[13:41] <sh1ngo> ?help
[13:43] <penguin42> state the nature of the help required
[13:47] <sh1ngo> Hello, i'm trying to install ubuntu 13.10 with full encryption (+LVM) on my laptop. I live in Belgium and my keyboard is Azerty (be-latin1 I suppose). i give in my passphrase (contains a "!"), but on boot it says i entered a wrong passphrase. I googled the issue and I found it's a bug (Ubuntu 11.04...) which only accepts US keyboard layout on startup (which is a critical bug if u ask me), can't find a solution. Is there a fix to
[13:48] <penguin42> oh that is a bit nasty
[13:48] <sh1ngo> :(
[13:48] <sh1ngo> on windows with truecrypt, it always worked
[13:49] <sh1ngo> same passphrase
[13:49] <penguin42> sh1ngo: When you log in, do you get the right keyboard layout on the text console?
[13:49] <sh1ngo> yes, I select "dutch" language and it auto-detects my keyboard layout (belgian)
[13:49] <sh1ngo> of do you mean tty1 ?
[13:49] <sh1ngo> or*
[13:50] <penguin42> yeh I mean tty1
[13:50] <sh1ngo> sec
[13:50] <penguin42> if you type on tty1 is the keyboard layout correct?
[13:50] <sh1ngo> i'm on Live CD now, and tty is qwerty
[13:51] <sh1ngo> gui is azerty
[13:51] <penguin42> sh1ngo: OK, but do you think you can type your passphrase in so it will let you login for real?
[13:52] <sh1ngo> i googled qwerty layout and tried to enter it accordingly but it failed, so i don't know
[13:52] <sh1ngo> but the problem is the "!"
[13:52] <penguin42> I'm wondering if you're seeing bug 1235104 - although that's filed against mint
[13:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1235104 in Linux Mint "Passphrase for LVM & HDD Encryption is based on QWERTY Keyboard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1235104
[13:52]  * penguin42 looks up azerty keyboard - yeuch!
[13:53] <brainwash> this one 1047384
[13:53] <brainwash> bug 1047384
[13:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1047384 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "System Encryption Password set before setting keyboard locale" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1047384
[13:53] <penguin42> sh1ngo: Try shift-1
[13:54] <sh1ngo> that's what I did at boot... here in tty Live it works, but not after install :S
[13:54] <penguin42> sh1ngo: Actually, reading that bug, the problem is the other way around
[13:54] <sh1ngo> isn't there a way to just set keyboard layout to be-latin1 in tty so installer accepts it?
[13:54] <penguin42> sh1ngo: It suggests that the passphrase entry used qwerty but perhaps the boot process used it correctly
[13:56] <penguin42> sh1ngo: if your text console is in qwerty at the moment, then I'd try typing your passphrase like you think you did and see what comes out on the terminal; then try entering what it says
[13:56] <sh1ngo> maybe i should just try and  type my passphrase "qwerty-style" in installer so i can type it in azerty at boot :p but tats not rly a  real solution
[13:56] <sh1ngo> ye probably
[13:56] <sh1ngo> but still, it should  be fixed tbh :(
[13:57] <penguin42> yeh, I agree
[13:58] <penguin42> sh1ngo: Reading that bug it turns out to be non-trivial for the installer to fix because it means they have to change the order around
[13:58] <sh1ngo> why don't they do it? ^^
[13:58] <penguin42> sh1ngo: The other thing is that you can change your luks passphrase post install, so maybe use a simple passphrase during install and then change it later
[13:59] <sh1ngo> i'm just going to install now, typing the passphrase "qwerty-style", should work, thanks for your time ! it's a painful bug :/
[14:00] <sh1ngo> cya !
[14:00] <penguin42> yeh agreed
[14:02] <penguin42> that's a depressingly bad, understood bug to be left so broken for so long
[16:42] <hjd> Could someone please mark bug 1245143 as Triaged/High? (It's an editor, so opening files is a rather essential feature).
[16:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1245143 in python-defaults (Ubuntu) "Idle does not open .py files" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1245143
[16:44]  * penguin42 looks
[16:46] <penguin42> hjd: Why is that against python-defaults ?
[16:49] <hjd> penguin42: I wondered about that too, but when I checked the overview page (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults) it looks like it offers the idle binary. So I assume that is actually correct.
[16:50] <penguin42> ah yeh you're right
[16:54] <penguin42> done
[16:57] <hjd> penguin42: Thank you :)
[16:57] <penguin42> no problem