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mnubhi02:07
mnubis it ok to set swap partition to twice my ram02:07
holsteinmnub: sure02:19
mnubfile system type as ext 402:19
mnub?02:20
holsteindoesnt matter.. just make a swap partition in addition to your other ones02:20
mnubthere  are no swaps02:20
holsteinmnub: thats why you are wanting to manually create one, correct?02:21
holsteinmnub: it's still a lot like this http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/04/manual-disk-partitioning-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04/02:22
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skippythekangoomorning...08:47
skippythekangoopuis avoir une invitation pour #lubuntu-fr, svp ?08:48
leszekhi11:51
Unit193Howdy.11:52
melodiehi, does someone know how programs are displayd in the Menu System rather than in Preferences?20:16
ianorlin.desktop are what I think makes them work20:24
melodieI ask again,  does someone know how programs are displayd in the Menu System rather than in Preferences?21:30
melodieno one ? :)21:32
brainwashmelodie: the Categories= parameter specified in the .desktop app launcher file21:33
melodiehi brainwash21:33
melodieso why does it show in Lubuntu and not in Openbox with Lxpanel + lxmenu-data installed, but it shows in Preferences? This is really my question21:33
brainwashtake a look at he .desktop files located in /usr/share/applications/21:33
melodiealready done21:33
melodieof course they are the same desktop files: ie synaptic.desktop, gparted.destkop...21:34
melodiebut don't fall into the same category menu and I can't seem to find why21:34
brainwashdifferent menu files?21:34
melodieno of course, they come from the same packages/same repos21:35
brainwashno clue then21:35
melodietoo bad :-(21:36
melodieanother examples are "users and groups", grub customizer, usb creator-gtk : all should be in System, as in Lubuntu, but they all fall into Preferences21:37
brainwashlubuntu ships a custom lxde-applications.menu21:37
melodieoh ho !21:38
melodiethat's interesting21:38
brainwashsee /etc/xdg/lubuntu/menus/21:38
melodiethen I will give it a try21:38
melodieyes ok !21:38
brainwashit's provided by the package lubuntu-default-settings21:38
melodiethanks for the tip21:38
brainwash:)21:38
melodiegreat!21:38
melodieI'll try it immediatly21:39
melodieI'm downloading from Synaptic now, with the no-install option21:44
ianorlinah that is also where the lxgames menu is kept21:53
impossibleim trying to add a ppa23:05
impossibleW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mumble/release/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found23:05
impossiblewhy no mumble :(23:05
brainwashimpossible: well, contact the PPA maintainer23:07
impossibleokay!23:07
melodiebrainwash : your help has solved my menus!23:19
brainwashmelodie: great :)23:19
melodieI can use it to solve the menus mess in the next remix with openbox I will do that's so great*23:19
melodie!23:19
melodieand Lubuntu starts to be very fast and has lots of possibilities23:20
melodieI was diving into the /etc/xdg/lubuntu directory, there is an incredible work there in the xml files! really amazing23:21
MerisHow can I connect to a X-Radius :: WPA2 network requiring a certificate keypair? The eduroam network at my university requires this and I can't find any correct setting to connect to that network23:25
MerisOn MacOSX I can define a new network connection and things go easy from there. This network connection dialogue seems to lack the required options.23:26
MerisIn fact it's a PEAP network. Would the LEAP network type be a useful entry here?23:27
melodieMeris is it in gnome network manager that you are looking?23:29
melodieand did you also happen to ask at the #ubuntu chan?23:30
impossibledo you all use pidgin for IRC23:31
impossiblewondering23:31
brainwashimpossible: why do you assume this?23:31
brainwashpidgin is only one of many irc clients23:32
impossiblei know, im not assuming. im just asking what people use23:32
impossiblei meant to ask as a question to see what others use.23:33
Merisemelodie, not that I'm aware of, I use OpenBox with LXDE23:33
Merisimpossible, I use X-Chat23:33
melodieI also use Xchat23:34
brainwashI guess #lubuntu-offtopic would be the right place for your question23:34
Merisbrainwash, please address someone in your answer so it's clear who you are addressing with your answer.23:34
melodieMeris it's probably not for you, you are asking a tech question23:35
brainwashyeah, whatever23:35
melodieMeris I would suppose right now you are using an Ethernet connection? Or a connection from elsewhere?23:36
melodieyou might want to check if the gui configuration tool is network-manager23:36
impossiblesound is not playing from my audio jack but rather television. how do i change audio output23:37
melodieI can't help more, I don't know about these network types of setups23:37
Merismelodie, I'm using an Etheternet connection indeed, through Wifi. And it appears I'm using nm-applet, which sounds like network manager. Yet on Ubuntu I do have the right options, not here on Lubuntu though...23:39
melodiewith the same nm-applet?23:39
melodieand the same version of Ubuntu vs Lubuntu?23:39
ianorlinI thought it was the same23:40
Merismelodie, no the version of Ubuntu I use on my Desktop is 12.04, my Lubuntu version I'm using to connect is 13.10. Normally later versions will be more advanced, not the other way around...23:41
melodiewhat is your wifi card, have you checked about the driver, if it is in the distro, if is loaded?23:41
Merismelodie, it *is* loaded, I can connect to my own LAN just fine. My Wifi card is an Airport, I'll look up the details...23:41
melodie" Normally later versions will be more advanced, not the other way around..." // I would not bet, particularly as Ubuntu 12.04 is now 12.04.3 and is a LTS23:41
Merismelodie, my Network card is recognized as an Atheros AR5418 (AR5008E rev. 01)23:42
melodieMeris is no one can help you directly, you might have more luck "playing seven errors game" with the configuration files23:42
* ianorlin tihnks he had this problem when he went to ucla23:42
Merisianorlin, and...did you solve it?23:43
melodieyou might want to look in the files in the directory /etc/network23:43
ianorlinno I graduated23:43
ianorlinI connected to a different network23:43
Merisianorlin, that's always the best solution, but I'm not there yet...:-)23:43
melodieMeris I would even try the stupid way:23:43
ianorlinah23:44
melodieas root "cp -R /etc/network /etc/network-BACKUP"23:44
melodieor mv23:44
melodiebetter mv23:44
melodieand from the other distro copy the whole /etc/network to the Lubuntu distro, and look what it does?23:44
melodieit would just need a reboot23:45
Merismelodie, worth a try I guess. I'll fire up a LiveCD Ubuntu 12.04 and save the file from there.23:45
melodieif you try that make sure you have the right ownership and permissions on the directory copied : don't copy them to a fat32 usb stick for instance23:45
Merismelodie, I can always fix that using a chown, no?23:46
melodieyes, but it's not necessary if you just make a tarball as root23:46
melodiethe content will keep the ownership and permissions23:46
melodiesuch as:23:46
ianorlinchowning stuff can break stuff if yuo are not careful23:47
Merismelodie, that's true...23:47
melodiesudo tar cfvj network.tar.bz2 network23:47
melodiefrom within the /etc directory23:47
melodieand to untar, do it once you have backuped the /etc/network of lubuntu or it will destroy the content23:48
melodiethen you can put the tarball to /etc in lubuntu and do :23:48
Merisianorlin, I'm aware of that, but if there is only one file involved and if I check the rights of the config. file on my present Lubuntu installation, I can use those exact same rights and UID/ GID's23:48
melodiesudo xvfj network.tar.bz223:48
melodiethere is not only one file involved, do a "ls -lR" on /etc/network ?23:49
Merismelodie, thanks, I know how to roll my own tarball, I've done it since 1997 ;-)23:49
melodieok, fine :)23:49
melodieyou started before me /o\ ;-)23:49
ianorlinand me23:49
melodiehow old were you then?23:50
Merismelodie, true... I am not calling you names, I'm thank you! I'm 38 years old/ young.23:50
melodie:D23:50
MerisI'm thank you! => I'm thank>ing< you! <= silly omissions during IRC typing...23:51
melodienp23:51
melodieMeris would you join #lubuntu-offtopic ?23:53
Merismelodie, if everything else fails, I'll just rip out network manager altogether and make my own entries.23:53
melodiea bug report could be nice...23:53
PatrickDickeyHi everyone. Is there an app specific to lubuntu that will allow me to test and read the SMART data on a hard drive?23:57
brainwashPatrickDickey: smartctl, a command-line tool (package smartmontools)23:59
ianorlinnot installed by defualt I don't think searching I found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools23:59

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