[00:15] <wr3d> hi all
[00:46] <Andalias> Why kde 4.11 without login session sound?
[01:10] <dougiel> I did some sudo stuff for bluetooth and my bluetooth icon disappeared from my settings panel...any suggestions?
[01:23] <MangaKaDenza> mentlegen... I have yet another problem
[01:25] <MangaKaDenza> so I try to do sudo apt-get install kde* but it says I have held broken packages
[01:26] <MangaKaDenza> how do I fix this
[01:44] <valorie> dz
[01:44] <valorie> oops
[01:48] <dan_l> Hi.  Has anybody experienced muon software center crashing since upgrading?
[01:49] <[dz]> yep
[01:49] <dan_l> and how did you fix it?
[01:49] <dan_l> or did you not?
[01:49] <[dz]> nope
[01:50] <[dz]> in fact, my entire kubuntu environment is ... pretty messed up
[01:50] <dan_l> any other symptoms?
[01:50] <[dz]> lets just say... sudo apt-get remove cups*
[01:51] <dan_l> oh dear.
[01:51] <dan_l> so you upgraded and you're totally hosed?
[01:52] <[dz]> well... its complicated...
[01:52] <[dz]> my thing only runs when I do a recovery
[01:52] <[dz]> like
[01:52] <[dz]> boot in recovery
[01:52] <[dz]> mode
[01:52] <FloodBotK1> [dz]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:52] <[dz]> and in unity, as of a few hours ago, its slowed down to hell
[01:53] <[dz]> kde is... missing in action, and kubuntu is unusuable until further notice... and the only working thing is Xubuntu
[01:54] <[dz]> so yeah, I'm pretty well
[01:56] <dan_l> well I hate to say it, but did you try reinstalling?
[01:57] <[dz]> BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
[01:57] <[dz]> yes
[01:57] <[dz]> sudo apt-get remove kde*
[01:57] <[dz]> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu*
[01:57] <[dz]> then autoremoves
[01:57] <[dz]> and other stuff
[01:57] <[dz]> and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu*
[01:59] <dan_l> it might be time to burn the village dude
[02:00] <[dz]> ?
[02:00] <dan_l> ya know, rmrf
[02:00] <[dz]> o.0
[02:00] <[dz]> butbutbut...
[02:00] <[dz]> butt
[02:00] <[dz]> I already set up mai stuffzor
[02:00] <[dz]> ;-;
[02:01] <dan_l> I have an xppro and a win 7 vbox for work stuff.  It kills me too, but once every other year or so, it's time to click the button
[03:51] <wr3d> shoot, ownCloud is so easy to install on Kubuntu 3.10, awesome!
[04:41] <K_user> Hi
[04:45] <K_user> Hello! i'm running Kubuntu Live USB now and i can't see my HDD in filemanager. Tell me how to get access to the hard drives? I do not see them in the manager. Thanks
[04:49] <apb> Across the bottom of my screen is the task list panel.  Mousing over each item causes a menu to "drop up".  Those "dropups" are translucent.  How can I make them opaque?  kubuntu 12.04
[05:03] <cretsiah> can kubuntu play all media files? including flash
[06:28] <mucho> hi
[07:43] <haxe__> hallo
[07:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:19] <georgelappies> hi all, I am experiencing a black screen delay when login in to KDE before the desktop loads. This is bugging me to now end as the login always was much faster with a smooth transition fade effect to the desktop. Very pretty indeed. However since using KDE4.11 on Kubuntu 13.10 this blackscreen at login became an issue? I have confirmed this issue on another machine with an ATI display as my main display is NVIDIA both have same issue. Is this a
[08:19] <georgelappies> known regression?
[11:03] <drbobb> hey guys, ever since the upgrade to 13.04 my personal KDE settings have been somewhat f***ed. It shows by no logout or reboot options appearing on the exit dialog, I have no access to those operations through any GUI.
[11:04] <drbobb> Guess I could fix this by wiping clean all KDE settings, but I don't want to lose saved passwords, addressbook etc. I there some less drastic fix?
[11:06] <drbobb> I was sort-of hoping 13.10 would fix this for me, but nope.
[11:10] <ct529> drbobb: do you know what would you like to save?
[11:11] <drbobb> ct529: well that's part of the problem, one would have to know pretty well what is saved by KDE and where
[11:14] <drbobb> I'd really rather wipe just those settings that are responsible for the breakage, and leave all the rest, if I knew how to do that
[11:15] <drbobb> it's highly annoying to be unable to logout or reboot, other than via powering off
[11:22] <drbobb> I am also having issues with the BCM4313 wifi in my laptop
[11:22] <drbobb> it works pretty well with my home router using WPA personal
[11:23] <drbobb> but not at all with the office wifi, on WPA2 enterprise
[11:23] <drbobb> the setting I use are correct and were eorking on 13.04
[11:25] <monkeyjuice> drbobb:  i would try making a new user and log into that user to see if the system works with that user . might just be your user account is messed up
[11:29] <drbobb> monkeyjuice: i'm sure it is the case that the settings for my account are messed up, my question is how to fix them without losing all of them
[11:34] <drbobb> I'm using the wl driver for my broadcom wireless, should I perhaps switch to a different driver?
[11:38] <ct529> drbobb: do you know whether the system is recognising the adapter correctly?
[11:39] <drbobb> ct529: well it works with *some* (or most) access points, so..?
[11:40] <ct529> drbobb: could you please do lspci | grep -i wirel on your system? It is difficult to answer without knowing the adapter
[11:40] <drbobb> from another angle, the output of lshw or lspci seems correct
[11:41] <drbobb> ct529: I already said it was BCM4313, look above
[11:42] <ct529> drbobb: yes, I know, what I need to know is if your system RECOGNISES it as a BCM4313
[11:43] <ct529> drbobb: if your system rocognises it as somehting else it could work in some siuations and not in others
[11:43] <drbobb> ct529: I already said so
[11:44] <ct529> drbobb: where did you say it?
[11:45] <drbobb> [13:40:46] <drbobb> from another angle, the output of lshw or lspci seems correct
[11:46] <ct529> drbobb: well, we need to see it .... we would also need to see the output of lsmod to help, and of uname -ram, to make sure the correct module is loaded
[11:47] <drbobb> $ lsmod |grep wl
[11:47] <drbobb> wl                   4207474  0
[11:47] <drbobb> lib80211               14352  2 wl,lib80211_crypt_tkip
[11:47] <drbobb> cfg80211              479757  1 wl
[11:47] <FloodBotK1> drbobb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:47] <mparillo> Andalias: Please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1214668
[11:47] <ct529> drbobb: it is really difficult to diagnose the probelm and propose a solution without seeing those data. Unfortunately, now I have to go. Pleas paetebinit!!!!
[11:48] <ct529> drbobb: with the correct information, people will certainly be able to help you!
[11:48] <ct529> brb
[12:48] <anubis> Hello guys, i just instaled Kubuntu and i am pretty happy about it. Just a few questions: First of all: rekonq has very nice pdf-support. Is there some way to have the same behaviour in chromium browser? I once tried kparts but it did not work as expected (it opned pdf very nicely but tried to open other things as well). And second: Is there an easy way to install the cuda framework And or OpenCL?
[13:56] <PT_Dreamer> Hi all, just upgraded to 13.10 and hate the new network manager, can anyone tell me how to get the old one back?
[14:05] <Noobcake> Hi, I just updated to 13.10 but my sound is not working. I have an Intel integrated sound card. If I go to the KDE audio settings I can see that the internal audio is greyed out and it's using "Dummy output". If I go to Audio Hardware setup I can't select my sound card. Can anyone give me some pointers to resolve this please? Thanks in advance.
[14:39] <schimpansky> Hi guys. Im having some problems with kubuntu 13.10. one of them is that i cant use muon software center. everytime i open it it close down after some minutes. anybody have some ide'why? please help me.
[14:50] <schimpansky> Hi guys. Im having some problems with kubuntu 13.10. one of them is that i cant use muon software  │ Avihay
[14:50] <schimpansky>                      | center. everytime i open it it close down after some minutes. anybody have some ide'why? please    │ away
[14:50] <schimpansky>                      | help me
[14:51] <schimpansky>                      | center. everytime i open it it close down after some seconds. anybody have some ide'why? please    │ away
[15:08] <schimpansky> Hi guys. Im having some problems with kubuntu 13.10. one of them is that i cant use muon software center. everytime i open it it close down after some seconds. anybody have some ide'why? please help me.
[15:22] <wr3d> schimpansky: i was having the same issues, after updates it got fixed
[15:23] <wr3d> schimpansky: you can try running it from command line to give you clues
[15:37] <schimpansky> thx. i try that
[15:41] <schimpansky> updating the system didnt work
[15:44] <schimpansky> sorry guys. i have updated the system now.  i ment that opdating the system didnt solve my problem.
[15:55] <cer> hi everybody how do you sandbox an application on kubuntu / ubuntu?
[15:59] <cer> and how do you control the prequency of the processor? All the previous tools and toys do not work anymore (indicator-cpufreq, cpufreq and so on)
[16:21] <EugeneK> hello. can anyone help me with Kubuntu? I'm new user
[16:22] <thingol_> hi EugeneK, please state your problem and we'll do our very best to help you
[16:26] <EugeneK> in Muon software center i can't see flash player installer
[16:28] <thingol_> have you tried to search with the "flash" keyword so to shorten the list of packages presented ?
[16:29] <EugeneK> i tried search in Muon by keyword.
[16:33] <EugeneK> someone advice me install "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras " now flash player works. Thanks all :)
[16:53] <rosco_y> How can I record a desktop session (console application + audio to speakers) to a ogg file?
[19:39] <PT_Dreamer> hi all
[19:39] <PT_Dreamer> upgraded to 13.10 and the new network manager isnt showing any details, not even wireless strenght, any help fixing this?
[19:54] <lemondrop> hi, i have mint 15 kde, & kvpnc is crashing upon import of my vpn provider's config files. the kde crash handler opens, and it says Details: Executable: kvpnc PID 4313 Signal: Aborted (6)
[19:55] <lemondrop> i'm still able to use the tray icon for my network to connect pretty quickly.. does anyone know if this is an easy fix?
[21:50] <guest-lJMjYi> I am having a display and audio issue. In my user account, i had hooked up my HMDI out to a TV, now disconnect from TV, and even on reboot my user account shows a blank screen. Logging in as guest all works fine,
[21:50] <guest-lJMjYi> Audio in reg account is fubar, in guest it is fine
[21:51] <guest-lJMjYi> This happened in the 13.10 uprade
[21:53] <valorie> guest-lJMjYi: have you looked into your ~/.kde folder to see what might be causing that?
[21:54] <guest-lJMjYi> i don't know what to look for
[21:54] <valorie> you can do that from a console
[21:54] <valorie> i'll look at mine and see if anything looks likely
[21:55] <valorie> although since I only have a laptop, your setup will likely have entries that mine does not
[21:56] <valorie> however, a cat ~/.kde/share/config is a good place to start
[21:56] <guest-lJMjYi> I ma having some fubar with my beats audio as well. as a guest, all is well, but regular acct, my speakers are wonky, the bass is not playing, and the mute key light stays on whether muted or not
[21:56] <guest-lJMjYi> valorie: mine is a laptop as well HP envy
[21:58] <valorie> so one thing to do is look at the guest account config folder, and compare it to your user version
[21:58] <valorie> hard to keep logging in back and forth, I know
[21:58] <valorie> sometimes I just take a photo with my cell phone, lol
[21:59] <guest-lJMjYi> I can do that with dolphin  root mode split screen no?
[22:00] <guest-lJMjYi> it is asking me for guest password
[22:00] <guest-lJMjYi> How can I log into the console as my regular user?
[22:00] <valorie> oh, I never thought of doing that; I suppose you can!
[22:01] <valorie> are you saying you have no X even, when you try to log in as yourself?
[22:01] <valorie> no access to a console?
[22:02] <guest-lJMjYi> I got it, when using konsole it is as my guest, su regaccount switches user to the reg account
[22:02] <guest-lJMjYi> then I can sudo dolphin
[22:02] <guest-lJMjYi> Now where are my guest config files stored?
[22:02] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Use kdesudo, not sudo for GUI apps.
[22:03] <valorie> this is where it would get confusing, but it will be in home/guest/.kde
[22:03] <valorie> oooo, good call Addle
[22:03] <valorie> I didn't catch that
[22:03] <guest-lJMjYi> Why is that?
[22:03]  * valorie goes to get coffee
[22:03] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: It can end up creating root owned files in your user home directory, which can lead to issues later.
[22:04] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: kdesudo is meant to avoid that.
[22:04] <guest-lJMjYi> Addle: doing that says no protocol specified, kdesudo cannot connect to X server
[22:04] <guest-lJMjYi> whereas sudo started dolphin
[22:06] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Huh, let's see... You said you did an 'su regaccount'? Perhaps 'su - regaccount' is why it's complaining. Sort of a guess.
[22:07] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: The dash means su will make a new login shell. Otherwise, it keeps your previous environment variables.
[22:08] <guest-lJMjYi> su -regaccount gives the error invalid option
[22:09] <guest-lJMjYi> let's just get the config squared away to look for difference, as su dolphin if I just rmember to verify ownership and settings of file it will work
[22:09] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Put a space on each side of the dash.
[22:10] <guest-lJMjYi> same errors
[22:10] <guest-lJMjYi> where are the default guest config files that would control the display
[22:10] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Sure, just be aware of the potential issues if you end up with root owned files in the wrong place. If something goes wrong, it'll be a good first thing to check.
[22:11] <guest-lJMjYi> Makes sense
[22:11] <guest-lJMjYi> Keep a log of the files I made / corrected etc
[22:11] <guest-lJMjYi> written that is
[22:12] <guest-lJMjYi> Addle: any idea which file would be causing the display hangup on my regular acct, and not in guest
[22:12] <gessi> 1162803096
[22:13] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Not really. I think valorie had some ideas.
[22:13] <guest-lJMjYi> Addle: in my reg account all was fine I thought after my upgrade, but after connecting to my TV via HDMI, I am having display issues. When not plugged in, at times it acts like it is, so my laptop screen is blank, but plugging in show on the TV
[22:13] <guest-lJMjYi> valorie: any idea where to start checking for the video file discrepency?
[22:14] <guest-lJMjYi> Addle: do you know where the guest config file are?
[22:14] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: I wonder if your laptop doesn't have some key combination to switch displays that might work here.
[22:15] <guest-lJMjYi> I have tried, I have the display icon on a key (f4) but pressing that doesn't do anything
[22:15] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Something in .kde/shre/config was valorie's first suggestion.
[22:15] <guest-lJMjYi> pp
[22:15] <guest-lJMjYi> pp
[22:15] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Was worth a shot :)
[22:15] <guest-lJMjYi> yep. Even in messing with the system settings, display in the reg acct doesn't work :-(
[22:17] <guest-lJMjYi> something is FUBAR. Dolphin in guest is very fast, in my reg account, slow
[22:17] <guest-lJMjYi> that is for a later date
[22:20] <valorie> I didn't see a file in my .kde that jumped out
[22:20] <guest-lJMjYi> hmm
[22:20] <guest-lJMjYi> darn
[22:20] <valorie> however, it has to be there somewhere, or guest wouldn't work
[22:20] <guest-lJMjYi> do you know where the guest config files are?
[22:20] <valorie> so, you can just .... rename your .kde
[22:21] <valorie> as I said, they will be in /home/guest/.kde
[22:21] <guest-lJMjYi> I don't show a /home/guest
[22:21] <valorie> that is painting with a pretty broad brush, though, and you either have to move stuff back into your freshly created .kde
[22:21] <valorie> or reset everything else up
[22:21] <valorie> from root?
[22:22] <valorie> you should be able to see all users
[22:22] <guest-lJMjYi> yep I can only see my reg account
[22:22] <guest-lJMjYi> no guest directory
[22:22] <valorie> I mean, whatever you called guest
[22:22] <guest-lJMjYi> maybe in tmp?
[22:23] <valorie> if you actually set up a guest account, with password, there should be something
[22:23] <valorie> or nothing would work
[22:23] <guest-lJMjYi> nope, just hte default guest login. I found it in temp, name of guest session
[22:23] <valorie> ah
[22:23] <valorie> ok, that's not really a new user, then
[22:24] <guest-lJMjYi> but in .kde I don't see any config files
[22:24] <guest-lJMjYi> hmm
[22:24] <guest-lJMjYi> must be from somewhere
[22:24] <valorie> share/config
[22:24] <valorie> not .kde/config
[22:24] <valorie> so ~/.kde/share/config
[22:24] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Wait, isn't it your non-guest account that's broken? Those are the .kde files you should be looking at.
[22:25] <guest-lJMjYi> yes Addle, but I want to compare them to something that works, like guest
[22:25] <valorie> Addle: guest-lJMjYi had the idea of comparing them side to side
[22:25] <Addle> guest-lJMjYi: Oh, ok. Gotcha. :)
[22:25] <valorie> I've never tried doing that
[22:25] <guest-lJMjYi> valorie: that is where it is .kde/config/share are 81 items
[22:26] <guest-lJMjYi> what file would be the display? x server?
[22:29] <valorie> I see a file in home, called Xauthority, but I don't know what that is
[22:29] <valorie> googling
[22:29] <valorie> like: ~/.Xauthority
[22:29] <guest-lJMjYi> Me as well. I found a plasma-desktoprc that links to other files
[22:31] <valorie> http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.1/doc/xauth.1.html
[22:31] <valorie> I don't think you are getting as far as plasma booting up
[22:31] <valorie> x is freaking out
[22:31] <guest-lJMjYi> I get the splash screen, I log into my reg account, I get the blue block, the disk drive fades in, then . .  nothing
[22:31] <valorie> but I have no experience this far down the stack
[22:33] <valorie> guest-lJMjYi: you might look in /var/log for something like xsession errors or close
[22:33] <valorie> and see if there is anything interesting
[22:33] <valorie> in console ls /var/log
[22:33] <guest-lJMjYi> ok
[22:34] <valorie> and then cat the interesting file(s)
[22:40] <valorie> guest-lJMjYi: any luck?
[22:41] <guest-lJMjYi> that xauth files are not text files :-(
[22:44] <guest-lJMjYi> another reference that looked promising was in /etc/kde4/kdm$ but in my kde4 dir, there is nothing
[22:45] <valorie> no, that's why I provided you the URL ref
[22:45] <guest-lJMjYi> I do see a ~/.kde/share/config/kxrandrc
[22:46] <valorie> I have no such file
[22:46] <valorie> that's a text file, so check it out
[22:46] <guest-lJMjYi> Boom that might do it, as it says HMDI active = true
[22:47] <guest-lJMjYi> me take that to false and see
[22:47] <valorie> esp. if there is a diff between guest and your user
[22:47] <valorie> wow, promising!
[22:48] <guest-lJMjYi> it is krandrc,
[22:48] <apb> Anybody know of a good mail program?  I've given pretty much given up on Thunderbird.
[22:49] <apb> s/given//
[22:49] <guest-lJMjYi> no krandrc in the /tmp/guest-lJMjYi/.kde/share/config/krandrc  Don't know where guest is getting that from. I will turn of HDMI active and see what goes, can always log into guest again
[22:49] <guest-lJMjYi> here it goes
[22:50] <valorie> good luck, guest-lJMjYi
[23:02] <bjr-test> valorie: no good :-(
[23:03] <bjr-test> I created a new account vs working in guest to see if I can resolve it
[23:03] <valorie> and?
[23:03] <bjr-test> same thing happened
[23:03] <valorie> disappointing that the easy way didn't work
[23:04] <bjr-test> yep
[23:04] <bjr-test> interesting that the new account doesn't ahve the krandrc
[23:04] <valorie> so, if you want advice: log out of your regular account, and mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old
[23:04] <valorie> in a console
[23:04] <valorie> oh, or: just delete that krandrc altogether
[23:05] <valorie> again, while logged out from your account
[23:05] <valorie> that is worth a try first
[23:05] <valorie> and by delete, I mean rename
[23:05] <bjr-test> I am logged out of the old acct
[23:05] <bjr-test> ok
[23:05] <valorie> you will have to log out of KDE altogether
[23:06] <bjr-test> Interesting in new account, in the root dolphin, I can not access the original user .kde :-(
[23:06] <valorie> so mv ~/.kde/share/config/krandrc to -old
[23:06] <valorie> mv ~/.kde/share/config/krandrc mv ~/.kde/share/config/krandrc-old
[23:07] <valorie> oops,
[23:07] <valorie> mv ~/.kde/share/config/krandrc ~/.kde/share/config/krandrc-old
[23:07] <valorie> don't leave that second mv in there!
[23:09] <bjr-test> I renamed that krandrc
[23:09] <bjr-test> now try to get into that acct?
[23:10] <valorie> yup
[23:36] <bjrohan> valorie: I came home to be able to try and plug into my TV and get my original acct to reset. no such luc k so far
[23:37] <jalcine> apb: try KMAil
[23:40] <valorie> bjrohan: I guess try either the kubuntu-user mail list or the forums
[23:40] <valorie> or file a bug against krandr
[23:41] <valorie> see if you can get some devel input about what's going on
[23:41] <valorie> plugging into your TV shouldn't throw kub. into a tizzy like this
[23:41] <bjrohan> It didn't in 13.04, just since the upgrade to 13.10
[23:41] <bjrohan> same with my beats audio
[23:42] <valorie> sure, and that could point to a kernel change instead, maybe
[23:42] <valorie> but i'll bet the krandr devel would know better
[23:43] <bjrohan> okay. thanks for your help. Now in the system setting dsiplay, if I uncheck the TV that is connected, and unplug my laptop screen gets lines in it :-(
[23:43] <bjrohan> very very odd
[23:43] <valorie> I read this chan faithfully, and I've not seen anyone else with your situation
[23:48] <jalcine> what kind of laptop is he using?
[23:48] <jalcine> very odd