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Kilos | morning all | 05:14 |
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Squirm | morning | 06:04 |
Kilos | hi Squirm mazal | 06:04 |
Kilos | hi bduk1 | 06:07 |
bduk1 | morning Kilos and everyone | 06:10 |
Kilos | i forgot to tell mazal to try when booting to do a recovery from an earlier kernel version or earlier upgrade | 06:12 |
bduk1 | Ill tell him | 06:14 |
Squirm | I love our internet | 06:15 |
* Kilos jealous | 06:15 | |
Kilos | hi Xethron | 06:15 |
Xethron | Hello Kilos | 06:16 |
Squirm | I must have downloaded close on 20Gb last night | 06:17 |
Kilos | wow | 06:17 |
Kilos | what do you download that is so big | 06:17 |
Squirm | stuff :P | 06:34 |
Kilos | hehe | 06:35 |
Squirm | need more hdd space | 06:35 |
Kilos | whew | 06:35 |
Kilos | you now in the 3TB league | 06:37 |
Squirm | I fulled up 2x1Tb drives | 06:38 |
Squirm | so yes, just breaching into it | 06:38 |
Kilos | sjoe | 06:38 |
Squirm | I want to invest in a 256Gb SSD | 06:42 |
Kilos | i looked at prices the other day they arent cheap | 06:43 |
Kilos | and i dunno if they will last as long as mechanical drives | 06:44 |
Kilos | did find anything on their reliability | 06:44 |
Kilos | didnt | 06:44 |
mazal | Morning everyone | 06:46 |
Kilos | hi mazal | 06:46 |
mazal | oom Kilos , re that remastersys , the only thing I can think of that makes the iso too big is if you have big files somewhere in folders that is included in the iso | 06:47 |
mazal | I once had that when I had video files in my www folder for my website | 06:47 |
mazal | Also make sure all externals and possible mounted network drives are not mounted | 06:49 |
Kilos | sjoe ive looked everywhere, my /home shows as 1.3g so i dont know where its finding all the stuff | 06:49 |
Kilos | grrr | 06:49 |
Kilos | if you look there is it wanting to add the /storage partition? | 06:50 |
Kilos | i save most stuff to the /storage | 06:50 |
mazal | Unmount all "extra" partitions | 06:51 |
mazal | Externals | 06:51 |
mazal | Network drives | 06:51 |
Kilos | no externals | 06:51 |
Kilos | i really want it to work because this 12.04 is fully upgraded and works lekker | 06:52 |
mazal | Check with boabab what folders have big data and investigate those folders if it is unneeded data | 06:52 |
mazal | Folders /home and apt cache is not included in the iso so don't worry about that one | 06:53 |
Kilos | ok ty lemme see if i can find the prob | 06:53 |
Kilos | i looked at that report but couldnt work out what all it is trying to use | 06:54 |
Kilos | and im using the iso option not the backup one | 06:54 |
Kilos | anyway mazal have you tried a recovery from an earlier upgrade | 06:55 |
mazal | Nah , I'll suffer and hope the next update will fix it :P | 06:55 |
Kilos | in the grub boot menu | 06:55 |
mazal | Too busy to struggle with things that don't work | 06:55 |
Kilos | ah | 06:55 |
mazal | On the next boot I'll just boot with previous kernel and see | 06:56 |
mazal | If that works I'll use the previous kernel until next kernel update | 06:56 |
Squirm | Kilos: they aren't cheap | 06:59 |
Squirm | but, they give you the best percent performance increase for your money spend | 07:00 |
Squirm | s/spend/spent | 07:00 |
Squirm | and I'm sure they'll be more reliable - no moving parts | 07:00 |
Kilos | thats why i looked for the performance side | 07:00 |
Kilos | they look good | 07:01 |
Squirm | “There has never been a better time to invest in SSD technology. The price having reached below R13.26/GB not only makes SSDs more affordable but as the test shows, they are in fact the best value/performance upgrade,” said Kirsty Miller, Consumer Marketing Manager EMEA. | 07:02 |
Kilos | 13.26*256 | 07:03 |
Kilos | Maaz, 13.26*256 | 07:03 |
Maaz | Kilos: 3394.56 | 07:03 |
Kilos | cant be so much | 07:03 |
Squirm | and, http://mybroadband.co.za/news/reviews/58093-kingston-hyperx-3k-240gb-ssd-review.html Shows a comparison between a SSD and a Hybrid drive | 07:03 |
Squirm | the SSD kicks the hybrid drive off the table | 07:04 |
Squirm | nah | 07:04 |
Squirm | maybe R1.2k for a 256Gb | 07:04 |
Squirm | might be cheaper now | 07:04 |
Kilos | just reliability then. old drives just keep going | 07:04 |
Squirm | not if you're moving around | 07:04 |
Squirm | my desktop moves a lot | 07:04 |
Kilos | sjoe you can get 2TB for that price | 07:05 |
Kilos | aha | 07:05 |
Kilos | i go feed sheep quick | 07:05 |
Squirm | I can get a 3Tb for that price | 07:07 |
Squirm | but I have enough hdd space - I need more performance | 07:08 |
Squirm | my old dual core needs to be faster | 07:08 |
Kilos | lol | 07:15 |
Kilos | save up for an i7 | 07:16 |
Kilos | morning superfly | 07:16 |
Squirm | going to buy myself a new PC next year | 07:25 |
Squirm | finished paying off my car end of next month | 07:25 |
Kilos | great | 07:30 |
inetpro | good mornings | 08:03 |
psyatw | good morning inetpro | 08:06 |
Kilos | morning inetpro | 08:14 |
Kilos | hi psyatw | 08:14 |
psyatw | hi Kilos | 08:14 |
ThatGraemeGuy | hellos | 08:37 |
Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 08:37 |
Kilos | wbb | 08:45 |
Kilos | ty mazal unmounting that /storage sorted the prob | 09:23 |
mazal | Remstersys doesn't know what it is and include it as part of the system | 09:50 |
Kilos | crazy but good to know ty | 09:50 |
Kilos | ai! | 09:57 |
Kilos | Unable to save bookmarks in /home/miles/.kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Insufficient permissions in target directory.. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive. | 09:57 |
Kilos | heres the debugging output | 10:03 |
Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s20sEDTqTn | 10:03 |
Kilos | has my writer packed up? | 10:03 |
Kilos | or must i chown something | 10:05 |
Kilos | grrr | 10:06 |
mazal | That's why I always mount to either my home folder or inside /media. Neither of those folders are included in the iso | 10:16 |
Kilos | ya but ive made a remastersys iso here before and burned to dvd, now k3b and brasero spit out the dvds | 10:17 |
Kilos | princo dvd-r | 10:18 |
Kilos | splinter nuut | 10:18 |
superfly | ohi Kilos | 10:22 |
Kilos | hehe hi zerlgi | 10:22 |
superfly | yo ThatGraemeGuy, inetpro, mazal, psyatw, Squirm | 10:22 |
ThatGraemeGuy | aloha | 10:23 |
mazal | o/ | 10:23 |
zerlgi | Yo ola | 10:24 |
zerlgi | Hi there. Any of y'all coming thru to Stellenbosch for Saucy party? | 10:24 |
mazal | That doesn't sound good :) | 10:24 |
mazal | " saucy party " hehehehe | 10:24 |
psyatw | hi superfly | 10:24 |
psyatw | hi mazal | 10:24 |
psyatw | hi zerlgi | 10:25 |
zerlgi | yip. I intentionally left out the salamander. | 10:28 |
zerlgi | Greets psyatw | 10:28 |
Kilos | hehe | 10:28 |
* zerlgi greets kilos superfly mazal thatgraemeguy | 10:30 | |
zerlgi | maaz please wave at Kilos | 10:31 |
Maaz | zerlgi: Excuse me? | 10:31 |
Kilos | haha | 10:31 |
zerlgi | Maaz tell Kilos: Ola | 10:31 |
Maaz | zerlgi: I don't know who Kilos: is. Say 'Kilos: on freenode' and I'll take your word that Kilos: exists | 10:31 |
Kilos | oh my why is he acting stupid | 10:31 |
zerlgi | I thought M would actually send you a message. | 10:36 |
Kilos | he normally does next time i say something | 10:36 |
Kilos | twit bot | 10:36 |
Kilos | Maaz, tell zerlgi hi | 10:36 |
Maaz | Kilos: Okay, I'll tell zerlgi on freenode | 10:36 |
Kilos | oh you put : behing my nick man | 10:37 |
Kilos | behind | 10:37 |
Kilos | Maaz, sorry | 10:37 |
Maaz | Don't be sorry Kilos Be careful. | 10:37 |
Kilos | ai! | 10:37 |
zerlgi | ... most people have a colon at their behind :P | 10:38 |
Maaz | zerlgi: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell zerlgi hi" 2 minutes and 13 seconds ago | 10:38 |
Kilos | hehe | 10:39 |
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Kilos | thats better space | 10:39 |
space | :) | 10:40 |
superfly | the final frontier! | 10:40 |
zerlgi | ... was it whitespace? or b(l)ackspace | 10:42 |
zerlgi | and was there dark matter around Uranus? | 10:42 |
superfly | Just some Klingons | 10:47 |
zerlgi | ;-) | 10:49 |
zerlgi | hiding amongst the moons? | 10:49 |
Kilos | hehe | 10:54 |
mazal | Something big is wrong on my Thunderbird. The calendar data keep dissapearing :( | 11:06 |
mazal | Put backup back , data there , reboot , data gone | 11:06 |
Kilos | ai! | 11:06 |
mazal | Looks like Ubuntu decided I had a break long enough , time to start breaking again | 11:06 |
Kilos | lol | 11:06 |
mazal | Oh Kilos , and I tried booting with an earlier kernel for that Unity dash issue , same problem | 11:07 |
Kilos | then its stuck in all the settings and your stuffs | 11:07 |
Kilos | when i have that prob i reinstall | 11:08 |
Kilos | need clever peeps to sort that | 11:08 |
mazal | Don't have time re-install every two weeks | 11:08 |
Kilos | you been hacked | 11:09 |
* mazal mumbles something about so called technology | 11:09 | |
Kilos | lol | 11:09 |
mazal | I'm so tired of stuff not working | 11:09 |
mazal | Now I don't even want to reboot then thunderbird data gone again | 11:10 |
Kilos | ai1 | 11:11 |
mazal | Enjoy your wekeend everyone | 12:39 |
mazal | oops , weekend even | 12:39 |
mazal | cheers | 12:39 |
Kilos | hmm... | 14:01 |
ThatGraemeGuy | hmm...? | 14:09 |
Kilos | tired now k3b dont like the media in dwd writer | 14:10 |
Kilos | nor does brasero | 14:10 |
Kilos | new princo dvd' | 14:12 |
Kilos | grrr | 14:12 |
Kilos | almost like getting new sticks that arent formatted. gotta format before use | 14:56 |
Kilos | wont work on a dvd | 14:56 |
Kilos | grrr | 14:56 |
nuvolari | o/ alo | 15:37 |
nuvolari | hi oom Kilos | 15:37 |
Kilos | lo nuvolari | 15:37 |
nuvolari | kbmonkey: yeah, I've noticed, I am accustomed to tea now :P I wake up before my alarm clock and I don't feel as tired any longer | 15:38 |
nuvolari | hoe gaan dit oom Kilos ? | 15:38 |
* nuvolari gaan huistoe | 15:38 | |
Kilos | goed dankie nuvolari en jy? | 15:38 |
Kilos | mooi loop | 15:39 |
Kilos | Maaz, announce Monthly meeting monday night at 20.30 guys | 18:18 |
Maaz | Announcement from Kilos! Monthly meeting monday night at 20.30 guys | 18:18 |
kbmonkey | hello Kilos - meeting this monday | 18:23 |
kbmonkey | thanks for the announce | 18:23 |
Kilos | hi kbmonkey yessir | 18:23 |
Kilos | np | 18:23 |
kbmonkey | roger that command | 18:23 |
Kilos | i normally send a mail and tweet too. | 18:23 |
kbmonkey | you are too good man | 18:24 |
Kilos | no man | 18:24 |
Kilos | i been busy | 18:24 |
kbmonkey | say this twitter thing, do you use some client app for that? | 18:24 |
Kilos | stupid new dvds i cant write remastersys.iso to | 18:24 |
kbmonkey | that sucks | 18:24 |
Kilos | ya there is birdie-granite for ubuntu and | 18:25 |
Kilos | um | 18:25 |
Kilos | thats kde thing | 18:25 |
Kilos | um | 18:25 |
Kilos | er | 18:25 |
Kilos | k3b says it dont like the media | 18:26 |
Kilos | so i dunno if the dvd's arent formatted or what | 18:26 |
Kilos | they poup a window that says blank dvd what do you want to do | 18:26 |
Kilos | grrr | 18:26 |
Kilos | oh ya | 18:27 |
Kilos | choqok | 18:27 |
kbmonkey | ah okay | 18:27 |
Kilos | thats the kde app that works | 18:27 |
kbmonkey | rewritable dvd's? | 18:27 |
Kilos | no | 18:27 |
Kilos | dvd-r | 18:27 |
kbmonkey | funy. k3b should handle those fine enough | 18:29 |
Kilos | ya i thought so too | 18:30 |
Kilos | brasero just gives some kinda log and says failed | 18:30 |
Kilos | maybe they making them nowadays to only work with sucks | 18:31 |
Kilos | i found a bug report with 12.04 with something similar so i tried it on maverick too but same prob | 18:32 |
kbmonkey | no details given in k3b? | 18:32 |
Kilos | might be dvd writer? | 18:32 |
kbmonkey | maybe | 18:32 |
Kilos | ya i got a saved log somewhere | 18:33 |
Kilos | first k3b pops up this | 18:36 |
Kilos | Unable to save bookmarks in /home/miles/.kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Insufficient permissions in target directory.. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive. | 18:36 |
Kilos | thats here on unity . i tried going to kubuntu and also cant write | 18:36 |
Kilos | grrr | 18:36 |
kbmonkey | that the only error? | 18:36 |
kbmonkey | lol, funny if that is the reason it fails :p | 18:37 |
Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s20sEDTqTn | 18:37 |
Kilos | no on kubuntu it doesnt give that error | 18:38 |
Kilos | i think that link was the brasero log | 18:38 |
Kilos | here is the k3b debug report | 18:41 |
Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s20qX6t9zv | 18:41 |
kbmonkey | you see on line 66 for brasero says "errno 5" | 18:42 |
kbmonkey | I am searching that now | 18:42 |
Kilos | i had another one that said error 15 | 18:42 |
Kilos | thats where i got to a bug report | 18:42 |
Kilos | grr | 18:42 |
kbmonkey | do you have gnomebaker installed? | 18:43 |
Kilos | maybe i should try burning another iso to dvd | 18:43 |
Kilos | lemme check | 18:43 |
kbmonkey | someone on launchpad bugs said running brasero with 'sudo' worked for them | 18:43 |
Kilos | gnomebaker not in repos | 18:45 |
Kilos | dvds are expensive now though | 18:45 |
Kilos | 4.85 each | 18:45 |
kbmonkey | you sure they are dvd's and not cd's? | 18:46 |
Kilos | ya man i got 3 of each | 18:46 |
Kilos | princo DVD-R | 18:46 |
kbmonkey | I suggest you turn pc off and reconnect the cables to the dvd drive and the mobo | 18:49 |
kbmonkey | if that no help, if you reboot and in grub menu if you can choose an older version of linux kernel? | 18:50 |
kbmonkey | I see you have 3.2, see if there are older ones | 18:50 |
Kilos | i have the same prob with maverick | 18:51 |
Kilos | on k3b and brasero | 18:51 |
Kilos | sudo brasero says | 18:51 |
Kilos | please replace the disk with a supported cd dvd | 18:51 |
Kilos | sigh | 18:51 |
kbmonkey | sounds like your discs are broken. | 18:53 |
Kilos | ya but they new | 18:54 |
Kilos | got them today | 18:54 |
* Kilos cries | 18:54 | |
kbmonkey | does brasero have 'plugins' in its settings | 18:54 |
Kilos | ? | 18:54 |
kbmonkey | how large is that iso?? it it not too large? | 18:56 |
kbmonkey | is it a live cd? | 18:57 |
Kilos | The size of the file is over 2 GiB. Files larger than 2 GiB are not supported by the ISO9660 standard in its first and second versions (the most widespread ones). | 18:57 |
Kilos | It is recommended to use the third version of the ISO9660 standard, which is supported by most operating systems, including Linux and all versions of Windows™. | 18:57 |
Kilos | However, Mac OS X cannot read images created with version 3 of the ISO9660 standard. | 18:57 |
Kilos | just got that | 18:57 |
Kilos | thats going with sudo brasero | 18:57 |
Kilos | this iso is 2.3g | 18:57 |
kbmonkey | are you trying to burn the file to the disc, or trying to burn the _contents_ of the iso as a bootable disc? | 18:57 |
Kilos | yes remastersys makes a live cd thats your full running os | 18:58 |
kbmonkey | you backing it up in other words? | 18:58 |
Kilos | nope im using the distro option | 18:58 |
Kilos | otherwise it only does mile everything | 18:58 |
Kilos | miles | 18:58 |
kbmonkey | oh dear. guess the file is too large then. | 18:59 |
kbmonkey | you don thave a usb instead? | 18:59 |
Kilos | basically its a dvd of your running os | 18:59 |
Kilos | i cant do the remastersys to usb | 18:59 |
Kilos | took the iso and used unetbootin to do it but then it like an install iso | 19:00 |
kbmonkey | eish. | 19:00 |
Kilos | remastersys makes it same as booting from your drive | 19:00 |
kbmonkey | I tried remastersys once, long ago. I could not get it right myself. | 19:00 |
kbmonkey | now I just tar my system files XD | 19:01 |
Kilos | i have kde and unity working but the backup ones | 19:01 |
Kilos | you use same login and password as with you drive | 19:02 |
Kilos | where do i get that iso9660 from | 19:03 |
kbmonkey | um, I am not sure | 19:04 |
kbmonkey | iso9660 is the file system specification for read-only media (like cd-roms) | 19:04 |
Kilos | did you read my paste up a bit | 19:05 |
Kilos | maybe i try force it to write the extras | 19:06 |
kbmonkey | hmm, not sure what you mean by that. sorry man. | 19:09 |
kbmonkey | I read the paste yes | 19:09 |
kbmonkey | errno 5 :( | 19:09 |
Kilos | ssssh its trying | 19:10 |
kbmonkey | shhh | 19:10 |
kbmonkey | the wind is howling tonight. it is making the 3g sad | 19:12 |
kbmonkey | it dropped to 2g, and now 1g. lol. | 19:12 |
Kilos | aw | 19:12 |
Kilos | eish its made an iso in root | 19:25 |
Kilos | /root/brasero.iso | 19:25 |
Kilos | sigh | 19:25 |
kbmonkey | sigh | 19:28 |
Kilos | can the dvds really be unsupported types | 19:29 |
kbmonkey | easier ways to backup | 19:29 |
Kilos | no man i want it on dvd so i can install to a stick | 19:30 |
kbmonkey | hang on - you want to install on usb stick? | 19:30 |
Kilos | yessir | 19:30 |
Kilos | i want my system installed on a stick | 19:31 |
kbmonkey | but remastersys no works on usb :/ eish | 19:32 |
Kilos | it will install to a stick once its on the dvd | 19:33 |
Kilos | it installs like pure ubuntu | 19:33 |
kbmonkey | some distros you just dd the iso to the usb then it becomes like bootable | 19:33 |
kbmonkey | but no guarantee remastersys will do that | 19:33 |
kbmonkey | it depends if it was remastered with syslinux bootstrap | 19:33 |
Kilos | it can install to a drive so im sure it will install to a usb drive as well | 19:34 |
Kilos | it installs your full working os to a drive so you dont need to do anything to carry on working | 19:34 |
kbmonkey | it be very slow to run your OS off usb even | 19:35 |
Kilos | same password and mail client and contacts and pidgin and xchat and everything works off the bat | 19:35 |
Kilos | ya man | 19:36 |
Kilos | i want it to be able to boot with it and fix other pcs | 19:36 |
Kilos | not use permanently | 19:36 |
kbmonkey | I would not put my contacts and personal things on such a disk. eek. | 19:36 |
Kilos | no one touches my stuff | 19:36 |
kbmonkey | paranoir | 19:37 |
Kilos | lol | 19:37 |
kbmonkey | you want it for the programs | 19:38 |
Kilos | yessir all the installed tools i have here | 19:38 |
Kilos | testdisk scalpel foremost and terminal use for fscks and so on and boot-repair | 19:39 |
kbmonkey | well, you could save those apps debs and istall them in a live if you have to | 19:40 |
Kilos | ya i can install from sratch if i have to but a remastersys iso will have everything in it immediately | 19:41 |
kbmonkey | you need a Knoppix disc Kilos ;) that thing is fantastic | 19:41 |
Kilos | whats that | 19:42 |
kbmonkey | its debian kde live cd with all fixing tools | 19:42 |
Kilos | size? | 19:42 |
kbmonkey | no man its cd size - large | 19:43 |
Kilos | night surfer data | 19:43 |
Kilos | but whats it gonna do that my pc here cant do | 19:44 |
kbmonkey | if you want something like that it good. may be best to shop around first. | 19:44 |
kbmonkey | nothing your pc cannot do - unless you cant get remastersys working | 19:44 |
Kilos | lol i will get it going somehow | 19:45 |
Kilos | i now have the brasero.iso of the remastersys.iso | 19:45 |
Kilos | gotta work out how to tell brasero to burn with that one command | 19:46 |
Kilos | what would it be . i gotta do it from inside root because thats where the brasero.iso went | 19:48 |
Kilos | grrr | 19:48 |
kbmonkey | there is also system rescue cd. 420MB linux live usb. you can customize it too. http://www.sysresccd.org | 19:48 |
kbmonkey | just saying, if you dont want to reinvent the wheel :) | 19:49 |
Kilos | i have that on cd | 19:49 |
kbmonkey | oh? well sorted. that has everything you want and more. | 19:49 |
Kilos | but not as good as using my pc to fix things | 19:49 |
kbmonkey | no? | 19:50 |
kbmonkey | it has xfce | 19:50 |
Kilos | nope i got testdisk and foremost and scalpel | 19:50 |
Kilos | and boot-repair | 19:50 |
Kilos | my pc rocks, just slowly | 19:52 |
Kilos | and i have unity kde and maverick | 19:52 |
kbmonkey | hehe alright :] | 19:52 |
kbmonkey | think I will get the new systemrescue - have data to use in next 5 days | 19:52 |
Kilos | ah | 19:53 |
Kilos | some drives dont work with any tools till you run testdisk that sorts the partitions | 19:53 |
kbmonkey | ugh, roaches | 19:54 |
kbmonkey | i will download tomorrow - am actually pretty tired tonight -.- | 20:01 |
Kilos | sigh | 20:01 |
Kilos | :-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=2h/CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT]: Wrong medium type | 20:01 |
Kilos | :-( media is not formatted or unsupported. | 20:01 |
Kilos | :-( write failed: Wrong medium type | 20:01 |
kbmonkey | going to catch up on some sleep | 20:01 |
Kilos | something wrong with these dvds i think | 20:01 |
kbmonkey | oh noe man. that does not sound good | 20:01 |
Kilos | ok kbmonkey sleep tight | 20:01 |
kbmonkey | let us hope it is just those dvd's and not your dvd writer | 20:01 |
Kilos | yeah have a good rest my friend | 20:02 |
Kilos | ty for the help | 20:02 |
kbmonkey | unless there is another way to make your system into a live cd... | 20:02 |
kbmonkey | but no guarantee it will burn any better | 20:03 |
Kilos | there is one thats replacing remastersys but not as good they say | 20:03 |
Kilos | im sure its these dvds | 20:03 |
Kilos | i have a sony here to that did the same thing | 20:03 |
kbmonkey | now you got more coffee coasters | 20:03 |
Kilos | lol | 20:03 |
kbmonkey | of frisbees | 20:03 |
kbmonkey | or wind chimes | 20:04 |
Kilos | ya they can fly hey | 20:04 |
kbmonkey | he he | 20:04 |
Kilos | go sleep | 20:04 |
kbmonkey | night Kilos - see you on the morrow! | 20:04 |
Kilos | night kbmonkey | 20:04 |
Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 20:10 |
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