=== space is now known as Guest11383 [05:14] morning all [06:04] morning [06:04] hi Squirm mazal [06:07] hi bduk1 [06:10] morning Kilos and everyone [06:12] i forgot to tell mazal to try when booting to do a recovery from an earlier kernel version or earlier upgrade [06:14] Ill tell him [06:15] I love our internet [06:15] * Kilos jealous [06:15] hi Xethron [06:16] Hello Kilos [06:17] I must have downloaded close on 20Gb last night [06:17] wow [06:17] what do you download that is so big [06:34] stuff :P [06:35] hehe [06:35] need more hdd space [06:35] whew [06:37] you now in the 3TB league [06:38] I fulled up 2x1Tb drives [06:38] so yes, just breaching into it [06:38] sjoe [06:42] I want to invest in a 256Gb SSD [06:43] i looked at prices the other day they arent cheap [06:44] and i dunno if they will last as long as mechanical drives [06:44] did find anything on their reliability [06:44] didnt [06:46] Morning everyone [06:46] hi mazal [06:47] oom Kilos , re that remastersys , the only thing I can think of that makes the iso too big is if you have big files somewhere in folders that is included in the iso [06:47] I once had that when I had video files in my www folder for my website [06:49] Also make sure all externals and possible mounted network drives are not mounted [06:49] sjoe ive looked everywhere, my /home shows as 1.3g so i dont know where its finding all the stuff [06:49] grrr [06:50] if you look there is it wanting to add the /storage partition? [06:50] i save most stuff to the /storage [06:51] Unmount all "extra" partitions [06:51] Externals [06:51] Network drives [06:51] no externals [06:52] i really want it to work because this 12.04 is fully upgraded and works lekker [06:52] Check with boabab what folders have big data and investigate those folders if it is unneeded data [06:53] Folders /home and apt cache is not included in the iso so don't worry about that one [06:53] ok ty lemme see if i can find the prob [06:54] i looked at that report but couldnt work out what all it is trying to use [06:54] and im using the iso option not the backup one [06:55] anyway mazal have you tried a recovery from an earlier upgrade [06:55] Nah , I'll suffer and hope the next update will fix it :P [06:55] in the grub boot menu [06:55] Too busy to struggle with things that don't work [06:55] ah [06:56] On the next boot I'll just boot with previous kernel and see [06:56] If that works I'll use the previous kernel until next kernel update [06:59] Kilos: they aren't cheap [07:00] but, they give you the best percent performance increase for your money spend [07:00] s/spend/spent [07:00] and I'm sure they'll be more reliable - no moving parts [07:00] thats why i looked for the performance side [07:01] they look good [07:02] “There has never been a better time to invest in SSD technology. The price having reached below R13.26/GB not only makes SSDs more affordable but as the test shows, they are in fact the best value/performance upgrade,” said Kirsty Miller, Consumer Marketing Manager EMEA. [07:03] 13.26*256 [07:03] Maaz, 13.26*256 [07:03] Kilos: 3394.56 [07:03] cant be so much [07:03] and, http://mybroadband.co.za/news/reviews/58093-kingston-hyperx-3k-240gb-ssd-review.html Shows a comparison between a SSD and a Hybrid drive [07:04] the SSD kicks the hybrid drive off the table [07:04] nah [07:04] maybe R1.2k for a 256Gb [07:04] might be cheaper now [07:04] just reliability then. old drives just keep going [07:04] not if you're moving around [07:04] my desktop moves a lot [07:05] sjoe you can get 2TB for that price [07:05] aha [07:05] i go feed sheep quick [07:07] I can get a 3Tb for that price [07:08] but I have enough hdd space - I need more performance [07:08] my old dual core needs to be faster [07:15] lol [07:16] save up for an i7 [07:16] morning superfly [07:25] going to buy myself a new PC next year [07:25] finished paying off my car end of next month [07:30] great [08:03] good mornings [08:06] good morning inetpro [08:14] morning inetpro [08:14] hi psyatw [08:14] hi Kilos [08:37] hellos [08:37] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:45] wbb [09:23] ty mazal unmounting that /storage sorted the prob [09:50] Remstersys doesn't know what it is and include it as part of the system [09:50] crazy but good to know ty [09:57] ai! [09:57] Unable to save bookmarks in /home/miles/.kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Insufficient permissions in target directory.. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive. [10:03] heres the debugging output [10:03] http://slexy.org/view/s20sEDTqTn [10:03] has my writer packed up? [10:05] or must i chown something [10:06] grrr [10:16] That's why I always mount to either my home folder or inside /media. Neither of those folders are included in the iso [10:17] ya but ive made a remastersys iso here before and burned to dvd, now k3b and brasero spit out the dvds [10:18] princo dvd-r [10:18] splinter nuut [10:22] ohi Kilos [10:22] hehe hi zerlgi [10:22] yo ThatGraemeGuy, inetpro, mazal, psyatw, Squirm [10:23] aloha [10:23] o/ [10:24] Yo ola [10:24] Hi there. Any of y'all coming thru to Stellenbosch for Saucy party? [10:24] That doesn't sound good :) [10:24] " saucy party " hehehehe [10:24] hi superfly [10:24] hi mazal [10:25] hi zerlgi [10:28] yip. I intentionally left out the salamander. [10:28] Greets psyatw [10:28] hehe [10:30] * zerlgi greets kilos superfly mazal thatgraemeguy [10:31] maaz please wave at Kilos [10:31] zerlgi: Excuse me? [10:31] haha [10:31] Maaz tell Kilos: Ola [10:31] zerlgi: I don't know who Kilos: is. Say 'Kilos: on freenode' and I'll take your word that Kilos: exists [10:31] oh my why is he acting stupid [10:36] I thought M would actually send you a message. [10:36] he normally does next time i say something [10:36] twit bot [10:36] Maaz, tell zerlgi hi [10:36] Kilos: Okay, I'll tell zerlgi on freenode [10:37] oh you put : behing my nick man [10:37] behind [10:37] Maaz, sorry [10:37] Don't be sorry Kilos Be careful. [10:37] ai! [10:38] ... most people have a colon at their behind :P [10:38] zerlgi: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell zerlgi hi" 2 minutes and 13 seconds ago [10:39] hehe === Guest11383 is now known as space [10:39] thats better space [10:40] :) [10:40] the final frontier! [10:42] ... was it whitespace? or b(l)ackspace [10:42] and was there dark matter around Uranus? [10:47] Just some Klingons [10:49] ;-) [10:49] hiding amongst the moons? [10:54] hehe [11:06] Something big is wrong on my Thunderbird. The calendar data keep dissapearing :( [11:06] Put backup back , data there , reboot , data gone [11:06] ai! [11:06] Looks like Ubuntu decided I had a break long enough , time to start breaking again [11:06] lol [11:07] Oh Kilos , and I tried booting with an earlier kernel for that Unity dash issue , same problem [11:07] then its stuck in all the settings and your stuffs [11:08] when i have that prob i reinstall [11:08] need clever peeps to sort that [11:08] Don't have time re-install every two weeks [11:09] you been hacked [11:09] * mazal mumbles something about so called technology [11:09] lol [11:09] I'm so tired of stuff not working [11:10] Now I don't even want to reboot then thunderbird data gone again [11:11] ai1 [12:39] Enjoy your wekeend everyone [12:39] oops , weekend even [12:39] cheers [14:01] hmm... [14:09] hmm...? [14:10] tired now k3b dont like the media in dwd writer [14:10] nor does brasero [14:12] new princo dvd' [14:12] grrr [14:56] almost like getting new sticks that arent formatted. gotta format before use [14:56] wont work on a dvd [14:56] grrr [15:37] o/ alo [15:37] hi oom Kilos [15:37] lo nuvolari [15:38] kbmonkey: yeah, I've noticed, I am accustomed to tea now :P I wake up before my alarm clock and I don't feel as tired any longer [15:38] hoe gaan dit oom Kilos ? [15:38] * nuvolari gaan huistoe [15:38] goed dankie nuvolari en jy? [15:39] mooi loop [18:18] Maaz, announce Monthly meeting monday night at 20.30 guys [18:18] Announcement from Kilos! Monthly meeting monday night at 20.30 guys [18:23] hello Kilos - meeting this monday [18:23] thanks for the announce [18:23] hi kbmonkey yessir [18:23] np [18:23] roger that command [18:23] i normally send a mail and tweet too. [18:24] you are too good man [18:24] no man [18:24] i been busy [18:24] say this twitter thing, do you use some client app for that? [18:24] stupid new dvds i cant write remastersys.iso to [18:24] that sucks [18:25] ya there is birdie-granite for ubuntu and [18:25] um [18:25] thats kde thing [18:25] um [18:25] er [18:26] k3b says it dont like the media [18:26] so i dunno if the dvd's arent formatted or what [18:26] they poup a window that says blank dvd what do you want to do [18:26] grrr [18:27] oh ya [18:27] choqok [18:27] ah okay [18:27] thats the kde app that works [18:27] rewritable dvd's? [18:27] no [18:27] dvd-r [18:29] funy. k3b should handle those fine enough [18:30] ya i thought so too [18:30] brasero just gives some kinda log and says failed [18:31] maybe they making them nowadays to only work with sucks [18:32] i found a bug report with 12.04 with something similar so i tried it on maverick too but same prob [18:32] no details given in k3b? [18:32] might be dvd writer? [18:32] maybe [18:33] ya i got a saved log somewhere [18:36] first k3b pops up this [18:36] Unable to save bookmarks in /home/miles/.kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Insufficient permissions in target directory.. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive. [18:36] thats here on unity . i tried going to kubuntu and also cant write [18:36] grrr [18:36] that the only error? [18:37] lol, funny if that is the reason it fails :p [18:37] http://slexy.org/view/s20sEDTqTn [18:38] no on kubuntu it doesnt give that error [18:38] i think that link was the brasero log [18:41] here is the k3b debug report [18:41] http://slexy.org/view/s20qX6t9zv [18:42] you see on line 66 for brasero says "errno 5" [18:42] I am searching that now [18:42] i had another one that said error 15 [18:42] thats where i got to a bug report [18:42] grr [18:43] do you have gnomebaker installed? [18:43] maybe i should try burning another iso to dvd [18:43] lemme check [18:43] someone on launchpad bugs said running brasero with 'sudo' worked for them [18:45] gnomebaker not in repos [18:45] dvds are expensive now though [18:45] 4.85 each [18:46] you sure they are dvd's and not cd's? [18:46] ya man i got 3 of each [18:46] princo DVD-R [18:49] I suggest you turn pc off and reconnect the cables to the dvd drive and the mobo [18:50] if that no help, if you reboot and in grub menu if you can choose an older version of linux kernel? [18:50] I see you have 3.2, see if there are older ones [18:51] i have the same prob with maverick [18:51] on k3b and brasero [18:51] sudo brasero says [18:51] please replace the disk with a supported cd dvd [18:51] sigh [18:53] sounds like your discs are broken. [18:54] ya but they new [18:54] got them today [18:54] * Kilos cries [18:54] does brasero have 'plugins' in its settings [18:54] ? [18:56] how large is that iso?? it it not too large? [18:57] is it a live cd? [18:57] The size of the file is over 2 GiB. Files larger than 2 GiB are not supported by the ISO9660 standard in its first and second versions (the most widespread ones). [18:57] It is recommended to use the third version of the ISO9660 standard, which is supported by most operating systems, including Linux and all versions of Windows™. [18:57] However, Mac OS X cannot read images created with version 3 of the ISO9660 standard. [18:57] just got that [18:57] thats going with sudo brasero [18:57] this iso is 2.3g [18:57] are you trying to burn the file to the disc, or trying to burn the _contents_ of the iso as a bootable disc? [18:58] yes remastersys makes a live cd thats your full running os [18:58] you backing it up in other words? [18:58] nope im using the distro option [18:58] otherwise it only does mile everything [18:58] miles [18:59] oh dear. guess the file is too large then. [18:59] you don thave a usb instead? [18:59] basically its a dvd of your running os [18:59] i cant do the remastersys to usb [19:00] took the iso and used unetbootin to do it but then it like an install iso [19:00] eish. [19:00] remastersys makes it same as booting from your drive [19:00] I tried remastersys once, long ago. I could not get it right myself. [19:01] now I just tar my system files XD [19:01] i have kde and unity working but the backup ones [19:02] you use same login and password as with you drive [19:03] where do i get that iso9660 from [19:04] um, I am not sure [19:04] iso9660 is the file system specification for read-only media (like cd-roms) [19:05] did you read my paste up a bit [19:06] maybe i try force it to write the extras [19:09] hmm, not sure what you mean by that. sorry man. [19:09] I read the paste yes [19:09] errno 5 :( [19:10] ssssh its trying [19:10] shhh [19:12] the wind is howling tonight. it is making the 3g sad [19:12] it dropped to 2g, and now 1g. lol. [19:12] aw [19:25] eish its made an iso in root [19:25] /root/brasero.iso [19:25] sigh [19:28] sigh [19:29] can the dvds really be unsupported types [19:29] easier ways to backup [19:30] no man i want it on dvd so i can install to a stick [19:30] hang on - you want to install on usb stick? [19:30] yessir [19:31] i want my system installed on a stick [19:32] but remastersys no works on usb :/ eish [19:33] it will install to a stick once its on the dvd [19:33] it installs like pure ubuntu [19:33] some distros you just dd the iso to the usb then it becomes like bootable [19:33] but no guarantee remastersys will do that [19:33] it depends if it was remastered with syslinux bootstrap [19:34] it can install to a drive so im sure it will install to a usb drive as well [19:34] it installs your full working os to a drive so you dont need to do anything to carry on working [19:35] it be very slow to run your OS off usb even [19:35] same password and mail client and contacts and pidgin and xchat and everything works off the bat [19:36] ya man [19:36] i want it to be able to boot with it and fix other pcs [19:36] not use permanently [19:36] I would not put my contacts and personal things on such a disk. eek. [19:36] no one touches my stuff [19:37] paranoir [19:37] lol [19:38] you want it for the programs [19:38] yessir all the installed tools i have here [19:39] testdisk scalpel foremost and terminal use for fscks and so on and boot-repair [19:40] well, you could save those apps debs and istall them in a live if you have to [19:41] ya i can install from sratch if i have to but a remastersys iso will have everything in it immediately [19:41] you need a Knoppix disc Kilos ;) that thing is fantastic [19:42] whats that [19:42] its debian kde live cd with all fixing tools [19:42] size? [19:43] no man its cd size - large [19:43] night surfer data [19:44] but whats it gonna do that my pc here cant do [19:44] if you want something like that it good. may be best to shop around first. [19:44] nothing your pc cannot do - unless you cant get remastersys working [19:45] lol i will get it going somehow [19:45] i now have the brasero.iso of the remastersys.iso [19:46] gotta work out how to tell brasero to burn with that one command [19:48] what would it be . i gotta do it from inside root because thats where the brasero.iso went [19:48] grrr [19:48] there is also system rescue cd. 420MB linux live usb. you can customize it too. http://www.sysresccd.org [19:49] just saying, if you dont want to reinvent the wheel :) [19:49] i have that on cd [19:49] oh? well sorted. that has everything you want and more. [19:49] but not as good as using my pc to fix things [19:50] no? [19:50] it has xfce [19:50] nope i got testdisk and foremost and scalpel [19:50] and boot-repair [19:52] my pc rocks, just slowly [19:52] and i have unity kde and maverick [19:52] hehe alright :] [19:52] think I will get the new systemrescue - have data to use in next 5 days [19:53] ah [19:53] some drives dont work with any tools till you run testdisk that sorts the partitions [19:54] ugh, roaches [20:01] i will download tomorrow - am actually pretty tired tonight -.- [20:01] sigh [20:01] :-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=2h/CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT]: Wrong medium type [20:01] :-( media is not formatted or unsupported. [20:01] :-( write failed: Wrong medium type [20:01] going to catch up on some sleep [20:01] something wrong with these dvds i think [20:01] oh noe man. that does not sound good [20:01] ok kbmonkey sleep tight [20:01] let us hope it is just those dvd's and not your dvd writer [20:02] yeah have a good rest my friend [20:02] ty for the help [20:02] unless there is another way to make your system into a live cd... [20:03] but no guarantee it will burn any better [20:03] there is one thats replacing remastersys but not as good they say [20:03] im sure its these dvds [20:03] i have a sony here to that did the same thing [20:03] now you got more coffee coasters [20:03] lol [20:03] of frisbees [20:04] or wind chimes [20:04] ya they can fly hey [20:04] he he [20:04] go sleep [20:04] night Kilos - see you on the morrow! [20:04] night kbmonkey [20:10] night all. sleep tight