[00:02] <cmaloney> Evening
[00:02] <cmaloney> I think the Starbucks thing may need to be rethought
[00:02] <cmaloney> Managed to luck into a table here
[00:37] <greg-g> http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2013/10/22/open-source-proliferation-problem/
[01:07] <trevlar> http://fitztrev.github.io/ubuntu-irc-logs/
[01:07] <waf> trevlar++
[01:29] <widox> waf: hola
[01:30] <waf> widox: test
[06:04] <greg-g> rick_h_: does your team use any specific dev methodology? You have in-person sprints, but do ya'll also do the 1-2 week sprint idea? Still use LP for managing those sprints?
[14:14] <rick_h_> greg-g: so I think it's just kanban + agile? We do have 1-2 week "features" we break into single branch-ish kanban cards we move across the board from study, coding, review, landing/qa, done
[14:14] <rick_h_> greg-g: but we don't really call them sprints
[14:34] <jrwren> scrumban!
[14:35] <brousch> jrwren: Is there a charity I can give to to help you get over that ailment?
[15:06] <jrwren> this does not work for me. is it supposed to in 12.04.2 ? http://techxana.blogspot.com/2012/09/ubuntu-12-dhclient-logging-options.html
[15:52] <greg-g> jrwren: is that an endorsement?
[15:54] <greg-g> "In the case of decentralized teams, stage-illustration software such as Assembla, ScrumWorks, Rational Team Concert or JIRA in combination with Jira Agile." oh no! my only floss option is JIRA?!
[15:54] <greg-g> from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_%28software_development%29#Scrum-ban
[15:54] <cmaloney> Did someone wave the magic scrum wand?
[15:55] <cmaloney> Seems we're also "doing Scrum"
[15:55] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea, we don't use open source kanban/etc.
[15:55] <rick_h_> leankit.com
[15:56] <cmaloney> (and Jira is only this side of OSS)
[15:56] <greg-g> cmaloney: well, being a little more reactive to reality, for us. Also, our team needs something to help us stay on task.
[15:56] <greg-g> we're your typical fire-fighting team (the "Platform/Core" team) so we're the ones called in when shit breaks and people don't know how to fix it immediately
[15:57] <greg-g> but, we also have things we need to build, so, yeah
[15:58] <jrwren> agile with a capital A is bullshit.
[15:58] <jrwren> the only agile I care about are the 4 values defined in the agile manifesto.
[15:58] <jrwren> as for scrum or scrumban, yes, they are fine methodologies
[15:58] <jrwren> implementing them can be challenging
[16:00] <cmaloney> I think Agile got the same problems as some of the other methodologies, namely this idea of purity in implementation
[16:01] <cmaloney> That and XP
[16:01] <cmaloney> "Thou shalt have a 10 person team for a two person project"
[16:02] <cmaloney> "And thou shalt not call it 'Agile' unless thou has delinated these roles to ten separate people"
[16:22] <greg-g> jrwren: that's my perspective as well
[16:23] <greg-g> cmaloney: yeah, we ain't pure :)
[16:38] <jrwren> cmaloney: that is why...
[16:38] <jrwren> agile with a capital A is bullshit.
[19:34] <cmaloney> That moment you find someone on G+, think it would be interesting to follow them, and then get hit with a stream of political posts
[19:35] <greg-g> that moment when you think about doing something on G+, open it up, and run away screaming
[19:35] <cmaloney> Hey now. :)
[19:35] <greg-g> you feel icky when someone says scrum, I feel icky when someone says G+ ;)
[19:36] <cmaloney> I didn't say I felt icky about scrum
[19:36] <greg-g> hehe
[19:36] <cmaloney> just that i've heard it a lot lately
[19:36] <cmaloney> And nothing wrong with G+. It's actually a nice community
[19:36] <brousch> greg-g: Where do you converse with fellow nerds?
[19:36] <cmaloney> that said, i follow a shit-ton of gamers
[19:36] <greg-g> brousch: right here, on IRC
[19:37] <brousch> But there's no pictures!
[19:37] <cmaloney> Used to be identi.ca, but people fell off that wagon.
[19:37] <greg-g> ASCII ART!
[19:37] <greg-g> also, yeah, identi.ca, but too quiet
[19:37] <greg-g> apparently quittr.se (statusnet based) is pretty popular
[19:38] <greg-g> but, I think full of mega chatters, the likes of whats his name from that one outlaw podcast
[19:38] <cmaloney> fabsh
[19:38] <greg-g> yeah, him
[19:39] <cmaloney> We are a federation of microbloggers who care about ethics and solidarity and want to quit the centralised capitalistic services. We've been around since 2010 and will always be non-profit.
[19:39] <cmaloney> And... no.
[19:40] <cmaloney> (from http://quitter.se)
[19:40] <greg-g> what's wrong with being non-profit?
[19:40] <cmaloney> heh
[19:46] <jrwren> scrum is just a to short of scrotum
[19:47]  * _stink_ steals that
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