[00:02] valorie: SHeesh, I still got nothing, I can't get it to go back to my laptop screen :-( [00:11] Does anyone else have suggestions for my multiple display issue? === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine [00:55] Hello everyone [00:55] hi Bigpat [00:56] I have an issues with Muon Discover [00:56] I did the most stupidest thing by hiding the menus and I have been trying to re enable it for the last 4 days [00:57] I can't even find any info on the web and the short cut keys are not even working === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ [00:58] the question is in the Muon Discover software center how do i default everything [00:59] using 13.10 === Tm_T_ is now known as Guest28208 === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine === NightmareMoon is now known as Luna [01:08] !netsplit [01:08] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine [01:38] Hey there. I have asked this before, and been searching for a solution,but haven't found one yet. In 13.04 my display worked fine. Since upgrading things worked fine, I then plugged in my TV via HDMI (had done this in 13.04). When I unplug the HDMI, my leptop screen goes blank. i can only get to see my laptop screen whne plugged into the TV. I have tried various setings in System Setting , Displys [01:39] check your vidoe cards setting [01:40] does it suppor dual monitor [01:41] trying to find out which one is supposed to be your primary monitor and select it. It may help [01:41] Bigpat: It is a built-in Intel card on a 6 mos old laptop. It had worked fine in 13.04, I had plugged it in and out of the same TV just fine [01:42] Does anyone know of any software that I can use to manage a lending scheme? [01:43] Sort of like a library but not tied to Books [01:44] does your laptop support back light === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler [01:45] Bigpat: what do you mean? [01:45] It is an HP Envy with Intel video card and processor if that helps [01:45] 1 min [01:46] ok [01:46] what is the name of your video card [01:47] How would I find out? The screen on the laptop works. It just doesn't work when the HDMI cord is unplugeed from it now [01:47] It is lit up, just blank [01:48] Right now it is plugged into TV, I have the TV monitor in the screen setting unchecked, so nothing on the TV screen === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter === JMichaelX is now known as TrevorCory [02:27] valorie: This worked for me: DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output LVDS1 --auto [02:45] how to re enable the search menu in Muon discover in 13.10. I select to hide the menu but I'm unable to get it back === TrevorCory is now known as JMichaelX === UndeadBeef is now known as BurningBeef === BurningBeef is now known as Steakofthedead === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler [03:54] darn, bigpat left [03:54] so easy: control M [03:54] hi === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off [04:01] valorie: hi!! [04:02] hi skreech_ [04:02] how are ya? [04:02] Good :) [04:02] bjrohan: I saw you found success [04:03] but how on earth did you find that? [04:03] valorie: That doesn't work here. I had to actually change "MenuBar=Disabled" to "MenuBar=Enabled" in .kde/share/config/muon-discoverrc [04:03] and where did you put it? [04:03] valorie: Wouldn't happen to know if there is anything like a Community asset tracking software? [04:03] Video seems to be corrected. Now I can not get any audio from any of my speakers, however in the Pulse Audio control, I the meters are moving. Alsa Mixer volume is all the way up, and not muted, any sugestions? [04:03] genii: not cool that muon doesn't follow KDE standards [04:03] personally, I would file a bug about that [04:04] bjrohan: does it make any difference what backend you use for phonon? [04:04] I would play with all the multimedia settings in systemsettings === bjrohan is now known as bjrohan_ [04:05] valorie: I used DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output LVDS1 --auto to reset my display :-). What is phonon? [04:05] notice that there is more than one tab [04:05] phonon is the abstraction layer between the other MM stuff and your equipment [04:05] Where would I find the phonon settings [04:07] systemsettings > multimedia [04:08] sound in linux, gah [04:08] I am there, should phonon be one of the items on the left? [04:08] so many layers [04:08] let's see what it says now [04:08] I, I see it, I had it open as Pulse Audio Control [04:08] I closed that, and then a secion opened in system settings multimedia [04:09] audio and video settings [04:09] much better [04:09] Yep, [04:09] why should anyone but the devels know the word 'phonon'? [04:11] I have that, I have tried the available options there, only 2 are options Builtin Audio Analog Stereo and Simultaneous output to Built inAnalof stereo [04:11] hmmmm [04:11] and does changing the order of those help? [04:12] builtin digital surround is grayed out as is Built in Audio Digital surround, and Built-in 4.0 analog surround [04:12] woah [04:12] changing the order doesn't help [04:12] so go to the next tab, and select something [04:12] I have a system with beats audio [04:12] It was working in 13.04 as well [04:12] it sounds like everything is deselected for some reason [04:13] the 4 speakers and base. [04:13] valorie: If I go to the next tab, and under the sound card, with built in audio profile has many options and selecting one of those highlights various ones on the first tab. [04:14] analog stereo duplex was working before [04:14] and it will again [04:14] esp. if alsamixer detected everything [04:15] sounds like some selection somewhere got hosed, though [04:17] This ALWAYS happens to me on upgrades, something fails and I go through this trying to fix it. Is this normal? [04:18] I can't say it's never happened to me, but it's been at least a year or two [04:18] and sometimes I do the beta [04:18] once even the alpha [04:19] IMO if you have the time, sign up to do testing [04:19] I did the Beta once, then I figured I didn't want to go through it, I have aited for full releases, but I still get bugs [04:19] that way your equipment will always be considered [04:19] Ah [04:19] well, bugs are a part of life with computers [04:19] bjrohan_: Well, I have to say that upgrades can be problematic. There's a reason Mint decided it was less trouble to just not allow upgrades. [04:20] in linux, though, you can assist the devels in fixing them, by giving them good information [04:20] valorie: Also tending gardens [04:20] skreech_: what? [04:20] bjrohan_: Really, it's hard to cope with everything a user could have done to their systems between updates. [04:20] Bugs are a part of ... :) [04:21] Yep, on the good side, it keeps getting better and better, thanks to everyone, including those who take the time to log bug reports. :) [04:21] Well yes, and I do enjoy Linux for the "nerdiness" of it [04:22] Sometimes, I'm almost sad when everything is perfect. Then, I have to come up with an excuse to play with my installations. hehe [04:24] Addle: lol [04:24] :-) [04:25] I found jack retasking, I get audio, but I can't increase or decrease volume :-( [04:25] Addle: upgrade to the dev beta :) [04:25] yikes [04:26] bjrohan_: the final thing to check is that third tab, which is the backend [04:26] you can use either gstreamer or vlc as a phonon-backend [04:26] both have their strengths and weaknesses [04:27] skreech_: haha Yeah, I guess that'll do it. [04:28] valorie: the only one I show is g-streamer. I have VLC player installed does that help? [04:30] !info libvlc5 [04:30] libvlc5 (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer library. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-1 (saucy), package size 41 kB, installed size 144 kB [04:31] it isn't a lib, but phonon-backend-vlc [04:32] !info phonon-backend-vlc [04:32] phonon-backend-vlc (source: phonon-backend-vlc): Phonon VLC backend. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-2 (saucy), package size 79 kB, installed size 321 kB [04:34] installing now to see what happens [04:36] valorie: Ever heard of an Asset management software? That tracks physical stuph ? [04:37] I think most people just use a database for that [04:37] valorie: VLC worked, The audio works, volume controls work, now just the mute key button light stays on [04:37] \0/ [04:38] * valorie thinks that a spot of electrical tape might help on that mute button [04:38] lol [04:38] valorie: Yeah :) I just was hoping not to recreate one [04:39] well, I haven't looked [04:39] :-) [04:40] surely there is library or warehouse stuff that could be re-purposed [04:40] skreech_: ask around at hackerspace/makerspace type places [04:40] they have to be using something to keep track of stuff [04:41] valorie: Yeah I was thinking they probably have stuff to track community tool pools [04:41] I was looking at Library stuff as well but they are really ISBN based [04:41] Stupid organized book readers..... -__- [04:42] freegeek may even have a chan here [04:42] Curse you and your years of experience!! [04:42] sure, but the backend can probably be changed from ISBN to some other number [04:42] Not familiar with freekgeek [04:43] FREEgeek [04:43] not freeks [04:43] Ahhhh :) [04:43] lol [04:43] Right [04:43] That would have been an embarrassing meeting to turn up to [04:44] skreech_: do you know about alis? [04:44] valorie: Are you in Toronto? [04:45] it does searching of freenode [04:45] yes [04:45] for instance, do a /msg alis list *freegeek* [04:45] and see what you get [04:45] ( we have a FreeGeek here in Toronto, on Vine Street ) [04:45] genii: an hour out of Seattle [04:45] cool [04:45] we have one in Seattle, too [04:45] there are more of that kind of thing all the time [04:46] hackerspaces and makerspaces as well [04:46] I love it [04:46] free culture! [04:46] :-D [04:46] Yes, it's good stuff. [04:47] hi guys [04:47] i got a question, maybe you can help me [04:47] I am in Vancouver WA, there is one in Portland, been there for Portland Linux Group after hours. I have a computer to take in to donate [04:48] bjrohan: awesome [04:48] i got the plasma desktop or whatever its named and if i minimize windows they get like greyed out in the taskbar [04:48] which i would like to turn off [04:48] is this possible? [04:50] Eav: when you right-click in an empty space in the panel, you can go to panel options > panel settings [04:50] maybe there? [04:52] nope sadly not [04:52] i've looked there already [04:52] maybe i should try a skin? [04:53] Eav: I fail to see why you'd ever want to do that, but perhaps in the color settings. [04:54] ok i think i'll stick with the dark theme, i can live with that [04:56] i couldnt read the greyed out windows [04:56] but with the dark theme its fine [04:57] Eav: Oh, I see. Yeah, I'd call that an issue with the specific theme. That's always annoying. When I try dark themes, a lot of the time, I end up with unreadable text *somewhere*. [04:57] Eav: Glad you sorted it out to your satisfaction. :) [04:57] Ah ok Eav got it sorted [04:58] 1 more thing [04:59] if i start dolphin on my 2nd monitor it seems to start with the resolution of my 1st monitor [04:59] any way to fix this? [05:01] * skreech_ wishes I knew more about Dual monitors. [05:13] I just installed kubuntu and I cant get my wireless to stay connected, anyone know how I can fix this? [05:14] Eav: It will restore the application to whatever geometry (in pixels) it remembers from the last use. So if I get what you mean, no, there's probably no way to affect that. Maybe Weston will make better use of DPI. One can hope. :) [05:14] Eav: I could be wrong, of course. That's always a possibility. [05:27] arquebus: It connects? for how long? [05:28] it connected just for a moment when I first booted, then I lost connection and I cant find any way to reconnect [05:31] skreech_: what do you think? I dont even see a 'reconnect' button [05:31] arquebus: First thing I'd do is look at the logs to see if there's any error messages. Try dmesg | less and look near the end for anything incriminating. [05:32] (q will exit the 'less' pager, in case you're new to it) [05:33] (and 0G will go to the end) [05:34] Addle: I dont see any errors having to do with wireless or networks, like I say, it connected momentarily when I first booted, and now I have no idea how to reconnect [05:37] arquebus: That's odd. Normally, there should be an icon in your system tray that allows you to connect and so on. Why it should disconnect you and not leave any messages in dmesg is a mystery. [05:37] arquebus: I should add a disclaimer: I've had a bottle of wine, and I don't drink often, so perhaps my debugging skills are dulled. ;) [05:38] Addle: whats strange is that the full list of wireless networks shows up when I click the wireless icon in the tray, I get a message that it cant connect to network I have selected [05:39] arquebus: Hm, one would have liked a more detailed error message. lol [05:40] arquebus: Network Manager should log stuff to daemon.log, iirc. Worth looking at. [05:40] arquebus: Ugh, no more daemon.log. nvm. [05:41] wait, I ran that command again and I got a bunch of messages that say "Queue 0 failed to flush" [05:41] as well as "Queue 2 failed to flush" [05:43] arquebus: I think NetworkManager logs to /var/log/syslog now. [05:43] arquebus: I think you hit a kernel bug. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=169956 [05:45] Addle: great job!! thats the exact wireless hardware I have on my laptop [05:45] arquebus: Ahah! hehe [05:46] the #ubuntu-kernel folks are very helpful [05:46] arquebus: Well, at least it's fixed in the latest kernel releases. Beyond that, you'd probably have to patch your kernel to get it to work. Anyways, mystery solved, at least. :) [05:46] and might have a patch for you to test [05:47] Addle: maybe an update firmware would work [05:50] arquebus: Well, it seldom hurts, but if the kernel module has a bug, that's probably where the real solution lies. [05:50] Addle: ok [05:51] arquebus: Someone reports having installed a package on Ubuntu 13.10 and getting it to work in this: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61621 [05:51] bugzilla.kernel.org bug 61621 in network-wireless "Cards with rt3290 stop functioning after a while, have to reboot to resume normal operations" [High,New] [05:51] arquebus: See the comment by Rok. [05:53] arquebus: Obviously, you take your chances installing something from rghost.net. I know nothing about that service or Rok. [05:54] https://launchpad.net/~barracuda72/+archive/ralink/ is where it came from. [05:54] Addle: thanks big time, I'll look through this, I have a feeling though my best bet is to wait till the next version of Ubuntu comes out [05:54] arquebus: Glad to be of service. Good luck! :) [05:55] * genii makes more coffee [06:01] hi [06:01] why did my spdif sound suddenly stop? I can hear stuff on my headphones, but the spdif connection to the receiver just cut suddenly. I checked with alsamixer and I do not see SPDIF muted at all. [06:08] bleah, why did arquebus leave, rather than checking with #ubuntu-kernel? [06:08] pfff [06:08] how about in pulseaudio, Roey? [06:09] so many freaking layers in linux sound [06:10] Sound comes from Youtube in Firefox and also from Amarok, but only in headphones [06:11] did you check what systemsettings says? [06:11] one sec [06:11] but why would it do that all of a sudden? [06:11] that's an excellent question [06:11] that's the second time this happened. [06:11] Obvious answer: There's a bug. :) [06:12] it fits also into the random nature of reality [06:12] I love Linux. It's awesome and one of my favorite things in the world. But sometimes, the sound subsystems... *sigh* [06:12] Addle: indeed [06:16] Addle: oh goodie :) === thelionroars is now known as thelionsleeps [07:11] blablabla] [07:17] hello [07:17] home: have you a question? [07:17] my new person learn ubuntu sistem [07:17] plz help 1 ask for my [07:17] soryy me poor linguage englesh [07:18] my interesting instal world of warcraf , posibil or no posibil [07:18] what is your preferred language? [07:18] yes, you can run WoW under wine [07:18] !info wine [07:18] ya wow [07:18] wine (source: wine1.4): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (meta-package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4.1-0ubuntu7 (saucy), package size 0 kB, installed size 21 kB (Only available for i386; amd64) [07:19] plz link for download wine [07:19] i am vceryy veryy noob [07:19] look for it in your package manager called Muon [07:19] Muon will download and install for you [07:20] ty mate [07:20] have fun! [07:21] este cineva care intelege ce am scris aici [07:32] hey everyone for some reason my track pad is not working at all it seems like lsusb picks it up any ideas would be greatly appreciated === thelionsleeps is now known as thelionroars [07:38] Addle: the funny thing actually my track pad appears in the syslog [07:39] alguien que me pueda dar un tutorial de como configurar kubuntu 13.10 [07:40] !es | j4gu4r [07:40] j4gu4r: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. [07:45] i got a question - i installed chromium via the terminal, but now i cant start it via the kde menu just via terminal. how can i change this? [07:53] how exactly did you install it, Eav? [07:54] if you did it with apt-get, it will make no difference [07:54] if you downloaded it from elsewhere, dunno [07:59] Eav: It should normally show up. Try searching for it in the KDE menu search. Otherwise, logging out and back in should work, though it shouldn't be necessary. [07:59] best dvd-playback app for kde? [07:59] kaffeine? [07:59] jack: I like VLC. Kaffeine is pretty good too. [07:59] yeah, vlc rules [07:59] merci bien [08:00] are there others? [08:00] On that we agree. Bienvenue :) [08:01] That's all I ever bother to use. [08:01] mmh [08:01] There's probably a bunch more that work, though. Like mplayer, etc. [08:01] mplayer, right [08:02] If it's not playing DVDs, maybe you just need the videolan.org repos for dvdcss added. [08:02] need to apt-get that [08:02] jack: vlc is the best in the sense that it will play all formats [08:02] jack: ya apt-get ftw [08:03] standard dvd=one format [08:03] mpeg2 afaik [08:03] The old medibuntu repos are gone, so dvdcss needs to come from videolan.org, now. [08:03] ok [08:03] Addle: isnt ath stuff normally packaged with vlc [08:04] eagles0513875: Could be. VLC does tend to "just work". But it can't hurt to have dvdcss installed. [08:04] possibly [08:04] wish i could get my apache issue sorted on this lapotp [08:04] plus the track pad [08:05] really need to get it up and running as I need to get a wordpress theme started asap [08:05] Wish I could figure out why my friend's built-in webcam isn't even showing up on lspci or lsusb. Now there's a perplexing problem. [08:05] just compile httpd yourself [08:06] it's small enough [08:06] jack: i just need something to run test and dev sites on my local hosts [08:06] jack: thing is 13.10 has the latest version of apache 2.4 13.04 previous have 2.2 which im used to working with [08:07] get lighhtpd :P [08:07] erm, lighttpd [08:07] I suppose compiling 2.2 would work. As you were saying, though, good to future-proof it by porting the config files to 2.4. [08:12] Addle: i will be eventually my production servers [08:13] Addle? [08:13] eagles0513875: What I'd do is start from the default config files and add my stuff to it piece by piece until it breaks. Then I'd know where the problem was right away. [08:13] an os? [08:14] ahh lol [08:14] Addle: im doing that on this laptop :( and i cant seem to find jack and squat [08:14] stop highlighting me without a good reason [08:15] Never heard of squat, but jackd is in /usr/bin. XD [08:15] thx [08:15] lol [08:15] haha jack sorry i wasnt even referring to you [08:15] lol [08:16] argh Forbidden You don't have permission to access /php5-fcgi/index.php on this server. [08:16] error im getting trying to access a site on this laptop :( === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine [08:17] hey jalcine [08:17] Hopefully that's not on the main PHP site, which recently got compromised. PHP compromised. Go figure, what a shocker! [08:17] Addle: no im running an event driven setup using php fpm and fastcgi [08:17] eagles0513875, i figured [08:17] eagles0513875: how do you know I connected back to my ZNC? lol [08:18] [09:16:58] jalcine_ [~jacky@unaffiliated/webjadmin] is now known as jalcine that is how jack [08:18] whoops [08:18] AH [08:18] tab failure on my part meatn jalcine [08:18] lmfao [08:19] You just know I'll be slipping the word "jack" oh so casually into things for the next day or so, right? lol [08:19] :P [08:19] hahah [08:20] ugh, I hate this time of day [08:20] when nepomuk via virtouso kicks mysqld into full overtime [08:20] :( [08:20] I don't even use MySQL for webdev anymore [08:21] I switched to sqlite on this laptop. I have 1GB of RAM, I can't afford the 75MB for mysqld. hehe [08:22] i have 16g of ram lol [08:22] and a monster i7 [08:23] nice ;) [08:23] My desktop has a nice 16GB of RAM, at least. Laptop is old and sucks badly. But hey, it works. [08:23] The laptop is pretty much my dedicated IRC system. :) [08:25] lmfao [08:25] i can compile libreoffice from master in about 2 hrs [08:26] ttyl guys off to spend the day on the boat probably for the last time this year [08:27] Later, eagles0513875. Have fun! [08:27] thanks Addle will do :) [08:30] boat? where are you located? [08:30] .nl or some us coast? === jalcine is now known as jalcine_ [08:31] im located in europe on the island of malta jack we are 60 miles south of scicily [08:32] jack: I'm in Ontario, and my Dad has a sailboat. Don't need the sea for a boat. [08:32] you probably heard us when the libyan conflict started with those two military planes flying here [08:32] eagles0513875: Oh, that must be a nice looking area. [08:32] eagles0513875, cool [08:33] nice big lake, that "ocean" [08:34] The mediterranean. That's got to be nice. [08:34] it is [08:34] I really need to get to Europe at some point before I die. :) [08:34] terribly warm there though [08:35] Great Lakes and the Thousand Islands are nice, but they're no mediterranean. [08:35] jack: I can take it. I'm not even complaining in the early 30C's. On the other hand, winter *sucks*. [08:36] I was built for tropical climes, I think. [08:36] heh [08:36] are you black? [08:36] Anyone needs an experienced software developer somewhere warm, PM me. XD [08:36] Nope, about as white as possible. lol [08:36] hello i am return plz help 1 ask [08:37] see... [08:37] On the pantone color chart, I'm "fishbelly white". lol [08:37] i am download wine [08:37] :P [08:37] plz help how instal [08:37] home: sudo apt-get install wine [08:37] home: Or search for it in the package manager of your choice. [08:37] yes plz ???instal wine [08:39] just no undestaing [08:39] Ah, language barriers. Let's see... [08:39] ya [08:39] home: Type: sudo apt-get install wine [08:39] apt-get install babelfish :P [08:40] hehe [08:40] lol ok [08:42] easily belongs into the "nicest visions of the 20th century"category [08:42] <3 douglas adams [08:42] Agreed! [08:42] :) [08:42] Man was a genius. [08:42] indeed [08:43] You've read Terry Pratchett, right? [08:43] i love his thhgttg [08:43] nope [08:43] X client - xwininfo [08:43] xwininfo is a small tool that was part of xbase-clients. [08:43] More information about X.Org can be found at: [08:43] This module can be found as the module 'app/xwininfo' at :pserver:anoncvs@cvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/xorg [08:43] home: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:43] discworld my ass [08:44] That's between you and your ass. Myself, I love Discworld. :) [08:44] you'd say it's up to comparison with thhgttg? [08:45] ok ty [08:45] I would. Both are probably my favorite authors of all time, comedy wise. [08:45] all right, i might read it [08:46] Douglas Adams is awesome, though, no question about it. I miss him. :( [08:47] if he has only 10% of douglas adams' humour [08:48] hehe True. [08:48] it's cool already [08:48] "Mort" is probably one of my favorites. [08:49] mort? makes me think of harry potter [08:49] lord voldemort or so [08:49] Mort is the aptly named Death's apprentice. [08:49] Mort being "Death" in French, of course. [08:49] haha ok [08:49] <---- Speaks French [08:50] i know [08:50] <--- was born in paris [08:50] jack: Bien, alors! :) [08:50] ;) [08:51] warning: my french sucks anyway [08:51]