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| designbybeck | how do change the resize windows, to be like Ubuntu? aka Alt+MMB for resize not Alt+RMB | 02:51 |
| holstein | designbybeck: i would look in the xfce keyboard shortcuts.. or just use unity and whatever software you want from ubuntustudio | 02:56 |
| ubuntu-studio | jgjhg | 02:57 |
| ubuntu-studio | oyfoutfuf[f[9f[9gug' | 02:57 |
| designbybeck | hmmmm How well does that work holstein? To use Unity with UbuntuStudio? | 02:57 |
| holstein | designbybeck: pretty well, if you want unity | 02:57 |
| designbybeck | can I juse sudo apt-get that ? and it be like Unity? | 02:57 |
| designbybeck | I do like Unity | 02:57 |
| holstein | designbybeck: ubuntu-desktop | 02:58 |
| holstein | designbybeck: i dont use it, so i dont know, but it should work fine.. and it is reported to work fine | 02:58 |
| designbybeck | holstein: do you just use the XFCE? | 02:58 |
| designbybeck | it's not bad, and it is snappy | 02:58 |
| holstein | designbybeck: i use many things | 02:59 |
| designbybeck | ;) keep it adventurous! | 02:59 |
| designbybeck | wow! though that is 800mb+ | 03:00 |
| designbybeck | I'll remove all the scopes this time though! | 03:01 |
| keith_ | Need help figuring out why I lose screen background image and icon font settings between boots. Anyone with a suggestion as to where to start looking for problems? | 06:50 |
| dave_ | Does anyone know what I use to connect my epson artisan 725 printer to ubuntu? I used the printer software inside ubuntu 13.10 already it did not work. | 13:22 |
| dave_ | another quick question which program in Ubuntu Studio 13.10 is a sequencer program? | 13:32 |
| dpy | hi guys | 14:50 |
| dpy | is it also possible to use ubuntustudio as a ppa for regular ubuntu? | 14:50 |
| dpy | brb reboot | 14:50 |
| OvenWerks | dpy: If you are asking if you can use the ubuntustudio metas in another ubuntu the answer id yes | 15:13 |
| OvenWerks | I would first instal ubuntustudio-installer and use that to load the workslow you want | 15:13 |
| dpy | ehm | 15:16 |
| dpy | OvenWerks: what's the PPA uri to add? | 15:17 |
| OvenWerks | None needed | 15:17 |
| dpy | it's already part of ubuntu? | 15:17 |
| OvenWerks | All the ubuntustudio apps are in the ubuntu repos | 15:17 |
| dpy | apt-cache search ubuntustudio-installer | 15:18 |
| dpy | yields no results here | 15:18 |
| OvenWerks | You can add any app you like to any of the flavours | 15:18 |
| dpy | I'm on 12.04LTS btw | 15:18 |
| dpy | (it's also a work laptop, see) | 15:19 |
| OvenWerks | That would be why :) | 15:19 |
| dpy | I'd like to avoid having to dual boot this system | 15:19 |
| OvenWerks | The installer should work on 12.04 so you could download it and insrall manually. | 15:20 |
| OvenWerks | It may not be able to install the menu though | 15:20 |
| OvenWerks | The menu is later too. | 15:20 |
| dpy | ok | 15:20 |
| dpy | because I did see there was/is an ubuntustudio 12.04.3LTS also | 15:20 |
| OvenWerks | The five metas are ubuntustudio-audio *-video *-graphics *-photography and *-publishing | 15:22 |
| OvenWerks | 12.04.3 is 12.04 with all the updates. | 15:22 |
| OvenWerks | They are both LTS | 15:22 |
| OvenWerks | If it is a work computer you have to it pretty stock I would guess | 15:24 |
| dpy | no, it's not that strict | 15:24 |
| dpy | but I cannot, say, go go 13 or something | 15:24 |
| dpy | go go=go to | 15:24 |
| OvenWerks | The one other package you may need if you are doing audio is linux-lowlatency | 15:24 |
| dpy | just installed that one | 15:25 |
| dpy | -hence- the reboot | 15:25 |
| OvenWerks | Ok | 15:25 |
| dpy | I still cannot find those packages though | 15:25 |
| holstein | dpy: what package are you looking for? | 15:26 |
| holstein | dpy: i would open a GUI package manager such as synaptic and search "ubuntustudio" | 15:26 |
| dpy | ah wait | 15:26 |
| holstein | or, just install the individual applications you want | 15:26 |
| dpy | found it | 15:26 |
| holstein | !info ardour | 15:26 |
| ubottu | ardour (source: ardour): digital audio workstation (graphical gtk2 interface). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.8.14-2ubuntu4 (saucy), package size 4908 kB, installed size 14051 kB | 15:26 |
| holstein | !info gimp | 15:26 |
| ubottu | gimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.6-1ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 3209 kB, installed size 14972 kB | 15:26 |
| OvenWerks | holstein: Just don't use USC | 15:26 |
| dpy | had to add the -audio | 15:26 |
| holstein | ^^ like those | 15:26 |
| dpy | for apt-cache | 15:26 |
| holstein | OvenWerks: the software center doesnt show them, correct? | 15:27 |
| OvenWerks | It is wierd, unless the search is just right it doesn't | 15:27 |
| dpy | yes | 15:28 |
| dpy | <holstein> or, just install the individual applications you want <<-- I yeah I'm going for this route | 15:28 |
| dpy | I first thought I needed the -rt kernel from ubuntustudio | 15:29 |
| holstein | dpy: then you need not install any meta packages | 15:29 |
| dpy | but just read on the wiki that everybody switched to lowlatency | 15:29 |
| holstein | dpy: you dont "need" the rt kernel.. unless you do need it | 15:29 |
| dpy | because most rt patches have by now be merged in vanilla | 15:29 |
| holstein | dpy: no.. "everybody" doesnt switch.. only use it or add it if you need it.. as i suggest with any packages | 15:29 |
| OvenWerks | There is no RT for 12.04 I have found the lowlatency works for me if I am careful how I set things up | 15:30 |
| dpy | well I'm trying to run pianoteq in a bit | 15:30 |
| holstein | dpy: i would start with the generic kernel, and move up as needed | 15:30 |
| dpy | I'm-I'll be | 15:30 |
| holstein | dpy: when i use pianoteq, as an appliance, i dont use JACK.. | 15:30 |
| dpy | you don't? | 15:30 |
| dpy | because It just kinda told me I should | 15:30 |
| holstein | dpy: correct.. i dont need the overhead, so i dont use it | 15:30 |
| holstein | dpy: "should" is a matter of use case | 15:31 |
| dpy | ow.. k | 15:31 |
| holstein | dpy: if im running it all on the same machine, then i use JACK, and route pianoteq.. but, as an appliance, i dont need JACK, so i done run it | 15:31 |
| holstein | dont* | 15:31 |
| dpy | well if pianoteq works really nicely, I might even consider creating some dedicated box that only runs pianoteq | 15:31 |
| dpy | and just loads pianoteq from upstart | 15:32 |
| holstein | dpy: it works as advertised | 15:32 |
| * dpy was thinking of stuffing some old headless laptop inside a 19" 1U rack or something | 15:33 | |
| dpy | to turn pianoteq into a true appliance again | 15:33 |
| holstein | laptops come with screens attached | 15:34 |
| dpy | holstein: yes, and sometimes those screens break, and the leftover bit is something I'm considering to put into the 1U rack case | 15:34 |
| dpy | but it's an idea, not really working on it or something | 15:34 |
| holstein | should work fine | 15:35 |
| dpy | holstein: so you just use the ALSA device output? | 15:35 |
| holstein | dpy: in that scenario, i did.. since i didnt need pulse or jack to do what i was doing | 15:36 |
| dpy | what is a reasonable value for the buffer size? | 15:37 |
| dpy | It says 512 by default | 15:37 |
| dpy | that sounds large | 15:37 |
| holstein | dpy: i experimented with *many* settings to get the lowest acceptable latency for the hardware | 15:37 |
| holstein | dpy: that will depend on the hardware | 15:37 |
| dpy | I'm using a dell precision m4400 with stock audio hardware (intel) | 15:38 |
| holstein | doenst matter.. all things are a factor.. alsa driver support, system config.. kernel.. whatever | 15:38 |
| holstein | i can say i tried *many* settings til i found what was appropriate for my needs and the hardware specs | 15:39 |
| holstein | the latency was around 3 or 4 ms IIRC | 15:39 |
| holstein | this was an old netbook ...an EEEPC with a 900mhz celeron proc and a gig of ram | 15:40 |
| dpy | ehh | 15:40 |
| dpy | without crackling? | 15:40 |
| dpy | on 900mhz? | 15:40 |
| holstein | dpy: cracking is not acceptable | 15:41 |
| dpy | which polyphony? | 15:41 |
| holstein | crackling.. popping.. none of that | 15:41 |
| dpy | no it is not, but eeepc sounds awfully underpowered to run pianoteq | 15:41 |
| holstein | dpy: i dont remember the specifics.. but, it was acceptable | 15:41 |
| holstein | dpy: i configured the machine to do the job i wanted it to do | 15:41 |
| holstein | and it did it well | 15:41 |
| dpy | ok | 15:42 |
| holstein | polyphony was default IIRC | 15:42 |
| holstein | i didnt limit it that way | 15:42 |
| dpy | ok pianoteq seems to run | 15:42 |
| dpy | let's see if I can find my midi interface (M-audio) to work again | 15:42 |
| holstein | if i held the sustain pedal down, and laid into all the keys with my forearms repeatedly, i could get it to crackle | 15:43 |
| holstein | that was acceptable to me | 15:43 |
| dpy | oh, how nice wouldn't this have been for it to just "work" when I plugged it in | 15:49 |
| holstein | dpy: the midi usually does.. i would try and test things independently.. get a synth like yoshimi or something you are comfortable with making sound with JACK, for example, then route the midi to it to test the controller and interface | 15:51 |
| dpy | ah yess | 15:51 |
| dpy | apt-get install midisport-firmware | 15:51 |
| dpy | and it worked!!!!!!!!!!! | 15:51 |
| dpy | holstein: well... pianoteq without even a restart now lists my midisport | 15:52 |
| dpy | so far so good | 15:52 |
| dpy | ok, my RD 700 also still boots up (after 1+ year of inactivity) | 15:54 |
| holstein | not sure that i would bother routing that unit through anything | 15:56 |
| holstein | i would probably just use it as the sound module and route it back in through an audio device | 15:56 |
| holstein | i definitely wouldnt bother making a haul-around appliance for a sound from pianoteq if i had that unit | 15:57 |
| dpy | brilliant | 15:57 |
| dpy | it works | 15:57 |
| dpy | ok | 15:58 |
| dpy | I like the pianoteq's pianos | 15:58 |
| holstein | sure.. and thats fine, but for me, its not worth the hassle, since those roland ones are quite nice | 15:58 |
| holstein | im not as knocked out my pianoteq as other folks tend to be though | 15:59 |
| dpy | ok | 15:59 |
| holstein | i think *all* fake pianos are pretty much "meh" and a compromise, so i tend to factor in more things.. like simplicity | 16:00 |
| dpy | but this RD 700 is now 9 years old | 16:00 |
| holstein | sure.. but what has happened since then in the industry? | 16:00 |
| holstein | nothing to lug around a stand-alone appliance about, in my opinion | 16:00 |
| dpy | I agree | 16:01 |
| dpy | but I now am going to evaluate pianoteq | 16:01 |
| dpy | haven't bought anything yet | 16:01 |
| holstein | the roland V is nice, and i would probably have one in some situation.. if i were made of money, or whatever | 16:01 |
| holstein | and pianoteq *is* nice.. and they support linux officially | 16:01 |
| holstein | i bought it, and dont regret it at all.. all im saying is, if i had that unit, i would be searching for another piano sound.. | 16:01 |
| holstein | but, its nice to have a piano sound in the box too.. one that is very nice | 16:02 |
| dpy | great so I plug in my headphone, no audio! | 16:02 |
| holstein | i would test all of that independently.. | 16:03 |
| holstein | load up a known good audio file in a known good player like vlc and figure out what is up with the headphone port that way | 16:03 |
| dpy | fixed, headphone channel was muted | 16:04 |
| dpy | it works now | 16:04 |
| holstein | sure.. and for the record, thats not a "fix" ;) | 16:04 |
| dpy | :) | 16:04 |
| dpy | Okay, this doesn't sound too convincing yet, indeed | 16:07 |
| dpy | okay, one thing it definately does better than the RD 700 piano is sustain | 16:09 |
| dpy | this is a proper sustain | 16:09 |
| dpy | on my RD 700 I can just press sustain forever and it will just decay quickly anyhow | 16:10 |
| dpy | ah now I have presets that sound definately better than the RD 700 | 16:12 |
| holstein | cool | 16:13 |
| holstein | no doubt, pianoteq is a good value | 16:13 |
| dpy | what's the AB/BA thing? | 16:14 |
| holstein | AD/DA ? | 16:14 |
| dpy | no they are piano presets | 16:14 |
| dpy | Foo AB | 16:14 |
| dpy | and Foo BA | 16:14 |
| holstein | mic config.. | 16:14 |
| holstein | http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=2252 | 16:15 |
| holstein | fake mic placement tweaks | 16:15 |
| dpy | ah merci | 16:15 |
| djbatman | hello | 19:07 |
| djbatman | wow still installing ubuntu studio and this already works? :) | 19:07 |
| GridCube | djbatman, it should :) | 19:08 |
| djbatman | yes yes | 19:09 |
| djbatman | amazing | 19:09 |
| djbatman | :) | 19:17 |
| keith_ | hey folks. Got a problem with sound getting crackly when using alsa directly. Any idea why that would happen? | 21:59 |
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