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Kilosmorning all05:14
Squirmmorning06:04
Kiloshi Squirm mazal 06:04
Kiloshi bduk1 06:07
bduk1morning Kilos and everyone06:10
Kilosi forgot to tell mazal to try when booting to do a recovery from an earlier kernel version or earlier upgrade06:12
bduk1Ill tell him06:14
SquirmI love our internet06:15
* Kilos jealous06:15
Kiloshi Xethron 06:15
XethronHello Kilos06:16
SquirmI must have downloaded close on 20Gb last night06:17
Kiloswow06:17
Kiloswhat do you download that is so big06:17
Squirmstuff :P06:34
Kiloshehe06:35
Squirmneed more hdd space06:35
Kiloswhew06:35
Kilosyou now in the 3TB league06:37
SquirmI fulled up 2x1Tb drives06:38
Squirmso yes, just breaching into it06:38
Kilossjoe06:38
SquirmI want to invest in a 256Gb SSD06:42
Kilosi looked at prices the other day they arent cheap06:43
Kilosand i dunno if they will last as long as mechanical drives06:44
Kilosdid find anything on their reliability06:44
Kilosdidnt06:44
mazalMorning everyone06:46
Kiloshi mazal 06:46
mazaloom Kilos , re that remastersys , the only thing I can think of that makes the iso too big is if you have big files somewhere in folders that is included in the iso06:47
mazalI once had that when I had video files in my www folder for my website06:47
mazalAlso make sure all externals and possible mounted network drives are not mounted06:49
Kilossjoe ive looked everywhere, my /home shows as 1.3g so i dont know where its finding all the stuff06:49
Kilosgrrr06:49
Kilosif you look there is it wanting to add the /storage partition?06:50
Kilosi save most stuff to the /storage06:50
mazalUnmount all "extra" partitions06:51
mazalExternals06:51
mazalNetwork drives06:51
Kilosno externals06:51
Kilosi really want it to work because this 12.04 is fully upgraded and works lekker06:52
mazalCheck with boabab what folders have big data and investigate those folders if it is unneeded data06:52
mazal Folders /home and apt cache is not included in the iso so don't worry about that one06:53
Kilosok ty lemme see if i can find the prob06:53
Kilosi looked at that report but couldnt work out what all it is trying to use06:54
Kilosand im using the iso option not the backup one06:54
Kilosanyway mazal have you tried a recovery from an earlier upgrade06:55
mazalNah , I'll suffer and hope the next update will fix it :P06:55
Kilosin the grub boot menu06:55
mazalToo busy to struggle with things that don't work06:55
Kilosah06:55
mazalOn the next boot I'll just boot with previous kernel and see06:56
mazalIf that works I'll use the previous kernel until next kernel update06:56
SquirmKilos: they aren't cheap06:59
Squirmbut, they give you the best percent performance increase for your money spend07:00
Squirms/spend/spent07:00
Squirmand I'm sure they'll be more reliable - no moving parts07:00
Kilosthats why i looked for the performance side07:00
Kilosthey look good 07:01
Squirm“There has never been a better time to invest in SSD technology. The price having reached below R13.26/GB not only makes SSDs more affordable but as the test shows, they are in fact the best value/performance upgrade,” said Kirsty Miller, Consumer Marketing Manager EMEA.07:02
Kilos13.26*25607:03
KilosMaaz, 13.26*25607:03
MaazKilos: 3394.5607:03
Kiloscant be so much07:03
Squirmand, http://mybroadband.co.za/news/reviews/58093-kingston-hyperx-3k-240gb-ssd-review.html Shows a comparison between a SSD and a Hybrid drive07:03
Squirmthe SSD kicks the hybrid drive off the table07:04
Squirmnah07:04
Squirmmaybe R1.2k for a 256Gb07:04
Squirmmight be cheaper now07:04
Kilosjust reliability then. old drives just keep going07:04
Squirmnot if you're moving around07:04
Squirmmy desktop moves a lot07:04
Kilossjoe you can get 2TB for that price07:05
Kilosaha07:05
Kilosi go feed sheep quick07:05
SquirmI can get a 3Tb for that price07:07
Squirmbut I have enough hdd space - I need more performance07:08
Squirmmy old dual core needs to be faster07:08
Kiloslol07:15
Kilossave up for an i707:16
Kilosmorning superfly 07:16
Squirmgoing to buy myself a new PC next year07:25
Squirmfinished paying off my car end of next month07:25
Kilosgreat07:30
inetprogood mornings08:03
psyatwgood morning inetpro08:06
Kilosmorning inetpro 08:14
Kiloshi psyatw 08:14
psyatwhi Kilos08:14
ThatGraemeGuyhellos08:37
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 08:37
Kiloswbb08:45
Kilosty mazal unmounting that /storage sorted the prob09:23
mazalRemstersys doesn't know what it is and include it as part of the system09:50
Kiloscrazy but good to know ty09:50
Kilosai!09:57
KilosUnable to save bookmarks in /home/miles/.kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Insufficient permissions in target directory.. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.09:57
Kilosheres the debugging output10:03
Kiloshttp://slexy.org/view/s20sEDTqTn10:03
Kiloshas my writer packed up?10:03
Kilosor must i chown something10:05
Kilosgrrr10:06
mazalThat's why I always mount to either my home folder or inside /media. Neither of those folders are included in the iso10:16
Kilosya but ive made a remastersys iso here before and burned to dvd, now k3b and brasero spit out the dvds10:17
Kilosprinco dvd-r10:18
Kilossplinter nuut10:18
superflyohi Kilos10:22
Kiloshehe hi zerlgi 10:22
superflyyo ThatGraemeGuy, inetpro, mazal, psyatw, Squirm10:22
ThatGraemeGuyaloha10:23
mazalo/10:23
zerlgiYo ola10:24
zerlgiHi there. Any of y'all coming thru to Stellenbosch for Saucy party?10:24
mazalThat doesn't sound good :)10:24
mazal" saucy party " hehehehe10:24
psyatwhi superfly10:24
psyatwhi mazal10:24
psyatwhi zerlgi10:25
zerlgiyip. I intentionally left out the salamander.10:28
zerlgiGreets psyatw10:28
Kiloshehe10:28
* zerlgi greets kilos superfly mazal thatgraemeguy10:30
zerlgimaaz please wave at Kilos10:31
Maazzerlgi: Excuse me?10:31
Kiloshaha10:31
zerlgiMaaz tell Kilos: Ola10:31
Maazzerlgi: I don't know who Kilos: is. Say 'Kilos: on freenode' and I'll take your word that Kilos: exists10:31
Kilosoh my why is he acting stupid10:31
zerlgiI thought M would actually send you a message.10:36
Kiloshe normally does next time i say something10:36
Kilostwit bot10:36
KilosMaaz, tell zerlgi hi10:36
MaazKilos: Okay, I'll tell zerlgi on freenode10:36
Kilosoh you put : behing my nick man10:37
Kilosbehind10:37
KilosMaaz, sorry10:37
MaazDon't be sorry Kilos Be careful.10:37
Kilosai!10:37
zerlgi... most people have a colon at their behind :P10:38
Maazzerlgi: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell zerlgi hi" 2 minutes and 13 seconds ago10:38
Kiloshehe10:39
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Kilosthats better space 10:39
space:)10:40
superflythe final frontier!10:40
zerlgi... was it whitespace? or b(l)ackspace10:42
zerlgiand was there dark matter around Uranus?10:42
superflyJust some Klingons10:47
zerlgi;-)10:49
zerlgihiding amongst the moons?10:49
Kiloshehe10:54
mazalSomething big is wrong on my Thunderbird. The calendar data keep dissapearing :(11:06
mazalPut backup back , data there , reboot , data gone11:06
Kilosai!11:06
mazalLooks like Ubuntu decided I had a break long enough , time to start breaking again11:06
Kiloslol11:06
mazalOh Kilos , and I tried booting with an earlier kernel for that Unity dash issue , same problem 11:07
Kilosthen its stuck in all the settings and your stuffs11:07
Kiloswhen i have that prob i reinstall11:08
Kilosneed clever peeps to sort that11:08
mazalDon't have time re-install every two weeks11:08
Kilosyou been hacked11:09
* mazal mumbles something about so called technology11:09
Kiloslol11:09
mazalI'm so tired of stuff not working11:09
mazalNow I don't even want to reboot then thunderbird data gone again11:10
Kilosai111:11
mazalEnjoy your wekeend everyone12:39
mazaloops , weekend even12:39
mazalcheers12:39
Kiloshmm...14:01
ThatGraemeGuyhmm...?14:09
Kilostired now k3b dont like the media in dwd writer14:10
Kilosnor does brasero14:10
Kilosnew princo dvd'14:12
Kilosgrrr14:12
Kilosalmost like getting new sticks that arent formatted. gotta format before use14:56
Kiloswont work on a dvd14:56
Kilosgrrr14:56
nuvolario/ alo15:37
nuvolarihi oom Kilos 15:37
Kiloslo nuvolari 15:37
nuvolarikbmonkey: yeah, I've noticed, I am accustomed to tea now :P I wake up before my alarm clock and I don't feel as tired any longer15:38
nuvolarihoe gaan dit oom Kilos ?15:38
* nuvolari gaan huistoe15:38
Kilosgoed dankie nuvolari en jy?15:38
Kilosmooi loop15:39
KilosMaaz, announce Monthly meeting monday night at 20.30 guys18:18
MaazAnnouncement from Kilos! Monthly meeting monday night at 20.30 guys18:18
kbmonkeyhello Kilos - meeting this monday18:23
kbmonkeythanks for the announce18:23
Kiloshi kbmonkey yessir18:23
Kilosnp18:23
kbmonkeyroger that command18:23
Kilosi normally send a mail and tweet too.18:23
kbmonkeyyou are too good man18:24
Kilosno man18:24
Kilosi been busy18:24
kbmonkeysay this twitter thing, do you use some client app for that?18:24
Kilosstupid new dvds i cant write remastersys.iso to18:24
kbmonkeythat sucks18:24
Kilosya there is birdie-granite for ubuntu and18:25
Kilosum18:25
Kilosthats kde thing18:25
Kilosum18:25
Kiloser18:25
Kilosk3b says it dont like the media18:26
Kilosso i dunno if the dvd's arent formatted or what18:26
Kilosthey poup a window that says blank dvd what do you want to do18:26
Kilosgrrr18:26
Kilosoh ya18:27
Kiloschoqok18:27
kbmonkeyah okay18:27
Kilosthats the kde app that works18:27
kbmonkeyrewritable dvd's?18:27
Kilosno18:27
Kilosdvd-r18:27
kbmonkeyfuny. k3b should handle those fine enough18:29
Kilosya i thought so too18:30
Kilosbrasero just gives some kinda log and says failed18:30
Kilosmaybe they making them nowadays to only work with sucks18:31
Kilosi found a bug report with 12.04 with something similar so i tried it on maverick too but same prob18:32
kbmonkeyno details given in k3b?18:32
Kilosmight be dvd writer?18:32
kbmonkeymaybe18:32
Kilosya i got a saved log somewhere18:33
Kilosfirst k3b pops up this18:36
KilosUnable to save bookmarks in /home/miles/.kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Insufficient permissions in target directory.. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.18:36
Kilosthats here on unity . i tried going to kubuntu and also cant write18:36
Kilosgrrr18:36
kbmonkeythat the only error?18:36
kbmonkeylol, funny if that is the reason it fails :p18:37
Kiloshttp://slexy.org/view/s20sEDTqTn18:37
Kilosno on kubuntu it doesnt give that error18:38
Kilosi think that link was the brasero log18:38
Kiloshere is the k3b debug report18:41
Kiloshttp://slexy.org/view/s20qX6t9zv18:41
kbmonkeyyou see on line 66 for brasero says "errno 5"18:42
kbmonkeyI am searching that now18:42
Kilosi had another one that said error 1518:42
Kilosthats where i got to a bug report18:42
Kilosgrr18:42
kbmonkeydo you have gnomebaker installed?18:43
Kilosmaybe i should try burning another iso to dvd18:43
Kiloslemme check18:43
kbmonkeysomeone on launchpad bugs said running brasero with 'sudo' worked for them18:43
Kilosgnomebaker not in repos18:45
Kilosdvds are expensive now though18:45
Kilos4.85 each18:45
kbmonkeyyou sure they are dvd's and not cd's?18:46
Kilosya man i got 3 of each18:46
Kilosprinco DVD-R18:46
kbmonkeyI suggest you turn pc off and reconnect the cables to the dvd drive and the mobo18:49
kbmonkeyif that no help, if you reboot and in grub menu if you can choose an older version of linux kernel?18:50
kbmonkeyI see you have 3.2, see if there are older ones18:50
Kilosi have the same prob with maverick18:51
Kiloson k3b and brasero18:51
Kilossudo brasero says18:51
Kilosplease replace the disk with a supported cd dvd18:51
Kilossigh18:51
kbmonkeysounds like your discs are broken. 18:53
Kilosya but they new18:54
Kilosgot them today18:54
* Kilos cries18:54
kbmonkeydoes brasero have 'plugins' in its settings18:54
Kilos?18:54
kbmonkeyhow large is that iso?? it it not too large?18:56
kbmonkeyis it a live cd?18:57
KilosThe size of the file is over 2 GiB. Files larger than 2 GiB are not supported by the ISO9660 standard in its first and second versions (the most widespread ones).18:57
KilosIt is recommended to use the third version of the ISO9660 standard, which is supported by most operating systems, including Linux and all versions of Windows™.18:57
KilosHowever, Mac OS X cannot read images created with version 3 of the ISO9660 standard.18:57
Kilosjust got that18:57
Kilosthats going with sudo brasero18:57
Kilosthis iso is 2.3g18:57
kbmonkeyare you trying to burn the file to the disc, or trying to burn the _contents_ of the iso as a bootable disc?18:57
Kilosyes remastersys makes a live cd thats your full running os18:58
kbmonkeyyou backing it up in other words?18:58
Kilosnope im using the distro option18:58
Kilosotherwise it only does mile everything18:58
Kilosmiles18:58
kbmonkeyoh dear. guess the file is too large then.18:59
kbmonkeyyou don thave a usb instead?18:59
Kilosbasically its a dvd of your running os18:59
Kilosi cant do the remastersys to usb18:59
Kilostook the iso and used unetbootin to do it but then it like an install iso19:00
kbmonkeyeish.19:00
Kilosremastersys makes it same as booting from your drive19:00
kbmonkeyI tried remastersys once, long ago. I could not get it right myself.19:00
kbmonkeynow I just tar my system files XD19:01
Kilosi have kde and unity working but the backup ones19:01
Kilosyou use same login and password as with you drive19:02
Kiloswhere do i get that iso9660 from19:03
kbmonkeyum, I am not sure19:04
kbmonkeyiso9660 is the file system specification for read-only media (like cd-roms)19:04
Kilosdid you read my paste up a bit19:05
Kilosmaybe i try force it to write the extras19:06
kbmonkeyhmm, not sure what you mean by that. sorry man.19:09
kbmonkeyI read the paste yes19:09
kbmonkeyerrno 5 :(19:09
Kilosssssh its trying19:10
kbmonkeyshhh19:10
kbmonkeythe wind is howling tonight. it is making the 3g sad19:12
kbmonkeyit dropped to 2g, and now 1g. lol.19:12
Kilosaw19:12
Kiloseish its made an iso in root19:25
Kilos/root/brasero.iso19:25
Kilossigh19:25
kbmonkeysigh19:28
Kiloscan the dvds really be unsupported types19:29
kbmonkeyeasier ways to backup19:29
Kilosno man i want it on dvd so i can install to a stick19:30
kbmonkeyhang on - you want to install on usb stick?19:30
Kilosyessir19:30
Kilosi want my system installed on a stick19:31
kbmonkeybut remastersys no works on usb :/ eish19:32
Kilosit will install to a stick once its on the dvd19:33
Kilosit installs like pure ubuntu19:33
kbmonkeysome distros you just dd the iso to the usb then it becomes like bootable19:33
kbmonkeybut no guarantee remastersys will do that19:33
kbmonkeyit depends if it was remastered with syslinux bootstrap19:33
Kilosit can install to a drive so im sure it will install to a usb drive as well19:34
Kilosit installs your full working os to a drive so you dont need to do anything to carry on working19:34
kbmonkeyit be very slow to run your OS off usb even19:35
Kilossame password and mail client and contacts and pidgin and xchat and everything works off the bat19:35
Kilosya man19:36
Kilosi want it to be able to boot with it and fix other pcs19:36
Kilosnot use permanently19:36
kbmonkeyI would not put my contacts and personal things on such a disk. eek.19:36
Kilosno one touches my stuff19:36
kbmonkeyparanoir19:37
Kiloslol19:37
kbmonkeyyou want it for the programs19:38
Kilosyessir all the installed tools i have here19:38
Kilostestdisk scalpel foremost and terminal use for fscks and so on and boot-repair19:39
kbmonkeywell, you could save those apps debs and istall them in a live if you have to19:40
Kilosya i can install from sratch if i have to but a remastersys iso will have everything in it immediately19:41
kbmonkeyyou need a Knoppix disc Kilos ;) that thing is fantastic19:41
Kiloswhats that19:42
kbmonkeyits debian kde live cd with all fixing tools19:42
Kilossize?19:42
kbmonkeyno man its cd size - large19:43
Kilosnight surfer data19:43
Kilosbut whats it gonna do that my pc here cant do19:44
kbmonkeyif you want something like that it good. may be best to shop around first.19:44
kbmonkeynothing your pc cannot do - unless you cant get remastersys working19:44
Kiloslol i will get it going somehow19:45
Kilosi now have the brasero.iso of the remastersys.iso19:45
Kilosgotta work out how to tell brasero to burn with that one command19:46
Kiloswhat would it be . i gotta do it from inside root because thats where the brasero.iso went19:48
Kilosgrrr19:48
kbmonkeythere is also system rescue cd. 420MB linux live usb. you can customize it too. http://www.sysresccd.org19:48
kbmonkeyjust saying, if you dont want to reinvent the wheel :)19:49
Kilosi have that on cd19:49
kbmonkeyoh? well sorted. that has everything you want and more.19:49
Kilosbut not as good as using my pc to fix things19:49
kbmonkeyno?19:50
kbmonkeyit has xfce19:50
Kilosnope i got testdisk and foremost and scalpel19:50
Kilosand boot-repair19:50
Kilosmy pc rocks, just slowly19:52
Kilosand i have unity kde and maverick19:52
kbmonkeyhehe alright :]19:52
kbmonkeythink I will get the new systemrescue - have data to use in next 5 days19:52
Kilosah19:53
Kilossome drives dont work with any tools till you run testdisk that sorts the partitions19:53
kbmonkeyugh, roaches19:54
kbmonkeyi will download tomorrow - am actually pretty tired tonight -.-20:01
Kilossigh20:01
Kilos:-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=2h/CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT]: Wrong medium type20:01
Kilos:-( media is not formatted or unsupported.20:01
Kilos:-( write failed: Wrong medium type20:01
kbmonkeygoing to catch up on some sleep20:01
Kilossomething wrong with these dvds i think20:01
kbmonkeyoh noe man. that does not sound good20:01
Kilosok kbmonkey sleep tight20:01
kbmonkeylet us hope it is just those dvd's and not your dvd writer20:01
Kilosyeah have a good rest my friend20:02
Kilosty for the help20:02
kbmonkeyunless there is another way to make your system into a live cd...20:02
kbmonkeybut no guarantee it will burn any better20:03
Kilosthere is one thats replacing remastersys but not as good they say20:03
Kilosim sure its these dvds20:03
Kilosi have a sony here to that did the same thing20:03
kbmonkeynow you got more coffee coasters20:03
Kiloslol20:03
kbmonkeyof frisbees20:03
kbmonkeyor wind chimes20:04
Kilosya they can fly hey20:04
kbmonkeyhe he20:04
Kilosgo sleep20:04
kbmonkeynight Kilos - see you on the morrow!20:04
Kilosnight kbmonkey 20:04
Kilosnight all. sleep tight20:10

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