=== Noskcaj10 is now known as Noskcaj [02:07] hi [02:07] is it ok to set swap partition to twice my ram [02:19] mnub: sure [02:19] file system type as ext 4 [02:20] ? [02:20] doesnt matter.. just make a swap partition in addition to your other ones [02:20] there are no swaps [02:21] mnub: thats why you are wanting to manually create one, correct? [02:22] mnub: it's still a lot like this http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/04/manual-disk-partitioning-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04/ === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti [08:47] morning... [08:48] puis avoir une invitation pour #lubuntu-fr, svp ? [11:51] hi [11:52] Howdy. [20:16] hi, does someone know how programs are displayd in the Menu System rather than in Preferences? [20:24] .desktop are what I think makes them work [21:30] I ask again, does someone know how programs are displayd in the Menu System rather than in Preferences? [21:32] no one ? :) [21:33] melodie: the Categories= parameter specified in the .desktop app launcher file [21:33] hi brainwash [21:33] so why does it show in Lubuntu and not in Openbox with Lxpanel + lxmenu-data installed, but it shows in Preferences? This is really my question [21:33] take a look at he .desktop files located in /usr/share/applications/ [21:33] already done [21:34] of course they are the same desktop files: ie synaptic.desktop, gparted.destkop... [21:34] but don't fall into the same category menu and I can't seem to find why [21:34] different menu files? [21:35] no of course, they come from the same packages/same repos [21:35] no clue then [21:36] too bad :-( [21:37] another examples are "users and groups", grub customizer, usb creator-gtk : all should be in System, as in Lubuntu, but they all fall into Preferences [21:37] lubuntu ships a custom lxde-applications.menu [21:38] oh ho ! [21:38] that's interesting [21:38] see /etc/xdg/lubuntu/menus/ [21:38] then I will give it a try [21:38] yes ok ! [21:38] it's provided by the package lubuntu-default-settings [21:38] thanks for the tip [21:38] :) [21:38] great! [21:39] I'll try it immediatly [21:44] I'm downloading from Synaptic now, with the no-install option [21:53] ah that is also where the lxgames menu is kept [23:05] im trying to add a ppa [23:05] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mumble/release/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [23:05] why no mumble :( [23:07] impossible: well, contact the PPA maintainer [23:07] okay! [23:19] brainwash : your help has solved my menus! [23:19] melodie: great :) [23:19] I can use it to solve the menus mess in the next remix with openbox I will do that's so great* [23:19] ! [23:20] and Lubuntu starts to be very fast and has lots of possibilities [23:21] I was diving into the /etc/xdg/lubuntu directory, there is an incredible work there in the xml files! really amazing [23:25] How can I connect to a X-Radius :: WPA2 network requiring a certificate keypair? The eduroam network at my university requires this and I can't find any correct setting to connect to that network [23:26] On MacOSX I can define a new network connection and things go easy from there. This network connection dialogue seems to lack the required options. [23:27] In fact it's a PEAP network. Would the LEAP network type be a useful entry here? [23:29] Meris is it in gnome network manager that you are looking? [23:30] and did you also happen to ask at the #ubuntu chan? [23:31] do you all use pidgin for IRC [23:31] wondering [23:31] impossible: why do you assume this? [23:32] pidgin is only one of many irc clients [23:32] i know, im not assuming. im just asking what people use [23:33] i meant to ask as a question to see what others use. [23:33] emelodie, not that I'm aware of, I use OpenBox with LXDE [23:33] impossible, I use X-Chat [23:34] I also use Xchat [23:34] I guess #lubuntu-offtopic would be the right place for your question [23:34] brainwash, please address someone in your answer so it's clear who you are addressing with your answer. [23:35] Meris it's probably not for you, you are asking a tech question [23:35] yeah, whatever [23:36] Meris I would suppose right now you are using an Ethernet connection? Or a connection from elsewhere? [23:36] you might want to check if the gui configuration tool is network-manager [23:37] sound is not playing from my audio jack but rather television. how do i change audio output [23:37] I can't help more, I don't know about these network types of setups [23:39] melodie, I'm using an Etheternet connection indeed, through Wifi. And it appears I'm using nm-applet, which sounds like network manager. Yet on Ubuntu I do have the right options, not here on Lubuntu though... [23:39] with the same nm-applet? [23:39] and the same version of Ubuntu vs Lubuntu? [23:40] I thought it was the same [23:41] melodie, no the version of Ubuntu I use on my Desktop is 12.04, my Lubuntu version I'm using to connect is 13.10. Normally later versions will be more advanced, not the other way around... [23:41] what is your wifi card, have you checked about the driver, if it is in the distro, if is loaded? [23:41] melodie, it *is* loaded, I can connect to my own LAN just fine. My Wifi card is an Airport, I'll look up the details... [23:41] " Normally later versions will be more advanced, not the other way around..." // I would not bet, particularly as Ubuntu 12.04 is now 12.04.3 and is a LTS [23:42] melodie, my Network card is recognized as an Atheros AR5418 (AR5008E rev. 01) [23:42] Meris is no one can help you directly, you might have more luck "playing seven errors game" with the configuration files [23:42] * ianorlin tihnks he had this problem when he went to ucla [23:43] ianorlin, and...did you solve it? [23:43] you might want to look in the files in the directory /etc/network [23:43] no I graduated [23:43] I connected to a different network [23:43] ianorlin, that's always the best solution, but I'm not there yet...:-) [23:43] Meris I would even try the stupid way: [23:44] ah [23:44] as root "cp -R /etc/network /etc/network-BACKUP" [23:44] or mv [23:44] better mv [23:44] and from the other distro copy the whole /etc/network to the Lubuntu distro, and look what it does? [23:45] it would just need a reboot [23:45] melodie, worth a try I guess. I'll fire up a LiveCD Ubuntu 12.04 and save the file from there. [23:45] if you try that make sure you have the right ownership and permissions on the directory copied : don't copy them to a fat32 usb stick for instance [23:46] melodie, I can always fix that using a chown, no? [23:46] yes, but it's not necessary if you just make a tarball as root [23:46] the content will keep the ownership and permissions [23:46] such as: [23:47] chowning stuff can break stuff if yuo are not careful [23:47] melodie, that's true... [23:47] sudo tar cfvj network.tar.bz2 network [23:47] from within the /etc directory [23:48] and to untar, do it once you have backuped the /etc/network of lubuntu or it will destroy the content [23:48] then you can put the tarball to /etc in lubuntu and do : [23:48] ianorlin, I'm aware of that, but if there is only one file involved and if I check the rights of the config. file on my present Lubuntu installation, I can use those exact same rights and UID/ GID's [23:48] sudo xvfj network.tar.bz2 [23:49] there is not only one file involved, do a "ls -lR" on /etc/network ? [23:49] melodie, thanks, I know how to roll my own tarball, I've done it since 1997 ;-) [23:49] ok, fine :) [23:49] you started before me /o\ ;-) [23:49] and me [23:50] how old were you then? [23:50] melodie, true... I am not calling you names, I'm thank you! I'm 38 years old/ young. [23:50] :D [23:51] I'm thank you! => I'm thank>ing< you! <= silly omissions during IRC typing... [23:51] np [23:53] Meris would you join #lubuntu-offtopic ? [23:53] melodie, if everything else fails, I'll just rip out network manager altogether and make my own entries. [23:53] a bug report could be nice... [23:57] Hi everyone. Is there an app specific to lubuntu that will allow me to test and read the SMART data on a hard drive? [23:59] PatrickDickey: smartctl, a command-line tool (package smartmontools) [23:59] not installed by defualt I don't think searching I found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools