-na-batman I'll just leave that here [18:29] davmor2: ... [18:33] MartijnVdS: put a smile on my face so thought I'd share it :) [18:33] davmor2: I've sent it on to a librarian I know :) [18:33] haha [18:35] http://open.spotify.com/album/1aSU7tVnGuKquY8yKCw1jm [19:12] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6296712/ [19:13] for when you have to copy a directory twice using absolutely the minimum amount of bandwidth possible [19:15] ali1234: pv ? [19:15] pipe viewer, shows throughput on the pipe [19:16] this is my final solution instead of using rsync [19:16] what was wrong with rsync? [19:16] well, the double file thing [19:16] double file? [19:17] this makes two copies of every file and also writes checksums, while reading each file strictly only once, and writing it strictly only twice [19:17] doing the same with rsync would mean multiple reads of each file [19:17] i don't have time fo that [19:17] why multiple reads? [19:18] rsync it to make copy 1 [19:18] that's 1 read/1write [19:18] then rsync it again to make copy 2, that's another 1 read and 1 write [19:18] then md5sum it all, that's another read [19:18] oh you're wanting double copies [19:18] = 3 reads, 2 writes [19:19] this does the whole thing in one step, thus it's optimal i think [19:19] not sure how much overhead tar and ssh will create, probably not much though [19:22] turns out my laptop doesn't actually have gigabit ethernet, so that's will be the limiting factor [19:25] i need to test this with spaces in the file names [21:28] * popey hopes bigcalm gets a good nights sleep [22:07] popey: You've not tied him naked to a lamppost with cat5? [22:10] heh [22:11] cat5 is poor rope [22:11] doesn't knot well [22:15] I am sure bigcalm will be tucked up in bed nice and early [22:15] Hayley might not be though :) [22:20] Anyone know lots about VAT? DJones?http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2013/10/crowdfunding-and-vat/ === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [23:37] I've just got back from the venue. Some joint decorating while we're still aloud to see each other [23:37] I'm now on my own and unlikely to sleep [23:43] well, you shouldn't be sleeping tomorrow.... [23:43] Today? [23:43] T - 14 hours 46 mins [23:45] ah very civilised, no rush [23:45] It's 00:45, not a civilised hour I'd say [23:46] but 2-3pm will be [23:47] 3.30pm [23:47] I will be back at the venue at 10am though to continue setting up [23:52] Maybe watching TV in bed will help [23:52] Night peeps :)