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wr3dhi all00:15
AndaliasWhy kde 4.11 without login session sound?00:46
dougielI did some sudo stuff for bluetooth and my bluetooth icon disappeared from my settings panel...any suggestions?01:10
MangaKaDenzamentlegen... I have yet another problem01:23
MangaKaDenzaso I try to do sudo apt-get install kde* but it says I have held broken packages01:25
MangaKaDenzahow do I fix this01:26
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valoriedz01:44
valorieoops01:44
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dan_lHi.  Has anybody experienced muon software center crashing since upgrading?01:48
[dz]yep01:49
dan_land how did you fix it?01:49
dan_lor did you not?01:49
[dz]nope01:49
[dz]in fact, my entire kubuntu environment is ... pretty messed up01:50
dan_lany other symptoms?01:50
[dz]lets just say... sudo apt-get remove cups*01:50
dan_loh dear.01:51
dan_lso you upgraded and you're totally hosed?01:51
[dz]well... its complicated...01:52
[dz]my thing only runs when I do a recovery01:52
[dz]like01:52
[dz]boot in recovery01:52
[dz]mode01:52
FloodBotK1[dz]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:52
[dz]and in unity, as of a few hours ago, its slowed down to hell01:52
[dz]kde is... missing in action, and kubuntu is unusuable until further notice... and the only working thing is Xubuntu01:53
[dz]so yeah, I'm pretty well01:54
dan_lwell I hate to say it, but did you try reinstalling?01:56
[dz]BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH01:57
[dz]yes01:57
[dz]sudo apt-get remove kde*01:57
[dz]sudo apt-get remove kubuntu*01:57
[dz]then autoremoves01:57
[dz]and other stuff01:57
[dz]and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu*01:57
dan_lit might be time to burn the village dude01:59
[dz]?02:00
dan_lya know, rmrf02:00
[dz]o.002:00
[dz]butbutbut...02:00
[dz]butt02:00
[dz]I already set up mai stuffzor02:00
[dz];-;02:00
dan_lI have an xppro and a win 7 vbox for work stuff.  It kills me too, but once every other year or so, it's time to click the button02:01
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wr3dshoot, ownCloud is so easy to install on Kubuntu 3.10, awesome!03:51
K_userHi04:41
K_userHello! i'm running Kubuntu Live USB now and i can't see my HDD in filemanager. Tell me how to get access to the hard drives? I do not see them in the manager. Thanks04:45
apbAcross the bottom of my screen is the task list panel.  Mousing over each item causes a menu to "drop up".  Those "dropups" are translucent.  How can I make them opaque?  kubuntu 12.0404:49
cretsiahcan kubuntu play all media files? including flash05:03
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muchohi06:28
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haxe__hallo07:43
lordievaderGood morning.07:45
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georgelappieshi all, I am experiencing a black screen delay when login in to KDE before the desktop loads. This is bugging me to now end as the login always was much faster with a smooth transition fade effect to the desktop. Very pretty indeed. However since using KDE4.11 on Kubuntu 13.10 this blackscreen at login became an issue? I have confirmed this issue on another machine with an ATI display as my main display is NVIDIA both have same issue. Is this a08:19
georgelappiesknown regression?08:19
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drbobbhey guys, ever since the upgrade to 13.04 my personal KDE settings have been somewhat f***ed. It shows by no logout or reboot options appearing on the exit dialog, I have no access to those operations through any GUI.11:03
drbobbGuess I could fix this by wiping clean all KDE settings, but I don't want to lose saved passwords, addressbook etc. I there some less drastic fix?11:04
drbobbI was sort-of hoping 13.10 would fix this for me, but nope.11:06
ct529drbobb: do you know what would you like to save?11:10
drbobbct529: well that's part of the problem, one would have to know pretty well what is saved by KDE and where11:11
drbobbI'd really rather wipe just those settings that are responsible for the breakage, and leave all the rest, if I knew how to do that11:14
drbobbit's highly annoying to be unable to logout or reboot, other than via powering off11:15
drbobbI am also having issues with the BCM4313 wifi in my laptop11:22
drbobbit works pretty well with my home router using WPA personal11:22
drbobbbut not at all with the office wifi, on WPA2 enterprise11:23
drbobbthe setting I use are correct and were eorking on 13.0411:23
monkeyjuicedrbobb:  i would try making a new user and log into that user to see if the system works with that user . might just be your user account is messed up11:25
drbobbmonkeyjuice: i'm sure it is the case that the settings for my account are messed up, my question is how to fix them without losing all of them11:29
drbobbI'm using the wl driver for my broadcom wireless, should I perhaps switch to a different driver?11:34
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ct529drbobb: do you know whether the system is recognising the adapter correctly?11:38
drbobbct529: well it works with *some* (or most) access points, so..?11:39
ct529drbobb: could you please do lspci | grep -i wirel on your system? It is difficult to answer without knowing the adapter11:40
drbobbfrom another angle, the output of lshw or lspci seems correct11:40
drbobbct529: I already said it was BCM4313, look above11:41
ct529drbobb: yes, I know, what I need to know is if your system RECOGNISES it as a BCM431311:42
ct529drbobb: if your system rocognises it as somehting else it could work in some siuations and not in others11:43
drbobbct529: I already said so11:43
ct529drbobb: where did you say it?11:44
drbobb[13:40:46] <drbobb> from another angle, the output of lshw or lspci seems correct11:45
ct529drbobb: well, we need to see it .... we would also need to see the output of lsmod to help, and of uname -ram, to make sure the correct module is loaded11:46
drbobb$ lsmod |grep wl11:47
drbobbwl                   4207474  011:47
drbobblib80211               14352  2 wl,lib80211_crypt_tkip11:47
drbobbcfg80211              479757  1 wl11:47
FloodBotK1drbobb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:47
mparilloAndalias: Please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/121466811:47
ubottuUbuntu bug 1214668 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "No login sound on Kubuntu 13.10 with KDE 4.11" [Undecided,Invalid]11:47
ct529drbobb: it is really difficult to diagnose the probelm and propose a solution without seeing those data. Unfortunately, now I have to go. Pleas paetebinit!!!!11:47
ct529drbobb: with the correct information, people will certainly be able to help you!11:48
ct529brb11:48
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anubisHello guys, i just instaled Kubuntu and i am pretty happy about it. Just a few questions: First of all: rekonq has very nice pdf-support. Is there some way to have the same behaviour in chromium browser? I once tried kparts but it did not work as expected (it opned pdf very nicely but tried to open other things as well). And second: Is there an easy way to install the cuda framework And or OpenCL?12:48
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PT_DreamerHi all, just upgraded to 13.10 and hate the new network manager, can anyone tell me how to get the old one back?13:56
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NoobcakeHi, I just updated to 13.10 but my sound is not working. I have an Intel integrated sound card. If I go to the KDE audio settings I can see that the internal audio is greyed out and it's using "Dummy output". If I go to Audio Hardware setup I can't select my sound card. Can anyone give me some pointers to resolve this please? Thanks in advance.14:05
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schimpanskyHi guys. Im having some problems with kubuntu 13.10. one of them is that i cant use muon software center. everytime i open it it close down after some minutes. anybody have some ide'why? please help me.14:39
schimpanskyHi guys. Im having some problems with kubuntu 13.10. one of them is that i cant use muon software  │ Avihay14:50
schimpansky                     | center. everytime i open it it close down after some minutes. anybody have some ide'why? please    │ away14:50
schimpansky                     | help me14:50
schimpansky                     | center. everytime i open it it close down after some seconds. anybody have some ide'why? please    │ away14:51
schimpanskyHi guys. Im having some problems with kubuntu 13.10. one of them is that i cant use muon software center. everytime i open it it close down after some seconds. anybody have some ide'why? please help me.15:08
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wr3dschimpansky: i was having the same issues, after updates it got fixed15:22
wr3dschimpansky: you can try running it from command line to give you clues15:23
schimpanskythx. i try that15:37
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schimpanskyupdating the system didnt work15:41
schimpanskysorry guys. i have updated the system now.  i ment that opdating the system didnt solve my problem.15:44
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cerhi everybody how do you sandbox an application on kubuntu / ubuntu?15:55
cerand how do you control the prequency of the processor? All the previous tools and toys do not work anymore (indicator-cpufreq, cpufreq and so on)15:59
EugeneKhello. can anyone help me with Kubuntu? I'm new user16:21
thingol_hi EugeneK, please state your problem and we'll do our very best to help you16:22
EugeneKin Muon software center i can't see flash player installer16:26
thingol_have you tried to search with the "flash" keyword so to shorten the list of packages presented ?16:28
EugeneKi tried search in Muon by keyword.16:29
EugeneKsomeone advice me install "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras " now flash player works. Thanks all :)16:33
rosco_yHow can I record a desktop session (console application + audio to speakers) to a ogg file?16:53
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PT_Dreamerhi all19:39
PT_Dreamerupgraded to 13.10 and the new network manager isnt showing any details, not even wireless strenght, any help fixing this?19:39
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lemondrophi, i have mint 15 kde, & kvpnc is crashing upon import of my vpn provider's config files. the kde crash handler opens, and it says Details: Executable: kvpnc PID 4313 Signal: Aborted (6)19:54
lemondropi'm still able to use the tray icon for my network to connect pretty quickly.. does anyone know if this is an easy fix?19:55
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guest-lJMjYiI am having a display and audio issue. In my user account, i had hooked up my HMDI out to a TV, now disconnect from TV, and even on reboot my user account shows a blank screen. Logging in as guest all works fine,21:50
guest-lJMjYiAudio in reg account is fubar, in guest it is fine21:50
guest-lJMjYiThis happened in the 13.10 uprade21:51
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valorieguest-lJMjYi: have you looked into your ~/.kde folder to see what might be causing that?21:53
guest-lJMjYii don't know what to look for21:54
valorieyou can do that from a console21:54
valoriei'll look at mine and see if anything looks likely21:54
valoriealthough since I only have a laptop, your setup will likely have entries that mine does not21:55
valoriehowever, a cat ~/.kde/share/config is a good place to start21:56
guest-lJMjYiI ma having some fubar with my beats audio as well. as a guest, all is well, but regular acct, my speakers are wonky, the bass is not playing, and the mute key light stays on whether muted or not21:56
guest-lJMjYivalorie: mine is a laptop as well HP envy21:56
valorieso one thing to do is look at the guest account config folder, and compare it to your user version21:58
valoriehard to keep logging in back and forth, I know21:58
valoriesometimes I just take a photo with my cell phone, lol21:58
guest-lJMjYiI can do that with dolphin  root mode split screen no?21:59
guest-lJMjYiit is asking me for guest password22:00
guest-lJMjYiHow can I log into the console as my regular user?22:00
valorieoh, I never thought of doing that; I suppose you can!22:00
valorieare you saying you have no X even, when you try to log in as yourself?22:01
valorieno access to a console?22:01
guest-lJMjYiI got it, when using konsole it is as my guest, su regaccount switches user to the reg account22:02
guest-lJMjYithen I can sudo dolphin22:02
guest-lJMjYiNow where are my guest config files stored?22:02
Addleguest-lJMjYi: Use kdesudo, not sudo for GUI apps.22:02
valoriethis is where it would get confusing, but it will be in home/guest/.kde22:03
valorieoooo, good call Addle22:03
valorieI didn't catch that22:03
guest-lJMjYiWhy is that?22:03
* valorie goes to get coffee22:03
Addleguest-lJMjYi: It can end up creating root owned files in your user home directory, which can lead to issues later.22:03
Addleguest-lJMjYi: kdesudo is meant to avoid that.22:04
guest-lJMjYiAddle: doing that says no protocol specified, kdesudo cannot connect to X server22:04
guest-lJMjYiwhereas sudo started dolphin22:04
Addleguest-lJMjYi: Huh, let's see... You said you did an 'su regaccount'? Perhaps 'su - regaccount' is why it's complaining. Sort of a guess.22:06
Addleguest-lJMjYi: The dash means su will make a new login shell. Otherwise, it keeps your previous environment variables.22:07
guest-lJMjYisu -regaccount gives the error invalid option22:08
guest-lJMjYilet's just get the config squared away to look for difference, as su dolphin if I just rmember to verify ownership and settings of file it will work22:09
Addleguest-lJMjYi: Put a space on each side of the dash.22:09
guest-lJMjYisame errors22:10
guest-lJMjYiwhere are the default guest config files that would control the display22:10
Addleguest-lJMjYi: Sure, just be aware of the potential issues if you end up with root owned files in the wrong place. If something goes wrong, it'll be a good first thing to check.22:10
guest-lJMjYiMakes sense22:11
guest-lJMjYiKeep a log of the files I made / corrected etc22:11
guest-lJMjYiwritten that is22:11
guest-lJMjYiAddle: any idea which file would be causing the display hangup on my regular acct, and not in guest22:12
gessi116280309622:12
Addleguest-lJMjYi: Not really. I think valorie had some ideas.22:13
guest-lJMjYiAddle: in my reg account all was fine I thought after my upgrade, but after connecting to my TV via HDMI, I am having display issues. When not plugged in, at times it acts like it is, so my laptop screen is blank, but plugging in show on the TV22:13
guest-lJMjYivalorie: any idea where to start checking for the video file discrepency?22:13
guest-lJMjYiAddle: do you know where the guest config file are?22:14
Addleguest-lJMjYi: I wonder if your laptop doesn't have some key combination to switch displays that might work here.22:14
guest-lJMjYiI have tried, I have the display icon on a key (f4) but pressing that doesn't do anything22:15
Addleguest-lJMjYi: Something in .kde/shre/config was valorie's first suggestion.22:15
guest-lJMjYipp22:15
guest-lJMjYipp22:15
Addleguest-lJMjYi: Was worth a shot :)22:15
guest-lJMjYiyep. Even in messing with the system settings, display in the reg acct doesn't work :-(22:15
guest-lJMjYisomething is FUBAR. Dolphin in guest is very fast, in my reg account, slow22:17
guest-lJMjYithat is for a later date22:17
valorieI didn't see a file in my .kde that jumped out22:20
guest-lJMjYihmm22:20
guest-lJMjYidarn22:20
valoriehowever, it has to be there somewhere, or guest wouldn't work22:20
guest-lJMjYido you know where the guest config files are?22:20
valorieso, you can just .... rename your .kde22:20
valorieas I said, they will be in /home/guest/.kde22:21
guest-lJMjYiI don't show a /home/guest22:21
valoriethat is painting with a pretty broad brush, though, and you either have to move stuff back into your freshly created .kde22:21
valorieor reset everything else up22:21
valoriefrom root?22:21
valorieyou should be able to see all users22:22
guest-lJMjYiyep I can only see my reg account22:22
guest-lJMjYino guest directory22:22
valorieI mean, whatever you called guest22:22
guest-lJMjYimaybe in tmp?22:22
valorieif you actually set up a guest account, with password, there should be something22:23
valorieor nothing would work22:23
guest-lJMjYinope, just hte default guest login. I found it in temp, name of guest session22:23
valorieah22:23
valorieok, that's not really a new user, then22:23
guest-lJMjYibut in .kde I don't see any config files22:24
guest-lJMjYihmm22:24
guest-lJMjYimust be from somewhere22:24
valorieshare/config22:24
valorienot .kde/config22:24
valorieso ~/.kde/share/config22:24
Addleguest-lJMjYi: Wait, isn't it your non-guest account that's broken? Those are the .kde files you should be looking at.22:24
guest-lJMjYiyes Addle, but I want to compare them to something that works, like guest22:25
valorieAddle: guest-lJMjYi had the idea of comparing them side to side22:25
Addleguest-lJMjYi: Oh, ok. Gotcha. :)22:25
valorieI've never tried doing that22:25
guest-lJMjYivalorie: that is where it is .kde/config/share are 81 items22:25
guest-lJMjYiwhat file would be the display? x server?22:26
valorieI see a file in home, called Xauthority, but I don't know what that is22:29
valoriegoogling22:29
valorielike: ~/.Xauthority22:29
guest-lJMjYiMe as well. I found a plasma-desktoprc that links to other files22:29
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valoriehttp://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.1/doc/xauth.1.html22:31
valorieI don't think you are getting as far as plasma booting up22:31
valoriex is freaking out22:31
guest-lJMjYiI get the splash screen, I log into my reg account, I get the blue block, the disk drive fades in, then . .  nothing22:31
valoriebut I have no experience this far down the stack22:31
valorieguest-lJMjYi: you might look in /var/log for something like xsession errors or close22:33
valorieand see if there is anything interesting22:33
valoriein console ls /var/log22:33
guest-lJMjYiok22:33
valorieand then cat the interesting file(s)22:34
valorieguest-lJMjYi: any luck?22:40
guest-lJMjYithat xauth files are not text files :-(22:41
guest-lJMjYianother reference that looked promising was in /etc/kde4/kdm$ but in my kde4 dir, there is nothing22:44
valorieno, that's why I provided you the URL ref22:45
guest-lJMjYiI do see a ~/.kde/share/config/kxrandrc22:45
valorieI have no such file22:46
valoriethat's a text file, so check it out22:46
guest-lJMjYiBoom that might do it, as it says HMDI active = true22:46
guest-lJMjYime take that to false and see22:47
valorieesp. if there is a diff between guest and your user22:47
valoriewow, promising!22:47
guest-lJMjYiit is krandrc,22:48
apbAnybody know of a good mail program?  I've given pretty much given up on Thunderbird.22:48
apbs/given//22:49
guest-lJMjYino krandrc in the /tmp/guest-lJMjYi/.kde/share/config/krandrc  Don't know where guest is getting that from. I will turn of HDMI active and see what goes, can always log into guest again22:49
guest-lJMjYihere it goes22:49
valoriegood luck, guest-lJMjYi22:50
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bjr-testvalorie: no good :-(23:02
bjr-testI created a new account vs working in guest to see if I can resolve it23:03
valorieand?23:03
bjr-testsame thing happened23:03
valoriedisappointing that the easy way didn't work23:03
bjr-testyep23:04
bjr-testinteresting that the new account doesn't ahve the krandrc23:04
valorieso, if you want advice: log out of your regular account, and mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old23:04
valoriein a console23:04
valorieoh, or: just delete that krandrc altogether23:04
valorieagain, while logged out from your account23:05
valoriethat is worth a try first23:05
valorieand by delete, I mean rename23:05
bjr-testI am logged out of the old acct23:05
bjr-testok23:05
valorieyou will have to log out of KDE altogether23:05
bjr-testInteresting in new account, in the root dolphin, I can not access the original user .kde :-(23:06
valorieso mv ~/.kde/share/config/krandrc to -old23:06
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valoriemv ~/.kde/share/config/krandrc mv ~/.kde/share/config/krandrc-old23:06
valorieoops,23:07
valoriemv ~/.kde/share/config/krandrc ~/.kde/share/config/krandrc-old23:07
valoriedon't leave that second mv in there!23:07
bjr-testI renamed that krandrc23:09
bjr-testnow try to get into that acct?23:09
valorieyup23:10
bjrohanvalorie: I came home to be able to try and plug into my TV and get my original acct to reset. no such luc k so far23:36
jalcineapb: try KMAil23:37
valoriebjrohan: I guess try either the kubuntu-user mail list or the forums23:40
valorieor file a bug against krandr23:40
valoriesee if you can get some devel input about what's going on23:41
valorieplugging into your TV shouldn't throw kub. into a tizzy like this23:41
bjrohanIt didn't in 13.04, just since the upgrade to 13.1023:41
bjrohansame with my beats audio23:41
valoriesure, and that could point to a kernel change instead, maybe23:42
valoriebut i'll bet the krandr devel would know better23:42
bjrohanokay. thanks for your help. Now in the system setting dsiplay, if I uncheck the TV that is connected, and unplug my laptop screen gets lines in it :-(23:43
bjrohanvery very odd23:43
valorieI read this chan faithfully, and I've not seen anyone else with your situation23:43
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jalcinewhat kind of laptop is he using?23:48
jalcinevery odd23:48
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