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infinitysarnold: Waiting for this test build to finish, but looks like it's a 1-line patch for you, and you can just include that in your security release.00:01
sarnoldinfinity: yay \o/ :) thanks00:03
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infinitysarnold: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6298101/ <-- Test-built, seems to DTRT.00:22
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sarnoldinfinity: thanks!00:24
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ScottKxnox: Feel free to ask me if I'm willing to look at a bug, but assignment rights require a contract.02:22
ScottKstgraber: Would you please have a look at the upstartification proposed in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quassel/+bug/1244036 ?02:22
ubottuUbuntu bug 1244036 in quassel (Ubuntu) "Quasselcore should use an Upstart script instead of a sysv initscript" [Undecided,New]02:22
stgraberScottK: looks to me like he wants "start on filesystem and static-network-up" instead, but the start on condition he's using isn' wrong either. Just because I'm picky, the respawn stanza is usually put before the script section so it's easier to spot.02:27
stgraberbesides that, it should all work fine assuming quasselcore doesn't fork/daemonize02:28
stgraberoh and hardcoding /usr/bin is usually not considered a good thing02:28
ScottKSo just excec quasselcore?02:29
ScottKexec even02:29
ScottKstgraber: ^^^02:29
stgraberyep02:30
ScottKThanks.02:30
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Mirvslangasek: yes phablet-test-run works through adb03:55
pittirbasak: thanks (this early> rolling release!! *cough*)04:04
pittiGood morning04:04
Mirvrobru: xnox: I didn't really push on getting the qtmultimedia in. as I was asked I provided some information and prepared the branch from my side, assuming someone working on the bug is doing the pushes. otherwise I'd have pinged a friendly core-dev about the branch or made the lp:ubuntu/* MP. doing that MP now as robru requested.04:05
robruMirv, yes, sorry. I don't have upload rights so I can't sponsor it or anything. but I really need that in ASAP please.04:05
robrufor trusty04:06
Mirvyep the MP seems the best way to go, and I can ping also didrocks who can sponsor from the packaging branch directly04:06
robruok, great, thanks Mirv04:06
pittirbasak: so, we are producing cloud images, just no /current symlink04:06
Mirvnp04:06
pittirbasak: but "prepare-testbed -b 20131024.3 amd64" FTW :)04:07
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mati75hello06:11
mati75I have question about upload patched packages to ubuntu repository06:11
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pittimati75: (just ask your question)07:20
ricotzdoko__, hi, graphviz 2.34.0-0ubuntu4 missed to handle the soname bump "libgvc5: /usr/lib/libgvc.so.6"07:20
ricotzpitti, hi07:21
pittihey ricotz07:21
ricotzi am curious aren't there checks for the proposed pocket to catch something like that ^07:22
slangaseknormally, it's expected that such changes cause the package to fail to build entirely.07:23
ricotzif there is no symbols file it wont fail07:24
slangaseknot true; if the library package is done sanely, it will fail to build when it tries to install files that aren't there07:24
ricotzslangasek, right, but normally the soname isnt mentioned in the install file afaik07:25
ricotzbut yeah, that of course would catch it07:25
slangasekif you have neither a symbols file nor a version-checking glob in your install rule, your library packaging is not sane07:26
ricotzalright ;)07:26
mati75my debian package was copied to ubuntu trusty, but to fine working in ubuntu needs patch07:31
mati75now I add to ppa: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/154951693/spacefm_0.9.0-1ubuntu1_source.changes07:33
pittimati75: ah, thanks! happy to sponsor, do you have the link to the PPA?07:34
mati75https://launchpad.net/~mati75/+archive/spacefm/+packages07:36
pittimati75: oh, what doesn't work with the global menu? (woudl be nice to report this as a bug to the unity guys so that it can be fixed)07:37
mati75pitti: yes, here is upsteam bug report: https://github.com/IgnorantGuru/spacefm/issues/4907:40
mati75pitti: ok, I try report to unity guys07:40
pittimati75: ah; probably not an upstream bug, but one in the unity menu; I'll add that link to the changelog, ok?07:41
pittimati75: uploaded with that07:43
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mati75pitti: ok08:24
borg_Hi, i still have this problem with python-qwt5-qt4: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyqwt5/+bug/124310208:59
ubottuUbuntu bug 1243102 in pyqwt5 (Ubuntu Trusty) "python-qwt5-qt4 segfaults immediately in saucy" [Undecided,New]08:59
borg_it was assigned to Scott Kittermann but he unasigned it09:00
borg_how do i get this package rebuild and reuploaded?09:00
borg_the source of the package is ok, but the build package is broken (no idea what happend during the build process)09:00
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dokoapw, aarch64 ping09:29
dokochrisccoulson, hi, could you have a look at a libticaples merge this cycle?09:40
dokoricotz, feel free to fix. the graphviz packaging is "interesting" ....09:57
xnox=)10:06
pittiI guess it's too late to hold back graphviz in -proposed for that..10:18
cjwatsongiven it's migrated, yes10:19
brainwashcan a package maintainer or dev take a look at bug 1183580 please? the actual package maintainer appears to be inactive or just ignores this issue10:34
ubottubug 1183580 in librcc (Ubuntu) "librcc segfaults on latest saucy" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118358010:34
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darkxstcjwatson, I hear from upstream, that jenkins in running the glib installed tests, can we get the same for gjs?14:16
cjwatsondarkxst: that's up to the gjs packaging I expect14:17
LaneyIt does that because I packaged the tests and made an autopkgtest for them14:17
Laneyso do that14:17
darkxstLaney, ok will do, but how do I make an autopkgtest?14:18
cjwatsonhttp://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=autopkgtest/autopkgtest.git;a=blob_plain;f=doc/README.package-tests;hb=HEAD14:18
LaneyYou can probably copy debian/tests/* from glib2.014:19
cjwatson(linked from http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep8/)14:19
darkxstLaney, cjwatson ok cool, I will work it out ;)14:22
Laneydarkxst: I think there's a bug that gnome-desktop-testing-runner always returns exit code 0 though14:26
Laneyso the tests actually always pass *cough*14:27
Laneyfor example https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Saucy/view/AutoPkgTest/job/saucy-adt-glib-networking/9/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console should have failed14:27
darkxstLaney, then thats not a test !14:27
Laneyyeah the runner needs fixing14:27
darkxstLaney, ok, and I need sleep! big weekend of MTB'ing ahead14:30
Laneydarkxst: maybe fixed in trunk actually, /me checks that14:34
Laneyhave fun mtbing14:34
Laneyno, not fixed14:35
darkxstwill do! night!14:38
seb128ev, is errors.ubuntu.com having issues? it doesn't seem to be replying, not sure if that's my connection14:39
seb128well it's replying but failing to load reports14:39
pittiseb128: timing out here, too, I don't even see the front page15:13
seb128pitti, I've pinged #is about it, lamont said he's going to have a look15:14
seb128pitti, hey, wie gehts? almost w.e for you?15:14
lamontbelieved to be a known issue15:14
pittiseb128: by and large, yes; just waiting for another ofono-phonesim fix to get published, and then re-re-re-running my messaging-app tests and hoping for the best :)15:15
seb128pitti, ;-)15:15
pittislangasek: WDYT about a blueprint how to automatically do TRIMming on SSDs? high time for 14.04 LTS IMHO, and also quite embarrassing to have to explain that to every Ubuntu user around me..15:19
pittislangasek: (there are two well-known approaches, just needs some discussion what is the better default)15:19
stgraberpitti: are you doing more than adding discard to any SSD+fs that supports it and doing an ATA wipe every once in a while?15:24
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slangasekpitti: sounds like a good topic15:29
pittistgraber: I create a cronjob to call fstrim every week15:29
pittistgraber: that can be generalized to iterate over mount points and checking if it's an SSD with TRIM capabilities, etc15:29
pittistgraber: I think that's better than "discard", but that's a subject for discussion I think15:30
pittistgraber: either way, whether discard or cron, we need to do it15:30
pittidrives get excruciatingly slow (I got 1.5 MB/s!) after half a year or so without out15:30
pittis/out/it/15:30
stgraberpitti: agreed. All my systems run on SSD here and have all been running with discard, haven't seen any obvious side effects and I have some with pretty busy SSDs running for 2-3 years now. But yeah, a vUDS discussion would be a very good thing as what we do by default is clearly wrong ;)15:31
pittistgraber, slangasek: ack, I'll register a BP Monday15:34
stgraberpitti: thanks, can you subscribe me to it?15:35
pittistgraber: sure15:35
stgraberawesome, thanks15:35
pittiit's primarily a "pick your pain" decision anyway, slow delete vs. a rather unpredictable I/O load every week (or whatever frequency we decide)15:36
cjohnstonlool: did you get my email about the milestones for the trusty cycle?15:39
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lamontseb128, pitti: shoujld be back15:56
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kenvandine@pilot in18:05
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roadmrstgraber: hello, I see the checkbox-0.14.10 package made it into proposed, did the diff turn out to be ok after all?18:33
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kenvandine@pilot out20:09
=== udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 13.10 released! | Archive: open | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> saucy | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots:
Noskcajrbasak, PING20:53
Noskcajrbasak, Do you plan to merge pysvn any time soon?20:55
brainwashpitti: systemd-shim.c, line 118: the dbus signal does not get emitted occasionally after resuming from suspend. what could be the reason?20:59
brainwashpitti: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/systemd-shim/saucy/view/head:/src/systemd-shim.c#L11820:59
rbasakNoskcaj: not right now; do you want to take it?21:15
Noskcajrbasak, Sure21:16
rbasakNoskcaj: thanks!21:18
infinityLooks like at least one of the patches can probably be dropped.21:19
bdmurrayslangasek: how does trusty get added to extras.ubuntu.com?  bug 124405021:20
ubottubug 1244050 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "upgrade to trusty fails because of failure to fetch from extras.ubuntu.com" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124405021:20
infinityPossibly both.21:20
infinityNoskcaj / rbasak: Looks like both our patches made it upstream, I'll just sync pysvn.21:24
Noskcajinfinity, ok21:24
rbasakinfinity: thanks!21:25
NoskcajIt's a bit worrying that the actual maintainer of pysvn hasn't done much in the last 2 years21:26
slangasekstgraber: extras.ubuntu.com> ^^ ?21:27
slangasekbdmurray: I guess it's in some way an ARB function, but I'm not sure if the ARB is still a going concern21:27
stgraberslangasek: can't do anything about it, no longer on the TB21:28
slangasekstgraber: so it's a TB-controlled thing?21:28
infinityWhat TB?21:28
LaneyIsn't it a mirrored PPA?21:28
stgraberslangasek: you need someone on the TB or on the ARB to copy a package between an existing series and trusty in the PPA, wait for it to publish, then remove it21:28
stgraberthat way trusty is created on ppa.launchpad.net21:28
stgraberand a bit later, that gets mirrored over to extras.u.c21:29
infinityWhich PPA is this?21:29
slangasekand the ARB doesn't exist anymore either?21:29
slangasekbdmurray: so... I guess you can assign it to the technical board :)21:29
infinityI'm sure we can make this happen without a TB.21:29
infinitystgraber: Which PPA?21:29
stgraberinfinity: https://launchpad.net/~app-review-board/+archive/ppa21:29
Laneythe ARB has members21:30
infinityNothing published there for saucy, either.  Shiny.  Though I assume the copy/delete trick happened.21:30
stgraberyep, I did it back in saucy21:30
stgraberhttp://ppa.launchpad.net/app-review-board/ppa/ubuntu/dists/21:30
stgraberI believe the latest extras.u.c upload was in quantal21:31
infinityCurious that no one's tried to get it to publish for all arches.21:31
infinityAnyhow, if you can't find an ARB person to do it, we can get a duckie to.21:32
bdmurrayokay thanks21:33
stgraberhighvoltage, ajmitch: around?21:33
infinityajmitch: You arou... What he said?21:33
stgraberif we had governance bodies who could make that decision, it'd be nice to get rid of extras.u.c with 14.04 since this clearly isn't used21:37
slangasekstgraber, bdmurray: if extras.u.c should go away for 14.04 anyway, then that means we should really quirk it in u-r-u21:48
CajunTechieHey guys, off-topic I know but how do I get in touch with the folks at developer.ubuntu.com?21:49
stgraberslangasek: it'd have to be discussed with the CC and TB, but since nothing was published in the past two cycles, it'd seem reasonable to consider this a failure and move on21:49
stgraberin which case we'll indeed need some code to get it out of any system that used to have it enabled21:50
sarnoldCajunTechie: this is probably a reasonable starting point: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content21:52
CajunTechieSarnold: Nope. Not a mention of it on that site. Can nobody submit apps through developer.ubuntu.com right now?21:55
sarnoldCajunTechie: let's take a quick step back :) what are you trying to accomplish? :)21:56
CajunTechieSarnold: I'm trying to submit a new application. It worked last night for the original submission. Then I needed to update and it gives me a 400 error22:00
sarnoldCajunTechie: aha! thanks :) try #ubuntu-app-devel  ?22:07
CajunTechieThanks! Didn't know about that one. You're a life-saver Sarnold :-)22:10
sarnoldCajunTechie: happy to help, I hope you can get the problem sorted out quickly! :)22:10
Noskcajmdeslaur, Can you look at https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/libxrandr/libxrandr ? It builds, but the lintian warning about changes to the diff makes me unsure i did this right22:11
mdeslaurNoskcaj: sure, when I get a minute22:14
evbdmurray: thanks for landing the t-series update to the retracer config22:22
bdmurrayev: no problem, I also added T to errors22:24
bdmurrayev: I haven't submitted an RT for the update though22:24
evbdmurray: we're literally working on the stagingstack retracers deployment now, so it won't be too long until we have proper cloudy retracers set up22:27
slangasekchiluk: hi, I've just assigned bug #1242746 to you... it appears there's a regression reported in the procps SRU22:35
ubottubug 1242746 in procps (Ubuntu) "SIGSEGV when file2str reads zero bytes" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124274622:35
mdeslaurNoskcaj: looked good, uploaded, thanks!23:12

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