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[11:31] <k1l_> i think he did some trolling before
[19:20] <bazhang>  wN (~wN@redhat/jwaterwo)
[19:20] <k1l> yep
[19:20] <bazhang> a bit surprising someone considered "trusted" in that community would want to disrupt ours
[19:23] <LjL> at least under your concept of wanting to disrupt a community, which apparently involves being surprised that someone that you thought was perfectly valid Ubuntu support gets shunned
[19:25] <IdleOne> I think I agree but I am not sure you worded that how you intended, least is not clear to me.
[19:25] <LjL> maybe s/someone/something/ helps
[19:26] <LjL> these days after my fingers have typed about three or four characters they just tab-complete at the body layer
[19:34] <bazhang> the  constant "wat^" repeated, getting well clear of the topic , staying there, calling us bots and then quitting
[19:35] <bazhang> since the channel is the main front/edge for the community, I'm not sure how much more clarity you  need there
[19:36] <bazhang> also, reisio seems to confuse ##linux with #ubuntu
[19:37] <bazhang> user term1,term2,term3 was making some odd comments
[19:38] <LjL> maybe i'm seeing a different log from what you're seeing. i see "^ wat" repeated a grand total of two times; i see technical support, perhaps with some slightly off-topic light-heartnedness that, really, one can expect is acceptable; i see him trying to help with getting iTunes things from Ubuntu (by using VirtualBox or whatever, and i also see him helping other people with things beforehand); and i see him asking *why* that wasn't considered technical
[19:38] <LjL> support, and calling the *bot* a bot, that he felt hassled by
[19:38] <IdleOne> he was helping the user with the itunes question, his answer was probably the best solution possible (a little verbose perhaps). the !language call for the word ass was excessive, could have been handled with a simple "Please keep the language clean" instead of a bot trigger. He didn't call anyone a bot.
 Itunes is evil lol  <--- I consider continuing on and on about this to be "disruptive" and has nothing to do with iTunes support
[19:40] <bazhang> which is where it was when we asked them to get back on topic
[19:40] <k1l> i think the itunes rants should be there in the channel.
[19:40] <IdleOne> it isn't enough to just read the words, we need to also read between the lines.
[19:40] <IdleOne> I think LjL and I are talking about wN and not xanux
[19:40] <bazhang> I presume you mean shouldn't
[19:41] <k1l> the main target was not to get itunes running, but to make sure to rant about it.
[19:41] <bazhang> he got the answer on how to use iTunes right away with a winehq db link, and multiple suggestions, then it was dragged on for quite a bit
[19:42] <k1l> and to make "^ wat" after beeing asked to stay ontopic and not use family unfriendly language is not the way i think a ubuntu/member/ should have handled the situation
[19:43] <IdleOne> what ubuntu member?
[19:43] <bazhang> yes exactly. and reisio, as always has to interject: telling us it's ot is more disruptive than letting us go on for several minutes about this itunes offtopic chat
[19:43] <k1l> IdleOne: wN got a redhat cloak
[19:44] <LjL> i think some of you guys really, really have lost track. also, i'm talking about wN, not xanux or reisio or anyone else
[19:44] <IdleOne> k1l: yes, what does that have to do with ubuntu/member?
[19:44] <bazhang> LjL, or you misread what we were talking about from the start
[19:45] <k1l> IdleOne: as a cloaked member (ubuntu or redhat) you represent the community. that is my point.
[19:45] <LjL> pray tell, how is saying "[21:20:18] <bazhang>  wN (~wN@redhat/jwaterwo) [21:20:47] <bazhang> a bit surprising someone considered "trusted" in that community would want to disrupt ours" not talking about wN? if you meant something else, than you did wN a disservice for randomly pasting his cloak like that.
[19:46] <bazhang> seriously?
[19:46] <LjL> yes, seriously.
[19:46] <LjL> do i look like i'm joking at the moment?
[19:46] <IdleOne> k1l: yes, wN has a redhat cloak and that means he represents that community. My argument is that wN did nothing wrong and he felt harassed by the bot because of the use of a very mild "bad" word.
[19:46] <k1l> IdleOne: so if i join #fedora, beeing offtopic, using non-familiar language (which both is against the channel guidelines) and then make comands when beeing asked to stick to the guidelines. what would that look like?
[19:46] <bazhang> no , I mean you really want to drag this out?
[19:48] <k1l> IdleOne: i am not happy how that situation turned out. but im not fine with blaming us for that alone
[19:48] <IdleOne> I think you both misread the entire situation with wN and ended up chasing him out of the channel.
[19:48] <k1l> IdleOne: i disagree
[19:48] <bazhang> haha
[19:49] <IdleOne> I also think it is time that we stop making comments about users in this channel about how they respond to questions or how they ask questions. It makes us look like we are poking fun at them.
[19:49] <bazhang> !disunity!
[19:54] <k1l> IdleOne: just to make it clear. i was not picky at wN because he got a redhat cloak. i just think i would not have liked an ubuntu/member/ to act like that in another support channel when looking back at that situation
[20:47] <k1l> hi paulgreen35
[20:48] <paulgreen35> Hi. I am trying to find someone who will give me a hand to access the Ubuntu Forums. Would you be able to help?
[20:49] <k1l> paulgreen35: actually this is the operator channel for the irc-channel. for questions regarding the forums please ask in #ubuntuforums
[20:49] <paulgreen35> Ok, thanks.
[21:18] <genii> I get a feeling the "!livestream" deal was a ploy to get people to watch the Syria fundraiser
[22:18] <bazhang> * LLKCKfan (LLKCKfan@67.213.25.150)
[22:18] <bazhang> heads up on this user
[22:19] <bazhang> nothing ever works, will repeat question forever