[01:34] ubuntu-sutdio [02:51] how do change the resize windows, to be like Ubuntu? aka Alt+MMB for resize not Alt+RMB [02:56] designbybeck: i would look in the xfce keyboard shortcuts.. or just use unity and whatever software you want from ubuntustudio [02:57] jgjhg [02:57] oyfoutfuf[f[9f[9gug' [02:57] hmmmm How well does that work holstein? To use Unity with UbuntuStudio? [02:57] designbybeck: pretty well, if you want unity [02:57] can I juse sudo apt-get that ? and it be like Unity? [02:57] I do like Unity [02:58] designbybeck: ubuntu-desktop [02:58] designbybeck: i dont use it, so i dont know, but it should work fine.. and it is reported to work fine [02:58] holstein: do you just use the XFCE? [02:58] it's not bad, and it is snappy [02:59] designbybeck: i use many things [02:59] ;) keep it adventurous! [03:00] wow! though that is 800mb+ [03:01] I'll remove all the scopes this time though! [06:50] Need help figuring out why I lose screen background image and icon font settings between boots. Anyone with a suggestion as to where to start looking for problems? [13:22] Does anyone know what I use to connect my epson artisan 725 printer to ubuntu? I used the printer software inside ubuntu 13.10 already it did not work. [13:32] another quick question which program in Ubuntu Studio 13.10 is a sequencer program? [14:50] hi guys [14:50] is it also possible to use ubuntustudio as a ppa for regular ubuntu? [14:50] brb reboot [15:13] dpy: If you are asking if you can use the ubuntustudio metas in another ubuntu the answer id yes [15:13] I would first instal ubuntustudio-installer and use that to load the workslow you want [15:16] ehm [15:17] OvenWerks: what's the PPA uri to add? [15:17] None needed [15:17] it's already part of ubuntu? [15:17] All the ubuntustudio apps are in the ubuntu repos [15:18] apt-cache search ubuntustudio-installer [15:18] yields no results here [15:18] You can add any app you like to any of the flavours [15:18] I'm on 12.04LTS btw [15:19] (it's also a work laptop, see) [15:19] That would be why :) [15:19] I'd like to avoid having to dual boot this system [15:20] The installer should work on 12.04 so you could download it and insrall manually. [15:20] It may not be able to install the menu though [15:20] The menu is later too. [15:20] ok [15:20] because I did see there was/is an ubuntustudio 12.04.3LTS also [15:22] The five metas are ubuntustudio-audio *-video *-graphics *-photography and *-publishing [15:22] 12.04.3 is 12.04 with all the updates. [15:22] They are both LTS [15:24] If it is a work computer you have to it pretty stock I would guess [15:24] no, it's not that strict [15:24] but I cannot, say, go go 13 or something [15:24] go go=go to [15:24] The one other package you may need if you are doing audio is linux-lowlatency [15:25] just installed that one [15:25] -hence- the reboot [15:25] Ok [15:25] I still cannot find those packages though [15:26] dpy: what package are you looking for? [15:26] dpy: i would open a GUI package manager such as synaptic and search "ubuntustudio" [15:26] ah wait [15:26] or, just install the individual applications you want [15:26] found it [15:26] !info ardour [15:26] ardour (source: ardour): digital audio workstation (graphical gtk2 interface). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.8.14-2ubuntu4 (saucy), package size 4908 kB, installed size 14051 kB [15:26] !info gimp [15:26] gimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.6-1ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 3209 kB, installed size 14972 kB [15:26] holstein: Just don't use USC [15:26] had to add the -audio [15:26] ^^ like those [15:26] for apt-cache [15:27] OvenWerks: the software center doesnt show them, correct? [15:27] It is wierd, unless the search is just right it doesn't [15:28] yes [15:28] or, just install the individual applications you want <<-- I yeah I'm going for this route [15:29] I first thought I needed the -rt kernel from ubuntustudio [15:29] dpy: then you need not install any meta packages [15:29] but just read on the wiki that everybody switched to lowlatency [15:29] dpy: you dont "need" the rt kernel.. unless you do need it [15:29] because most rt patches have by now be merged in vanilla [15:29] dpy: no.. "everybody" doesnt switch.. only use it or add it if you need it.. as i suggest with any packages [15:30] There is no RT for 12.04 I have found the lowlatency works for me if I am careful how I set things up [15:30] well I'm trying to run pianoteq in a bit [15:30] dpy: i would start with the generic kernel, and move up as needed [15:30] I'm-I'll be [15:30] dpy: when i use pianoteq, as an appliance, i dont use JACK.. [15:30] you don't? [15:30] because It just kinda told me I should [15:30] dpy: correct.. i dont need the overhead, so i dont use it [15:31] dpy: "should" is a matter of use case [15:31] ow.. k [15:31] dpy: if im running it all on the same machine, then i use JACK, and route pianoteq.. but, as an appliance, i dont need JACK, so i done run it [15:31] dont* [15:31] well if pianoteq works really nicely, I might even consider creating some dedicated box that only runs pianoteq [15:32] and just loads pianoteq from upstart [15:32] dpy: it works as advertised [15:33] * dpy was thinking of stuffing some old headless laptop inside a 19" 1U rack or something [15:33] to turn pianoteq into a true appliance again [15:34] laptops come with screens attached [15:34] holstein: yes, and sometimes those screens break, and the leftover bit is something I'm considering to put into the 1U rack case [15:34] but it's an idea, not really working on it or something [15:35] should work fine [15:35] holstein: so you just use the ALSA device output? [15:36] dpy: in that scenario, i did.. since i didnt need pulse or jack to do what i was doing [15:37] what is a reasonable value for the buffer size? [15:37] It says 512 by default [15:37] that sounds large [15:37] dpy: i experimented with *many* settings to get the lowest acceptable latency for the hardware [15:37] dpy: that will depend on the hardware [15:38] I'm using a dell precision m4400 with stock audio hardware (intel) [15:38] doenst matter.. all things are a factor.. alsa driver support, system config.. kernel.. whatever [15:39] i can say i tried *many* settings til i found what was appropriate for my needs and the hardware specs [15:39] the latency was around 3 or 4 ms IIRC [15:40] this was an old netbook ...an EEEPC with a 900mhz celeron proc and a gig of ram [15:40] ehh [15:40] without crackling? [15:40] on 900mhz? [15:41] dpy: cracking is not acceptable [15:41] which polyphony? [15:41] crackling.. popping.. none of that [15:41] no it is not, but eeepc sounds awfully underpowered to run pianoteq [15:41] dpy: i dont remember the specifics.. but, it was acceptable [15:41] dpy: i configured the machine to do the job i wanted it to do [15:41] and it did it well [15:42] ok [15:42] polyphony was default IIRC [15:42] i didnt limit it that way [15:42] ok pianoteq seems to run [15:42] let's see if I can find my midi interface (M-audio) to work again [15:43] if i held the sustain pedal down, and laid into all the keys with my forearms repeatedly, i could get it to crackle [15:43] that was acceptable to me [15:49] oh, how nice wouldn't this have been for it to just "work" when I plugged it in [15:51] dpy: the midi usually does.. i would try and test things independently.. get a synth like yoshimi or something you are comfortable with making sound with JACK, for example, then route the midi to it to test the controller and interface [15:51] ah yess [15:51] apt-get install midisport-firmware [15:51] and it worked!!!!!!!!!!! [15:52] holstein: well... pianoteq without even a restart now lists my midisport [15:52] so far so good [15:54] ok, my RD 700 also still boots up (after 1+ year of inactivity) [15:56] not sure that i would bother routing that unit through anything [15:56] i would probably just use it as the sound module and route it back in through an audio device [15:57] i definitely wouldnt bother making a haul-around appliance for a sound from pianoteq if i had that unit [15:57] brilliant [15:57] it works [15:58] ok [15:58] I like the pianoteq's pianos [15:58] sure.. and thats fine, but for me, its not worth the hassle, since those roland ones are quite nice [15:59] im not as knocked out my pianoteq as other folks tend to be though [15:59] ok [16:00] i think *all* fake pianos are pretty much "meh" and a compromise, so i tend to factor in more things.. like simplicity [16:00] but this RD 700 is now 9 years old [16:00] sure.. but what has happened since then in the industry? [16:00] nothing to lug around a stand-alone appliance about, in my opinion [16:01] I agree [16:01] but I now am going to evaluate pianoteq [16:01] haven't bought anything yet [16:01] the roland V is nice, and i would probably have one in some situation.. if i were made of money, or whatever [16:01] and pianoteq *is* nice.. and they support linux officially [16:01] i bought it, and dont regret it at all.. all im saying is, if i had that unit, i would be searching for another piano sound.. [16:02] but, its nice to have a piano sound in the box too.. one that is very nice [16:02] great so I plug in my headphone, no audio! [16:03] i would test all of that independently.. [16:03] load up a known good audio file in a known good player like vlc and figure out what is up with the headphone port that way [16:04] fixed, headphone channel was muted [16:04] it works now [16:04] sure.. and for the record, thats not a "fix" ;) [16:04] :) [16:07] Okay, this doesn't sound too convincing yet, indeed [16:09] okay, one thing it definately does better than the RD 700 piano is sustain [16:09] this is a proper sustain [16:10] on my RD 700 I can just press sustain forever and it will just decay quickly anyhow [16:12] ah now I have presets that sound definately better than the RD 700 [16:13] cool [16:13] no doubt, pianoteq is a good value [16:14] what's the AB/BA thing? [16:14] AD/DA ? [16:14] no they are piano presets [16:14] Foo AB [16:14] and Foo BA [16:14] mic config.. [16:15] http://www.forum-pianoteq.com/viewtopic.php?id=2252 [16:15] fake mic placement tweaks [16:15] ah merci [19:07] hello [19:07] wow still installing ubuntu studio and this already works? :) [19:08] djbatman, it should :) [19:09] yes yes [19:09] amazing [19:17] :) [21:59] hey folks. Got a problem with sound getting crackly when using alsa directly. Any idea why that would happen?