[01:26] <Elleo> okay... next problem; how do I prevent my app from being suspended when it gets put in the background/the phone gets locked?
[02:26] <Elleo> ah, from browsing the mailinglist archives it'd seem running apps in the background isn't supported at all :/
[02:26] <Elleo> that's rather crippling for a music player
[02:33] <Elleo> heh, found a crude way of hacking around that restriction for now, at least until proper background daemon stuff is implemented
[02:45] <Elleo> perhaps not, that seems to lead to mir crashing a lot :/
[08:42] <popey> Elleo: we can set exceptions for some apps
[09:01] <Elleo> popey: yeah, I just noticed that the music app had its apparmor thing set as "unconfined"
[09:02] <Elleo> was about to see if I could do that myself :P but I guess it needs special privileges
[09:03] <Elleo> popey: who should I speak to about getting such an exception?
[09:07] <popey> good question
[09:07] <popey> i know if you set it unconfined in the click package and submit it to the store, we get stopped and have to manually review the code
[09:07] <popey> we already have some exceptions, music is just one
[09:08] <Elleo> setting it to unconfined doesn't seem to alter the background behaviour
[09:08] <Elleo> unless apparmor is still using the old profile
[09:09] <popey> oh, no, sorry, I was confused
[09:09] <Elleo> oh?
[09:10]  * ogra_ desparately tries to get a back button in a qml wrapped webapp ... 
[09:10] <ogra_> seems there is no documentation for UbuntuWebView at all
[09:12] <ogra_> my app has a toolbar, but no objects in it ... i would imagine enabling a toolbar button should just be matter of setting a property, but i cant seem to be able to find which one
[09:14] <popey> Elleo: there's a lengthy thread on it at the moment on the ubuntu phone list
[09:14] <popey> "Thoughts on inhibiting app suspend via application lifecycle"
[09:15] <Elleo> okay, will take a look
[09:15] <Elleo> I found a few posts from a while back mentioning future plans to allow apps to have daemons in the background
[09:15] <popey> unfortunately it's still a bit up in the air
[09:15] <popey> yes, exacly
[09:15] <Elleo> which would be kind of doable, but a massive pain
[09:15] <popey> so not complete yet
[09:15] <Elleo> since it'd involve completely refactoring the app
[09:16] <popey> well it's possible we may have a background service provided by the system for music specifically
[09:16] <Elleo> not entirely sure that'd help with spotify
[09:16] <Elleo> since it has to process small buffers of audio data sent from libspotify
[09:16] <Elleo> rather than something that can be easily handed off to a non-spotify aware process
[09:17] <popey> right
[09:17] <popey> worth bringing up on the list then
[09:17] <Elleo> will do
[12:12] <karty> hello
[12:12] <karty> is there any IDE to design touch apps over drag and drop?
[12:13] <karty> other than QTcreater
[12:57] <goldenratio> Hey.. need help
[12:58] <goldenratio> I can't find Ubuntu Touch under project templates..
[15:59] <karty> hello em kinda new to this app development stuff but not to programming .... need some info regarding the development stuff pattern. somebody could help me out please ?
[16:03] <Elleo> karty: not entirely sure what you mean by "development stuff pattern"? but there's a slim chance I might be able to answer a question or two
[16:03] <Elleo> I've only been hacking around with ubuntu touch stuff for a few days though
[18:04] <alinaseri25> REGISTER m09361996698 alinaseri25@gmail.com
[18:55] <nik90> Hi Everyone, Can anyone let me know where I can find documentation concerning friends and sharing images or text with social networks?
[18:55] <nik90> I intend to write a post similar to http://nik90.com/adding-infographics-to-ubuntu-phone/ to make it clear for users to quickly pick up that feature in their programs
[19:03] <popey> nik90: someone else was looking for that. i couldn't turn up any docs, but it seems ureadit (on lp) has code to do that
[19:03] <popey> sharing that is
[19:05] <nik90> popey: ah okay. That should be good enough
[19:05] <nik90> thnx
[21:32] <aquarius> mzanetti, ping
[21:32] <aquarius> mzanetti, the xbmc remote is yours, yes?
[21:33] <aquarius> mzanetti, it won't connect to my xbmc: the host is detected, but tapping the host says "connection failed: connection refused". The xbmc remote on my iphone connects and controls xbmc fine, so I don't think it's a server issue.
[22:24] <nik90> aquarius: take a look at https://plus.google.com/111980561516715514914/posts/33cvBpAzhWK
[22:25] <nik90> aquarius: the OP solves it in his comments
[22:25] <aquarius> aaah, so he does
[22:25] <aquarius> nice
[22:26] <aquarius> that suggests...what? that the xbmc remote forr Ubuntu Touch works differently to other remotes?
[22:26] <aquarius> still, if it works, I'm happy :)
[22:26] <nik90> :)
[22:30] <aquarius> and... that does in fact work. Sweet.
[22:30] <aquarius> thank you :)
[22:38] <a_muva> anyone familiar  with FolderListModel in QLM?
[23:00] <aquarius> a_muva, mot in any detail, I'm afraid. I used it once, but a while ago. Sorry.
[23:01] <a_muva> I'm trying pass a variable to folder property but it's not working., not sure why.
[23:02] <a_muva> if I hard code the string everything works but if I use string property it does not.
[23:03] <a_muva> somethink like folder: "/home/user"- works
[23:03] <a_muva> but folder: userPath - does not
[23:30] <aquarius> weird.
[23:32] <Elleo> when is the userPath property being populated?
[23:32] <Elleo> is it possible that FolderListModel is loading when its still empty and then not handling the change correctly?
[23:34] <aquarius> that's what I was wondering
[23:34] <aquarius> the whole declarative magic does tend to screw up in that sort of situation :)
[23:35] <Elleo> heh
[23:35] <aquarius> actually...shouldn't it be something.userPath ?
[23:35] <aquarius> if userPath is a property *on* folderlistmodel, why would you not just set folder directly?
[23:35] <Elleo> depends, it might be a context property
[23:36] <Elleo> rather than a property of a qml thing