[00:00] <cylex> ObrienDave: how so
[00:00] <cylex> hays: from 13.04 , to 13.10 update-manager -d
[00:00] <cylex> hays: but its better to backup your files, and do a fresh install
[00:00] <Ari-Yang> hays: if you're on 12.04, then you're going to have to upgrade to 13.04 then upgrade from there to 13.10
[00:00] <hays> cylex: its telling me to update to 14.04
[00:01] <Ari-Yang> hays: be aware though, 13.10 might have some bugs....
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> cylex, You are missing the point you have to know what the setup is to install correctly, and we do to to help.
[00:01] <cylex> hays: don't, its buggy
[00:01] <hays> cylex: there's no option for 13.10
[00:01] <cylex> hays: apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:01] <cylex> hays: apt-get upgrade
[00:01] <ObrienDave> cylex... OMG wilee-nilee is trying to help you. follow HIS instructions
[00:01] <cylex> I don't see Wille 's instrudction\
[00:02] <ObrienDave> *gives up and walks away*
[00:02] <nownot> trying to setup a reverse proxy without any luck, anyone have a few min to spare to help out? let me know what I need to post
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> cylex, what is your native language?
[00:02] <cylex> wilee-nilee: guju
[00:03] <Ari-Yang> !upgrade | hays
[00:03] <hays> so if update-manager is forcing me to 14.04 is there another supported upgrade path
[00:03] <cylex> wilee-nilee: gujarati
[00:03] <cylex> hays: you want to upgrade to 14.04?
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> !in | cylex
[00:03] <cylex> hays: or you want to do a dist-upgrade
[00:04] <cylex> wilee-nilee: I live in US, but why are you forwarding me there
[00:04] <cylex> wilee-nilee: heh
[00:04] <sisterFister> so I installed knapshot to get a screenshot. Print sc key didn't seem to be auto saving to anywhere. Anyway any insight as to why my terminal letter spacing looks this way? http://imgur.com/085KN3r    I'm using Lubuntu by the way.
[00:04] <Ari-Yang> cylex: he wants to upgrade to 13.10
[00:04] <Ari-Yang> :|
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> cylex, I have been very clear with, however you seem to not understand, that's why.
[00:05] <cylex> then just type update-manager
[00:05] <cylex> without -d
[00:05] <ObrienDave> *nibbles fingers*
[00:05] <cylex> Willie-nileee: You said there isn't a way to dual boot, but ObrienDave said willee-nileee is helping you and he knows how to dual boot with win8
[00:05] <cylex> it seems like you guys don't want to help
[00:06] <cylex> anyone can help me with Dual boot, with Win8 + Ubuntu
[00:06] <hasanibrahim> hello, i enabled high-contrast while i was trying to install ubuntu for the first time, and i now couldn't find how to disable it.. I'm sorry, i'm so new on ubuntu
[00:06] <ObrienDave> cylex... seems like YOU'RE not paying attention
[00:07] <cylex> ObrienDave: he says you can't
[00:07] <LjL> wilee-nilee: the only language allowed in #ubuntu-in is English
[00:07] <ObrienDave> HE DID NOT SAY THAT
[00:07] <cylex> yes he did
[00:07] <ObrienDave> whatever, bye
[00:07] <Ari-Yang> !dual-boot > cylex
[00:07] <minimec> sisterFister: Change your font and use one that has 'mono' in its title. For the terminal you need a font with one fixed space for each 'sign'
[00:07] <hays> now update-manager -d is telling me to upgrade to 12.10
[00:07] <cylex> thanks, Ari-Yang :>
[00:07] <hays> it seems it gives pseudorandom recommendations :)
[00:08] <cylex> hays: what version you are on
[00:08] <Ari-Yang> hays: if you're on 12.04, you'll have to upgrade to 12.10
[00:08] <hays> 12.04
[00:08] <Ari-Yang> hays: then upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04
[00:08] <sisterFister> minimec: you just saved my life
[00:08] <hays> trying to get to 13.10
[00:08] <Ari-Yang> hays: then from 13.04 upgrade to 13.10
[00:08] <hays> Ari-Yang: ahh ok
[00:08] <Ari-Yang> hays: or you can just download 13.10 iso and install it using that
[00:08] <Ari-Yang> :I
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> LjL, I didn't know that, well they wont communicate with them either then. ;)
[00:09] <minimec> sisterFister: I do that every day...  ;)
[00:09] <sisterFister> pro
[00:09] <ObrienDave> wilee-nilee> cylex, No, it is just a different type of install.
[00:09] <hays> Ari-Yang: yeah that may or may not be faster
[00:09] <hays> based on my internet connection heh
[00:09] <ObrienDave> that does NOT say it can't be done
[00:10] <hays> and I have no CDROM drive so that complicates things perhaps
[00:10] <hays> ill just do it this way...
[00:10] <sisterFister> minimec: would you have an idea as to why i can use something like liberation sans in ubuntu terminal but not in lubuntu lxde terminal?
[00:10] <fishscene> This yields some info on Windows 8 and Ubuntu dual-booting and some of the issues: http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  some terminal apps filter out all the non-mono fonts. because anything thats not mono - can look totally unreadable
[00:11] <cylex> sisterfister: stop trolling
[00:12] <sisterFister> ty Dr_Willis
[00:12] <minimec> sisterFister: Probably because the lxde cannot use ttf fonts. So you only have some basic 'old system fonts' available.
[00:12] <hays> is that sister in the familiar or religious sense
[00:12] <minimec> sisterFister:... the lxde terminal, I mean
[00:12] <sisterFister> hays: religious
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. lxterm here seems to call 'xterm;
[00:13] <sisterFister> Really liking lubuntu so far though. Much quicker on this laptop that I had in the closet.
[00:13] <sisterFister> How about setting global keybindings? I googled around but didn't really find what I was looking for.
[00:13] <sisterFister> in lubuntu
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> oh wait.. lxterm is not lxde's terminal. ;P
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> gnome 3.10 makes saucy really saucy.
[00:14] <hays> i am trying to work out the implications of a sister fister in terms of biblical interpretations of consumation
[00:14] <hays> quite possible this is green-lighted behaviour. anyway
[00:15] <sisterFister> hays: nun who has a stripper name.
[00:15] <minimec> sisterFister: This is a cool tool for keybindigs 'outside' of the window manager http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=xbindkeys&searchon=names
[00:16] <sisterFister> minimec: nice ty!
[00:16] <yoda_jake> Hello, I'm new to Linux! Nice to meet you all! Hello world!
[00:16] <sisterFister> lol
[00:16] <moppy> I'd like to report a bug and I have no idea how to use the tracker: Upgrader lies about how much disk space is needed to upgrade to 13.10. Had 50 MB more than required, it crashed due to zero disk space during upload. (Machine with SSD).
[00:16] <minimec> sisterFister: the 'config' package is the GUI
[00:16] <moppy> s/upload/upgrade
[00:17] <pfifo> so let me get this straight... my subversion client from 13.10 wants me to upgrade my repo, but  now in 12.04 I cant upgrade my subversion client to the same version that 13.10 has, forcing me to keep 2 different working copies in my home folder. This is major problem here, im considering reporting this as a bug before I compile from source.
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> moppy, sometimes the data space is read differently in different apps, you should not have it that full anyway.
[00:18] <pfifo> "Ubunt, linux for people (but screw developers)"
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO_> pfifo one good reason to switch to git ;)
[00:19] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO_: my hosting provider uses subversion, and im happy with their price
[00:19] <moppy> wilee-nilee, I had approximately 1. 3 GB free. This is kind of normal for small SSD laptops.
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> moppy, hardly
[00:19] <hasanibrahim> hello, i enabled high-contrast while i was trying to install ubuntu for the first time, and i now couldn't find how to disable it.. I'm sorry, i'm so new on ubuntu, so can you help please
[00:19] <hays> the process for reporting a bug is usually to (1) report the bug through official channels (2) get flamed by a low level dev for some real or imaginary mistake you've made. (4) address the mistake (5) watch dupes being assigned to your bug (6) eventually the software in queston will be deprecated (7) bug will be marked WONTFIX.   ok in all seriousness there should be a bug reporting system pretty easily finable via google
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO_> pfifo, ahh, your not using a vps?
[00:20] <hays> I've omitted step 3, which is a surprise
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> people may fill them up but that is bad practice
[00:20] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO_: I use a free service that provides subversion, if I use my VPS and dont pay the bill they delete my precious code
[00:21] <project0101> lol hays
[00:21] <moppy> wilee-nilee, 16GB SSD with two OS; Ubuntu has about just under 2 GB left after a fresh install.
[00:21] <hays> i have a bug i opened in thunderbird in something like 2001 that is still open and still debated.
[00:21] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO_: or if I do pay my bill and do something stupid, I delete my code
[00:21] <hays> I finally had to unsuscribe to the bug because I don't use thunderbird anymore and it was making me depressed
[00:21] <project0101> ubuntu is infested with bugs
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO_> pfifo, i getcha
[00:22] <project0101> hi
[00:22] <project0101> anyone here?/
[00:22] <moppy> wilee-nilee, doubltless you will say "get a bigger SSD" but thing is a chip on the main board
[00:22] <project0101> moppy
[00:22] <project0101> are you a windows user?
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> moppy, right, now you can read my mind, lol.
[00:22] <moppy> project0101, not regularly, no. the other OS is chromeOS
[00:23] <lgom> hi everybody, i have some noob asks.
[00:24] <moppy> no real stress, the data isn't local, i'm running the system restore ATM and will reinstal from fresh
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO_> moppy, why not get rid of chrome os? kinda pointless having it when you can have chrome in a real os is it not?
[00:24] <hays> moppy: the problem with your SSD is that you're holding it wrong.
[00:24] <moppy> hitsujiTMO_, you're welcome to tell me how do that :-) bearing in mind chromebooks have firmware designed to boot it
[00:24] <fishscene> Igom: Feel free to ask a question.
[00:24] <moppy> hays, clearly! i agree!
[00:24] <lgom> i have a 2gb ram, 200 hd, core 2 duo 1.50 Ghz laptop and i want to know what's the best distro i can use?
[00:25] <lgom> sometimes ubuntu get lag.
[00:25] <hays> moppy: Some of the chromebooks can be put into a developer mode and have the OS wiped I believe
[00:25] <hays> moppy: but I think this incurs a 5 second delay at boot time or something
[00:25] <ObrienDave> lgom... I suggest Xubuntu
[00:25] <moppy> hays, well you have to be in developer mode that to even get ubuntu on there in the first place
[00:25] <fishscene> lgom: You can try some of the lighter Ubuntu flavors such as Xubuntu or lubuntu
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO_> lgon, ubuntu might be better if you disable background blur in unity search
[00:25] <hays> if you are concerned about ubuntu being to "heavy" yeah xubuntu is a good choice
[00:26] <moppy> lo0k im not upset, im saying the installer lies about disk space required.
[00:26] <hays> there's an xfce mint also >ducks<
[00:26] <hitsujiTMO_> lgom, what DE would you normally use?
[00:26] <ObrienDave> *throws a trout at hays* ;)
[00:26] <lgom> thats a great info, thanks.
[00:27] <hays> but everyone lies about disk space. that's a long standing tradition in the PC community
[00:27] <lgom> sorry hitsujiTMO_ what's DE means?
[00:27] <lgom> sorry @hitsujiTMO_ what's DE means?
[00:27] <moppy> Igom: desktop environment
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO_> lgom, desktop environment
[00:27] <ObrienDave> lgom... Desktop Environment
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO_> lgom: i.e. KDE, gnome, xfce, etc...
[00:28] <hays> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[00:28] <hays> this URI points to brief guidelines for bug reporting in ubuntu
[00:28] <lgom> gnome on ubuntu 13.10
[00:29] <moppy> hays, I see now it is clearly not a bug as you say everyone lies about disk space ... i'll pass on the report :-)
[00:29] <hays> hehe moppy im mostly joking around, feel free to try the bug reporting process. some projects are better than others
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO_> lgom, ubuntu by default has unity (unity sits on top of a hacked up gnome2) ... you can also get a install disk with gnome 3 instad of unity
[00:29] <moppy> erm i mean i will pass; not i will pass it on :)
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> lgom, Install htop and check whats running when it lags, and don;t overdrive the hardware if you are, install a lighter desktop if needed.
[00:30] <moppy> Igom: cor 2 duo ismore than enough for unity, as is your ram
[00:30] <ObrienDave> moppy, it is not necessarily a lie, some calculate in 1,000 character blocks. Some use 1024 blocks. can make quite a difference in the end
[00:30] <hays> and with the quality of installers getting markedly better in recent years, someone might actually care to fix a bug like that
[00:31] <moppy> Igom: the issue you migt have is 3d acceleration
[00:31] <lgom> moppy its enough? i have 2gb for ram
[00:31] <lgom> i think that i can install and other ubuntu flavor, i like xubuntu.
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO_> lgom, more than enough, as i said earlier, easiest thing to cut down some of the chug in unity is to disable background blur (do it in unity-tweak-tool)
[00:32] <lgom> but i really likes ubuntu looks (default)
[00:32] <moppy> two gig ram is more than enough, really. your problem will be unity needs 3d acceleration from the GPU.
[00:32] <hays> lgom: im running straight ubuntu and its fine on this celeron 2gb machine
[00:33] <hays> lgom: but applications are not always very snappy at loading. a different wm probably won't change that much
[00:33] <hays> maybe a little if it frees up some memory
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> hitsujiTMO_, unity sits on top of gnome 3 as a plugin on compiz
[00:33] <tempesta> anybody knows about the citadel server coredump problem described in bug 911732?
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO_> wilee-nilee: is it 3? ok, thought it was 2 since it looked so close to it
[00:34] <Ari-Yang> [20:10:02] <hays> and I have no CDROM drive so that complicates things perhaps ----> uhhh, bootable usb
[00:34] <Ari-Yang> .___.
[00:34] <hays> Ari-Yang: yeah, i know.
[00:34] <moppy> hays you are running out of memory? what apps are you running? unity + a browser have a footprint of about 1 gig
[00:34] <hays> Ari-Yang: whenever I try that it ends up being annoying.. BIOS settings to fish around in, weird methods to make the USB stick, finding a USB stick in my pile that I can erase... etc :)
[00:35] <moppy> you can dd the iso straight to a usb stick
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> hitsujiTMO_, The fallback desktop is a pseudo gnome2 is all
[00:35] <hays> moppy: no, im fine i was just commenting that I have a weak, slow computer and it runs straight ubuntu fine.
[00:35] <hays> yeah that part is easier in linux.
[00:36] <bjsnider> could someone with unity run this command please: qdbus --session com.canonical.indicator.session
[00:36] <bjsnider> pastebin results
[00:36] <lgom> well i read that i can still running ubuntu with out problems. That's ok. I really love to wor on my laptop when i erase windows at all! XD
[00:36] <moppy> well on windows, there's a graphical usb creator you can download from a link on  the ubuntu site in the inatsllation guide
[00:36] <lgom> *work
[00:36] <hays> the other reason I'm not doing it is because this laptop has a pretty neat "restore to factory" feature built in that I don't want to accidentally corrupt/erase by doing a fresh install
[00:36] <moppy> igom: you might need to use a different desktop, but see how it goes. i dont know what GPU your machine has
[00:37] <hays> im __pretty__ sure its just a recovery partition, but im not sure because apt- sometimes gives me messages about it too
[00:38] <moppy> yay got chrome OS back running; just got to re-partition and install Saucy now
[00:38] <hays> and ASUS has apparently denied existence of this laptop model existing at all, so finding any sort of recovery disk is basically impossilble
[00:38] <lgom> uhmmm i don't now what gpu has. I think.
[00:40] <moppy> hrm they are up to 3.8 kernel, nice. i use the chrome kernel under the ubuntu desktop and usermode apps
[00:40] <hays> moppy: i think there is a 3.11 kernel floating around
[00:41] <hays> and by I think there is one, i mean I am using it
[00:41] <moppy> yea but you dont have a firmware that's locked to boot particular kernels unless you jump though many technical hoops
[00:41] <hays> heh
[00:42] <hays> yeah that's why I bought this POS instead ofa chromebook
[00:46] <tempesta> is there a solution for bug 911732 - citadel server crash?
[00:49] <lgom> btw i don't use a irc since... ufff, about 1997 or 1998!
[00:49] <lgom> on mIRC! XD
[00:51] <jhave> Hello
[00:52] <jhave> I have just upgrade to 13.10 but its use PHP5.5 and ioncube not support it
[00:52] <jhave> how do i change to PHP 5.4?
[00:52] <lgom> ...
[00:53] <jhave> or are there a another way to fix it ?
[00:53] <jack> are? is...
[00:53] <jack> sorry
[00:53] <moppy> jhave, have you looked for the older version in symantec?
[00:53] <moppy> oops synapic
[00:53] <rammm> jhave: type rm -rf /
[00:54] <jack> evil
[00:54] <moppy> also wont work, ubutnu wont allow that one
[00:54] <jhave> moppy, no ?
[00:54] <jrib> jhave: don't run that command
[00:55] <rammm> RUN IT
[00:55] <jrib> rammm: what are you doing... that behavior is not welcomed here.  Stop or you will be banned.
[00:55] <jhave> I dont think it fix the problem ;)
[00:55] <rammm> :D
[00:55] <rammm> >:D
[00:55] <ObrienDave> rammm... already got booted from the OT channel
[00:56] <jack> fixes....
[00:58] <Ari-Yang> ramine: stop, just stop
[00:58] <phunyguy> !danger
[00:58] <jack> lol
[00:58] <rammm> lol
[00:58] <Ari-Yang> >commands that should've be uttered
[00:58] <Ari-Yang> :b
[00:59] <moppy> jhave, sorry what i suggest you do is look in the ubuntu packages list for the older verison, then install it manually
[00:59] <moppy> jhave, obviously remove the newer one first
[01:00] <moppy> jhave, i cant remeber  how to lock the verison so updates don't replace it
[01:01] <everald> Hello. How can I see how much storage space there is left on Ubuntu One?
[01:01] <phunyguy> everald: in the app or online iirc
[01:02] <moppy> everald, the ubuntuone program tells you
[01:02] <everald> I can't see it online anywhere.
[01:02] <moppy> everald, open the app, it's on the front page at the top
[01:06] <everald> Ok, thanks. BTW wondering what the "Ubuntu One" folder in my home is for?
[01:07] <moppy> everald, that folder is sync'ed with the cloud
[01:07] <everald> I was thinking that it was a remote mount of the ubuntu one space, but that doesn't seem to be the case--it seems to be a local folder.
[01:07] <everald> Aha. Got it.
[01:07] <moppy> everald, it is a remote mount but you need to enable it
[01:07] <moppy> well it's not a mount
[01:07] <moppy> it's a sync'ed copy sorry
[01:09] <everald> Yes, got it.
[01:09] <everald> There's a problem: the backup tool still says "Backup location is too small. Try using one with more space.",
[01:10] <everald> even though I purchased more space, have got 25G now, and only 13% used.
[01:10] <everald> Actually it was using 3.2 GB before, out of 5GB. Why is it saying it doesn't have enough space?
[01:12] <everald> Hm, could it be running out of space in /tmp or somewhere?
[01:12] <everald> Sigh, imprecise error messages.
[01:13] <pseubodot> Hi there. I recently upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 (amd64) over three machines. Am impressed with how the interface keeps getting more polished. One minor issue that arises is that in Unity on one machine I can no get programs or files shown in the hud when I type. the 'search' icon just turns ... Is there something I missed (eg. unity equivalent of update-dlocatedb) ?
[01:22] <bobmatrix> hey
[01:22] <bobmatrix> ok good its working
[01:23] <bobmatrix> yey
[01:25] <ctcb> Okay, so I recently bought a new Laptop, and It had Windows 8 on. I formatted my 8GB USB Stick and put  Ubuntu 13.10 64-Bit on it and restarted the PC. Everything is fine, but I'm now at the Installation type / Custom partition thing.
[01:25] <ctcb> But I have a problem here.
[01:25] <ctcb> I can't add the 827MB of Free Space in /dev/sda to /dev/sda2
[01:25] <ctcb> /dev/sda2 is the main 1TB Hard Drive.
[01:26] <YellowGTO> Hey guys im having an issue. My motherboard has onboard audio Creative CA0132 chip
[01:26] <YellowGTO> Im having trouble getting this to work
[01:26] <ctcb> /dev/sda was the recovery drive from HP.
[01:27] <everald> Ok, seems that we actually had too much stuff to backup (more than the 25GB), and did't see the error message in the past. Ignored part of the home dir, now seems ok.
[01:27] <ObrienDave> ctcb... do you really want to do this?
[01:28] <ctcb> ObrienDave, I'm losing 827MB from my 1TB Hard Drive. :(
[01:28] <ctcb> I need all those MB's.
[01:29] <ObrienDave> ctcb... only asking if you are SURE you want to kill windows recovery
[01:31] <ctcb> I'm sure, I don't want to go back to Windows. I only use Windows on my Gaming PC, because 95% of the Games in the world aren't Linux Compatable yet.
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> ctcb, Have you installed linux yet?
[01:33] <ctcb> wilee-nilee, not yet, I'm on the screen where you pick what Drive to install to, and you can edit them and stuff.
[01:34] <ObrienDave> he's just starting the install i think.
[01:34] <ObrienDave> the gparted screen
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> ctcb, Yu plan to keep windows at all on the HD?
[01:34] <ctcb> wilee-nilee, not at all.
[01:34] <ctcb> Ubuntu is my laptop OS. :D
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> ctcb, That is a uefi gpt partitioning setup removing windows completely, may require a new partition table to msdos to just run linux easily.
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> and setting the bios to legacy, be careful here
[01:36] <kxtwo> hey guys, anyone familiar with unetbootin?
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, many are state the issues to the channel.
[01:37] <ctcb> wilee-nilee: Would it be better to install Ubuntu on my HD, and then extend it by moving the free space?
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> ctcb, That has nothing to do with what I said, do you understand what I stated as a possibility?
[01:39] <ctcb> wilee-nilee, Uh... no?
[01:40] <kxtwo> yah, the # is empty so thought it might be worth coming here.  ANyway, my friend wants windows on a laptop so I am using unetbootin to create a windows 7 usb.  it is stuck at 52 percent though.  I looked it up on the net and it said its normal to hang for a few minutes at that point because its is over 2G file size but its been 20+ minutes.  was wondering if anyone had any ideas
[01:41] <kxtwo> FYI the reason im using unetbootin is because I only have ubuntu, no windows.
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> ctcb, That is okay, windows 8 has a totally different partitioning set up and bios then earlier computers, it is a uefi safe boot and gpt partitioning, that is attached to the main chip, and the ubuntu install would be communicating with that W8 system to run normally. Removing all of it may need you to change the partition table to be run ubuntu only, I would get help on this is all I suggest.
[01:46] <kxtwo> anything
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, what IS are you using to load the W7 to the usb?
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> OS*
[01:47] <kxtwo> um
[01:47] <kxtwo> ubuntu...
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, use this. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> unetbootin sometimes has worked supposedly, this tool does everytime.
[01:49] <joshs> i am using xubuntu and i want to import photos from my kodak camera, how do i do this?
[01:52] <mihir> k
[01:52] <ahoneybun> I was in here yesterday about my lenovo notebook
[01:52] <mihir> exit
[01:53] <ahoneybun> I fixed it and got Ubuntu working
[01:59] <ahoneybun> hello
[01:59] <SchrodingersScat> ahoneybun: hey
[02:00] <bigbadben> So i have this folder called programs I visit often and doing cd /path/to/Programs/DirectoryInPrograms gets tedious after some many times is there a better way to do this so I can just cd Programs/DirectoryInPrograms. Should I add a alias or is there a better way?
[02:01] <SchrodingersScat> bigbadben: softlink?
[02:01] <SchrodingersScat> !info ln | bigbadben
[02:01] <noneone> bigbadben: alias CHOSENALIAS="command"
[02:02] <ahoneybun> SchrodingersScat, hey
[02:02] <bigbadben> is there a better way than an alias or not really
[02:03] <SchrodingersScat> bigbadben: symbolic rather, ln -s /foo/bar/directory /path/to/programs/DirectoryInPrograms
[02:03] <SchrodingersScat> bigbadben: read the manual for 'ln' though.
[02:03] <bigbadben> For sure thanks
[02:05] <fulei> i have a problem when Install ubuntu12.10 from ftp server
[02:05] <fulei> Oct 24 08:48:22 main-menu[345]: INFO: Menu item 'live-installer' selected Oct 24 08:48:22 base-installer: error: Could not find any live images Oct 24 08:48:22 main-menu[345]: WARNING **: Configuring 'live-installer' failed with error code 1 Oct 24 08:48:22 main-menu[345]: WARNING **: Menu item 'live-installer' failed.
[02:06] <fulei> i have a problem when Install ubuntu12.10 from ftp server :
[02:06] <fulei> "
[02:06] <fulei> INFO: Menu item 'live-installer' selected
[02:06] <fulei> error: Could not find any live images
[02:06] <fulei> '
[02:06] <FloodBot1> fulei: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:06] <fulei> Ok
[02:07] <SchrodingersScat> fulei: did you md5 the image?  if you burned it to dvd or made a liveUSB, maybe try again?
[02:07] <fulei> I install ubuntu I Start from USB flash disk and get image from FTP server
[02:08] <SchrodingersScat> fulei: k, if you were me then you'd probably be re-imaging the usb flash disk again, after making sure the md5sum matches.
[02:08] <fulei> mirror/ftp/hostname=192.168.1.3
[02:08] <fulei> I used this method to install the 12.04 version successfully, but when I install 12.10 version it fails 
[02:09] <troulouliou_dev> hi since i migrated to 13.10 my battery status is always 0% in, any idea ?
[02:09] <fulei> I put ubuntu-12.04.2-server-i386.iso and ubuntu-12.10-server-i386.iso in ftp server 192.168.1.3
[02:09] <loa> Hello, what i can do if my screensaver stop working?
[02:09] <ahoneybun> troulouliou_dev, I think that is a reported bug
[02:09] <loa> I 100% sure that it wrok some time after boot
[02:09] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun, ok checking now
[02:10] <loa> but now i idle more then time i set for max idle
[02:10] <loa> it don't activate screensaver
[02:11] <ahoneybun> troulouliou_dev, at least I heard about it in Kubuntu I think
[02:12] <hays> when i am updating to 13.04 it says its an alpha release in the release notes?  true?
[02:13] <ahoneybun> hays, we are on 13.10 now
[02:13] <ahoneybun> troulouliou_dev, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-baseapps/+bug/1235633
[02:13] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun, ok thanks found some other too
[02:14] <YellowGT0> Hey guys
[02:14] <YellowGT0> Im trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 but I get major corruption issues
[02:14] <YellowGT0> I can't see anything on the screen
[02:14] <YellowGT0> Is there a safemode installer?
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | YellowGT0
[02:15] <troulouliou_dev> ahoneybun, will wait then thanks
[02:16] <ahoneybun> YellowGT0, I get that same problem
[02:16] <YellowGT0> Crossfire ATi ahoneybun ?
[02:16] <hays> hmm ok the confirmation window to upgrade to 13.04 is too tall for me to hit the yes button and CR doesn't seem to work either
[02:16] <ahoneybun> YellowGT0, Ideapad with a onboard Intel and a nvidia
[02:17] <YellowGT0> Thank you wilee-nilee and ubottu
[02:17] <hays> what a weird problem/bug
[02:17] <YellowGT0> I swear I googled the hell ouit of it from my phone
[02:17] <YellowGT0> Hmm
[02:17] <YellowGT0> Well Brb
[02:17] <YellowGT0> Lets see if it works
[02:17] <YellowGT0> :)
[02:17] <reisio> at least it won't have any hell now
[02:18] <ahoneybun> YellowGT0, I used nomodeset to get the installer to work and then had to install bumblebee and bumblebee-nvidia to get a working xorg
[02:21] <furoido> anyone having problem with chrome/chromium browser?
[02:21] <reisio> furoido: you?
[02:21] <furoido> page titles on tab are not showing
[02:22] <furoido> on two computers. same hardwares, same 13.10
[02:23] <sam113101> how do I know if KMS is used?
[02:23] <reisio> furoido: might query #chromium
[02:24] <reisio> sam113101: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28033/how-to-check-the-information-of-current-installed-video-drivers
[02:26] <kxtwo> wilee-nilee, not having much more l uck with winusb
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, where is the windows ISO from?
[02:28] <kxtwo> it is running just really slowly
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, where was the iso gotten from?
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> this a microsoft ISO?
[02:29] <kxtwo> yes
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, and gotten from where?
[02:29] <kxtwo> from microsoft
[02:30] <reisio> that would've been my guess :p
[02:30] <reisio> kxtwo: what're you trying to do?
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> reisio, load a W7 iso to a usb.
[02:31] <kxtwo> install win7 on a friends laptop.  I dont hve windows so was trying to put the iso on a usb to install.
[02:31] <kxtwo> I used unetbootin but it froze at 52 percent for over 30 minuts, now trying winusb but its super slow.  Might be working but don't know yet
[02:31] <reisio> kxtwo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28033/how-to-check-the-information-of-current-installed-video-drivers
[02:31] <reisio> only reliable way I have ever come across
[02:32] <reisio> erm, wrong paste
[02:32] <reisio> kxtwo: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-167060
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, I have to wonder if the iso is not corrupted should not take that long to load, how big is the iso if you right click it then hit properties
[02:33] <kxtwo> close to 4
[02:33] <hitsujiTMO> 4 bytes?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, 4 gigs, what release?
[02:34] <reisio> you can get the windows image checksums off of msdn
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> yeah I would do that
[02:34] <fahadash> Has anybody ever used xubuntu ?
[02:35] <ObrienDave> all the time ;)
[02:36] <kxtwo> at this point I'd be better off with a torrented version jeez
[02:37] <garcianc> kxtwo, were you trying to setup dual boot?
[02:37] <fahadash> ObrienDave: I don't wanna challenge the dictatorship of operators. would you be available at #ubuntu-offtopic for a quick question ?
[02:37] <reisio> kxtwo: http://is.gd/X4IjmC the 'Details' link expands and shows a sha-1 sum, ordinary Windows 7 x64 Ultimate in English is listed as, for example, 'Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) - DVD (English)'
[02:37] <ObrienDave> sure, if I can
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, a torrent version would not be safe, nor will you get any support anywhere on freenode unless you lie.
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> reisio but is his iso an msdn one?
[02:39] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: if he doesn't know, those sums can tell him
[02:39] <kxtwo> let it go wilee-nilee It was obvious from your questionining you were against pirating, but torrenting does not equal pirating :)
[02:39] <sublimefreak> Hey guys I installed 13.10 server on a laptop, how sd config the power management so that it is always on?
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> kxtwo, that is a assumption, and torrenting is illegal to get windows.
[02:39] <reisio> it'd be safe if the checksum passed, but that is another discussion
[02:40] <sublimefreak> opps * how do I
[02:40] <kxtwo> I hate it when people dont understand how this works
[02:40] <kxtwo> torrenting is not illegal
[02:40] <reisio> sublimefreak: should be in the menu somewheres
[02:40] <kxtwo> if I have rights to what I am downloading
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> It is to get windows
[02:40] <reisio> kxtwo: it's not even if you don't :) but that's not really what this channel is for talking about
[02:41] <kxtwo> reisio, I know I am just responding to wilee-nilee it was blatantly obvious from the get go he was trying to dig and find out if I was pirating 7 lol.
[02:41] <sublimefreak> reisio how do I get to the menu from the command line?
[02:41] <reisio> as to putting a valid Windows image onto USB from Ubuntu, I gave you a link explaining how to do it, so you're all set :)
[02:41] <reisio> kxtwo: I know I know :)
[02:41] <kxtwo> reisio, im still holding out on winusb
[02:41] <reisio> I think he's probably just trying to be in compliance with the channel and network rules
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> kxtwo do you have a licence on the bottom of your laptop?
[02:41] <kxtwo> reisio, just not sure why its so slow
[02:41] <pigletfly> oh
[02:41] <reisio> kxtwo: really, that thing I linked is the only reliable way I've come across
[02:41] <reisio> sublimefreak: ordinarily you don't
[02:41] <reisio> sublimefreak: some reason you need to?
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> I also gave a excellent tool that is a fork of the windows usb tool
[02:42] <pigletfly> how to set up 5G wifi in ubuntu?
[02:42] <reisio> microsoft dvd usb image tool?
[02:42] <reisio> is unreliable
[02:42] <reisio> I think they violated GPL on that one, too
[02:42] <sublimefreak> The server is command line only isn't it?
[02:42] <kxtwo> if I get desperate I will just grab a windows machine
[02:42] <reisio> sublimefreak: ordinarily
[02:42] <reisio> sublimefreak: it also wouldn't have power management set to sleep the system
[02:43] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: its easier to use diskpart ... especially if you wany uefi boot
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> reisio, The fork works and the tool is provided by them, all ones needs anyway is a ntfs with a boot flag and a extract toiboot it anyway
[02:43] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: more reliable, I'm sure
[02:43] <reisio> all I know is it failed when I tried it :)
[02:44] <hitsujiTMO> using diskpart allows you to format the usb as fat32, ms tool only formats it as ntfs ... and you have to have fat32 for uefi install
[02:44] <sam113101> reisio: which part is supposed to help me?
[02:44] <reisio> sam113101: the stuff about grepping and lsmod
[02:45] <sam113101> I know what my graphic card is and which X driver is in use
[02:45] <sublimefreak> reisio, it seems to have some sort of power management. Everytime the screen turns off on the laptop I lose my ssh connection on my other machine.
[02:45] <reisio> sam113101: what do you need to know?
[02:45] <sam113101> I don't know if the kernel uses a specific driver
[02:45] <sam113101> to allow KMS
[02:45] <reisio> sublimefreak: hrmm
[02:45] <reisio> sublimefreak: check your ssh timeout first
[02:46] <reisio> sublimefreak: but that'd be normal, actually, nevermind
[02:46] <sam113101> KMS = the kernel knows about my graphic card and the bootsplash can display better, right?
[02:46] <reisio> sublimefreak: unless you're using screen/tmux, if your client dies, that's it
[02:46] <reisio> sam113101: potentially, yup, "better"
[02:47] <sublimefreak> ok I'll investigate further. Thanks reisio
[02:48] <reisio> sublimefreak: sounds like you just need to use screen or tmux on the server, and toggle your client box's power management if it still bothers you
[02:51] <West> Is there a way to disable thumbnails by size ? Whenever I use type in a .py or .cs file the thumbnail shows text. I know to how to disable thumbnails on nautilus, but is there a way to do this by file types ? Thanks
[02:53] <reisio> so it's making a thumbnail of the text appearance instead of just using an icon?
[02:53] <West> reisio: yes
[02:53] <dannymichel> is there a terminal comand i can use to move any file with word 'cover' in the file name?
[02:53] <reisio> that does sound silly
[02:54] <reisio> dannymichel: yeah...
[02:54] <dannymichel> reisio: can you let me know it?
[02:55] <somsip> dannymichel: this will give you the right idea http://is.gd/I2Fq4P
[02:55] <reisio> dannymichel: yeah I'll have to figure it out, min
[02:55] <reisio> oh in the file name
[02:55] <garcianc> dannymichel, you need something more complicated than a simple mv command?
[02:55] <reisio> bah I was thinking within the file for some reason
[02:56] <reisio> yeah find start/point/ -iname '*cover*' -exec mv -n {} new/path/ \; should suffice
[02:56] <reisio> or -name if you only want lowercase 'cover' exactly
[02:57] <reisio> do it with just find start/point/ -iname '*cover*' first, so you know all the files you find are the ones you want to move, then add the rest
[02:57] <sam113101> reisio: should the console font also be ajusted to my screen? ie. not 800x600 on a 1920x1200 monitor
[02:57] <reisio> sam113101: hrmm?
[02:58] <sam113101> KMS
[02:58] <sam113101> sometimes it's stretched out ;_;
[02:59] <reisio> it's probably using the best res it can for your monitor
[02:59] <dannymichel> no, i just need a simple mv command garcianc .
[02:59] <reisio> you could reconfigure it to something you might personally prefer, probably
[02:59] <reisio> but I wouldn't bother if you're only going to be in X most of the time
[02:59] <dannymichel> i tried  find ~/Desktop/Advertising\ CSR/ -iname "*cover" -exec mv {} ~/Desktop/Resume \; in the terminal and it didnt work
[02:59] <reisio> dannymichel: *cover or *cover* ?
[03:00] <reisio> garcianc was basically asking if you needed to find them recursively
[03:00] <reisio> or if they can all be assumed to be in one dir
[03:00] <garcianc> dannymichel, if case is not an issue you can simply use: mv *cover* <destination path>
[03:00] <dannymichel> any file with the name cover in the file name
[03:00] <reisio> in the case of the latter, you could just do mv -n dir/*cover* elsewhere/
[03:00] <sam113101> "nomodeset" disables KMS?
[03:01] <dannymichel> ' ~/Desktop/Resume' is the destination
[03:01] <reisio> sam113101: ms stands for mode setting
[03:01] <daniel_> GUYS! I did a sudo apt-get update and now my moka icon theme isn't working in unity?
[03:01] <reisio> dannymichel: is it an existing directory?
[03:01] <dannymichel>  ~/Desktop/Advertising\ CSR/ is wher eim looking in garcianc
[03:01] <sam113101> so?
[03:01] <nownot> does anyone in here have experience setting up reverse proxies using apache?
[03:02] <reisio> sam113101: so yes
[03:02] <sam113101> cool man
[03:02] <reisio> nownot: #httpd
[03:02] <nownot> reisio: it's dead in there :(
[03:02] <sam113101> my brain is putting it all together, finally
[03:03] <dannymichel> garcianc:  thanks
[03:03] <dannymichel> that worked
[03:03] <sam113101> so the kernel driver and the X driver are two different drivers?
[03:03] <garcianc> cool
[03:04] <sam113101> but I guess the kernel driver does less stuff, so is less complex
[03:04] <sam113101> just setting the resolution and color depth, maybe
[03:05] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_setting#Linux
[03:05] <reisio> they both have their place
[03:06] <sam113101> ok
[03:06] <sam113101> reisio: do you know where I can learn more about unix-like operating system, such as current linux distros? know more about their inner working, the components, startup process, etc.
[03:07] <sam113101> the graphic stack
[03:07] <IzzyD> hey, i was wondering if i could get a little help with installing alongside win8.
[03:07] <sam113101> have an overview of existing unix tools
[03:07] <Ari-Yang> sam113101: google
[03:07] <Ari-Yang> sam113101: what you just asked isn't really an ubuntu tech support question...
[03:08] <reisio> sam113101: wikipedia will suffice for general knowledge
[03:08] <reisio> IzzyD: what about it?
[03:08] <IzzyD> and before i get the answer to google it, i have a few install guides already, but the seem to keep failing me.
[03:09] <IzzyD> reisio: i've tried to install multiple times already with little to no success.
[03:10] <reisio> IzzyD: what happens?
[03:10] <IzzyD> reisio: usually it's been a pretty smooth install for me on other laptops and desktops, but this time i'm having all kinds of problems that i'm assuming have to do with secure boot and the uefi.
[03:10] <reisio> like what?
[03:10] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: can you boot the installer?
[03:11] <IzzyD> reisio: when i boot from usb it take me to the grub installer, where i have the options to try, install or oem install, but no matter what option i tried, it just sends me to a black screen and sits there.
[03:12] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: add kernel param nomodeset
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[03:12] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: what exactly is that?
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> e) to edit kernel line/entrys - theres a line that says 'quiet splash'   make it 'quiet nomodeset splash'
[03:13] <reisio> IzzyD: it turns off graphical things you don't need, that may potentially malfunction
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> the theres some key (f10?) to boot the new edited entry.
[03:13] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: what's "quiet" for?
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> quiet is for the loggine messages.
[03:13] <hitsujiTMO> quiet = doesnt spit dmesg at you
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> change it to noquiet nomodeset nofb     if you want.
[03:14] <sam113101> nofb = ?
[03:14] <IzzyD> reisio: hitsujiTMO  will it affect my windows 8 install at all?
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> framebuffer
[03:14] <nownot> so networking and httpd is dead, anyone got a few to help me out with reverse proxy?
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> noquiet nofb nomodeset nosplash             ;) turns about everything off
[03:15] <sam113101> where can I change that, man, ubuntu doesn't install grub (or hides it, idk) nowadays
[03:15] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: not yet ... wait till you get to the installer for all that
[03:15] <reisio> IzzyD: it's just for the installer session
[03:15] <sam113101> nofb = uses text mode instead?
[03:15] <sam113101> right
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> console uses framebufer by default.
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> that makes it not use the frameuffer console
[03:15] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: grub stays quiet unless you fail to boot, or you hold right shift on boot
[03:16] <sam113101> right shift, will try it
[03:16] <IzzyD> reisio: hitsujiTMO: do either of you have a way that i can contact you off from here? this is the laptop i'm trying to install on.
[03:16] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: fraid not
[03:16] <reisio> IzzyD: if you can get it to boot, just come back here on the live OS
[03:16] <reisio> there's an IRC client on there, IIRC
[03:16] <sam113101> if I use text mode and don't have a monitor, but have a vt100 attached to the computer, will it use the vt100?
[03:17] <reisio> IzzyD: you'd want to start with 'try' instead of 'install' in that case
[03:17] <IzzyD> ok, and how do i go about installing the nomodeset?
[03:17] <reisio> IzzyD: it's just an option you pass, I thought someone told the bot to tell you how
[03:17] <jack> sam113101, that'd be kewl
[03:18] <sam113101> I wonder if my BIOS supports terminals
[03:18] <sam113101> I hope yes
[03:18] <reisio> IzzyD: http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png F6
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: you dont install "nomodeset" you just choose it at the grub option ... edit it with e and append nomodeset then hit f10 as the doc stated
[03:18] <IzzyD> i've tried "try" a few times already and it still takes me to the same thing.
[03:18] <reisio> IzzyD: right, that's for after using nomodeset :)
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: the grub/boot screen looks nothing like that :P
[03:18] <infinitux> hi. i have a dual screen setup but one of them is a tv. is there an app like a pager that will show me what's going on with my other screen so if it's powered off I can move windows from it to my powered screen?
[03:18] <reisio> so you can use IRC before installing
[03:19] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: does it have an F6 option?
[03:19] <infinitux> i'm constantly opening windows on the wrong screen and having to power on the tv to move them
[03:19] <reisio> infinitux: yes, a pager
[03:19] <hitsujiTMO> no just lists the install or try ... just needs to hilight try ubuntu and press e to edit it
[03:19] <infinitux> okay
[03:19] <reisio> infinitux: you could also probably have wmctrl or devilspie dynamically move them
[03:19] <infinitux> thanks.
[03:20] <IzzyD> reisio: i don't get the purple screen because my laptop is uefi.
[03:20] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: well that's what's in ubottu's link :/
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: its quite outdated at this stage :P
[03:20] <reisio> good times
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: a lot of the links really need to get updated
[03:21] <IzzyD> reisio: am i allowed to link to an image in here?
[03:22] <reisio> IzzyD: course
[03:22] <IzzyD> reisio: http://i.imgur.com/4TjxW.jpg this is what install looks like.
[03:22] <limpc> 2girls1cup
[03:22] <reisio> what hitsujiTMO said should work, though, if you get a grub screen
[03:22] <reisio> IzzyD: right, hit 'e' and do what hitsujiTMO said
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> izzy, highlight try and press 'e'
[03:23] <reisio> cameras are so kewl
[03:23] <IzzyD> ok, hopefully i'll be back soon ^^
[03:23] <reisio> yup :)
[03:29] <Crazyzurfer> updated from 13.04 to 13.10 and now my virtualhost's pages are getting error 403, Forbidden :(
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: apache httpd has been updated to 2.4 from 2.2 in 13.10  ... new config method
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: have a read http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/upgrading.html on the changes you need to make to your virtualhosts
[03:32] <reisio> really...
[03:32] <reisio> could be an opportune time to switch to nginx, then :)
[03:32] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: thanks, I'll read it
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: its not an abolutely crazy config, but it confuses the hell of a lot of people ... but do switch to nginx ... much sweeter :P
[03:33] <xiaopi[z]> +1 for nginx ;)
[03:33] <reisio> yeah and if you have to learn a little new config anyways...
[03:33] <reisio> I find nginx's simpler anyways
[03:33] <YellowGTO> Well I wanted to thank you guys
[03:33] <YellowGTO> Got ubuntu fully installed :)
[03:34] <daniel_> Does anyone know what I should do in this case? I did an apt uprgrade and it downloaded the latest version of the moka icon pack but now suddenly it won't work for the unity launcher anymore
[03:34] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: far less to type at least :P ... i just wish it had decent relative path support
[03:34] <hitsujiTMO> daniel_: change themes? or icon packs?
[03:35] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: relative path?
[03:35] <reisio> YellowGTO: gj
[03:35] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: Woorked! :)
[03:35] <daniel_> Hitsujitm0 nooooooooooo moka looks so good
[03:36] <daniel_> is there a chance that unity's been updated so that it can no longer be altered by ubuntu tweak tool
[03:36] <halida_> 0
[03:37] <garcianc> I use the tweak took in 13.10
[03:37] <IzzyD> reisio: i failed >>
[03:37] <daniel_> garcianc I'm on 12.04 and it's worked fine until today
[03:37] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: as in if i could specify a root path (not the www root) for a server such as /home/www/domain ... i could then specify that the www root is www not /home/www/domainname/www  or my ssl key is ssl/ssl.key not /home/www/domain/ssl/ssl.key
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:38] <Crazyzurfer> phpmyadmin now says: The json extension is missing. Please check your PHP configuration. :(
[03:38] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: grr ... ok, how did you create the installer?
[03:38] <reisio> IzzyD: what happened?
[03:38] <ObrienDave> daniel_... more likely is your system is too old to work with a newer version of tweak-tool
[03:38] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: hrmmm, I thought it took arbitrary variables
[03:39] <IzzyD> reisio: hitsujiTMO: this one was my fault, i couldn't remember what to do after hitting e.
[03:39] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: ahhh lol ... append nomodeset to the end
[03:39] <neetz_> hey guys , link for 0AD on ubuntu please ?
[03:40] <IzzyD> reisio: hitsujiTMO: just type that into the command line?
[03:40] <hitsujiTMO> izzyd yup
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> neetz_: whats 0AD?
[03:40] <ObrienDave> neetz_... it's in the getdeb repo
[03:40] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: so it will become: quiet splash nomodeset
[03:41] <joelteon> I'm getting a lot of these during apt-get update: "W: Failed to fetch http://get.docker.io/ubuntu/dists/docker/Release.gpg  Unable to connect to 172.17.42.1:3142:"
[03:41] <reisio> lotuspsychje: http://play0ad.com/
[03:41] <joelteon> is there some significance to that address/port? i've not seen it before
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: could just be a crappy ppa
[03:41] <neetz_> ObrienDave:  In git ?
[03:42] <bloftd> hi
[03:42] <joelteon> where would I change that? i checked /etc/apt/sources.list but it wasn't in there
[03:42] <neetz_> lotuspsychje:  it's a open source game
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> reisio: tnx, wow looking nice
[03:42] <ObrienDave> neetz_... you didn't ask for git link. sorry, don't know where else to get 0ad
[03:42] <reisio> yeah, pretty
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: sources.list.d
[03:43] <IzzyD> reisio: hitsujiTMO: also, not sure if it matters, but i'm using 13.10 64bit
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: does not matter!
[03:43] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: ok, making sure ><
[03:43] <joelteon> hitsujiTMO: not there, either; only get.docker.io is
[03:43] <neetz_> ObrienDave:  have a look at this http://sourceforge.net/projects/zero-ad/files/releases/ but I dont know which file to download , just have a look and tell me what do i download ?
[03:44] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: but isnt that the failed one ... get.docker.io ?
[03:44] <ObrienDave> neetz_... start here http://www.getdeb.net/welcome/
[03:44] <joelteon> hitsujiTMO: right, but why is it connecting to 172....?
[03:45] <joelteon> get.docker.io is certainly up
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> !info 0AD | neetz_
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> neetz_: apt-cache search 0AD
[03:46] <neetz_> ObrienDave:  that thing is blocked by our college server
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: maybe you've a crappy isp t
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: maybe you've a crappy isp that is under dns attack?
[03:46] <Crazyzurfer> solved
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Crazyzurfer
[03:47] <joelteon> meh
[03:47] <Crazyzurfer> ;)
[03:47] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: what does get.docker.io resolv to for you if you ping it?
[03:47] <joelteon> hitsujiTMO: that's not the IP of get.docker.io
[03:47] <joelteon> it's an alias for edge-docker.dotcloud.com which has 54.234.* addresses
[03:47] <neetz_> lotuspsychje:  i ran that command , dint get anything
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> neetz_: sudo apt-get install 0AD
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: but what do you get if you ping get.docker.io?
[03:49] <joelteon> normal ping replies
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: ok, next possibility: do you have a proxy set up in your apt.conf?
[03:51] <joelteon> Acquire::http { Proxy "http://172.17.42.1:3142"; };
[03:51] <neetz_> ubottu:  where but ?
[03:51] <joelteon> oh. what is that supposed to be doing? :/
[03:51] <neetz_> lotuspsychje:  i need a package
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> neetz_: doenst it install?
[03:51] <neetz_> ubottu:  lol ? mitsuku huh ?
[03:51] <hitsujiTMO> joelteon: did you put that there?
[03:52] <ObrienDave> neetz_... here is playdeb deb file. install then look in software center for 0ad   https://www.dropbox.com/s/h6jxgrrefu6nc0s/playdeb_0.3-1%7Egetdeb1_all.deb
[03:52] <neetz_> lotuspsychje:  it installs but i need a package such that i can give it to everyone here
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> neetz_: back it up with aptoncd maybe?
[03:54] <Paulus68_1> What I understood from total drive encryption is that it create a second partition in LVM which is encrypted, so far so good, however what happens if this partition gets "damaged" due to a power failure it's not able to write correctly to the encrypted drive and gets corrupt, is there a way to repair this?
[03:54] <DeusExitium> hey everyone does anyone know how to install java for backtrack 5r3?
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> !backtrack | DeusExitium
[03:54] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: ...
[03:54] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: you in?
[03:54] <neetz_> lotuspsychje:  command please , ubuntu newbie here
[03:54] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: how EXACTLY do i type it in after hitting e?
[03:54] <DeusExitium> thanks ubottu
[03:54] <ObrienDave> Paulus68_1... if the encrypted drive gets corrupted, you're SOL
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> this is why you make backups ;
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> neetz_: maybe get the .deb from ObrienDave suggested you
[03:55] <Paulus68_1> ObrienDave: SOL?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> !aptoncd | neetz_
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> Super Out Of Luck
[03:55] <ObrienDave> SOL Sorry, out of luck
[03:56] <Paulus68_1> Dr_Willis: ok
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: what about if drive is only half broken
[03:56] <ObrienDave> and that's being NICE about it
[03:56] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: errm, tis a long time since i've had 2 do it, give me a sec and ill have a look
[03:57] <reisio> IzzyD: should just have to go the line that starts with 'linux', hit END, add ' nomodeset'
[03:58] <ObrienDave> people, an ENCRYPTED drive is nothing more than ONE giant file. what do you suppose would happen if ANY part of that file was corrupted?
[03:58] <reisio> IzzyD: then do what it says at the bottom of the screen to boot
[03:58] <Paulus68_1> ObrienDave: hmm so if you don't encrypt your drive and you get a bad drive because of power failure you might be lucky in order to retrieve some data, but if you are paranoid and you enccrypted your harddrive you loose by definition all your data
[03:58] <reisio> ObrienDave: that isn't necessarily true ;)
[03:58] <Paulus68_1> ObrienDave: I know it's a big file
[03:58] <neetz_> lotuspsychje:  ok
[03:58] <IzzyD> reisio: that's what i just tried and it still just brought me to a solid black screen.
[03:58] <reisio> IzzyD: horrors
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: can you restore lost data with photorec on an encrypted drive?
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  that would be a neat trick.
[03:59] <ObrienDave> NOT if you lose the key
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: so its impossible to retrieve data with data recovery software?
[04:00] <ObrienDave> since every encrypted drive is mathematically different, if you lose the key, it's history
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> cool
[04:01] <reisio> that's the same with anything, though
[04:01] <reisio> if you lose it it's lost
[04:01] <ObrienDave> data recovery cannot recover data from an encrypted drive without the key
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: tnx
[04:02] <Paulus68_1> ObrienDave: fair enough
[04:02]  * lotuspsychje can sleep in peace again while the fbi knocks on his door
[04:02] <ObrienDave> LOL
[04:03] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: ok, when you hit e a text editor like thing comes one ... on the second last line )starting with "linux" go the the end of that and just after splash append nomodeset
[04:03] <Paulus68_1> lotuspsychje: didn't know you had connection with the fbi
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> :p
[04:03] <ObrienDave> only in passing ;)
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> IzzyD:  i normally tell peopleto  put nomodeset   btween the 'quiet splash' so it becomes  'quiet nomodeset splash'  ;)
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> any reccomended sound recorder package to record a decent audo interview?
[04:04] <IzzyD> reisio: hitsujiTMO: so then, at the end it should say splash append nomodeset?
[04:04] <Guest9774> How to set a firewall?
[04:04] <IzzyD> or just splash nomodeset?
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | Guest9774
[04:05] <hitsujiTMO> not the word append    it should say quiet splash nomodeset
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> Guest9774:  you got one built in ;)
[04:05] <ObrienDave> lotuspsychje... I like audacity
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: ok tnx for hint
[04:06] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: and also, the end of the line says quiet splash -- do i keep the --?
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | IzzyD
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> IzzyD:  put nomodeset btween the quiet and splash.. makes it rather easy to understand...
[04:06] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: keep it if its there.
[04:07] <Dr_Willis>     <start of line> quiet nomodeset splash <rest of line>
[04:07] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: those instructions are actually really out of date
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: ive tryed updating triggers in the past, never had any reaction on it
[04:07] <IzzyD> ok, brb again. hopefully not on windows.
[04:08] <IzzyD> OH!!!!!
[04:08] <IzzyD> secure boot on or off?
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: there's a system to make a suggestion for outdated triggers, never had any luck...
[04:08] <reisio> IzzyD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#SecureBoot
[04:08] <Guest9774> Thanks
[04:08] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: secure boot off, you wont be able to boot the usb with it on.... btw xchat is the default irc app in the live cd
[04:09] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: i'll have to have a look at that. is there a complete list of triggers somewhere? !help doesnt seem to help
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: yes, holdon
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: sweet
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: not sure whats the command to suggest anymore...
[04:10] <ObrienDave> lotuspsychje... for simplicity try https://launchpad.net/audio-recorder
[04:11] <Crazyzurfer> hey.. after upgrading to 13.10 I've been getting a php error that says that I need to enable mcrypt.. ran sudo apt-get install php5-mcrypt and it says that is already installed but when I run php --ri mcrypt, I get "Extension 'mcrypt' not present.", soo ubuntu thinks that it's installed but php thinks it's not?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: i think you had to msg ubottu...foo something
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: nice1 tnx
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  /msg ubottu  Hello sweetheart.....
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: no i mean to suggest a trigger to ubottu, so it come to ubuntu-ops chan
[04:12] <ObrienDave> !42
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[04:12] <doomlord_> what are the highlights in 13.1
[04:12] <doomlord_> what are the highlights in 13.10
[04:12] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: is that for phpmyadmin?
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> doomlord_: the webupd8 and omgubuntu blog sites have summaries
[04:13] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: nope
[04:13] <xangua> !releasenotes | doomlord_
[04:13] <[Relic]> wonder what type of sauce  :)
[04:13] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: it may be installed but you may still have to add it into the php ini
[04:13] <Guest9774> If i encrypt my usb with trucrpt and i put  live image  in it ..so it will be possible to boot
[04:13] <Guest9774> ?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> [Relic]: Opensauce :p
[04:14] <reisio> Guest9774: it'd be involved
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> Guest9774:  i would  be impressed if it was doable
[04:14] <ObrienDave> so would I
[04:14] <reisio> truecrypt is almost a reasonable choice if you need to have an encrypted FS that you can use from random different OSes
[04:14] <reisio> and not really otherwise
[04:14] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: ok.. Do you know what should I add?
[04:14] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: try adding "extension=mcrypt.so" to php.ini
[04:16] <ctcb> Question: I now have Ubuntu installed on my laptop, but I have a few problems: Some of my programs need Right Alt but when pressing Alt it takes me to "Type Your Command"
[04:16] <Paulus68_1> Guest9774: if the iso could Read your password it might be able to do so otherwhise you are out of luck
[04:16] <Crazyzurfer> That exact line is but in /etc/php5/conf.d/mcrypt.ini
[04:17] <Paulus68_1> since an iso is not able to think for itself the answer is NO
[04:17] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb: as in "alt gr" brings up "type your command"?
[04:18] <ObrienDave> why would anyone need to encrypt a free and open source ISO file?
[04:18] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO:  QnQ
[04:18] <hitsujiTMO> ObrienDave: for secure boot?
[04:18] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: not working?
[04:18] <ctcb> hitsujiTMO, both Alt buttons on my keyboard are doing it. DOSBox tells me to press Alt-GR + Enter to go Fullscreen, but it can't because Type your Command appears when I do that.
[04:18] <ObrienDave> LOL not quite the same thing ;)
[04:18] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: nuuu
[04:19] <reisio> ObrienDave: same reason you'd encrypt anything
[04:19] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: still boots to a solid black screen and stops there. :L
[04:19] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb: odd, alt gr should not    what version of ubuntu?
[04:19] <apb> ubuntu 12.04... not getting sound with hulu or youtube, I I do get sound with amarok... earlier today the system insisted I had taken out internal hardware (which I have not) and asked  if I wanted to remove... not alsa, but the other one .... can't think of the name right now...  so I said yes.  How do I get it back?
[04:19] <reisio> apb: pulse
[04:19] <ObrienDave> ummm, there is nothing on the ISO that needs to be hidden. is there?
[04:19] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: you booting from dvd or usb?
[04:19] <Crazyzurfer> hitsujiTMO: Now it works, copied the file I told you and pasted it in /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d/
[04:19] <Crazyzurfer> !yay
[04:19] <apb> reiso: yeah, that's that's it
[04:19] <reisio> ObrienDave: why would he ask otherwise
[04:19] <Guest9774> Paulus68_1 thanks  for  d info
[04:19] <ctcb> hitsujiTMO: Ubuntu 13.10  - AMD64
[04:19] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: usb
[04:20] <apb> reisio: Yeah, that's it
[04:20] <apb> pulse
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> Crazyzurfer: \o/
[04:20] <Paulus68_1> reisio: some people like to protect their data against god knows who
[04:20] <garcianc> instead of encrypt, why not read only?
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> rot13 the iso
[04:20] <reisio> Paulus68_1: think you meant ObrienDave
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb: may be your keyboard sending same signal for alt + alt gr :(
[04:21] <ObrienDave> LMAO there is NOTHING on the live DVD that needs to be encrypted
[04:21] <reisio> you are easily amused :p
[04:21] <ObrienDave> yes, me too
[04:22] <ObrienDave> oh, you meant me PFFFFFT
[04:22] <Paulus68_1> reisio: no I was refering to you :)
[04:22] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: how exactly did you make it?
[04:22] <ObrienDave> *ducks*
[04:22] <reisio> Paulus68_1: I like to protect my data?
[04:22] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: i made the usb using universal usb installer
[04:23] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: a few peeps have had trouble with ones made with that ... try http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: also, what graphics card do you have?
[04:23] <ctcb> hitsujiTMO, I also have a problem with my keyboard where it has switched the " and @ keys around, how do I fix this?
[04:23] <apb> so if I test my hardware sound device... it works... but I get no sound from hulu.com or youtube... hmmm... flash maybe?
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> apb:  sounds like a flash sound issue to me.
[04:24] <apb> Dr_Willis: it was working just fine earlier...   reinstall??
[04:24] <ObrienDave> OK, if you're using the ISO to install a system, exactly what data that is sensitive to you, is actually on the disk? let me guess, NONE
[04:25] <CIDR> When I install ubuntu I just select lbuntu minimal.  Now  I just get a blank desktop at longin...  Nothing at all on it.  Ideas?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> apb:  reinstall = windows mindset.
[04:25] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb: change the keyboard layout   your on us and want uk?    change it in System Settings -> Text Entry
[04:25] <Paulus68_1> reisio: I was refering to this remark same reason you'd encrypt anything
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> apb:  if you reinstall the exact same setup. id expect ehe exact same results.
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> apb:  tried google-chrome yet? it has its own flash built in
[04:25] <reisio> Paulus68_1: ah, it all makes sense now :)
[04:25] <apb> Dr_Willis: can't install chrome... it just won't go.  went round and round on that
[04:26] <hitsujiTMO> cidr, what installation disk is that for(what version)
[04:26] <CIDR> Mini
[04:26] <CIDR> 13.10
[04:26] <CIDR> Dr_Willis: I had to use chrome to use quite a few streaming sites.  Including pac-12 network and esp3.  The version of flash for linux is too outdated to work with them, but chromes worked fine.  Just an FYI
[04:27] <Paulus68_1> reisio: it's still early on my side of the globe :p
[04:27] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: radeon hd 7310
[04:27] <ctcb> hitsujiTMO, I see something about changing sources, but not the current keyboard layout.
[04:28] <apb> Dr_Willis: So what does the non-windows mindset do in the case like this?
[04:28] <apb> s/the/a
[04:28] <ObrienDave> drop back 5 yards and punt ;)
[04:28] <apb> no doubt
[04:28] <CIDR> apb: What's your issue?
[04:28] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: graphics card should be ok, shoulbe be supported by default radeondriver at least   .... try create a new installer with that linuxliveusb tool anyhow ... you may still have to boot with nomodeset
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> apb:  blame adobe for lacking proper linux support.. personally i use google-chrome. no idea on your issues with it
[04:28] <hitsujiTMO> IzzyD: try without first tho
[04:29] <apb> CIDR:  no sound from hulu.com or youtube.com
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> apb:  i also use flash downloader extensions to download youtube videos
[04:29] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: ok, creating it now.
[04:29] <hitsujiTMO> apb: you on ubuntu 32bit?
[04:29] <apb> hitsujiTMO: Yes
[04:29] <CIDR> Have you tried html5 videos?
[04:29] <apb> 12.04
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> apb:  there may be some askubuntu.com hits on flash sound issues also.
[04:29] <apb> this was working earlier today
[04:30] <apb> CIDR: I doubt it.  I simply tried hulu.com and youtube.com ... however amarok works.
[04:30] <hitsujiTMO> apb, there was a bug in the .deb file ... there was an update for 64 bit today but so might be an updated .deb for 32bit too. if not install chrome beta.deb that doesnt have the bug
[04:30] <apb> hitsujiTMO: I downloaded chrome stable... didn't work for me... where do I get the beta?
[04:31] <hitsujiTMO> apb when did you download stable tho? today?
[04:31] <IzzyD> hitsujiTMO: Persistance: Live mode?
[04:31] <ctcb> hitsujiTMO, Now I've changed the layout, Alt Gr no longer triggers it.
[04:31] <apb> hitsujiTMO: few days ago maybe?
[04:31] <hitsujiTMO> izzdy: just leave it at default
[04:32] <hitsujiTMO> apb: i think it was updated today so try again  ...
[04:32] <hitsujiTMO> apb: if not i'll get you the link for the beta
[04:32] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb: sweet!
[04:33] <CIDR> hrmmm bit the bullet and did a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  wonder how long that'll take
[04:33] <thinknow> how can i make transmission the default torrent client again? after i have choosen qbittorrent?
[04:33] <apb> hitsujiTMO: installs!  thanks!  I'll go try the sound issue
[04:35] <hitsujiTMO> apb: np ... good luck with the sound issue
[04:35] <ObrienDave> thinknow... right click on a .torrent select 'open with' select Transmission with 'make default' checked
[04:36] <thinknow> i know about that ObrienDave
[04:36] <thinknow> but it wont show
[04:36] <thinknow> it just show qbit
[04:36] <thinknow> i had that problem on more than one installation
[04:37] <thinknow> other programs dont use to be a problem
[04:37] <ObrienDave> no clue on that one, sorry
[04:37] <CIDR> Couldn't find a good guide for xbmc+ubuntu+intel that wasn't over 1.5 years old and had broken paste bins
[04:37] <CIDR> just going to install xbmc over ubuntu-desktop and see what happens
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> !info xbmc
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> i just install the xbmc package.. and away i go
[04:38] <CIDR> Yeah...
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> hmm   ...   time for sleep
[04:38] <thinknow> i mean, how can i make transmission the default application when i magnet a torrent?
[04:38] <CIDR> I always have to fight with DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD etc..
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> thinknow: you can open 'url' after you copy the magnet link
[04:40] <apb> that fixed it.  Thanks folks!
[04:40] <thinknow> i know
[04:40] <IzzyD> taking forever to create live usb... that's how you know it's working ^^
[04:40] <thinknow> but automatically?
[04:40] <thinknow> so i dont have to do that everytime
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> thinknow: in firefox you can set filetypes to programs aswell
[04:41] <thinknow> because now every time i press the magnet button(that is the only one on piratebay) it opens qbittorrent. And if uninstall it, it cant find any application
[04:42] <reisio> thinknow: talking about a browser?
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> thinknow:  check askubuntu.com yet? i seem to recall seeing this asked there also.
[04:42] <thinknow> ok know i found where i can do it in firefox setings
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> thinknow: browse to transmission-gtk
[04:43] <thinknow> where is it located?
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> thinknow:  use the 'locate' command to find out
[04:43] <thinknow> it isnt in the scrolldown menu
[04:43] <CIDR> should ubuntu-desktop install the right intel drivers?
[04:43] <reisio> find ~/.mozilla -iname 'mimetypes.rdf'
[04:43] <reisio> mv that elsewhere
[04:43] <reisio> restart browser
[04:43] <thinknow> locate and then..
[04:43] <thinknow> i cant locate transmission, dont know which folders to look
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> 'locate transmission'
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> or 'which command-you-want-to-find'
[04:44] <wylde> or which transmission-gtk
[04:44] <CIDR> if you don't have locate try whereis
[04:44] <reisio> or dpkg -L transmission-gtk | grep bin
[04:44] <reisio> but /usr/bin/ is the usual place
[04:45] <CIDR> wtf I install ubuntu-desktop but still boots to lbuntu and nothign on the desktop
[04:45] <CIDR> ideas?
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> CIDR:  select the desktop to use a tthe login screenm
[04:46] <CIDR> Dont' have an otpion.
[04:46] <thinknow> Thanks folks
[04:46] <thinknow> usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[04:46] <thinknow> :)
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> CIDR:  then you dident install it right.. or are not looking in the right place. or need to restart lightdm
[04:47] <CIDR> I restarted lightdm
[04:47] <CIDR> I just have an otpion of a user drop down and a password
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> CIDR:  look for the other menus that exist.. a gear icon perhaps
[04:47] <IzzyD> uggh... internet speed on military bases in okinawa... TERRIBLE!!!!!
[04:48] <CIDR> hmm found it on the top right
[04:48] <CIDR> Select "Ubuntu"  seemed to do the trick
[04:48] <ObrienDave> IzzyD... could be worse, you could be at my house. 2.5Mb
[04:48] <CIDR> Now how do I make sure I have the right intel drivers?
[04:48] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: i'm at 512k right now >>
[04:48] <ObrienDave> ok, that's worse ;)
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> CIDR:  they are installed by default
[04:49] <CIDR> Ok
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> CIDR:  thjees newer versions in ppa's  or at that intel 01.org site
[04:49] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: i'm about to try and tether my phone. it averages at 8.5mb
[04:49] <ObrienDave> which phone?
[04:50] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: sony xperia from AU
[04:50] <ObrienDave> dang, I could help you on a GS4
[04:51] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: i have one of those too >>
[04:51] <ObrienDave> O.o
[04:51] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: it's a us phone though, so i can't use it here in japan.
[04:52] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: i'm a marine and i came to okinawa hoping to use the world connection, but it's like 2.50/min so i had to get a new phone here.
[04:52] <ObrienDave> ouch
[04:53] <ObrienDave> you on sprint?
[04:53] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: i am with my gs4
[04:53] <IzzyD> ObrienDave:  my xperia is on AU
[04:54] <ObrienDave> i heard they were insane on that connection. didn't realize it was that bad. geez louise
[04:54] <IzzyD> ObrienDave: yea. it's pretty terrible.
[04:55] <IzzyD> ObrienDave:  the internet in my barracks is 55Mb that's why i LOVE being in my room xD
[04:56] <ObrienDave> don't blame you there LOL
[04:56] <IzzyD> <--- loves my tf2 ><
[04:57] <Guest76251> quit
[05:00] <IzzyD> LILI WHY YOU SO SLOW???
[05:00] <reisio> IzzyD: ikr
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> the lili usb disk maker tool? why not ask why its so ugly also. ;)
[05:01] <IzzyD> reisio: everything else takes like 10 minutes tops.
[05:01] <IzzyD> Dr_Willis: i think it's kinda pwetty x3
[05:02] <IzzyD> WOOHOO!!!! KEY READY!!!
[05:02] <IzzyD> only took 45 minutes >>
[05:02] <IzzyD> brb
[05:04] <CallingFlunky3> Have a few questions if anyone would like to try to answer them?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[05:04] <reisio> CallingFlunky3: a few more, or including that one? :p
[05:04] <John77> condescending
[05:05] <Quest> how to cat > file.txt  a file that is on a remove server and I can access it by ssh. I want to save that file on local dir
[05:05] <reisio> Quest: don't cross post
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Quest:  easy way would be to scp the file back to the machine you are on
[05:06] <CallingFlunky3> Can a external HDD run ubuntu on a gateway netbook that has windows based guts?
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> CallingFlunky3:  if the pc can boot the hd. should be able to
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> windows based guts =  what do you mean. :) if its nomrmal pc parts.. its  not windows based
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> i boot my EEEpc from external usb/flash/usbhd/sdcard all the time and run ubuntu from them
[05:08] <CallingFlunky3> Well it was win 7, and I'm running on very little sleep lol
[05:08] <niel> guys is there any way I can dupe my partition because I would like to have a second one to mess around with and try out xfce
[05:09] <CallingFlunky3> The old drive crashed and I used ubuntu before
[05:09] <niel> but also have all my stuff
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> niel:  you can install xubuntu desktop on top of your u untu install and just select xubuntu at the login screen
[05:09] <niel> I totally forgot about that
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> that would dupe ubuntu it will never know
[05:10] <IzzyD> reisio: i hate life >>
[05:10] <CallingFlunky3> Had a problem booting up on first try so I'm trying to figure out what if anything I missed
[05:10] <niel> I could just make another parition and copy the files onto it
[05:10] <niel> but that might be sketchy
[05:10] <reisio> IzzyD: :)
[05:10] <IzzyD> reisio: it's still not working...
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> CallingFlunky3, You do a manual install and make sure grub is in the externals mbr?
[05:11] <IzzyD> reisio: and it's the same problem.
[05:11] <crocket> yo
[05:11] <niel> also is there a way to mess around with my grub and rename/move things
[05:11] <niel> my OCD does not like 2 Ubuntus
[05:11] <niel> I also have xubuntu
[05:11] <andry> :'D
[05:12] <CallingFlunky3> Not manual, windows exe based install.
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> CallingFlunky3, wubi?
[05:12] <andry> niel, have a look into /etc/default/grub .. after changes you need to run sudo update-grub2
[05:12] <CIDR> Any idea why I can't select "automatic login" ?
[05:12] <CallingFlunky3> wubi??? meaning?
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> CallingFlunky3, what is a windows exe based install?
[05:13] <reisio> IzzyD: I'd try http://www.sysresccd.org/ with its no kms option, just to make sure it isn't another problem
[05:13] <cfhowlett> wilee-nilee, wubi
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> yes it is
[05:13] <CallingFlunky3> I used the windows installer... I couldn't remember how to do manual instal :/
[05:13] <sasaga> hi good evening, someone could say that when compiling a kernel hello world for me will not let me compile error generates a number who could colaborarme
[05:14] <IzzyD> reisio: this is honestly upsetting me... i can't live without ubuntu...
[05:14] <CallingFlunky3> I've done it before but I lost all my notes
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> CallingFlunky3, its called wubi, and not a really to be used that way, I'm not surprised it wont boot.
[05:14] <niel> andry, sadly all my boot options are not there
[05:14] <reisio> IzzyD: I hear you
[05:15] <CallingFlunky3> :/ crap lol
[05:15] <andry> then the names are in /etc/grub.d, but i cannot remember which file
[05:15] <CallingFlunky3> Alright I'll see if I can search around some more.
[05:15] <CallingFlunky3> Thanks guys
[05:15] <niel> not that either
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> CallingFlunky3, wubi is a file in windows normally, putting it in the external at the least makes it read slower, and who knows what else.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> id reccomend just running ubuntu in vbox.. instead of using wubi...
[05:15] <CallingFlunky3> Oh goody
[05:16] <andry> /boot/grub/grub.cfg then
[05:16] <niel> lol I found the grub code
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> wubi is best avoided like a err... case of ... err.. some icky disease.
[05:16] <CallingFlunky3> How about just making the drive use ubuntu?
[05:16] <andry> you will not have to run update-grub after you edit the grub.cfg
[05:16] <andry> else it overrides it
[05:16] <CallingFlunky3> It doesn't have a OS anymore
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> CallingFlunky3:  then no Wubi for you it seems
[05:16] <niel> andry, # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
[05:17] <niel> I dont think I should
[05:17] <andry> yes
[05:17] <andry> you "can" if you know what you do :D
[05:17] <niel> I will break shit
[05:17] <IzzyD> reisio: oh yay... 2 hours...
[05:17] <niel> its my middle name
[05:17]  * niel backs up silently
[05:18] <reisio> IzzyD: ?
[05:18] <CallingFlunky3> Alright, so what OS or .iso? and should I put the hdd on the pc I'm going to use it with to do the install?
[05:18] <IzzyD> reisio: the download time for the iso
[05:18] <reisio> IzzyD: 2 hours... :/
[05:18] <reisio> oh right you're in a terrible bandwidth land
[05:18] <IzzyD> reisio: nvm... 4 >>
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> if you edit the grub.cfg - it will get overwritten next time you run update-grub
[05:18] <reisio> that's insane
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> CallingFlunky3, To install to the external you would boot a live dvd/usb and do a manual install to it, a flash drive if large enough would be better.
[05:19] <joelteon> isn't there a web interface for searching apt packages
[05:19] <IzzyD> reisio: yea, military internet :P
[05:19] <IzzyD> :L
[05:19] <andry> yes, i told him, but i guess you can add some 40-custom stuff and modify the names too
[05:19] <joelteon> there should be a package called llvm3.3 somewhere.
[05:19] <andry> i never did this with grub2
[05:19] <joelteon> how do I locate packages that aren't in apt?
[05:19] <reisio> IzzyD: maybe you should try, um
[05:19] <niel> andry, I would so break shit lol
[05:19] <CallingFlunky3> Okay I'm working on that usb drive now as wee "speak"
[05:20] <IdleOne> niel: Please keep the language clean
[05:20] <reisio> IzzyD: there are installers you can run directly from Windows
[05:20] <andry> or, niel, https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer
[05:20] <niel> IdleOne, sorry :P
[05:20] <IzzyD> reisio: it's a windows 8 pre install system.
[05:22] <moppy> hi - does empathy have any messenger service plugins? i can't seem to find any
[05:23] <andry> moppy,  "apt-cache search empathy account plugin"
[05:24] <IzzyD> reisio: 1day left >> -dies-
[05:24] <reisio> moppy: it can support them
[05:24] <reisio> IzzyD: which server are you downloading from?
[05:25] <IzzyD> reisio: oh and wubi doesn't work
[05:25] <IzzyD> reisio: sourceforge
[05:25] <moppy> empathy uses libpurple? i can use pidgin plugins for it?
[05:25] <reisio> IzzyD: try this one instead http://is.gd/lefaqu
[05:26] <andry> i dont think you can moppy  :/
[05:26] <reisio> moppy: you can use libpurple
[05:26] <andry> it will just use the lib for some protocols
[05:27] <socialcoder> hello all
[05:27] <reisio> 'lo
[05:28] <socialcoder> I am just off windows 7 and new to ubuntu
[05:28] <reisio> neat
[05:28] <socialcoder> installed xchat-gnome
[05:28] <niel> andry, Changed the order of things around rebooted and well no change
[05:28] <socialcoder> how do I move to another server
[05:28] <reisio> socialcoder: /help server
[05:28] <moppy> i need steam over empathy; will try the pidgin plugin
[05:28] <socialcoder> I want to move to irc.codetalk.io
[05:28] <reisio> socialcoder: or you can do it from the menu / CTRL+s
[05:28] <andry> did you run it as root or did it ask for root pw niel?
[05:28] <IzzyD> reisio: back to just 2 hours ^^
[05:28] <socialcoder> I installed from terminal
[05:28] <socialcoder> using sudo
[05:28] <socialcoder> it asked for password
[05:28] <reisio> socialcoder: actually it might be newserver, not server
[05:29] <moppy> socialcoder, xchat->server menu
[05:29] <reisio> IzzyD: see if that one does better
[05:29] <niel> andry, it asked for my pass and I just opened it everything is the same as when I changed it
[05:29] <moppy> socialcoder, sorry, xchat->network list
[05:29] <socialcoder> honestly, I am not seeing it
[05:29] <socialcoder> there is no menu on top at all
[05:30] <reisio> /newserver irc.codetalk.io
[05:30] <IdleOne> socialcoder: type /server irc.codetalk.io in this window
[05:31] <moppy> grr synaptic does not set itself up in the dash :-(
[05:31] <babinlonston> using ubuntu 12.04 settingup a apache with ssl and facing error  , error.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6298975/
[05:31] <niel> andry, does not seem to work sadly
[05:32] <IzzyD> reisio: that is with the new one >>
[05:32] <andry> niel maybe have a look here u
[05:32] <andry> http://linuxnorth.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/grub2-revisited/
[05:32] <reisio> IzzyD: hrmm?
[05:32] <moppy> ah spoo, i just reinstalled and remembered the chrubuntu kernel doesn't have cifs support . will have to rebuild it . :-(
[05:32] <CallingFlunky3> Alright download about done. So, from the usb drive install ubuntu to the hdd and boot... should work yes?
[05:32] <andry> moppy, doesnt it come as module?
[05:33] <IzzyD> reisio:  the 2 hours is with the server you sent me.
[05:33] <moppy> andry, signed
[05:33] <reisio> IzzyD: k
[05:33] <andry> :(
[05:33] <moppy> as all kernels should be!
[05:34] <reisio> yes, all kernels should have modules available to utilize proprietary protocols most people don't need
[05:34] <andry> hehe well .. it is a nice-to-have running uefi boards
[05:35] <moppy> oh hang on, they seem to have added signed module support in 3.7
[05:35] <reisio> andry: what, cifs?
[05:36] <andry> no, signed kernels for secure boot
[05:36] <moppy> not really proprietary protocol
[05:36] <moppy> you can sign with your own key
[05:37] <reisio> ...was talking about cifs
[05:37] <andry> hm okay, never read THAT much about it
[05:37] <moppy> i dont have uefi
[05:37] <moppy> on this laptop
[05:37] <reisio> lucky you
[05:39] <moppy> ooh yea, libpurple (pidgin) plugins appear to work in empathy
[05:40] <andry> cool :)
[05:41] <digitalw00t> Hi everyone.
[05:42] <moppy> lol, i cant quit empathy from the gui
[05:42] <moppy> this thing is worse than pidgin. why the change?
[05:43] <kepka> ha
[05:43] <kepka> fucking people
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !language | kepka
[05:43] <kepka> okay
[05:44] <kepka> men
[05:44] <kepka> what's happened?
[05:45] <niel> anyone good with xfce know what these black panels are?
[05:45] <zexcriz> what is juju ?
[05:46] <niel> and how I get the open things on the top like xubuntu
[05:46] <niel> and the bottom bar
[05:46] <moppy> niel, right mouse over them, configure what they show
[05:46] <moppy> zexcriz, it's for servers, ignore
[05:46] <zexcriz> moppy, i want to know
[05:47] <moppy> zexcriz, it's some kind of tool for quickly installing and configuring lots of them
[05:47] <moppy> zexcriz, i don't know any more on that
[05:47] <zexcriz> moppy, installing and configuring multiple instances of ubuntu ?
[05:48] <moppy> zexcriz, https://juju.ubuntu.com/
[05:48] <niel> moppy, I actually think i have broken stuff is this caused by me not uninstallign unity and that stuff?
[05:55] <zexcriz> moppy, :)
[06:10] <digitalw00t> So I've got one of the edimax wifi usb adapater, I get an ip address from my dhcp server, default route is there, wiconfig is saying everything is running, but I can't get to anything.  Not my default gw, or any other machines on my network.
[06:15] <`Fibz`> how can i set it up so that i always hear audio from my mic through my speakers without having to pach the capture device to playback through qjackctl manually every time i log in?
[06:18] <yeehi> razer mamba mouse does not appear when i try to pair with bluetooth. Why is this? Bluetooth can pair other devices, which appear...  http://drivers.razersupport.com//index.php?_m=downloads&_a=view&parentcategoryid=76&pcid=0&nav=0
[06:18] <sgo11> hi, for ubuntu gnome 13.10, how to setup the lock screen background by gsettings? or by editing some config files. thanks.
[06:24] <man0riaX> Hello
[06:24] <andrew_76> join /#twitlive
[06:28] <arrow_> καλημερα
[06:34] <hillary> am unable to use libreoffice base to create database ubuntu 12.04
[06:35] <hillary> it displays error
[06:36] <hillary> "the connection to the data source could not be established'
[06:36] <Archyme> if the data source local?
[06:36] <Archyme> is*
[06:37] <hillary> yes
[06:37] <nnyk_> Hi, please where does apt keep .deb files that for packages ive installed?
[06:38] <hillary> the diver class org.hsqldb.jdbcDriver could not be loaded
[06:39] <PillowTalk> Hello
[06:39] <Archyme> nnyk_, it should be /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:39] <Jamer> Pi:PillowTalk:
[06:39] <nnyk_> Archyme: yes it is, thanks!
[06:41] <hillary> anybody with an idea?
[06:42] <Archyme> hillary, from what i can google, it looks like you need to install hsqldb. take my advice at your own risk :D
[06:43] <PillowTalk> i am getting ready to install ubuntu x64 and just wanted to ask a quick question please, what speed does your hdd have to be please
[06:44] <Archyme> PillowTalk, im sure that as long as you meet all other system requirements, you will be fine!
[06:44] <PillowTalk> archyme than you i was just checking :-)
[06:45] <Cestus> My HDD is a Western Digital "green", not fast by any stretch.  Ubuntu x64 runs great
[06:45] <muhammad> how r u
[06:46] <PillowTalk> out of those two drives what one would be better please.   http://imageshack.us/f/36/ehls.png/         http://imageshack.us/a/img36/6925/sewx.png
[06:47] <PillowTalk> one has 8mb cache other has 16mbcache
[06:47] <Cestus> The AAJS seems better in every way...  :)
[06:49] <PillowTalk> cestus aajs has 8mb cache and that will be enough ? i really do appreciate help
[06:50] <babinlonston> i want to add this to my repository in ubuntu 12.04 is it possible ?  http://artica.es/debian/squeeze/
[06:50] <sgo11> gdm is crazy. where can I find out gdm config files? just want to replace its background. thanks.
[06:51] <k1l_> babinlonston: you want a debian source into your ubuntu?
[06:51] <Cestus> PillowTalk:  I think so.  Honestly, the difference in cache size between the two drives is small
[06:51] <k1l_> sgo11: sure it gdm? ubuntu uses lightdm as default
[06:51] <Cestus> PillowTalk:  Besides, the filesystem has its own cache and flushes stuff out to disk in bulk afaik
[06:52] <sgo11> k1l_, it's gdm. I installed ubuntu-gnome 13.10.
[06:52] <`Fibz`> babinlonston, try running that generate_repo.sh command
[06:52] <PillowTalk> Thank you very much cestus i will use taht drive to install ubuntu
[06:52] <Cestus> np - have fun!
[06:52] <robertzaccour> I found out I have inferior graphics for Linux. My graphics card is an AMD Radeon 7640G. Is there a way to install the Windows driver for it?
[06:53] <hillary> Thanks so much. I have install it and it has worked well
[06:54] <Archyme> hillary, your welcome!
[06:55] <babinlonston> k1l_: yes
[06:55] <babinlonston> ok
[06:56] <Ben64> robertzaccour: no...
[06:57] <robertzaccour> Ben64: How are you sure? I thought Windows drivers could be installed.
[06:57] <XATRIX> Hi guys, can you advice me a MySQL GUI client ? Like Navicat MySQL, but maybe there's free one ?
[06:58] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  Can't use Windows drivers directly, but AMD does have the Catalyst drivers for Linux.  Latest is 13.9 I think
[06:58] <brontosaurusrex> XATRIX, phpmyadmin ?
[06:58] <XATRIX> No no no.. It's a server-side
[06:58] <XATRIX> I need some GUI to connect to my server from my laptop
[06:58] <robertzaccour> Cestus: Would it work with my gpu?
[06:58] <k1l_> robertzaccour: Cestus no, dont download it from the amd site. use the driver that ubuntu ships for you first
[06:59] <k1l_> !fglrx | robertzaccour
[06:59] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  Ah, I see, it's an APU.  A8 I'm guessing...
[06:59] <robertzaccour> k1l_: I booted Kubuntu live session earlier and some of the effects didn't work, which tells me it has inferior default drivers.
[07:01] <robertzaccour> Cestus: So I should be able to install it just fine?
[07:01] <chris111> how do I find out what my access level is in ubuntu?
[07:02] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  This page has some more info:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/207733/why-does-my-laptop-with-amd-radeon-hd-76xx-graphics-get-overheated-when-using-ub
[07:03] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  Here is the driver straight from AMD:  http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux%20x86_64
[07:03] <Cestus> I have an A10 in my desktop, and I used the driver from AMD without issue.  I couldn't get the version from ubuntu (the "use proprietary drivers" thing) to work right
[07:07] <robertzaccour> Cestus: thanks. Is this the one here? http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/737-28041SupportforATIMobility.aspx
[07:08] <robertzaccour> Cestus: I didn't see mine in the search list, so I selected other then Linux 64 bit
[07:09] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  Weird, that's the links for Windows drivers.  stupid AMD web site, lol
[07:09] <robertzaccour> Cestus: Yeah, the search criteria had 7xxxm but not 7xxxg
[07:10] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  I'm pretty sure the 7640G is a built-in chip that's part of the AMD A8 processor.  They call it an "APU"
[07:10] <XATRIX> brontosaurusrex: http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4279604
[07:11] <brontosaurusrex> XATRIX, my cirilica is pretty crappy and my rusian non-existant, whats the point?
[07:11] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  From here you can pick the "APU" category, then desktop (or mobile), then A-series, then Linux_x86_64
[07:12] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  http://support.amd.com/en-us/download
[07:12] <XATRIX> brontosaurusrex: You don't have to :) I found a good GUI for MySQL, and it's free
[07:13] <brontosaurusrex> XATRIX, cool
[07:13] <XATRIX> sure ;)
[07:13] <digitalw00t> Is it just me.. or is networkmanager the most fragile service in linux?
[07:14] <digitalw00t> You so much as touch anything.. and it stops working
[07:14] <brontosaurusrex> btw, it is possible to use phpmyadmin to connect to remote databases as well apparently, never tested that thought
[07:14] <Cestus> digitalw00t:  Workaround is to just not touch anything.  :P
[07:14] <robertzaccour> Cestus: Got it thanks. Only issue now is I click the link and it just reloads the page.
[07:14] <robertzaccour> Cestus: I'll try when I boot into Kubuntu live session after work.
[07:14] <digitalw00t> Cestus:  hehe.. yeah.  Not really an option.
[07:15] <Cestus> robertzaccour:  Cool, good luck!
[07:15] <digitalw00t> Cestus: Trying to update my linux skills.  Never used it as a desktop before, always a server.
[07:15] <robertzaccour> thanks Cestus
[07:15] <digitalw00t> Cestus:  And as such, I normally turn off the networkmanager and configure everything myself.
[07:16] <Cestus> digitalw00t:  I'm by no means an expert.  Especially networking.  DHCP runs, I get my IP from my router, and I'm happy.  lol
[07:17] <Cestus> digitalw00t:  I've done network configuration on Arch, but so far I've been lucky on Ubuntu.  Most everything just works (TM)
[07:18] <digitalw00t> Cestus:  Yeah.. I'm an rpm based guy myself most of the time, but mint/ubuntu/angstrom are forcing me out of my "comfort zone"
[07:20] <Cestus> digitalw00t:  The world's move to mobile consumption-only devices is getting me out of my comfort zone.  I'm clinging to my desktop forever.  :)
[07:20] <k1l_> digitalw00t: if you configure the network in the interfaces the networkmanager stops managing that device
[07:22] <chris111> another quick question, is there any easy way to compile a MSVS c++ project for linux?
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> Cestus, As the spiritual sages say "you can't take it with you".
[07:23] <Cestus> wilee-nilee:  hehe yeah.  Gonna have to switch to wireless in the underworld.  :P
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[07:24] <Cestus> chris111:  Depends - does the project use Windows-specific libraries?  Win32 / MFC / WinRT / etc.
[07:26] <Cestus> chris111:  Oh - unless you mean writing a Linux app using MSVS on Windows...
[07:28] <Cestus> omg - hahah been so bosy coding tonight, I totally missed that it's 12:30AM.  wow, need some sleep
[07:29] <Cestus> busy*  gn guys
[07:31] <MrQuist> Hey Guys,
[07:31] <MrQuist> i just ran Gource
[07:31] <MrQuist> and i think it messed something up
[07:31] <MrQuist> My displays are mirrored
[07:31] <MrQuist> When i go into display settings, the "mirror" isn't checked
[07:32] <MrQuist> when i press "apply", i get this error message: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface `org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.XRANDR_2' on object at path /org/gnome/SettingsDaemon/XRANDR
[07:32] <MrQuist> The title is "Failed to apply configuration: %s"
[07:32] <MrQuist> i ave already reset my pc
[07:32] <MrQuist> laptop*
[07:33] <`Fibz`> install AR&R (if its not) and use that?
[07:34] <MrQuist> Australian Rainfall and Runoff?
[07:35] <`Fibz`> its ubuntu's Advanced Resize and Rotate app (its for messing with screen settings)
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> !randr
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> !xrandr
[07:35] <MrQuist> cool thanks, will try
[07:35] <`Fibz`> did not know that
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> hmm. old factoid
[07:37] <MrQuist> oh my god this is weird
[07:37] <MrQuist> but so cool at the same time
[07:38] <MrQuist> i have 40% of my IRC window on my external monitor
[07:38] <MrQuist> and 100% on my laptop
[07:39] <MrQuist> holy cow
[07:39] <MrQuist> its fixed
[07:39] <MrQuist> Why does ubuntu work so good but does the gui make it look like crap?
[07:39] <MrQuist> thanks `Fibz` & Dr_Willis
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> i rarely have dual monitor issues with my nvidia based desktop
[07:41] <k1l_> no issues for me on nvidia or intel, too
[07:41] <`Fibz`> im just one of the lucky ones i guess
[07:41] <MrQuist> intel i7, on a lenovo thinkpad (T530)
[07:41] <MrQuist> i had issues with my sound card
[07:42] <MrQuist> no 3D / texture support (or something like that)
[07:42] <MrQuist> external mini-displayport not working
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> no 3d on the soune card? ;)
[07:42] <MrQuist> hahah
[07:42] <MrQuist> no i mean with the GPU
[07:42] <MrQuist> the sound card was a problem apart from that
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> theres a thinkpad forum i belive on the ubuntu forums. Ive never owned a thinkpad.
[07:43] <MrQuist> (no sound, unless i plug in headphones, then there's sound.. from the laptop....
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> I tend to stick to cheap netbooks
[07:43] <MrQuist> they are great machines, really
[07:43] <MrQuist> they even bring m pre-installed with ubuntu :)
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> hard for me to justify more then $300 for a new laptop these days - all i do is IRC and watch videos on them
[07:43] <MrQuist> 8GB Ram, i run ~7 virtual machines with ease
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> and even that  - i do on my tablet more and more.
[07:44] <MrQuist> yeah then you wont need a beast of a machine
[07:44] <MrQuist> i'm a developer of highend webapplications
[07:44] <MrQuist> i need a beast
[07:44] <MindSpark> lol
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> i would like a netbook with a higher res screen. some apps just dont like the  low res display
[07:44] <MindSpark> MrQuist: get yourself the biggest instance on AWS
[07:45] <MindSpark> EC2
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> I had a beast of a Laptop weighed like 18 lbs with the charger.. ;) 19 in dispplay. 2 hd's .. sold it to my brother. I couldent stand to carry it back an dforth
[07:48] <AtuM> Dr_Willis, same here.. sold it and got a lightweight alternative with a 15" screen.. I just couldn't stand the weight and comments like "oh, here comes the mobile cinema"
[07:49] <MrQuist> we host ourselves MindSpark
[07:49] <bittyx-work> Hiya. When editing my ~/.bashrc, what's the difference between doing "PS1='foo'" and "export PS1='foo'"?
[07:49] <MrQuist> but i mean to develop you need quite some development VM's to be running
[07:49] <MrQuist> I believe "export" doesn't get saves, bittyx-work
[07:49] <MindSpark> MrQuist: to develop? or to deploy?
[07:49] <MrQuist> develop ofcourse
[07:49] <MindSpark> you don't develop in modules?
[07:49] <MrQuist> we have dedicated machines to deploy
[07:50] <MindSpark> I mean how big can a module be?
[07:50] <MindSpark> unless you're doing lots of compilation work of course
[07:50] <MrQuist> what do you mean with "module" ?
[07:50] <MindSpark> Well, if you're basically working on a module by module basis. You would only need to do unit testing in a way
[07:50] <MindSpark> or unit development per se
[07:51] <MindSpark> you wouldn't need a system that would run the entire platform
[07:51] <CIDR> Can I remove pulseaudio and just use alsa?
[07:51] <MrQuist> no not everything
[07:51] <bittyx-work> MrQuist: Not sure I understand what you mean? If I do "export", it gets saved automatically? Ie. I don't really need to put it in .bashrc then?
[07:51] <MindSpark> but then again, are you developing using huge db's for example? Because this is not the approach I take
[07:52] <MrQuist> MindSpark, we have an API, a frontend, a small developement DB, a dedicated machine with a development database, 4 dedicated machines for testing, QA,
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> CIDR:  anytime ive seen someone try to remove pulse audio to 'fix' things they seem to come back a day later after doing a clean  install. ;) so i dont advise it
[07:54] <MindSpark> you see, for the frontend you just need bandwidth. Now for the API, depending on how complex it is and what algorithms and mechanisms it implements, you may need a bigger machine. But still, for development, you're never really utitlising the entire system at once like in a live one, are you?
[07:54] <CIDR> Dr_Willis: heh
[07:54] <CIDR> I can't bitstream with it...
[07:54] <CIDR> only allows 2 channel audio voer hdmi
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> not even sure what bitstream means. :) but my tv is stero only.  So cant really advise.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> you can set specific video players to use alsa and not pulse.
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> vlc audio settings -> output module -> select alsa
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> then close/restart vlc
[07:56] <MrQuist> Dr_Willis, yes, we do
[07:57] <MrQuist> but indeed, when you boot up the development environment, the first few calls to frontend still take about 5 seconds
[07:58] <CIDR> Doesn't work for xbmc
[07:58] <Calinou> I'm updating to xubuntu 13.10, but ppa-purge didn't remove my ppa-provided nvidia driver
[07:58] <Calinou> will I have problems?
[07:58] <MrQuist> bittyx-work, what i mean is that i _believe_ "export" temporarily writes to the memory - the setting is gone once you reboot / log in again
[07:58] <MrQuist> when editing the file its saved on disk, so remembered
[07:58] <Calinou> if I do what can I do to prevent them?
[08:01] <MindSpark> as far as I know Pulseaudio runs over alsa
[08:01] <Calinou> it does
[08:01] <MindSpark> so it should be possible to skip PA and just use Alsa, but you'd probably miss out on some features
[08:02] <MindSpark> is OSS still used in anyway?
[08:02] <MindSpark> it's been some time since I used Linux as a PC
[08:02] <CIDR> I have no way to force xbmc to use alsa
[08:02] <CIDR> lame
[08:02] <MindSpark> CIDR: check out jackaudio
[08:03] <MindSpark> CIDR: you shouldn't need to "force" it anyway, should run by default IMO
[08:03] <Calinou> OSS isn't really used these days
[08:03] <Calinou> debian uses alsa, fedora/ubuntu/mint use pulseaudio
[08:05] <CIDR> Issues is if I uninstall pulse audio works great in xbmc
[08:06] <CIDR> passthrough works, bitstreaming works etc...
[08:06] <CIDR> but then I have no audio at all in ubuntu like flash videos etc...  Is there a way to get ubuntu to work with only alsa?
[08:10] <MindSpark> CIDR: did you run alsamixer?
[08:10] <MindSpark> you might need to configure xorg or X11 or whatever it is called these days
[08:11] <CIDR> MindSpark: alsamixer doesn't have anything muted
[08:11] <CIDR> Not sure how I tell X to use alsa?
[08:11] <MindSpark> CIDR: which version are you on?
[08:11] <CIDR> saucy
[08:12] <MindSpark> CIDR: did you read the last paragraph on here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[08:13] <CIDR> MindSpark: problem is it needs diredct hardware access so that doesn't work
[08:13] <MindSpark> what needs direct hardware access?
[08:13] <CIDR> xbmc
[08:15] <andriijas> when i do do-release-upgrade it crashes after a while:  https://gist.github.com/andriijas/7143853    any ideas?
[08:18] <CIDR> If I remove pulse I have no audio devices in ubuntu
[08:18] <CIDR> This is so obnoxious
[08:18] <ronin> does anyone know what I need to play .mp4 in VLC. it says i'm missing a plugin.
[08:18] <ronin> in clementine I mean
[08:18] <ronin> vlc works
[08:19] <ronin> gstreamer is missing a plugin i get
[08:30] <bazhang> ronin, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:31] <CIDR> Well wtf.  Can't figure out how to get normal stuff in ubuntu to work with alsa now
[08:32] <ezra-s> CIDR, you have to specify default output device in audio settings
[08:32] <CIDR> I can't, when I remove pulse there are 0 audio devices in audio settings...  they're in xbmc, and work fine, but not in options
[08:32] <CIDR> Only way this worked before was using lubuntu because it doesn't use pulse...
[08:33] <ronin> no, argh I misclicked and refused to eula
[08:33] <ronin> not even --purge remove + install asks it again
[08:34] <Xethron> hahaha
[08:34] <Xethron> unlucky
[08:35] <Ben64> CIDR: how did you uninstall pulseaudio
[08:35] <CIDR> I attempted to just disable it from loading
[08:35] <CIDR> I also did an apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio
[08:36] <Ben64> yep, that breaks audio
[08:36] <AdityaRaj> hey guys, i have dell vostro laptop and it has inbuilt finger print scanner. i am trying to set it up for login etc. can anyone help me with this please?
[08:36] <CIDR> Hang on
[08:36] <CIDR> I also installed alsamixer, etc...
[08:36] <Ben64> doesn't matter, you broke it
[08:36] <CIDR> I've also tried disabling pulseaudio but the results were the same
[08:37] <ezra-s> CIDR, silly question but, have you rebooted after all the remove/install mess?
[08:37] <CIDR> Yes
[08:37] <CIDR> over and over
[08:37] <ezra-s> hehe
[08:37] <Ben64> i don't know where everybody sees something to purge pulseaudio, but that breaks audio about 100% of the time
[08:38] <CIDR> I'm over it now.  Gave up, install lubuntu which doesn't use pulse
[08:38] <ezra-s> CIDR, if it is a default package you removed chances are you can get it all again by apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or some general task package like that one
[08:38] <CIDR> I have no desire to get it again.
[08:38] <CIDR> It jacks up my audio passthrough
[08:38] <Ben64> ezra-s: from what i remember, that doesn't fix the purging
[08:38] <ezra-s> best thing is to try to understand what happened
[08:39] <Ben64> its much easier to remove pulseaudio by doing "sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio"
[08:39] <CIDR> What happens is pulse doesn't work with hd passthrough
[08:39] <Ben64> its what i did, everything works fine for me with alsa
[08:39] <ezra-s> Ben64, packages should bring their own configuration files, that's like saying installing anew would not fix it
[08:39] <CIDR> That was what I did first...
[08:39] <CIDR> I've done about 30 things.
[08:39] <CIDR> apt-get remove pulseaudio, then reboot
[08:39] <CIDR> nothing in ubuntu worked, but xbmc worked fine with the proper audio device selected
[08:39] <ezra-s> CIDR, you don't use pulse for passthrough and use alsa directly from xbmc
[08:40] <CIDR> I'd love to, but I can't...
[08:40] <ezra-s> CIDR it is apt-get purge pulseaudio to remove cfg files
[08:40] <CIDR> if pulse is installed XBMC no longer has the proper passthrough device.
[08:40] <ezra-s> CIDR, xbmc sometimes require you to specify the device in a very manual way for passthrough, I suffered through it too
[08:41] <CIDR> I can find no manual way...
[08:41] <CIDR> Other than in settings,system,audio, audio output asks for an passthrough device.
[08:41] <CIDR> The selections go away when pulse is installed
[08:41] <ezra-s> for instance
[08:41] <ezra-s> I had to manually set it like "iec958:CARD=SB,DEV=0"
[08:41] <ezra-s> otherwise it would not work
[08:41] <CIDR> back in the day they allowed you to do that
[08:42] <CIDR> in 11.x
[08:42] <CIDR> in 12.x that option no longer even exsists
[08:42] <ezra-s> CIDR, ohh
[08:42] <ezra-s> CIDR, and by hand in the config file? http://apaste.info/hgdi
[08:43] <CIDR> It's no longer the same...
[08:43] <CIDR> I wish it was.
[08:43] <ezra-s> CIDR there must be a way to tell xbmc to use ALSA
[08:43] <ezra-s> I don't have my xbmc here
[08:43] <ezra-s> so I can't check
[08:44] <no_gravity> Hello! It seems Ubuntu on one of my servers updated itself last night. I didnt know it has some automatic updates. How do I find out if and why it updated?
[08:44] <CIDR> There is, remove pulse audio...
[08:44] <ezra-s> CIDR, no, I mean manually
[08:44] <CIDR> I know what you mean, but I can't find the settings anywhere
[08:44] <ezra-s> it makes not much sense that you can't choose what you use for sound output
[08:44] <CIDR> just countless threads of people having the same issues as me
[08:45] <CIDR> agreed, but it seems to be an issue with the new audio engine that's in 12.x
[08:45] <ezra-s> CIDR, do you use that box mainly as xbmc player?
[08:45] <CIDR> 60-70% of the timem.
[08:45] <CIDR> But I also stream pac-12 games etc... via chrome.
[08:45] <ezra-s> CIDR, you could use xbmcbuntu :P
[08:45] <ezra-s> it is based in 12.04 If I recall correctly
[08:46] <ezra-s> ideal for steam, and all works out of the box
[08:46] <ezra-s> even in hybrid mobo pcs like zotac (my case) I didn't even have to worry about overscan and things like that
[08:46] <CIDR> hrmmm
[08:50] <boviba> can i update wubi installed 12.04 to 13.10?
[08:51] <Zorky> The gzip command  run like this gzip -r <foldername> only zips the files inside the folder. but i want the folder zipped with everything in it.
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> boviba:  wubi is basically a dead project. I would get away from it as soon as possible
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: tar -cvf filename.tar.gz directory_to_compress
[08:55] <zexcriz> what is JabberServer used for ?
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> zexcriz: chatting
[08:56] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  Thanks :)
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> i just use my raspberry pi for a xmbc box CIDR  ;) but im cheap.
[09:05] <CIDR> Yeah.
[09:05] <CIDR> I have a decent box for it.
[09:05] <jack> Dr_Willis, good choice
[09:05] <CIDR> Since I like the high quality audio/video.
[09:06]  * Dr_Willis has high quality gilligans island videos..
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[09:06] <CIDR> Heh
[09:06] <CIDR> https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/61760_10151504067554414_1360911688_n.jpg
[09:07] <jack> was it hard to assemble/solder the raspberry pi?
[09:07] <CIDR> I like my DTS-HD/1080p etc...
[09:07] <zexcriz> ActionParsnip, ok
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> jack:  no soldering needed.
[09:07] <jack> cool
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> jack:  theres addon board kits you can buy you assemble. but  dont use those
[09:08] <CIDR> Although the raspi stuff has came a long way.  you can do 1080p h.264
[09:08] <CIDR> and it's like 35 bucks, so it's really hard to beat
[09:08] <jack> indeed
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> Plex server on your ubuntu box. and plex-pi on the pi = Instant streaming client on your tv. ;)
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> but i got the plex channel on my smart-tv's ;) so i use the pi to run xbmc to stream to them
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> I can get 'I Dream of Jeannie' on every tv in the house.
[09:09] <l01> How do I launch abiword on the gfahpical shell (Ctrl+Alt+F7) while I'm being on a virtual console? I get error message "Could not open X display"
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> l01:  export your DISPLAY variable first
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> would be a common value
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: android usb stciks, does a bit more for not much more green :)
[09:12] <l01> Dr_Willis: Tried it, doesn't open abiword, I get the same message
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> I got an android desktop thing that does android or its own xbmc disrto.  but the thing runs a lot hott-er  then my pie
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> CIDR: plus Netflix ability :)
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> l01:  on the X display see what the  echo $DISPLAY says
[09:12] <juan__> Hello. Somebody can read me, please?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> juan__: wassup?
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  Ive had some that dont want to run netflix android app sadly. :0 but they did do Crunchyroll.com fine. ;)
[09:13] <juan__> OK
[09:13] <juan__> Thanks ActionParsnip
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> xbmc and plex client for android also make them flexiable devices.
[09:13] <sujx> How to manually switch the  ubuntu theme?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: exactly :)
[09:14] <l01> It says ":1.0" (without quotes) so I did on virtual console: export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:1.0 and started abiword, still does not work, get the same message
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> sujx: of the whole desktop you mean?
[09:14] <sujx>  or how to manually run ubuntu theme
[09:14] <sujx> en whole desktop
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  ive also seen a lot of weirdness with those android-box's ;)  some apps really get confused by them.
[09:14] <Ben64> l01: why 127.0.0.1
[09:14] <juan__> I have a problem with update sistem in Ubuntu 12.04 and ASUS Eee X101CH. I can't update because the system don't find the medibuntu package
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> sujx: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue   and which desktop are you using?
[09:14] <jack> l01, try :1.0
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> juan__: medibuntu is gone
[09:15] <juan__> OK
[09:15] <l01> yeah without 127.0.0.1 it worked
[09:15] <juan__> And the solution?
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> juan__:  disable medibuntu. its dead jim
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> ive not seen a need for medibuntu in ages
[09:15] <l01> thanks very much Dr_Willis and Ben64 and jack =D
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> l01:  thats odd.. since 127.0.0.1 is your local ip.
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> juan__: remove the repo, you can use software centre, or delete the medibuntu file/s in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[09:15] <jack> np,you're welcome
[09:16] <juan__> One moment. I am looking for software centre
[09:16] <sujx> ubuntu 12.04
[09:17] <sujx> lightdm
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> sujx: no...gnome? XFCE? KDE? LXDE?
[09:18] <jack> sounds very light
[09:18] <sujx> gnome
[09:19] <juan__> I cant to delete medibuntu.list
[09:19] <juan__> Why?
[09:19] <diverdude> Hello, if i create a user called asdf, how can i autogenerate a password and send it by mail? Or what is the normal procedure to create users?
[09:19] <jack> why lightdm sujx ?
[09:19] <jack> try metacity
[09:21] <juan__> I am not very expert in delete files from some places in Ubuntu. I wish to delete medibuntu.list in etc/apt/sources.list.d Can you help me, please?
[09:21] <sujx> My software, started before the login screen in ubuntu, if I do not manually open the Themes service, software interface will become very ugly
[09:21] <Ben64> juan__: don't just delete it manually, purge the ppa
[09:22] <Ben64> !ppa-purge | juan__
[09:22] <juan__> I dont know how to purge
[09:22] <Zorky> how do i tar a folder without retaining the dir setup. i want to tar a folder in /users/username/desktop but when i do tar -zcvf folder.tar.gz /user/username/desktop/foldername  i get this in the tar.gz file. /user/username/desktop/foldername. how do i ONLY tar the folder foldername
[09:22] <Ben64> read that
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> jack:  lightdm is a login manager.. metacity is a window manager.
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> sujx:  you need to start up the gnome services for the apps to get the right theme settings
[09:24] <juan__> I was reading http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html, but I dont know the complete name of medibuntu
[09:25] <juan__> PPA
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> look in your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ files
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> it shoul dhave a file in there for it
[09:25] <jack> Dr_Willis, oops? i could have sworn lightdm is a wm too
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> jack:   *dm = display managers.. your Login Managers.  xdm, kdm, gdm, lightdm,  and others.
[09:26] <jack> ok
[09:26] <juan__> Thanks guys. I dont solve my problem. See you.
[09:26] <worm> lightdm is the default login manager in Ubuntu, and I thought you confused lightdm with unity, the default DE of ubuntu
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> flvwm, jwm, olvwm = window managers. ;) then the new ones dont use the wm in the names.
[09:27] <sujx> i want start up my apps before gnome services.so i need to manually open the themes service
[09:27] <leonid> Zorky: tar -C /user/username/desktop  -zcvf folder.tar.gz foldername
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> sujx:  why do you want to start them up befor that?
[09:28] <Boddhii> excuse me
[09:28] <junir> hello everyone, is there a free alternative to non-ö IM clients?
[09:28] <junir> sorry :) non-free IM clients*
[09:29] <junir> I mean one which connects to webcam
[09:29] <ikonia> junir: such as ?
[09:29] <k1l_> junir: what about empathy and pidgin?
[09:29] <ikonia> junir: which non-free clients do you wish to replace with web-cam enabled open-source versions
[09:29] <andybrine> Hey everyone
[09:30] <junir> k1l_ can I connect to webcam with empathy?
[09:30] <k1l_> junir: and are you talking about clients or protocols?
[09:30] <junir> ikonia, skype, for example
[09:30] <ikonia> junir: "no" is the answer to that specific client
[09:30] <Boddhii> i have ubuntu 12.04 on and I stupidly installed false graphic driver on my os, and it nuked the unity desktop.how to revert it?
[09:30] <Boddhii> my desktop always blink and the panel goes to bottom
[09:30] <andybrine> I have just updated to 13.10 and have a black background that im unable to change. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[09:30] <k1l_> junir: the question is if the non-free protocol allowes other clients. which is "no" for skype
[09:30] <junir> k1l_ I mean a free one which I can chat and see the person at the same time
[09:31] <junir> ikonia, k1l_  I'd like to use a free program that can chat with and view the other person
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> andybrine:  see if the issue affects a newly made user
[09:31] <ikonia> junir: you need to be specific
[09:31] <k1l_> junir: and you still need a chat protocol for that, too
[09:32] <andybrine> Ok, thanks Dr_Willis. Ill try that
 s boss !  it`s not my mean
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> sujx:  what?
[09:32] <k1l_> junir: you could use empathy with the google talk protocol to do video chats
[09:33] <roland_> hi i have a usb drive that is no longer mounting of displaying in any way. what is the first thing to do to see if it can be detected at all
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> roland_:  sudo blkid, and see if you can mount it by hand
[09:33] <k1l_> junir: well, you only need the jabber protocol and the jungle extension
[09:34] <junir> ikonia, k1l_ I understand. I am asking not for a free client where I can use non-free IM. I mean a software that is just free
[09:34] <junir> k1l_ I have jabber, but I wasn't sure if I can connect to camera with it. is it possible?
[09:34] <k1l_> junir: see the jingle extension, yes
[09:35] <diverdude> Hello, if i create a user called asdf, how can i autogenerate a password and send it by mail? Or what is the normal procedure to create users?
[09:35] <daixtr> can anacron work, even without cron?
[09:35] <roland_> Dr_Willis: that returns an sda1,sda2 and sda3. both with the drive pluged in and not
[09:35] <junir> k1l_ oh, great, I'll try right away, thank you very much k1l_ and ikonia!
[09:35] <daixtr> diverdude: use `pwgen`
[09:35] <k1l_> junir: (i think in ubuntu its already installed by default
[09:35] <roland_> Dr_Willis: so am i all out of luck
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> roland_:  check dmesg output a few moments after you plug it in also. sonds like it may be dead jim.
[09:36] <junir> k1l_ I had installed jabber, as a program named psi+ , is it correct that way?
[09:36] <k1l_> junir: no you are confusing protocol, server and clients
[09:37] <junir> k1l_  oh
[09:37] <k1l_> junir: you need a client (empathy) a protocol (xmmp/jabber) and then a server (like a jabber server from google etc)
[09:38] <k1l_> !jabber | junir
[09:39] <junir> k1l_ thank you for your information! I think I'll need to do some learning here.
[09:40] <diverdude> daixtr, ok...and once i generated the password with pwgen, how does the user get it?
[09:40] <daixtr> echo 'new_password123' | mail -s "$(hostname) new password alert" user@email.com
[09:41] <roland_> Dr_Willis:  this is all i get, i cant get it to say connected.: usb 1-1.2: USB disconnect, device number 7
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> roland_:  sounds like it may be dead.
[09:42] <roland_> Dr_Willis:  damn, thanks anyway
[09:42] <linu> hi i just trying to compile a sample qt apps in ubuntu 12.04 for arm arch using yocto toolchain , it shows that http://pastebin.com/Frcg4PR9 can you tell me what is that issues
[09:43] <ikonia> linu: if you are compiling for arm, why are you using the x86_64 sdk ?
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> roland_:  shake it real hard.. and blow on it.. oh wait.. thats for Nintendo Cartridges
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> lO
[09:43] <halt> Hi all, I try to enable the server-status page on apache, and the daufault module in ubuntu already have config related to it, so i think it shoiuld be just a2enmod status, but it does not seams to work, can someone give me a hint how is this implemented in ubuntu ?
[09:44] <sgo11> hi, how to enable auto login with gsettings command? thanks.
[09:44] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[09:44] <roland_> Dr_Willis: well i will pull it apart and look for dead solder joints
[09:44] <arc__> hi can someone help me with boot-repair
[09:44] <Wiz_KeeD> All laptops that have integrated GPU and a separate graphics card need the bumblebee thing installed on ubuntu?
[09:44] <Wiz_KeeD> Shopping for a new laptop and i'm killed between decision
[09:45] <sgo11> OR how to enable auto login in command line? thanks.
[09:47] <Wiz_KeeD> any1?
[09:48] <linu> ikonia, no it is default path name of compiler for arm and before it was working fine with other qt apps,
[09:48] <sgo11> anyway, I found it.
[09:49] <diverdude> how do i setup the system so i can send mail from commandline via a remote mailserver?
[09:49] <Touhou11> Wiz_KeeD: Macbook (Air if travelling a lot, Pro otherwise). Superior battery life and hardware to anything else
[09:49] <Wiz_KeeD> but I will have to run mac then :)
[09:50] <gordonjcp> Wiz_KeeD: dual boot
[09:50] <halt> Wiz_KeeD: system76
[09:50]  * gordonjcp has a macbook
[09:50] <Wiz_KeeD> will ubuntu run with it ok? what if i want windows as well :)
[09:50] <Touhou11> Wiz_KeeD: You can run Linux on them, but sadly OS X gets a much battery life in my experience
[09:50] <gordonjcp> works great with both Ubuntu and OSX
[09:51] <gordonjcp> Wiz_KeeD: mine's okay, I've never tried Windows though
[09:51] <gordonjcp> Wiz_KeeD: I tried it on a desktop but I couldn't get it to install
[09:51] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm
[09:51] <gordonjcp> Wiz_KeeD: I'm not enough of a propeller-beany nerd to understand Windows ;-)
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> nevr understod the macbook fascination. Its a 2000 dollar facebook machine....go figure
[09:53] <Wiz_KeeD> hahahahaha
[09:53]  * Wiz_KeeD laughs
[09:53] <Wiz_KeeD> This one looks great...but again that optimus piece of shit
[09:53] <Wiz_KeeD> http://www.emag.ro/laptop-samsung-cu-procesor-intel-174-core-small-sup-tm-sup-small-i5-3210m-2-50ghz-ivy-bridge-8gb-1tb-nvidia-geforce-gt-650m-2gb-microsoft-windows-8-silver-np550p5c-s03ro/pd/EVK0NBBBM/
[09:53] <FloodBot1> Wiz_KeeD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:53] <Touhou11> ActionParsnip: systemd / Wayland have borrowed ideas heavily from OS X architecture, so wouldn't be so quick to judge
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> Touhou11: yes but the hardware of Mac is so overpriced
[09:54] <malinus> "overpriced" ActionParsnip ? It's only like 2-3x the price
[09:54] <halt> Wiz_KeeD: again system76
[09:54] <Wiz_KeeD> what is system76?
[09:55] <malinus> ActionParsnip, would you rather spend 1000$ on a great notebook and go on vacation. Or be fancy when taking your notebook out in starbucks?
[09:56] <Gspot> guys does anyone have to suggest me a good movie player for ubuntu? i tried many of them and all they have little lag in HD movies..
[09:57] <malinus> Gspot, vlc is fine
[09:57] <arun_007> hii
[09:57] <halt> Wiz_KeeD: http://bit.ly/IBhlUH
[09:58] <Ben64> Gspot: i use mplayer2
[09:58] <Wiz_KeeD> halt, it does look sexy...
[09:59] <Gspot> i tried but have little lag.. and freezing you know is not something important but you can realize it
[09:59] <Ben64> thats probably a problem with your system or the video
[10:00] <Wiz_KeeD> wow halt, that has pretty much everything I want, ssd space, high ram, numpad
[10:01] <halt> Wiz_KeeD:  and ubuntu as default
[10:01] <Wiz_KeeD> pffuu, who are these guys? I never heard of them...but I doubt they have warranty in Romania :)
[10:01] <Gspot> well with the same pc i used windows before some months and in 1 player doesnt have anything of these
[10:03] <Ben64> Gspot: did you read what i said? it could be the video is bad
[10:04] <Ben64> Gspot: also could be your video drivers, the output of the video, or other stuff in increasingly unlikely scenarios, you've given no information so its impossible to tell
[10:04] <Gspot> oh maybe.. but isnt only 1 video, in all hd videos does that
[10:05] <ozbrk> hi guys I'm wondering about can I use openbox as a file manager with unity
[10:05] <ozbrk> without any break points
[10:05] <m3kk> hi, i suddenly lost all sound? i run pavucontrol and while i run a youtube video it shows dB goes up and down like there is actual sound.. but there is none? I have not tried to configure anything since it was working out of the box
[10:06] <Wiz_KeeD> halt, I need to find someone in the US or UK to buy it and ship it
[10:08] <helmut_> hi
[10:09] <halt> Wiz_KeeD: you wrote UK because you check my location ? :D
[10:11] <ozbrk> I guess noone hasn't any answer about thar
[10:11] <ozbrk> that-
[10:11] <m3kk> ozbrk, guess not
[10:12] <m3kk> It just out of the blue stoped.. like its muted but its not
[10:12] <ozbrk> m3kk can you hear the sounds on a different platform
[10:12] <m3kk> ozbrk, different platform?
[10:13] <ozbrk> windows-mac-android
[10:13] <ozbrk> -bsd
[10:13] <m3kk> You mean if i install another OS?
[10:13] <ozbrk> yes ı'm asking that because I need to know if your speakers have a different problem
[10:13] <ozbrk> like a mechanical problem
[10:14] <m3kk> ozbrk, yeah it have worked in windows and xubuntu for long time and suddenly stoped today.. i will try liveusb and see if it works there
[10:14] <ozbrk> m3kk which audio mixer do you use
[10:15] <ozbrk> pulseaudio + xfcemixer
[10:15] <m3kk> ozbrk, i have no idea i cant find any settings for sound in settings? just if i run pavucontrol from terminal
[10:15] <m3kk> ozbrk, where can  i see what im running?
[10:16] <ozbrk> xfcemizer is more lightwweight I mean it has less graphichal options
[10:16] <m3kk> ozbrk, "pulseaudio , demon already running"
[10:16] <ozbrk> yes
[10:16] <m3kk> if run in terminal
[10:16] <ozbrk> it's pulseaudio
[10:16] <m3kk> but i cant find any settings-menu for enablind/disabling different?
[10:16] <ozbrk> ok can you reach the sound settings in GUI
[10:16] <ozbrk> it's on system menu
[10:16] <m3kk> ozbrk, i have no "sound" icon in settings
[10:16] <m3kk> oh
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> malinus: if it does what I need then I'd go for the cheapest I can get that still does it
[10:17] <m3kk> ozbrk, where?
[10:17] <ozbrk> m3kk I asume there is a missing package on your system
[10:17] <malinus> ActionParsnip, you don't want to look cool?
[10:17] <ozbrk> it shoul be shown at your system settinga
[10:17] <m3kk> ozbrk, its pretty freshly installed :S
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> malinus: I'm not that sad
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> m3kk: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[10:18] <ozbrk> by the way run alsamixer on your term
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> malinus: my Samsung Tab 2.0 7 does exactly what most Mac users use their Macs for
[10:18] <m3kk> ActionParsnip, yeah now what? it opened something in terminal
[10:19] <m3kk> ActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=cc71dd82c2388133dae9a33a289701cc0a62fb9e
[10:20] <sgo11> what is /var/crash/.lock file? can I delete it? thanks.
[10:20] <ozbrk> guys can you tell me how can I use openbox as a file manager on unity (12.04 ubuntu)
[10:20] <Artpicre> Hello, how can I choose which browser an application have to open ?
[10:20] <Artpicre> It seems that it doesn't take the one with xdg-open
[10:21] <Artpicre> It takes a default browser one
[10:21] <Zerant> Artpicre http://askubuntu.com/questions/79305/how-do-i-change-my-default-browser
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> m3kk: if you run:   aplay -Dhw:1,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Fornt_left.wav    do you get sound?
[10:21] <Artpicre> Zerant> Already did that
[10:21] <Zerant> say didnt work?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> m3kk: also try:  alsamixer      make sure all levels are maxed and unmuted
[10:22] <Artpicre> It opens a built-in browser, in case of chromium
[10:22] <Zerant> Artpicre: you have to do it for every user and dont try it per terminal with sudo ;) that would change it for the root user not for your connected
[10:23] <Artpicre> Zerant> Did that
[10:23] <Artpicre> I reboot my client
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> m3kk: any good?
[10:26] <Artpicre> Zerant> Okay, now it works, I tried the command-line
[10:26] <Artpicre> Zerant> Thank you :)
[10:27] <Zerant> Artpicre: no porblem didnt do much ;)
[10:28] <Artpicre> :D
[10:28] <Depa> Hi guys :D I have a dual-boot (Windows 7 and Ubuntu 13.10)... Windows now is corrupted and this is my question: if I use Recovery Utility of Windows 7, I will lost Ubuntu partition?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Depa: depends how it is setup
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Depa: if its an image and an imaging application, it may set the system back to how you bought it
[10:30] <Depa> ActionParsnip: Windows 7 Recovery is in a dedicated partition
[10:30] <Depa> ActionParsnip: when I try to load Windows, it sugest me to boot from Recovery one
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Depa: doesnt tell us what its going to do
[10:31] <Depa> ActionParsnip: ok. So, do you know a correct way?
[10:32] <Depa> ActionParsnip: I would like to recover Windows Partition without touch Ubuntu one
[10:36] <szx> what is the package for qtconfig for Qt5 in Ubuntu? there's only qt4-config in repositories
[10:40] <abc> hello everybody  i have ubuntu 12.04 with dual with window system but it doesn't work wireless  in  ubuntu i need it in ubuntu to work wirless is there any help please?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Depa: no idea, You could make an image of the ubuntu data, reinstall etc, then restore the image
[10:40] <Depa> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks :)
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Depa: or (easier) backup settings and user data then do a full reinstall of both then restore your casual user data
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Depa: its one of the reasons I fully HATE recovery partitions
[10:42] <IwantUbuntu> Hello. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my USB stick. I booted the computer from the USB stick and during the installation process I've been asked to choose my drive, but I can't see the USB but only the host computer's HDD. What should I do??
[10:42] <sgo11> in Region&Language, how to change System settings --> Format? now, I can only change "Your Settings's format". thanks.
[10:42] <Depa> ActionParsnip: Yes, me too... I will completly formatting Windows Partition (and delete the Recovery one) and re-install Windows... After that, I will simply restore Ubuntu Grub2
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> IwantUbuntu: you need 2 USB sticks to install from USB to USB
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> IwantUbuntu: you cannot install the the same stick you have made with unetbootin etc
[10:43] <IwantUbuntu> ActionParsnip: Is there a workaround or something?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> IwantUbuntu: 2 sticks, a CD and a stick etc
[10:43] <IwantUbuntu> ActionParsnip: Will a normal CD work?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> IwantUbuntu: I guess you could make a small 1Gb partition and make unetbootin use that and leave the rest unpartitioned, then install to the free space
[10:44] <Paulus68_1> ActionParsnip:  I did succeed but only because my usb was large enough
[10:44] <abc> hello everybody  i have ubuntu 12.04 with dual with window system but it doesn't work wireless  in  ubuntu i need it in ubuntu to work wirless is there any help please?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> IwantUbuntu: yes, you can install to USB from an install CD
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> abc: what wifi chip?
[10:44] <IwantUbuntu> ActionParsnip: THANKS!!!
[10:44] <wylde> ActionParsnip, a sort of out there thought, I don't even know if the option still exists but would setting toram=yes at boot make that possible?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> wylde: i dont think thats a thing anymore in Ubuntu (sadly)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> wylde: makes puppy scream along :)
[10:45] <Patero-ng> are solid state drivers quiet
[10:45] <cfhowlett> Patero-ng, drivers?  silent
[10:46] <wylde> ActionParsnip, shame. I bet it does!
[10:46] <Patero-ng> cfhowlett: drives
[10:46] <cfhowlett> :)
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68_1: yes as they dont move. It is a drive too, not a driver
[10:46] <Paulus68_1> true
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68_1: drivers tell an OS how to communicate with hardware
[10:46] <Bollebib2> I 'm having a really horrible screendraw bug
[10:47] <Bollebib2> when moving,resizing,choosing any application window afterimages remain behind
[10:47] <Bollebib2> unity --reset puts everything right for a few hours and then the issue comes back after a reboot.
[10:47] <Bollebib2> I pinpointed the issue to an a day I updated (thursday)
[10:47] <Bollebib2> I just need help in going through the names and findsing the offending package and possibly reverse or remove it (maybe there is a double older package that interferes)
[10:47] <Patero-ng> cfhowlett: because I hate having 6 harddrives on my computer they all spin noise I with 1 ssd that's 1tb will be totally silent
[10:47] <FloodBot1> Bollebib2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:47] <cfhowlett> Patero-ng, sounds like a plan
[10:48] <Patero-ng> so that's why I'm asking if the ssd are totally silent
[10:48] <Bollebib2> apparantly I was flooding,I am sorry
[10:48] <Bollebib2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6300003/
[10:49] <abc> ActionParsnip:Wireless — 802.11b/g/n and Bluetooth® Combo V3.0+HS  Integrated Wired: Gigabit Ethernet network
[10:49] <cfhowlett> Patero-ng, no moving parts.  silent
[10:49] <Patero-ng> great
[10:49] <sgo11> How can I change "Region & Language" --> System --> System Settings --> Format ? I can only change user account format, not system format. thanks.
[10:49] <Bollebib2> I can reset unity again,but I don't want to need to do this every time
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> abc: doesnt tell us the chip at all
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> abc: Im guessing thats from Windows
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> abc: Windows doesnt tell you any of the good stuff, mainly because it's garbage
[10:50] <jhave> Hello
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> abc: in Ubuntu, run:   sudo lshw -C network    what wifi chip are you using?
[10:51] <jhave> I try to du a apt-get upgrade but i got this error: http://paste.jdh.dk/15
[10:51] <Patero-ng> anybody here knows how can I see images on w3m
[10:52] <jhave> anybody there have an ide how to fix it ?
[10:52] <mgsk> Patero-ng, use a non-text web browser.
[10:52] <Patero-ng> mgsk:my p4 is too slow for 13.10
[10:53] <troulouliou_dev> hi is it possible on a nfs server to set up  a transparent  trashbox when user delete files (like moving to .trashbox)
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> jhave: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:53] <abc> ActionParsnip:okay unfortunatly now iam using windows becaouse due to wirless problem iam shifting to bad windows so let e reeboot it and iwill tell you then?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Paulus68_1: Lubuntu 13.10 will rn it fine
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> abc: run the command in Ubuntu then use pen and paper to make a note of what you have
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> abc: its one line that will tell you
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> abc: is the system a laptop?
[10:54] <abc> ActionParsnip:yeah it is laptop
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> abc: thought to move near the router and use a wired connection to get fully updated?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> abc: laptops do have Ethernet ports you know...
[10:56] <abc> ActionParsnip:yeah they have ports ther is no cable near to me
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> abc: the wireless driver may offer itself to you over the Ethernet
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> abc: a cable will make this a lot easier. I'm betting its some cheapo Broadcom thing
[10:58] <abc> ActionParsnip:but the real problem is i cant get cable iam in huge campany and evryting is in wirless
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> abc: i doubt the servers are wireless
[10:59] <abc> ActionParsnip:yeah
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> you can get wifi dongles that work out of the box with ubuntu in the $10 range also. edimax micro dongle.
[10:59] <jhave> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> use them to get teh drivers for the other wifi stuff. but they might even work better then the built in card.
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> jhave: are there any bugs reported?
[11:00] <jhave> no its the only info
[11:00] <sgo11> How can I change "Region & Language" --> System --> System Settings --> Format ? I can only change user account format, not system format. thanks.
[11:01] <tsimpson> Patero-ng: use w3m-img
[11:01] <Xander_> uh.. I'm assuming here would be a smart place to get help?
[11:02] <jhave> ActionParsnip, a complet output of apt-get upgrade
[11:02] <jhave> http://paste.jdh.dk/16
[11:02] <Xander_> for switching to Ubuntu of course...
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> Xander_:  yes this is ubuntu support. ;)
[11:02] <Patero-ng> tsimpson: I just found that out thanks anyway!
[11:03] <Xander_> ok, well that's good - I was wondering if there was a way to run Ubuntu on my laptop, that's currently running Win 7, but keep the original OS somewhere if I ever want to switch back?
[11:04] <TinoDidriksen> Got a problem installing any Ubuntu newer than 12.10 on an older laptop. With 13.04+ I can install just fine, but when it then boots for real it complains it can't find the root device via disk-by-uuid. I can work around that, but it feels like something is terribly wrong...
[11:04] <abc> ActionParsnip: so is that possible to remove current Ubuntu with affect current window system?
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> Xander_:  first thing i do for a windows machine i get - is use the included tools to make a restore-the-os-DVD set.
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> Xander_:  ubuntu's installer can resize the windows partins so you can have both os's installed at the same time.
[11:06] <Xander_> Dr_Willis, so when I'm setting up Ubuntu after rebooting my computer, I would change the partition sizes of the hard disk?
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> Xander_:  or if you want to get fancy  - i often get a new SSD for  any new windows laptop i get and plan on converting to linux. I remove the windows HD. keep it safe (after making a dvd backup to go with it) and use the SSD and have a linux only system on the ssd.
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> Xander_:  the installer can resize the partions. windows can also resize/shrink its own partions.
[11:07] <paulpaul1076> does ssd make your laptops a lot faster?
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> paulpaul1076:  amazingly more faster-erer-er
[11:07] <paulpaul1076> dang, i need to get one of those things once i have the money
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> most laptops use very slow/low rpm hds also.
[11:08] <Wiz_KeeD> ubuntu supports nvidia or ati best?
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> and ssd drives are not that expensive these days
[11:08] <paulpaul1076> im tired of my visual studio taking forever to do one thing
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> Wiz_KeeD:  i tend to use nvidia, then inten, and ati as last resort.
[11:08] <Wiz_KeeD> inten?
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> nvidia, intel, ati...... anything else.. run away from. ;)
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> S3 - TOTALLY run from.
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> dual gpu optimus based systems - are a good idea to avoid also.
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> abc: how did you install it?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> abc: get a wired connection, update and install driver using additional drivers. Not tricky
[11:10] <vantesta> what is the best web editor for ubuntu 12.04 which has graphic support and code highlighting
[11:11] <abc> ActionParsnip:thanks
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> vantesta: there is no single best softare, for anyt8hing
[11:11] <sgo11> How can I change "Region & Language" --> System --> System Settings --> Format ? I can only change user account format, not system format. thanks.
[11:11] <gordonjcp> vantesta: what do you mean "graphic support"?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> vantesta: bluefish is a wysiwyg html editor
[11:11] <gordonjcp> vantesta: I just use gedit for editing html
[11:12] <Patero-ng> how can I copy text in nano o I can paste it here
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Patero-ng: copy the text as usual, paste to a pastebin as usual. The terminal can opy and paste text
[11:13] <Ionut> hi, how i fix this: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend upstart-job for hostname, probably a dependency cycle.
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Ionut: what causes the issue
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> Patero-ng:  if you see it in a terminal. you can select, then middle click
[11:15] <Ionut> ActionParsnip: i run sudo apt-get upgrade and recive You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. and give me E: Couldn't configure pre-depend upstart-job for hostname, probably a dependency cycle.
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Ionut: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:20] <ozbrk> hi guys I want tolearn which gtk version does mate use
[11:20] <Ionut> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 8.04 \n \l
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> ozbrk: I'd ask in the mint support channel
[11:20] <Patero-ng> Dr_Willis: I don't have mouse support
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Ionut: Hardy is dead, no longer supported in any way
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Ionut: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Ionut: there are zero packages and zero comnmunity support
[11:21] <Patero-ng> ActionParsnip: I don't know the shortcut for copy and paste
[11:21] <ozbrk> I'm using ubuntu weth mate but ok I gonna ask it with mint support
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ozbrk: mate is not supported here
[11:22] <troulouliou_dev> hi i m using cinnamon with firefox
[11:22] <luthaboy> helllo
[11:22] <Xethron> Nice
[11:22] <troulouliou_dev> when the flashgot addon is installed and i right click anywhere on firefox; the system freezes
[11:22] <Xethron> Not nice
[11:22] <jnhghy> don't right click...
[11:22] <troulouliou_dev> i need to kill firefox from a tty
[11:22] <troulouliou_dev> jnhghy, yep weird
[11:23] <troulouliou_dev> nobody else have this issue wth unity gnome shell ?
[11:23] <troulouliou_dev> jnhghy, disabled flashgot works too :)
[11:23] <Xethron> Yes, or assign your right click mouse button to preform another action :D
[11:24] <Ionut> ActionParsnip: 10x for help.
[11:24] <jnhghy> troulouliou_dev: have you read : http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/759149
[11:24] <Intergage> Evening all.
[11:25] <tirta-lalondong> hello guys
[11:25] <tirta-lalondong> i'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, i'm having problem with  Partial Upgrade everytime i open UpdateManager
[11:25] <vantesta> i installed my machine ubuntu 12.04 as dual boot with windows 7. how can i remove windows 7 and use only ubuntu 12.04 in my machine.
[11:26] <troulouliou_dev> jnhghy, ok thanks
[11:26] <tirta-lalondong> how do i get rid of this?
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> vantesta:  delete the windows partions
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> vantesta:  gparted can do it
[11:27] <m3kk> ActionParsnip, im sorry i cant see you responded to my link.. did you?
[11:27] <vantesta> my windows and ubuntu are installed in the same partition
[11:27] <tirta-lalondong> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, i'm having problem with Partial Upgrade,  every single time i open update manager? How to get rid of this?
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> vantesta:  you used WUBI? time to backup your linux files and otehr critical things and do a reinstall/repartion of the disk then
[11:27] <Intergage> vantesta: Delete all windows files? haha
[11:28] <Intergage> No don't do that, do what Dr_Willis said.
[11:28] <jpds> Patero-ng: images in w3m: install w3m-img.
[11:28] <jpds> And, someone else said that.
[11:30] <philinux> tirta-lalondong: use synaptic or in terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:31] <blinky_ghost> t
[11:31] <tirta-lalondong> i've tried that, seems not working though
[11:31] <philinux> tirta-lalondong: sorry that last bit should be dist-upgrade
[11:32] <Wiz_KeeD> Dr_Willis, what is the deal with WUBI anyway?
[11:32] <Patero-ng> jpds: I just did
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> Wiz_KeeD:  its best ran away from.....
[11:32] <Wiz_KeeD> Some sort of dark magic to it I bet
[11:33] <philinux> Wiz_KeeD: it's no longer included in the latest releases either
[11:34] <OerHeks> Wrecks Ubuntu Bad invention
[11:36] <philinux> Wiz_KeeD: see this for the amount of problems it can cause http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1639198
[11:36] <Intergage> Does anyone know if there is something like (Maybe better) then rainmeter for Ubuntu?
[11:37] <vantesta> is there any download manager used in ubuntu so as to enhance downloading in ubuntu
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> and rainmeter is?
[11:37] <Wiz_KeeD> ouch!
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> vantesta:  i find i rarely need a download manager these days
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> vantesta:  thers some in the repositories i belive
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> m3kk: if you run:  alsamixer   are all levels maxed and unmuted?
[11:41] <OerHeks> vantesta, rainmeter > conky
[11:42] <veneci> hello everyone, I'm setting up a jabber account with a client, and I'm asked to enter a jabberID, but it has a server extension like ID@server.org..since there is no server list to choose from, can I just assign any jabber server here?
[11:43] <veneci> the ID has to have a server extension, I mean
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> I thought differnt services used jabber. you pick the company/service you want.
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> http://www.jabber.org/
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> Jabber.org is the original IM service based on XMPP and one of the key nodes on the XMPP network.
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> http://xmpp.net/   other xmpp services.
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> google talk also uses it
[11:45] <veneci> thank you, Dr_Willis! jabber.org is currently not available, their website says. but I'll choose another one, then
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> I dont use any of them. :) well i guess i do use google talk every so often
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> night all.
[11:47] <Zorky> Can anyone tell me if they changed remote-login-service from 13.04 to 13.10?
[11:49] <Intergage> Is there anything I should install to make graphics a little better with nivida? Things seem a little laggy.
[11:49] <Jpmh> if I right click on the network manager icon I can edit the connection information.  For example I can set which DNS servers a particuar connection will use.  What file is this info saved in?
[11:52] <Zorky> anyone know if remote-login-service got change from 13.04 to 13.10?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: you mean the option on the login screen?
[11:53] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  yes. did it get changed from 13.04 to 13.10?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: not sure mate, I can check
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: if you install remote-login-service package it will readd it
[11:54] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  it just states allready newest version
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=remote-login-service&searchon=names  seems to be in Ubuntu since 12.10
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: not something I've used to be honest
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: if the entries are not appearing in lightdm, you could report a bug
[11:56] <Zorky> the version in 13.10 is 1.0.0-0ubuntu4
[11:56] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  im trying to modify it so i can use it to login a thin client
[11:57] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  but it's acting weird in 13.10 compared to 13.04
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: sounds like a regression the
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> then*
[12:00] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  ohh well. thanks for the help :)
[12:03] <BenyaminL> Anyone can help me with gnu c?
[12:03] <BenyaminL> Programming
[12:03] <TinoDidriksen> ##C can.
[12:03] <BenyaminL> Ok
[12:04] <BenyaminL> TinoDidriksen: i have problem with declaration on c, that's about char n
[12:04] <TinoDidriksen> No, ask ##C
[12:04] <BenyaminL> Yeah i'm asking about ##C fam
[12:04] <TinoDidriksen> No, /join ##C and ask them.
[12:04] <BenyaminL> tinoDidriksen: they're one fam
[12:04] <BenyaminL> Oh
[12:04] <BenyaminL> Thx
[12:11] <djnilse> hello guys
[12:11] <djnilse> i would need a little suggestion
[12:12] <djnilse> does somebody know a good wifi usb adapter that works good with linux/ubuntu ???
[12:12] <Romance> Hey, i turned off the power management of my wifi usb adapter, but now i am getting disconnected frequently (IRC connection), past 10 minutes i was disconnected like 5 times, what happened? i plugged in power supply
[12:12] <veneci> I create an account on jabber, it is shown "not active" and when I try to change the status to "online", it asks for my password. I enter it, and it doesnt accept
[12:12] <veneci> this happened twice
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> djnilse: if you look on Amazon for reviews, you may find people stating what works in Ubuntu
[12:13] <djnilse> i have a compatibility list here
[12:13] <djnilse> but i dont know good manufactures
[12:14] <djnilse> had an AVM Fritz!Wlan one and i had to use ndiswrapper
[12:14] <djnilse> guess i will be looking for the most popular on amayon
[12:14] <OerHeks> veneci, maybe you need to answer the register mail?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> djnilse: eg http://www.amazon.com/Panda-150Mbps-Wireless-N-2-4GHz-Adapter/dp/B003283M6Q/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1382703265&sr=1-2&keywords=linux+usb+wifi
[12:14] <veneci> OerHeks, but I entered no email address
[12:15] <djnilse> hmm, okay, i guess i will do it this way
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> djnilse: see at the bottom how people review what OSes ran?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> djnilse: useful huh
[12:16] <djnilse> yeah :)
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> djnilse: not seen that before?
[12:17] <OerHeks> veneci, i assumes you need to use an emailadress, i don't use jabber
[12:17] <OerHeks> *assumed
[12:17] <djnilse> ActionParsnip, well yeah, but i have something thats also cool : http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/Karten
[12:17] <djnilse> even if it is in german ;P
[12:17] <veneci> account setup seems to require only creating a jabberID and password
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> djnilse: product names don't get translated ;). Noce find
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> *nice
[12:18] <pranav> i was curious, i have 2 OSes win7 and ubuntu installed in seperate partition (dual boot). Since i have to switch them frequently, Is there a way i can use virtualbox to boot my windows partition from ubuntu at the same time. if now why ?
[12:18] <djnilse> gonna go through all the popular wifi usb dongles on amazon until i find a compatible one
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> pranav: you can use virtualbox to boot the other OS but I have heard of data loss, this was ages ago
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> pranav: I'd ask in #vbox
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> djnilse: good move
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> djnilse: or, buy from companies selling Ubuntu preinstalled systems. If you contact them they may fill you in :)
[12:19] <pranav> ActionParsnip: ok
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> pranav: games will not run
[12:20] <djnilse> hmm i will see
[12:20] <akShri> hi, i m unable to set up my tuner, make hauppage.. suggest me a chat channel to get help please
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> akShri: run:   lspci    if the device is PCI, you will see the chip it uses. Use that to find guides
[12:23] <akShri> ok ActionParsnip.. will do that.. :)
[12:24] <akShri> hey ActionParsnip : mine is usb tuner.. and i m using set top box.. now what to do??
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> akShri: lsusb   use the 8 character hex id
[12:35] <veneci> OerHeks, it was my overlooking one detail at registration. now it worked, thank you very much"
[12:35] <veneci> !
[12:35] <OerHeks> veneci, have fun!
[12:35] <veneci> thank you! :)
[12:37] <lukerino> ciao
[12:37] <lukerino> !list
[12:37] <lukerino> !list
[12:48] <Patero-ng> does anyone knows how to open a new tab in w3m
[12:48] <humanoids> paternoster?
[12:51] <Jpmh> where does the network manager store the info that I enter concerning which DNS etc to use for each of ny wifi connections
[12:52] <Patero-ng> humanoids: dime?
[12:52] <humanoids> i don't have dimes
[12:52] <NuSuey> uh, folks.. any idea what could be the problem - I receive a high pitched noise ~ 20 secs when I use my ouput to HDMI and try to watch something .. using the Open Source AMD drivers (got the Radeon HD 6850 GPU card)
[12:52] <humanoids> 10 cent?
[12:52] <blahblah> NuSuey: might be the gpu they sometimes make that noise
[12:53] <NuSuey> blahblah: uhm what do you mean?
[12:54] <blahblah> NuSuey: gpus can make a high pitch noise sometimes, especially with certain resolutions / refresh rates.
[12:54] <NuSuey> blahblah: uhm, and I would hear that in the HDMI output? :o
[12:54] <blahblah> is the noise coming from the hdmi connector then?
[12:55] <NuSuey> blahblah: I meant, that I hear the sound in the TV o.O
[13:04] <NuSuey> blahblah: guess you didnt understand me
[13:05] <new1> hey everyone, i am trying to kick my user using my password.
[13:05] <blahblah>  /msg nickserv release?
[13:05] <new1> will try
[13:05] <blahblah> release name password
[13:06] <new1> now how can i log with my password and change my nick and stay here?
[13:06] <new1> blahblah, tnx, that's worked
[13:07] <blahblah>  /msg nickserv identify
[13:07] <new1> yea, but at the moment i am on different nick
[13:08] <blahblah>  /nick
[13:08] <blahblah> google freenode commands
[13:08] <blahblah> or /j #freenode
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> !identify
[13:09] <new1> tnx
[13:09] <Wiz_KeeD> is sshd any good?
[13:09] <wylde> o.O
[13:09] <blahblah> lol
[13:09] <blahblah> its alright
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: there is openssh-server in the repos, it wil give you an SSH server
[13:10] <Wiz_KeeD> sorry, the hybrid hard-drive ssd hybrid tingy
[13:10] <Wiz_KeeD> my bad
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: if you need the functionality, they are great
[13:11] <TuXhAt> so im not banned anymore
[13:11] <TuXhAt> hmm
[13:11] <blahblah> Wiz_KeeD: they are one of them things that are gona ba obsolete
[13:11] <Wiz_KeeD> of course I need faster boot times and faster application launching :)
[13:11] <zetheroo> strange occurrence ... Ubuntu 12.04 not keeping DNS setting as defined in resolv.conf after a reboot ...
[13:11] <TuXhAt> its me tuxhat
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> TuXhAt: seems not
[13:11] <Wiz_KeeD> and working with databases a lot, read time helps tremendously
[13:12] <zetheroo> had no DNS issues a few days ago
[13:12] <blahblah> Wiz_KeeD: buy a proper ssd and a large hdd for large files
[13:12] <blahblah> Wiz_KeeD: ssds are so cheap now
[13:12] <Wiz_KeeD> blahblah, great, how how do I place one in a 15 inch laptop? :))
[13:12] <blahblah> in the hdd slot?
[13:13] <Wiz_KeeD> and replace the original one without a backup? :(
[13:13] <blahblah> external drive?
[13:13] <blahblah> like usb or something
[13:13] <TuXhAt> i tested out ubuntu 13.04 i must say it works good... the sad thing all that spyware shit like internet search i know u can stop it and disable it and stuff but its just u know all useless feature nobody wants from a open source OS... another thing i tried all the ubuntu snapshot since like 2004
[13:13] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah that would be a solution
[13:13] <TuXhAt> but im still more a debian knoppix guy
[13:13] <TuXhAt> but now i use arch linux
[13:13] <TuXhAt> anyone use arch linux
[13:13] <TuXhAt> wow what a amazing OS
[13:13] <blahblah> its shit
[13:13] <blahblah> nah joking itsok
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Tux`: the amazon lens isnt spyware
[13:23] <new1> can i have a link for JDK for my ubuntu? need to run netbeans
[13:27] <lessless> hi folks! I do not see a cursor in Shank 2 game
[13:27] <lessless> can anyone help me?
[13:29] <xyzwhatever> has anyone here used the PLOP bootloader??
[13:32] <OerHeks> xyzwhatever, plop boot manager is rubbish, you cannot use an usb keyboard with it  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManager#PLoP_Boot_Manager
[13:36] <xyzwhatever> OerHeks:   i need it for an old notebook that cant boot from usb stick
[13:37] <xyzwhatever> so anyways my question is if the plpbt.iso  is all i need, no bios file stuff...
[13:37] <xyzwhatever> just burn it on cd and done
[13:38] <Mendigaum> something weird happened to my 13.10 install, and suddently many distro programs disappeared. Like unity, terminal, software center, etc... I reinstalled unity so i got my user interface back, but i dont know the name of the packages responsible for the other tools. Can some1 help me?
[13:41] <OerHeks> xyzwhatever, the manual is in that url too, you need the .img file and then configure it. never been that far, as it does not handle usb keyboard.
[13:44] <hillary_> am trying to install Marble Arena 2 in ubuntu 12.04 but it requires i buy and the price is $0.00. what do i do
[13:44] <james-t-quirk> that makes no cents !
[13:45] <james-t-quirk> just your ubuntu id will do
[13:45] <hillary_> now how do i install it
[13:46] <james-t-quirk> I have had that before, enter ID and agree and software downloads
[13:46] <TheDeadMessenger> Hey All
[13:48] <spessex> hi. new to channel. hope it might be the right channel? Having a problem rsyncing files from local to remote server, it looks like it's connecitng and syncing but for some reason I'm seeing a lot of mention of various things in Applications which is making me think I've got it wrong. I only need it to send the files contained within the /MRFGR2_RetryB/ folder). Any suggesitons?   using rsync -avz -e 'ssh -p 2222'
[13:48] <spessex> /Applications/MAMP/htdocs/Linode/MRFGR2_RETRY_Versions/MRFGR2_RetryB username@domain.com:/var/www/domain.com/public_html
[13:48] <TheDeadMessenger> Today, A challenge will be issued. 1 man, 2 OS, 2 HDs, 1 tower. Can Messenger do it, we will see. With the help of friends, perhaps we won't be living up to his name today....
[13:50] <wylde> spessex, make sure you have a trailing / unless you want the entire folder syncd rather than the files within.
[13:51] <cathal> hi. I have an arch linux command "sudo pacman -Sy --noprogressbar --needed --noconfirm nginx python2 python2-virtualenv"  that I need to run the equivalent of in ubuntu server. I'm guessing something like "apt-get install -y ? ? packages"
[13:51] <spessex> wylde: thanks. I'll give it a try. so you mean rsync -avz -e 'ssh -p 2222' /Applications/MAMP/htdocs/Linode/MRFGR2_RETRY_Versions/MRFGR2_RetryB/ username@domain.com:/var/www/domain.com/public_html
[13:52] <new1> is there a way to install  JAVA JDK on ubuntu with just app?
[13:52] <wylde> spessex, exactly
[13:52] <spessex> wylde: great will try it :)
[13:52] <gvo> spessex that will put everything in .../MRFGR2_RetryB folder into ../public_html, if that's what you want.
[13:52] <wylde> !java | new1
[13:52] <rogekr> i have a questions about keyboard layouts, when you have eg. laptop envy 13-2100es or 2100en the machine will be (respectively) from spanish or english market but what about ee, ex, ef, et i looked in google but no luck, thank you
[13:53] <spessex> gvo: yes. thats great
[13:53] <new1> wylde, tnx. right i don't need it. just the JRE i think. to run netbeans
[13:53] <gvo> spessex:  what you had duplicated the MRFGR2_RetryB in public_html,
[13:54] <TheDeadMessenger> Uuugggh, So many problems with using linux, so much stuff to learn. And every distro is truely different, different errors, different nuiances with the UI, etcetc. Being a novice operator sucks... Why isn't 13.04 opening excutables anymore, and how else would I start the said program?
[13:55] <spessex> gvo: yes. MRFGR2_RetryB is where all the local dev files are and I want to send them into the public_html folder on the remote server. Is this right?
[13:55] <gvo> spessex yes.
[13:55] <wylde> spessex, don't forget if you're unsure you can test with -n to do a "dry run" that won't actually make any changes.
[13:56] <gvo> As long as you don't want a MRFGR2_RetryB folder withing public_html
[13:56] <spessex> gvo: wylde: great. where would I put the -n?
[13:56] <gvo> spessex:anywhere before the files specs
[13:57] <spessex> gvo: wylde: no I don't want the MRFGR2_RetryB folder in public_html just the contents of MRFGR2_RetryB
[13:57] <gvo> So wylde gave you the correct answer.
[13:57] <wylde> spessex, you can include it with the other switches or even on it's own
[13:57] <gvo> rsync -n -avz or rsync -anvz
[13:57] <wylde> ^^
[13:57] <spessex> gvo: wylde: whats confusing me is that I'm getting loads of code in terminal similar to this Applications/.AdobePatchFiles/{109570E0-F794-4497-B53A-94C74513C234}/4e053f926d1cf5b2476a7b4175b5acaf
[13:57] <spessex> Applications/.AdobePatchFiles/{109570E0-F794-4497-B53A-94C74513C234}/4ed68e70901e3c483886963f379150c0
[13:58] <gvo> spessex: that's a hidden file that is being tranfered.
[13:58] <wylde> spessex, is /Applications/.../.... the full path?
[13:58] <wylde> spessex, make sure you're using the full path from / to prevent issues
[13:59] <gvo> I suspect from within the MRFGR2_RetryB folder there is a Applications folder and that file is a part of it.
[13:59] <spessex> gvo: wylde: I think it's the full path. I'm simply dragging the folder to the terminal which gives /Applications/MAMP/htdocs/Linode/MRFGR2_RETRY_Versions/MRFGR2_RetryB
[14:00] <wylde> gvo, that would make sense
[14:01] <spessex> gvo: wylde: so I should be using rsync -n -avz -e 'ssh -p 2222' /Applications/MAMP/htdocs/Linode/MRFGR2_RETRY_Versions/MRFGR2_RetryB/ username@domain.com:/var/www/domain.com/public_html to test?
[14:02] <gvo> yes
[14:02] <new1> wylde, so what is the best way for JAVA?
[14:03] <spessex> gvo: wylde: so would would it be taking hidden files…. there's literally 10's of them, maybe even a hundred? I have nothing to do with AdobePatches in the folder, it's just a drupal site?
[14:03] <gvo> spessex: Yes it takes all files
[14:03] <wylde> spessex, exactly. Then when you're happy with the output, remove the -n to have the transfer take place.
[14:03] <new1> wylde, is open JAVA ok?
[14:04] <wylde> spessex, if you don't need the dot files, (files starting with . to transfer you can exclude them.
[14:04] <wylde> new1 for typical usage yes
[14:04] <spessex> gvo: but why would it be taking Applications/.AdobePatchFiles/{109570E0-F794-4497-B53A-94C74513C234}/4ed68e70901e3c483886963f379150c0 which appears to be from the base folder Applications and not the final folder MRFGR2_RetryB? Sorry to sound a bit dumb here but I'm pretty new to this. Thanks for your patience
[14:04] <new1> wylde, tnx
[14:04] <wylde> new1, if you want oracle java webupd8 has a ppa with an installer
[14:05] <spessex> wylde: can you advise how to exclude with the command I'm currently using?
[14:05] <wylde> new1, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[14:05] <gvo> spessex: look at the folder MRFGR2_RetryB does it contain a folder named Applications?
[14:05] <new1> wylde, just need to run netbeans is that good?
[14:06] <wylde> new1, I have no idea. Maybe someone else knows. Sorry
[14:06] <spessex> gvo: sh*t it does! my mistake. its when I was messing resyc before and obviously cocked up! thanks again :)
[14:06] <gvo> spessex: np
[14:06] <Guest51641> hey. Have a USB wireless mouse that works fine on other OS, but seems to do nothing on ubuntu?
[14:08] <Guest51641> lsusb identifies it as: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 2c1a:0000 Dolphin Peripherals Wireless Optical Mouse
[14:08] <iguano> http://www.theweeklypay.com/index.php?share=19844/
[14:08] <gvo> Guest51641: what's dmesg | tail -23
[14:09] <gvo> say
[14:09] <gvo> Don't paste the output here, however.
[14:09] <iguano> http://www.theweeklypay.com/index.php?share=19844/
[14:09] <wylde> iguano, don't spam here
[14:09] <Guest51641> gvo: where?
[14:10] <wylde> !paste | Guest51641
[14:10] <gvo> FIrst look at the output and see if anything tells you what's wrong.  Then use pastebin if you can't figure it out.
[14:10] <gvo> Guest51641: Like wylde says.
[14:10] <Guest51641> nothing obvious as far as I can see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6300842/
[14:11] <esde> Running ubuntu desktop 12.04, using virtualbox, logged into a windows 7 guest machine, all letters of the alphabet and the digits work but punctuation keys do not work, how do i enable punctation keys too?
[14:11] <TheDeadMessenger> Uuugggh, So many problems with using linux, so much stuff to learn. And every distro is truely different, different errors, different nuiances with the UI, etcetc. Being a novice operator sucks... Why isn't 13.04 opening excutables anymore, and how else would I start the said program?
[14:11] <gvo> Guest51641: Try restarting udev or rebooting.
[14:12] <Guest51641> gvo: rebooted a few times, both with usb in or out, moving it between ports, no difference
[14:12] <esde> TheDeadMessenger, I know that feel. Keep working at it and once you start to "get it" everything becomes easier
[14:12] <gvo> Guest51641: Hmm.  Don't know of anything else to try.
[14:13] <TheDeadMessenger> esde, thanks, but htf does anyone learn anything if it keeps changing?
[14:13] <wylde> TheDeadMessenger, what "executables"?
[14:13] <Guest51641> gvo: Thanks anyway.. anyone else have any thoughts on this?
[14:13] <TheDeadMessenger> Its the firestorm viewer, I downloaded, extracted it and tired running it, but it opens in gedit
[14:13] <esde> TheDeadMessenger, try an LTS release.
[14:14] <TheDeadMessenger> I thought I was putting a LTS on it, using wubi
[14:14] <TheDeadMessenger> but it appeared as 13.04
[14:14] <Guest51641> So what's the next step to working out what's wrong? Is there a support ticket option anywhere?
[14:15] <gvo> Guest51641: You can try http://ubuntuforums.org/
[14:15] <TheDeadMessenger> Buuuhhh, am I an Idiot!!! WTFFF
[14:15] <wylde> TheDeadMessenger, ugh...wubi. What exactly did you download? A tarball?
[14:16] <Guest51641> gvo: OK, I'll give that a go. thanks for trying to help
[14:16] <esde> Any ideas on why certain keys don't pass through to my windows guest? Like I said before, it's only the keys like period, comma, colon
[14:16] <gvo> Guest51641: You can also search the forums for non working mice problems.
[14:16] <k1l_> !details | Guest51641
[14:16] <gimmic> keepass2 is crashing my X
[14:16] <gimmic> That is awesome.
[14:16] <gvo> k1l_: He did.
[14:17] <gimmic> anyone else running keepass2 on unity?
[14:17] <esde> yep
[14:17] <gimmic> when I go to click "new" under the UI, it completely crashes my x
[14:17] <andry>  i did, switched to keepassx and kbd files
[14:17] <andry> much more stable
[14:17] <TheDeadMessenger> wylde, pardon? I am trying to salvage a PC. I wanted 12.04 LTS, but I got 13.something
[14:18] <andry> test
[14:18] <TheDeadMessenger> but my problem is I don't know what the command is to start the program and no google search I do is helping.
[14:18] <esde> http://storage7.static.itmages.com/i/13/1025/h_1382710693_8355885_d7016cadbc.png
[14:18] <esde> Is that where it crashes or do i need to keep going?
[14:18] <gimmic> keepass2, not keepassX
[14:19] <andry> yes, was just telling .. i switched due to problems
[14:19] <gimmic> keepassX seems to be working fine
[14:19] <esde> Ahh, my bad. I think I had the same problem
[14:19] <gimmic> as soon as I hit "new", X crashes entirely hard reset
[14:19] <esde> I had to convert my old db from kdbx to kdb
[14:19] <k1l_> TheDeadMessenger: lsb_release -a    #in a terminal will tell you with ubuntu it is exactly
[14:19] <gimmic> keepassX seems to be working fine. Oh well
[14:19] <esde> then use keepassx
[14:19] <chro> hi, after updating ubuntu to the latest version my keyboard stopped working...
[14:19] <TheDeadMessenger> It's 13.10
[14:20] <andry> funny .. i downloaded 12.04lts server on work today and got 13.10 too
[14:20] <sarvsav> Hello everyone.
[14:20] <TheDeadMessenger> you did, really? I'm not tripping then, and the drugs have worn off!
[14:21] <Pici> TheDeadMessenger: From which link did you download it from?
[14:21] <TheDeadMessenger> I was using wubi
[14:21] <sarvsav> I am writing a C program, and i need to use curl/curl.h file
[14:21] <andry> < downloaded via ubuntu.com and some .edu mirror
[14:21] <k1l_> TheDeadMessenger: wubi is not a download target
[14:21] <sarvsav> I just have installed curl, using this command sudo apt-get install curl
[14:21] <gordonjcp> sarvsav: you might also want curl-dev
[14:22] <k1l_> TheDeadMessenger: and most user recommend to avoid wubi . i prefer a real install, too
[14:22] <TheDeadMessenger> I like booting from a USB though
[14:22] <TheDeadMessenger> how is a real install?
[14:22] <wylde> TheDeadMessenger, then use a live usb with persistance, rather than wubi ;)
[14:22] <sarvsav> gordonjcp, : how to install them? Sorry, i am new to ubuntu
[14:22] <gvo> sudo apt-get install curl-dev
[14:22] <k1l_> TheDeadMessenger: wubi is the install into the windows partition. dont know what you mean
[14:23] <TheDeadMessenger> I'm only using wubi to install ubuntu on the machines, I'm not running it at all.
[14:23] <TheDeadMessenger> BUAHA
[14:23] <kostkon> sarvsav, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libcurl3&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all
[14:23] <sarvsav> Reading package lists... Done
[14:23] <sarvsav> Building dependency tree
[14:23] <sarvsav> Reading state information... Done
[14:23] <sarvsav> E: Unable to locate package curl-dev
[14:23] <TheDeadMessenger> FRAK
[14:23] <TheDeadMessenger> I meant eNetbootin...
[14:23] <k1l_> TheDeadMessenger: do you mean unetbootin?
[14:23] <TheDeadMessenger> yea, that.
[14:23] <TheDeadMessenger> i'm not idiot
[14:23] <opth> hey guys i am on ubuntu 13.10 and the COG for power off and log out has disappeared . what to do ?
[14:23] <TheDeadMessenger> I swear
[14:24] <TheDeadMessenger> I'm just really tired from a 60 hr work week in a tortilla factory.
[14:24] <gvo> sarvsav: apt-get install libcurl-dev
[14:24] <gordonjcp> sarvsav: same way you installed curl
[14:25] <andry> libcurl4-openssl-dev <
[14:25] <wylde> opth, reboot will likely do it. Compiz probably barfed at some point. Just had my 14.04 daily machine do that.
[14:25] <Pici> andry: anyway you can get the exact mirror?
[14:25] <andry> yes, my laptop at work is on with remote desktop, second please
[14:25] <sarvsav> Thanks, gvo, gordonjcp and kostkon
[14:25] <knoppix> how to use compizz in kali linux 1.0.5??>>><<??
[14:25] <wylde> !kali | knoppix
[14:25] <gvo> sarvsav: one of those answers will work.  ;)
[14:25] <gordonjcp> !unsupported | knoppix
[14:26] <knoppix> thx)
[14:26] <opth> wylde: k thanx man
[14:26] <opth> wylde: but this is the second time it has done that
[14:26] <sarvsav> Yeah, i used sudo apt-get install libcurl4-gnutls-dev and it worked. gvo
[14:27] <gvo> sarvsav: Satisfies your compile/configure?
[14:27] <sarvsav> Yes. gvo :)
[14:28] <wylde> opth, hmmm not sure what's causing it. If it continues it might be worth investigating further.
[14:29] <andry> Pici, cannot connect to the pc at the moment, maybe later
[14:29] <Pici> andry: okay, thats fine
[14:34] <TheDeadMessenger> HOKAY. LETS DO THIS.
[14:35] <LjL> or not
[14:35] <TheDeadMessenger> Pls?
[14:37] <TheDeadMessenger> I need to do a couple of things, can anyone help me some what? I need a crake to my snowman
[14:38] <DJones> TheDeadMessenger: This is Ubuntu support, please stay on topic
[14:39] <TheDeadMessenger> Djones; Sorry, I'm trying to get some up-tier support.
[14:39] <anteaya> I want to install this package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/owncloud but I don't want to install the owncloud-mysql part of the package, is there a flag I can use to exclude owncloud-mysql?
[14:39] <esde> Can someone please help me figure out why I can't type using punctuation in a windows 7 virtualbox guest on ubuntu 12.04??? It's extremely frustrating not being able to use periods and the like
[14:40] <ActionPa1snip> esde: so windows is the host, or the guest?
[14:40] <new1> where all the app on unity?
[14:40] <esde> guest
[14:40] <ActionPa1snip> new1: how do you mean?
[14:40] <ActionPa1snip> esde: then I'd ask in ##windows
[14:40] <Pici> anteaya: try with the --no-install-recommends flag?
[14:40] <new1> ActionPa1snip, well, i just installed netbeans but i don't see it and i can't open it
[14:41] <anteaya> Pici: thank you, I will try that
[14:41] <new1> ActionPa1snip, and it's not on the left pane
[14:41] <ActionPa1snip> new1: how did you install it?
[14:41] <andry> anteaya, are you sure you dont want the client?
[14:41] <new1> ActionPa1snip, with .sh file
[14:41] <esde> Well i wanted to make sure ubuntu was passing the commands, and I'm not missing some dependency to enable all keyboard input to be forwarded to the virtualbox guest
[14:41] <anteaya> andry: yes I am using trove for the db
[14:41] <andry> ah okay :)
[14:41] <anteaya> andry: thanks for asking though
[14:42] <new1> ActionPa1snip, found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Netbeans not sure what is mean
[14:42] <ActionPa1snip> new1: can you launch it from ALT+F2 ?
[14:42] <new1> ActionPa1snip, no luck
[14:42] <anteaya> Pici andry put it isn't a recommends package, it is a depends package
[14:42] <new1> ActionPa1snip, what is the shortcut for Application ->?
[14:43] <anteaya> s/put/but
[14:43] <andry> you may edit the deb package and remove the depends :P
[14:43] <somsip> new1: did you 'sudo netbeansinstaller.sh' or whatever the file is called?
[14:43] <Pici> anteaya: Then you need to install it.
[14:43] <ActionPa1snip> new1: http://plugins.netbeans.org/plugin/40321/
[14:43] <anteaya> Pici okay thanks
[14:43] <ActionPa1snip> new1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1001973
[14:43] <new1> just ./netbeans-7.4-php-linux.sh
[14:43] <anteaya> andry ha ha ha, easier to just feed it a mysql password and move along
[14:43] <new1> somsip, ^
[14:44] <somsip> new1: from memory, that will install in your home directory, but looks like ActionPa1snip has a link for you
[14:45] <andry> i can do that for you anteaya
[14:45] <andry> :P
[14:45] <xperement> how can i configure console keyboard layout switching?
[14:45] <anteaya> andry you can edit the debian package?
[14:45] <andry> yes, the depends
[14:46] <anteaya> awesome! thanks
[14:46] <xevil> have there beem any major problems upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10?
[14:46] <anteaya> I work on openstack and sense there would be more folks in my position, wanted to use owncloud and want a different db, andry
[14:46] <anteaya> s/wanted/wanting
[14:47] <dkinzer> I'm getting an internal server error at http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[14:47] <andry> but the owncloud-sqlite is fine?
[14:47] <anteaya> andry: if we could get rid of that too, that would be great
[14:47] <anteaya> just owncloud, so I can use trove
[14:47] <anteaya> without extra stuff
[14:47] <wylde> anteaya, should be trivial to grab the source, edit the depends in the debian/control file build and up to a ppa ;)
[14:48] <anteaya> wylde: trivial if you have done it before
[14:48] <anteaya> I have not
[14:49] <andry> < uploading :O
[14:49] <andry> but i just left out the databases
[14:49] <andry> www.debinux.de/owncloud_wo_db.deb
[14:49] <FILAZ> Hello
[14:49] <anteaya> andry thank you
[14:50] <new1> somsip, right, i just sudo install .sh it. and now i can see that. tnx
[14:51] <andry> try it first, hope it works
[14:51] <anteaya> andry spinning up a vm to test it out
[14:51] <somsip> new1: np
[14:51] <andry> :) okay
[14:51] <FILAZ> Andry can you help me a little?
[14:51] <new1> any idea how to install xampp?
[14:51] <ActionPa1snip> new1: all you need is a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ to run the right files
[14:52] <andry> FILAZ, just ask to the room
[14:52] <Pici> !xampp | new1
[14:52] <new1> ActionPalship not sure what u mean, or how to do it
[14:53] <new1> Pici, tnx
[14:55] <andry> meh, anyone knows if nautilus can follow symlinks on ftp connections?
[14:56] <FILAZ> Ok, I have ubuntu 64 bits, downloaded CrossOver Trial, but it's 32 bits, I can't install it, I Install ia32-libs but I get error dpkg message
[14:56] <FILAZ> dpkg: error al procesar crossover_12.5.1-1_i386.deb (--install):
[14:56] <FILAZ>  analizando archivo «/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/control» cerca de la línea 8 paquete «crossover:i386»:
[14:56] <FILAZ>  'Recommends' field, reference to 'lib32nss-mdns': invalid architecture name 'amd64': a value different from 'any' is currently not allowed
[14:56] <FILAZ> Se encontraron errores al procesar:
[14:57] <Smashcat> Anyone here used Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro Retina? (15" with Nvidia 750M if it matters?) Interested if the hardware is well supported before I take the plunge to wipe OSX and install it.
[14:58] <FILAZ> anyone knows that I can do?
[14:58] <andry> doesnt ubuntu come with multilips already? else try "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386"
[14:58] <andry> multilibs*
[14:59] <anteaya> andry: when I was installing dependencies it got messy fast, output suggested I use apt-get -f install which I did and there is mysql again :(
[14:59] <siwica> what is the recommended way to update from 13.04 to 13.10?
[14:59] <anteaya> not to worry, I will end up just using the owncloud package, less for me to have to puppet anyway
[14:59] <anteaya> thanks though
[14:59] <ikonia> !upgrade
[15:01] <FILAZ> Thank's Adry I will do
[15:02] <hellz_> yo
[15:02] <YellowGTO> yp
[15:07] <siwica> when opening the Software Updater I get: "Failed to download repository information, Check your internet connection". Altough letting me write this on here proves my internet connection is perfectly fine. How could I solve this?
[15:08] <jhutchins> siwica: Correct the entries in your sources lists.
[15:09] <siwica> jhutchins: how do I find out which ones are corrupt?
[15:09] <jhutchins> siwica: You might want to check the errata and mailing lists before you make the jump - unless you have an easy way to snapshot your sytem for rollback.
[15:10] <jhutchins> siwica: running the update in a console (aptitude update) should show you which repositories are failing.
[15:11] <siwica> jhutchins: well my only reason to make the switch are difficulties I have installing haskell
[15:12] <everald> Hello. ck-list-sessions doesn't show  any sessions, even though logged in with unity; is this a bug
[15:12] <BooeyOH> In 12.04 how can I see more detail about ssh sessions, such as what files were transferred, etc?
[15:12] <Shinobi> how can I have fetchmail rewrite the "to" address?
[15:12] <everald> and could anyone with 13.10 tell me whether they've got xsane or simple-scan running?
[15:13] <everald> I can only as root.
[15:14] <BooeyOH> nevermind, I found it, thank you, it is here: http://serverfault.com/questions/73319/sftp-logging-is-there-a-way
[15:15] <machuanyu> hello
[15:15] <Patero-ng> does ubuntu server supports the spanish n with the tilde on top
[15:15] <Patero-ng> i know it does on desktop help please
[15:15] <jhutchins> everald: Iirc you need to add yourself to the group that owns the scanner device.
[15:16] <everald> jhutchins, which group? I've already added myself to "scanner".
[15:16] <Pici> Patero-ng: I told you the other day that it does.
[15:16] <jhutchins> everald: Whichever group the device that xsane is looking at belongs to.
[15:17] <everald> jhutchins, I think it's a bug in 13.10, but that's why I want to confirm whether anyone has it running/
[15:17] <everald> I haven't figured out the device yet.
[15:17] <Patero-ng> Pici: I'm pressing the keys but is not showing
[15:17] <Pici> Patero-ng: What keys?
[15:17] <jhutchins> everald: Remember that you need to log out and log back in for a new group to take effect.
[15:18] <Patero-ng> shift control +u00f1
[15:18] <everald> jhutchins, did that (well, using newgrp or sux)
[15:18] <Pici> Patero-ng: Locally or via an ssh session? and if the latter, how are you connecting?
[15:18] <Patero-ng> localy
[15:19] <machuanyu> hello  everyone
[15:19] <machuanyu> hehe
[15:20] <Patero-ng> I'm sure is not using gnome shell
[15:21] <siwica> I have some trouble installing ghc using apt-get. Could somebody take a look at the log (http://pastebin.com/PK7s5ed3) and tell me what the problem is? I am quite new to Linux!
[15:22] <Pici> Patero-ng: I don't think that getty supports that properly.  If you connect with a terminal emulator it should work fine.  See http://askubuntu.com/questions/23610/tty-unicode-problem
[15:23] <Patero-ng> Pici: I see
[15:24] <theadmin> siwica: Someone with admin rights on your system deleted /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-32-generic which causes the kernel package to fail configuration.
[15:24] <deni> anyone having troubel getting dnsmasq to read /etc/ethers? the way i see it /etc/init/lxc-net.conf is missing a -Z in the dnsmasq start command
[15:24] <theadmin> siwica: GHC installed succesfully, as a matter of fact.
[15:24] <deni> or /etc/dnsmasq.d/lxc isn't being read in any way? cause i have the 'read-ethers' command there
[15:25] <theadmin> siwica: You need to purge linux-image-3.8.0-32-generic and reinstall it.
[15:26] <youssef_> hello everyone
[15:27] <siwica> theadmin: ok that is weird. Its my personal laptop so I am the only user+admin. Cant imagine me deleting it by accident. Any guide on how to do the purging and reinstalling?
[15:28] <theadmin> siwica: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.8.0-32-generic ; sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.8.0-32-generic.
[15:28] <theadmin> siwica: Could also be a power failure or something
[15:31] <siwica> theadmin: thank you, that did the job! Glad there is irc to get help so fast... :)
[15:31] <youssef_> theadmin u can help me
[15:31] <theadmin> siwica: :) Glad it worked.
[15:31] <theadmin> youssef_: Uh, maybe, maybe not, depends on what the problem is.
[15:31] <youssef_> mhy prb is with UBUNTU 13.10
[15:32] <theadmin> Exact problem please?
[15:32] <youssef_> i don't find my patrition in poste de travail
[15:32] <youssef_> and CD/DVD lecture
[15:32] <theadmin> wat
[15:33] <theadmin> youssef_: Speak English please... If you can't, please go to #ubuntu-fr
[15:33] <theadmin> I can't into french.
[15:33] <everald> Ok, seems that one needs to be member of group "lp", not "scanner", to be able to scan with this scanner.
[15:35] <Azthal> Hi, not sure if appropriate place, but.. Is there any reason why Upstart would not respawn a crashed program while tracking correct PID?
[15:35] <MarcN> Which package does the /home/$user encryption?  It is an option at installation time.  I need to file a bug on it.
[15:36] <imorhi> ecryptfs
[15:37] <MarcN> imorhi, thanks.
[15:37] <imorhi> it's actually ecryptfs-utils and libecryptfs0 to be exact
[15:38] <dongie> i installed kernel-package on 13.04. however, dvb_frontend.h and other dvb-related stuff needed to build an out-of-tree kernel is missing. discuss.
[15:38] <DavidBrooke> can ubuntu tweak be used in ubuntu gnome? I noticed that compiz-core will be installed and mutter is used in ubuntu gnome
[15:38] <ikonia> dongie: what's to discuss ?
[15:38] <dongie> ikonia: i was able to do it in 12.04
[15:38] <Underbyte> quick question: what packages does ubuntu server install if you select 'Virtual Machine Host' in the Software Selection dialog during installation?
[15:38] <MarcN> imorhi, upgraded to saucy and now I can't have files > 4G under $HOME -- messed up my 41G VM backing file.   Silently!
[15:38] <dongie> i want to know why its removed and/or how do I get equivalent functionality as 12.04
[15:39] <sebokie> hello
[15:39] <ikonia> why what's remove ?
[15:39] <ikonia> dongie: what's the actual question ?
[15:39] <sebokie> I just installed Awesome WM
[15:39] <sebokie> how can I open a session?
[15:39] <somsip> sebokie: mod key and enter
[15:39] <dongie> ikonia: i cannot bulid an out-of-tree driver (dvb-usb device) because all the include files are missing
[15:39] <imorhi> MarcN, seems strange I haven't seen that before. ecryptfs shouldn't break on large files
[15:39] <ikonia> dongie: missing from what ?
[15:39] <sebokie> somsip, ok thanks
[15:39] <dongie> ikonia: THE KERNEL-HEADERS package
[15:40] <MarcN> imorhi, give me a few seconds and I'll point you to the big.
[15:40] <MarcN> bug
[15:40] <Pici> Underbyte: tasksel --task-packages virt-host gives me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6301286/
[15:41] <Underbyte> Pici: looks like it installs kvm/qemu
[15:42] <compdoc> Underbyte, I remember trying that once and it installed packages i didnt want. Now I just install qemu-kvm afterwards
[15:43] <imorhi>  MarkN, I believe your bug is this: http://goo.gl/P6Dsn1
[15:44] <Underbyte>  compdoc: well i'm actually attempting to install devstack, so i'm guessing it will have everything i need contained inside it
[15:45] <compdoc> Underbyte, give it a shot
[15:50] <ikonia> dongie: are they actually mean to be in the headers for the kernl you are using
[15:50] <ikonia> have you checked they are supposed to be part of the kernel you are using
[15:51] <dongie> ikonia: unless youre telling me that for some mysterious reason all of dvb stuff got rewritten between 3.5 and 3.8, yes, I would expect them to be in the kernel.
[15:51] <ikonia> dongie: it does get re-written, that's why modules don't work for every version
[15:51] <dongie> and yes, /linux-source-3.8.0/drivers/media/dvb-core/dvb_frontend.h
[15:51] <dongie> they're there.
[15:51] <ikonia> dongie: hence why I'm sayingcheck
[15:51] <dongie> this is from lixnu-source or rwahtever package from 13.04.
[15:52] <ikonia> dongie: so what's the problem then ? if it's in the source
[15:52] <ikonia> you've downloaded the package...and it's in the source.
[15:52] <dongie> ikonia: ??? on 12.04 its in linux-INCLUDES
[15:52] <dongie> which is stuff USERS install
[15:52] <MarcN> imorhi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1244710    <== nasty data loss bug
[15:52] <ikonia> dongie: 12.04 is a different kernel
[15:52] <ikonia> unless I'm miss-understanding what you're saying
[15:53] <dongie> what im saying is that 12.04 includes dvb-core/usb/etc INCLUDE files into linux-headers-3.5.0-wahtever
[15:53] <dongie> while 13.04 does NOT
[15:53] <dongie> even though they ARE in the full kernel package
[15:53] <ikonia> dongie: yes, it's different kernel
[15:53] <dongie> which no sane user is going to install or try to use
[15:53] <ikonia> dongie: things change between kernel versions.
[15:53] <ikonia> dongie: what are you talking about no sane user ???
[15:53] <dongie> ikonia: it makes it impossible to build out-of-kernel drivers.
[15:54] <ikonia> dongie: no, it means the out of source vendors have to keep up
[15:54] <ikonia> that's why modules can work in Version A but not Version B
[15:54] <ikonia> it's not uncommon
[15:54] <dongie> ....
[15:54] <dongie> are you just thick or are you totally not getting stuff
[15:54] <ikonia> I don't believe I'm thick
[15:55] <ikonia> I maybe missing the point of what you are saying, but changes of headers between kernels is not uncommon
[15:55] <ikonia> that's why the libc-headers project was tried and failed....
[15:55] <dongie> the headers didnt change
[15:55] <ikonia> dongie: then if they didn't change, what's the actual issue ?
[15:55] <dongie> they're NOT IN LINUX-HEADERS PACKAGE
[15:55] <dongie> like they WERE
[15:55] <ikonia> dongie: but you should be building against the kernel source headers, not the linux-headers which are user space
[15:56] <chro> anyone here uses netvibes ?
[15:56] <dongie> ikonia: huh.
[15:56] <dongie> im buildilng against wahtever the hell "kernel-package" installs
[15:57] <dongie> if you got better ideas, i'm all ears.
[15:57] <ikonia> dongie: right, so if you install the kernel-source-package you should get the headers from that kernel
[15:57] <dongie> ikonia: that package doesnt even untar the kernel
[15:57]  * Underbyte wonders if dongie's real name is Cliff Yablonski
[15:57] <dongie> it sticks a 90meg .tar.bz2 into /usr/src
[15:57] <dongie> how the h ell is that useful?
[15:58] <dongie> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/amd64/linux-headers-generic where can i see a history of files added/removes/etc in this?
[15:58] <ikonia> dongie that's not the source package - that's the source the package was built from
[15:58] <dongie> enlighten me then
[15:58] <kongthap> if i installed a program in /usr/local/ (adroid dev tool), do i need to setup some permission settings to run the program???
[15:58] <OerHeks> dongie, for kernel headers, use "  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)  "
[15:58] <dongie> OerHeks: thanks, i'm past that already.
[15:58] <dongie> "kernel-package" installs that.
[15:59] <ikonia> dongie: what is the full name of the kernel-headers package you are using
[15:59] <dongie> linux-headers-3.8.0-19                          install
[15:59] <dongie> linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic                  install
[15:59] <dongie> linux-headers-generic                           install
[15:59] <ikonia> dongie: ok, so linux-headers-3.8.0-19 should contain it if it's part of the source tarball
[15:59] <ikonia> dongie: if it doesn't you may need to log a bug
[16:00] <kongthap> the permission of /user/local/adt/ is "drwxrwxr-x" and the owner is my username
[16:00] <dongie> ikonia: ..
[16:00] <ikonia> dongie: don't know what .. means
[16:00] <dongie> < dongie> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/amd64/linux-headers-generic where can i see a history of files added/removes/etc in this?
[16:00] <ikonia> the change log
[16:00] <dongie> which is?
[16:00] <ikonia> which is what ?
[16:01] <dongie> im not clicking on every kernel version
[16:01] <dongie> and reading something
[16:01] <dongie> to find something else
[16:01] <ikonia> dongie: that's what you have to do - go through the commits to find where it was removed/added
[16:01] <ikonia> then the comment should (hopefully) tell you why
[16:01] <ikonia> must dash
[16:04] <jony_easyrider> when I try to run wxpic, it gives me the following error: ./wxpic: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.8.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:04] <jony_easyrider> I'm using 64 bit Ubuntu
[16:04] <jony_easyrider> on 32 bit it runs fine, please help
[16:05] <machuanyu> heelo
[16:05] <trism> jony_easyrider: probably need to: sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.8-0:i386;
[16:08] <jony_easyrider> trism, TY, it worked!
[16:12] <m3nd0> ls
[16:16] <esde> I figured out why punctuation symbols weren't working on the Windows 7 Guest. I tried the onscreen keyboard in ubuntu and i was able to type punctuation that way. My guess is that connecting to the host via teamviewer is in some way effecting the keyboard emulation to the guest.
[16:18] <lfaraone_> I killed unity-2d-panel because my window manager wasn't coöperating with it; is there a way to get my menus back in-app during the same session? I'm on 12.04 LTS.
[16:26] <gassho> =D
[16:26] <shengyu> gassho: =]
[16:26] <gassho> ;s;
[16:28] <ripthejacker> how can I create an Ubuntu USB key without using startup disk creator?
[16:28] <ripthejacker> I tried the disk creator and it crashes with sigsegvfault
[16:29] <esde> unetbootin is what i used in windows to setup a usb to install ubuntu
[16:29] <esde> damn keyboard. im 95% sure they have a linux version too
[16:30] <gordonjcp> ripthejacker: dd
[16:30] <ripthejacker> gordonjcp: what about the bootloader?
[16:31] <gordonjcp> ripthejacker: doesn't matter
[16:31] <gordonjcp> ripthejacker: the iso is suitable for just writing straight to a USB stick
[16:31] <gordonjcp> unetbootin doesn't really work very well
[16:31] <MapsRus> How do I search for file modified in the last three weeks?
[16:33] <ripthejacker> thanks gordonjcp, esde,
[16:36] <somsip> MapsRus: maybe... find /path -mtime 21
[16:37] <chro> anyone here uses netvibes ?
[16:41] <JoeyJoeJo> I made a custom init script for something I want to start at boot time. After the system is booted and I run 'service myInitScript start', it works. I ran 'update-rc.d myInitScript defaults' but the service isn't running when I restart my computer. I checked in /etc/rc5.d and the symlinks are there. How can I fix that?
[16:46] <FrankDux> hi
[16:47] <FrankDux> i have two monitors, and when i maximize flash in a browser in one, then click anything in the other, the flash loses full screen
[16:48] <theadmin> JoeyJoeJo: Ubuntu defaults to boot to runlevel 2, not 5.
[16:48] <everald> How can I choose a script of my own (or add command line arguments to existing program) when setting up a file association in unity?
[16:48] <theadmin> JoeyJoeJo: Also, it might be better to write an Upstart job.
[16:48] <everald> Or how can I make it appear in the list of applications to choose from?
[16:49] <kxtwo> Hey guys, every 3 distributions are LTS right?
[16:50] <everald> Anyone?
[16:51] <thnee> everald: how are you setting up the file association?
[16:52] <somsip> kxtwo: nope - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[16:52] <everald> thnee, I just use right click, "open with", "open with other application"
[16:52] <everald> That's in Nautilus I guess.
[16:52] <thnee> everald: ah yeah I think that's pretty limited too, perhaps try using Ubuntu Tweak
[16:52] <kxtwo> um somsip that validates what I said... lol
[16:53] <thnee> everald: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[16:53] <somsip> kxtwo: every 4th release is LTS. But if you got what you want...
[16:54] <kxtwo> symantics, not to mention you could have just said every 4th release instead of a url but thanks none the less :)
[16:54] <kxtwo> 12.04 it is
[16:54] <thnee> kxtwo: or you could have googled it in like 2 seconds
[16:54] <somsip> kxtwo: I could have ignored you but chose to help ;)
[16:54] <kxtwo> why google when I can come here :)
[16:54] <everald> thnee, hmm ok but why is this not in the Ubuntu repositories? I won't download an executable and run it like that.
[16:55] <thnee> yeah that's gonna get you far
[16:55] <kxtwo> I love the pretentiousness of irc'ers lol
[16:55] <thnee> everald: why the heck not? what's so special about Canonical's apt repos?
[16:55] <everald> thnee, man in the middle attacks
[16:56] <everald> or, trust.
[16:58] <thnee> everald: seems like you can edit the .desktop file for the target app http://askubuntu.com/questions/16580/where-are-file-associations-stored/16583#16583
[16:58] <thnee> in your case, perhaps create a new custom desktop file
[16:59] <iguano> http://www.theweeklypay.com/index.php?share=19844/
[17:01] <ralph_> hello is it normal that my GPU fan is spinning very fast with the radeon drivers? (just started using them, 3 screens on 1 card, FullHD)
[17:04] <supNow> ralph_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/116005/gnome-3-ati-fan-always-on/116045#116045
[17:05] <chro> after upgrading my eclipse is not booting. What could be the problem ?
[17:06] <Soltis> Hi. Nobody is alive on #libreoffice, so I hope I can get some help here. I have a bunch of Chinese documents I'm trying to convert from RTF->PDF; they display just fine when I view them on another machine, but the converted PDFs (using a headless instance of LO3.6 on Ubuntu 12.10) have all the chinese characters replaced with place holder squares. I have Chinese locales/language packs/fonts installed, and they show up with locale -a and fc-list r
[17:12] <thnee> Soltis: how did you transfer the document? can you md5sum it to validate that it is the same?
[17:13] <Soltis> thnee: The documents are being generated on the server where the conversion is taking place. Copying them to a local machine, and they display correctly. Viewing them in vim shows correct Unicode character escapes.
[17:14] <thnee> Soltis: still wouldnt hurt to just check the integrity of the file
[17:14] <Soltis> thnee: I've tried this with about 100 different files.
[17:15] <thnee> I see
[17:15] <SimPaw> Is there a way to make a customized live disk? That has my configurations and programs installed on, but "starts fresh" with each boot?
[17:15] <thnee> SimPaw: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ ;)
[17:16] <SimPaw> thnee: ha! a little more abstracted would be nicer :)
[17:17] <thnee> Soltis: have you compare export|grep LC on the differnt machines?
[17:18] <Trudko> Hi guys, I am trying to go full time on Ubuntu. So one of first things I did is that Installed Eclipse because I develop on Android. I downloaded 64 bit package from Android website(which have Eclipse and adb) I tried it and I got error right away. So i had ot install 32bit packages(lib32stdc++6) My question is ? how is it possible that I even ran into such a problem?
[17:18] <wood_quinn_> Has anyone here ever used 3jelly before?
[17:19] <SimPaw> Trudko: you have 64bit linux installed?
[17:19] <gordonjcp> Trudko: sounds like you're installing the wrong version of Eclipse.  You should be looking for a 64-bit version.
[17:19] <Trudko> SimPaw, I do have 64 bit Ubuntu
[17:19] <sjmikem> Anyone else have a problem with Chrome on SS where tabs get "stuck" until you drag them out of the window?
[17:19] <SimPaw> Trudko: ok, what errors were you getting?
[17:19] <Trudko> gordonjcp, well I downloaded 64bit package from android dev website
[17:19] <thnee> Trudko: uname -a
[17:19] <gordonjcp> Trudko: oh, sorry, nonsense
[17:19] <gordonjcp> Trudko: the ADK needs 32-bit libs
[17:20] <gordonjcp> Trudko: http://xtrahot.chili-mango.net/2012/09/installing-android-development-tools-in-ubuntu-1204-lts-64-bit/
[17:20] <gordonjcp> Trudko: ^ try that
[17:20] <Trudko> SimPaw, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13571145/android-adb-not-found
[17:20] <Trudko> and btw I do use 1304 not sure if that is relevant
[17:20] <Soltis> thnee: Yeah. On the other machine (Windows) they show up correctly, except for a couple characters which I believe are subject to a known bug (Chinese glyphs in a certain range aren't displayed properly)
[17:20] <gordonjcp> Trudko: shouldn't be hugely relevant
[17:21] <Soltis> thnee: So if I convert a document on Ubuntu, it's garbage; on Windows it's missing 2 characters.
[17:21] <thnee> Soltis: NOW you tell us the other machine actually runs a completely different operating system...
[17:21] <SimPaw> Trudko: Ah, so it's not eclipse, but android SDK problem
[17:21] <Trudko> gordonjcp, maybe this is stupid question on my part but is it problem for them to provide 64bit? I didnt have any such problem on Windows. I am asking this btw to not have some bad idea about Ubuntu.
[17:21] <SimPaw> Trudko: what version of that do you have?
[17:21] <Trudko> SimPaw, what do you mean by that?
[17:21] <Trudko> Eclipse?
[17:21] <gordonjcp> Trudko: no idea, it's annoying
[17:21] <Trudko> or ADt?
[17:21] <Soltis> thnee: Not really relevant to the problem at hand; the problem is NOT the document -- it's something with the Ubuntu machine I'm on.
[17:22] <Trudko> gordonjcp, hmm I worry that I will run into such problem later on and I dont want especially while working because I really do want to switch to Ubuntu
[17:22] <thnee> Soltis: it's relevant allright, how could you possibly compare any settings
[17:22] <SimPaw> Trudko: what do you see in /home/antz/Development/adt-bundle-linux/sdk/platform-tools/adb?
[17:23] <ripthejacker> need help , just installed ubuntu 13.10 and my pc looks like this
[17:23] <ripthejacker> http://imagebin.org/274731
[17:23] <Soltis> thnee: The Ubuntu instance is completely default; it's a headless machine. It's very probably something wrong with the font configuration; even though the fonts are showing up with fc-list, LO must not be seeing them.
[17:23] <Soltis> Or it's defaulting to handling them improperly.
[17:23] <ripthejacker> also there's another problem that's not visible , which is underscanning
[17:24] <ripthejacker> I have amd radeon HD 6450 card, and Caicos driver
[17:24] <nurow> Hello, I'm trying to edit a PDF that has some spanish text in it using LibreOffice Draw. The text looks fine in my PDF reader before editing it, but after I edit it in Draw, the Spanish language words are huge and span beyond their normal boundaries, overlapping with other words. Anyone know how to fix this?
[17:24] <nurow> I'm guessing it has to do with selecting the right character encoding, but I'm not sure how to do that?
[17:24] <Trudko> SimPaw ? what could I see there?
[17:25] <SimPaw> Trudko: The error is saying it's looking for files in that directory, but can't find them
[17:25] <thnee> Soltis: so did you try opening the PDF in any other program?
[17:26] <ripthejacker> please help , how do I solve this display issue
[17:26] <Trudko> SimPaw, well there were ther eproblem was that I had to install some 32 bit libraries. see answer to the problem
[17:26] <Trudko> btw I didnt post the issue but it was same as mine
[17:27] <Trudko> and yes error message is confusing
[17:27] <Soltis> thnee: Yeah, I'm viewing it in Foxit
[17:27] <SimPaw> Trudko: now I'm confused. What exactly is the problem you're seeing?
[17:27] <Soltis> thnee: And, by the way, no Chinese fonts are being embedded in the PDF at all.
[17:27] <ripthejacker> also the screen resolution is set to 1280x1024 instead of 1920x1080
[17:28] <kalaka> is there any key board shortcut to open file browser like windows +e
[17:28] <kalaka> i am running ubuntu
[17:28] <kalaka> 12.04 LTS
[17:28] <thnee> kalaka: hold down the Super key to see keyboard shortcuts
[17:28] <kalaka> i am running KDE right now
[17:29] <kalaka> thnee: KDE is very much similar to windows, UNity is also good, but it crashes very oftenly
[17:29] <Trudko> SimPaw, its the one asked in question
[17:29] <thnee> kalaka: I use awesome myself
[17:30] <Soltis> thnee: For fun, I opened them in LO; the characters all show up as the same junk character instead of showing up correctly.
[17:30] <kalaka> thnee: :D, you like unity, i like the looks
[17:31] <thnee> Soltis: Well, either you are missing some fonts, or you messed up the PFG
[17:31] <thnee> PDF even
[17:31] <Soltis> thnee: Nevermind. My mistake.
[17:31] <Soltis> thnee: I opened the wrong file; that was the one I converted locally.
[17:31] <thnee> Soltis: ofcourse, who elses would it be?
[17:32] <Soltis> So the ones converted on Ubuntu are still screwed up.
[17:35] <Liav> Hey, I was having some serious stability issues in the past 24 hours -- compiz was crashing a lot, but I also got crash reports from apt, bash, postgres, update manager, crash notifier, cron, nautilus, etc.
[17:35] <Liav> A couple of hours ago I reinstalled ubuntu-desktop and unity, system has been stable since then.
[17:35] <kalaka> i want to customize KDE, NOT COMPUter
[17:35] <kalaka> something like ALT+HOME
[17:36] <kalaka> should also work on nautilus
[17:36] <kalaka> or dolphin
[17:36] <Liav> I think compiz was the root cause and would like to file a bug report, but I'm not sure if it was, or what the next step should be.
[17:37] <Hackwar> hi folks, I recently installed ubuntu server with samba and now I got a little problem. I connect via WLAN from my workstation to the server and when I try to browse the fileshare while also copying files there, the whole thing more or less freezes up. Is there some switch that I should toggle to improve performance there?
[17:37] <Hackwar> some QoS thing?
[17:38] <sidewinder96> hey guys i need some help with using ubuntu and vmware
[17:38] <ademoglu> i need a application for my photos slide show like windows, any suggestion ?
[17:39] <bazhang> !equivalents | ademoglu
[17:39] <sidewinder96> im trying to connect but u i have a 64-bit iso file
[17:39] <sidewinder96> how can i make it work with vmware workstation 10.0
[17:40] <k1l> ademoglu: the eog (eye of gnome) is the standard picture viewer and got a slideshow
[17:41] <thnee> sidewinder96: you dont need to do anything to "make it work with vmware workstaion 10.0"
[17:41] <sidewinder96> thenee, then what settings should i chose?
[17:42] <thnee> sidewinder96: choose the appropriate settings for your environment
[17:43] <sidewinder96> thnee, This virtual machine is configured for 64-bit guest operating systems. However, 64-bit operation is not possible.
[17:43] <sidewinder96> This host supports Intel VT-x, but Intel VT-x is disabled.
[17:44] <sidewinder96> i keep getting this error
[17:44] <thnee> sidewinder96: so enable VT-x
[17:44] <sidewinder96> how can i do that?
[17:45] <thnee> in BIOS
[17:45] <sidewinder96> i know it is enable in my bios
[17:45] <ripthejacker> please can someone help  me to troubleshoot the graphics problem?
[17:45] <thnee> I'm ready to bet it is not enabeld in your BIOS
[17:45] <nightdrever> is there a way to have different wallpaper on different workspaces?
[17:45] <sidewinder96> alright give me a min ill shut down and re check :p
[17:45] <ripthejacker> http://imagebin.org/274731
[17:46] <thnee> ripthejacker: did you try turning it off and on again?
[17:47] <minimec> nightdrever: http://askubuntu.com/questions/75998/is-it-possible-to-have-a-different-background-for-each-workspace
[17:47] <ripthejacker> thnee: turning what on-off?
[17:47] <thnee> the computer?
[17:47] <OscarC> hi guys
[17:47] <ripthejacker> thnee: yes I restarted once after installing ubuntu
[17:47] <OscarC> can you tell me why dd is astonishingly slow? something like 3MB/s
[17:48] <thnee> ripthejacker: naturally I mean after the problem occurred
[17:48] <ripthejacker> thnee:
[17:48] <ripthejacker> thnee: Well I just installed Ubuntu 13.10
[17:48] <thnee> So thats a no?
[17:49] <ripthejacker> thnee: I restarted once after installing Ubuntu
[17:49] <whoever> hi all , i am tring to move my webbrowser from my main screen to the extended screen , but when i drag from main to extened screen  the siz of the widow that previously filled the screen  will not snap to the extend screen when i drag and hold
[17:49] <ripthejacker> actually twice, once with nomodeset, but still , it was this way
[17:49] <whoever> it wil snap back to the primarry display
[17:49] <whoever> can someone assist
[17:49] <Ubnoobtu1204> Hey, Quick Question. How do I install something I would apt-get, but its on a flash drive?
[17:50] <OerHeks> Ubnoobtu1204, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[17:50] <thnee> Ubnoobtu1204: is it a .deb?
[17:50] <ripthejacker> thnee: I'll try restarting once more
[17:51] <Ubnoobtu1204> its, uhh, firmware? I guess
[17:51] <thnee> Ubnoobtu1204: why do you think this has anything to do with apt?
[17:52] <Ubnoobtu1204> sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[17:52] <sidewinder96> thnee, you might have been right :p
[17:52] <sidewinder96> thanks for the help man!
[17:52] <thnee> ;) welcome
[17:53] <thnee> Ubnoobtu1204: why do you have this on a flash drive?
[17:53] <Ubnoobtu1204> thnee, OerHeks, Yesterday i installed 13.10 on a machine of mine that needs a wireless adapter to be working at the time of install.
[17:53] <ripthejacker> thnee: Hey restarted once more , but the problem is still there
[17:54] <thnee> ripthejacker: are you up to date on all packages? apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[17:54] <Ubnoobtu1204> so I am trying to make a startup cd with the drivers on it, because I can only connect wirelessly to finish what I have to do.
[17:54] <delinquentme> So. EOL packages ...
[17:54] <Ubnoobtu1204> which is then to get drivers for the video card that isnt supported by ubuntu
[17:54] <delinquentme> can these even still be acquired?
[17:54] <ripthejacker> thnee: I did update, but didn't update the packages, lemme try that
[17:54] <Ubnoobtu1204> and I'm a complete novice
[17:55] <delinquentme> I've got this  libjpeg8 and its (seemingly ) no longer avialable
[17:55] <uruloke2> hey guys, what is the smartest way to downgrade from ubuntu 13.10 to 12.04 while i have windows installed too?
[17:55] <thnee> Ubnoobtu1204: ok well if you feel you have the right .deb package, do what OerHeks said
[17:55] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[17:55] <mephr> Hi there, can someone explain what  movie_test[-grep("^[rm]t$", movie_test)] will do? I know that in principle it will remove everything that matches the grep argument "[rm]t$" in movie_test from movie_test itself.  But what does "[rm]t$" sound like in normal language?
[17:55] <Ubnoobtu1204> I missed it
[17:55] <OerHeks> delinquentme, yes you can, add old-versions to the sources, see the url
[17:55] <Ubnoobtu1204> oh yea, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[17:56] <Ubnoobtu1204> how do I join the !offtopic channel
[17:56] <OerHeks> Ubnoobtu1204, if that .deb is on a ntfs/fat32 drive, copy it to your system first
[17:56] <delinquentme> OerHeks, Ohhh so this is like " upgrade ubuntu "
[17:57] <whoever> the issse that i am have is the OP http://askubuntu.com/questions/131177/snap-to-full-screen-not-working-dual-monitors. is there a solution so that  snap will work correctly on the smaeller screen
[17:58] <Ubnoobtu1204> OerHeks, thanks, everyone is really helpful here. thnee
[17:58] <Ubnoobtu1204> !join offtopic channel
[17:58] <thnee> mephr: sound like? it's a regular expression
[17:58] <Ubnoobtu1204> !icrhelp
[17:58] <swordsmanz> i need a good bbs client
[17:59] <swordsmanz> for ubuntu xD
[17:59] <Ubnoobtu1204> !irc
[17:59] <Ubnoobtu1204> !guidelines
[17:59] <whoever> hi all is there a solution to the OP http://askubuntu.com/questions/131177/snap-to-full-screen-not-working-dual-monitors other then the one in the posted answer
[18:00] <whoever> or has someon found a way for snapping to word on the scondary screen
[18:00] <Ubnoobtu1204> !irc help
[18:01] <intrader> Hello all, I wish to upgrade to latests from 12.04. I don't know whether I need to first upgrade to 12.10, 13.04, 13.10, and then 14.04. The update manager is telling me that I can upgrade directly to 14.04. Is this correct
[18:01] <OerHeks> intrader. 14.04 is in pre-alfa stage now, join #ubuntu+1 for support
[18:02] <therazr> intrader: Don't upgrade yet. Wait until 14.04 is released in April
[18:03] <intrader> OerHeks, therazr  so a should ignore the update manager?
[18:03] <Ubnoobtu1204> how do I even use irc...
[18:03] <therazr> intrader: The update manager shouldn't be telling about that upgrade just yet.
[18:03] <therazr> intrader: What release does it want to upgrade to?
[18:04] <OerHeks> intrader, the update manager should not give you 14.04, as it is not out yet, unless you provoked the -d development option
[18:04] <intrader> therazr, OerHeks I 'provoked the -d development version through settings
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> therazr  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[18:05] <OerHeks> intrader, oke, then join #ubuntu+1 for support
[18:05] <intrader> therazr, it wants me to upgrade to 14.04
[18:05] <Ubnoobtu1204> !offtopic
[18:05] <gassho> imma chargin therazr 8O
[18:05] <therazr> intrader: You shouldn't provoke anything. From 12.04 you can upgrade to 12.10 and 14.04 (once it's released in April 2014)
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> intrader  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[18:06] <therazr> gassho: what?
[18:06] <gassho> =/
[18:06] <gassho> old meme ^^'
[18:06] <therazr> intrader: Upgrading to 12.10 now is pointless, so wait for 14.04 (at least until it reaches beta stage or something)
[18:07] <intrader> therazr, MonkeyDust OerHeks I will reset the setting of the update manager and wait till 14.04 is release.
[18:10] <OerHeks> intrader, good, although they are happy to help you in #ubuntu+1
[18:11] <intrader> therazr, MonkeyDust OerHeks when I reset the setting in update-manager, the UA offers 12.10
[18:11] <whoever> when i am loged out , how do i give the extended moniitor a backgroud instead of beng blank, using multiple monitors
[18:11] <OerHeks> 12.04 > 12,10 > 13.04 > 13.10
[18:11] <OerHeks> i would do a fresh install, the long way takes hours per distro
[18:12] <intrader> OerHeks, I will upgrade first to 12.10 - is this Ok?
[18:12] <kalaka> everytime i log in to KDE, Nautilus file manager opens, just before, nemo were used to open, i removed nemo safely, but now nautilus started to open, i disabled it from autostart,  how to stop that
[18:12] <OerHeks> intrader, sure
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> intrader  fesh install is faster, easier, cleaner
[18:13] <kalaka> anybody using KDE
[18:13] <therazr> intrader: Why do you want to upgrade?
[18:13] <therazr> If you upgrade to 12.10, nothing gurantees you that you'll be able to upgrade to 14.04 in safe way
[18:14] <aaronds> Hi, having a problem installing ubuntu 13.10 from USB. I get the boot menu, but whatever option I select I just see a white underscore flashing and nothing happens.
[18:14] <aaronds> I left it for quite some time and still... nothing..
[18:15] <herol3oy> Hello. Here I have a text file like this http://vpaste.net/04Xsd and now I want to make all the line inverse to be like this http://vpaste.net/HzHtd but I want to do it by VIM! How it's possible!? any idea?
[18:15] <topper4125> aaronds, did you verify your distro download (CRC)
[18:15] <intrader> OerHeks, MonkeyDust therazr I want to upgrade because I have red that 13.04 is faster and leaner and I read that I needed to first go to 12.10, then 13.04. Reason is that my system is showing ofter >80% cpu when doing  mondain chores
[18:15] <aaronds> topper4125: nope, how can I do that?
[18:16] <intrader> OerHeks, MonkeyDust therazr I want to upgrade because I have red that 13.04 is faster and leaner and I read that I needed to first go to 12.10, then 13.04. Mostly when displaying videos even in small window
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> kalaka  better just ask your question
[18:16] <thebishop> is anyone else seeing bugs in the top-right applet area?  it frequently becomes frozen despite the rest of the desktop working fine.  and then after a minute, it'll work again
[18:16] <topper4125> !verify | aaronds
[18:16] <thebishop> one time i forcibly killed gnome-settings while the applets were unresponsive and it crashed my entire desktop
[18:16] <aaronds> cheers topper4125, will check this out
[18:16] <therazr> intrader: I would recommend a fresh install of 13.10. Or alternatively, if Unity is too heavy, something lighter
[18:17] <Aleksander> Hello, how do I stop Network Manager in 13.10? There's no such service and I want to get my pidgin working with wvdial instead.
[18:17] <lpapp> hi, I upgraded a machine from 10.04 to 12.04
[18:17] <whoever> need som assistance secod monitor is disabled (blank screen) at login prompt , how do i fix this
[18:17] <lpapp> it went almost smoothly with one major issue....
[18:17] <whoever> i am not fiinding an answer
[18:17] <lpapp> after reboot, I did not get the internet working.
[18:18] <lpapp> ifconfig -a shows the eth0 with the usual IP address.
[18:18] <lpapp> resolv.conf seems to be empty though except the warning comment.
[18:18] <intrader> therazr, like which distribution and to fresh install does it not require formating?
[18:18] <lpapp> I can ping 8.8.8.8, but I cannot ping google.com
[18:18] <lpapp> I can also ping other machines on the internal network.
[18:18] <lpapp> what could cause the internet connection going haywire?
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> whoever  maybe you get in answer, if you ask a question, first
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> an*
[18:19] <therazr> intrader: Requires formatting yes, you can keep your personal data in /home. Which distribution I was thinking of using Xubuntu or Lubuntu for example. what's the specs of your machine?
[18:20] <supNow> my live cd version of ubuntu is asking me for a username and password to login?
[18:20] <kongthap> i just setup .desktop file for adt (android dev tool) Icon=/usr/local/adt/eclipse/icon.xpm but I got a very BIG icon, and i cannot be resize with right mouse click, where can i change the icon size???
[18:21] <jhutchins> lpapp: So it sounds like you're not getting a DNS server from DHCP.
[18:21] <intrader> therazr, a t61p Lenovo with 3G memory and 180G disk
[18:22] <therazr> intrader: Give me processor and graphics card
[18:22] <jhutchins> intrader: Make a backup of your data.
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> kongthap  run dconf-editor > press f > find icon ... or find zoom-level
[18:23] <herol3oy> Hello. Here I have a text file like this http://vpaste.net/04Xsd and now I want to make all the line inverse to be like this http://vpaste.net/HzHtd but I want to do it by VIM! How it's possible!? any idea?
[18:23] <kongthap> MonkeyDust, run from command line???
[18:24] <intrader> therazr, jhutchins a Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU T9500 @ 2.60GHz × 2 - the details screen is telling me it does not know which graphics
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> kongthap  yes, you can run any gui from command line
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> kongthap  or ctrl-f2 > dconf-editor
[18:25] <kongthap> MonkeyDust, thanks i will try
[18:25] <lpapp> jhutchins: yes
[18:25] <lpapp> jhutchins: not sure why.
[18:26] <lpapp> this is the only diff that showed up at the end of the upgrade, but I kept our local: http://pastebin.kde.org/p6mmitrbi
[18:26] <lpapp> I am almost certain this is not related.
[18:26] <lpapp> but what else? Why is resolv.conf empty except the warning comment?
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> kongthap  make sure you can revert anything you change, remember what you change
[18:27] <kongthap> MonkeyDust, OK :)
[18:27] <therazr> intrader: Make backups of your things. Then reinstall Ubuntu 13.10. Once 14.04 is out you can upgrade to 14.04
[18:29] <thnee> herol3oy: try #vim
[18:30] <intrader> therazr, jhutchins a Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU T9500 @ 2.60GHz × 2 - I found the graphics driver for nvidia was not activated. I just done so and will check with psensor. I use backup, is this sufficient?
[18:31] <herol3oy> thnee: i was there.. i tried to send this msg to the room but the room replied me :Cannot send to channel
[18:31] <herol3oy> ?
[18:31] <thnee> herol3oy: register with nickserv
[18:31] <herol3oy> thnee: how?
[18:32] <intrader> therazr, jhutchins I am restarting on account of graphics driver activation - see you shortly
[18:32] <thnee> herol3oy: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=freenode+register+nickserv
[18:32] <whoever> using dual monitors, second monitor is a blank screen until loged in> i would like it to share the same backgroud as the main monitor, can someone assist
[18:35] <lpapp> and change the name-server to your router's IP address as
[18:35] <lpapp> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[18:35] <lpapp> Now restart your computer and test again.
[18:35] <lpapp> but the file writes that do not change that manually !!!
[18:38] <whoever> how do i fix this, what setting to set in lightdm.conf file so the second monetor will have a background at login
[18:39] <lpapp> jhutchins and others: if I manually edit the resolv.conf it works!
[18:39] <lpapp> but as for reboot, it is empty!
[18:39] <whoever> hi all can i get some help with a dual monitor display? my secont monitor is blank until login and unity takes over
[18:39] <lpapp> why is the proper content not generated?
[18:39] <whoever> how do i fix this, what setting to set in lightdm.conf file so the second monetor will have a background at login
[18:39] <thnee> whoever: stop spamming
[18:40] <thnee> whoever: anyway is it really that important to have dual monitor at login?
[18:40] <lpapp> perhaps /etc/network/interfaces is lost
[18:40] <whoever> thnee: for my blind ass it is
[18:40] <thnee> whoever: as long as it's working when you are logged in, isnt that quit allright_
[18:40] <thnee> whoever: that makes no sens at all
[18:41] <whoever> therazr: yes it does make since , i told you i am visually fucked up
[18:41] <esde> ok weird issue. the orientation of my mouse pointer is inverted when i go between firefox and the desktop, i only noticed it after installing my-weather-inidicator, any ideas?
[18:41] <whoever> +-)
[18:41] <moppy> thnee, well it has to be fixed for stereoscopic displays (think stuff like oculus rift)
[18:41] <moppy> ^^ or in his case a vision issue, as he says
[18:42] <lpapp> "In 12.04 Ubuntu started using resolvconf to handle resolv.conf. It's resolvconf that reads the dns-nameservers option in /e/n/i. "
[18:43] <Shinobi> how can I get procmail to change the to header on an email?
[18:43] <esde> desktop cursor http://i.imgur.com/k2YdKST.png | firefox cursor http://i.imgur.com/namoWtT.png
[18:43] <that_nima> i'm upgrading 13.04 to 13.10 in a vbox vm, the screen lock is up and i can't bring it down, i can access a virtual terminal (ctrl+alt+F1) and see that the upgrade is still in progress (apt process) - the distro upgrade will halt for input at some stage. Any ideas to unlock or will i have to wait and see if i'm screwed...
[18:43] <thnee> whoever: if you don't mind my asking, what kind of visual impairment is bettered by dual monitors?
[18:44] <esde> It looks like the whole pointer changes and it's extremely frustrating
[18:44] <garcianc> Shinobi, aliases?
[18:45] <Shinobi> garcianc: I think I need "formail" as I am forwarding to another host
[18:45] <moppy> thnee, I would guess one screen is magnified
[18:46] <thnee> oh yeah that makes sense
[18:47] <thnee> whoever: if you don't get lightdm working, you could just skip it all together, and login via the TTY. Not that it's very handicap friendly, but you could at least configure it to show large characters
[18:49] <moppy> !vbutils
[18:49] <moppy> !vboot_utils
[18:49] <moppy> sorry
[18:49] <esde> Any idea why I'd have two different pointers when switching between windows? For example, desktop cursor http://i.imgur.com/k2YdKST.png | firefox cursor http://i.imgur.com/namoWtT.png
[18:51] <moppy> ubottu doesnt know packages in universe repo?
[18:52] <Rhinull> Hi there, I have OpenSSL installed and I'm attempting to install bitlbee from source, however it says "this script doesn't have detection code for OpenSSL." I presume I simply have to pre-define the location of OpenSSL's library; the problem is I don't know where it is. I had a look in /usr/lib but I don't know where I'm looking for. Can anyone help?
[18:52] <ripthejacker> thnee: I updated all the packages , still , the display is the same
[18:53] <ripthejacker> Any tips where I should look for clues for trouble shooting
[18:53] <ripthejacker> ?
[18:53] <that_nima> Rhinull: dpkg -L to show the files a package installs
[18:53] <thnee> ripthejacker: what is that exactly, is it the left side unity dock menu that is bugging out? or is it like a display render issue?
[18:54] <esde> huh. i rebooted and it the issue seems to have disappeared
[18:54] <ripthejacker> display render issue
[18:54] <thnee> ripthejacker: so the dock functions properly?
[18:54] <CaptainKnots> when i try to install 13.10, I get the option to use lvm and encryption, yet if I want to manually partition I can't seem to get the option of lvm
[18:54] <ripthejacker> thnee: yes
[18:54] <CaptainKnots> how do i get this to work?
[18:55] <ripthejacker> thnee: it just looks all weird
[18:55] <Vince42> I am running a server and my tmp directory has tons of mkinitramfs folders, which are not cleaned during reboot. What is the best way to get rid of all unnecessary folders?
[18:55] <ripthejacker> thnee: and during shutdown , you can  see something like TV static
[18:56] <thnee> ripthejacker: does it look exactly like that constantly? during login? during all programs?
[18:56] <ripthejacker> all the time
[18:56] <thnee> ripthejacker: so whats your graphics setup?
[18:56] <ripthejacker> I cannot improve the screen resolution, and the display is underscanning
[18:57] <ripthejacker> AMD radeon hd6450, Caicos,
[18:57] <that_nima> if the 13.10 distro upgrader is running in the gui is there a safe way to reboot the desktop manager or x server? (i'm using cinnamon)
[18:57] <ripthejacker> the underscanning maybe because of HDMI output
[18:57] <thnee> ripthejacker: I mean software+wise
[18:57] <ripthejacker> Ubuntu 13.10
[18:57] <ripthejacker> with unity
[18:57] <ripthejacker> version I don't know
[18:58] <thnee> No like drivers, configuration, the good stuff, obviously youre running ubuntu since your here ^^
[18:58] <ripthejacker> how do I tell?
[18:58] <ripthejacker> dmesg?
[18:58] <ripthejacker> logs?
[18:59] <ripthejacker> thnee: it's unity 7.1.2
[18:59] <CaptainKnots> when i try to install 13.10, I get the option to use lvm and encryption, yet if I want to manually partition I can't seem to get the option of lvm
[18:59] <CaptainKnots> how do i get this to work?
[18:59] <ripthejacker> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450]
[18:59] <moppy> is there a way to automatically remove packages installed with apt-get build-dep ?
[18:59] <thnee> ripthejacker: I dont care about the menu software, I'm talking about the graphics drivers
[19:00] <ripthejacker> thnee: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450]
[19:00] <ripthejacker> ?
[19:01] <ripthejacker> thnee: any more details?
[19:02] <ripthejacker> you want?
[19:04] <thnee> ripthejacker: sofware center > edit > software sources > additional drivers
[19:04] <ripthejacker> thnee: yes I have selected the first one
[19:04] <ripthejacker> the open source one
[19:05] <thnee> ripthejacker: try using the offical ATI one
[19:05] <ripthejacker> but then I'll need to install it everytime there's a kernel update
[19:05] <ripthejacker> is there any good article?
[19:06] <ripthejacker> dealing with this?
[19:06] <garcianc> CaptainKnots, are you installing from live CD?
[19:06] <that_nima> moppy: i can't think of a way - but if it ain't broke don't fix it ;) stray packages are normal aren't they?
[19:06] <thnee> ripthejacker: well that's another issue :) lets do one thing at a time
[19:07] <ripthejacker> thnee: yes but that would become a recurring issue.
[19:07] <ripthejacker> :(
[19:07] <thnee> ripthejacker: have you even tried finding any articles? there is lots of good information on help.ubuntu.com, like this one for exmplae https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[19:07] <CaptainKnots> garcianc: yes
[19:08] <CaptainKnots> garcianc: It puzzles me why it will allow me to do it as an auto setup but not manually
[19:08] <ripthejacker> thnee: I saw that ,but It's for old version
[19:08] <garcianc> CaptainKnots, I am guessing you could open a terminal and partition manually with fdisk before starting the install
[19:08] <ripthejacker> the documentation is not updated
[19:09] <garcianc> CaptainKnots, take a look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM
[19:09] <thnee> ripthejacker: it says the article was updated 2013-10-19
[19:09] <that_nima> interesting my problem fixed itself
[19:10] <ripthejacker> thnee: oh sorry didn't see the dates, it's just that , it has ubuntu 11.04 as the base case.
[19:10] <sidewinder96> hey guys just one quick question, i just installed ubuntu through vmware and im currently playing music but in some sections of the song, the voice is kind of muffled
[19:10] <ripthejacker> sorry for being noob
[19:10] <sidewinder96> does anyone know how i can fix this??
[19:10] <ripthejacker> thnee: thanks for the help
[19:11] <stevecoh1> What is the best place to get help with Unity problems.  I just installed 13.04 on two machines, one a fresh install, the other an upgrade.  Unity is DOG-slow on the upgrade, tolerable on the fresh install.  Everything else works, if I can find it but it takes forever in unity.  Every key typed takes like five seconds to appear.
[19:11] <stevecoh1> I mean every key typed in the Unity search box.  Other places, such is this, are fine.  Only Unity is messed up.
[19:12] <stevecoh1> askUbuntu has not had any information that helped.
[19:13] <hannez> jupiterbroadcasting
[19:13] <stevecoh1> I really don't want to do a fresh install, lots of valuable info on this beast.
[19:13] <moppy> stevecoh: This sounds like a lack of 3d acceleration on the slower machine. Are the GPU the same?
[19:14] <thnee> ripthejacker: yeah, actually reading it helps ^^ your'e welcome
[19:14] <stevecoh1> No, frankly the slower one is a better machine.  It's a 6 year old Dell Inspiron with 4GB of ram.
[19:14] <josmala> Moved from fgrlx to radeon, wine stopped working completely claims problems with openGL driver.
[19:14] <moppy> stevecoh1: What is the graphics chip, not the cpu or the memory?
[19:15] <stevecoh1> what's the easiest way to dig up that info?
[19:15] <josmala> err:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly (using GL renderer "Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV730", version "1.4 (3.0 Mesa 9.2.1)")
[19:16] <moppy> stevecoh1: I am not on linux at the moment, can't check if i'm right - can anyone else?
[19:16] <josmala> But tux racer works perfectly.
[19:16] <thnee> moppy, stevecoh1: sofware center > edit > software sources > additional drivers
[19:17] <stevecoh1> I think I found it moppy
[19:17] <that_nima> if you want gpu info `lspci` is all i can think of...
[19:18] <that_nima> in a terminal of course
[19:18] <stevecoh1> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV610 [Radeon HD 2400 PRO]
[19:19] <stevecoh1> thnee, been there, no additional drivers listed as available
[19:21] <Ionut> Hi, any ideas why I get this error: installation step failed an installation step failed. you can try to run the faling item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. the failing step is: select and install software
[19:22] <josmala> stevecoh1: Closed source drivers don't exist anymore. Try installing xserver-xorg-video-radeon AND  xserver-xorg-video-ati
[19:23] <ampw> does mumble 1.2.4 work on ubuntu atm
[19:23] <defaultro> hi folks, how do I check what port a program is running?
[19:24] <that_nima> stevecohl1: also just thinking about i've used software accel in a vm before and it shouldn't be that slow. you should check `top` or an activity monitor to see if there's something in particular
[19:24] <defaultro> or is there a tool where we specify the tcp port and output will be the program that is using it?
[19:25] <Patero-ng> I have a problemo
[19:25] <stevecoh1> that_nima:in top, what I am I looking for
[19:25] <sidewinder96> hey guys just one quick question, i just installed ubuntu through vmware and im currently playing music but in some sections of the song, the voice is kind of muffled  do you know how i can fix it?
[19:25] <stevecoh1> josmala what does it mean "closed source drivers dont' exist anymore."
[19:26] <Patero-ng> on ubuntu server, I'm running w3m with image support and sometimes when I'm on another user session like on alt 1 some images from alt 3 that's running w3m come up and I think that's anoying is there a way to fix it
[19:26] <thnee> stevecoh1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver ?
[19:26] <that_nima> stevecoh1: if there's one process constantly at 100% or so that might explain slow response
[19:26] <josmala> AMD stopped supporting radeon on fgrlx and if you used additional drivers before they don't work wtih modern kernels.
[19:27] <stevecoh1> I only used out of the box stuff before.
[19:27] <vlt> Hello. I'm running Ubuntu 13.10 and have installed the pkg cryptsetup. Any idea why the install process or a dpkg-reconfigure re-builds the initrd.img but doesn't put /sbin/cryptsetup there?
[19:27] <stevecoh1> never had to deal with this before.
[19:29] <that_nima> stevecoh1: so there's nothing in top or any activity monitor to suggest a hung process or something like that?
[19:29] <that_nima> stevecohl1: also have you tried other login modes? from the main login window there should be an icon top right of the dialog box
[19:29] <azerty33260> cc
[19:30] <vlt> How can I tell mkinitramfs to put /sbin/cryptsetup to the initrd.img file?
[19:30] <stevecoh1> but thanks, guys, you've given me a ton of good info to get to the bottom of this.  Why didn't I come here instead of wasting my time on ask ubuntu
[19:31] <Kurza> hello, I'm experiencing problems with installing ubuntu 10.04 on a very old computer. One box shows up when I try to click on install - http://i.imgur.com/zOfSpey.jpg and it says Boot loader - live-install, when I click OK it just returns me to the main menu. I'm booting from a CD.
[19:31] <stevecoh1> that_nima: when I mess with the Unity components, mouse over, click, etc. compiz goes up to maybe 4-5% of CPU, othewise nothing out of ordinary.
[19:32] <stevecoh1> that nima, no havent' tried other login modes, what might they be?
[19:32] <ampw> how do i disable proprietary software in softcenter
[19:32] <ampw> i dont want to see it
[19:33] <stevecoh1> I was worried when I saw 97, 98% of cpu on Id, but that's idle, I'm guessing, phew.
[19:34] <ampw> stevecoh1: its 97 98ish while idle?
[19:36] <stevecoh1> no, I think it means 97-98% IS Idle, no?
[19:36] <that_nima> ampw stevecoh1 yeah that means 2% activity 98% is idle
[19:37] <stevecoh1> that's what I thought.
[19:37] <stevecoh1> dmesg says : [drm] Initialized radeon 2.29.0 20080528 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0
[19:37] <stevecoh1> is that not the good driver?
[19:37] <josmala> That maybe the only good driver.
[19:38] <Patero-ng> on ubuntu server, I'm running w3m with image support and sometimes when I'm on another user session like on alt 1 some images from alt 3 that's running w3m come up and I think that's anoying is there a way to fix it
[19:38] <stevecoh1> Well it's no good for me.  And https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver says my card is fully supported.  So why in this mess?
[19:39] <that_nima> stevecoh1: right i just rebooted a machine - next to your name on the first login screen should be an icon
[19:40] <that_nima> the options will vary depending on what you have installed (i have options for gnome, ubuntu default, cinnamon, etc)
[19:40] <stevecoh1> ok, that_nima, let me reboot and try that.
[19:40] <that_nima> well log out should be enough
[19:40] <stevecoh1> Anything to get out of this tarpit.
[19:40] <stevecoh1> check back with you soon.
[19:40] <josmala> Logout is faster.
[19:41] <stevecoh1> k
[19:42] <vlt> Hello. What options to cpio do I need to build an initrd.img that 13.10's  default 3.11 kernel will read?
[19:42] <Dougie187> Does anyone know if there's a way to get "Shut down" in the HUD (Alt by default) again?
[19:43] <tozen> Dougie187: maybe aliases can help you?
[19:43] <Dougie187> tozen: I don't see how. Can you set aliases for the hud? I know how to do that for the CLI, but that's not quite what I'm looking for.
[19:45] <stevecoh1> didn't see any icons on the login.  But how about this?  "Sorry, Ubuntu 13.04 has experienced an internal error.  Executable path: /usr/bin/nautilus.
[19:45] <stevecoh1> nautilus crashed with SIGABRT in raise().
[19:48] <vlt> Hi. When I run mkinitramfs ... I get a warning from cryptsetup about missing line in /etcryptsetup but /sbin/cryptsetup isn't stored into the initrd.img. Any idea how to fix this in 13.10?
[19:52] <that_nima> stevecohl1: this is what i was talking about: http://linuxlookup.com/files/imagecache/800x600/ubuntu_11.10_login.png
[19:53] <that_nima> should be very similar to that - but clearly there are other problems if nautilus is dieing on boot
[19:53] <that_nima> that said i do get that error from time to time on my vms without major performance impact so i'm out of ideas...
[19:56] <Neurotoxin> help ,   i want to install ubuntu from a live desktop via usb,     when I type   sudo ubiquity ... the computer is busy for a minute, then nothing happens, not even an error message
[19:58] <gchristensen> Hi, in my preseed file I've added "d-i base-installer/kernel/override-image string linux-server" however, that causes issues with dependencies supposedly not being available. I've tried using us.archive.ubuntu.com and an internal rackspace mirror. Has anyone hit this issue before? I'm at a bit of a loss as to what is happening.
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> Neurotoxin  do you not see an "install" icon on the desktop?
[20:03] <Neurotoxin> yeah i see it and double clikcing doesnt do anything so i wanna try command line .(
[20:03] <ripthejacker> thnee: there was not much help in that article
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> Neurotoxin  right click > execute the icon
[20:04] <ripthejacker> Some people have reported that ubuntu works fine in radeon hd 6450 , and some ppl said it
[20:04] <ripthejacker>  it' s not working
[20:05] <nurow> Hello, I'm trying to edit a PDF that has some spanish text in it using LibreOffice Draw. The text looks fine in my PDF reader before editing it, but after I edit it in Draw, the Spanish language words are huge and span beyond their normal boundaries, overlapping with other words. Anyone know how to fix this? I'm guessing it has to do with selecting the right character encoding, but I'm not sure how to do that?
[20:05] <ripthejacker> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3334072
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> nurow  have you asked in #ubuntu-es ?
[20:06] <ripthejacker> anyone here use AMD radeon hd 6450?
[20:07] <vlt> !anyone | ripthejacker
[20:08] <ripthejacker> vlt: Ok
[20:09] <ripthejacker> I need help troubleshooting graphics driver issue. the card is Amd radeon hd 6450, using open source radeon driver
[20:09] <fossxplorer> Hi folks, as a long time CentOS user, i need to install Ubuntu LTS for a purpose. Browsing through ISOs precise LTS, there are many to choose from. I need 64-bits. Any tip?
[20:09] <moppy> fossxplorer, precise is the version number, then they have -1, -2, -3 which is the service release (probably want the newer one)
[20:10] <fossxplorer> Ok, so ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64.iso might be the right one for me?
[20:10] <moppy> fossxplorer, if you dont need the gui, takr the server edition
[20:10] <moppy> yes, thats right but that has no GUI
[20:11] <moppy> desktop one has the gui
[20:11] <moppy> if you need to customise the install for some weird hardware, you might want the alternate installer
[20:12] <fossxplorer> Ah, ok. I don't need GUI at all. I administer my servers through shell :)
[20:12] <paramjot> unable to connect to wi fi in ubuntu 13.04
[20:12] <fossxplorer> moppy, ok, great. Then i will give ^ a try :)
[20:13] <CypherRAJ> use window .. mr paramjot
[20:13] <fossxplorer> I would like to have a minimal install like do for my CentOS boxes
[20:13] <moppy> alternate installer i guess then
[20:13] <moppy> not 100% sure
[20:13] <CIDR> fossxplorer: Just use the mini.iso
[20:13] <CIDR> You can basically just install a base system + ssh then add what you want later
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> !mini
[20:13] <nurow> MonkeyDust, I can't speack Spanish :(
[20:14] <OerHeks> Alternate is no more, mini is available
[20:14] <CIDR> Any reccomendations for intel/xbmc/ubuntu ?  minimalish install?
[20:14] <CIDR> I attempted to just install ubuntu-desktop but it installs pulseaudio, and in xbmc I cannot select the right passthrough audio device.
[20:14] <fossxplorer> CIDR, yes that's what i want :) Link please?
[20:14] <CIDR> 15:13 < ubottu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based  (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:15] <jgraftastic> hey dudes, i'm a huge noob at ubuntu and i'd like to play lord of the rings online, any suggestions?
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> jgraftastic  it's more for #ubuntu-offtopic, i guess
[20:15] <therazr> jgraftastic: use wine/play on linux
[20:15] <moppy> why is mini not listed n http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ ?
[20:16] <michael__> \join #diku13
[20:16] <OerHeks> jgraftastic, read their manual
[20:16] <OerHeks> http://lotro.stratics.com/technical-information/installing-and-running-lord-of-the-rings-online-on-linux/
[20:16] <CIDR> moppy: Just grab the iso from the link.
[20:16] <jgraftastic> thanks!
[20:16] <schultza> this is annoying me. all my other computers do not have these 3 icons stuck on the desktop, but this one computer. the icons are (Computer, Home, and Trash). I'd like to remove them permanently as I can get to them through the launcher bar file browser or trash
[20:17] <Timvde> Hi. I'm now on 13.04 Gnome 3 Fallback. Is the package still in Ubuntu 13.10? If not, what will happen if I upgrade?
[20:17] <rostam> It seems there is a network interface(?) on my system that I was not aware:  ifconfig ax0   not sure what is ax0?
[20:18] <therazr> Timvde: Gnome fallback is in 13.10, yes. I don't know if it is an exact match to your current package though
[20:18] <Timvde> therazr: Actual fallback as it was, or the new "This is just Gnome shell with some plug-ins" one?
[20:19] <therazr> Timvde: Gnome shell with some plugins now, gnome fallback was dropped
[20:19] <moppy> schultza, there's some unity tweaking tools you can use to get rid of that, should be in software center
[20:19] <schultza> ive used them.. and its still there
[20:19] <Timvde> therazr: Figured as much :) I should test it out in a VM before upgrading then. But I guess it isn't compatible with Compiz anymore then? Because that would be a no-go in any case.
[20:21] <Ionut> hi, any ideas why I get this error: installation step failed an installation step failed. you can try to run the faling item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. the failing step is: select and install software (ubuntu 12.04 and 13.04)
[20:22] <schultza> desktop icons are "off" on unity tweak and the icons are stills showing
[20:22] <schultza> do i need to upgrade to 13.10 to fix this issue? this is odd, my other 13.04 desktops do have this issue
[20:23] <therazr> Timvde: gnome session fallback 3.6 is in the repo, but I would say you can't use it in 13.10 with gnome 3.8. I don't know if this is accurate as I didn't test that. If you can only use GNOME Shell, then no compiz
[20:23] <ampw> how do i download a song off youtube
[20:25] <OerHeks> ampw, look in softwarecenter for youtube downloader
[20:26] <ampw> thanks, lets see if they let me download as .ogg
[20:26] <fossxplorer> oh nice keyboard detection :9
[20:27] <OerHeks> amwp youtube is flash, so i guess you need to transfer it later
[20:27] <boern> how can i find out the bitrate from a mp3 file in "files" from ubuntu 13.10?
[20:27] <boern> is there a way to list that?
[20:28] <ampw> boern: did you check properties, right click?
[20:28] <test1> ampw: You can try youtube-dl from ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8
[20:28] <ampw> test1: thanks
[20:28] <boern> yes but for all files
[20:29] <OerHeks> test1, ampw, carefull with PPA's, they are unsupported here.
[20:29] <ampw> alrighty
[20:29] <boern> when i view the items as a list
[20:29] <boern> so that i can see it for all files
[20:29] <OerHeks> boern easy way would be your mediaplayer, it could show that info
[20:30] <boern> vlc too?
[20:30] <boern> i cant find something like that in vlc.. is there another player?
[20:31] <jhave> Hi
[20:31] <l337ingDisorder> I think I may have just bonked myself in a very serious way
[20:32] <l337ingDisorder> I was trying to free up space on my /boot/
[20:32] <jhave> i still got this error http://paste.jdh.dk/17, anybody there have an ide to solve it ?
[20:32] <l337ingDisorder> but
[20:32] <wagonboi> Why, when I try to rename a directory in via Winscp does it say that I don't have the permission, but when I do it through SSH I can do it using sudo? My account should have access to that directory since it is part of www-data
[20:32] <l337ingDisorder> instead of doing rm *47-generic
[20:32] <l337ingDisorder> i did
[20:32] <guntbert> !enter – l337ingDisorder
[20:32] <l337ingDisorder> rm * 47-generic
[20:32] <guntbert> !enter | l337ingDisorder
[20:33] <l337ingDisorder> and accidentally removed /boot/*
[20:33] <OerHeks> boern,  rhythmbox could, if yuo select quality in the menu
[20:34] <l337ingDisorder> so, having accidentally basically done rm /boot/* as root, is there anything I can do to fix my mistake, or am I doomed to reinstall?
[20:35] <blissi> !ops
[20:35] <blissi> Need to tell you unity sucks
[20:35] <l337ingDisorder> blissi, this is old news ;)
[20:35] <Shinobi> how can I dump one email from mbox to a text file?
[20:36] <l337ingDisorder> unity is the worst thing that has happened to ubuntu
[20:36] <genii> blissi: That's not a cause for a channel emergency call.
[20:36] <DJones> blissi: Thats all well and good, bit it works for most people, do you have a real Ubuntu support question?
[20:36] <IdleOne> blissi: please don't use the ops trigger for useless silly things like that
[20:36] <DJones> s/bit/but/
[20:36] <OerHeks> blissi no need to trigger the ops message, if you dislike unity, try dome other desktop
[20:36] <Sander^lap> Im unable to boot from a usb stick on a acer xc600. I have turned secure boot off, and made "removable device" the first boot option.
[20:36] <blissi> it's not fair, the ops trigger only tells you the rules for use AFTER you use it!
[20:36] <ccha> After installed a package (ie mysql-server), I want to remove everything relative with this package. aptitude remove --purge mysql-server doesn't remove /var/log/mysql neither /var/lib/mysql
[20:36] <DJones> !topic | blissi
[20:36] <Pricey> blissi: THanks, please keep me informed.
[20:36] <ccha> is there a way to really cleanup
[20:36] <guntbert> !msgthebot | blissi
[20:36] <Sander^lap> Any tips on what I can do?
[20:37] <OerHeks> l337ingDisorder, time to backup and reinstall i guess
[20:37] <blissi> doesn't factoid mean something that is believed to be true but is intact wrong?
[20:37] <blissi> *no fact
[20:37] <blissi> in
[20:37] <blissi> rt
[20:37] <genii> l337ingDisorder: Unfortunately, you're doomed to reinstall
[20:37] <FloodBot1> blissi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:37] <blissi> !ops
[20:37] <moppy> Sander^lap, have you verified the image on the usb?
[20:38] <Sander^lap> moppy, I have managed to boot from another pc with the same usb stick.
[20:38] <l337ingDisorder> OerHeks, I think so :( man.. what a blunder.. just one erroneously-hit spacebar
[20:38] <l337ingDisorder> hoping to heck i can salvage this without the need for a full re-install though
[20:38] <CIDR> I don't see why you can't.
[20:38] <Sander^lap> moppy, How do I verify an image on an usb device?
[20:39] <moppy> Sander^lap, md5 check it, i cant remember the command. someone here will know.
[20:39] <CIDR> You'll need to boot from a disc/rescue cd.
[20:39] <l337ingDisorder> is there any way to tell ubuntu to re-download all the files needed for /boot/ ?
[20:39] <CIDR> Create /boot, put the proper kernel/init image etc...
[20:39] <Sander^lap> moppy, yes. I checked it with md5sum
[20:40] <CIDR> then re-install grub properly
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> Sander^lap, There is generally a per-session boot that is outside the bios settings, I would see if there is one on this computer
[20:40] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, the grub dir is still there
[20:40] <CIDR> Yeah, but it needs to reflect the changes to /boot
[20:40] <Sander^lap> wilee-nilee, how do I do that?
[20:41] <intrader> Hello all, I plan to update my system to 13.10 as fresh install. I have a backup of /home. Is it possible to refresh the entire /home of the new system with that of the bckup?
[20:41] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, ok so where would I look for the proper kernel/init image etc? and what is etc? (I don't want to leave anything out, and while I'm relatively experienced with linux administration this is one area I haven't delved into yet)
[20:41] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, thanks btw
[20:41] <moppy> Sander^lap, can you cahnge the bios mode from EFI to legacy?
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> Sander^lap, On mine it is f12, where f2 is the bios, check the manual look on the web with the model, and per-session boot, maybe call the manufacturer, once you know it that is the key.
[20:41] <therazr> intrader: I think the installer in 13.10 will provide an option for you to maintain the current contents of your /home folder
[20:42] <therazr> But you can format the partition entirely too, thus eliminating those contents as well
[20:42] <strit> I need help with my .desktop files. I can't get the icons to show. (yes, I did make it executable)
[20:42] <CIDR> l337ingDisorder: Do you have a lice cd?
[20:42] <CIDR> ermm livecd ?
[20:42] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, no but I can download and burn one
[20:42] <l337ingDisorder> (btw this is for 10.04)
[20:42] <CIDR> Download and burn oen of the appropriate version.
[20:43] <l337ingDisorder> ok
[20:43] <l337ingDisorder> and then just copy the files from /boot/ on the cd into /boot/ on my hdd?
[20:43] <CIDR> Was /boot a seperate partition?
[20:43] <CIDR> no
[20:43] <bekks> l337ingDisorder: Try reinstalling the packages that put files into /boot/
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> therazr, The installer does not have a save home option, it has to be on another partition.
[20:43] <l337ingDisorder> bekks, which packages would those be?
[20:43] <CIDR> bekks: yeah that's what I'm getting to
[20:43] <CIDR> linux-image
[20:44] <bekks> l337ingDisorder: linux-image grub
[20:44] <l337ingDisorder> Yeah /boot/ is a separate partition
[20:44] <therazr> wilee-nilee: Is that so? Well then my bad :P
[20:44] <CIDR> You'll have to mount / and /boot, then chroot to /
[20:44] <CIDR> then do a apt-get install inux-image
[20:44] <CIDR> then check the contents of /boot
[20:44] <l337ingDisorder> both are already mounted, I'm actually using the system right now
[20:45] <bekks> apt-get install --reinstall linux-image grub
[20:45] <l337ingDisorder> so I'd just do sudo chroot /
[20:45] <Sander^lap> moppy, I changed it to secure mode off, as there is no uefi mode in the bios.
[20:45] <bodhi_zazen> Ubuntu will preserve the contents of /home if you re-install regardless if /home is on a separate partition or not - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[20:45] <CIDR> what he said ^
[20:45] <l337ingDisorder> oh
[20:45] <l337ingDisorder> ok
[20:45] <bodhi_zazen> Of course, you can always re-format it or what not
[20:45] <l337ingDisorder> great, no chroot needed?
[20:45] <CIDR> I messaged you the commands to mount the proper stuff and to chroot
[20:45] <jhave> is there a error on the reppo ?
[20:45] <jhave> http://paste.jdh.dk/18
[20:45] <Sander^lap> wilee-nilee, sweet. The boot meny was f12. Now im in Linux. How do I make it boot from ubuntu all the time?
[20:46] <l337ingDisorder> do I need to chroot before doing the reinstall of linux-image ?
[20:46] <bekks> l337ingDisorder: no chroot needed.
[20:46] <l337ingDisorder> awesome
[20:46] <l337ingDisorder> oh man
[20:46] <l337ingDisorder> lets hope this works
[20:46] <l337ingDisorder> lol
[20:46] <FloodBot1> l337ingDisorder: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> Sander^lap, Not installed yet right?
[20:46] <l337ingDisorder> (and thanks guys)
[20:46] <moppy> Sander^lap, as well as turning off secure boot, you can also try to change the firmware from EFI to BIOS. There's usually an option for that. It will mean you can't use hard drives > 4 TB or something, but removes all EFI issues
[20:46] <jhave> anybody there can help me ?
[20:47] <jhave> i got this error http://paste.jdh.dk/18
[20:47] <CIDR> Good luck.  I'll be around awhile.
[20:47] <l337ingDisorder> ok reinstall went according to plan..
[20:48] <l337ingDisorder> so in theory it's (hopefully) safe for me to reboot now? no further steps should be needed?
[20:48] <Sander^lap> wilee-nilee, only trying it out on from the usbstick so far.
[20:48] <l337ingDisorder> oh
[20:48] <bodhi_zazen> jhave: you will have to file a bug report on that one
[20:48] <l337ingDisorder> nvm, just did ll... still no files there
[20:48] <CIDR> WAIT
[20:48] <bekks> l337ingDisorder: triple check the contents of /boot/
[20:48] <moppy> where does ubuntu nautilus store its image thumbnails?
[20:48] <CIDR> You deleted /boot?
[20:49] <CIDR> and you're still on the system?
[20:49] <bekks> l337ingDisorder: do not reboot.
[20:49] <CIDR> STOP NOW
[20:49] <bekks> CIDR: sure.
[20:49] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, I was in /boot/
[20:49] <CIDR> I thought you had already rebooted
[20:49] <l337ingDisorder> and I did rm *
[20:49] <CIDR> Ok.  You're still on the box?  no need to chroot etc...
[20:49] <bekks> CIDR: He deleted it, and reinstalled linux-image and grub.
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> Sander^lap, on the usb only it seem that per-session is your best choice. I always use it my self anyway for usb's
[20:49] <CIDR> Yeah, if you did what bekks said check the contents of /boot now
[20:49] <bekks> CIDR: And I just told him to triple check the content of /boot
[20:50] <CIDR> yeah sorry, doing too many things at once
[20:50] <l337ingDisorder> I did, it's still empty (except the grub dir, which was unaffected by my screw-up)
[20:51] <CIDR> That's not right.  sudo apt-get install linux-image completes successfully though?
[20:51] <bekks> l337ingDisorder: Whats the entire output of "sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image"?`Pastebin it.
[20:51] <l337ingDisorder> apt-get install --reinstall linux-image grub
[20:51] <l337ingDisorder> that completed successfully
[20:51] <bekks> CIDR: You are missing the --reinstall for the second time now ;)
[20:51] <bekks> l337ingDisorder: Pastebin the entire output.
[20:51] <catherine>  /serveur euroserv.fr.quakenet.org
[20:52] <l337ingDisorder> Output: http://pastebin.com/AzJzXi1q
[20:52] <bekks> l337ingDisorder: And whats the output of "ls -lha /boot/" now?
[20:53] <l337ingDisorder> empty, except the grub dir
[20:53] <l337ingDisorder> (which was unaffected when I did rm *)
[20:53] <CIDR> is /boot mounted?
[20:54] <l337ingDisorder> the grub dir is accessible so I presume so
[20:54] <l337ingDisorder> it's listed in df -h
[20:57] <l337ingDisorder> you guys both silent hoping the other can find a fix? (I'm silent hoping one of you guys can hehe...cause i can't)
[20:57] <ElixirVitae> Hi!
[20:58] <l337ingDisorder> i guess a reinstall isn't the end of the world... but it seems like it should be fixable
[20:58] <ElixirVitae> Can I netinstall via wireless? Or do I need a cable connection the first time?
[20:58] <CIDR> It is fixable.
[20:58] <CIDR> l337ingDisorder: I'm just not sure why /boot is still empty
[20:58] <Sander^lap> wilee-nilee, ah. OK. So when I install it side by side on the disk.. then it will auto boot into ubuntu?
[20:58] <l337ingDisorder> would it maybe be worth doing apt-get remove linux-image
[20:58] <l337ingDisorder> and then installing fresh?
[20:59] <CIDR> I don't see what it can hurt
[20:59] <l337ingDisorder> true enough
[20:59]  * l337ingDisorder tries
[20:59] <l337ingDisorder> still empty
[20:59] <CIDR> But the --reinstall should work...  linux-image should install vmlinuz, initrd, system.map etc..
[20:59] <CIDR> pastebin the output of /boot
[20:59] <CIDR> ermm of mount
[21:00] <l337ingDisorder> ?
[21:00] <l337ingDisorder> oh
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> Sander^lap, That is the goal, uefi installs can be a bit more work is all, take a look at this link and another I will have the bot give you. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[21:00] <l337ingDisorder> http://pastebin.com/17SY14hv
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Sander^lap
[21:00] <CIDR> hrmm
[21:01] <CIDR> umount /boot then do a ls /boot see what's in there if anything
[21:01] <l337ingDisorder> umount: /boot: device is busy.
[21:01] <CIDR> cd to / first
[21:02] <l337ingDisorder> ok fully empty dir now
[21:02] <l337ingDisorder> mounted it back, same results - empty save the grub dir
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> Sander^lap, Some still have a grub boot problem and it can be fixed with the bootrepair app, or help from others to get it worked out, uefi is a hit and miss in some cases it seems, I am not really your best help here but for links really.
[21:02] <dfvlabutte> How to set font in normal template ABIWORD?
[21:02] <CIDR> what's in the grub directory?
[21:03] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, the following: http://pastebin.com/W7Lxbvu1
[21:03] <dfvlabutte> How to I change default font in ABIWORD
[21:04] <CIDR> Interesting it lists a kernel there etc...
[21:05] <bodhi_zazen> dfvlabutte: since your google is broken - http://www.abisource.com/wiki/FaqDefaultFont
[21:05] <dfvlabutte> HELLO does anyone know how to change default font in Abiword?
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> dfvlabutte, When writing it in the top panel, it wont default anything you open it with.
[21:06] <dfvlabutte> Thank you very much
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> it"s
[21:07] <CIDR> I just don't udnerstand why there's no vmlinuz or init in /boot
[21:07] <Ntemis> even though my kernel is the latest my os reports wrong service pack
[21:07] <Ntemis> any help?
[21:08] <cgt> Is it safe to use the nvidia 319 driver (currently using nvidia-current, which seems to be 304)
[21:08] <Jordan_U> CIDR: re-installing linux-image just re-installs the virtual package, which does effectively nothing. You need to re-install the specific kernel package.
[21:08] <CIDR> Ahhh well there you go l337ingDisorder
[21:08] <bodhi_zazen> manually install the kernel
[21:08] <bodhi_zazen> download the .deb
[21:09] <bodhi_zazen> mkdir kernel , dpkg -k kernel.deb kernel
[21:09] <Ntemis> my os reports Ubuntu Linux 12.04.2 but it should report Ubuntu Linux 12.04.3 any fix?
[21:09] <bodhi_zazen> manually copy the kernel and initrd to /boot, update grub
[21:09] <Lyut> Hey everyone, I was wondering if anybody knows about installing Windows as a dual boot after installing Ubuntu?
[21:09] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR & Jordan_U, ok can you provide any guidance on that? sry if I'm being a drag hehe, just want to make sure I do this right
[21:09] <Ntemis> kernel is ok
[21:09] <Ntemis> latest
[21:09] <CIDR> What's the output of uname -a ?
[21:10] <l337ingDisorder> Linux unicron 2.6.32-50-generic #112-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 9 20:28:23 UTC 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:10] <Ntemis> Linux D525NAS 3.5.0-42-generic #65~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 2 20:57:18 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:10] <bodhi_zazen> l337ingDisorder: take a look at what I gave you ^^
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> Ntemis, That is the 12.04.2 kernel
[21:10] <CIDR> l337ingDisorder: apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.32-50-generic
[21:10] <Ntemis> what? no!
[21:11] <Ntemis> i have the same kernel on my desktop and is 12.04.3
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> Ntemis, Just a stack thing, you have all the latet except for the raring kernel.
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> latest*
[21:11] <l337ingDisorder> bodhi_zazen, thanks -- when you say mkdir kernel do you specifically mean /kernel or would it be /boot/kernel/ ?
[21:11] <Ntemis> update/upgrade so i should
[21:11] <l337ingDisorder> oh
[21:11] <l337ingDisorder> will try that CIDR
[21:11] <Ntemis> and dist-upgrade brings nothing
[21:12] <l337ingDisorder> okaaay.. downloadin linux-image generic
[21:12] <l337ingDisorder> this looks promising
[21:12] <Ntemis> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:12] <Ntemis> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[21:12] <Ntemis> O.O
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> Ntemis, Read very carefully and be fully backed up , a clone would be the best in my opinion. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[21:13] <Ntemis> this is a server
[21:13] <l337ingDisorder> uh oh
[21:13] <bodhi_zazen> l337ingDisorder: do you know what files to copy to /boot ?
[21:13] <Lyut> Has anybody tried installing Windows after Ubuntu and using EasyBCD to restore Grub before?
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> Ntemis, Please don;t just post here just because you feel you can it feels the channel up and keep it in one set.
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> fills*
[21:14] <CIDR> l337ingDisorder:  ?
[21:14] <l337ingDisorder> bodhi_zazen, no..
[21:14] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, http://pastebin.com/0VKjwheT
[21:15] <bodhi_zazen> Lyut: there are several methods to restoring grub after windows, pick one and ask if you have a problem with one of the Ubuntu tools such as boot-repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> Lyut, You don't need to, that just adds a 3rd bootloader grub will take care of it, just needs reloading to the mbr, if this is a msdos partitioning setup.
[21:15] <CIDR> That's because there's already an initrd.img in /boot/grub
[21:15] <CIDR> That's ok.
[21:15] <l337ingDisorder> pl
[21:15] <l337ingDisorder> ok
[21:15] <CIDR> pastebin /boot now
[21:16] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, http://pastebin.com/bcjF5G2r
[21:16] <vlt> Hello. I installed Ubuntu 13.10 and the pkg cryptsetup but for strange reasons it doesn't find its way to the initrd.img.  Any idea what has changed in 13.10?
[21:16] <CIDR> More better
[21:16] <l337ingDisorder> looking good so far
[21:16] <Ntemis> wilee-nilee: Thank you , now is clear what i need to do!
[21:16] <coms> Does it hang right after grub vlt?
[21:16] <CIDR> Should be good to go
[21:16] <l337ingDisorder> ok..
[21:16] <vlt> coms: What?
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> Ntemis, Cool, goo luck. ;)
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> good*
[21:16] <Ntemis> And why am stuck at 12.04.2 :D
[21:17] <bodhi_zazen> CIDR: update grub (just to be sure)
[21:17] <coms> \
[21:17] <vlt> coms: Does what hang?
[21:17] <coms> the boot process
[21:17] <coms> cause i'm having the same problem
[21:17] <Adam_Johns> I have been using backbox happily for a few weeks now but today when I booted I noticed all my window borders had disappeared so now I can't minimize, maximize etc. Thoughts?
[21:17] <l337ingDisorder> fingers crossed heheh... gonna reboot, if I'm not back in here with thank-you's I'll be poppin' in a liveCD heh
[21:17] <Lyut> Thanks for the help, bodhi_zazen and wilee-nilee
[21:17] <l337ingDisorder> bodhi_zazen, I'll do that first just for good measure
[21:18] <vlt> coms: The boot process asks me for my cryptsetup passphrase but that fails because there's no /sbin/cryptsetup in the initramfs.
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Adam_Johns, Is this a backbox OS?
[21:18] <bodhi_zazen> probably not needed l337ingDisorder , but will not hurt
[21:18] <Adam_Johns> wilee-nilee, Yes friend.
[21:18] <OerHeks> Adam_Johns, blackbox is not supported here.
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> Adam_Johns, Cool, try ##linux, this is ubuntu support is all, you have to be registered to go to that channel isall.
[21:19] <l337ingDisorder> bodhi_zazen, I did apt-get update
[21:19] <vlt> coms: When I generate the initrd.img (by invoking dpkg-reconfigure cryptsetup or mkinitramfs) I even get a short msg that it's cryptsetup's turn now ... but without copying the needed files to the initrd.
[21:19] <tcgden> just set my 7 yo son up with my old Acer and Lubuntu, he loves it
[21:19] <l337ingDisorder> is there a way to tell it to update grub specifically?
[21:19] <bodhi_zazen> any errors from that l337ingDisorder ?
[21:19] <Adam_Johns> I realise that but was told it was an ubuntu base so thought I would try, Sorry for the mistake.
[21:19] <bodhi_zazen> sudo update-grub
[21:20] <OerHeks> Adam_Johns, try #backbox irc official channel on irc.autistici.org
[21:20] <l337ingDisorder> no errors
[21:20] <l337ingDisorder> ok
[21:20] <l337ingDisorder> so in theory I should be good to go for a reboot now... (?)
[21:20] <bodhi_zazen> l337ingDisorder: you should be good to go then, does not appear you have any residual problem with apt or grub
[21:20] <CIDR> Ineed.
[21:20] <l337ingDisorder> ok here goes nothin
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> Adam_Johns, This appears to be a backbaox irc channel I see none on freenode. http://irc.lc/autistici/backbox/
[21:21] <l337ingDisorder> (and in case I don't make it back, thanks for the help)
[21:21]  * l337ingDisorder holds his breath and plunges under water
[21:21] <cgt> uname says that I am running kernel version 3.11.0-12-generic (on saucy). Is this equivalent kernel 3.11.6 or is it actually 3.11.0?
[21:21] <vlt> Is /sbin/cryptsetup still supposed to be installed to initrd.img automatically in Ubuntu 13.10?
[21:21] <Ntemis> wilee-nilee: the picture in link shows that i must be on 12.04.3 to be able to migrate to rarring HWE
[21:21] <vlt> (+ the needed libs of course)
[21:22] <bodhi_zazen> vlt: should be, how did you install / set up LUKS?
[21:22] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: I installed the pkg cryptsetup via apt
[21:22] <CIDR> Alright.  This is driving me nuts. I have ubuntu 13.10 installed, and xbmc 12.2 installed.  In XBMC I only have Defaults (Pulseaudio) for audio output available.  If I remove/kill pulse XBMC has the right passthtrough devices, but then no sound works in the gui/web broswer/ etc...  How do I either get ubuntu to work with only Alsa, OR make pulseaudio not take over the audio hardware completely?
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> Ntemis, If it was 12.04.3 you would have it already I believe, I installed it and it was the raring kernel.
[21:22] <bodhi_zazen> vlt: so you set up LUKS manually ?
[21:23] <Ntemis> wilee-nilee: can i do this? from 12.04.2 :: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-rarring xserver-xorg-lts-rarring libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-rarring
[21:23] <bodhi_zazen> rather then during installation ?
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> Ntemis, On a server it does not really matter anyway really.
[21:23] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: Yes, the device was already a LUKS device. What do I need to do to let /sbin/cryptsetup appear in the initrd.img?
[21:23] <Ntemis> i know but... i stay on 12.04.2? no way!!
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> Ntemis, Are you backed up?
[21:23] <Ntemis> nope
[21:24] <Ntemis> any reported issues?
[21:24] <bodhi_zazen> vlt: rebuild the initrd, can you boot it from an old kernel ?
[21:24] <ozbrk> Guys I need help I have dozens of SSL errors with Arora
[21:24] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: I rebuilt it over and over.
[21:24] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: No cryptsetup
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> Ntemis, All it is, is a kernel stack, hardly important, and all I can say is if you really care image/clone it ad follow the instruction in the link.
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> and*
[21:25] <bodhi_zazen> vlt: how did you rebuild it ?
[21:25] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: I tried mkinitramfs and dpkg-reconfigure.
[21:25] <Ntemis> wilee-nilee: with the quantal cmd?
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> Ntemis, I can't help you here, I would if I knew you were backed up honestly.
[21:26] <Ntemis> is my risk
[21:26] <pabdou> hi at the momemnt i have a linux backuppc that i am looking to configure and connect to all machines in the building if anyone will be able to tell me what will be the procedures to do that
[21:26] <bodhi_zazen> vlt: try update-initramfs
[21:26] <Ntemis> and i have a lot of gb on this so i cant backup -> no space
[21:26] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: Thanks. brb
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> Ntemis, WE see to many people here who do not back up and spend days on this stuff, when a simple clone would fix it.
[21:27] <Ntemis> clone what? i can always bootup the old kernel
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> Ntemis, You have your cart about 10 mile in front of our horse then if you have no room.
[21:28] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> am using ecryptfs, my disk started going bad, i was able to recover all of .ecryptfs and part of .Private .. Would that make it to where i cant mount what i recovered
[21:28] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: Nope. When I look into the generated initrd cpio archive there's no cryptsetup binary (nor libs)
[21:28] <Ntemis> clear and out, am staying on 12.04.2 for now
[21:28] <bodhi_zazen> is cryptsetup installed ?
[21:29] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> yes, i installed it all back
[21:29] <cgt> uname says that I am running kernel version 3.11.0-12-generic (on saucy). Is this equivalent kernel 3.11.6 or is it actually 3.11.0?
[21:29] <bodhi_zazen> is cryptsetup in I think /usr/share/initramfs/hooks?
[21:30] <ikonia> cgt: 3.11.0 - as it says in the title
[21:30] <bodhi_zazen> did you update the correct kernel image ?
[21:30] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> that file dont exist
[21:30] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> you think wrong
[21:30] <cgt> ikonia: I figured, but why wouldn't Ubuntu provide updated versions of k3.11?
[21:30] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: Yes, cryptsetup is installed and works.
[21:31] <ikonia> cgt: why would they unles there is something needed
[21:31] <bodhi_zazen> sounds like a bug report then
[21:31] <bodhi_zazen> I can tell you how to manually add cryptsetup to the initramfs ;)
[21:32] <cgt> ikonia: The updates are released because they are needed, not just because they can...
[21:32] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> its in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/
[21:32] <ikonia> cgt: who said ?
[21:32] <cgt> ikonia: look at the changelog
[21:32] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: I get a warning from update-initramfs "cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab for crypt". I know this warning from earlier Ubuntu versions but that hasn't been a problem. And I know that at least _something_ happens with cryptsetup during the creation.
[21:32] <ikonia> cgt: that doesn't mean they are "needed"
[21:32] <ikonia> cgt: they can't update to every minor kernel bump, the workload would be through the roof
[21:32] <ikonia> it's not realistic
[21:33] <bodhi_zazen> so post /etc/cryptsetup
[21:33] <bodhi_zazen> and the full error message
[21:33] <cgt> ikonia: Why would it be "through the roof"?
[21:33] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: There's no error message.
[21:33] <bodhi_zazen> the warning
[21:33] <ikonia> cgt: minor kernel version bumps happen quite quickly, they would need constant rebuilds and testing
[21:33] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  bodhi_zazen: actually its the same system install and i had everything on an external drive, and it droped and started going bad, and what i coud recover i put back in the home folder
[21:33] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: /etc/cryptsetup is empty.
[21:33] <bodhi_zazen> and /etc/crypttab, lol
[21:34] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: "cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab for crypt -"
[21:34] <bodhi_zazen> can you pastebin the contents of /etc/crypttab
[21:34] <cgt> ikonia: The changes are usually minor, it should require sa extensive testing as major versions
[21:34] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: /etc/crypttab is empty (except for the commented header line)
[21:34] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> # <target name> <source device>         <key file>      <options>
[21:34] <cgt> *shouldn't
[21:34] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> thats all thats in crypttab
[21:35] <ikonia> cgt: it's still testing,
[21:35] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> should it be mounted while doing this?
[21:35] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  bodhi_zazen? ^
[21:35] <cgt> ikonia: Sure, but it can't be that much. Minor kernel versions aren't supposed to break things.
[21:36] <ikonia> cgt: the test cycle would still be a lot
[21:36] <cgt> ikonia: it's just minor fixes. LOTS of bugfixes
[21:36] <ikonia> cgt: no distro does this though
[21:36] <bodhi_zazen> Add a line for your root device
[21:36] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> what should it be
[21:36] <bodhi_zazen> format is "<name>  <device>  none"
[21:36] <bodhi_zazen> name is UUID= the drive UUID (blkid)
[21:36] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> not following
[21:37] <bodhi_zazen> and cryptsetup likdUUID <device> will give the devide
[21:37] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> its back in the home user folder now
[21:38] <bodhi_zazen> example - luks       UUID=2505567a-9e27-4efe-a4d5-15ad146c258b
[21:38] <HeathHayle> How do I see if a usb wifi is detected correctly in ubuntu?
[21:38] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  bodhi_zazen can u im me so other chat dont keep scrolling
[21:41] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: How to add cryptsetup (and all needed lib files) to initrd manually?
[21:41] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: I know how to inflate an old initrd and how to create a new initrd.img (gz) file.
[21:42] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: I just don't know ehich files to put where.
[21:42] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: And btw: There's no cryptsetup file in /usr/share/inintramfs-tools/hooks
[21:43] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: There's a cryptroot but not a generic cryptsetup script.
[21:44] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, didn't work :(
[21:44] <l337ingDisorder> am now on a liveCD
[21:44] <l337ingDisorder> hang on, I'll pastebin what it says when I try to boot now
[21:45] <CIDR> Hemm
[21:46] <l337ingDisorder> http://pastebin.com/dMbaKJB0
[21:46] <jgraftastic> err:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo The Mesa OpenGL driver is using software rendering, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly
[21:46] <jgraftastic> anybody know how to fix this? its for lord of the rings online
[21:46] <HeathHayle> Any ideas?
[21:46] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, bodhi_zazen: This comes up when I boot: http://pastebin.com/dMbaKJB0
[21:46] <bodhi_zazen> vlt: I think your problem is with ecryptfs, and not LUKS, thus you are barking up the wrong tree
[21:46] <CajunTechie> Hey everyone. Quick question: how do I get in touch with the folks at developer.ubuntu.com? I need to upload a new version of my application and it keeps giving me a 400 error.
[21:47] <CIDR> hrmm
[21:47] <CIDR> that's weird, and you did do the grub-update
[21:47] <l337ingDisorder> ya
[21:47] <l337ingDisorder> it threw no errors
[21:47] <CIDR> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1511863&page=3   Try the steps on post #22
[21:47] <bodhi_zazen> you on a live CD l337ingDisorder ?
[21:47] <l337ingDisorder> bodhi_zazen, yeah
[21:48] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, thanks will check that
[21:48] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: There's no ecryptfs onvolved here.
[21:48] <vlt> *involved
[21:48] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: Why did you think ecryptfs?
[21:48] <Pyro_Killer> tally ho chaps, i have installed ubuntu minimalist, and the i installed gnome fallback on top of it, however the GUI does not start on startup, how do i start the gui, startx doesn't work
[21:50] <bodhi_zazen> vlt: mkdir ~/initrd
[21:51] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: done
[21:51] <bodhi_zazen> cd
[21:51] <CygnusS> Pyro_Killer: try service lightdm restart
[21:51] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, hit a snag at the very first step... When doing the first code snippet I get this output: mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'
[21:52] <Pyro_Killer> CygnuS: tried it, doesn't work
[21:52] <HeathHayle> Any ideas anyone?
[21:52] <bodhi_zazen> lzma -dc -S .lz /boot/your_initrd.lz | cpio -imvd --no-absolute-filenames
[21:52] <bodhi_zazen> cp /sbin/cryptsetup sbin/
[21:52] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, (the system is running on a RAID-1 array set up with mdadm
[21:52] <Pyro_Killer> CygnuS: this is ofdfashioned gnome on 12.04.3
[21:52] <bekks> l337ingDisorder: you even had a software RAID? that would have been important before...
[21:52] <bodhi_zazen> find . | cpio --quiet --dereference -o -H newc | lzma -7 > ../custom.initrd.lz
[21:53] <CIDR> Ohhhhhh
[21:53] <CIDR> That would of been important to know
[21:53] <bodhi_zazen> then cp your "custom.initrd.lz" to boot (make a back up of the old)
[21:53] <l337ingDisorder> yeah sorry, I didn't even remember until just now
[21:53] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: But the libs are still missing
[21:53] <CIDR> is /boot on both disks?
[21:53] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: Don't I nee the hook function copy_exec?
[21:54] <vlt> *need
[21:54] <l337ingDisorder> not sure..
[21:54] <bodhi_zazen> no, and I do not think you need much libs
[21:54] <bodhi_zazen> vlt: http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/initramfs/
[21:54] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, is there an easy way for me to find out?
[21:54] <mydog2> hi.. trying to install php-zts but can't seem to find it - apt-get install php-zts
[21:54] <bodhi_zazen> vlt: and you should file a bug report to see if you can fix the underlying problem
[21:55] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: When I trie dto boot with only /sbin/cryptsetup it complained about missing libcryptsetup.so.4.  So I copied it also, it complained about another one ... So I wanted to find out how to do this right.
[21:55] <bodhi_zazen> ldd /sbin/cryptsetup
[21:55] <bodhi_zazen> and copy those libs
[21:55] <CIDR> well your /mount showed only /dev/sdb1 mounted not /dev/sda1
[21:55] <CIDR> umount /boot
[21:55] <CIDR> mount /dev/sda1 /boot
[21:55] <CIDR> ls /boot I bet everything is missing again
[21:56] <HeathHayle> Did anyone read my question?
[21:56] <vlt> HeathHayle: No
[21:56] <CygnusS> PyroKiller check grep "EE" /var/log/Xorg.0.log and ~/.xsession-errors for infos
[21:56] <HeathHayle> Can anyone help me?
[21:57] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, right now I'm booted to the live CD... are you sure I should do umount /boot and then mount /dev/sda1 /boot   ?
[21:57] <CIDR> no
[21:57] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: Thanks. You saved me another 13 boot, create initrd, reboot cycles
[21:57] <fishscene> HeathHayle: The quesiton was posted quite a while ago. You may need to ask again.
[21:57] <CIDR> mkdir /tmp/boot; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot; ls /boot
[21:57] <bodhi_zazen> vlt: no problem =)
[21:57] <Pyro_Killer> CygnuS: Neither of the files are there because there is no Xorg starting
[21:57] <CIDR> ermm mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/boot
[21:58] <Pyro_Killer> CygnuS: I thought they replaced Xorg some time ago
[21:58] <bodhi_zazen> the only other issue, I hope the initramfs has a script for luks already (sounds as if it does)
[21:58] <HeathHayle> How do I see if s wireless usb dongle is working correctly cos I cant connect to a hidden network
[21:58] <bodhi_zazen> HeathHayle: iwconfig recognize the device ?
[21:58] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, http://pastebin.com/ZZT65QRz
[21:59] <CIDR> cat /proc/mdstat
[22:00] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, no personalities listed, unused devices: <none>
[22:00] <CIDR> ahh your life cd didn't pick them pu?
[22:00] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: Yes, it has. Otherwise it wouldn`t ask me to enter the passphrase when booting. There was just cryptsetup ising.
[22:00] <vlt> *missing
[22:01] <bodhi_zazen> is it working now vlt ?
[22:01] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: Didn't reboot yet
[22:02] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, ok I did mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 to get my array recognized
[22:02] <l337ingDisorder> however
[22:02] <CygnusS> Pyro_Killer sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:03] <l337ingDisorder> still getting the same "mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'" output even though /proc/mdstat now shows both drives in the array
[22:03] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR,  ^^^
[22:03] <CIDR> yeah
[22:03] <CIDR> mount /dev/md0 /tmp/boot
[22:03] <l337ingDisorder> yeah that's what gives me the mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'
[22:03] <l337ingDisorder> oh
[22:03] <l337ingDisorder> nvm
[22:04] <l337ingDisorder> ok
[22:04] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: I did something else and read the cryptroot hook script. It seems to return 1 now on an empty crypttab file. After creating one I don't get the warning anymore AND there's cryptsetup in initr.img now.
[22:04] <l337ingDisorder> mounted, and the files are there
[22:04]  * vlt boots
[22:04] <l337ingDisorder> now I need to remember wtf I did to set it up such that it would boot to the RAID array... man that was like 2 years ago lol
[22:05] <mediawork> hi
[22:05] <CIDR> I imagien your menu.1st is jacked up
[22:05] <CIDR> cd /boot/grub; nano menu.1st
[22:06] <mediawork> my wife just ran an update on her ubuntu 13.04 ... ,  after restart, the login process is broke,  ... basically she enters her login, an screen goes blank for a few seconds and returns back to login screen.
[22:06] <l337ingDisorder> (installing vim)
[22:06] <mediawork> is this a known issue with the latest update?
[22:06] <CIDR> well /tmp/boot/grub/menu.1st
[22:06] <mediawork> how can I revert the last update?
[22:06] <bekks> mediawork: You cant revert it. Do you have enough disk space left?
[22:07] <mediawork> bekks,  I thinks so, let me see.
[22:07] <Pyro_Killer> FUCk this im reinstalling
[22:07] <l337ingDisorder> oh hang on
[22:07] <CIDR> l337ingDisorder:  http://www.howtoforge.com/software-raid1-grub-boot-debian-etch-p2 check this out
[22:07] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, /tmp/boot is actually / on the raid array, not /boot/
[22:07] <bekks> !language | Pyro_Killer
[22:07] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, ie it has my full filesystem listed in /tmp/boot right now
[22:08] <Pyro_Killer> sorry, it will not repeat itself
[22:08] <CIDR> oh
[22:08] <CIDR> then /dev/md1 ?
[22:08] <l337ingDisorder> there's no /dev/md1
[22:08] <CIDR> assemble it
[22:08] <mediawork> bekks,  loads and loads of space
[22:08] <Pyro_Killer> wait, oh it magically repaired itself, sometimes ubuntu is a weird beast
[22:09] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, not identified in config file.
[22:09] <roddenberry> mdadm --scan or something
[22:09] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, I somewhat recall that I had to set up the /boot/ partition as non-raid
[22:09] <l337ingDisorder> lemme fire up gparted, see if it sheds some light on this
[22:09] <rhin0> anyone know why virtualbox (set up for ubuntu) .. doesn't give the option for 64 bit ubuntu anymore?
[22:10] <mediawork> bekks,  you have any idea how our login process can be broke -- it kinda reminds me of graphics cards issues.. :S   we are using nvidia
[22:10] <bodhi_zazen> rhin0: the only time I have seen that is when hardware acceleration is disabled in you BIOS
[22:10] <bekks> mediawork: Then check the Xorg.0.log in /var/log
[22:10] <rhin0> hardware accelaration is n aoption in bios
[22:10] <rhin0> i saw something like that thanks
[22:11] <bodhi_zazen> so, activate it ;)
[22:11] <mediawork> bekks,  ok will do,   here is her new uname -a ::::  Linux wh-desktop 3.8.0-32-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 1 22:35:23 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:11] <gustavo> Hi
[22:11] <rhin0> is it a quantum activator or a psyzork type c activator
[22:11] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, ok.. /dev/sda has an ext3 partition, /dev/sdb has a 100mb ext3 partition as /dev/sdb1 (my /boot/ partition was 100 mb so I think that's it) and also has a matching ext3 partition for the one on /dev/sda/
[22:11] <mediawork> bekks,  she definately had a kernel update.
[22:12] <gustavo> Is this the Ubuntu chat?
[22:12] <bodhi_zazen> rhin0: urn kvm-ok
[22:12] <bekks> mediawork: That might have broken it.
[22:12] <rhin0> bodhi_zazen: data rivit.
[22:12] <gustavo> Is this the Blowuntu channel???
[22:13] <CIDR> ok
[22:13] <l337ingDisorder> ok
[22:13] <CIDR> l337ingDisorder: So I imagine sda or sdb is blank
[22:13] <gustavo> Or the Suckbuntu channel???
[22:13] <CIDR> and one has the right stuff on it
[22:13] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, I unmounted /tmp/boot and mounted /dev/sdb1 to /tmp/boot
[22:13] <CIDR> so we should be able to mount both of them, then do a cp-dpRX /whervertgoodstuffis /wherverisblank
[22:13] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, now /tmp/boot shows the files that were in /boot/ before
[22:14] <CIDR> umount /dev/sdb1; mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/boot
[22:14] <CIDR> ?
[22:14] <mediawork> bekks,  I dont see anything immediately wrong.. what should I be looking for,  can I grep something?
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> CIDR:  that should let you see the contents of sda1 at /tmp/boot
[22:14] <mediawork> bekks, is it possible that I can reboot her system and load the old kernel instead?
[22:14] <bekks> mediawork: check wether the nvidia module is loaded.
[22:14] <CIDR> Dr_Willis: correct
[22:14] <CIDR> I was asking him what it shows
[22:15] <bekks> mediawork: Yes, just press the shift key after the BIOS POST, to enter the grub menu.
[22:16] <mediawork> bekks, nvidia is loaded, and talking a lot on Xorg.log
[22:16] <mediawork> bekks,  but no immediate error to be seen in the Xorg.log
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. Seems webcamstudio has been ported to work with 13.10 - nifty - now to see if it actually works
[22:16] <bekks> mediawork: Then you may check ~/.xsession-errors
[22:17] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, mount: unknown filesystem type 'linux_raid_member'
[22:17] <bekks> l337ingDisorder: Then specify a filesystem.
[22:17] <tjj_> I just upgraded to 13.10 and I want to use the static window switcher. But I don't see that option in compiz config manager anywhere. Is there something I need to install to get the old switcher back?
[22:17] <bekks> l337ingDisorder: Pastebin: sudo blkid please
[22:17] <mediawork> bekks,   (nautilus:2191): Gdk-WARNING **: nautilus: Fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server :0.
[22:17] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, to reitterate, there are two drives.. sda has only the ext3 raid partition, sdb has the ext3 raid partition and an ext3 boot partition that is not raid
[22:17] <l337ingDisorder> (just making sure we're on the same page)
[22:18] <bekks> l337ingDisorder: then mount -t ext3 ...
[22:18] <l337ingDisorder> bekks, why am I mounting /dev/sda1 exactly? It doesn't have the boot partition on it
[22:19] <l337ingDisorder> sda only has the counterpart to the raid partition on sdb
[22:19] <CIDR> but it does
[22:19] <mediawork> bekks,  I think maybe we should simply revert this kernel update.
[22:19] <CIDR> I'm guessing sda has nothing on it
[22:19] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, sda has data on it
[22:19] <mediawork> bekks,  there are errors relating to her wacom tablet input device, and also some immediate problem with nautilus... Im not sure how important nautilus is for unity
[22:19] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, it has the mirror of the raid array
[22:20] <Lyut> Hey guys, when I try and install windows on to another partition, I can't because the disk is in GPT, is there any way around this?
[22:20] <mediawork> bekks,  would it fail desktop environment from loading
[22:20] <CIDR> Im saying sda has a 100 meg parititon on it tow right?
[22:20] <Lyut> I want to dual-boot Windows for gaming
[22:20] <CIDR> both match?
[22:20] <sophie_> What's the best way in Ubuntu to check for bad sectors on a drive?
[22:20] <CIDR> sda1 sdb1 ?
[22:20] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, no
[22:20] <PabloPerdomo> hola
[22:21] <CIDR> They're not both 100 meg partitions?
[22:21] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, on sda there is only one ext3 partition, 300GB or so... on sdb there are two partitions; one is a 100mb partition and the other is the matching 300gb partition for the raid array
[22:21] <CIDR> ohhh
[22:21] <ElTimo> Is SNA enabled by default in 13.10?
[22:21] <CIDR> so your boot parition isn't actually on a raid1 array
[22:21] <CIDR> Gotcha
[22:21] <l337ingDisorder> I set it up so that my /boot/ partition was not raid
[22:22] <CIDR> I'm guessing your menu.1st isn't correct
[22:22] <bodhi_zazen> sophie_: sudo badblocks /dev/sda1 or whatever partition you want
[22:22] <CIDR> trying to boot from sda1 and not working
[22:22] <l337ingDisorder> menu.1st tries to load /dev/md0
[22:22] <sophie_> bodhi_zazen,  thanks
[22:22] <CIDR> yeah...
[22:22] <CIDR> grub
[22:22] <tjj_> How can I ungroup windows in the switcher in 13.10?
[22:22] <l337ingDisorder> should have backed up my old menu.1st before updating grub
[22:23] <mediawork> bekks,  go figure... I unplugged the wacom tablet device, and now we can log in.
[22:23] <l337ingDisorder> technically trying to boot from /dev/sdb1 not /dev/sda1
[22:23] <mediawork> bekks,  into desktop that is
[22:23] <CIDR> pastbin your menu.1st
[22:23] <CIDR> Yeah, as you should be
[22:23] <CIDR> but your menu.1st is probably pointing to sda1
[22:23] <bodhi_zazen> sophie_: be warned, it may be s sign your drive is failing, it can last a while, or it can fail with little or no warning (I've seen both), back up your data ;)
[22:24] <sophie_> The drive is quite old, I just want to see if there's any sign of it failing
[22:24] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, http://pastebin.com/BnxXDMNu
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> always assume a drive is failing.. and can die at any time.
[22:25] <bodhi_zazen> sophie_: you might also want smartmontools
[22:25] <bodhi_zazen> http://blog.shadypixel.com/monitoring-hard-drive-health-on-linux-with-smartmontools/
[22:26] <mediawork> hi
[22:26] <CIDR> hrmm
[22:26] <mediawork> we figured out that latest kernel update screwed up one of the input devices, and failst the unity and gnome desktop environmentss.
[22:26] <CIDR> Alright
[22:26] <mediawork> how can we undo the kernel update?
[22:26] <CIDR> Try changing your first deal to root=/dev/sdb1
[22:26] <CIDR> and reboot
[22:27] <l337ingDisorder> thought that might be the solution
[22:27] <l337ingDisorder> will do
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> mediawork:  the grub menu should have a list of all installed kernels. select an older one.
[22:27] <bodhi_zazen> mediawork: boot an old kernel from the grub menu and then remove the new kernel
[22:27] <mediawork> Dr_Willis, bodhi_zazen ,   ok, thanks, however, remove as in how? --- sudo rm /boot/...?
[22:28] <mediawork> Dr_Willis, bodhi_zazen ,   sudo apt-get remove kernel?
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> mediawork:  err... USE THE PACKAGE MANAGER. ;) if you used it to install stuff..
[22:28] <bodhi_zazen> apt-get
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> theres even ways to just select the older kernel by default in /etc/default/grub
[22:30] <dailylinux> Can't mini.iso be dd into USB pen drive for installation?
[22:30] <mediawork> bodhi_zazen, Dr_Willis ,  I did aptitude search kernel, but there are no update packages listed... how can I find the one I want to remove?
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> dailylinux, no gui there?
[22:31] <bodhi_zazen> grep vmlinuz /boot
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> mediawork:   by its version number i would assume.    the askubuntu.com site has some info on how to select the proper kernels i recall.
[22:31] <bodhi_zazen> dpkg -l | grep linux
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> dailylinux, The regular iso can I would assume the mini can.
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[22:31] <dailylinux> hmm, ok
[22:32] <mediawork> bodhi_zazen,  that was it!... we have kernel update 47... i.e.    linux-image-extra-3.8.0-32-generic        3.8.0-32.47
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> dailylinux, Which release, the mini became the alternate in 12.10 as far as the name.
[22:32] <bodhi_zazen> mediawork: you just will not be able to delete (remove) a running kernel is all
[22:33] <bodhi_zazen> mediawork: you can file a bug report and put kernel updates on hold
[22:33] <mediawork> bodhi_zazen,  it only affects all those wacom tablet artists out there... they are a minority :)
[22:33] <bodhi_zazen> http://askubuntu.com/questions/18654/how-to-prevent-updating-of-a-specific-package
[22:34] <bodhi_zazen> well, will not get fixed if you do not report it
[22:34] <mediawork> bodhi_zazen, ok will file bug report, after I confirm it is only the kernel.
[22:35] <Lyut> Has anyone here installed Windows after Ubuntu before?
[22:35] <Lyut>  I need some help with it :P
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> Lyut, It booting to windows now?
[22:35] <Lyut> No
[22:35] <bodhi_zazen> Lyut: it has been done many times, describe your problem
[22:36] <Lyut> I can't install it because my disk is formatted in GPT
[22:36] <Lyut> I want to install it on the same disk as Ubuntu
[22:36] <HeathHayle> How do I shutdown a crashed ubuntu system?
[22:36] <wilee-nilee> Lyut, Did you originally have a W8 oem on there?
[22:36] <Lyut> W7
[22:36] <bodhi_zazen> hold the power button HeathHayle
[22:36] <Lyut> But I removed it
[22:37] <Lyut> Although there was a 100mb partition left, I wasn't sure if it was my SSD manufacturer's partition or if it was installed by Windows
[22:37] <HeathHayle> Thats not a safe shutdown though is it?
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> Lyut, The point is why the gpt is this a uefi computer?
[22:37] <wylde> HeathHayle, before that can you ctrl+alt+F1 to console?
[22:37] <Lyut> Yeah it's UEFI
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> Lyut, Go to ##windows on this issue, come back for the grub boot.
[22:38] <rosco_y> is there an easy-to-use software for recording a desktop with sound to a video file?
[22:38] <HeathHayle> Then how do I shutdown after that?
[22:38] <Lyut> Alright thanks
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> Lyut, NO problem uefi info here is sketchy at times is all.
[22:39] <wylde> HeathHayle, 'sudo shutown -P now' to shutdwon. 'sudo reboot' to reboot, or optionally maybe restarting lightdm may recover you 'sudo service lightdm restart'.
[22:39] <rosco_y> I tried "Kazaam" and "recordMyDesktop" without luck
[22:40] <HeathHayle> No its not working when I type the password the HDD Is still working on the other task that was it going in the gui i think
[22:41] <wylde> HeathHayle, which command isn't working?
[22:41] <HeathHayle> Its just console is being really slow
[22:42] <wylde> HeathHayle, it will if somthing like compiz is puking ;) Running the cpu up to 99-100%
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> Lyut, You have to be registered with freenode to use the ##windows channel and some others.
[22:42] <HeathHayle> Is it ok to shutdown at console if the gui is trying to do something?
[22:43] <Lyut> Oh right :/
[22:43] <wylde> HeathHayle, far better than a hard reset since it will at least attempt to shutdown properly
[22:44] <bekks> 22/j #areca
[22:44] <bekks> gna.
[22:44] <HeathHayle> It didn't reqnise -p
[22:44] <wylde> HeathHayle,  -P
[22:44] <Sander^Lap> How can I install more software on my usb stick with live ubuntu?
[22:45] <wylde> HeathHayle, case matters
[22:45] <Sander^Lap> I cant find.. eg. ubuntu-restricted-extras package when I apt-get search for it.
[22:45] <HeathHayle> Oh yer its linux forgot that lol
[22:45] <HeathHayle> Why is linux case sen I never get that?
[22:46] <CIDR> Because the filesystem is case sensitive...
[22:46] <Garheade> Isn't Case Sensitivity a POSIX standard?
[22:46] <bekks> HeathHayle: Because Linux isnt VAX/VMS.
[22:46] <HeathHayle> It said shutdown: time expected
[22:46] <wylde> Sander^Lap, 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install packagename'
[22:47] <bekks> HeathHayle: Then specify: shutdown -h now
[22:47] <wylde> HeathHayle, now
[22:47] <wylde> HeathHayle, I gave you the full command earlier ;)
[22:47] <Sander^Lap> wylde, ive done that. still the package isnt there.
[22:48] <HeathHayle> Sorry did you?
[22:48] <wylde> HeathHayle, yep. I gave you 3 options, restart lightdm, reboot or shutdown(using the poweroff switch)
[22:48] <Sander^Lap> wylde, I guess I need to add some repositories for it.
[22:49] <wylde> Sander^Lap, oooo I missed where it was a usb
[22:49] <HeathHayle> Sorry missed that
[22:49] <HeathHayle> Lol
[22:50] <Sander^Lap> wylde, yes. Fresh downloaded ubuntu 13.10 on a usb stick :-)
[22:50] <HeathHayle> i dont think its working lol
[22:50] <Pyro_Killer> because it should be case sensitive, why would you not want case sensitivity?
[22:50] <HeathHayle> Yes it is lol
[22:51] <wylde> Sander^Lap, ahh. not sure. Although you should still be able to install software to a live session. I only use them typically for installs :)
[22:51] <Pyro_Killer> One of the Ubuntu devs came to Ogg camp, and i totally crashed his Ubuntu phone, and then it went in to boot loop :P
[22:52] <Sander^Lap> wylde, I just need some software to play youtube and stuff. So I can test the grafic card and sound before I install anything to this pc.
[22:52] <HeathHayle> Stupid old computer I am trying to get the usb wifi working i was working down the trubbleshooting and it just when crazy slow
[22:53] <wylde> Sander^Lap, pastebin the full output when you try to install. 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[22:53] <Danny__> hi
[22:54] <Danny__> how do i rest bios in terminal
[22:54] <Pyro_Killer> please be more specific ion your requests
[22:54] <Danny__> my bios time showing dissent then ubuntu
[22:55] <Danny__> i dont have ntp installed
[22:55] <Danny__> or utc
[22:55] <Sander^Lap> wylde, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6303335/
[22:55] <Danny__> in windows shows same time in bios and in windows why linux differnt
[22:56] <HeathHayle> Is it ok to ask for help in here or just i be googling for the answer?
[22:56] <Danny__> how do i rest bios time in terminal
[22:56] <Danny__> time in bios anoying me not the same as ubuntu
[22:57] <Danny__> any one out there gonna help me
[22:57] <Danny__> i dont have ntp installed or utc
[22:57] <wylde> Danny__, you set the bios time in the bios. Reboot, enter the bios and set the time there. It's not uncommon for the bios to be set to UTC and the OS adjusts according to location.
[22:57] <Danny__> i wanna rest bios time
[22:58] <Danny__> wylde i changed bios time reverted back
[22:58] <gustavo> Hi
[22:58] <gustavo> Is this the Blowuntu channel?
[22:58] <HeathHayle> How to I install linux drivers from a cd?
[22:59] <Danny__> my time is 9 :58 am bios says 19 :58 pm
[22:59] <cgt> gustavo: Ubuntu, not Blowuntu
[22:59] <gordonjcp> HeathHayle: you don't
[22:59] <gordonjcp> HeathHayle: what is it a CD for?
[22:59] <Danny__> thats strange
[22:59] <HeathHayle> A usb wifi adaptor
[22:59] <Danny__> im in ternminal how can i fix it
[22:59] <gordonjcp> HeathHayle: plug it in and see if it works
[22:59] <gordonjcp> Danny__: hwclock
[23:00] <gordonjcp> Danny__: set your hardware clock to the correct time, then set your timezone
[23:00] <Pyro_Killer> HeathHayle: find out what chipset it uses, google it
[23:00] <gordonjcp> Danny__: hardware clock should be UTC, always
[23:00] <HeathHayle> Thats my problem it sees my hidden network but wont connect to it
[23:00] <gordonjcp> HeathHayle: "hidden network"?
[23:00] <Danny__> gordon i dont have utc
[23:00] <gordonjcp> HeathHayle: oh, you hid SSID?
[23:00] <HeathHayle> Yer
[23:01] <gordonjcp> HeathHayle: yeah, don't do that, it doesn't work
[23:01] <gordonjcp> HeathHayle: it kinda sorta works, *sometimes*, mostly by accident
[23:01] <Danny__> im using linux mint ubuntu based
[23:01] <HeathHayle> It worked on ubuntu 10.0
[23:01] <gordonjcp> HeathHayle: more by luck than design
[23:01] <gordonjcp> !mint | Danny__
[23:01] <Danny__> yeah grodon dosent have utc
[23:01] <gordonjcp> Danny__: but in general, set your hardware clock to UTC time
[23:02] <Pyro_Killer> Yeah, but it is though
[23:02] <Danny__> gordon how do i do it no utc
[23:02] <HeathHayle> Lol but it sees it it just has a red no entry sign on the wifi icon
[23:02] <gordonjcp> Danny__: what do you mean "no utc"?
[23:02] <TheLordOfTime> Danny__: you need to get help with Mint on their chat, which is the #linuxmint-help channel on irc.spotchat.org
[23:03] <Danny__> gordon when i installed no utc
[23:03] <TauNeutrino> hey guys, I have a very slow internet connection via umts, how can I get the most out of it, so that I can at least watch youtube videos in everything minimum?
[23:03] <Danny__> grodon ive been banned from mint chat
[23:03] <gordonjcp> Danny__: probably because you don't make sense
[23:03] <gordonjcp> Danny__: do you know what UTC time is?
[23:03] <Danny__> grodon i kno
[23:03] <Danny__> no grodon i dont
[23:03] <gordonjcp> sod it, I give up
[23:03] <gordonjcp> it's midnight
[23:04] <gordonjcp> Danny__: then learn to tell the time
[23:04] <Danny__> gordon my os time is 10:04 am bios differnt
[23:04] <Danny__> gordon i want same os in bios
[23:05] <Bollebib2> I'm having an issue with my display
[23:05] <Bollebib2> when I start up;half of the time the screen is very bad,and moving or closing windows results in afterimages
[23:05] <Bollebib2> so it looks like there are hundreds of windows open ,if I move one ,because they freeze in place
[23:05] <Danny__> how do i rest bios time in terminal
[23:05] <Bollebib2> I did an update a few days ago which may have resulted in this behaviour
[23:06] <Pyro_Killer> Danny__: just do it in the bios?
[23:06] <Danny__> pryo changes to differnt time when i change it in bios
[23:06] <HeathHayle> Why wont linux connect to a hidden network then?
[23:06] <Bollebib2> I can reset it with
[23:06] <Bollebib2> unity --reset,then reboot
[23:06] <Bollebib2> sudo restart lightdm   and then reboot
[23:06] <Bollebib2> they both solve my issue
[23:06] <Danny__> in windows bios is the same as windows
[23:06] <Bollebib2> but I'd like to prevent it
[23:06] <FloodBot1> Bollebib2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:07] <Danny__> why linux bios time differnt
[23:07] <Bollebib2> so it's possibly a faulty package.
[23:07] <Danny__> ibe been stuck at bios time for two days
[23:08] <Danny__> any terminal commands for bios time
[23:08] <TauNeutrino> moep
[23:08] <Bollebib2> I'd like some help in finding that package,if possible
[23:08] <Danny__> i just want time in os same as the bios thats all
[23:09] <Danny__> i dont have ntp or utc
[23:09] <Pyro_Killer> Danny__: third post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=836480&s=1ef1fe34eeb89fca50e8d4d33e235528
[23:10] <Sander^Lap> wylde, I had to add the multiverse repositories.
[23:10] <Sander^Lap> Kinda strange why they aint added to the usb stick image
[23:11] <Danny__> prokiller that didnt help i need commands
[23:11] <Danny__> how do i rest bios time in terminal
[23:11] <Danny__> to match the os time
[23:12] <Danny__> im no nerd or geek
[23:12] <Danny__> ive got terminal opend
[23:12] <Sander^Lap> How do I a flash plugin in firefox?
[23:13] <Sander^Lap> install :)
[23:13] <Danny__> sudo apt rgk time sysn
[23:13] <Danny__> sudo apt rest time
[23:13] <Pyro_Killer> Sander^Lap: google it, though i always have issues with it, but installing cvhromium and installing it onto there is a LOT easier
[23:13] <Danny__> fuck the bios time no one help me
[23:14] <TauNeutrino> hello
[23:14] <TauNeutrino> argh damn it
[23:14] <Danny__> dammm it
[23:14] <TauNeutrino> enough of this crap
[23:14] <Danny__> ive been tuck bios time for two days
[23:14] <wylde> Sander^Lap, ahh alrighty. Apologies. Had an unannounced visitor show up. :/
[23:15] <Danny__> i just want restore bios time to the os in linux in terminal
[23:15] <Pyro_Killer> Danny__: http://linux.gids.nl/time.html
[23:15] <Sander^Lap> wylde, all ok.
[23:15] <Sander^Lap> wylde, I cant install eather mplayer or flash plugin to play video.
[23:16] <Sander^Lap> it says: Package mplayer is not available, nut is referred to by another package.
[23:16] <Sander^Lap> but*
[23:16] <Sander^Lap> Wondring which repository mplayer is in.
[23:17] <coms> Hey, having some problems booting ubuntu after some software updates, wanted to see if someone could help me out
[23:17] <Sander^Lap> Ah. Found out. Needed both multiverse and universe. :-)
[23:17] <wylde> Sander^Lap, universe
[23:17] <wylde> oops too late ;)
[23:18] <Lyut> Does anyone here host a virtualisation from Ubuntu?
[23:18] <Lyut> I am looking to do so :D
[23:18] <Lyut> of w7
[23:18] <coms> The boot process hangs on the purple screen right after the grub dualboot menu, already tried reinstalling my kernel but that didn't help, any ideas?
[23:18] <cretsiah> Im using ubuntu 12 wondering how I can make my fonts look right on a 66cm (26 inch) screen
[23:18] <Danny__> prokiller disnt work
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> coms, what release?
[23:18] <coms> hangs right on loading initial ramdisk
[23:19] <coms> 13.04
[23:19] <Pyro_Killer> coms: give it 15 minutes
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> coms, Does an earlier kernel boot?
[23:19] <coms> yeh 3.8.0-19 boots, but it terminal mode only
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> coms, is 3.8.0-19 a kernal from the repos?
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu repos*
[23:20] <coms> yeh
[23:21] <Bosi> Hello everyone, my computer is an ASUS Eee PC, with 2GB of RAM,  and processor ATOM N450 1.6 GHz.  It says here that it is 64bit capable... Do you guys think I should install the 32 or 64 bit version of Ubuntu in it?
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> coms, Is this associated with a graphics driver perchance the terminal boot?
[23:21] <Pyro_Killer> Bosi 12.04.3 64 bit
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> Bosi:  im running 64bit xubuntu on my EEEpc 1001xpd right now
[23:22] <coms> doubt it, purged my ATI driver and reinstalled xorg
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> oops its a 1001PXD  ;)
[23:22] <coms> but perhaps
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> Bosi:  using 13.10 xubuntu and lubuntu on mind. The unity/ubuntu/gnome-shell desktop was a bit much for it
[23:22] <Pyro_Killer> I had an amusing thought yesterday, in terms of ubuntu 08.04 is an ancient operating system, but some people still run windows XP from 2001
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> coms, It seems you have a set of problems not associated the latest kernel and graphic issues, I suspect the graphic stuff is the first that need fixing, the kernel just needs a purge probably.
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> or a fix on the kernel, but probably wont work without the graphics being correct. coms
[23:24] <Bosi> Dr_Willis, I actually have Xubuntu 32 bit that I installed long time ago, but this thought just ocurred to me. What will be the main difference if I change to 64 bit?
[23:24] <coms> wilee-nilee, what would be how would you go about diagnosing the problem?
[23:25] <Pyro_Killer> Bosi: It can utelize the processor to its full capacity, instead of runing everything on a single core
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> Bosi:  you might not notice any differance. in theory video rencoiding or other math intensive stuff may be quicker. I basically ONLY use 64bit and only have the 64bit iso's/flash drives - because all my pcs are 64bit
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> coms, I'm not up on graphics, but If it were me I would get that fixed first, it seems you have tried to fix this or at least ran updates without it being addressed.
[23:25] <coms> k thanks
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> Bosi:  i dont see much reason these days to not use 64bit - if your cpu can handle 64bit
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> coms, I would reload the clone I have of my working system, but not everyone clone their setups.
[23:27] <coms> only cloned my data files, not my setup :(
[23:27] <Bosi> Dr_Willis, yeah, when I installed I knew less than I know today, so it didn't ocur to me installing 64bit. While running Xubuntu 32bit I feel my CPU a little too loaded... this might be the solution I was looking for.
[23:27] <Danny_> hi
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> I had my 14.04 go south on me by running a partial upgrade just today, I popped in my usb with clonezilla reloaded the working image and am back in business, no running a reinstall and setups, took about 5-10 min..
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu would be lighter then xfce also Bosi
[23:28] <Danny_> how do i rest bios time in terminal
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> rest = 'reset' ?
[23:28] <Danny_> i dont have ntp or utc
[23:28] <Bosi> Dr_Willis, do you think the next release of Lubuntu will be a LTS? I might try Lubuntu
[23:29] <Danny_> dr willias keep the os time same as bios
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/hwclock.8.html
[23:29] <Danny_> my time is 10 :29 am bios time says 24:00
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> i think we had this discussion the other day. the bios clock will normally NOT be the same as the os time,. due to the os knowing about timezones and DST
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> Bosi:  lts means very little to me really.
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> im not even sure on the lts-ness-state of lubuntu now. ;)
[23:30] <Danny_> ok dr williws
[23:31] <Danny_> dr williws so  bios time will be not same in os
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> hwclock can read/set/reset the bios time
[23:31] <Bosi> Dr_Willis, I heard they'd try to make the 14.04 a LTS release, but that's what I heard... anyway... I might try that.
[23:32] <Danny_> dr williws is it sudo hwclock can read/set/reset the bios time
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> Danny_:  if you lived in england on the UTC timezone.. it could ;) except when they change to DST. (if they do)
[23:32] <Sander^Lap> Pyro_Killer, looks like I just needed to install the "flashplugin-installer" package.
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> Bosi:  i always stick to the latest release
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> Danny_:  man hwclock        id have to read the man pages to tell you the syntax
[23:33] <Danny_> dr wilwas trminal comands rest bios time
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> Danny_:  the terminal command can read, or set the bios time
[23:34] <Bosi> Dr_Willis, well, I was happy with the 13.04 of Xubuntu, but when I upgraded a lot of problems appeared. I really regret of upgrading. With a LTS release I'd not have that problem.
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> it also mentions if you can set the clock to the local time. but then you need to make sure you set your Timezone correctly
[23:34] <Danny_> what command
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> Danny_:  have you looked at 'man hwclock' yet?
[23:35] <wylde> Danny_, read the manual. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man8/hwclock.8.html . Also, mint isn't supported here. #linuxmint-help channel on irc.spotchat.org
[23:36] <Danny_> wydle to hard man
[23:37] <Danny_> i just need sudo commands so i can copy and paste
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> then give up i guess.. the man page even gives examples of setting the time/date
[23:37] <Danny_> i just need rest bios time in terminal with correct os time
[23:37] <Danny_> i need trun of utc
[23:38] <Danny_> i dont have ntp installed
[23:38] <wylde> Danny_, come back on a supported distribution perhaps? </donefeedingtrolls>
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> you use the --set --date option. like the man page example shows.
[23:38] <Danny_> i have ubuntu
[23:38] <Pyro_Killer> Sander^Lap: In my experince it doesn't always work
[23:39] <Danny_> cock
[23:39] <Danny_> cock
[23:39] <Danny_> cock
[23:39] <FloodBot1> Danny_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:39]  * wilee-nilee thinks this chanell should be called #ubuntu-enablers
[23:39] <apb> Across the bottom of my screen is a menu strip that shows each running program... I don't know what it's called... a panel?  Anyway, mousing over each item causes a menu to "drop up".  Those "dropups" are translucent.  How can I make them opaque?
[23:40] <nurow> Hello, I'm trying to edit a PDF that has some spanish text in it using LibreOffice Draw. The text looks fine in my PDF reader before editing it, but after I edit it in Draw, the Spanish language words are huge and span beyond their normal boundaries, overlapping with other words. Anyone know how to fix this? I'm guessing it has to do with selecting the right character encoding, but I'm not sure how to do that?
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> apb:  panel and task list..   what desktop are you using?
[23:41] <apb> kubuntu? kde?  Are they the same or different?
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> kubuntu uses kde.
[23:41] <Pyro_Killer> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde installed
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> kde has dozens of theme settings.
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> so you  may need to explore them.  I dont use kde enought ot know where theymay be at
[23:41] <apb> Pyro_Killer: Thanks, that's what I was kind of thinking but wasn't sure.
[23:42] <Pyro_Killer> abp: np, install all of the desktops
[23:42] <apb> I don't think I changed the theme... although it's possible I changed it to windoze if I made any changes at all.
[23:42] <ubnoobtu> Hey, why isnt flash saying its available on firefox, on ubuntu 12.04
[23:42] <apb> Pyro_Killer: heh, pass on that option.  Too confusing.
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> perhaps you need to install the flash installer package ubnoobtu
[23:43] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, still here? had company come by, then had to run a couple errands that couldn't wait any longer... back at it now. I changed grub/menu.1st to load /dev/sdb1 instead of /dev/md0 and got the same results on boot.. Also tried setting it to /dev/sda1 just in case, same results
[23:43] <Pyro_Killer> abp: you can usually choose from the login screen, cinnamon is quite a new and exciting one
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> nurow, I have tried some of the pdf-editors offered in the repos, I found none to really work all that well, in varied circumstances, I think it it depends on the code in the original at times, kinda a tough problem.
[23:43] <ubnoobtu> also, how can i get my video card to be recongized by ubuntu?
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> ubnoobtu:  install the proper driver for it - is the normal way. Using the addational-drivers tool/tab/
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> ubnoobtu, Start with identifying it to the channel with some details.
[23:44] <ubnoobtu> Its a Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT
[23:44] <l337ingDisorder> CIDR, by "same results" i mean it says error: you need to load the kernel first.
[23:45] <rainabba> I've downloaded, re-downloaded, confirmed MD5, tried multiple devices (usb flash, sdcard reader, even usb to SATA drive) and no matter when when I try to boot ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64 on an older Dell desktop (P4, 64-bit, EMT, VT extensions so not horribly old) with nVideo card, past BIOS I get a very brief message about starting Kernel then things go black. I never see the Ubuntu splash.
[23:45] <rainabba> Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot, what this might be, etc..?
[23:45] <ivanUltraSuperSu> Hi everybody!
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> ubnoobtu, Take a look at Dr_Willis's post as well.
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> ubuntulog:  so install the nvidia drivers for it. I tend to just install  the nvidia-current package for most of mynvidia cards
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> oops wrong nick ;)
[23:45] <nurow> wilee-nilee :( I guess I should just use my Windows 7 VM :(
[23:45]  * Dr_Willis enlarges his fonts
[23:46] <ubnoobtu> dr_Willis, i've installed it through the tab, but when I go to check it in the details tab it shows unknown, and its running slower than it did before
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> nurow, adobe is probably the easiest, if you can afford that plugin, I assume it is a paid option.
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> ubnoobtu:  you did reboot after installing the drivers?
[23:46] <ivanUltraSuperSu> Can someboy to response some question?
[23:46] <ubnoobtu> Yea
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> ivanUltraSuperSu, Tell us your problems with details.
[23:46] <ubnoobtu> I think its causing issues with flash and other things
[23:46] <ivanUltraSuperSu> somebody*
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[23:47] <Chardot> Hey. I'm following this guide: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx and I'm waiting in #8 to complete, but it's taking long. Should I expect it to be long?
[23:48] <Pyro_Killer> depends on the quality of you usb stick
[23:48] <ivanUltraSuperSu> How I can create a vpn network  from ubuntu with UltraVNC?
[23:48]  * Dr_Willis wonders what #8 is ;) his phone internet is too slow to look at web sites
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> ivanUltraSuperSu:  VPN and VNC are 2 differnt things..
[23:49] <Pyro_Killer> i would google it, setting up cpn is quite a task
[23:49] <Chardot> «long» means I've been waiting for 20 mins for the command to complete, with no other feedback in the Terminal than a blinking prompt.
[23:49] <Pyro_Killer> *vpn
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> !vpn
[23:49] <ivanUltraSuperSu> o.k sorry
[23:49] <swordsmanz> lol i have been installingg apps non stop for hours and have only used 10 gigs :S
[23:49] <ivanUltraSuperSu> I want to create a vpn with ubuntu
[23:49] <ivanUltraSuperSu> but I a new user
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> once you get a vpn setup. i belive you can then vnc to the machines as if they were on the same local network. thats how vpn's work i thought..
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> but ive rarely used them ;)
[23:50] <Pyro_Killer> ivanUltraSuperSu: I'll see if i find a good guide
[23:50] <Chardot> Wow, it finished!
[23:50] <Chardot> Anyway, thank you Pyro_Killer :)
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> Chardot:  it was waiting for you to ask in here... ;)
[23:50] <ivanUltraSuperSu> Any exemple?
[23:50] <rainabba> I've downloaded, re-downloaded, confirmed MD5, tried multiple devices (usb flash, sdcard reader, even usb to SATA drive) and no matter when when I try to boot ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64 on an older Dell desktop (P4, 64-bit, EMT, VT extensions so not horribly old) with nVideo card, past BIOS I get a very brief message about starting Kernel then things go black. I never see the Ubuntu splash.
[23:50] <rainabba> Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot, what this might be, etc..? Help?
[23:51] <Chardot> Dr_Willis: hhaha
[23:51] <Chardot> ok, rebooting...
[23:51] <vlt> Hello. If I want to playback a h264 video (which already works with mplayer) with totem ... what do I need to install?
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | rainabba
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> rainabba:  try  the minimal installer?  one that uses text mode perhaps. could be the refresh rates are getting set wrong
[23:51]  * l337ingDisorder pokes CIDR in hopes that he's not too far AFK
[23:51] <Pyro_Killer> rainabba: don't excpect the latest ubuntu to work straight off the bat, such is its nature, use 12.04 instead
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> rainabba:  try some other disrtos also - see if any of them work properly
[23:52] <rainabba> wilee-nilee: Right... but don't I need the menu screen first?
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> rainabba, on a live boot the try screen or a install from the grub menu.
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> the fact you dont see anything points to a possible refresh rate issue. you Can edit the boot files on a live-usb flash setup and make it use nomodeset by default. but i forget what files need changed
[23:52] <Pyro_Killer> 12.04 will run on a toaster with an RFID tag, it is amazing
[23:53] <keep> oi
[23:53] <rainabba> Wow. So linux (Ubuntu of all distros) is still a PITA to install/use huh?
[23:54] <l337ingDisorder> PITA?
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> rainabba:  i have very few issues
[23:54] <rainabba> "very few"
[23:54] <rainabba> Thanks
[23:54] <Pyro_Killer> Pain the posterior
[23:54] <vlt> !totem
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> rainabba, Your blaming the distro for your not knowing how to do it.
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> rainabba:   my monitors would say ' mode/rate not valid' in your case i imagine
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> oh well. no loss i guess
[23:54] <Pyro_Killer> 13.10 still needs work , 12.04 my dog could install
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> thats sort of the point of LTS vs non-lts releases. :) a  work-in-progress vs a work-horse ;)
[23:56] <Pyro_Killer> exactly, but in laymans terms, if you want it to work out of the box no hazzles, you choose 12.04, if you wanna muck around and know how to mend stuff that brakes 13.10 is you distro
[23:56] <Sander^Lap> I have a radeon hd 6400 series card.. And wondring how I can enable hdmi sound in ubuntu 13.10.
[23:56] <Pyro_Killer> it's the way it has always been
[23:57] <Pyro_Killer> on the sound icon choose HDMI as your sound output
[23:57] <vlt> vlt !codecs
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> Pyro_Killer, an answer based on dichotomies, but that is the way many reason.
[23:58] <Sander^Lap> Pyro_Killer, Im only able to choose "analog stereo output"
[23:59] <churchill2> Is there an os program like google desktop search?
[23:59] <Dr_Willis> hmm there used to be google desktop for linux. but ive not seen it mentioned in ages.. did they kill the project?