[00:02] <bjrohan> valorie: SHeesh, I still got nothing, I can't get it to go back to my laptop screen :-(
[00:11] <bjrohan> Does anyone else have suggestions for my multiple display issue?
[00:55] <Bigpat> Hello everyone
[00:55] <itaylor57> hi Bigpat
[00:56] <Bigpat> I have an issues with Muon Discover
[00:56] <Bigpat> I did the most stupidest thing by hiding the menus and I have been trying to re enable it for the last 4 days
[00:57] <Bigpat> I can't even find any info on the web and the short cut keys are not even working
[00:58] <Bigpat> the question is in the Muon Discover software center how do i default everything
[00:59] <Bigpat> using 13.10
[01:08] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[01:38] <bjrohan> Hey there. I have asked this before, and been searching for a solution,but haven't found one yet. In 13.04 my display worked fine. Since upgrading things worked fine, I then plugged in my TV via HDMI (had done this in 13.04). When I unplug the HDMI, my leptop screen goes blank. i can only get to see my laptop screen whne plugged into the TV. I have tried various setings in System Setting , Displys
[01:39] <Bigpat> check your vidoe cards setting
[01:40] <Bigpat> does it suppor dual monitor
[01:41] <Bigpat> trying to find out which one is supposed to be your primary monitor and select it. It may help
[01:41] <bjrohan> Bigpat: It is a built-in Intel card on a 6 mos old laptop. It had worked fine in 13.04, I had plugged it in and out of the same TV just fine
[01:42] <skreech_> Does anyone know of any software that I can use to manage a lending scheme?
[01:43] <skreech_>  Sort of like a library but not tied to Books
[01:44] <Bigpat> does your laptop support back light
[01:45] <bjrohan> Bigpat: what do you mean?
[01:45] <bjrohan> It is an HP Envy with Intel video card and processor if that helps
[01:45] <Bigpat> 1 min
[01:46] <bjrohan> ok
[01:46] <Bigpat> what is the name of your video card
[01:47] <bjrohan> How would I find out? The screen on the laptop works. It just doesn't work when the HDMI cord is unplugeed from it now
[01:47] <bjrohan> It is lit up, just blank
[01:48] <bjrohan> Right now it is plugged into TV, I have the TV monitor in the screen setting unchecked, so nothing on the TV screen
[02:27] <bjrohan> valorie: This worked for me: DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output LVDS1 --auto
[02:45] <Bigpat> how to re enable the search menu in Muon discover in 13.10. I select to hide the menu but I'm unable to get it back
[03:54] <valorie> darn, bigpat left
[03:54] <valorie> so easy: control M
[03:54] <goodtime> hi
[04:01] <skreech_> valorie: hi!!
[04:02] <valorie> hi skreech_
[04:02] <valorie> how are ya?
[04:02] <skreech_> Good :)
[04:02] <valorie> bjrohan: I saw you found success
[04:03] <valorie> but how on earth did you find that?
[04:03] <genii> valorie: That doesn't work here. I had to actually change "MenuBar=Disabled" to "MenuBar=Enabled" in .kde/share/config/muon-discoverrc
[04:03] <valorie> and where did you put it?
[04:03] <skreech_> valorie: Wouldn't happen to know if there is anything like a Community asset tracking software?
[04:03] <bjrohan> Video seems to be corrected. Now I can not get any audio from any of my speakers, however in the Pulse Audio control, I the meters are moving. Alsa Mixer volume is all the way up, and not muted, any sugestions?
[04:03] <valorie> genii: not cool that muon doesn't follow KDE standards
[04:03] <valorie> personally, I would file a bug about that
[04:04] <valorie> bjrohan: does it make any difference what backend you use for phonon?
[04:04] <valorie> I would play with all the multimedia settings in systemsettings
[04:05] <bjrohan_> valorie: I used DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output LVDS1 --auto  to reset my display :-). What is phonon?
[04:05] <valorie> notice that there is more than one tab
[04:05] <valorie> phonon is the abstraction layer between the other MM stuff and your equipment
[04:05] <bjrohan_> Where would I find the phonon settings
[04:07] <valorie> systemsettings > multimedia
[04:08] <valorie> sound in linux, gah
[04:08] <bjrohan_> I am there, should phonon be one of the items on the left?
[04:08] <valorie> so many layers
[04:08] <valorie> let's see what it says now
[04:08] <bjrohan_> I, I see it, I had it open as Pulse Audio Control
[04:08] <bjrohan_> I closed that, and then a secion opened in system settings multimedia
[04:09] <valorie> audio and video settings
[04:09] <valorie> much better
[04:09] <bjrohan_> Yep,
[04:09] <valorie> why should anyone but the devels know the word 'phonon'?
[04:11] <bjrohan_> I have that, I have tried the available options there, only 2 are  options Builtin Audio Analog Stereo and Simultaneous output to Built inAnalof stereo
[04:11] <valorie> hmmmm
[04:11] <valorie> and does changing the order of those help?
[04:12] <bjrohan_> builtin digital surround is grayed out as is Built in Audio Digital surround,  and Built-in 4.0  analog surround
[04:12] <valorie> woah
[04:12] <bjrohan_> changing the order doesn't help
[04:12] <valorie> so go to the next tab, and select something
[04:12] <bjrohan_> I have a system with beats audio
[04:12] <bjrohan_> It was working in 13.04 as well
[04:12] <valorie> it sounds like everything is deselected for some reason
[04:13] <bjrohan_> the 4 speakers and base.
[04:13] <bjrohan_> valorie: If I go to the next tab, and under the sound card, with built in audio profile has many options and selecting one of those highlights various ones on the first tab.
[04:14] <bjrohan_> analog stereo duplex was working before
[04:14] <valorie> and it will again
[04:14] <valorie> esp. if alsamixer detected everything
[04:15] <valorie> sounds like some selection somewhere got hosed, though
[04:17] <bjrohan_> This ALWAYS happens to me on upgrades, something fails and I go through this trying to fix it. Is this normal?
[04:18] <valorie> I can't say it's never happened to me, but it's been at least a year or two
[04:18] <valorie> and sometimes I do the beta
[04:18] <valorie> once even the alpha
[04:19] <valorie> IMO if you have the time, sign up to do testing
[04:19] <bjrohan_> I did the Beta once, then I figured I didn't want to go through it, I have aited for full releases, but I still get bugs
[04:19] <valorie> that way your equipment will always be considered
[04:19] <bjrohan_> Ah
[04:19] <valorie> well, bugs are a part of life with computers
[04:19] <Addle> bjrohan_: Well, I have to say that upgrades can be problematic. There's a reason Mint decided it was less trouble to just not allow upgrades.
[04:20] <valorie> in linux, though, you can assist the devels in fixing them, by giving them good information
[04:20] <skreech_> valorie: Also tending gardens
[04:20] <valorie> skreech_: what?
[04:20] <Addle> bjrohan_: Really, it's hard to cope with everything a user could have done to their systems between updates.
[04:20] <skreech_> Bugs are a part of ... :)
[04:21] <Addle> Yep, on the good side, it keeps getting better and better, thanks to everyone, including those who take the time to log bug reports. :)
[04:21] <bjrohan_> Well yes, and I do enjoy Linux for the "nerdiness" of it
[04:22] <Addle> Sometimes, I'm almost sad when everything is perfect. Then, I have to come up with an excuse to play with my installations. hehe
[04:24] <valorie> Addle: lol
[04:24] <bjrohan_> :-)
[04:25] <bjrohan_> I found jack retasking, I get audio, but I can't increase or decrease volume :-(
[04:25] <skreech_> Addle: upgrade to the dev beta :)
[04:25] <valorie> yikes
[04:26] <valorie> bjrohan_: the final thing to check is that third tab, which is the backend
[04:26] <valorie> you can use either gstreamer or vlc as a phonon-backend
[04:26] <valorie> both have their strengths and weaknesses
[04:27] <Addle> skreech_: haha Yeah, I guess that'll do it.
[04:28] <bjrohan_> valorie: the only one I show is g-streamer. I have VLC player installed does that help?
[04:30] <skreech_> !info libvlc5
[04:31] <valorie> it isn't a lib, but phonon-backend-vlc
[04:32] <valorie> !info phonon-backend-vlc
[04:34] <bjrohan_> installing now to see what happens
[04:36] <skreech_> valorie: Ever heard of an Asset management software? That tracks physical stuph ?
[04:37] <valorie> I think most people just use a database for that
[04:37] <bjrohan> valorie: VLC worked, The audio works, volume controls work, now just the mute key button light stays on
[04:37] <valorie> \0/
[04:38]  * valorie thinks that a spot of electrical tape might help on that mute button
[04:38] <valorie> lol
[04:38] <skreech_> valorie: Yeah :) I just was hoping not to recreate one
[04:39] <valorie> well, I haven't looked
[04:39] <bjrohan> :-)
[04:40] <valorie> surely there is library or warehouse stuff that could be re-purposed
[04:40] <valorie> skreech_: ask around at hackerspace/makerspace type places
[04:40] <valorie> they have to be using something to keep track of stuff
[04:41] <skreech_> valorie: Yeah I was thinking they probably have stuff to track community tool pools
[04:41] <skreech_> I was looking at Library stuff as well but they are really ISBN based
[04:41] <skreech_> Stupid organized book readers..... -__-
[04:42] <valorie> freegeek may even have a chan here
[04:42] <skreech_> Curse you and your years of experience!!
[04:42] <valorie> sure, but the backend can probably be changed from ISBN to some other number
[04:42] <skreech_> Not familiar with freekgeek
[04:43] <valorie> FREEgeek
[04:43] <valorie> not freeks
[04:43] <skreech_> Ahhhh :)
[04:43] <valorie> lol
[04:43] <skreech_> Right
[04:43] <skreech_> That would have been an embarrassing meeting to turn up to
[04:44] <valorie> skreech_: do you know about alis?
[04:44] <genii> valorie: Are you in Toronto?
[04:45] <valorie> it does searching of freenode
[04:45] <skreech_> yes
[04:45] <valorie> for instance, do a /msg alis list *freegeek*
[04:45] <valorie> and see what you get
[04:45] <genii> ( we have a FreeGeek here in Toronto, on Vine Street )
[04:45] <valorie> genii: an hour out of Seattle
[04:45] <valorie> cool
[04:45] <valorie> we have one in Seattle, too
[04:45] <valorie> there are more of that kind of thing all the time
[04:46] <valorie> hackerspaces and makerspaces as well
[04:46] <valorie> I love it
[04:46] <valorie> free culture!
[04:46] <skreech_> :-D
[04:46] <genii> Yes, it's good stuff.
[04:47] <Eav> hi guys
[04:47] <Eav> i got a question, maybe you can help me
[04:47] <bjrohan> I am in Vancouver WA, there is one in Portland, been there for Portland Linux Group after hours. I have a computer to take in to donate
[04:48] <valorie> bjrohan: awesome
[04:48] <Eav> i got the plasma desktop or whatever its named and if i minimize windows they get like greyed out in the taskbar
[04:48] <Eav> which i would like to turn off
[04:48] <Eav> is this possible?
[04:50] <valorie> Eav: when you right-click in an empty space in the panel, you can go to panel options > panel settings
[04:50] <valorie> maybe there?
[04:52] <Eav> nope sadly not
[04:52] <Eav> i've looked there already
[04:52] <Eav> maybe i should try a skin?
[04:53] <Addle> Eav: I fail to see why you'd ever want to do that, but perhaps in the color settings.
[04:54] <Eav> ok i think i'll stick with the dark theme, i can live with that
[04:56] <Eav> i couldnt read the greyed out windows
[04:56] <Eav> but with the dark theme its fine
[04:57] <Addle> Eav: Oh, I see. Yeah, I'd call that an issue with the specific theme. That's always annoying. When I try dark themes, a lot of the time, I end up with unreadable text *somewhere*.
[04:57] <Addle> Eav: Glad you sorted it out to your satisfaction. :)
[04:57] <skreech_> Ah ok Eav got it sorted
[04:58] <Eav> 1 more thing
[04:59] <Eav> if i start dolphin on my 2nd monitor it seems to start with the resolution of my 1st monitor
[04:59] <Eav> any way to fix this?
[05:01]  * skreech_ wishes I knew more about Dual monitors.
[05:13] <arquebus> I just installed kubuntu and I cant get my wireless to stay connected, anyone know how I can fix this?
[05:14] <Addle> Eav: It will restore the application to whatever geometry (in pixels) it remembers from the last use. So if I get what you mean, no, there's probably no way to affect that. Maybe Weston will make better use of DPI. One can hope. :)
[05:14] <Addle> Eav: I could be wrong, of course. That's always a possibility.
[05:27] <skreech_> arquebus: It connects? for how long?
[05:28] <arquebus> it connected just for a moment when I first booted, then I lost connection and I cant find any way to reconnect
[05:31] <arquebus> skreech_: what do you think? I dont even see a 'reconnect' button
[05:31] <Addle> arquebus: First thing I'd do is look at the logs to see if there's any error messages. Try dmesg | less and look near the end for anything incriminating.
[05:32] <Addle> (q will exit the 'less' pager, in case you're new to it)
[05:33] <Addle> (and 0G will go to the end)
[05:34] <arquebus> Addle: I dont see any errors having to do with wireless or networks, like I say, it connected momentarily when I first booted, and now I have no idea how to reconnect
[05:37] <Addle> arquebus: That's odd. Normally, there should be an icon in your system tray that allows you to connect and so on. Why it should disconnect you and not leave any messages in dmesg is a mystery.
[05:37] <Addle> arquebus: I should add a disclaimer: I've had a bottle of wine, and I don't drink often, so perhaps my debugging skills are dulled. ;)
[05:38] <arquebus> Addle: whats strange is that the full list of wireless networks shows up when I click the wireless icon in the tray, I get a message that it cant connect to network I have selected
[05:39] <Addle> arquebus: Hm, one would have liked a more detailed error message. lol
[05:40] <Addle> arquebus: Network Manager should log stuff to daemon.log, iirc. Worth looking at.
[05:40] <Addle> arquebus: Ugh, no more daemon.log. nvm.
[05:41] <arquebus> wait, I ran that command again and I got a bunch of messages that say "Queue 0 failed to flush"
[05:41] <arquebus> as well as "Queue 2 failed to flush"
[05:43] <Addle> arquebus: I think NetworkManager logs to /var/log/syslog now.
[05:43] <Addle> arquebus: I think you hit a kernel bug. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=169956
[05:45] <arquebus> Addle: great job!! thats the exact wireless hardware I have on my laptop
[05:45] <Addle> arquebus: Ahah! hehe
[05:46] <valorie> the #ubuntu-kernel folks are very helpful
[05:46] <Addle> arquebus: Well, at least it's fixed in the latest kernel releases. Beyond that, you'd probably have to patch your kernel to get it to work. Anyways, mystery solved, at least. :)
[05:46] <valorie> and might have a patch for you to test
[05:47] <arquebus> Addle: maybe an update firmware would work
[05:50] <Addle> arquebus: Well, it seldom hurts, but if the kernel module has a bug, that's probably where the real solution lies.
[05:50] <arquebus> Addle: ok
[05:51] <Addle> arquebus: Someone reports having installed a package on Ubuntu 13.10 and getting it to work in this: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61621
[05:51] <Addle> arquebus: See the comment by Rok.
[05:53] <Addle> arquebus: Obviously, you take your chances installing something from rghost.net. I know nothing about that service or Rok.
[05:54] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/~barracuda72/+archive/ralink/ is where it came from.
[05:54] <arquebus> Addle: thanks big time, I'll look through this, I have a feeling though my best bet is to wait till the next version of Ubuntu comes out
[05:54] <Addle> arquebus: Glad to be of service. Good luck! :)
[05:55]  * genii makes more coffee
[06:01] <Roey> hi
[06:01] <Roey> why did my spdif sound suddenly stop?  I can hear stuff on my headphones, but the spdif connection to the receiver just cut suddenly.  I checked with alsamixer and I do not see SPDIF muted at all.
[06:08] <valorie> bleah, why did arquebus leave, rather than checking with #ubuntu-kernel?
[06:08] <valorie> pfff
[06:08] <valorie> how about in pulseaudio, Roey?
[06:09] <valorie> so many freaking layers in linux sound
[06:10] <Roey> Sound comes from Youtube in Firefox and also from Amarok, but only in headphones
[06:11] <valorie> did you check what systemsettings says?
[06:11] <Roey> one sec
[06:11] <Roey> but why would it do that all of a sudden?
[06:11] <valorie> that's an excellent question
[06:11] <Roey> that's the second time this happened.
[06:11] <Addle> Obvious answer: There's a bug. :)
[06:12] <valorie> it fits also into the random nature of reality
[06:12] <Addle> I love Linux. It's awesome and one of my favorite things in the world. But sometimes, the sound subsystems... *sigh*
[06:12] <valorie> Addle: indeed
[06:16] <Roey> Addle:  oh goodie :)
[07:11] <home> blablabla]
[07:17] <home> hello
[07:17] <valorie> home: have you a question?
[07:17] <home> my new person learn ubuntu sistem
[07:17] <home> plz help 1 ask for my
[07:17] <home> soryy me poor linguage englesh
[07:18] <home> my interesting instal world of warcraf , posibil or no posibil
[07:18] <valorie> what is your preferred language?
[07:18] <valorie> yes, you can run WoW under wine
[07:18] <valorie> !info wine
[07:18] <home> ya wow
[07:19] <home> plz link for download  wine
[07:19] <home> i am vceryy veryy noob
[07:19] <valorie> look for it in your package manager called Muon
[07:19] <valorie> Muon will download and install for you
[07:20] <home> ty mate
[07:20] <valorie> have fun!
[07:21] <home> este cineva care intelege ce am scris aici
[07:32] <eagles0513875> hey everyone for some reason my track pad is not working at all it seems like lsusb picks it up any ideas would be greatly appreciated
[07:38] <eagles0513875> Addle: the funny thing actually my track pad appears in the syslog
[07:39] <j4gu4r> alguien que me pueda dar un tutorial de como configurar kubuntu 13.10
[07:40] <eagles0513875> !es | j4gu4r
[07:45] <Eav> i got a question - i installed chromium via the terminal, but now i cant start it via the kde menu just via terminal. how can i change this?
[07:53] <valorie> how exactly did you install it, Eav?
[07:54] <valorie> if you did it with apt-get, it will make no difference
[07:54] <valorie> if you downloaded it from elsewhere, dunno
[07:59] <Addle> Eav: It should normally show up. Try searching for it in the KDE menu search. Otherwise, logging out and back in should work, though it shouldn't be necessary.
[07:59] <jack> best dvd-playback app for kde?
[07:59] <jack> kaffeine?
[07:59] <Addle> jack: I like VLC. Kaffeine is pretty good too.
[07:59] <jack> yeah, vlc rules
[07:59] <jack> merci bien
[08:00] <jack> are there others?
[08:00] <Addle> On that we agree. Bienvenue :)
[08:01] <Addle> That's all I ever bother to use.
[08:01] <jack> mmh
[08:01] <Addle> There's probably a bunch more that work, though. Like mplayer, etc.
[08:01] <jack> mplayer, right
[08:02] <Addle> If it's not playing DVDs, maybe you just need the videolan.org repos for dvdcss added.
[08:02] <jack> need to apt-get that
[08:02] <eagles0513875> jack: vlc is the best in the sense that it will play all formats
[08:02] <eagles0513875> jack: ya apt-get ftw
[08:03] <jack> standard  dvd=one format
[08:03] <jack> mpeg2 afaik
[08:03] <Addle> The old medibuntu repos are gone, so dvdcss needs to come from videolan.org, now.
[08:03] <jack> ok
[08:03] <eagles0513875> Addle: isnt ath stuff normally packaged with vlc
[08:04] <Addle> eagles0513875: Could be. VLC does tend to "just work". But it can't hurt to have dvdcss installed.
[08:04] <eagles0513875> possibly
[08:04] <eagles0513875> wish i could get my apache issue sorted on this lapotp
[08:04] <eagles0513875> plus the track pad
[08:05] <eagles0513875> really need to get it up and running as I need to get a wordpress theme started asap
[08:05] <Addle> Wish I could figure out why my friend's built-in webcam isn't even showing up on lspci or lsusb. Now there's a perplexing problem.
[08:05] <jack> just compile httpd yourself
[08:06] <jack> it's small enough
[08:06] <eagles0513875> jack: i just need something to run test and dev sites on my local hosts
[08:06] <eagles0513875> jack: thing is 13.10 has the latest version of apache 2.4 13.04 previous have 2.2 which im used to working with
[08:07] <jack> get lighhtpd :P
[08:07] <jack> erm, lighttpd
[08:07] <Addle> I suppose compiling 2.2 would work. As you were saying, though, good to future-proof it by porting the config files to 2.4.
[08:12] <eagles0513875> Addle: i will be eventually my production servers
[08:13] <goodtime> Addle?
[08:13] <Addle> eagles0513875: What I'd do is start from the default config files and add my stuff to it piece by piece until it breaks. Then I'd know where the problem was right away.
[08:13] <goodtime> an os?
[08:14] <goodtime> ahh lol
[08:14] <eagles0513875> Addle: im doing that on this laptop :( and i cant seem to find jack and squat
[08:14] <jack> stop highlighting me without a good reason
[08:15] <Addle> Never heard of squat, but jackd is in /usr/bin. XD
[08:15] <jack> thx
[08:15] <Addle> lol
[08:15] <eagles0513875> haha jack sorry i wasnt even referring to you
[08:15] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:16] <eagles0513875> argh Forbidden  You don't have permission to access /php5-fcgi/index.php on this server.
[08:16] <eagles0513875> error im getting trying to access a site on this laptop :(
[08:17] <eagles0513875> hey jalcine
[08:17] <Addle> Hopefully that's not on the main PHP site, which recently got compromised. PHP compromised. Go figure, what a shocker!
[08:17] <eagles0513875> Addle: no im running an event driven setup using php fpm and fastcgi
[08:17] <jack> eagles0513875, i figured
[08:17] <jalcine> eagles0513875: how do you know I connected back to my ZNC? lol
[08:18] <eagles0513875> [09:16:58] jalcine_ [~jacky@unaffiliated/webjadmin] is now known as jalcine that is how jack
[08:18] <eagles0513875> whoops
[08:18] <jalcine> AH
[08:18] <eagles0513875> tab failure on my part meatn jalcine
[08:18] <jalcine> lmfao
[08:19] <Addle> You just know I'll be slipping the word "jack" oh so casually into things for the next day or so, right? lol
[08:19] <jack> :P
[08:19] <jalcine> hahah
[08:20] <jalcine> ugh, I hate this time of day
[08:20] <jalcine> when nepomuk via virtouso kicks mysqld into full overtime
[08:20] <jalcine> :(
[08:20] <jalcine> I don't even use MySQL for webdev anymore
[08:21] <Addle> I switched to sqlite on this laptop. I have 1GB of RAM, I can't afford the 75MB for mysqld. hehe
[08:22] <eagles0513875> i have 16g of ram lol
[08:22] <eagles0513875> and a monster i7
[08:23] <goodtime> nice ;)
[08:23] <Addle> My desktop has a nice 16GB of RAM, at least. Laptop is old and sucks badly. But hey, it works.
[08:23] <Addle> The laptop is pretty much my dedicated IRC system. :)
[08:25] <jalcine> lmfao
[08:25] <eagles0513875> i can compile libreoffice from master in about 2 hrs
[08:26] <eagles0513875> ttyl guys off to spend the day on the boat probably for the last time this year
[08:27] <Addle> Later, eagles0513875. Have fun!
[08:27] <eagles0513875> thanks Addle will do :)
[08:30] <jack> boat? where are you located?
[08:30] <jack> .nl or some us coast?
[08:31] <eagles0513875> im located in europe on the island of malta jack we are 60 miles south of scicily
[08:32] <Addle> jack: I'm in Ontario, and my Dad has a sailboat. Don't need the sea for a boat.
[08:32] <eagles0513875> you probably heard us when the libyan conflict started with those two military planes flying here
[08:32] <Addle> eagles0513875: Oh, that must be a nice looking area.
[08:32] <jack> eagles0513875, cool
[08:33] <jack> nice big lake, that "ocean"
[08:34] <Addle> The mediterranean. That's got to be nice.
[08:34] <jack> it is
[08:34] <Addle> I really need to get to Europe at some point before I die. :)
[08:34] <jack> terribly warm there though
[08:35] <Addle> Great Lakes and the Thousand Islands are nice, but they're no mediterranean.
[08:35] <Addle> jack: I can take it. I'm not even complaining in the early 30C's. On the other hand, winter *sucks*.
[08:36] <Addle> I was built for tropical climes, I think.
[08:36] <jack> heh
[08:36] <jack> are you black?
[08:36] <Addle> Anyone needs an experienced software developer somewhere warm, PM me. XD
[08:36] <Addle> Nope, about as white as possible. lol
[08:36] <home> hello i am return plz help 1 ask
[08:37] <jack> see...
[08:37] <Addle> On the pantone color chart, I'm "fishbelly white". lol
[08:37] <home> i am download wine
[08:37] <jack> :P
[08:37] <home> plz help how instal
[08:37] <Addle> home: sudo apt-get install wine
[08:37] <Addle> home: Or search for it in the package manager of your choice.
[08:37] <home> yes plz ???instal wine
[08:39] <home> just no undestaing
[08:39] <Addle> Ah, language barriers. Let's see...
[08:39] <home> ya
[08:39] <Addle> home: Type: sudo apt-get install wine
[08:39] <jack> apt-get install babelfish :P
[08:40] <Addle> hehe
[08:40] <home> lol ok
[08:42] <jack> easily belongs into the "nicest visions of the 20th century"category
[08:42] <jack> <3 douglas adams
[08:42] <Addle> Agreed!
[08:42] <jack> :)
[08:42] <Addle> Man was a genius.
[08:42] <jack> indeed
[08:43] <Addle> You've read Terry Pratchett, right?
[08:43] <jack> i love his thhgttg
[08:43] <jack> nope
[08:43] <home> X client - xwininfo
[08:43] <home> xwininfo is a small tool that was part of xbase-clients.
[08:43] <home> More information about X.Org can be found at:
[08:43] <home> This module can be found as the module 'app/xwininfo' at :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/xorg
[08:43] <FloodBotK1> home: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:43] <jack> discworld my ass
[08:44] <Addle> That's between you and your ass. Myself, I love Discworld. :)
[08:44] <jack> you'd say it's up to comparison with thhgttg?
[08:45] <home> ok ty
[08:45] <Addle> I would. Both are probably my favorite authors of all time, comedy wise.
[08:45] <jack> all right, i might read it
[08:46] <Addle> Douglas Adams is awesome, though, no question about it. I miss him. :(
[08:47] <jack> if he has only 10% of douglas adams' humour
[08:48] <Addle> hehe True.
[08:48] <jack> it's cool already
[08:48] <Addle> "Mort" is probably one of my favorites.
[08:49] <jack> mort? makes me think of harry potter
[08:49] <jack> lord voldemort or so
[08:49] <Addle> Mort is the aptly named Death's apprentice.
[08:49] <Addle> Mort being "Death" in French, of course.
[08:49] <jack> haha ok
[08:49] <Addle> <---- Speaks French
[08:50] <jack> i know
[08:50] <jack> <--- was born in paris
[08:50] <Addle> jack: Bien, alors! :)
[08:50] <jack> ;)
[08:51] <jack> warning: my french sucks anyway
[08:51] <Addle> My written French is, frankly, poor, but I lived in Quebec for the first part of my life.
[08:51] <Addle> So same warning. lol
[08:51] <jack> i can order un grand creme
[08:51] <Addle> Even in school in French, I used to scrape by with 63's and so on.
[08:51] <Addle> 60's were a pass.
[08:52] <jack> but that's about it....
[08:53] <jack> if pratchett's mort is like goethe's mephisto, cool
[08:53] <jack> i love such characters
[08:54] <Addle> Well, if you like that, perhaps "Eric" is to your liking. Based of Faust.
[08:54] <jack> eric??
[08:54] <Addle> Also one of my favorites.
[08:54] <jack> pratchett too?
[08:55] <Addle> Yeah. lol The cover has Faust struck out and replaced by "Eric". And yes, Pratchett.
[08:55] <jack> alright :)
[08:59] <jack> Addle, does eric have a good mephisto replacement?
[08:59] <Addle> As I recall, yes.
[08:59] <jack> cool, ok
[09:09] <jack> question: is there an ubuntu dvd that can install kde+others? like lxde...
[09:10] <jack> or gnome
[09:11] <Addle> jack: Gnome3 might be an issue. I think it might clash with Unity on stock ubuntu. But otherwise, they should be installable.
[09:12] <Addle> jack: Should be able to install them fine on Kubuntu.
[09:12] <jack> kubuntu dvd-image?
[09:12] <jack> ok, great
[09:12] <Addle> jack: Sure
[10:37] <Guest40673> Is the edubuntu-desktop-kde package available for Kubuntu 13.10?
[10:51] <Guest40673> nevermind, I'ved install all the packages separately
[11:26] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:26] <lordievader> Err afternoon.
[11:29] <skreech_> Guest40673: Hmm wonder if they need a maintainer for that
[11:34] <skreech_> Guest40673: What did you install out of curiousity?
[11:34] <skreech_> lordievader: Hey! :)
[11:36] <Guest40673> skreech_: The packages listed here http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/edubuntu-desktop-kde and also the apps from http://edu.kde.org/applications/
[11:36] <skreech_> Guest40673: ok thanks :)
[11:43] <littlebit> hi people, I'm looking for the package that contains 'gnutls-cli'
[11:43] <littlebit> can someone help
[11:45] <skreech_> !search gnutls-cli
[11:45] <skreech_> hmm
[11:45] <skreech_> !find gnutls-cli
[11:45] <skreech_> littlebit: ^^^
[11:46] <skreech_> !info gnutls-bin | littlebitThat's what you want
[11:46] <monkeyjuice> what you trying to do skreech_
[11:47] <skreech_> monkeyjuice: Find a package
[11:47] <monkeyjuice> ok ;)
[11:50] <littlebit> skreech_: thanks
[13:11] <stephane> irc.freenode.net - #digikam
[13:20] <aguero> hello,how to uninstall input method
[13:23] <Kromitvs> Hy. Whenever I connect a usb pen, I get two notifications. In Dolphin I also see two devices, but only one works, the other reports an error: already mounted. Where/how should I look for solving this?
[13:30] <__dan__> Hi guys quick question if I may, just upgraded Kubuntu 13.10 from 13.04 - I have desktop widgets that are still running but not visible on any desktop (I know this because add widgets already shows a green tick, and one of the widgets is still doing its job) how can I find and reposition them? Cheers :)
[13:55] <jack> In »»kubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso«« speichern.
[14:24] <Roey> hi.  I am using Partition Manager, and I see that the "resize" menu option for a partition I've been made shows up gray.  Why can't I resize it?
[14:26] <ikonia> Roey: is there space either side of it (directly) is it mounted ?
[14:28] <Roey> sure is
[14:28] <Roey> I removed a partition after it
[14:28] <ikonia> sure is what ?
[14:28] <ikonia> Roey: ok, has the partition table been saved and re-read after you removed the partition ?
[14:28] <Roey> There is unallocated space after this partition.
[14:29] <Roey> I assumed that "apply" after deleting the partition on the end  will suffice, yes?
[14:29] <ikonia> Roey: maybe easier to take a screen shot rather than me asking 20 questions
  <sda2>  <unallocated, that used to be sda3>
[14:29] <ikonia> Roey: apply makes the changes, doesn't mean it's  been re-read after the changes
[14:29] <Roey> I want to expand sda2
[14:29] <ikonia> Roey: grab a screen shot then we can share data easier
[14:29] <Roey> ikonia:  aha, so how do I do this?
[14:29] <Roey> sure
[14:32] <Roey> ikonia:  http://wstaw.org/w/2j0Z/linki/
[14:33] <Roey> ikonia:  that sda2 I made with Partition Manager as unformatted, then I manually formatted it as BTRFS with mkfs.btrfs.
[14:33] <ikonia> Roey: which one ar eyou tyring to resize ?
[14:34] <Roey> sda2.
[14:34] <ikonia> Roey: it's status is "unknown" that maybe the rason
[14:34] <Roey> ok, it's btrfs.
[14:34] <ikonia> there probably isn't support for btrfs in  the tool
[14:34] <Roey> ok
[14:34] <Roey> is there another tool I can use to resize the sda2 partition?
[14:35] <ikonia> (that's not fact, just a basic assumption)
[14:35] <Roey> ok
[14:36] <ahoneybun> ikonia, hey could you help with a certain part of the Kubuntu Docs?
[14:37] <ikonia> no idea, I'm not really aware much of the kubuntu docs, just ask and the channel will help if they can
[14:38] <ahoneybun> ikonia, help writing a part of it
[14:38] <ahoneybun> you seem to know a bit about partitions
[14:39] <ahoneybun> ikonia, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Installation/DiskSetup
[14:39] <ikonia> if I can help I'll certainly be happy to
[14:39] <ahoneybun> awesome, yea we need someone with some exp with partitions to help fill in that page a bit and help proofread
[14:40] <Roey> ikonia:  ok thanks, it seems that GParted can resize it.
[14:40] <ikonia> Roey: tha's interesting.
[14:40] <ahoneybun> Roey, I love gparted
[14:40] <Roey> heh
[14:40] <ikonia> Roey: maybe woth logging a bug for that as a "feature request"
[14:40] <Roey> ahoneybun, what do you like about it?\
[14:40] <Roey> ikonia:  ok
[14:40] <Roey> thanks ikonia
[14:40] <ahoneybun> Roey, it is powerful while still simple to you
[14:41] <ahoneybun> excellent application
[14:41] <Roey> ahoneybun:  have you tried the KDE Partiiton Manager?
[14:41] <Roey> *Partition
[14:41] <Roey> it looks very much the same
[14:41] <ahoneybun> Roey, yes just so used to gparted
[14:45] <Roey> aye
[14:45] <Roey> ikonia:  are you familiar with btrfs operations (snapshotting, etc.) ?
[14:45] <Roey> ikonia:  I have a question about BTRFS snapshots.  Can I snapshot a filesystem or do I have to create a subvolume directory first
[14:45] <Roey> ?
[14:46] <ikonia> ahoneybun: I'll have a proper rad through shortly but you certainly want to change the minimum %50 of your ram swap partition comment
[14:47] <ikonia> Roey: sure, I don't trust it for production use yet
[14:47] <lordievader> Hey skreech_, how are you?
[14:47] <ikonia> (I'm sufering from terrible lag - so sorry it's slow responses)
[14:48] <Roey> aye
[14:48] <Roey> it's ok
[14:49] <ahoneybun> ikonia, of course thank you when you get a change
[14:49] <ahoneybun> chance
[14:49] <ahoneybun> ikonia, need someone with  a bit more exp
[14:52] <ikonia> ahoneybun once my data sync is finished and my network is a bit quicker I'll have a proper discussion on it
[14:53] <ahoneybun> ikonia, cool
[14:59] <enero> ciao a tutti
[15:01] <enero> chi può aiutarmmi con kubuntu 13.10 ad installare scheda grafica ati mobility radeon hd4650
[15:06] <enero> qualcuno parla italiano?
[16:20] <eagles0513875> hey all
[16:27] <kinkie^> Hi all, a quick question on a multi-monitor setup. How do I make kubuntu _remember_ that there are multiple monitors? right now, it's a trip to System Settins or a call to xrandr for each login.. thanks!
[16:51] <Shaan7> kinkie^: newer versions of kubuntu ship with kscreen which is supposed to remember that
[16:52] <Shaan7> if you are using 13.04 or above and its not remembering, then its a bug. Please report it.
[16:52] <kinkie^> seems not. I'm on saucy
[16:52] <kinkie^> unless I'm doing something wrong
[16:52] <Shaan7> hmm weird, it works for me as when i goto office and plug in my monitor it remembers :|
[16:52] <therazr> hey guys. Has anyone tried to configure ibus (or any other input method backend) in Kubuntu 13.10?
[16:52] <kinkie^> how can I check?
[16:53] <Shaan7> kinkie^: unlikely, as its supposed to work automagically. Can you send a screenshot of your display settings when multiple monitors are ceonnected?
[16:53] <Shaan7> mine looks like this with one, http://i.imgur.com/0o8hVWs.png
[16:59] <kinkie^> http://imgur.com/CRMTyNb
[17:00] <kinkie^> I can set it just fine. But the changed settings don't stick; that's the annoying part
[17:08] <Shaan7> kinkie^: thats sad and mostly a bug. Just report it on bugs.kde.org and see if one of the devs has a solution.
[17:09] <kinkie^> ok, thanks!
[17:09] <Shaan7> you're welcome, though I wasn't of much use :P
[17:12] <kinkie^> still you made the effort. Thanks for that
[17:17] <Shaan7> :)
[17:34] <apb> On Thunderbird 24, I can't see the "thumb" of the scrollbar.  Anyone know how to turn it on, or change it's color or whatever it will take to make it visible?
[18:06] <jack> kubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso<- what's current?(versions)
[18:07] <jack> which kde does it contain?
[18:09] <therazr> jack: It's KDE4.11.2
[18:09] <jack> sounds good, thx
[18:12] <genii> !info kde-window-manager saucy
[18:13] <jack> therazr, other noteworthy versions?
[18:13] <jack> (dunno what exactly i'm thinking about)
[18:14] <therazr> haha, I was finding it hard to give you a good answer for that
[18:14] <jack> :P
[18:14] <jack> bad question, admitted
[18:15] <therazr> jack: Software should be uptodate as of the version freeze for Ubuntu 13.10
[18:15] <therazr> jack: But if you want specific examples, KMail is much faster, and Amarok has new great features
[18:15] <jack> whatever, i'm downloading it
[18:15] <jack> sweet
[18:15] <jack> :)
[18:16] <jack> i'll getalong with the contents
[18:16] <jack> no doubt
[18:38] <myrti> hi, kworker is using 100% of my cpu.. what does it do and can I kill it?
[18:39] <jack> myrti, talk to nickserv first:P
[18:40] <kaddi> ok
[18:40] <kaddi> hi, kworker is using 100% of my cpu.. what does it do and can I kill it?
[18:40] <jack> now: /msg nickserv release myrti yourpasswd
[18:41] <kaddi> i'm not even sure myrti is registered to me on this network
[18:41] <kaddi> it's just my default identity
[18:41] <kaddi> this nick, however, is definitely mine
[18:41] <jack> ...ok
[18:42] <jack> "killall -9 kworker" should do
[18:43] <kaddi> yeah, not my nick, apparently.. i've never known anybody besides me to use that nick.. kinda interesting
[18:43] <jack> lol :P
[18:43] <kaddi> it's only been regged for 2 weeks too
[18:43] <kaddi> it says no process found
[18:44] <kaddi> it's running as root
[18:44] <kaddi> not sure I feel comfy killing it
[18:46] <jack> i think it's auto-relaunched on demand
[18:46] <kaddi> so sudo killal kworker?
[18:46] <kaddi> what does kworker do?
[18:47] <jack> no idea :/
[18:47] <jack> let me ask father google
[18:47] <kaddi> i'm kinda worried I'll take the os down if I just kill one of the root processes :p
[18:49] <jack> http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
[18:51] <kaddi> guess there's no way to kill it
[18:51] <kaddi> it ignores sudo kill -9 47
[18:52] <Okitain> no doubt. Maybe reboot and file kernel bug, kaddi?
[18:52] <jack> "kworker" is a placeholder process for kernel worker threads, which perform most of the actual processing for the kernel, especially in cases where there are interrupts, timers, I/O, etc.
[19:01] <kaddi> but i don't wanna reboot :/
[19:05] <kaddi> all better nw
[19:07] <Kromitvs> Hy. Whenever I connect a usb pen, I get two notifications. In Dolphin I also see two devices, but only one works, the other reports an error: already mounted. Where/how should I look for solving this?
[19:11] <Okitain> Kromitvs: have you tried installing Linux on the flash drive before?
[19:12] <Guest88257> Guys, I have configured that when I push the power button, it has to ask me what I want to do but instead of that, it shuts down automatically!
[20:14] <apb1963> how do I add a program to the desktop?
[20:15] <soee> apb1963, hi
[20:15] <soee> you mean a shortcut ?
[20:15] <apb1963> soee: I don't know what I mean... I was told to add the binary to the desktop since the program isn't popping a window when I run it from a terminal.
[20:17] <soee> apb1963, and do you have any error in terminal ?
[20:17] <apb1963> soee: no error... you can see it in the process list
[20:18] <soee> apb1963, and what app is it ?
[20:19] <apb1963> soee: zoiper
[20:24] <soee> hmm dont know it
[20:30] <apb1963> soee: it's a softphone
[20:30] <apb1963> soee: how do I add it as a shortcut?
[20:33] <apb1963> ok someone else just said he can run it from a terminal... he gets some gtk warnings but it still comes up for him.  Why would I get nothing??
[20:46] <Taduro> Guys, I have configured that when I push the power button, it has to ask me what I want to do but instead of that, it shuts down automatically!
[20:57] <Guest6675> salve a tutti
[21:03] <JMichaelX> is there no longer a place in settings in saucy to configure things like display resolution, refresh rate, etc.?
[21:04] <Addle> JMichaelX: There is. In System Settings, there's "Display and Monitor"
[21:05] <JMichaelX> Addle: yes, and there is nothing there about resolution or refresh rate (that i can see)
[21:05] <Addle> JMichaelX: The third icon in the rectangle representing the screen allows selecting resolution and refresh.
[21:05] <Addle> JMichaelX: Icon is like a window with inward facing arrows.
[21:05] <JMichaelX> Addle: thank you so much.
[21:05] <Addle> JMichaelX: You're welcome :)
[21:51] <Crell> Hi folks.  I'm looking for directions.
[21:51] <Crell> I know there's somewhere in the system settings to tell the computer which KIO protocols should support image previews in Dolphin, but I can't for the life of me remember where it is.  So far no luck just poking around in the settings app.
[21:51] <Crell> Any pointers?
[23:26] <kaddi> hi, i can only change my volume through alsamixer in command line, because i need to change device before applying the changes. How can I change the default device, that kmixer addresses?
[23:26] <kaddi> (runnign 13.10 on 64bit)
[23:31] <kubuntu_> salut
[23:31] <kubuntu_> il y a quelqun?
[23:34] <kubuntu_> hello?
[23:38] <valorie> pfff