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wilee-nileedingle, boot a live cd/usb and see if it works.00:00
dinglewilee-nilee: it works, i also have a dual system, when i boot from windows the sound card works00:01
nico_lkfdklf00:01
bjrohanI need help with displays. I am usin Kubuntu, but I am not able to get a resolution in there . .  yet.00:02
clayton_k1l: it's a geforce gtx 460. kernel-headers: I'm not sure. This is basically one of the first things I did after installing it. How can I check? log: anything I should look for in particular?00:03
Dr_Willis_dingle:  does it work from a UBUNTU live cd?00:03
dingleDr_Willis_: yes00:04
bjrohanOn my laptop all was working fine until I updated to 13.10. All was fine until I connected my HDMI to my TV. When disconnecting it, my laptop screen now goes blank, even after a rboot and logging into my degault account. logging into the guest account it all works fine00:04
Dr_Willis_'yes it does work from a ubuntu live cd' or 'no it does not work from a ubuntu live cd'   :)  the fact it works in windows. shows you at least got the speakers hooked up. ;)00:04
k1lclayton_: i got to leave now. but you can pastebin the apt log and the syslog from /var/log so supporters can have a look. good luck00:04
Dr_Willis_The fact it does work from a live cd is a good sign at least.00:04
dingleDr_Willis_: yes it works from a ubuntu live cd00:04
clayton_k1l: sure thing. thanks.00:04
Dr_Willis_dingle:  done a 'sudo apt-get update'  'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' on the installed system yet?00:04
dingleDr_Willis_: yes, the sound card was working until few days ago00:05
Dr_Willis_so it was working on a new install, then some updates or somnthing a day or 3 ago caused sound to stop working..00:05
wilee-nileedingle, Good, how fresh is this install, and how much twerking, lol, have you done?00:05
wilee-nileeany 3rd party repos...etc?00:07
nico_cvxc00:07
dinglewilee-nilee: i think the system is up to date, and A LOT00:07
wilee-nileedingle, a lot of 3rd parties, say ppa's?00:08
dinglewilee-nilee: no00:08
bjrohanDr_Willis_: You are an expert :-) Do you know where I may go to find the config file for display settings, multiple displays, and the HDMI out?00:08
wilee-nileedingle, what does a lot mean in this context?00:08
dinglewilee-nilee: ive removing and adding drivers for four days, following every tip i could find online on how to solve this00:09
dinglewilee-nilee: does this help http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=323f6e5b02fd2da8ff9478b71a28be87484c925e ?00:10
wilee-nileedingle, Ah, following tips on line, that can be a bane of bricking if you do not keep a record, and know how to reverse these changes or at least have a backup/clone of the working setup. I would just start over if it were me, and be more careful, trying to fix what you do not know is broke is a frustration that will give you more trouble than it's worth.00:11
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dinglewilee-nilee: i agree but i've been trying to avoid starting over because i don't have the time to set everything back the way i want00:13
wilee-nileedingle, All I can say is if you do it enough and know some tricks like saving app install listas repos and keys, and configs...ect that goes really fast, I cvan install and have the same setup in less time than you have been on this channel today.00:14
Dr_Willis_bjrohan:  for my nvidia systems - its in xorg.conf. each user also has their own config in their home00:15
Patero-ngis ubuntu growing in popularity in 2012 there use to be 1300-1500 people here now is always at 170000:16
wilee-nileedingle, and besides that I have clones of the setups already that takes about 5-10 min to reload.00:17
bjrohanDr_Willis_: I have a built in Intel graphics card, the GUI is not working very well. is the xorg.conf in the user home as well as a generic place?00:17
jorgeHola00:18
danfoPatero-ng: it is 2013?00:19
XLVPatero-ng either that or there are more issues for support :P00:19
jorgealguien habla español??00:20
Patero-ngXLV: that's truth00:20
Patero-ngjorge: hola jorgito00:20
jorgehola a todos00:20
Patero-ngjorge: este canal es en ingles solamente en espaniol es ubuntu-es00:21
jorgecomo hago para llegar ahi00:21
Patero-ngtipea /join #ubuntu-es00:21
jorgegracias patero00:22
cvtsxherro00:22
cvtsxcomo estas00:23
Patero-ngcvtsx: yo?00:23
Dr_Willis_bjrohan:  xorg.conf is options. there is some monitors/display setting file in the users home that they save to when they use the monitors/display settings tool00:24
Dr_Willis_bjrohan:  intel drivers are built in, so are rarely needed to be messed with00:24
bjrohanHmm, yeah. I didn't have this problem until the 13.10 uprade, perhaps go back to an older kernel and see?00:25
Patero-ngdanfo: 2013 and soon 201400:25
danfo:D00:25
Dr_Willis_ive seen 3000+ people in here on release day. ;) but i tend to avoid the channel for the first few days after release00:26
bjrohanDr_Willis_: Looks like when I plugged in the HDMI it triggered some setting in my regular account, b/c logging into a guest account everything is fine (I have not plugged the guest account into my TV to see what happens)00:26
Patero-ngDr_Willis_: oh wow I would love to be here that day00:26
Patero-ngI wish I was here for 10.0400:26
fosstererhi! I deleted  my only primary partition... How can I reclaim a part of it to another Extended partition?00:26
XLVfossterer if you havent written over it, you can recover it whole00:28
odiumhow can I keep firefox's flash stay in fullscreen mode on my other monitor?00:28
fosstererXLV: I'm asking if it is possible to shrink it and use the leftover space into an existing extended partition00:29
odium:(00:30
wilee-nileefossterer, Can you take a screenshot of gparted looking at it and imagebin it?00:32
XLVfossterer yes, you can..use gparted00:32
Dr_Willis_bjrohan: there may be some .file in the users home that has some monitor settings saved.    for my nvidia system its .nvidia-settings-rc i dont have an intel system here to look at00:33
Dr_Willis_odium:  the webupd8 or omgubuntu blog site had tweaks for that exact issue.00:33
wilee-nilee!screenshot | fossterer00:33
ubottufossterer: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.00:33
XLVfossterer if its root partition.. the easy way is to download a live cd like clonezilla00:33
XLVfossterer another option is systemrescuecd, i have used that one, uses gui00:34
SwabbyI'm wanting to network install linux on a old dell that has no cdrom and no usb boot capability.. is there an easy way to do this?00:35
Dr_Willis_Patero-ng:  i ment on  the day of almost every relase (every 6 mo) ive seen 3000 people here. havent paid much attention to it the last few reelases.00:35
Swabbyi have a dual boot win 7 / ubuntu machine.00:35
Dr_Willis_Swabby:  might be easier to pull the hd.  - use a usb enclosuer. install to it.. put it back00:35
wilee-nileeSwabby, are you sure it can even run ubuntu?00:35
Dr_Willis_are you sure it can even do a net boot. ;)00:36
wilee-nileeyeah goota be a no pae's here00:36
Swabbywilee - LOL i'm not sure...it's a latitude C610..google says people have run ubuntu on it with success.00:36
wilee-nileegotta*00:36
Dr_Willis_Swabby:  how old of a release of ubuntu..  newer ubuntu releases need a PAE enabled CPU00:36
wilee-nileeSwabby, There are minimal requirements I would check those, might be an okay server.00:37
Swabbydrwillis - Honestly i need something minimal...i was going to give the machine to my daughter to play some games and use abcmouse.com00:37
fosstererXLV: wilee-nilee: http://imagebin.org/27487700:37
fosstererI am aiming for 4 partitions of 120 GiB each but sda5 and sda6 have important data00:37
wilee-nileefossterer, Having the partitions out of numerical order looking at the image from left to right creates problems.00:39
wilee-nileein making new partitions in general, I would back up those important ones and start over.00:39
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wilee-nileenever delete a partition in general just rebuild it to keep the numerical order, or know that they change when you do.00:40
fosstererwilee-nilee: Is there something you want me to do about numerical ordering?00:41
wilee-nileefossterer, I don;t the partitioner does.00:41
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fosstererwilee-nilee: What to do?00:41
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wilee-nileefossterer, I saw a user on here once who found a way to change the numbers, I don't know how myself, but in order for gparted to work in general the partition numbers go up from left to right in looking at it from front to end of the HD. THe saiest would be to copy and paste the info from the ones you want to an external, amke the new partitions and paste and copy back all with gparted.00:43
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wilee-nileeeasiest for me anyway, others may have netter ideas.00:44
wilee-nileebetter*00:44
Dr_Willis_fossterer:  its a very good idea to backup the data BEFOR you try to resize/repartion... theres always a chance you can lose data on teh hd  if somthing screws up00:44
Dr_Willis_power failure during a resize = bad00:45
SchrodingersScatDr_Willis_: but i don't need the backups until it's too late00:45
Dr_Willis_SchrodingersScat:  backup the backups!00:45
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fosstererPeople, that's about 140 GB of data which I am not going to backup coz I have a backup at a different place00:46
Dr_Willis_fossterer:  delete it then.00:46
fossterercan we move onto just the resizing00:46
wilee-nileeclonezilla would clone them, however the reload has to be the same size partition or bigger is all, and if the nunbers are different adjusted in the save accordingly.00:46
Dr_Willis_will make resizeing much faster/easier00:46
Dr_Willis_fire up gparted and go to town if you are not worried about the data00:46
fosstererDr_Willis_: please... deleting srikes me a joke00:46
wilee-nileeyeah, don;t follow any logic that would be to safe. ;)00:47
Dr_Willis_fossterer:  you just said the data was allready backed up and not  critical00:47
Dr_Willis_you can have 4 primary partions, one of which can  be an extended.. containing logicals.. looks like you got the logicals as the ones to keep.00:48
wilee-nileeAlright Mr. Jones you need a lobotomy, you don;t mind if I use this rusty saw do you.00:48
Dr_Willis_that means you can have 3 primary partions.00:48
Dr_Willis_<sda1> <sda2> <sda3> <sda4(extended <holding <sda5> <sda6>>00:48
fosstererDr_Willis_: ok.. I'll let sda5 & 6 stay Extended.. and move the rest to primary.. can I do that?00:49
Dr_Willis_to get space Out of the extended partion. might take some work. I recall it being doable. but you got to click carefully in gparted.00:49
Dr_Willis_and you may need to resize sda5 and sda6 first. move them to one end of the extended. then shrink the extended.00:50
Dr_Willis_THEn resize the primaries00:50
Dr_Willis_this sound right to anyone else? i tend to use all primaries these days00:50
fosstererDr_Willis_: yeah.. sda5 doesn't get increased.. what could the reason be?00:50
Dr_Willis_i recall needing to click VERY carefully in gparted to be sure to select the right partions.  Not done this in years.00:51
wilee-nileeDr_Willis_, there are  no primaries there http://imagebin.org/27487700:51
LuckySMackhey guys. i was hoping to get some advice. ive used ubuntu server for a while but am setting up a new machine for web app development. i want to see how others have setup their environment for their actual web apps. im not as concerned about the http server as much, as much as I am the management of a staging and production environment.00:51
wilee-nileeoops just sda3 at the end lol00:51
fosstererDr_Willis_: wilee-nilee: The primary used to be  that unallocated 141G...00:52
LuckySMackmore along the lines of how people manage the apps themselves on their webserver between different environments.00:52
Dr_Willis_wilee-nilee:  wow - that image reminds me of why i always use all primaries now.00:52
wilee-nileeDr_Willis_, Yeah, thats a bit messed up easily fixed really.00:52
Dr_Willis_the goal is to move that 38gb all the way to the front?00:53
Visionaary3289i installed LAMP on ubuntu and i cant change anything in /www00:53
Visionaary3289do i lack permissions?00:53
fosstererDr_Willis_: yep, that's one rquirement00:53
Visionaary3289how do i fix this00:53
wilee-nileeI just never delete partitions in the middle of others to keep the numerical flow, or just know if I remove onr between the others above go down one number in an extended00:54
fosstererwilee-nilee: Is there a way to reassign those numbers?00:54
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Dr_Willis_fossterer:  from what i see you would have to move sda6. reboot. (to be sure)   move sda5. move sda9, (all to the right),  untill the 38gb is at the start of the extended partion, then shrink the extended00:55
wilee-nileeI haave 7 partitons right now, 3 primaries the rest in an extended and a swap00:55
wilee-nilee1,2,3 5,6,7,800:55
fosstererDr_Willis_: Mve sda6.. where to?00:56
Dr_Willis_fossterer:  to the right...00:56
Dr_Willis_that puts the unallocated spafce to the left...00:56
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Dr_Willis_you might have to grow and shrink. if gparted cant safely move the data00:56
Dr_Willis_depending on the filesystem and how its setup. gparted cant always do all the move/resize/grow/shrink operations i recall00:57
Dr_Willis_but these all seem to be ext4 - so it should be able to.00:57
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GeoHi, how do I get rid of several defunct processes I have in my ps list?00:57
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wilee-nileeif any are OS"s though I would have suprgrub on hand to get back in.00:57
Dr_Willis_yep - resize/move/shrinking can change the UUID (at times ive seen it happen)  so i would jot down the uuid of each partion befor starting00:58
Dr_Willis_this looks like perhaps a 3 day job. ;)00:58
maxbIf you're going to have that many partitions, perhaps you should consider using GPT, thus avoiding all the mess of primary/extended/logical00:59
Dr_Willis_maxb:  yep ;)00:59
maxbgdisk can convert an existing MBR-based setup to GPT in place01:00
Dr_Willis_maxb:  cant say ive seen that done. :) be a neat trick.  sort of a scary trick sounds like.01:00
Dr_Willis_but it is halloween!01:00
WinstonSmithhi :) my keyboard does not work with newer kernels (for example latest stable which i did compile myself and got from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/). i do however have a keyboard in /proc/bus/input/devices and a keyb device in  /sys/class/input/{event|input} any ideas how i might get closer to the root of the problem?01:02
WinstonSmithah and keyb does not work in X and tty01:03
fosstererDr_Willis_: maxb: This is what I'd do..01:03
fossterer1. Boot from Ubuntu Live USB..01:03
fossterer2. Delete sda9, 8, 701:03
fossterer3. resize 5 &6 to 120 GiB01:03
fossterer4. Finally move the unallocated space to that first Unallocated Space..01:03
FloodBot1fossterer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:03
fosstererIs that feasible?01:03
fosstererFloodBot1: Sorry!01:04
maxbfossterer: I don't understand what you mean in point 4.01:04
maxbWhich of these partitions are currently bootable if any? What bootloader is in use? Is that NTFS partition important?01:05
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fossterermaxb: After resizing sda5 & 6 I'd get a space in Extended part.. right?01:05
Dr_Willis_fossterer:  delete te partions in front of and behind 5 and 6, then grow 5 to the left.. and 6 to the right...01:05
Dr_Willis_that still wont take up the unallocated thats outside the extnede.01:05
Dr_Willis_if you want to do all extended.. then that will make things easier i guess. ;)01:06
fosstererDr_Willis_: I am ok with that too01:06
Dr_Willis_you may want to resize the extended first. so its using the  unallocated space to the left  first.. if you can01:07
fosstererDr_Willis_: I need only this last thing.. "Can I move unallocated space from Extended to Primary? If so how can I do?"01:07
SuperLagI've written a script I'm running as root, and I'm running gsettings to customize the Unity Launcher icons for my normal profile. But I'm guessing it's applying that command to root's profile, and not to my user. Is there a way to call gsettings as root, but apply the action to a regular user?01:08
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Dr_Willis_what primary? it will be sda2 the extended taking up the drive from the start, untill almost the end.01:08
Dr_Willis_you should be able to add that 142gb to sda201:08
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FloodBot1!netsplit01:08
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit01:08
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Dr_Willis_nice thing about gparted.. you can play it and then cancle the changes. ;)   nothing will happen untill you hit apply i recall.01:09
maxbish. flags changes happen immediately IIRC01:09
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WinstonSmithhi :) my keyboard does not work with newer kernels (for example latest stable which i did compile myself and got from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/). i do however have a keyboard in /proc/bus/input/devices and a keyb device in  /sys/class/input/{event|input} any ideas how i might get closer to the root of the problem?01:10
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fosstererDr_Willis_: "add that 142gb to sda2" Confirm me if this just works.. All my questions would have been answered with that01:10
Dr_Willis_fossterer:  it should be doable. if you can get space out of a extenede.. you should be able to put space back in.. its just resizeing the extended01:10
GeoHi, how do I get rid of several defunct processes I have in my ps list?01:11
noname071896anybody know what kind of changes we can expect when ubuntu switches x.org for mir?01:11
Dr_Willis_which is sda2. which has a Key/lock on it in that image.. so you CANT do it with it mounted/inuse01:11
Dr_Willis_noname071896:  other then total chaos and  mass ranting in this channel? :)01:11
noname071896yeah01:11
Dr_Willis_noname071896:  from what i 'hear'  the change shouldbe transparent to most people. if it works properly01:11
noname071896i'm gonna be honest, i'm not going any further than 13.04, and i'm switching to arch as soon as i get it 100% working01:12
Dr_Willis_i imagine the nvidia and ati users will have the hardest time of it all. but thats what Xmir is for.01:12
Dr_Willis_noname071896:  jokes on you.. you NEVER get arch 100% working. ;)01:12
noname071896actually i did01:12
noname071896but i done goofed01:12
noname071896and messed it up01:12
noname071896so now i have to start over01:12
Ari-Yang>never get something 100% working01:12
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Dr_Willis_i broke an arch install once by installing some.. err.. manual/docs packages.. ;) yers ago.. havent tried it sence then.01:13
Ari-Yangbtw this discussion should be chatted in #ubuntu-offtopic01:13
noname071896point taken01:13
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Dr_Willis_ubuntu is focusing on conergance of their phone/tablet/pc - - so thats their design goal. arch has totally differnt goals. so it depends on your needs.01:13
Dr_Willis_convergance01:13
Dr_Willis_'the latest buzz word'01:14
noname071896i think it has something to do with user friendly-ness and expanding their market as well01:14
noname071896their trying to make it more accessible for standard, non tech literate people01:14
Dr_Willis_I honestly think they are just throwing things out there. and seeing what sticks. ;)01:15
wilee-nileehonestly that's about all you can do in most of life. ;)01:17
Dr_Willis_targeting the 'idiot' market - often is not the best idea however ;) no matter how nice you want to be to them.. they just seem to expect things to get dumbed down even more. ;)  but time will tell.01:19
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noname071896targeting the 'idiot' market is exactly why i'm switching to arch, but on a more related topic, how long has everyone been using ubuntu01:21
qinnoname071896: too long, off to sabayon ;)01:22
noname071896sabayon01:22
wilee-nileenoname071896, well arch is perfect for the market. ;)01:22
noname071896sabayon?01:22
noname071896what market?01:22
wilee-nileethere all linux hardly a difference really01:22
dougielhow is the new ubuntu - should I take the plunge? 13.04 now will 13.10 fix my bluetooth woes?01:23
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Dr_Willis_dougiel:  get the live  cd and test it out?01:23
dougielDr_Willis_, good advice01:23
noname071896so like i was saying, how long has everyone been using ubuntu01:23
dougielty01:23
wilee-nileenoname071896, You used the market reference; think about it.01:24
SchrodingersScat!poll | noname07189601:24
ubottunoname071896: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.01:24
dougielDr_Willis_, but it won't bugger my 13.04 will it?01:24
JurassicJonnoname071896, i've been on and off ubuntu for years, but i think i have finally made the full switch now01:24
dougielerr I mean upgradeing Dr_Willis_01:24
Dr_Willis_dougiel:   no idea.01:24
dougiellol01:25
Dr_Willis_dougiel:  upgrades can always carry risk01:25
GeoHi, how do I get rid of several defunct processes I have in my ps list?01:27
Dr_Willis_i dont think you can kill zombie processes... thats why they are called zombies.01:28
Dr_Willis_I think they get 'reaped' every so often. but i cant recall where i read this at.. some techy articals  ages ago i imagine01:28
Dr_Willis_nerdy linux articals and kernel books ages ago. ;)01:29
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wilee-nileethey ndon't eat much more than your brains01:29
fosstererwilee-nilee: maxb: Dr_Willis_: I think I am in a position now to start that work... Thanks for your responses01:30
Geothanks01:33
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iguanohttp://www.theweeklypay.com/index.php?share=19844/01:36
SuperLagArch? BAH.01:37
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PinkSwingI replaced Network-manager with Wicd as my Wifi connection was unreliable. But now Wicd does not appear in the indicator applet in the panel at the top of the screen. I am using Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome Classic. I have added 'Wicd' to the indicator panel whitelist under dconf-editor Unity panel settings but it makes no difference. I also tried setting this to ['All'] but this does not work either. The Wicd icon is also not there in Unity01:40
Dr_Willis_Hmm. Im not clear on why wicd woule make the network conection more reliable. the system is  still using the same wifi drivers01:41
trismPinkSwing: the whitelist is for unity, those things would show up in the Notification Area applet for the panel01:42
Dr_Willis_PinkSwing:  checked askubuntu.com yet on replaceing network manager with wicd? thee may be some tricks/tips there.01:42
trismPinkSwing: assuming it has a status icon01:42
Dr_Willis_Im not sure  how much that whitelist for  the indicator applets is even used any more.01:42
trismyeah it's gone in 13.0401:43
Dr_Willis_i still liked how windowmaker had its dock-applets for things like that. :) let me decide what i wanted to see/keep/rearange.01:44
PinkSwingDr_Willis_: The reason I changed to Wicd is because this post recommended it http://www.techdrivein.com/2012/09/slow-erratic-wifi-ubuntu1204-fixed.html01:44
elliott04Im trying to install Ubuntu on a terrible old netbook I was given. After creating a USB boot drive, the installation fails and drops to an Initramfs prompt. This has happened with both Ubuntu and Mint Mate. Not sure what I am doing wrong.01:44
Dr_Willis_i have like 11 icons in the top right icon list.. which i rarely ever use.01:44
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Dr_Willis_elliott04:  try the boot-repair tool perhaps.01:45
Dr_Willis_!fixgrub | elliott0401:45
ubottuelliott04: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub201:45
PinkSwingtrism: Yes I thought Unity Whitelist was irrelevant for gnome classic but it was worth a try. Wicd doesnt appear in the Notification Area applet for gnome.01:46
PinkSwingDr_Willis_: The main reason I changed to Wicd is that my Wifi connection kept not working and sometimes disconnecting altogether. This has happened on two different routers and my android portable hotspot. Network Manager kept asking for the WPA key again and again even though it had not changed.01:48
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Dr_Willis_does wicd even need to be in the noticication area to work?01:50
Dr_Willis_i thought wicd had a cli-variant also01:50
PinkSwingDr_Willis_: Wicd doesnt need to be in the notification area to work: I can run the client from the menu. I just wanted it a signal strength icon in my panel as I often have problems with internet dropping so being able to just glance at it is handy. Also being able to click on it to change networks was handy too. I wonder if it's more an issue with the wifi driver than the network manager but then lots of people in the forums seem to me01:54
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Guest63466could anyone help me with a problem with etheret on 13.101:54
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PinkSwingIs there an anti spam bot in here? Someone just private messaged me a spam link to a webcam01:56
Guest63466my problem is on a dual boot windows system and my ethernet is not being identified on the ubuntu side01:56
Guest63466there are a few forums about it but i cant seem to get anything to work01:56
haysis anyone else getting the behaviour where they get 400 windows saying their computer is going to go into suspend mode if they leave it alone for a little while?  it looks like something is kicking up this window every so ofthen when the computer is (attempting to?) sleep01:58
PinkSwingGuest63466: When you say the ethernet is not being identified, what do you mean exactly? What is the expected behaviour?01:58
PinkSwingGuest63466: And what is not happening?01:59
Dr_Willis_you mean wifi networking or a wired nic also Guest63466 ?01:59
wrl_Anyone have an idea of how to get the unity dashboard to function?01:59
Dr_Willis_wrl_:  what unity dashboard do you mean?01:59
MonkeyDust3am here, good night01:59
xmetal:) @ swapped my (still good) 15inch screen for a 19 inch LCD someone didn't want02:00
Guest63466so to those answering my etherent question- I can see it attempting a connection but it does not go through. The windows 7 partition has full internet connectivity02:00
Guest63466interestingly I loaded this partition off of a live usb drive, and the live usb boot has internet connectivity just fine02:00
wrl_The icon at the top left on the panel.  If I click on it, I get the page that should show files, applications, and whatever I search for. But on mine nothing happens except that the page opens.02:01
Guest63466Dr.willis i mean wired etherent02:01
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Dr_Willis_wrl_:  make a new user - see if it works for them02:02
PinkSwingGuest63466: Do you mean that when you plug in an ethernet cable, the Network Manager icon just goes round and round for ever but the Wired connection icon doesnt ever show?02:02
Dr_Willis_wrl_:  if a new user works - that points to a user setting issue with the problem user02:02
wrl_Guest63466: What do you see if you open a terminal and type "ifconfig" w/o the quotes of course.02:02
Guest63466yes. it eventually says disconnected after going around and around02:02
Guest63466ok i will attempt to make a new user02:03
Dr_Willis_that was for wrl_  ;)02:03
Guest63466oh02:03
Guest63466ok02:03
wrl_Dr_Willis_:  I already tried that.  Same behaviour.02:03
Guest63466so here is the series, it boots attempts to connect to ethernet, and then says disconnected without ever giving a connection02:04
Dr_Willis_sounds like a bug with the wire nic's chipset drivers    you said you tried some fix's Guest63466 ?02:05
xmetalodd ... awhile back i was at a wifi ap that windows 7 couldn't see (that the AP even was there) ... started a Ubuntu like distro (those who know me know what one) and the AP was detected and connected too just fine02:05
xmetal:) @ ubuntu02:05
Guest63466multiple soureces said it was due to dual booting the system and the windows driver shuts down the lan02:05
Guest63466so i tried a fix in bios and nothing happened02:06
Dr_Willis_Guest63466:  try powering OFF the system. and booting straight to ubuntu,  not a reboot from windows. perhaps02:06
Guest63466I have dr.willis its a partitioned drive02:06
Dr_Willis_ive seen a few weird hard ware devices that windows would put in a mode that linux couldent reset02:06
Guest63466so i am booting directly into ubuntu02:06
CrackerJackquit02:06
Dr_Willis_other then that. no idea. driver bugs can be a pain.02:06
Guest63466also i stress that the USB i loaded this off of has a live partition, and when booting to the partition there IS live etherent02:06
wrl_Guest63466:  That is after actually doing a full shutdown?02:07
elliott04Maybe I dont understand, but that doesnt appear to help me. I have windows 7 installed on the netbook without ubuntu - which has never been installed as of yet. I have made a live usb via unetbootin and changed my bios to boot from it. When I reboot the netbook, I not shown the Ubuntu language select like the wiki shows - instead a blue box with the UNetbootin title, and one option for Default. When selected, a wall of text occurs,02:07
elliott04After that I am left at the Initramfs propt.02:07
Guest63466wrl yes.02:07
wrl_Have you done an ifconfig to see if the device is recognized by the network software?02:08
Guest63466no what would the command be02:08
wrl_In a terminal, type "ifconfig"02:09
xmetali admit i neer worked with Unetbootin ... i make (via windows) boot usbs with a different app02:09
xmetaldang i forgot the name02:09
xmetalwubi ?02:09
xmetalbrb02:10
xmetalYumi is what the exe says02:10
Guest63466ok i did ifconfig and it read as eth102:10
wrl_Guest63466: Also while you'r there type "lsub" to see what kind of ethernet device you have.02:10
xmetal(that sounds like baby-talk.. lol)02:10
PinkSwingGuest63466: wrl_: I think that should be "lsusb" ;-P02:11
xmetal!bootusb02:11
xmetalhmm thats not it02:11
wrl_Guest63466: but it does not show an IP address like the l0 interface does, yes?02:11
xmetal!usb02:11
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent02:12
xmetalwww.pendrivelinux.com i think is the url i was trying to think of02:12
xmetalhttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ yes02:12
elliott04im going to move the ISO over to the netbook from my mac, and try and make the live usb there instead.02:13
elliott04We'll see how that goes.02:14
Guest63466sorry lost connection for a sec02:15
Guest63466im back dr.willis02:15
lotuspsychjemorning to all02:15
Guest63466so 1sub did not work02:15
Dr_Willis_lsusb02:15
Dr_Willis_with an L.02:15
Guest63466oh02:16
wrl_Guest634666:  That is an el not a 102:16
Guest63466ok i have bus 001 deviced oo4, obda:0018202:16
Guest63466realket semiconductor corrp02:17
wrl_Guest63466: It will only show the ethernet device if it is a usb device but in most new hardware it is.  Does it give the brand and chipset?02:17
IamTryinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elS3tdsy2yo  - How to do this in Ubuntu ? What do we call this scree-saver or screen virtual animations??02:17
Guest63466realket 0182 i think is my ethernet02:17
Guest63466realtek*02:17
PinkSwingHow can I check which wifi card I have? I looked in Additional Drivers in the System Settings and apparently I have a proprietary Broadcom STA proprietary driver (tested by the Ubuntu developers it says) activated. However, I don't know exactly which card I have?02:18
wrl_Guest63466: pretty sure that is supported.02:19
wrl_Are you using a DHCP network?02:19
lotuspsychjeIamTrying: seems like its a win screen animation02:19
IamTryinglotuspsychje, YEA - what does it call ? How do i do this in Ubuntu desktop ?02:20
DasEiPinkSwing: iwconfig or hwinfo02:20
Guest63466i believe so i have verizon fios router02:20
DasEi!wireless02:20
Guest63466i think its set to dhcp02:20
PinkSwingI am wondering if I need to use an NDIS wrapper driver instead of the proprietary Broadcom wifi driver. Maybe that would make the connection more reliable. On the other hand, maybe I need to see how it goes with wicd, but it would be nice to have the tray icon back02:20
PinkSwingDasEi: Thanks02:20
lotuspsychjeIamTrying: you can always try it on wine..nut not sure this will work, never seen an alternative like that for ubuntu02:21
lotuspsychje!broadcom | PinkSwing02:21
IamTryinglotuspsychje, OK - what does this functionality calls "NAME" of this feature? so that can be searched in youTube for linux02:22
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:22
iguanohttp://www.theweeklypay.com/index.php?share=19844/02:22
ubottuPinkSwing: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx02:22
iguanohttp://www.theweeklypay.com/index.php?share=19844/02:22
wrl_Guest63466: do you know the pool range for the router?02:22
DasEi!wireless | PinkSwing02:23
ubottuPinkSwing: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:23
Guest63466i have access to the router page but i am inexperienced with it02:23
wrl_Guest63466: what kind of numbers is it assigning?02:23
PinkSwingDasEi: Thanks again. Not sure how I check exactly which Broadcom I have. I have tried hwinfo|grep wireless but that isnt working. Anyway, I need to read those links you sent.02:24
lotuspsychjePinkSwing: lshw -C network02:24
Dr_Willis_lspci or lsusb my also give some info02:24
DasEi.. :)02:24
wrl_Guest63466: What I'm thinking is to give you a command to manually set the interface and see if that works.02:24
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DasEiPinkSwing: yes, this a good step by step guide, and feel free to ask again02:25
Guest63466ok the router pool is set to give increasing numbers like 192.168.1.202:26
wrl_Guest63466: If the router is assigning you numbers like 192.168.1.3 where the "3" might be anything from 2 to 20 then we can just use a number outside of that range.02:26
Guest63466then 192.168.1.3 and so on02:26
Guest63466so i have 8 connections up to 192.168.1.802:26
Guest63466one second i will run lspci02:26
wrl_Guest63466: Give me a few minutes... I'm having some difficulty here.  I'll be back with a command to try in a bit.02:27
Guest63466said ethernet controller RTL8111/8168/841102:28
lotuspsychjeIamTrying: not sure whats it called precisely, maybe browse software centre for animations?02:28
ezioi have an amazon ec2 ubuntu 13.10 .. for some reason every time i run ssh as a user i creatred i get Permission denied (publickey).02:29
ezioeven if i'm trying to ssh out02:29
Guest63466ok i will stand by guys thanks so much for the help02:29
eziolike ssh localhost02:29
Guest63466this is so frustrating because it works on the live usb but not the hard disk install!02:30
IamTryingHow come Ubuntu do not have such stuffs? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elS3tdsy2yo02:30
IamTryingVirtual Pets or calls Screen Virtual pets?02:31
Dr_Willis_a virtual pet screensaver?02:31
lotuspsychjeIamTrying: maybe here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/106624/tools-for-3d-animations-models-skeletons-and-other-animation-techniques02:31
PinkSwingDr_Willis_: DasEi: lotuspsychje: Thanks. My wifi card is a Broadcom 4313 and apparently the proprietary driver is the one recommended. Now I'm just wondering if I should leave the laptop running overnight and check the logs in the morning to see how often the wifi connection has a problem now that I am using Wicd instead of Network Manager. Then I could try the same thing tomorrow with Network-Manager. At least that way I would have mor02:32
IamTryingDr_Willis_, YES02:32
ubukouhey folks, i ve had a nightmare of a day trying to install a new graphics card. i has problems i have never seen before. for starters i can only see the post message for the RAID configuration. I can blindly choose which operating system to boot on grub(ubuntu is a black screen). if i boot into windows, i can only work in 800x600 and in 16 colors. any tips?02:32
lotuspsychjePinkSwing: can you describe what your actual problem is with your wifi connection02:32
ubukoumy psu is 750watts and the GPU is GTX65002:32
ubukoucan it be that i have 9 disks (6 RAID+3 normal)02:33
lotuspsychjeubukou: wich ubuntu version?02:34
Dr_Willis_ubukou:  you did plug the power conector to the video card?02:34
wrl_Guest63466: You don't have 2 ethernet interfaces do you? If not try "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.255 192.168.1.100" and if there are no errors follow with "ifconfig eth0"02:35
ubukouDr_Willis_, lotuspsychje i have. i have used the pci-e connector that is onboard the PSU( not the extra one, the Red.) im running ubuntu 12.1002:35
Guest63466i have a duel boot system with win 7, is that 2 interfaces?02:36
wrl_Guest63466: No it isn't02:36
ubukoudr_willis, i understand that a system needs more amps to start. can it be that the GPU has not enough power to start? i mean 9 disks is not that much02:36
Guest63466in that case just 1 interface02:36
PinkSwingIamTrying: Here are some virtual Pets. Is this what you had in mind? http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/download/ubuntu-virtual-pet-4759738.html             http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38661        but my favourite is http://www.cyberciti.biz/open-source/oneko-app-creates-cute-cat-chasing-around-your-mouse/       which reminds me of xcat we had on Sun workstations at uni 20 years ago02:36
Guest63466so i will try what you said just now02:36
wrl_Guest63466: If you get an error, let me know what it is.02:36
Guest63466ok02:37
Guest63466error after the first command02:37
Guest63466siocsifaddr: operation not permitted02:38
Guest63466eth0: error while getting interface flags: No such device02:38
wrl_Guest63466: Oops... prepend "sudo "02:38
Guest63466reads that twice02:38
Guest63466ok02:38
Guest63466same error02:38
Guest63466with sudo02:38
Guest63466i think my internet is eth102:39
garciancdoes ifconfig -a show eth0?02:39
Guest63466that is what it has been reading02:39
wrl_Guest63466: Hummm, back in a second.02:39
Guest63466ifconfig says eth102:39
SomefellowHey there, does anybody know why "swapon" is throwing me this when I am logged into root? swapon: /swapfile: swapon failed: Operation not permitted02:40
PinkSwinglotuspsychje: For several weeks I have had an intermittent connection. Wifi would randomly disconnect or just suddenly be very slow: typically in the middle of some streaming media like a radio program. Today it's been excruciatingly slow, but changing to wicd seems at first sight to have speeded things up (at least, opening web pages seems to be faster for the last half hour since I installed wicd). So I would like to check that instal02:40
mojtabaHi, I have a calendar in thudnerbird and it was working till last update of the ubuntu. Does anybody know what should I do? It is not working at the moment. Ubuntu 13.1002:40
garciancGuest63466, try the command with eth1 and see if you get the same error02:41
Guest63466ok02:41
mojtabaI have lighting 2.6.1 and provider for google calendar 0.2502:41
wrl_Guest63466: OK try it with changing eth0 to eth1 (and don't forget the sudo like I did).02:41
mojtabaAlso I have installed QuickFox Notes 2.8.1, but it is not working too!!02:41
mojtabaIt seems ubuntu 13.10 is a total mess!02:41
mojtabalots of problems.02:42
Dr_Willis_never heard of quickfox notes02:42
IamTryinghttp://i.imgur.com/Ac7xsvE.png  - Great this is what i mean working  PinkSwing, lotuspsychje , Dr_Willis_02:42
Dr_Willis_!info lighting02:42
ubottuPackage lighting does not exist in saucy02:42
wrl_mojtaba:  I see, I'm not alone!02:42
Guest63466ok wrl that worked02:42
mojtabawrl_: Do you have the same problem?02:42
Dr_Willis_IamTrying:  i dont know what that image is supposed to be showing...02:43
Guest63466and gave and output of a bunch of text with the adresses we put in02:43
wrl_mojtaba: no, mine is that the unity dashboard is dead.02:43
garciancdoes ifconfig show the interface eth1 up?02:43
cipherboyQuestion: ifconfig and conky cannot seem to detect the usage on my eth0 interface. Ideas? dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6309863/  ifconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6309862/    | Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 08)02:43
mojtabaI will stick to the next LTS. :(02:43
mojtabais 14.04 the next LTS?02:44
wrl_Guest63466: OK, you probably don't have a route or any nameservers set up... type "route" and see what you get.02:44
PinkSwingSaucy Salamander? Are they having a laugh?!02:44
Dr_Willis_PinkSwing:  we liked dapper drake better. ;)02:44
Guest63466route gave a bunch of blank fields02:44
Dr_Willis_a Duck with a Top hat is so much cooler.02:44
DasEi1Somefellow: tried it as root/sudo ?02:44
Guest63466like destination gateway genmask02:44
mojtabaDoes anybody know what should I do?02:45
mojtaba:(02:45
SomefellowIt was through root, and yeah nothing changes with sudo02:45
DasEi1!LTS02:45
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)02:45
SomefellowI tried googling it, apparently its an OpenVZ issue02:45
mysterbubblesHow would I set an internal DVD drive to auto mount upon DVD insertion in Ubuntu Server (i.e. headless setup, without gnome)? -- Anyone have any ideas?02:45
Dr_Willis_!info autofs | mysterbubbles02:45
ubottumysterbubbles: autofs (source: autofs): kernel-based automounter for Linux. In component main, is extra. Version 5.0.7-3ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 647 kB, installed size 1491 kB02:45
* genii ponders the TrustyTahr02:45
garciancGuest63466,  does ifconfig show an address for eth1?02:45
Dr_Willis_mysterbubbles:  dident you ask this about 3 hrs ago?02:45
Guest63466wrl route gave me a few blank fields02:46
xmetalmot, i think it is02:46
DasEi1mysterbubbles: you can set this in /etc/fstab02:46
xmetal(14.04 next LTS)02:46
DasEi1!fstab | mysterbubbles02:46
ubottumysterbubbles: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions02:46
LinuxGuy2020I installed ubuntu-server and I have used wpa_supplicant and wpa_passphrase to get wifi working on my headless mini-itx server. I have minidlna running at boot but it throws an error and doesnt start. Im guessing that its starting before the wifi does. But its a complete guess. How can I fix this?02:46
mysterbubblesDr_Willis_: sure did, it was recommended that i look at automount in repos, but i'm not sure what that means. Were you the one to recommend it?02:46
PinkSwingAnd what happens after we get to Xenophobic Xenurine, Yammering Yak, and Zealous Zebra? Do we go back to Arachnophobic Aardvark?02:47
cipherboyAlso, running 3.11.0-12, 13.10.  I know it worked before this latest version of Ubuntu..02:47
LinuxGuy2020minidlna worked fine with the LAN hooked up. But I want to make this mini-itx server headless and wireless.02:47
mysterbubblesDasEi1: I did create an entry in fstab mounting /dev/dvd to /media/cdrom, but that isn't working for me.02:47
Dr_Willis_mysterbubbles:  theres most likely severaal services in the reositories that can do what yopu want.02:47
Dr_Willis_mysterbubbles:  'autofs' seems to be one of them02:47
wrl_Guest63466: try "sudo route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 dev lo"02:47
Dr_Willis_!info automount02:48
ubottuPackage automount does not exist in saucy02:48
mysterbubblesDr_Willis_: is autofs a better option than fstab?02:48
LinuxGuy2020The ftp, transmission, and samba daemons all start just fine. Minidlna is the only one giving me grief.02:48
DasEi1mysterbubbles: set it to auto with the corresponding permissions (and also the /media/cd.. -dir?)02:49
PinkSwingDr_Willis_: I have a fondness for Hardy Heron since that's where I started in Linux. Another bird with a hat on, but this time a bowler!02:49
mysterbubblesDasEi1: this is what I have that isn't working now: "/dev/dvd /media/cdrom auto user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0"02:50
Dr_Willis_mysterbubbles:  you wanted it to mount on insertion automatically.. fstab will not do that02:50
Dr_Willis_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs02:50
mysterbubblesDr_Willis_: gotcha. I'll give that a try, thanks.02:50
DasEi1mysterbubbles: Run Nautilus and open Edit => Preferences > Media. Turn on "Browse media when inserted".02:51
mysterbubblesDasEi1: this is a headless server, no gui available02:51
Guest63466ok wrl trying now02:51
Guest63466command went through02:52
wrl_Guest63466: try "sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1"02:52
Guest63466SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable02:53
nullbyte_why I don't have in right corner shutdown icons clock/date etc.. ?02:54
nullbyte_in Gnome02:54
wrl_Guest63466: Arg! That is your router ip address isn't it?02:54
Guest63466um in my browser i type 192.168.1.102:54
garciancthat's not going to work so well if eth1 is in the 192.168.1 network02:54
DasEi1mysterbubbles: I'm also used to automount, which isn't there no more; pmount might be your friend, but I have to draw back, can't really say, as I haven't used it myself, sry02:55
wrl_Guest63466: Sorry, change the number I gave you to that one and try again.02:55
Guest63466to access my router command browser so it may be 192.168.1.102:55
Guest63466ok trying now02:56
Guest63466same error :(02:56
wrl_Guest63466: What is the address we gave the interface?02:56
garciancI was about to ask that for the 3rd time02:56
Guest63466um the first ip you gave?02:57
wrl_Guest63466: Yes02:57
Guest63466225?02:57
Zeekwireless drivers support02:57
garciancthat's a problem, that is a broadcast address02:57
Guest63466was 196.168.1.22502:58
garciancI would have used sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.100 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.25502:59
wrl_Guest63466: ifconfig should show 192.168.1.100 as the address03:00
Guest63466says this after ifconfig03:00
Guest63466eth1 inte addr:192.168.1.10003:00
Guest63466bcast:192.168.1.25503:00
wrl_garcianc:  I left out the brodcast and netmask as they will default.03:00
Guest63466mask:255.255.255.003:01
wrl_Guest63466: Type "ping -c5 localhost"03:01
Guest63466oing:unknown host localhost-03:01
pogiakohello03:02
DasEi1!hi03:02
Guest63466ping:unkown host localhost-03:02
pogiakohow is 13.10 doing?03:02
wrl_Guest63466: Gads! type "ping -c5 127.0.0.0"03:02
Dr_Willis_Guest63466:  thers no - as far as i know in localhost03:03
Guest63466do you want to ping broadcast? then -b03:03
Guest63466type -b?03:03
wrl_Guest63466: No -c5, you want to go directly to the interface.03:04
Guest63466type -c5?03:04
wrl_Guest63466: that just a count so ping will quit after 5 pings.03:05
wrl_Guest63466: the command is "ping -c5 127.0.0.0"03:05
wrl_Guest63466: I'm sorry... 127.0.0.103:06
Guest63466ok i typed that and it says do you want to ping broadcast then -b03:06
Guest63466oh03:07
jakstarWifi not working in Ubuntu LTS 12.0403:07
Guest63466ok trying with the cahnge03:07
wrl_Guest63466: yeah, the last octet of 0 implies a broadcast03:07
Guest63466ok now it went03:07
Guest634665 packets transmitted03:07
Guest634665 recieved03:07
jakstarwhen I boot it says something not found and something else not found then it says go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers for instructions03:07
wrl_Guest63466: Great. Now try "ping -c5 192.168.1.100"03:08
jakstari dont know what to do on that page03:08
Guest63466ok that went03:08
Guest634665 packets transmitted03:08
jakstarhow do i find out what wireless card i have03:08
pogiakohow is 13.10 doing guys?03:08
wrl_jakstar:  you need to determine what wireless device you have in your computer.03:08
jakstarhow  do i find that?03:09
jakstari ran this lspci -k03:09
mamoitUse hardinfo03:09
jakstarand it gave me this 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Pavilion dv6700 Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30cc Kernel driver in use: i915 Kernel modules: intelfb, i915 0003:10
jakstarwhat does it mean?03:10
pogiakotablet, like iPad03:10
Guest63466wrl that ping worked03:10
pogiakooh sorry wrong send haha03:10
wrl_Guest63466: I'm not so hopeful with this next one but lets try it anyway "ping -c5 8.8.8.8"03:11
mamoit@jakstar just run hardinfo03:11
Guest63466connect: network is unreachable03:12
Psil0Cybinhey guys how can i check if my ubuntu box is encrypted03:12
Psil0Cybini remember there was a command03:12
Psil0Cybini want to make sure my whole machine is encrypted and not just my home directory03:12
jakstari checked in device manager and it says i have this driver installed broadcom 802.11b g03:13
wrl_Guest63466: Yeah, let me take a look at the route commands again to see if maybe I messed it up.  You have more than one machine on your LAN?03:13
Guest63466no03:13
lanlingkingirc聊天的内容03:13
Guest63466just the 1 and everything else is wireless03:13
wrl_Guest63466: Its the same LAN though isn't it?03:13
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: youn simply look at sudo fdisk -l and see the partition-types03:15
Guest63466yes same router03:15
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: and oc /boot is always plain, on a LUKS-system03:15
wrl_Guest63466: What is the IP of the machine that you are using now?03:15
Psil0CybinDasEi1: what would it look like if its encrypted?03:16
Guest63466192.168.1.303:16
jakstarcan someone help me to determine what my wifi adapter is????03:16
Psil0Cybincan i post it on a pastebin?03:16
Dr_Willis_jakstar:  'lspci' and 'lsusb' should give a clue as its chipset.03:16
wrl_Guest63466: OK, remember that, I'll be right back.03:16
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: sec, I do a pastie03:16
Guest63466ok03:16
Psil0CybinDasEi1: http://pastebin.com/9NZr02NL here is the paste, keep in mind i have a windows7 partition as well on this computer03:18
Psil0Cybin40 something gb ubuntu install03:18
Psil0CybinDasEi1: if it is not encrypted what can i do to encrypt my whole computer03:19
wrl_Guest63466: try "sudo route add -net 192.160.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0  eth0"03:20
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: looking now, similar to this (fake numbers in this example) http://pastebin.com/ASVBLguH03:20
PinkSwingI found how to check the log for Network Manager:        grep -i networkmanager /var/log/syslog            I tried the same for wicd:     grep -i wicd /var/log/syslog     but that doesnt show much of interest. You can see both at http://pastebin.com/Y9VRpUpL        Anyone know how I would check the log for wicd?03:20
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: Is the win on the same hd ?03:20
Psil0Cybinokay03:20
Psil0CybinDasEi1: yes03:20
Psil0CybinDasEi1: looking at what you stated it doesnt look like its encrypted03:20
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: using uefi or mbr boot ?03:20
Psil0Cybini dont know03:21
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: which you installed first, win or ubuntu ?03:21
Psil0Cybinwin03:21
Psil0Cybinwin came with the machine03:21
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: newer motherboard ?03:21
Psil0Cybinim waiting till i want to format to remove it and do a full out xubuntu install03:21
Psil0Cybinum its an acer aspire one d270-162803:22
Psil0Cybini remember someone helpd me before with a command that encrypted it03:22
Psil0Cybinbut that was on my other comp i forget the command03:22
geniiDasEi1: I have that same Acer, it doesn't have UEFI03:25
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: see, the problem is the bootloader, UEFI also uses something similar to a /boot, and the initiation of the en/decryption-process always starts in Plain. If you want a dualboot with whole disk encryption 1.install win /w truecrypt 2.install xubuntu /w Luks  3./make the truecrypt loader handle over to xubuntu's grub, when wanted;; ah no uefi is ('lil) less complicated, but same food03:26
Psil0Cybinohhhh so i have a problem because im dual booted?03:26
Psil0Cybini am confused03:26
Psil0Cybini just want to encrypt the ubuntu partition03:26
Psil0Cybini was thinking of using gparted to remove the windows partition and make ubuntu larger, but people said its not recommended.03:27
emperorspanish03:27
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: just the ubu ? then 1.)win  (leave space on hd!) then xubu/grub, it will pic up the win to it's menu03:27
DasEi1!dualboot03:27
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot03:27
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geniiemperor: /join #ubuntu-es03:28
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Psil0Cybinwhat DasEi1 sorry I am confused...sorry i remember there being a command that used cryptsomething not truecrypt but someting that comes with ubuntu03:28
Psil0Cybinto encrypt all my files03:28
Psil0Cybini did it on my HP but it was only a Ubuntu laptop03:28
emperorgenii DasEil  Thanks !!03:29
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: you COULD fully encrypt an existing ubuntu-installation, but that's painfull, better do a fresh install and use the installers options , so all that lvm-tuff is done for you03:30
Nautilusis www-data a user, a group, or maybe both?03:30
DasEi1stuff*03:30
ubuntu-studiohelo03:30
Dr_Willis_Nautilus:  i think its both. its a special user.03:30
DasEi1Nautilus: try users and groups on it03:31
geniiNautilus: It's the user and group which webserver runs under03:31
Psil0CybinDasEi1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto3 it suggests that you can mount using cryptsetup03:31
genii( usually uid 33)03:31
Psil0Cybini mean you can encrypt using cryptsetup03:32
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: you COULD fully encrypt an existing ubuntu-installation, but that's painfull, better do a fresh install and use the installers options , so all that lvm-stuff is done, else have to shavel around all your data, lot's of manual config... can't recommend it03:32
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Psil0Cybinokay okay03:32
Psil0CybinDasEi1: so thats what ill do sometime this week i suppose.03:32
Nautilusok, thanks all, think I have it now03:33
Psil0Cybinbecasue its a pain in the neck to reformat already03:33
Psil0Cybini got everything customized the way i wanted.03:33
EmpEroRGood evening, I use Kubuntu 13.10, 32 bit Dual Core 4gb ddr2 ram Nvidia GT210 1gb ddr3 asus, but still can not get the effects enabled. I install the proprietary drivers, you need some special command???03:33
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: the installers are pretty friendly, see if there is an alternate version maybe, or use an expert install, if the regular installer isn't fine grained enough, netboot also a choice, if available03:34
nielfor a minecraft server what type of server should it be?03:34
nielubuntu server edition wants me to choose03:34
Psil0CybinDasEi1: well if i use the default encryption method, will that just encrypt my home directory or the whole partition?03:34
Psil0Cybini want to encrypt swap and everything03:34
Psil0Cybinor do i have to advance specify03:35
guest_____Question ---> I am in a forum.  When it says to comment a line in a certain text file, what does 'commenting' mean?03:35
nielanyone o.o03:35
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wilee-nileeguest_____, context please=link03:35
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Dr_Willis_guest_____:    #this is a comment - it starts with #03:36
Dr_Willis_guest_____:   echo hello  this is not commented....03:37
Dr_Willis_guest_____:  #echo this is a comment.. it will get ignored...03:37
guest_____wilee-nilee, what doe you mean by "context pelase=link"??03:37
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: all Parti's, but /boot by default03:37
Dr_Willis_guest_____:  what config file are you editing exactly?03:37
wilee-nileehopefully, generally yes, we guess the forum is following the rules03:37
DasEi1huh, you could get the settings of /etc and a package list to use it back, but that has a good risk of trouble as packets changed, other window-makers are used and so on, packaelist is fine, so you can get all your setup back, thus still have to configure it again < the safer way   , Psil0Cybin03:37
DasEi1!clone03:38
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this may cause problems with multiarch before 12.10) - See also !automate03:38
wilee-nileeguest_____, Do you know the definition of context?03:38
fraudhey everyone, ok so there is a little desktop settings app in older versions of mint and ubuntu that allows you to view or not view different folders on the desktop without deleting or modifying them, like trash computer and home folders.  Does anyone know the name of this little app and if so it should be available on the ubuntu packages site, yes?03:38
DasEi1!pm | Psil0Cybin , please stay here03:38
ubottuPsil0Cybin , please stay here: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.03:38
wilee-nileeguest_____, In other words when where and how is the term used a link would help/03:38
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: so, say again ?03:39
Psil0Cybinorry confusedm going to reformat, but i want to keep my settings can i create an image of my install with my themes, settings, fonts, etc?03:39
Psil0Cybinso i can format and keep everything the same03:39
Psil0Cybinnot my home files but the settings i changed etc03:39
guest_____Link --> http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=130309 Fifth paragraph down.03:40
Rogue-3Psil0Cybin: it seems relevent to ask why you are reformatting in the first place?03:40
Psil0Cybinin order to encrypt my whole computer Rogue-303:40
Psil0Cybinlike the whole ubuntu partition03:40
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: no, you can either just encrypt home, but thats another method than LUKS, whole disk is LUKS (cryptsetup)03:40
frauddoes anyone know the name of the little app that can show or hide the computer/home/trash folders on the desktop?03:40
Psil0Cybinokay but i want whole disk03:41
Psil0Cybinencryption03:41
Psil0Cybinhow would i dothat then?03:41
guest_____I am running Ubuntu 12.04 and trying to fix the cdrom tray ejection issue.03:41
Rogue-3Psil0Cybin: gotcha, well if you have extra storage somewhere you could just back up your entire filesystem and then restore it after reformatting03:41
DasEi1LUKS by installer, as told above, Psil0Cybin03:41
Psil0CybinOh okay so by DEFAULT it encrypts my whole disk03:41
Psil0Cybinright?03:41
moppyguest_____, dr wills was right; 'comment it' means put a '#' at the start of the line, so that the computer does NOT execute it03:41
wilee-nileeguest_____, If I read correctly post #8 it is a remove the #03:42
Psil0CybinRogue-3: how do i backup my whole filesystem so that i can keep all my themes and settings changes for all my apps, so it will be like i never formatted03:42
wilee-nileerather than add it03:42
Psil0Cybinother then im missing files03:42
Psil0Cybinand applications03:42
wilee-nilee# is a block03:42
Psil0CybinDasEi1: so by default it encrypts my whole disk? sorry wnat to confirm03:42
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: option whole disk-e with lvm in the installer you mussn't choose, as that'll kill win, set up an lvm > use as > and so on03:43
wilee-nileeguest_____, Actually it is # that line and change it to another sorry.03:43
Rogue-3Psil0Cybin: personally I'd use rsync but tar or even cp could produce the same end result03:43
DasEi1Rogue-3: ??03:44
Rogue-3DasEi1: talking about how to back up his existing system before reformatting the drive to enable the encryption03:44
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: after win being installed, you don't want whole disk for ubu, right ?03:45
guest_____Inside the rules.d file in my Ubuntu install, there is no #.  Should I add it then to tell the computer NOT to execute the line?03:45
DasEi1Rogue-3: ah , I see03:45
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DasEi1still in setup :)03:45
wilee-nileeguest_____, That's what the link is saying, whether doing it is your decision, we have to assume it is correct.03:46
guest_____Wait, wrong file.  It is 60-cdrom_id.rules03:46
Psil0Cybinwait wait guys lets back up a minute, if im formatting yes i want to remove windows.. i want Ubuntu to be the only operating system and i want it fully encrypted so i cannot see a single thing with a liveCD03:46
Psil0Cybinhow would i go about that03:46
Psil0Cybini want to start with creating an image or backup of all my system info so i can keep all my themes and application settings03:46
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DasEi1Psil0Cybin: righty, then use installers option whole... with lvm, all will be set so03:47
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Psil0Cybinso that should be all in the GUI right DasEi1 ?03:47
DasEi1yupp03:47
Psil0Cybinor do i type in advanced commands03:47
Psil0Cybinokay03:47
Psil0Cybinperfect! :)03:47
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Psil0Cybinokay now03:47
Psil0Cybinnext question03:47
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Psil0Cybinhow can i create an image of my settings03:48
wilee-nileeguest_____, adding the # is what tells the computer not to execute.03:48
Psil0Cybinso i can reformat using all my themes/etc03:48
Psil0Cybinso i have my desktop back jut missing my files03:48
Rogue-3Psil0Cybin: do you have a network/external hdd you can back up to?03:48
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: to the settings all is said above, and to backup I either use rsync for my /home on a secondary drive, or, if 2nd drive is big enough clone it by dd03:48
Psil0Cybinmy second drive is 500gbs its big enough03:49
Psil0Cybinoh wait03:49
Psil0Cybini guess id need to boot from it right03:49
Psil0Cybinif i clone it how many gbs would it be?03:49
Psil0Cybinwould it clone all my home files?03:49
Dr_Willis_Psil0Cybin:  use dd or clonezilla to image the entire hd would be one way03:49
Psil0Cybinclonezilla03:49
Psil0Cybinkk03:49
Psil0Cybinthats it03:49
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:49
Dr_Willis_No idea how encrypted stuff affects those tools.03:50
Psil0Cybinnono encrypting after03:50
Rogue-3Psil0Cybin: you can clone pretty much everything on a linux system while it is up and running (though it helps to stop as many services as possible)03:50
Psil0Cybinusing clonezilla to get my settings03:50
Psil0Cybinokay Rogue-3 thanks and wierd tho guys on my HP i was able to use cryptsetup to encrypt my partition without formatting :P thats why i was confused with all this03:50
Psil0Cybini just forgot what i did03:50
Psil0Cybini remember restarting and seeing a list of every single file03:51
Psil0Cybinbeing encrypted03:51
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: I'd just replicate the packages and have my /home (or if other data-dirs where created, them, too) and go by hand, else one should have some debugging skills handy03:51
Psil0Cybinsomeone here helped me do it >.<03:51
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: COULD, but hen you really do a footwalk on the highway... I'm not up to it03:52
guest_____I understand.  Thanks.03:52
fraudSOMEONE- there is a little app that allows you to show or hide your desktop folders (computer/home/trash). Does anyone know the name of it?03:52
Psil0CybinDasEi1: there is no easy way eh?03:52
DasEi1!info cryptsetup03:52
Psil0Cybini wish i remembered what i did03:52
ubottucryptsetup (source: cryptsetup): disk encryption support - startup scripts. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.4.3-4ubuntu4 (saucy), package size 82 kB, installed size 314 kB (Only available for linux-any)03:52
DasEi1!lvm03:53
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto03:53
DasEi1!info rsync03:53
ubottursync (source: rsync): fast, versatile, remote (and local) file-copying tool. In component main, is standard. Version 3.0.9-4ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 290 kB, installed size 620 kB03:53
DasEi1!info gparted03:54
ubottugparted (source: gparted): GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.16.1-1 (saucy), package size 517 kB, installed size 1816 kB03:54
DasEi1shall I keep on ?03:54
sophie_If a filesystem isn't hierarchical, does it mean that you can't have a directory within a directory?03:54
DasEi1sophie_: yupp03:55
Dr_Willis_dateing back to C64 days? ;)03:55
DasEi1hehe03:55
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Psil0Cybinalright DasEi1 i see its alot of work03:55
Dr_Willis_I recall  when the HD floppy drive came out for the C64/128 - it had a way to make directories. but it was sort of a gimmic. ;P03:55
sophie_So does that mean you'd have one set of folders with files in them, or does it mean you'd just have one long list of files?03:55
Psil0Cybinhmmm odd tho, i dont get it maybe it was easier before becasue i only had the partitions i needed for ubuntu03:56
Dr_Willis_sophie_:  one looooooooooooooooooong list.03:56
Psil0Cybinor what it was03:56
sophie_Dr_Willis_, that sounds like hell03:56
Dr_Willis_sophie_:  are you doing homework or somthing?03:56
sophie_I was just watching a video on filesystems03:56
Dr_Willis_sophie_:  in the C64 days  a  2mb floppy disk was amazeing...03:56
Psil0CybinDasEi1: if i had only the partitions i needed for ubuntu would it be easier to encrypt my whole partition via the terminal?03:56
Psil0Cybini just am confused how i did it before03:56
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: even I played around a lot, I'd use an expert cd, instead of shuffling and calculating and configurin and repartioning all that ...muharrr03:57
Psil0Cybini remember just running one command, typing in a password and restarting the machine and as i did that it listed every file one by one03:57
Psil0Cybinstating it was being encrypted with cryptsetup03:57
Psil0Cybinyea eh03:57
Psil0CybinDasEi1: so what is the best way to back up all my themes/icons/changes that i did to the file system like within the /etc/ folder03:58
Psil0Cybinso that i can make sure everything is the same after i format03:58
Psil0Cybinsomeone said clonezilla, but i dunno if thats user friendly03:58
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: prbly just /home  and enough free disk space03:58
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: see above, and scroll back, it's all said in my eyes; don't confuse myself, better have a second link to here when actually doing it03:59
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: err,  don't confuse yourself, I wanted to say (am I confused??)04:00
Psil0Cybinokay DasEi1 would it be possible to encrypt my home directory?04:02
Psil0Cybinso i dont have to format untill i am ready04:02
fraudhow do you hide your desktop folders?04:02
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: get your data from both, win&ubu to an external, replicate your packages, do a fresh whd-installation any config by hand fitting new environment04:02
Psil0CybinDasEi1: I remember doing it by creating a new homedirectory encrypting it, deleting old one, copying the encrypted one over04:02
Psil0Cybinah lets take it back a step DasEi1 how can i see if my home directory is encrypted, if not, could you help me encrypt it?04:03
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: yesss....https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome , few ways to do it; got your fdisk -l pastie again ?04:04
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jackstarhow can i install a wifi driver firmware?04:05
Dr_Willis_if the whole disk is encrypted.. why have home encrypted?04:05
Psil0CybinAH WALLA DasEi104:05
Psil0Cybinthis is the guide i used04:05
Psil0Cybinhttp://www.howtogeek.com/116032/04:05
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:05
Psil0Cybini encrypted my home directory last time, thats what happend04:05
Dr_Willis_jackstar:  you copy the files  to the right directory and the driver module loads them. the addational-driver tool normally handles all this04:05
Dr_Willis_ive seen way to many users sort of lock themselfs out of their own systems by useing encrypted homes and disks Psil0Cybin .04:06
Dr_Willis_Psil0Cybin:  so be sure to have Non encrypted backups somewhere.04:06
Psil0Cybinhow does that happen Dr_Willis_04:06
Psil0Cybinusually04:06
Psil0Cybinso i can learn from mistakes04:06
Dr_Willis_Psil0Cybin:  no idea. I dont use encryption.04:07
Dr_Willis_#1 cause is they dont understand how encryption works..  is my guess.04:07
Dr_Willis_so they do somthing stupid.04:07
Psil0Cybinmakes sense04:07
Psil0Cybinokay Dr_Willis_ is there a command i can run before i do this to see if my home directory is already encrypted04:07
Psil0Cybinfdisk would only tell me right?04:07
wilee-nileesomething stupid, represented here, no way. ;)04:08
DasEi1Psil0Cybin: pastie ?04:08
Psil0CybinDasEi1 Dr_Willis_ : Does this tell me if my home directory is encrypted04:09
Psil0Cybinhttp://pastebin.com/jXBRfZmy04:09
wilee-nileeI just tried to have gnome 3.8 running in 12.04 and messed up the whole install, I fixed it but still have no ubuntu-desktop, doh04:09
wilee-nileeI has the shell though04:10
jackstar[09:07] <jackstar> So this is what I have found out so far.. When I boot I get a prompt to install the correct driver firmware for b43 (broadcom) [09:08] <jackstar> I know that my wifi adapter is BCM4312 and it needs b43 driver firmware [09:08] <jackstar> how do i go about installing this driver firmware?04:11
guest_____I need help in figuring out why my cdrom/dvd will not eject when issuing said command in terminal.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6310122/04:12
DasEi1brb04:12
Dr_Willis_wilee-nilee:  ppa-purge the ppa you used for the gnome install. and reinstall ubuntu-desktop perhaps04:13
Dr_Willis_wilee-nilee:  i recall ages ago people always trying the 3.8 repos and breaking their 12.04 setups. :)04:13
wilee-nileeguest_____,  try eject /dev/sr004:13
Dr_Willis_ive noticed that i dont get a link from /dev/dvd  to /dev/sr0 any more also.. not sure why thats going on04:14
Dr_Willis_it sure confuses a lot of apps.04:14
guest_____"Unable to find or open device"04:16
DasEiPsil0Cybin: any more questions ? another way : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedHomeFolder  or another, use a truecrypt container which automounts at startup | getting tired here, fetching coffe04:16
wilee-nileeDr_Willis_, Heh, I did the deed and lost firefox as well, and did not follow my own preaching on processes in order and deleted the ppa's from the sources.list.d and then ran the ppa-purge on two ppa's, I have gnome 3.4 back no biggie and never use the ubuntu dektop anyway, had to install lubuntu in the process to get another desktop, this was kinda fun, lol. Oh and tried to reload a clonezilla image04:17
wilee-nilee that was from a bigger partition and bricked 12.04 would not read and had to fsck it.04:17
wilee-nileeI'm such a noob04:17
wilee-nileefeels like a 12 step deceleration04:18
SPEEDWAVEHI TO ALL04:18
Psil0CybinDasEi: i dont remember if i set this install to encrypt my home directory already from install can i confirm somehow via a command04:18
Psil0Cybinif my home directory is encrypted04:18
DasEi!info pastebinit04:19
ubottupastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3-4ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 15 kB, installed size 172 kB04:19
wilee-nileedeclaration*04:19
Psil0CybinDasEi: it says Check with ls -A /home. There should be a .ecryptfs folder, if you have encryption of your home folder.04:19
Vivekanandahi everyone04:19
Psil0Cybini see the .ecryptfs file there04:19
Vivekanandacan I create a live usb with two oses ?04:19
Psil0Cybindoes that make sense http://askubuntu.com/questions/146511/how-to-check-if-your-home-folder-and-swap-partition-are-encrypted-using-terminal04:19
hedgehog35Hi, beginner here and wondering if anyone has had success using PHP+Sqlite3 on ubuntu?  I can't get it to work and its driving me nuts04:19
DasEiPsil0Cybin: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l > pastebinit ,then give the output here04:20
wilee-nileeVivekananda, Full installs or ISO's yes, separate partitions for full installs04:20
guest_____I wish the eject command via terminal worked as intended.    :-(04:20
Vivekanandawilee-nilee: not full install I just need to create a live usb I can use to install two oses on a computer04:21
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Vivekanandaone is ubuntu the other win xp04:21
Psil0CybinDasEi: do i need to install pastebinit, did the paste i provided u with not help?04:21
Vivekanandaalso when I use it format a system how do I choose a system to install ?04:21
wilee-nileeVivekananda, The xp probably will not run that way for long, and I believe against the MS law, lol04:21
DasEiPsil0Cybin: just saw that it might not work by pastebinit, do a manual paste of the output then04:22
wilee-nileeif xp runs at all04:22
wilee-nileeVivekananda, There is a W8 setup made top run from a usb.04:22
wilee-nileeto*04:22
Psil0CybinDasEi: http://pastebin.com/jXBRfZmy  is the output of sudo fdisk -l04:23
Vivekanandawilee-nilee: if I just tried to install two ubuntu how would I do it ?04:23
Vivekanandahow would I choose which one to "try" or " install " ?04:24
wilee-nileeVivekananda, ISO's not full installs right with all of this?04:24
rannger643 testing04:24
rannger643 testing04:24
rannger643 testing04:24
FloodBot1rannger643: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:24
DasEirannger: pong04:24
rannger?04:25
Vivekanandawilee-nilee: I dont know the difference but I am trying to create a live cd that can be used to install the os on a computer or04:25
Vivekanandatry it out from the usb if need be04:25
Psil0CybinDasEi: did you see the output http://pastebin.com/jXBRfZmy ?04:25
Vivekanandalive usb*04:25
DasEiPsil0Cybin:  This paste has been removed!  have another try...04:26
Psil0CybinDasEi: http://pastebin.com/YncxBbSJ04:27
Psil0Cybinaskuubntu says you can check if its encrypted using ls -A /home can u confirm04:27
Psil0Cybinif this works?04:27
wilee-nileeVivekananda, ISO would be for install, live is linux only, I use the multisystem app at pendrive linux for multiple iso's on a stick. XP is a whole other thing however, and really a waste of time to use anyway it is eol in less than 6 months, but it can be put on a usb for installs.04:27
Dr_Willis_I add iso files to my /boot/grml/  directory and the grml tools add entries to my grub menu to boot the iso files. ;) i can do a very fast reinstall that way.04:28
wilee-nileeVivek, you would have to have a XP with sp3 to even have it update04:28
DasEiPsil0Cybin: this isn't the full output, but your swap is crypted, so I guess you drive WHD alrady... full output please ? (a clear cleans your terminal beforehand)04:29
wilee-nileeviva grml yeah, and grub iso boots04:29
wilee-nileeVivekananda, you would have to have a XP with sp3 to even have it update. sorry Vivek04:30
Vivekanandawilee-nilee: I like xp as it needs less resources and also less space04:30
Vivekanandawin7 needs more ram and is bloated kind of04:30
Vivekanandaso I dont want it04:30
defaultI hardly ever play dvds but recently bought one and can't seem to get it past the encryption..  using 12.04 LTS, long ago installed ubuntu-retricted-extras and libdvdread4..  ran that script to installs css2...   no luck .  rebooted..  no luck.   any ideas?04:30
wilee-nileeVivekananda, XP is a sieve for viri, rootkits and malware04:30
wilee-nileeand just about eol=end of life04:31
Vivekanandawilee-nilee: and you mean to say that win 7 is not ?04:31
wilee-nileeway less for sure04:31
Psil0Cybinkk04:31
Vivekanandawilee-nilee: I dont care much about eols and I did not wish to change04:31
Vivekanandaeven ubuntu last lts but only when apps stopped working that I had to. Although I like the new ubuntu but it also needs more ram04:32
DasEiVivekananda: EOF /w XP is April 2014 ....04:32
* wilee-nilee notes that Vivekananda " did not wish to change"04:32
Psil0CybinDasEi: here is the output04:32
Psil0Cybinhttp://pastebin.com/wMhthdJs04:32
Psil0Cybini cleared the screen and did sudo fdisk -l04:32
Psil0Cybinits the same result tho DasEi04:32
wilee-nileenice helping you good luck.04:32
DasEiPsil0Cybin: sure, did you scroll the terminal ? then ONLY swap is crypted,   rofl04:33
Vivekanandawilee-nilee: did you get the last part of that ?  I meant that reinstalling a new os for kicks is not ever my wish. I would rather use and old and tested one and use it for my work04:33
Vivekanandaor should I go with win 7 64 bit ?04:36
VivekanandaI dont want to do it04:36
defaultI hardly ever play dvds but recently bought one and can't seem to get it past the encryption..  using 12.04 LTS, long ago installed ubuntu-retricted-extras and libdvdread4..  ran that script to installs css2...   no luck playing dvd .  rebooted..  no luck again.   any ideas?04:36
Vivekanandait has compatibility issues04:36
wilee-nileedefault, try installing vlc04:37
wilee-nileeand using it04:37
DasEiVivekananda: maybe ask such in #windows  ?04:37
DasEiPsil0Cybin: any more questions ? another way : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedHomeFolder  or another, use a truecrypt container which automounts at startup04:38
Psil0CybinDasEi: thats wierd u said only swap is encrypted04:39
Psil0Cybinso would it state if my home is encrypted via sudo fdisk -l?04:39
Psil0Cybini am confused how only swap can be encrypted?04:39
Dr_Willis_default:  this is a just reelased dvd movie?04:41
DasEiPsil0Cybin: if that IS the whole fdisk -l, that's the fact04:42
Psil0Cybinokay04:42
nerderhello04:42
Psil0CybinDasEi: so now i have a problem if my swap is encrypted but my home is not and i follow these directions04:43
Psil0Cybinhttp://www.howtogeek.com/116032/04:43
DasEiPsil0Cybin: you can encrypt anything but /boot by the LUKS way04:43
Psil0Cybinwhat do i do when it asks me to encrypt swap04:43
Psil0Cybinagain04:43
rick_deckardgreetings04:43
DasEiPsil0Cybin: do a fresh whole disk e, see above, all is fine04:43
nerderi'm using terminator, i made my own layout, and when i launch terminator works fine, but whem i split the windows the profile that it use is the default one04:43
nerderhow can i configure terminator for using my profile first?04:44
Psil0Cybinwhat do u mean by this04:44
Psil0Cybin<DasEi> Psil0Cybin: do a fresh whole disk e, see above, all is fine04:44
Psil0Cybinwhole disk e?04:44
rick_deckardhow do I get rid of ubuntu one? I tried uninstalling it through the software center04:44
Dr_Willis_nerder:  well looking here.. you define what profile to use in the layout settings04:44
c__how do i check the md5sum of iso?04:44
Dr_Willis_!md5sum | c__04:45
ubottuc__: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows04:45
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Psil0CybinDasEi: so what do i do if my swap is encrypted but i want to encrypt my home directory and it says to encrypt my swap04:45
Psil0Cybindo i encrypt it again or no04:46
defaultdr willis: nope.  I have two cd's one I recently bought that was released a couple years ago, and another that I have had for about 10 years and always worked fine before.  But last time I played a dvd was back when medibuntu existed.  I only just learned tonight that it is no longer04:46
rick_deckardhow do I uninstall ubuntu one?04:46
cfhowlettrick_deckard, just don't use it?  no need to uninstall if you don't set it up/activate it.04:46
DasEiPsil0Cybin: do a fresh whole disk e, see above, all is fine04:46
Dr_Willis_default:  ive not needed medibintu to play dvd's in.. years ;)04:46
Psil0Cybinfresh whole disk e?04:47
Dr_Willis_default:  i have encountered new dvd movies that have some sort of 'enhanced' protection that are often impossible to read in a pc or older dvd player. :( without some effort/extra software04:47
rick_deckardcfhowlett, you have a very good point. I am annoid at the cloud in the panel tho04:47
Psil0CybinDasEi: i ran sudo fdisk -l on my other machine that was also encrypted home directory via the INSTALL GUI, and it states the same thing only Swap is encrypted04:47
Psil0Cybin...04:47
rick_deckardmocking me04:47
Psil0Cybinbut i encrypted that one using the migreating home folder method04:47
rick_deckardthe lil ubuntu one cloud mocks me04:48
cfhowlettrick_deckard, best response to mockery it to ignore it.04:48
roscogrueni just got a pm from natti about going to a url.  what is up?04:48
nerderDr_Willis_, i dnt get it sorry04:48
default<Dr_Willis_:  it has been years...  ;/04:49
cfhowlettroscogruen, ask natti04:49
HempathyHi guys I'm looking for display help, cool to ask questions here?04:49
Dr_Willis_nerder:  never used the feature either. not sure what you mean really.. if you edit the default profile - it uses that one by default04:49
DasEiPsil0Cybin: might it be that you used private folder but not lux ?04:49
nerderi setted up my profile, but there's no option for keep as default04:49
cfhowlettHempathy, yes.  as04:49
cfhowlett*ask*04:50
Psil0CybinDasEi: i used the GUI from the install04:50
Psil0Cybinwhen i installed the system04:50
Psil0Cybinit asked me if i wnated to encrypt the home directory and i selected yes04:50
nerderDr_Willis_, there's no way for change the default one?04:50
Psil0Cybinbut ur telling me that only my swap is encrypted.04:50
Dr_Willis_nerder:  edit the one named default, or delete it.04:50
HempathySweet, started using dual monitor with HDMI & 13.04 shuts down after ~5 mins or so, any ideas?04:50
nerderi mean which one is the default?04:50
Dr_Willis_nerder:  the one named 'default'04:51
Dr_Willis_which is the only one you cant delete. ;)04:51
nerderDr_Willis_, ok got it ;) some confusion with "dafault" as a word and "default" as a name of profile ;)04:51
nerderthx ;)04:51
Dr_Willis_nerder:  now i have NO idea what 'layouts' do in terminator.04:51
roscogruenDr_Willis_: do i type "!md5sum"04:52
Dr_Willis_nerder:  im guessing theres some terminator command line options to use difent layouts and profiles also04:52
roscogruenthe commands in the links the bot gave me ain't workin'04:52
Dr_Willis_roscogruen:  you READ what the bot said when we activated the !md5sum bot trigger04:52
Dr_Willis_roscogruen:  what commands did you use exactly and whats the esact error message04:52
roscogruenubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~$ cd Downloads04:53
Psil0CybinDasEi: i think ur wrong, i think its encrypted not just the swap. I ran a live CD and tried to access my home folder and it said Access Denied. but every other folder i can access04:54
HempathyAm I ok repeating my question, don't wanna spam, but had no luck finding an answer?04:54
Dr_Willis_Psil0Cybin:  normal permissions will give you denied.04:54
Psil0Cybinanyone else know any other methods i can use to confirm my ome directory is infact encrypted04:54
Dr_Willis_Psil0Cybin:  access it as root.04:54
Dr_Willis_and look at the files in the directory04:54
Psil0Cybinso root into it?04:54
cfhowlett!patience|Hempathy,   understood and thank you.04:54
ubottuHempathy,   understood and thank you.: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/04:54
roscogruenk.  that was for winders04:54
Psil0Cybinlike sudo cd folder?04:54
roscogruenno it wasn't.04:55
Dr_Willis_Psil0Cybin:  no.... sudo ls -l /path/to./the/dir04:55
DasEiPsil0Cybin: that also let's you choose on some discs; did you run the live as root ? I think it is all said and will only get more confusing now...04:55
HempathyThanks guys :)04:55
DasEiHempathy: all half hour or so, sure04:55
DasEiHempathy: sometimes re-phrasing helps, too04:56
roscogruenDr_Willis_: i don't understand what is in the commands (ex:  downloads).  the file is "ubuntu.iso" on my desktop.  terminal is in home directory04:56
Dr_Willis_nerder:  you could make a launcher for terminator that runs 'terminator --profile=yourprofile'  or --layout=yourlayout   also04:57
Dr_Willis_roscogruen:  md5sum /path/to/the/ubuntu.iso04:57
HempathyChur, I don't use irc often enough to be aware of the etiquette04:57
Dr_Willis_and your desktop is /home/yourusername/Desktop/04:57
Dr_Willis_roscogruen:  so     md5sum /home/yourusername/Desktop/ubuntu.iso04:58
Psil0CybinDr_Willis_: so i think it worked04:58
Psil0Cybini got this04:58
Psil0Cybinhttp://pastebin.com/fD8MAp5y04:58
nerderDr_Willis_, yes is true but when you split the terminal in 2 the second one the you open in this way use "default" as profile and not yours, anywy i edit default a s mine and i fix it ;)04:58
keith_Greetings again solvers. Tonight we have the case of the disappearing desktop. Instead of a nice screen display and icons text in a font and color that's easy to read, I get a dark purple gradient and default black icon text. Just to make it interesting, sometimes a reboot brings things back the way they should be. Any thoughts?04:58
Dr_Willis_nerder:  you can change profiles on the fly  i noticed.04:58
Psil0Cybindoes this make sense Dr_Willis_ http://pastebin.com/fD8MAp5y does this infact mean i cannot access it as root?04:59
keith_Should mention - running UbuntuStudio 12.04 in non-session mode04:59
Dr_Willis_Psil0Cybin:  looks encrypted to me05:00
Dr_Willis_read that readme file?05:00
DasEiHempathy: never mind, people will tell you if you break it or-as you do-just ask :)05:00
roscogruenWhere do i get the sm5sum to verify?05:00
roscogruenmd5sum ^05:01
DasEi!md5 | roscogruen05:01
ubotturoscogruen: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows05:01
Dr_Willis_the ftp site you get the iso file from should have a md5sum file with all the sums for all the isos05:01
cfhowlettroscogruen, read this link ^^^05:01
DasEi roscogruen ah, where ? you mean for the installer iso ?05:01
roscogruenwhere do i find the origjnal?  i located the one on my desktop.  now need to check it05:02
Dr_Willis_roscogruen:  the original what?05:02
Dr_Willis_!downloads05:02
Dr_Willis_!download05:02
ubottuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Saucy, and help keeping the servers' load low!05:02
DasEiroscogruen: it's provided by the d/l site, and then you a : md5sum blah.iso, get a string back and compare with the one from the site05:03
Dr_Willis_http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/MD5SUMS05:03
DasEiyou do* a05:03
Dr_Willis_md5sum has some option to read the sum from the file also05:03
DasEi:)05:03
roscogruenDr_Willis_: i got 12.04.03 desktop05:03
Dr_Willis_roscogruen:  so look for the md5sum file at the url above..05:04
Dr_Willis_under whatever 12.04 diretory exists05:04
* DasEi leans back05:04
Dr_Willis_http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.3/MD5SUMS05:05
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HempathyDasEi:  thanks again, although not sure I'm using correct irc comands either :)05:06
HempathyDr_Willis: Isn't that a console cheat for GTA 505:06
roscogruenDr_Willis_: It matches.  Thank you05:07
DasEiHempathy: pm you ?05:07
Psil0CybinDr_Willis_: you said for me to read the txt what does it say it says in caps this directory has been unmounted to protect your data, from the graphical desktop click on Access your private data or run the command line ecryptfs-mount-private05:07
DasEi!pm05:07
ubottuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.05:07
Psil0Cybinso looks good to me05:08
Psil0Cybini would run the command but i dont want to cause problems05:08
Psil0Cybinwtih that ome directory when i take out the live cd.05:08
Psil0Cybinill run a live cd on my other laptop and run the same command to verify05:10
Psil0Cybinand ill also post on the forums i want to make sure just feel wierd that fdisk -l would say only my swap is encrypted05:10
Dr_Willis_the FILES IN your home directory are encrypted Psil0Cybin . not the partion where home is at.05:15
Dr_Willis_Psil0Cybin:  the swap partition is encrypted..  since there is no 'files' there05:15
Dr_Willis_you got some .encrypted-home-files   file in your home is how i think it works.. use ls -al to see05:16
arquebusIve installed ubuntu and I cant get the wireless to stay connected, anyone know how I go about fixing this?05:16
SPEEDWAVEarquebus, go to device manager05:18
arquebusSPEEDWAVE: where would I find that05:18
SPEEDWAVEarquebus, at system setting,then additional drivers05:19
arquebusSPEEDWAVE: ok, Im in system settings, I see Device Actions, Network Settings, but no Additional Drivers05:20
Dr_Willis_or run -->  software-properties-gtk    the last tab.05:21
Dr_Willis_arquebus:  wht ubuntu relase was this?05:21
arquebusDr_Willis_: Im actually using Kubuntu, but no one in #kubuntu is answering05:21
john____1±05:23
john____1²05:23
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Dr_Willis_arquebus:  what version05:24
arquebusDr_Willis_: 13, the current05:24
Dr_Willis_arquebus:  13.10 is the current latest relese.05:24
Dr_Willis_or run -->  software-properties-qt   -> the last tab05:24
Dr_Willis_for kde05:25
Dr_Willis_oops its05:25
Dr_Willis_or run -->  software-properties-kde05:25
Dr_Willis_;)05:25
arquebusDr_Willis_: ok, thats what I installed, the install went fine, the wireless connected for a moment, then disconnected, and I cant get it to reconnect at all]05:25
Dr_Willis_arquebus:  no idea. I only buy wifi dongles i know work with no isues out of the box. ;) they dont evenneed addational drivers05:26
xmetallast time i had wifi "issues" (i just needed proper drivers) and ubuntu was 9.1005:27
arquebusDr_Willis_: just curious, do you use one of those USB wireless? if so, what brand?05:27
xmetalsince then a few versions i have tried work "out of the box"05:27
Dr_Willis_its all about the chipset. ;)05:27
Dr_Willis_i got about 4 differnt dongles that work - just plug and play05:28
Dr_Willis_ranging in price from a Huge $17.99 to $9.99   ;)05:28
Dr_Willis_Bus 002 Device 005: ID 7392:7811 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7811Un 802.11n Wireless Adapter [Realtek RTL8188CUS]05:29
Dr_Willis_was $10  i think05:29
arquebusDr_Willis_: ok, thx05:30
BlackFlagGood evening, gentlemen!05:35
lotuspsychjeBlackFlag: hi mate05:36
BlackFlagHow do I know the version of of my wireless card driver?05:36
lotuspsychjeBlackFlag: lshw -C network05:37
Dr_Willis_it would depend on your kernel version i imagine05:37
BlackFlagkernel version is 3.2.605:37
BlackFlaglshw shows me the number of kernel version05:39
Dr_Willis_sudo lshw -C network05:39
Dr_Willis_shows 'version : 06'  here ;) for one of my cards.. but i think thats the card version. not the module version05:39
BlackFlag"driverversion=3.2.6" =/05:40
Hempathy_Ubuntu shuts down on me using dual monitors.... help me irc you're my only hope!05:41
BlackFlagmy card is a RTL 8191se05:41
Dr_Willis_sudo lshw -C network | grep driver05:41
Dr_Willis_there we go. ;) driver version = 3.11.0-12  ;) the same as my kernel05:41
Hempathy_that was my last me quitting due to unrequested shutdown!05:42
Dr_Willis_Hempathy_:  whats your video chipset and driver?05:42
DasEiok, backon here, background05:43
BlackFlagI saw in the site that the latest driver has a different number: 2021.0.0203.201205:43
lacremhi there05:44
Hempathy_Dr_Willis:  help me answer your question :)05:44
Dr_Willis_Hempathy_:  lspci05:44
Hempathy_I appreciate your time and help on this05:45
Dr_Willis_i use nvidia here. dual monitors work fine - plug in 2nd monitor.. it turns on.. and works. ;P05:45
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Hempathy_I so wish I'd gone nvidia and i705:46
BlackFlaglspci don't shows me the driver05:46
Hempathy_but I've an AMD05:46
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lacremI have a small problem with Ubuntu, someone would like to help me?05:46
lacremit's UEFI related...05:46
Dr_Willis_Hempathy_:  its not one of those dual gpu setups is it?05:46
DasEiHempathy_: sudo apt-get install hwinfo && sudo hwinfo > hwinfo.txt && gedit hwinfo (for a detailed listing)05:47
DasEi!ask | lacrem05:47
ubottulacrem: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:47
DasEilacrem ,more details ?05:49
Hempathy_Package 'hwinfo' has no installation candidate05:49
Dr_Willis_!info hwinfo05:50
ubottuPackage hwinfo does not exist in saucy05:50
Dr_Willis_!find hwinfo05:50
ubottuFile hwinfo found in app-install-data, elementary-icon-theme, gnome-colors-common, gnome-icon-theme-gartoon-redux, gromacs-dev, jets3t, kde-icons-mono, kde-workspace-dbg, krusader, monav-data (and 6 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=hwinfo&mode=&suite=saucy&arch=any05:50
Dr_Willis_Hmm,,,05:50
DasEiic, unity, no hwinfo, gnnnh05:50
Dr_Willis_i got hwinfo here05:50
Dr_Willis_not sure what package it came from05:51
Dr_Willis_!find /usr/sbin/hwinfo05:51
ubottuPackage/file /usr/sbin/hwinfo does not exist in saucy05:51
Dr_Willis_heh05:51
Dr_Willis_time to install apt-file ! ;P05:52
lacremok, I've been trying to install Ubuntu (and other distros) in my laptop (it's a Medion Erazer X6823, a gaming laptop made from an MSI GT60 base, I guess motherboard, graphic card and everything still comes from MSi). The point is the only distro is booting the live pendrive in this laptop is ArchLinux, Ubuntu starts booting, then stays in a blank screen, I can see the pendrive light like is reading but after 4 seconds stops. I05:52
lacrem have tried everything, -nomodeset -lpsci believing it was by the nvidia optimus but is not because if I boot in legacy mode is working. Now I have installed Manjaro in legacy mode, because with Ubuntu after installing it in legacy mode it was not shutting down properly the computer, after shutting down and switching on again, or after rebooting the laptop was entering the bios setup ... I've search in ubuntu forums, I found s05:52
lacremomeone with the same problem but was not solved....05:52
zexcrizis their any web based interface to manage kvm virtual machines ?05:52
Dr_Willis_lacrem:  so legacy mode worked.. it just dident power down  when you shutdown?05:53
DasEiHempathy_: sudo apt-get install lshw-gtk && sudo lshw-gtk05:53
DasEi!info lshw-gtk05:53
ubottulshw-gtk (source: lshw): graphical information about hardware configuration. In component universe, is optional. Version 02.16-2 (saucy), package size 418 kB, installed size 1622 kB05:53
lacremyeah, it powers down but I don't know why when I start again the computer goes into the bios setup. It doesn't happens with Manjaro. Anyway I would like to install it in UEFI mode cos I need to have dual boot with W8. I got Arch working, but I like Unity (strange uh? haha)05:54
Dr_Willis_!info hwinfo05:55
ubottuPackage hwinfo does not exist in saucy05:55
Dr_Willis_now thats weird.. i got hwinfo here in saucy05:55
Dr_Willis_hwinfo - Hardware identification system05:55
geniiDr_Willis_: Here too05:56
Dr_Willis_lshw-gtk looks handy ;)05:57
DasEiDr_willis:  use the show option to see the repo, I'm not on saucy now05:58
DasEi:)05:58
Dr_Willis_trying to use apt-file to find the package it came from. but i cant rember the syntax ;)05:58
DasEisome might have some gnomee-devicemanager, idk, fewothers around.. nvm05:58
geniiDr_Willis_: packages.ubuntu.com reports that for Raring it was package hwinfo. Also doesn't list it for Saucy though06:00
Hempathy_so now I have lshw... what can I share?06:00
Dr_Willis_this is a upgraded system.06:00
Dr_Willis_so perhaps its dead jim. ;)06:00
Dr_Willis_i forget why we wanted hwinfo/lshw now ;P06:00
genii!info hwinfo raring06:01
Hempathy_hahha somthing about my graphics device  driver06:01
ubottuhwinfo (source: hwinfo): Hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 16.0-2.2 (raring), package size 17 kB, installed size 99 kB06:01
DasEiHempathy_, dr_willis : which graphic card on the dualhead HDMI ?06:01
DasEigenii: raring, great06:02
genii!info lshw saucy06:02
ubottulshw (source: lshw): information about hardware configuration. In component main, is standard. Version 02.16-2 (saucy), package size 299 kB, installed size 794 kB06:02
geniiHm.06:02
DasEidr_williscould you do a apt-cache show hwinfo to see the repo ?06:03
DasEidr_willis : could you do a apt-cache show hwinfo to see the repo ?06:03
Dr_Willis_apt-cache show hwinfo  | pastebinit06:04
Dr_Willis_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6310468/06:04
Dr_Willis_i dont really see a repo listed06:04
geniiDasEi: apt-cache search hwinfo  ..Results on Saucy: backupninja - lightweight, extensible meta-backup system    ..apt-cache policy hwinfo:  Candidate: (none)06:05
DasEitschäh, looks like dead Jim then06:05
Dr_Willis_this is a 13.10 system ive upgraded like.. twice ;) i think06:05
Dr_Willis_Oh The Huge-Manatee!06:06
Gallomimia_argh. i've forgotten the new release name again ><06:06
Hempathy_Chur, isnatlling pastebinit06:06
DasEiGallomimia_: lsb_release -a06:06
Gallomimia_oh there it is in my backscroll...06:07
* genii sips and ponders Tahrs06:07
Gallomimia_dasei thanks for the tip tho06:07
Gallomimia_percentage of sites updated with installers pertaining to new release encountered so far: zero.06:07
OeslianHey has anyone here been able to get nvidia drivers working on laptops that have hybrid graphics?  I have integrated intel cpu graphics and an nvidia 480 in my HP laptop, I need to get nvidia drivers working but am not sure how06:10
DasEi!paste | Hempathy_06:15
ubottuHempathy_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.06:15
DasEi!nvidia | Oeslian06:16
ubottuOeslian: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto06:16
DasEiOeslian: I gtg soon, but Dr_willis might have some help06:16
Dr_Willis_Oeslian:  look at the 'bumblebee' wiki pages/docs/guides and info on askubuntu.com and otehr sites. its needed for dual gpu machines06:29
Mace268is it risky to do a version upgrade?06:29
Dr_Willis_Mace268:  lots of people upgrade from one relase to the next with no issues..06:30
Atrumxno06:30
Dr_Willis_some people have lots of issues. ;)06:30
Dr_Willis_but this is a support channel. so we tend to see people that have issues more then people who have no issues. ;)06:30
Dr_Willis_I upgraded with no hassles.06:30
Mace268good point xD06:30
cfhowlettDr_Willis_, most upgrade without issue - but when you DO get issues ... thus the clean install over upgrade recommendation06:31
Mace268to 13.10?06:31
xmetaltrue06:31
Dr_Willis_its often faster to clean install then upgrade several releases.06:31
OeslianDr_Willis_ thanks for the tips, i hav06:32
Dr_Willis_and if you got a lot of ppa's and other stuff enabled.. that can cause issues06:32
xmetali dont upgrade "every release" but every few releases and i choose to do a clean install of the new versipn06:32
Oesliani have been googling but have not found much info*06:32
xmetaland then upgrade the packages i want06:32
xmetalupdate/upgrade ... whatever06:32
Dr_Willis_I tend to beta test stuff.. so i install a lot of crud i never use for testing..06:32
Dr_Willis_so after i play with it a while. i tend to do a clean install a few weeks after release for each reelase06:33
Mace268thanks for the infos :)06:33
TeeGhosthow to display Chinese in tty?06:33
zexcrizi want to open remotely my router configuration page in the terminal is that possible using text based browser if yes than which  ?06:35
Dr_Willis_zexcriz:  ive used lynx or links to get to my router web config page befor.06:35
Dr_Willis_it may or may not work well - depends on the router06:35
TeeGhostzexcriz: a text browser?lynx or w3m06:35
deegozexcriz: heh, I even "expected" it.  :)06:36
zexcrizcool :D06:37
TeeGhostw3m can display images06:38
Dr_Willis_i think links. or links2 can also.  but its been ages ;)06:38
nielso should I use java sun or java 7 for minecraft servers?06:39
Dr_Willis_niel:  whatever the minecraft docs reccomend. ;)06:39
Dr_Willis_and its no longer sun java.06:39
nielwell everyone says something different06:39
Dr_Willis_flip a coin. and try one i guess06:40
Dr_Willis_!java06:40
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.06:40
nieland screw minecraft docs they are still deving on java 506:40
Dr_Willis_the doc writers are to busy running from creepers06:40
niellol06:41
nieland its not regular minecraft its heavily modded06:41
Dr_Willis_ive never played minecraft.  - did play Terreria on steam for a while. ;)06:41
nielyou should06:41
nieldeb taking a long time to install06:41
Dr_Willis_ill pass. ;) i got enough time wasters06:41
nieltried 10 different os's today06:42
nielonly like 3 actually work with this graphics card06:42
Dr_Willis_hmm... steam is not working for me on 13.1006:42
nielworks for me06:42
nielwhat flavour?06:42
Dr_Willis_'could not connect to the steam network .. this could be die to a prolem with the internet connection or the steam network....'06:43
Dr_Willis_but its on this pc. ;)06:43
Dr_Willis_so internetz is working06:43
Mace268upgrade in progress, wish me luck xD06:44
nielDr_Willis_, derp firewall?06:44
Dr_Willis_niel:  none here that  i have enabled.06:44
Dr_Willis_router is fairly open also06:44
nielweird06:45
nielregular ubuntu?06:45
nielworks great on xubuntu06:45
jackjust have the router forward _all_ ports06:46
Dr_Willis_sudo iptables --flush       so got no rules.06:46
Dr_Willis_same router as the windows box uses for its steam06:46
jmgkrhii06:46
nielsteam blocked you ;)06:46
jmgkhii06:46
Dr_Willis_havent been on steam in months06:47
nielgo try on the winderps box06:47
Dr_Willis_if i get steam started..  i proberly will start playing games.. and not be back for days. ;P06:47
nielmabye its broken on purpose06:48
browndawgWhat's a nice way of having apt-get install packages listed in a text file (one package per line)06:48
nielfor the greater good06:48
nielbrowndawg, apt-get update the copy paste06:48
Dr_Willis_browndawg:  i just make a script that has lines of 'sudo apt-get install packagename package3name and so forth....06:49
browndawg:-|06:49
Dr_Willis_otherwise you have to use a script to read/install each package.06:49
nieldebian is cool should run the server much faster06:49
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browndawgYeah that's what I have too right now, Dr_Willis_, but I thought it would be neat to be able to read it from a separate file to avoid cluttering the install script06:49
nielbrowndawg, and I want to be rich06:49
Dr_Willis_browndawg:  xargs  can do it i imagine06:50
Dr_Willis_cat file | xargs <some options>06:50
browndawgyes but xargs is going to spawn a new apt-get proc06:50
browndawgfor every arg06:50
browndawgcan I make it so it's done in one go?06:50
energizerHi my sound settings are not sticking. In particular "play sound through".06:50
browndawgapt-get install <all packages read from file>06:50
Dr_Willis_if you got 100000 lines of packages.. that may cause issues06:50
nielnaaa06:51
browndawgless than a 10006:51
niel;)06:51
Dr_Willis_if theres just 10 lines.. you can merge them all onto one line06:51
browndawgbut 100 packages clutter up the install script06:51
Dr_Willis_the bash buffer has a command line size limit06:51
nielI must stay awake to get this running!06:51
nielmy eyes06:51
browndawgand my current vim setup hates more than 80 chars on a line :D06:51
browndawgso no neat way to do it I suppose. Thanks anyway.06:51
browndawgmmkay06:52
Dr_Willis_you can use that bash feature of line continuation06:52
Dr_Willis_ i forget the exact syntax.  \  at the end of a line or somthing06:53
browndawgyeah06:53
Dr_Willis_sudo apt-get install package1 \06:53
Dr_Willis_package2 \06:53
Dr_Willis_or somthing like that.06:53
Dr_Willis_that Might work.06:53
browndawgor just group packages in the installer by their purpose. Build stuff, games, UI06:53
jean_good morning, is someone good in coding in python?06:54
SomefellowDoes anybody know what this means, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.06:55
Dr_Willis_Somefellow:  do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to   have them upgrade06:55
t38browndawg: how about   sudo apt-get install $(cat files_to_install.txt) will work06:56
SomefellowI think aptitude fixed it06:56
browndawgt38: EXACTLY what I was looking for06:56
browndawgt38: Thanks man.06:56
t38np06:57
jean_someone to explain to me the logic behind def fct(s) : return s and 1 + fct(s[1:]) or 006:57
jean_in python06:57
SomefellowNah it didnt06:57
SomefellowDr_Willis_, That command gives me 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.06:58
browndawgt38: It doesn't work in zsh for some reason. The array gets filled with $(x\ny\nz)06:58
Dr_Willis_Somefellow:  so whts the exact command that has teh issue06:58
energizerAny thoughts on how to get my sound settings to stick?06:58
Dr_Willis_energizer:  alsactrl store/restore perhaps06:59
SomefellowDr_Willis_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6310620/06:59
t38browndawg: I think you can do this in synaptic too.. File - Read Markings  and open your text file07:01
Dr_Willis_Somefellow:  whens the last time you did a 'sudo apt-get update' ?07:01
SomefellowHm I'm pretty sure I did it today, I'll go through the usual update upgrade stuff and let you know what happens07:02
browndawgt38: Want to do it without user interference, trying to load it into an array like you said07:02
browndawgor screw it07:02
unbuntuHello all07:02
SomefellowDr_Willis_, No change07:04
Dr_Willis_Somefellow:  somthings weird. libc is a rather critical library07:04
SomefellowAny idea what I should do?07:05
t38browndawg: how about instead of $(cat files_to_install.txt) Use  $(< files_to_install.txt)07:05
Dr_Willis_but its not the libc thats the stoppage.. its the  g++ version that its having issues with it seems07:05
Dr_Willis_sudo apt-get -f    perhaps? thats the 'hope it works fix' i often see07:05
Dr_Willis_build-essential is a meta package. it pulls in other packages.  see ifyou can install libc6-dev by itself. same for g++07:06
Dr_Willis_!info libc-dev07:06
ubottuPackage libc-dev does not exist in saucy07:06
Dr_Willis_hmmm07:06
Dr_Willis_!info libc6-dev07:07
ubottulibc6-dev (source: eglibc): Embedded GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Header Files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.17-93ubuntu4 (saucy), package size 5389 kB, installed size 20639 kB07:07
SomefellowDr_Willis_,  libc6-dev : Depends: libc6 (= 2.15-0ubuntu10.5) but 2.15-0ubuntu10+openvz0 is to be installed07:08
Dr_Willis_openvz.. hmm. this is a normal ubuntu install? or on some virtual thing or vps?07:08
SomefellowIt's a VPS yes07:09
SomefellowShould I reinstall the OS and see what happens?07:09
Dr_Willis_ive seen vps's twiddle with the packages - but no idea what would be best to try.07:10
SomefellowFor a 1GB Ram server, would 32 bit or 64 bit be better?07:10
Dr_Willis_im not sure it matters on a vps.07:10
SomefellowI've just always defaulted to 64x07:11
Dr_Willis_i always use 64bit  on my hardware.07:11
Dr_Willis_;)07:11
energizerDr_Willis "store" to save and "restore" to recall? then set a script to run "restore" every time?07:11
Somefellowx86 is for weakings?07:11
anoopHow to notify users crossing filesize limits specified by /et/security/limits.conf?07:11
Dr_Willis_energizer:  i recall the askubuntu.com site had details on doing it. ive never had to mess with the sound that way.07:12
dfgas_anyone deal with xbmc and using hard drives for you videos and such? i am trying to use a 2tb hard drive, connected to my router or straight up to ouya and i get 10mb transfer speeds. however my 8gb flash drive is super fast.  i am using samba07:13
energizerDr_Willis_: aite thanks07:13
dfgas_not 10mb, but 1.007:13
anoopedit /etc/security/limits.conf?07:14
SomefellowDammit, fresh Ubuntu 12.04 still throws it07:14
dfgas_ughhhh wrong button, lol07:16
Dr_Willis_dfgas_:  xbmc can access upnp servers on the  server also. so samba is not required07:18
dfgas_Dr_Willis_, but i want to put videos on it07:18
Dr_Willis_could be the network is the bottle neck, or it might in fact be samba.07:18
dfgas_and stream over my network07:18
SomefellowW: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]07:19
SomefellowSigh...07:19
tnk1Can anyone help me get the twinview to work with the nvidia settings/ i updated to 12.10, and now the dual head setup I had isn't working - just showing duplicate screens in both07:19
dfgas_hmmm07:19
Dr_Willis_dfgas_:  err... what do you think a upnp server does.. ;)07:19
Dr_Willis_!natty07:19
ubottuUbuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) was the fourteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on 2012-10-28, see http://ubottu.com/y/natty for details.07:19
Dr_Willis_!eol | Somefellow07:19
ubottuSomefellow: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades07:19
Dr_Willis_but that is weird.07:19
Dr_Willis_looking at the server here Somefellow .. lets see07:19
dfgas_Dr_Willis_, well problem is that even connected straight to my ouya and i get poor transfer speeds on my 2tb07:19
SomefellowOk, so 12.04 is broken for me, and 11.04 doesnt work anymore07:20
SomefellowI'm enjoying today07:20
Dr_Willis_Somefellow:  its 404 here also07:20
dfgas_Dr_Willis_, but my 8gb gets awesome speeds07:20
paulus68_1Somefellow: you can enlighten your day by upgrading to th enew version :)07:20
Dr_Willis_theres no natty at all on that server Somefellow07:20
SomefellowHost only offers 12.04 and 11.04 D:07:21
Dr_Willis_http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/07:21
Dr_Willis_wonder if theres an EOL-EOL server. ;)07:21
Dr_Willis_or some other archive.ubuntu.com servers07:21
* Somefellow sighs07:21
SomefellowMaybe its time to give CentOS another go07:21
SomefellowAfter 3 years...07:21
Dr_Willis_weird that lucid is there.. but not natty07:21
tnk1Can anyone help me get the twinview to work with the nvidia settings/ i updated to 12.10, and now the dual head setup I had isn't working - just showing duplicate screens in both07:28
Dr_Willis_tnk1:  does nvidia-settings show you are using the nvidia drivers?07:29
tnk1304.8807:29
tnk1Dr_Willis_: 304.8807:29
tnk1nv-control 1.2807:30
Dr_Willis_so the x server dispkay config in the ncidia-settings tool dosent show both monitors?07:30
tnk1it shows both. i select twinview and position left of primary screen. but the second (left) screen still shows the same as the primary (right) screen.07:30
Dr_Willis_tnk1:  you saved the settingg to the xorg.conf file?07:31
tnk1 it was working fine before I did the last dist-upgrade an hour ago07:31
tnk1it blacks and refreshes the screen, and it's nothing different, so why would i save a dysfunctional setting to xorg conf?07:31
Dr_Willis_because you may need to restart the x server to get it to read and use the setting07:32
Dr_Willis_if it fails.. you remove the xorg.conf07:32
Dr_Willis_ive rarely had 'apply' work properly. ive always saved to xorg.conf and restarted the x server07:32
oeslianHey Dr_Willis_ I want to thank you for the tip to look up bumblebee it worked great07:33
Dr_Willis_if i dont have an xorg.conf and just plug in the 2nd monitor.. it gets auto-enabled here for me most of the time07:33
Dr_Willis_oeslian:  you are lucky it works ;) its very very much a work in progress.07:33
tnk1Dr_Willis_: what's the cli command to restart X?07:35
Dr_Willis_tnk1:  sudo service lightdm restart         from a console is what i normally use07:35
oeslianThe main thing i wanted was to be able to work on my game, it compiled and ran great07:35
tnk1I'm not sure I'm using lightdm07:35
Dr_Willis_then use whatever dm you got. ;)07:35
Dr_Willis_lightdm is the default for ubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, and ubuntu-gnome...07:36
Dr_Willis_guess he was using lightdm...07:36
Dr_Willis_;P07:36
oeslianhaha07:37
oeslianI will stick around here see if I can help anyone else I guess07:37
Dr_Willis_bb in a bit.07:38
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Psil0Cybinhey does anyone know how i can get a transparent menu fro the right click on xubuntu07:47
Psil0Cybinthe right click menu07:47
nullbyte_why nouveau fails on ubunutu 13.10 it just works fine X and console i have set up a vide mode with video=1024x768@32 and console works OK, but after using the computer all fails console is not in full screen and X can't show nothing?!?07:48
nullbyte_like...07:49
TeeGhosthow to display Chinese(utf8) in ubuntu tty?07:49
ddaaaaHow can I set upload limit in Transmission?07:56
helmut_hi07:56
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Confused666,grty60,2108:03
dw-my keyboard has a couple keys that don't show up in xev... how do i use them?08:05
dw-nvm.. googling found something08:08
SnyperYou guys have any idea how I can create a bootable windows 7 usb using ubuntu??08:11
Snyperanyone?08:13
belaHy!08:13
belacan somebady help me08:13
bela?08:14
bela?08:15
belawhere can i see what driver is not instaled on my pc?08:16
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belawhere can i see what driver is not instaled on my pc?08:17
belawhere can i see what driver is not instaled on my pc?08:18
belaf this ubuntu i go to windows08:18
nicklas_What operating system are you running bela?08:18
belaolee08:19
belaubuntu 13.1008:19
Psil0Cybinanyone use xubuntu i got a question everyones afk on ubuntu08:19
belai think my video card is not properly instaled08:19
SnyperOkkkk08:19
belaon the resolution i get 800 maxim08:20
SnyperSo, anyone knows of a software for ubuntu that can allow mo to create a bootable windows 7 on a usb?08:20
belai am new sory08:20
esingHi08:21
belahy08:21
abhi_hey i need too knw hw to connect wifi over ubuntu08:21
abhi_12.0408:21
Snyperokk i guess everyone's dead08:21
nicklas_nearly everyone08:22
SnyperxD08:22
FreshPer....08:22
xxx__Hello all. I would like to ask you for help. I have a laptop Asus X550V(i5-3230, 4gb RAM, Nvidia 740M + Intel HD4000). I installed Ubuntu 13.10 alongisde Win8(preinstalled) and both systems are running without problems. However, I have problem with second graphic card(Nvidia 740M), as Ubuntu doesn't recognize it. I installed bumblebee with this tutorial https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Installation, but I still get error "Cannot acce08:22
xxx__I tried to do this: [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) No devices detected. you need to edit the /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nvidia (or /etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.nouveau if using the noveau driver) and specify the correct BusID by following the instructions therein.  but with lspci / VGA i get only info about Intel 4000, but no Nvidia.When I type only lspci, I get the line for Nvidia 740M,but after I edit the config f08:22
nicklas_at any rate im having a really shitty connection at the moment08:22
belaso nick can y help me08:23
Psil0Cybinhey guys a quick question with xubuntu : i found a problem when change the opicity setting in windows manager for the popup windowsnothing changes, i want to make my right click menu transparent all other windows are transparent but that one thing08:23
Snyperok08:23
esingI switched to the proprietary ati graphic card drivers (fglrx) because with the radeon driver I have vertical tearings when playing videos. With flgrx the tearing is gone and the overall graphic looks better, but now I get occasionally segfaults when I maximize a window with a shortcut to the right or left side of the screen08:23
Snyper /quit now08:23
FreshPerI have to say that this problem is one of the difficulties I met some mouth before...08:23
esingWhat do you recommend me to do08:23
abhi_pls help hw to configure my wifi pls08:23
nicklas_you guys having problems can always try "askubuntu.com"08:24
nicklas_http://askubuntu.com/08:24
FreshPerNot good at English....My lord...08:25
abhi_hey pls give me answers hw to configure mt wifi08:25
abhi_my wifi08:26
nicklas_what wifi card do you have?08:26
abhi_ralink08:26
nicklas_model?08:26
abhi_rt329008:26
nicklas_ok wait i'll go search a little08:26
abhi_ok thankuu08:27
abhi_my laptop is HP PRO BOOK08:27
abhi_HP PRO BOOK 4440s08:28
nicklas_hey abhi, try this link, http://askubuntu.com/questions/253632/how-do-i-get-a-ralink-rt3290-wireless-card-working08:28
nicklas_i do not know about your problem but this seems to work for some08:28
nb-benis this channel also for ubuntu for phones?08:29
belai dont have my video card properly instaled08:29
abhi_BUT NICK i have doubts in tht tooo08:29
nicklas_what video card do you have bela?08:30
belawhere can i see what is not instaled08:30
belaasus eax550hm51208:30
belaist old08:30
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nicklas_hey bela try this, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/jockey-gtk/08:31
bela but if i have other softweres that are not instaled08:32
belawhere can i see them08:32
belalike in my computer08:32
abhi_hey nick i need to chat u in some other way pls08:32
leif_hey when is next lts version of ubuntu08:32
belawhen you go to coputer management08:33
nicklas_i think the additional drivers will let you see what is missing and install it bela08:33
dw-leif_: "This version is scheduled for release on 17 April 2014" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases08:34
leif_cool thanks08:34
belabut whay dosent my videocard to08:34
belaistal08:34
belaok and i have a program four funiture that i have used whith windows08:35
nicklas_i do not know. i've had similar problems with ubuntu 11.0408:35
belai tryed to instaled and it dident worked08:35
belasory my english not the best08:35
xmetalthats why they are labeled x.04 (April) or x.10 (October)08:36
xmetalas in the # of the month of the year08:36
belaith ok that my resulution can not be more then 800x600?08:36
belai dont like it i have big icons08:36
esingHow can I see which catalyst version ubuntu's package fglx uses?08:38
belanick sory08:38
belawhat do i download 4 there08:38
belai have already instaled ubuntu08:38
esingI checked http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/fglrx but I don't see any info about it there08:38
Confused6663308:38
belai have opened a chat room but  y are not there08:39
belacan y help me whit 2 tinks 4 now08:39
nicklas_hey bela, your video card is probably based on an AMD/ATI chip, in that case you could see this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI08:39
belais there a program that runs windows softwers08:40
dw-bela: i googled the asus model you mentioned and it said it uses ati radeon x55008:40
belaty ty08:40
dw-bela: http://google.com/search?q=ATI+Radeon+X550+ubuntu08:40
dw-maybe08:40
nicklas_yes there are programs to run windows software in ubuntu, search for Wine in the software center08:40
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belaolee08:41
belaty all08:41
belai fount this app on youtube08:41
belacan you send me a link or youtube movie where can i learn more abiut ubuntu08:42
nicklas_ok wait,08:42
belaty08:42
abhi_hey nick pls help abt my wifi condition i wnt get internet other wise do u hav any video08:43
esingShould I install the ati driver from ati's website with buildpkg? sh amd-catalyst-13.11-beta6-linux-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/saucy08:43
nicklas_hey bela i have a youtube link you kight like :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJVQoshMLkU08:44
belaif i have an older pc its ok tu run ubuntu ?i instaled on this to see how it works if i like it i whill instal it on my laptop08:44
belaty08:44
nicklas_and abhi what wifi card was it again?08:44
Guest52457salve08:45
abhi_i alrey tried tht link but ia m getting some error08:45
belai just writed down what was on it08:45
abhi_current i a, nw at windows operating system08:45
abhi_any video plssss08:46
belaati radeon x55008:46
nicklas_hey abhi try this: http://linuxforums.org.uk/index.php?topic=10422.008:46
belaits like dw sad08:46
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goganchichi2all08:47
browndawgwhat's a better way to check if the user is root than `if [ "$USER" == "root" ]08:47
browndawg?08:47
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goganchiccan anybody tell me how can I watch my iTunes movies in ubuntu?08:47
polo1982salve !08:47
Lord255hi08:50
rachobrowndawg, if ["$UID" == 0]08:51
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Lord255i have a file with mod time Oct 27 09:38, i want to change it to 25.oct 0000. checked touch's -m switch..  touch -t 2013102500000000 but its not working.08:51
nicklas_hey bela check the side chat08:51
browndawgthanks08:52
Lord255 use [[CC]YY]MMDDhhmm[.ss] instead of current time -> 2013102500000008:53
abhi_ok nick let me go and try it08:53
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Lord255oh well. i see the seconds are not needed. :o08:55
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mfaroukghow to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the correct nvidia configuration.09:03
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mfaroukgany expert in the xorg.conf here?09:04
dixoncxneed help regarding setting up fastboot; device not recognised. quick google search shows adding udev rules: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19446284&postcount=62 Can somebody explain this udev rule ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6311086/09:05
SteveBellhi, ubuntu 13.10 on a netbook here. somehow all window frames are black: http://cl.ly/image/0W2n3d1t2F2z09:06
SteveBellany ideas?09:06
SteveBellthis becomes a real problem when the terminal is completely black: http://cl.ly/image/1w0Y1q1P234109:11
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SteveBellholds true for all windows e.g. thunderbird, sending mail info, update searches, you name it09:11
MalachiSteveBell: Did you change the theme? Install a new theme?09:12
SteveBellno I just updated from 12.04 then 12.10 13.04 and now 13.10. maybe during that update path sth broke?09:13
dixoncxanyone ?09:14
szqfuck09:15
szqfuckbo0ys09:15
MalachiSteveBell:  Try changing the theme and then changing it back to default theme09:15
SteveBellMalachi: like switching to Radiance and then back to Ambiance?09:18
MalachiSteveBell: Yes.09:18
SteveBelldoesn't bring back the borders09:19
belanick are y steel here?09:19
SteveBellfix released? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/49536109:20
ubottuUbuntu bug 495361 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "[Xubuntu] No window manager at startup" [Medium,Fix released]09:20
g105bHey, from a default install, what groups should the main user be associated with?09:21
MalachiSteveBell: Has it been like this since you upgraded? You probably have some old config files conflicting with the new version09:22
belacan sombady help me09:22
SteveBellMalachi: yes. since I first started 13.10 it has been like this09:22
belaa try to instal my video card09:22
belafound the driver09:22
SteveBellsounds reasonable. but now what? should I open a discussion on ask ubuntu?09:22
belabut i dont know how to use termina09:23
belai opend the terminal click enter on driver and what do i do next?09:23
MalachiSteveBell: Look in Nautilus, show hidden files. Delete .themes .gnome etc09:23
eg0xhi people. how is it possible to add an entry in /etc/resolv.conf which isnt overwritten each time? iam using ubuntu 13.1009:23
SteveBellMalachi: could you explain in more detail? I don't find nautilus when doing a search09:25
MalachiSteveBell:  It's your file manager09:26
eg0xnvm, already found it. its /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base :)09:26
SteveBellok, nice name if it doesn't show as such. shows as "Files". so, I said "show hidden files" but a search for .themes shows nothing… hm Malachi any idea?09:29
MalachiSteveBell:  OK, no problem. Is there some .gnome folders? Delete them.09:30
T-RexXxs09:31
SteveBelljust now switched to search "all files". takes a while. will let this finish the search for .themes, then .gnome just a mom09:31
MalachiSteveBell: No need to do a search, really, there's not that many. To see hidden files, you can press "Ctrl+H" then list them alphabetically09:34
belaf linux09:34
belawindows is bether09:34
belalose a lot of time09:34
belasearch search search09:35
belaask ask09:35
belaF09:35
Night-hackshow can i set grub 2 to load my older kernel version ?09:37
Night-hacksi'm currently on 3.2.0-39-generic09:37
parckwartYAAAAY UBUNTUUUUUUUUUU09:37
Night-hacksi want to load 3.2.0-38*09:37
Malachiparckwart: YAY!09:37
MalachiSteveBell: How you getting on Steve?09:38
dixoncxproblem solved :) for reference: http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/android/267-ubuntu-root-nexus-4-phone09:38
SteveBellMalachi: I'm either doing something wrong, or nothing is found or search is taking ages. not sure which is the case ;)09:38
parckwartdoes someone of u know if the multitouch trackpad gestures are fixed in 13.10?09:38
parckwartin 13.04 they didnt work09:38
MalachiSteveBell: No need to search, just press Ctrl+H in Nautilus09:39
SteveBellaha… ok I find .gnome209:39
MalachiOK, delete it09:40
SteveBelldone. now restart?09:40
MalachiSteveBell:  There will be a .config folder, look inside there and if there are gtk folders, delete them09:40
rachoNight-hacks, i suppose you want default boot into your older kernel?09:41
fractal71hello, does anyone know where to find binutils-gold in ubuntu 13.10 to run this simply opengl example: http://www.kiwwito.com/article/installing-opengl-glut-libraries-in-ubuntu ?09:41
SteveBellMalachi: I find gtk-2.0 and gtk-3.0 deleting both.09:41
fractal71I've got an error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL09:42
MalachiSteveBell:  Good. Now no need to reboot, just log out and log in again09:42
belacan somebady help me09:44
belawhay my resolutin is 800x600??09:45
belacan i change it09:45
Malachibela: Did you install graphics drivers?09:45
belai downloaded something but i dont tink has worked09:46
belai can not see what the terminal its saying but it writen whit red09:46
belaand disapers fast09:46
Malachibela:  If you installed graphics drivers you need to restart the machine09:47
belabut its ok if that whas red?09:47
belacan y stay please here until i make a reboot09:48
Malachibela: OK09:48
belaty09:48
Trudko_Guys I have problem to increasing mouse wheel speed and from what I seen over internet it seems that it is problem.  did I miss something?09:50
SteveBellMalachi: folders gone, but problem remains the same so far09:51
belahy09:51
belaMalachi are y here?09:52
MalachiSteveBell: OK. There are also files called .gtkrc which may be causing the issue. Can you delete them and log out and in again?09:52
Malachibela: Yes09:52
beladident worked09:52
belaradeon x55009:52
MalachiAre you using Ubuntu 13.10?09:52
belayes09:53
MaistuxBuenos dias09:53
belai am new09:53
belawhay Bueno09:53
belaits mall09:53
SteveBellMalachi: on the top level I see .gtk-bookmarks, in config folder nothing. where would I find .gtkrc09:53
bela:)09:53
MaistuxHelp with 13.1009:54
bela?09:54
MalachiSteveBell: These .gtkrc things are files, not folders and would be below the folders Nautilus09:54
Malachibela: Search the hud for "Hardware Drivers" and install the graphics driver09:55
SteveBellMalachi: as I said. only find the file .gtk-bookmarks below the folders but no .gtkrc09:55
belai have downloaded 4 asus but dosent work09:55
rachoSteveBell, you may try to reset compiz and unity; in a terminal type: dconf reset -f /org/compiz09:57
rachoSteveBell, after that: setsid unity09:57
SteveBellissue is, when I open terminal I don't see a thing09:57
MalachiSteveBell: OK. Is there a .gconf folder? Get rid of that09:58
rachoSteveBell, what about right after logging in? can you get a working terminal window right after login or it is corrupted right away?09:59
SteveBellok, removed that. logging out + in, no change. corrupted right away09:59
SteveBellcan I use the UX term terminal instead?10:00
SteveBellthat shows sth...10:00
rachoyeah10:00
Malachibela: Have you tried changing the resolution in display settings?10:00
belayes10:01
MalachiSteveBell: It might be the window manager needs to be reinstalled, if you could reinstall Unity ort whatever it's called10:01
belasory whas gogeling10:01
SteveBellso entering dconf reset -f /org/compiz and10:02
SteveBellsetsip unity10:02
rachoSteveBell, setsid not setsip10:02
belai foun this but what to download 4 here10:02
belahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104525710:02
SteveBellups damn. too late. did I ruin anything? it did something..10:02
rachoSteveBell, logout with gnome-session-quit from terminal and lets see if it has fixed it10:03
belaMalachi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104525710:03
SteveBellno sucess. hmm10:04
Malachibela: Yes, Google search will help you better than me. Your graphics card works on Ubuntu10:05
Malachibela: I'm not familiar with Radeon cards, sorry to say10:05
rachoSteveBell, by any chance running a nvidia gpu?10:05
belao10:05
belais this linux so hard10:05
belawhare can which drivers are not instaled?10:06
Malachibela:  Linux is easy to use,  but not all hardware is properly supported10:07
SteveBellGMA 3150 graphics GPU says http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/15/toshiba-mini-nb305-review/ (racho)10:07
belaMalachi: if i dont have any exe how do i intal it10:07
bela?10:08
belarhd_conntest_20080429_i38610:08
mfaroukgtotem crashes10:08
belano .run10:08
SteveBellbela this is not windows, you don't run exe files on ubuntu.10:08
bela:)10:09
mfaroukgXlib:  extension "GLX" missing?10:09
SteveBellracho Malachi http://www.notebookcheck.com/Intel-Graphics-Media-Accelerator-3150-GMA-3150.23262.0.html to be exact10:09
belay but dosent have any extension10:09
bela4 i downloaded somthing had .run10:09
belai clicked proprietis and maydid executed like a program10:10
Malachibela:  you need .deb . It works just like an exe10:10
Stritmy .desktop file doesn't launch the program properly. I've set Terminal to true, but when I press the icon it opens terminal for a split second, and then closes down. Any idea how to fix that?10:11
belayes but 4 where to download a driver 4 this card radeon x55010:11
traubisodasziasztok10:11
belaseruz10:12
MalachiSteveBell: I don't know Steve, try to reinstall the Unity window manager, or whatever it's called. I don't even use Ubuntu these days.10:12
Malachibela:  Well, there's all this information here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI10:12
Malachibela:  Sorry, there;s a lot there10:12
belaMalachi, SteveBell : 4 where to download a driver 4 this card radeon x550?10:13
Neurotoxinhey how do I find out what kind of sound device Im using "alsa" or whatever??10:13
belaTY10:13
Neurotoxinhow find..? ;(10:14
rachoSteveBell, if you log in as a guest does it have the same problem?10:14
MalachiNeuro10:14
kssmanihi can any one help me to install libreoffice in ubuntu studio 12.0410:14
traubisodaon ubuntu 12.04 server, mails sent by php arrive very slow (5+ mins), any idea what could be the problem?10:15
belaMalachi:10:15
MalachiNeurotoxin: You can run lshw from the terminal10:16
belai downloaded 4 ati but dosent works10:16
Malachibela:  If you install a graphics driver, you need to reboot for it to work10:16
belai made the restart before10:17
belathe driver whas not instaled10:17
belate terminal did show a red text but i can not red it it whas fast10:18
kssmanihello can any one help me to install vlc player in ubuntu studio 12.0410:19
rachobela, what is your video card? can you rung 'lspci -v | grep VGA' in a terminal and show the output10:20
belaradeon x55010:22
belaplease help me10:22
kssmanihelp me please10:22
dakotawulfy kssmani what do u need help with10:23
rachobela, your ubuntu version?10:23
ptex`kssmani, have you tried apt-get install vlc?10:24
kssmanii will try apt-get install vlc10:25
belaracho: 13.1010:26
bela?10:28
rachobela, you card is not supported by the amd binary drivers on 13.1010:28
rachoit's considered legacy10:28
rachoyou should use the open source radeon driver10:29
belai can not run aniting on terminal10:29
belawhay?10:29
belai open the terminal try to write but i can"t10:30
Stritmy .desktop file doesn't launch the program properly. I've set Terminal to true, but when I press the icon it opens terminal for a split second, and then closes down. Any idea how to fix that?10:30
Mace268make sure you have full paths in the command Strit. It sounds like it's erroring out10:31
dakotawulfy Strit get the name of the command from the icon  cut and past in terminal and see what error you are getting10:31
StritMace268, the paths are full and the script works if I run it by it self.10:32
Stritdakotawulfy, name of the command? I'm launching a script I wrote myself. :)10:32
belai open the terminal try to write but i can"t10:32
traubisodaI would like to send registration emails via php, but the mail() runs slow, and the emails arrive late. What should I do to get shorter delivery time?10:32
dakotawulfywell u know how to launch it in the treminal10:33
Mace268Strit, full paths in your script too?10:33
dakotawulfystrit did u make it executable10:33
rachobela, as i said your card is *NOT* supported by the fglrx in 13.10 so it won't work with the binary drivers you've installed10:34
belaso what can i do?10:34
rachobela, you should remove them and use the open source driver10:34
belabut when you tun the terminal you can write in it10:34
Stritdakotawulfy, it is executable. I've done the same with other .desktop files that work. This one just doesn't for some reason.10:34
belawhat is open source?10:35
rachobela, as a start you can run this: sudo apt-get purge fgrlx* and then after it finishes reboot your machine10:36
dakotawulfy Strit need to run in terminal to see what error you  have10:36
dakotawulfythat will give u and ideal where to find the problem10:36
NetCattyhi guys10:36
Stritdakotawulfy, and how to do that? The script works flawlessly if I run that in a script. And if I run the .desktop file I get a terminal for a split second before it closes.10:37
Malachiracho: Thanks for diagnosing the problem10:37
belaracho:where to run it?10:37
belasory10:37
rachobela, in a terminal10:37
StritHere's 2 .desktops. ONe that doesn't work, one that does: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6311449/10:37
belai can write10:37
belain the terminal10:37
rachobela, can or can't?10:38
belathis is what i am teling y10:38
belano10:38
belano write10:38
belasory my englis not so good10:38
MrokiiHello. Can somebody recommend a video editor where I don't have to create a project before simply trying to cut out a section of an avi? I tried Pitivi and OpenShot and couldn't even figure out how to select a section to cut it out. And Avidemux isn't available as a package for Ubuntu at the moment, as it seems.10:38
Mace268strit you can set terminal not to close when finished10:38
rachobela, go to a VT console. Ctrl + Alt + F3 for example and run the command there10:38
MalachiStrit: Is it the spaces in the Icon line?10:39
gordonjcpMrokii: Openshot or KDEnlive10:39
Mrokiigordonjcp: As I said, I tried Openshot and couldn't figure out how to select a section to delete it.10:39
Mace268Strit, open terminal then go to edit > profile prefs then look under title and command and set "When command exits" to hold the terminal open. then you can see the output..10:40
dakotawulfystrit or any any one  has to have " " on it if it is wine stuff10:40
dakotawulfyRight10:40
belay have to tel me how to exit to10:41
bela:))10:41
NetCattywhen I've spotify and rhythmbox running at the same time, Rhyth. occupys the media keys and blocks spotify from using them. How do I set the priority for the player to use the media keys and how to switch between them?10:41
belai hit ctr+alt+del and made me reboot10:41
dakotawulfy Strit mkes it tricky if they are not in the right places10:41
Stritdakotawulfy, so, where do you suggest the "'s should be?10:42
n0000bpleasehelphello.. can someone help me10:42
bekks!ask | n0000bpleasehelp10:42
ubottun0000bpleasehelp: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:42
dakotawulfy"Program Files (x86) /Battle.net/battlenet.ico"10:42
StritMace268, this is what I get in an open terminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6311471/10:43
dakotawulfyTry that10:43
SteveBellracho trying to log in as guest I clicked on the settings at the top right, then guest session results in the same problems10:43
dakotawulfy in terminal just cut and past see if it works10:43
dakotawulfysorry10:43
sampeyrehi, how can i find out if my desktop environment is Cinnamon or Mate?10:43
dakotawulfyfor icon '10:43
n0000bpleasehelpokay, here is my problem : I've been messing with the splash screen in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and had copied a new theme in the /lib/plymouth/theme/ folder. I want to revert back to old theme. How can I do it?10:44
rachoSteveBell, then i suspect it may be a problem with your graphic adapter. afaik intel stuff usually runs marvelous on linux. maybe some compiz bug...10:44
sampeyrethe two look very similar, i dont know how to tell the difference10:44
traubisodaWhat causes that, when I connect to my ubuntu server with ssh, if the connection is inactive for like 5 minutes, the connection frozes?10:45
sampeyreis there a command i can give from terminal that will tell me my desktop environment?10:45
dakotawulfystrits what happens when u run it in terminal   ?? /home/strit/battlenet.sh10:45
NetCattyMace268: avidemux, cinelerra, flowblade, kino, kdenlive, open movie editor, Lives, co...10:45
Mace268huh?10:45
Stritdakotawulfy, as said, the script works fine with a ./battlenet.sh in terminal10:45
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n0000bpleasehelpokay, here is my problem : I've been messing with the splash screen in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and had copied a new theme in the /lib/plymouth/theme/ folder. I want to revert back to old theme. How can I do it?10:46
sampeyresomebody help me please10:46
NetCattyMace268: wrong nick, I meant Mrokii10:47
Stritdakotawulfy, when I just run the Icon= line, it gives no errors, no output at all10:47
Mace268ah10:47
dakotawulfystrit   sorry what part not working when u make the icon for it to wor??10:47
rachotraubisoda, look up ClientAliveInterval in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server10:48
dakotawulfystrit give me the comand u have for the icon10:48
dakotawulfystrit  /home/strit/battlenet.sh10:49
n0000bpleasehelphow can I edit default.desktop symbolic link to point to another location?10:49
rachotraubisoda, also SeverAliveInterval in your ssh_config10:49
n0000bpleasehelphow can I edit default.plymouth symbolic link to point to another location?10:50
dakotawulfystrits try that for the icon command10:50
rachon0000bpleasehelp, man ln10:51
n0000bpleasehelpthanks racho10:52
Mace268i don't think the command cares whether it has an icon defined or not10:52
cretsiahdoes lubuntu support wireless keyboards and mouse? and can using lubuntu12.10 get around the radeon and nvidea driver issues of 13.10?10:52
traubisodaracho thanks!10:53
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dakotawulfycretsiah most time yes just try the live cd and u know for sure10:53
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sampeyreCAN SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO KNOW WHICH DESKTOP ENVIRONMENT I HAVE?10:55
cretsiahim downloading both after i tried kubuntu .... kubuntu just gave me a blank screen it was really odd10:55
belaracho: made it but whas noting to be delete10:56
belaunable to locate package10:56
rachobela, so you haven't installed any binary drivers then10:56
Stritdakotawulfy, command for an icon? You mean the line in the .desktop file right?10:56
belayes10:56
sampeyresupport here means ignoring users? dont get it10:57
dakotawulfythe command to execute10:57
belaracho: so how do i instal some driver f my card?10:58
dakotawulfyjust  take that command past in terminal see if it works10:58
sampeyrewell at least i got my last question answered.... bye all10:58
dakotawulfyStirt sounds like it is not linked right10:59
belaaand whay can i not write in the terminal?10:59
rachosampeyre, what does cinnamon --version shows in a terminal10:59
sampeyrethanks, i dont know if i have cinnamon, that's what i want to find out10:59
Stritdoing "sh /home/strit/battlenet.sh" in terminal works fine11:00
rachosampeyre, well run it. if you don't have cinnamon it will throw an error11:00
sampeyreit looks like either cinnamon or mate11:00
dakotawulfystrit try the full command and past in terminal  have for the command for under the icon  command to execute it to see if it works11:00
sampeyrehow do i run it?11:00
rachoopen terminal and run: cinnamon --version11:00
Stritdakotawulfy, Oh, you mean the full path to the .desktop file in the command?11:01
bela?11:01
sampeyreok i get Cinnamon 1.6.7.... so it means i have it.... ok thank you ... thats all i wanted to know11:01
belaracho:so can i instal some drivers 4 my grafic card what is open source?11:02
rachobela, reboot you pc. the open source driver is in the kernel itself11:03
dakotawulfystrit not for  sure the file name  try it under that  like   /home/strit/the name of your script11:03
dakotawulfystrit sorry i mean the location11:04
Stritdakotawulfy, I saved the file at /home/strit/.local/share/applications/battle.net.desktop But the sh command cannot find that file.11:05
belaracho:i have restarted11:06
belabut my resolution is 800x60011:06
dakotawulfystrit right11:06
dakotawulfy i see11:06
belai tried adding aditional drivers but noting11:06
belail go back to windows11:07
dakotawulfystrit Because its because u have to have quotes in the right places11:07
bekksbela: Which Ubuntu do you have, and which graphics card exactly do you have?11:09
bela13.1011:09
belaradeon x55011:09
belaplease help me11:09
rachobela, can you paste the output of xrandr -q11:09
bekks!radeon | bela11:09
ubottubela: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto11:09
belahow11:09
dakotawulfystrit  have a question for you or any one can help  why not put the script in  /usr/bin  the script battlenet.sh11:10
Eduard_MunteanuHi. Is there a secure page that provides the archive key or its fingerprint?11:10
rachobela, run it in a terminal11:10
bekks!pastebin | bela11:10
ubottubela: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:10
belabut how do i use terminal ?i can not write in it11:10
dakotawulfystrit then make it executable11:11
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rachobela, what do you mean can write in it?11:11
dakotawulfy then all you have to do is  is for the command battlenet.sh11:11
belai open terminal and when i hit the keyboard dosent do aniting11:12
Stritdakotawulfy, the script itself is in /home/strit and is executable. So there is no quotes in the line for the command. Only for the one to show the icon, because the icon is in a folder in wine.11:12
bekksbela: Can you write somewhere else, at all?11:14
belahere i can11:14
dakotawulfystrit right  so if u execute it from there it works right ??11:14
belai can11:15
belai have created new folder11:15
bekksbela: And where is "here"? Another computer you are at? Or the same computer where you cant write in terminal?11:15
Stritdakotawulfy, if I run "./battlenet.sh" from terminal while in home folder it works at it should.11:15
belano11:15
belasame11:15
Random832how do I get the hibernate button back on 13.1011:15
belai have instaled on a weker pc to see how it is linux11:16
Random832i already have the file that all the online instructions say to create and it doesn't work11:16
belaif i like it i put ubuntu on my laptop11:16
belai am writing 4 my pc that has ubuntu instaled11:16
dakotawulfystrit not sure but it cant find it in path so it can link it under the icon command11:17
bekksbela: So you are using a live cd currently? Or did you already install Ubuntu?11:17
belainstaled11:17
lucidoI'm looking for the ppa with the newest nvidia drivers, tried ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates but there is bo 13.10 section in that ppa, what's the alternative?11:17
Eduard_MunteanuArgh, Debian doesn't provide a Ubuntu keyring package either.11:17
Stritdakotawulfy, alright. Moving the icon and changing the path to the new one, which is without quotes, makes the icon appear. But still the same with the terminal when running the .desktop file.11:17
dakotawulfystrits11:17
belabekks :11:17
dakotawulfystrit wait11:17
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bekksbela: You just said that you'll install it if you like it. That implies that you havent installed it yet.11:17
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belayes i have11:18
Stritdakotawulfy, terminal says: subprocess ended with status 0.11:18
belai did not run it 4 my cd11:18
sasmit87Hi all ....in my aptana editor Alt+ctrl+down to duplicate lines is not working11:18
rachobela, and you can type in chat but cannot type in terminal?11:18
belai deleted everiting 4 my hdd11:18
belayes11:18
belai have a wirles keybord11:18
bekksbela: Please dont use number for words in here. It makes things hard to read.11:18
belasory11:18
dakotawulfystrit  the script u what to run is battlenet.sh right??11:19
belaty four all y help11:19
Stritdakotawulfy, yes.11:19
sasmit87.in my aptana editor Alt+ctrl+down to duplicate lines is not working. but its working in windows11:19
bekkssasmit87: Did you contact aptana already?11:19
sasmit87no..I think its ubuntu probleam11:20
bekkssasmit87: Because...?11:20
sasmit87here alt+ctrl+down is workspace switcher11:20
sasmit87I mean in ubuntu11:20
dakotawulfystrit u can take that script drop it in the /usr/bin make it a executable  then  all u have to do is rub the script name11:21
bekkssasmit87: Then you have to redefine one of those keybindings.11:21
sasmit87how??11:21
bela?11:21
Stritdakotawulfy, but why isn't it working when my neverwinter.desktop is? :)11:22
rachoStrit, can you paste your desktop file?11:22
Stritracho, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6311449/11:23
lucidoStrit, are you trying to play nwn2?11:23
Stritlucido, no. Neverwinter online. :)11:23
lucidoStrit, i couldn't get nwn2 to work, did you?11:23
Stritlucido, But that works fine. It's the Battle.net app that won't launch via .desktop file, but will using just the script.11:23
lucidoI see11:23
Stritlucido, havent tried Nwn2 on linux. :)11:24
dakotawulfystrit maybe something in the script  paste them both maybe we can find it11:24
belawhay can i do whit my termina?11:24
sasmit87ya I did it....whhhhh :) :)11:25
rachoStrit, could it be your battlenet.sh script needs something more from the current env?11:26
rachoStrit, can please show the battlenet.sh11:26
Stritracho, the script works fine on it's own.11:27
belaracho:what can i do to instal some drivers 4 my souncard and to repair the terminal?11:27
Stritdakotawulfy, racho Here's the 2 scripts. Both works when running the script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6311665/11:27
rachoStrit, of course it will. but when runned from a .desktop file the env vars may get messed up11:27
Stritracho, didn't there was a difference to how it runs the scripts. Just thought it did the same as a "sh".11:28
dakotawulfyStrit so wich one works right the battle.net ??11:30
bela?11:30
Stritdakotawulfy, neverwinter.sh works fine within the .desktop. battlenet.sh does not within .desktop.11:30
dakotawulfyok11:30
belagood luck using linux11:30
rachoStrit, why don't you sprinkle some echoes in between the steps and run it through the desktop file. let's see if runs till end...11:31
belaback to windows11:31
dakotawulfystrit make a back up of your battlenet  script11:31
bekksbela: good luck11:31
dakotawulfystrit change line11:32
belaty11:32
vhey11:33
vdoes anyone know a 2D blue print making software?11:33
dakotawulfy strit   try that in the line cd  /home/strit/.wine/drive_c/"Program Files (x86)/Battle.net"/11:33
vdont want something like blender11:33
vquite difficult to use11:34
bekksv: then use a cad program and not a rendering software11:34
vlike?11:34
Stritracho, okay. It seems it stops right after the agent.exe --noauth bit.11:34
dakotawulfystrit think it some thing to do with the quotes11:34
rachoStrit, so it does not run wine Battle.net.exe &11:35
Stritdakotawulfy, cd line change didn't do a difference.11:35
Stritracho, seems that way.11:35
dakotawulfystrist try this11:36
dakotawulfysorry11:36
dakotawulfystrit11:36
dakotawulfy in terminal11:36
dakotawulfycd  then cut and paste11:36
rachoStrit, what happens when you run the agent.exe line in a terminal on its own11:36
dakotawulfy/home/strit/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/Battle.net/11:36
rachodoes it err11:36
dakotawulfystrit then enter11:37
dakotawulfystrit  see if it finds it11:37
Stritracho, it starts up agent.exe in wine.11:38
Stritdakotawulfy, didn't find it then.11:39
rachoStrit, hmm... try slapping a '&' on the line so you fork it in the background and the run again the desktop file11:39
dakotawulfystrit see not finding the dir11:39
SteveBellracho seems this is not too seldom: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360598/13-10-black-borders-black-terminal11:39
vcan anyone tell me11:40
v??11:40
va 2D cad softare11:40
vfor linux11:40
dakotawulfythe quotes are not right some were wine is hard to make links right quotes have to be right11:40
Stritracho, says no process found: agent.exe. So now it's not even starting that up.11:41
Stritracho, or that's to the killall command at the end.11:41
dakotawulfy Strit have u try to make a link of that file  move the link to the desktop then u should be able to change icon and stuff try that11:42
Eduard_Munteanuv: qcad?11:42
dakotawulfystrit to the battle net sh11:42
vty11:43
Eduard_Munteanuv: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QCad   there's more at the bottom11:43
Stritdakotawulfy, didn't work.11:45
vthanks <Eduard_Munteanu>11:45
dakotawulfyhole on let me see11:45
dakotawulfystrit  hold on11:45
dakotawulfystrit11:47
dakotawulfystrit try this  cd  /home/strit/.wine/drive_c/"Program Files (x86)"/Battle.net/11:48
bingohello. in session and startup, what does display chooser on login do?11:48
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bekksbingo: Do you mean "display manager"?11:49
bingono, this is for xfce11:49
bingoif tht matters11:49
bekksbingo: In the display manager, you enter your credentials to log in...11:50
bingobekks, ty11:50
Stritdakotawulfy, the same11:50
dakotawulfyok11:50
dakotawulfystrit  go to your file browser and give me the dir it says ok11:52
dakotawulfystrit think i got it11:52
StritI'm in the dir /home/strit/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x64)/Battle.net/ now.11:53
dakotawulfystirt cd  /home/strit/.wine/drive_c/"Program Files (x86)"/"Battle.net"/11:53
dakotawulfy try that\11:53
Stritdakotawulfy, nope, still the same outcome. :)11:54
SteveBellracho this indeed fixed the problem with the black terminal and black borders in 13.10 for me :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/360598/13-10-black-borders-black-terminal11:54
SteveBelljust FYI11:54
rachoSteveBell, glad it did but it seems unnatural to installing Mir just to work around that11:55
Eduard_MunteanuIs there no archive key (fingerprint) provided securely? I was going to debootstrap and get the keys to check ISOs, but even that's impossible without the archive key.11:55
Stritdakotawulfy, Ran it with cd command in terminal, says it doesn't exist. (with the quotes)11:56
dakotawulfyqout arent right11:56
bekksEduard_Munteanu: You dont need any archive keys to run md5sum on the ISO and compare it with the md5 sum from the website.11:56
SteveBellunnatural or not, I'm glad I can now work again ;) racho11:56
dakotawulfyquotes arent right11:56
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dakotawulfystrit  not finding the dir11:57
Eduard_Munteanubekks: yeah, that works, but I wanted to check stronger hashes. Well, assuming the PGP signature digest algo is stronger than MD5. :)11:58
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Eduard_MunteanuThey should really post fingerprints on a protected wiki page.12:00
StritWell, it does start up the agent.exe one, but does not launch battle.net.exe12:00
OerHeksEduard_Munteanu, the md5 hashes are on a protected page > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes12:01
dakotawulfyStrit  look at that does that help??12:02
Eduard_MunteanuOerHeks: yeah, I know, that's what I meant by protected page12:02
agronholmhi, can someone point out to me how to install the latest coffeescript on ubuntu 13.10?12:02
Eduard_MunteanuBut the GPG keys aren't verifiable in any way AFAIK, unless you already run Ubuntu. Even Debian doesn't have a keyring package for it. :(12:03
dakotawulfystrit thats what u need12:03
rachoStrit, i suspect because your cwd is not where you think it is. give the absolute path to battle.net.exe12:03
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MonkeyDustagronholm  it's in the repos, use apt-get or the software manager to install it12:04
agronholmMonkeyDust: nope, that gives me coffeescript 1.4.012:04
agronholmnot the latest (1.6.3)12:04
agronholm1.4.0 does not support source maps12:04
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MonkeyDustagronholm  then you need a ppa or external .deb, but that's not supprted here12:04
agronholmis there one?12:04
agronholma ppa or external .deb?12:05
Stritdakotawulfy, did not help. :)12:05
agronholmI tried installing it via npm but that didn't work out -- it wasn't finding the "node" command12:05
Stritracho, path to it is: /home/strit/.wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/Battle.net/battle.net.exe12:05
dakotawulfystrit go to terminal see if it find the dir12:06
dakotawulfylike i did12:06
rachoagronholm, because the guys at ubuntu named it nodejs12:06
rachoyou can install it via npm and at the bin directory of coffeescript change the executable from /usr/env/node to /usr/env/nodjs12:07
Stritdakotawulfy, it can. Just cd'd into it using quotes for "Program Files (x86)" and "Battle.net".12:07
rachoagronholm, or make a symlink from /bin/nodejs to /bin/node12:07
dakotawulfystrit ok now in the script change your line to it that  and save it12:08
Stritdakotawulfy, done. Still doesn't work. :(12:09
dakotawulfyok12:09
jrtappersIs there a way to allow "Play to" on tablets to play music on ubuntu, WMP has an allow remote control option that does this12:09
dakotawulfystrit  see if script still works12:10
dakotawulfyin terminal12:10
agronholmracho: ok that worked, thanks12:10
Stritdakotawulfy, it works when I do ./battlenet.sh from home dir. :)12:10
rachoagronholm, you're welcome12:10
dakotawulfyok12:11
dakotawulfystrit  no try under icon  for the command  /home/strit/.wine/drive_c/"Program Files (x86)"/"Battle.net"/12:12
dakotawulfystrit wait messed up12:13
Stritdakotawulfy, the icon works fine with my .desktop file now, after I moved it to /home/strit/.icons/12:13
dakotawulfyso is it working ???12:13
Stritdakotawulfy, yes, the icon is showing fine for the .desktop file. But the script it should run doesn't run. :)12:13
GuilGuys, you know if I want to boot Ubuntu from my USB and only want to try it (using the trial feature) will that make any modifications to my PC at all?12:14
GuilOr will it just allow me to try the OS without any alterations?12:14
dakotawulfyok imeant the command for the icon12:14
jrtappersGuil, That should make no changes12:14
dakotawulfy to ecute12:14
dakotawulfy execute12:14
Stritdakotawulfy, you mean a command to execute the .desktop file?12:14
dakotawulfy not the path for the icon12:14
Guiljrtappers and to finish using the trial is it just as simple as restarting the PC without the USB in?12:14
dakotawulfystrit12:14
GuilAnd then everything is back to normal?12:15
jrtappersGuil, Yes, if it is a live CD12:15
dakotawulfy i dont like .desktop files12:15
jrtappers*Live USB12:15
dakotawulfy i make all my scripts and put them into /usr/bin12:15
Stritdakotawulfy, well, that's what I'm using.12:15
fishcookerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6311906/12:16
Stritdakotawulfy, I like having icons to press in my Unity bar for easy acces, instead of running commands from terminal all the time. :)12:16
dakotawulfystrit  i think it harder12:16
fishcookerwhat is the meaning of "S1"12:16
Stritdakotawulfy, It's only been harder with Battle.net. The others worl flawlessly.12:16
MonkeyDustfishcooker  sl means sleep12:16
dakotawulfyyea can see i kinda little out of date u dont use unity12:16
dakotawulfy dont like it12:17
jrtappersAny ideas for DNLA play to?12:17
dakotawulfyok12:17
fishcookerit means dont those transmissioncli is not active, MonkeyDust12:17
fishcooker?12:17
dakotawulfy strit let try something still not working right ??12:18
GuilWhen trying to put the ISO on to my USB to make it bootable, which version of Ubuntu 12.04 should I choose? I'm not sure which differentiates each of them, I just know it was 12.04 LTS that I DL'd from the  website12:20
Guilhttp://gyazo.com/f7c127206b8025b0fdfa30889f4a357f12:20
MonkeyDustGuil  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop12:21
OerHeksGuil,  take the 12.04.3 > http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/12:21
GuilCheck the Gyazo link I posted, I'm trying to use PendriveLinux to put on to my USB12:21
OerHekssaves some time updating12:22
Guilhttp://gyazo.com/f7c127206b8025b0fdfa30889f4a357f12:22
jrtappersGuil, You can download from the site and then click browse12:22
jrtappersThat way you get the one from the site, but instead of Universal Boot Installer I would probably recommend YUMI, I find it a bit better12:23
jrtappershttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/12:23
GuilBut you know on the drop down list of distros on UBI, what is the difference between "Desktop i386", "Desktop amd64", "DVD i386" and "DVD amd64"12:24
jrtappersi386 = 32 bit, amd64 = 64 bit12:25
reisiodvd = more than you need12:25
GuilSo if I've got the 64 bit I should go for Desktop amd6412:25
GuilThanks12:25
reisioyup12:26
jrtappersYes12:26
shadowdfj #ubuntu-br12:32
shadowdf#join ubuntu-br12:32
mikolaj_I can't tell if the ubuntu on/off switches means something is turned on or off12:35
subz3r0--> /join #ubuntu-br12:35
DaemonicApathymikolaj_: If you see "On", it's on.12:35
DaemonicApathyAlso, it is usually orange in that case.12:36
mikolaj_but the switch is in the opposite position of the label12:39
mikolaj_so if I put the switch in the "OFF" position, then the button says ON12:40
DaemonicApathyWhat it says is an indicator, not a target.12:40
WIlli-Smithplease how can I set root folder on apache 2.4?12:41
DaemonicApathymikolaj_: So, by default, switch to the right = On, switch to the left = Off.12:41
reisioWIlli-Smith: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/httpd.html12:41
reisiooh 2.4, hrmm12:42
reisioWIlli-Smith: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/core.html#documentroot12:42
mikolaj_it's poorly designed in any case12:42
ndrofthelinehi can someone tell me what the boot flag is to do a media integrity check? it's not on my menu because i used yumi to make my bootable usb12:42
shafeeqdoes ubuntu on a fresh install contain 'unity' package?12:42
DaemonicApathyshafeeq: As of 11.04, yes.12:43
hitsujiTMOWIlli-Smith: DocumentRoot12:43
hitsujiTMOWIlli-Smith: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/core.html#documentroot12:43
reisiohitsujiTMO: you for real? :p12:43
shafeeqDaemonicApathy,  is it any different if i remove and then install it? i tried installing cinnamon, somehow unity was removed. i reinstalled it and now it's too slow12:44
WIlli-Smiththe problem is when I want to change root folder from /var/www to /home/william/http , in browser error 403 will show12:44
reisiondroftheline: media?12:44
hitsujiTMOreisio: lol sorry, concentrating on something else :P12:44
reisiohitsujiTMO: booze I bet! :p12:44
reisiowhich reminds me...12:44
ndrofthelinereisio: yeah to check the integrity of the installation media12:44
hitsujiTMOreisio: unfortunately not12:44
ndrofthelineyeah sorry i meant intstallation media integrity check12:44
reisiondroftheline: before imaging?12:44
ndrofthelinereisio: before installation12:45
DaemonicApathyshafeeq: That depends on what else is running, and if anything made to work with Unity is missing.12:45
reisiondroftheline: but after imaging? That'd be neat if there were such a flag12:45
hitsujiTMOWIlli-Smith: did you give permissions with the Directory directive?12:45
ndrofthelinereisio: yeah, burn a ubuntu cdrom and it will give you three options on booting live, run live, install, and media check12:45
shafeeqDaemonicApathy, compiz seems to take much of the cpu.12:45
reisiooh neat12:45
ndrofthelinereisio: i used yumi to make a bootable usb instead of burning a cd (no optical) but yumi eliminated the last entry, so i can't use it12:46
reisioshafeeq: don't have to use it12:46
leif_what is the name of the libery that allow playing dvd in eu12:46
ndrofthelinei want to know the boot flag to start a media check from the livecd12:46
reisiondroftheline: mmm, there might be two menus, one from yumi and one from the install media, seen that before12:46
ndrofthelineinstallation media* check12:46
shafeeqreisio, compiz12:46
reisioleif_: libdvdread? libdvdcss?12:46
reisioshafeeq: compiz12:46
shafeeqreisio, compiz?*12:46
reisioshafeeq: compiz?*12:47
reisioshafeeq: what about it?12:47
leif_gonna try those12:47
reisioleif_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs12:47
leif_:)12:47
shafeeqreisio, you mean, i can use unity without compiz?12:47
WIlli-SmithI guess there is a permission problem but I dont know how config it12:47
reisioshafeeq: technically yes, but you might want to not use both12:47
reisioshafeeq: Xfce can get you all the same appearances, except possibly the global menu, dunno about that12:47
WIlli-Smithwhat is Directory derective12:47
reisioWIlli-Smith: maybe you should talk to #httpd12:48
hitsujiTMOWIlli-Smith: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/core.html#directory   read the docs12:48
tvillerealestim new to this type stuff (programming) will yall be able to help me f i need help with something?12:49
reisiotvillerealest: yup12:49
shafeeqDaemonicApathy, the default unity works without compiz?12:50
reisioshafeeq: there's another version that doesn't use compiz12:50
WIlli-Smithok, but I dont understatd why apache run under root hasnt permissiont to open user's folder ~/http12:50
DaemonicApathyshafeeq: Never tried it that way - I don't use Unity, personally.12:50
reisiobut unity without compiz is just three ordinary panels, you can get that from almost any DE12:50
shafeeqreisio, how can i get it?12:50
reisioshafeeq: unity-2d12:51
LartzaHmm.. I'm removing nginx and php5 to do a clean LAMP install but for some reason apache2-mpm-prefork and apache2.2-common get marked for install in the remove?12:53
j_ellyhi12:53
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bekksLartza: Then remove everything that requires apache.12:54
chromy keyboard is not working after upgrading to ubuntu 13.10. What can I do?12:54
Lartzabekks, It seems something requires php5 and if that is removed it requires apache? (probably php5-common vs apache2.2-common?)12:54
LartzaBut I don't know what12:54
cfhowlettj_elly, greetings12:55
hitsujiTMOWIlli-Smith: its an internal permission thing for security, so if you're running a dodgy php app, it does not have permission to ... lets say ... pass your credentials or ssh keys, or ssl keys and certs, or anything else that should not be blindly given access to. It protects your server from some vulnerabilities in your php apps. again i must say tho, read the docs. you should not really be blindly configging apache as its too easy to open12:55
hitsujiTMO up security holes with the wrong config.12:55
tvillerealestThere is no 64-bit install for skype is there?12:55
reisiotvillerealest: should be12:55
bekksLartza: It seems more like php5 requires a webserver, either ngibx or apache.12:55
j_ellyhi <cfhowlett>12:56
hitsujiTMOtvillerealest: i think its a multiarch installer12:56
tvillerealesthitsujiTMO: Thats on the skype website?12:56
reisiotvillerealest: probably, but there should be a .deb12:57
hitsujiTMOtvillerealest: yup12:57
reisiotvillerealest: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype12:57
tvillerealestthanks guys12:57
hitsujiTMOtvillerealest: there's 10.04 32bit or 12.04 multiarch12:57
tvillerealesthitsujiTMO: i tried the 32-bit the other day it wouldnt work12:58
SpineEyEI have a question: when typing "git commit -a" i get into git's vi editor. when i then press escape and type in ":q", something about lisp debug mode shows up. I can not close vi13:00
Lartzabekks, I only have php5-common and php5-cli now, removing cli marks 'apache2-mpm-prefork apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5' for install and common is dependency of cli13:00
bekksLartza: Then uninstall php5-common and php5-cli ...13:01
Lartzathat tells me that libapache2-mod-php5 needs common but is not marked for install13:01
SpineEyEcan someone help me close the editor?13:01
chromy keyboard is not working after upgrading to ubuntu 13.10. What can I do?13:01
reisioSpineEyE: :q13:01
reisioSpineEyE: do it again13:02
Lartzaphpmailer... solved :)13:03
SpineEyEhttp://i.imgur.com/zxqGPy6.png13:05
SpineEyEhttp://i.imgur-com/zxgGPy6.png13:05
reisiohttp://www.i.imgur.com/zxgGPy6.png perhapse?13:05
SpineEyEhttp://i.imgur.com/zxgGPy6.png sorry, this is it13:06
reisioSpineEyE: did you try :q again?13:06
SpineEyEi can't type anything13:06
SpineEyEonly ESC gets me out13:06
SpineEyEgets this message away13:07
SpineEyEand then im back in editing mode13:07
reisio:q quits13:07
SpineEyE:q brings this picture up13:07
SpineEyEin normal vi i can quit13:07
reisioSpineEyE: sure you don't have capslock on or something?13:07
reisiothis isn't normal vi?13:07
SpineEyEonly in git vi it's like htis13:07
reisioah13:07
reisiowhat about :q! or :cq13:08
reisioor SHIFT+zz13:08
SpineEyEdoesn't work13:09
SpineEyEshit+zz just types in ZZ13:10
reisioSpineEyE: you have capslock on13:10
SpineEyEno13:10
reisioLIES!13:10
SpineEyEwith capslock it types in zz13:10
reisiocan you close the window?13:10
SpineEyEyes13:10
SpineEyEi can just do git commit -a -m "bla"13:11
SpineEyEbut without -m it's broken13:11
reisiowell I'd talk to #git about that13:11
SpineEyEok13:11
SpineEyEi try there13:11
SpineEyEthanks13:11
reisioor tell it to use another editor, which is almost certainly an option13:11
gordonjcpSpineEyE: "broken" in what sense?13:12
SpineEyEhow to do that?13:12
SpineEyEwell i can't insert any command13:12
reisiowhat's echo $EDITOR say?13:12
SpineEyEoh thats maybe the problem :D13:13
SpineEyEemacs -nw13:13
reisiohuh13:13
reisioI admit I haven't used Emacs in so long13:13
gordonjcpSpineEyE: it uses nano by default, or the contents of $EDITOR otherwise13:13
reisiobut it does make sense, re: Lisp13:13
reisioso yeah, probably Emacs and not vi/m at all, heh13:14
reisioSpineEyE: CTRL+x, CTRL+c then13:14
SpineEyEthank you :D13:14
nenya b13:15
reisionenya: I concur13:15
SpineEyEa linux noob learns something new every 5 minutes at least13:16
SpineEyEsee you13:16
reisioI can learn you more than that, but we'll need a canoe and a mop13:17
compdoclearn me!13:17
reisiocompdoc: you're not ready :p13:17
compdoc:(13:17
reisionow you're ready13:17
compdoclol13:17
reisiothis hasn't anything to do with Egyptians, friend13:17
reisiohaha13:18
Vivekanandahello eveyrone. reisio howdy. If I already have windows and ubuntu 12.04 and I want to reinstall windows it will overwrite the grub13:18
Vivekanandahow do I save an restore it ?13:18
tvillerealestdoes anyone know how to install multiarch?13:18
reisioVivekananda: from your Ubuntu install media13:18
reisioVivekananda: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair13:18
reisiotvillerealest: install what?13:18
tvillerealestMultiArch13:19
reisioVivekananda: 2nd option there13:19
k1l_tvillerealest: multiarch is not something you install. its already included in ubuntu13:19
tvillerealestoh13:19
tvillerealesti feel dumb now13:19
reisiotvillerealest: :)13:19
k1l_tvillerealest: no need to.13:19
razzledazzlehello guys, is it possible to edit windows boot entries from Ubuntu?13:20
razzledazzleI locked myself out of Windows13:20
reisiorazzledazzle: to what end13:20
tvillerealestim new to this so ur gonna have to cut me some slack13:20
reisiorazzledazzle: locked?13:20
bekksrazzledazzle: define "locked out" please.13:20
razzledazzleI'll explain13:20
* reisio gets popped corn13:20
* rypervenche grabs a handfull.13:20
razzledazzleI installed crunchbang, the installer did its thing with GRUB2, it was normal13:20
reisiorazzledazzle: ooh13:21
razzledazzlehowever, when it booted Windows 7 boot menu showed up13:21
bekksrazzledazzle: What does "locked out of windows"?13:21
k1l_tvillerealest: if you have some issues just ask specific questions with details in here :)13:21
reisioa boot menu when you booted? That sounds awful13:21
razzledazzleand there was no crunchbang to be seen just windows options13:21
bekks*mean13:21
reisiorazzledazzle: does windows boot?13:21
razzledazzleyes, it does13:21
reisiorazzledazzle: okay, sounds like your grub.cfg is just off13:21
reisiorazzledazzle: boot a live OS and come back here13:22
tvillerealestOk in that case, do i have to enable multiarch. Im using unity does that make a difference?13:22
razzledazzleI continued with Windows and then added Crunchbang with EasyBCD13:22
k1l_razzledazzle: just ask the crunchbang support what they changed that could cause this problem13:22
razzledazzleits a Linux thing, it should be solvable13:22
reisiotvillerealest: multiarch means dealing with more than one arch, it's not something you have to opt into or be aware of afaik13:22
k1l_razzledazzle: or ask in ##linux13:22
reisiorazzledazzle: easybcd still needs grub functioning properly13:23
Vivekanandareisio: after installing it on the boot cd it does not recommend to first create a boot backup13:23
razzledazzleLet me explain guys, the weird part is that when I chose Crunchbang on the boot selection, GRUB2 would show up with Windows there13:23
k1l_tvillerealest: multiarch is enabled by default. so if you install something its already in mulltiarch13:23
UrielVigilantwich app i should use to synch ubuntu 13.10 and my tablet android icecream sanwich ?13:23
reisioVivekananda: so?13:23
subz3r0UrielVigilant: rsync13:23
tvillerealestthat makes sense13:23
razzledazzleso I thought if I choose Windows in that GRUB2 menu, Windows would normally start and I set the Windows boot selection wait time to 013:23
reisiorazzledazzle: it's weird, you need to fix your grub cfg13:24
Vivekanandareisio: so where is the backup created which will be restored13:24
UrielVigilantsubz3r0: thank you13:24
reisioUrielVigilant: sync what exactly?13:24
k1l_razzledazzle: ask the crunchbang support!13:24
reisioVivekananda: you don't really need a backup13:24
razzledazzleokay, I shut up13:24
razzledazzlethanks guys.13:24
UrielVigilantreisio: synch data and apps etc . .13:24
Vivekanandareally ? but I remember that earlier versions of ubutu required to create a back up and restore it13:24
reisioUrielVigilant: try andftp, you can use it with sshd (on Ubuntu)13:25
reisioover wireless13:25
Vivekanandagrub 1 mostly13:25
bekksVivekananda: No, grub 1 never required that.13:25
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reisioVivekananda: you don't really need a backup of the mbr, but I can tell you how to make one if you like13:25
UrielVigilantreisio: what it is sshd ?13:25
subz3r0reisio: pretty nice app. especialla the ADS inside13:25
subz3r0sshDaemon13:25
reisioUrielVigilant: sshd is the ssh daemon, it's the ordinary way to access Unix systems remotely13:25
reisiosubz3r0: what?13:25
subz3r0reisio: like i said... pretty nice app... especially the ADS ...13:26
UrielVigilantreisio: kind of -           sudo apt-get install andftp         ?13:26
reisiosubz3r0: what do you like about ads?13:26
reisioUrielVigilant: andftp would be for and-roid13:26
reisioand sshd for ubuntu13:26
UrielVigilantreisio: thank you13:27
subz3r0reisio: you didnt get it, do you?13:27
reisiosubz3r0: not yet13:27
subz3r0andsmb, and ftp is crap!13:27
subz3r0andftp13:27
reisioit's not crap, does exactly what it says it does13:27
subz3r0reisio: so any reason why not using rync?13:27
reisioand I don't recall any ads, either13:28
reisiosubz3r0: why not using rsync on android?13:28
subz3r0reisio: thats maybe because your phone is rooted and youre using a firewall13:28
reisiosubz3r0: maybe in a world other than this one13:28
reisioandroid is about ads, though13:28
reisioso I'm sure he's used to them, even though andftp hasn't any IME13:29
g105bIs there any way I can re-add my user to root without rebooting? I'm ok with logging off, but I can't reboot.13:32
g105b(the root group)13:32
subz3r0g105b: you dont need to reboot13:32
subz3r0relogin should does the trick13:32
g105bsubz3r0: I have tried, hasn't done it... I accidentally forgot the -a flag on usermod ... removed main user from all groups :S13:33
reisiog105b: su - user13:33
reisiooh13:33
UrielVigilantDo you think it worse to use Ubuntu in our tablets like end users ? Will be possible to install ubuntu on a samsung gt-s8500 that comes with BADA ?13:33
reisioso you can't sudo?13:33
g105breisio: correct13:33
reisioUrielVigilant: bada?13:33
WinstonSmithhi. on newer kernels my laptop keyboard does not work. i have a keybord device in /proc/bus/input/devices and udev generates input and event files in /sys/class/input. any ideas why the keyboard does not work? or where i could look for pointers?13:33
reisioah bada13:34
reisioUrielVigilant: it depends on the hardware and more importantly whether it has any secure boot13:34
reisiog105b: no, you'd have to reboot13:34
k1l_UrielVigilant: for ubuntu-touch questions better ask in #ubuntu-touch13:34
reisiog105b: unless you gave root a password13:34
subz3r0g105b: "sudo adduser username root" then "newgrp root"13:34
NuSueyhow can I add   Option     "SWCursor"       "ON in 13.10? o.O thought if it would help me to deal with the dissapearing mouse problem during wine -  games13:35
reisiog105b: or if you still have a term open from before you removed the groups13:35
g105bsubz3r0: but ... it needs sudo?13:35
UrielVigilantreisio: thank you veru much13:35
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subz3r0g105b: no other user addet which is added to /etc/sudoers file?13:35
subz3r0t/d13:35
g105bI was wondering if there was any root command automatically run on login that I could add the line to?13:35
reisiog105b: you can get root at login, after a reboot13:36
reisiog105b: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto#How_do_I_enter_single-user_mode.3F13:37
g105breisio: how do i do that?13:37
reisiojust said13:37
kaunHello!13:38
g105breisio: after a reboot ... then what?13:38
reisio'This hasn't changed. Choose the "(recovery mode)" option from GRUB; add "-s", "S" or "single" to the kernel command-line; or from a running machine, run "telinit 1" or "shutdown now". '13:38
cfhowlettkaun, greetings!13:38
reisiokaun: hi13:38
kaunAtm. i am trying to install Ubuntu on my computer, but i am having a big problem, can some one here help? :-) Mvh13:39
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cfhowlett!details|kaun,13:39
ubottukaun,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:39
g105bBecause I have encrypted FS, holding shift doesn't get into the grub menu ... any ideas?13:41
kaunI have downloaded Ubuntu and burned it to a disc, but when i reboot my computer and choose ubuntu start up instead of windows. It gives me an error13:42
k1l_kaun: which error?13:42
cfhowlettkaun, what error.  details matter.13:42
kaunWhen i choosed Ubuntu it said something like windows couldn't start, this can becaused by a change in the hardware and software13:44
cfhowlettkaun, that's a windows error, not an ubuntu error.13:44
cfhowlettkaun, wait13:44
* cfhowlett hates to ask but ...13:44
Guest61630kaun, boot from the drive13:44
cfhowlettkaun, did you use the windows installer??13:44
kaunNo i did not. Listen. When i installed the ubuntu and rebooted my computer, it gives me 3 options. Windows - Unetbooting - Ubuntu.13:45
kaunSo i choose Ubuntu13:46
kaunAnd i guess there's a problem with my computer from before i tried to install it?13:46
cfhowlettkaun, screenshots please.13:46
Guest61630kaun, when booting your windows machine you press f7 and boot ubuntu from the drive and follow the install instructions13:46
NaczelnikHi. Yesterday I upgraded ubuntu to 13.10. This repair hibernation/sleep when I close my laptop, but I got error as in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1871634 . What I should do? Where go? How diagnostic it?13:47
kaunGuest61630: I will try to press F7 and see what happends.           cfhowlett: I will try to take a screenshot if i am able to, i can't i will write down everything that it says :-) Brb 5 mins.13:48
NaczelnikI don't know why is it closed if nobody resolve this problem.13:48
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Lisa201OMG!  What's going on with Ubuntu?  I just loaded 13.10, and there's huge delays everywhere!13:52
cfhowlettLisa201, it happens.  wait and try later13:53
Lisa201I mean on my own system...13:53
Lisa201I was running Kubuntu, and it was nice, so I thought I'd try the standard 13.1013:53
cfhowlettLisa201, my crystal ball says ... no details, no analysis13:53
Lisa201Just loggin in takes what seems forever now.13:53
Lisa201Opening any apps is slow...13:54
Lisa201Tried the Unity desktop, slow...13:54
Lisa201Tried KDE... slow13:54
Lisa201Tried Gnome3... slow...13:54
cfhowlettLisa201, yeah, see, the thing is, since you've provided no critical details, no one is going to help you so ... details here or gripe elsewhere.13:55
k1l_Lisa201: this is a technical support channel. so if you have a specific support question ask it. dont misuse this channel for ranting13:55
Lisa201OK, well if I knew WHY it was slow, I'd just fix it... thought maybe you guys would have an over-all clue.13:56
dustin_Hey, I'm having a problem with Debian that I can't work out. I'm not getting much of a response on their channel. Basically my wireless doesn't work - I had to install the ipw2200 drivers, but beyond that I don't know what to do. I've never had to set up a network interface before. Can anybody help?13:56
gordonjcpLisa201: what's the spec of the machine you're on?13:56
cfhowlett!details|Lisa201,13:56
ubottuLisa201,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:56
cfhowlettdustin_, debian support this ain't13:56
Lisa201Dell laptop 8G i7.13:56
subz3r0Lisa201: no wonder that its freakin slow you your 286 PC13:56
Lisa20117" gtx550M graphics13:56
subz3r0Lisa201: i would upgrade to 2 MB of RAM13:56
Lisa201I have 8 G now...13:57
dustin_cfhowlett: I realize this13:57
dhanyaI am just a beginner in Ubuntu contribution. Can anyone explain or define what the Upstream tar is and what it is used for ? I googled it but it didn't help.13:57
cfhowlettsubz3r0, 286 with i7?  serioulsy?13:57
subz3r0cfhowlett: did i mention that?13:58
gordonjcpdhanya: it's the tarball from whoever wrote the package13:58
kaunHello i am back13:58
cfhowlettkaun, what's the word?13:58
Guest61630kaun, and?13:58
Lisa201I guess I'll back down to Ubuntu 12.04... It was way faster,13:58
gordonjcpLisa201: 13.10 works okay for me, but I did find I needed to use a fairly chunky machine13:58
Lisa201chunky?13:59
Guest61630chunky?13:59
gordonjcpLisa201: now I've got 2GB of RAM in my 1.6GHz Core 2 Duo, it's fine13:59
simbohey guys. How can I download all packages of Ubuntu via my terminal ?13:59
Guest61630get-apt update13:59
kaunI tried to press F7 and it said: "Reboot and select boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key"13:59
Lisa201Exactly, my system is way faster than yours, so what's with my slow Ubuntu?13:59
cfhowlettsimbo, sudo apt-get packagename is the format13:59
yeatssimbo: what do you mean by "all packages of Ubuntu"?13:59
Guest61630kaun, thatś ok13:59
kaunI couldn't take a screenshot, but i toke one with my phone.13:59
vZorin Os7 vs Linux Mint 15 (cinnamon edition)13:59
kaunAnd here's what it said13:59
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Guest61630kaun, did you select your drive?14:00
simboyeats: The source code, the branches14:00
k1l_v ask that comparison in ##linux14:00
MonkeyDustsimbo  use apt-get install in the terminal14:00
gordonjcpLisa201: no idea, you must be doing something wrong14:00
gordonjcpLisa201: what kind of graphics card?14:00
vkll  : on freenode?14:00
cfhowlett!mint|v14:00
ubottuv: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org14:00
Lisa201It was a fresh reload... formatted the / partition etc.14:00
k1l_Lisa201: drivers for the video card installed?14:00
simbomonkeydust: this wont give me the actual branches will it ?14:01
Lisa201There are no drivers for the gtx55m card... but it has run well with the Intel video drivers.14:01
MonkeyDustsimbo  what do you want to achieve?14:01
k1l_Lisa201: so its a hybrid laptop? did you install bumblebee?14:01
kaunIt said windows couldnt start it could be because of a change in the hardware of software and it tells me to solve the problem by putting windows disc into my drive.14:01
k1l_!bumblebee | Lisa20114:01
vcannot send anything to the channel ,?14:01
k1l_v for freenode support ask in #freenode14:02
Lisa201l Played with bumblebee before, but don't really need it.14:02
Lisa201I*14:02
Guest61630kaun, ok then you have a problem with your drive14:02
kaunGuest61630: How do i select my drive? i only have one :-)14:02
cfhowlettkaun, yep THAT is a windows error message.  If you're getting THAT on selecting ubuntu then something somewhere failed.14:02
simboget the sourcecode to my local machine to optimize some stuff. As it's just a test, I don't want to use launchpad (cause my modifications will probably not be very useful to others)14:02
Guest61630nothing to do with windows or ubuntu14:02
k1l_Lisa201: if you have a intel and a nvidia card you need bumblebee if you dont set to one video card only in the bios14:02
vok.14:02
Lisa201Ya, my bios doesn't have the slection, so I just use the Intel side.14:03
cfhowlettkaun, easy way to test:make another ubuntu USB and try again.14:03
kaunOkay i though so.. Do you nice guys maybe have a soloution for a problem like this?14:03
Lisa201I'm not complaining about the graphics, just how long programs take to load etc.14:03
Guest61630kaun, after you press f7 when booting, you can choose (with the arrows) to boot your machine from the disk or from your cd rom drive or usb drive etc.14:03
k1l_Lisa201: that can be a symptome of wrong video drivers14:03
MonkeyDustsimbo  use apt-get source to get the source code14:03
cfhowlettLisa201, xubuntu and lubuntu are "lighter" and would probably speed things along.  Not quite so much eye candy though14:04
kaunCfhowlett: should i pyt the file onto a usb?14:04
yeatssimbo: see 'man apt-get' source section for details14:04
Lisa201ok, maybe the intel one changed from 12.10 and the other distro's I've used.14:04
Guest61630if you get the problem you mention, then your cd rom drive is faulty14:04
kaunGuest: No i dont get that options14:04
kaunIt just says what i told wrote you before :-)14:04
cfhowlett!usb|kaun, "put the file"?  ooookay, you need to create a bootable USB14:04
ubottukaun, "put the file"?  ooookay, you need to create a bootable USB: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent14:04
Guest61630kaun, that is not possible.... you should be able to press (and hold!!) f714:04
Lisa201I used to boot Ubuntu 12.04 in about 15 seconds to the logon prompt.14:04
Guest61630then you will get a small blue screen with booting options14:05
Lisa201Now it's like a minute and a half.14:05
Guest61630disk / drive / usb / 2nd disk etc14:05
yeats!bootchart | Lisa20114:05
ubottuLisa201: bootchart charts your machine at boot time, to install >> sudo apt-get install bootchart << the graphic is in /var/log/bootchart after the next reboot14:05
yeatsLisa201: ^^ that will show you what's taking so long with boot time14:05
Lisa201OK!  Great, how do I use it exactly?14:05
yeatsLisa201: install the package and reboot14:06
kauncfhowlett, i will look at those links and see how i will do it :-)14:06
kaunGuest61630: I haven't tried holding it down. Maybe i should go14:06
cfhowlettkaun, what windows version by the way?14:06
kaunWindows 714:06
Guest61630yes kaun, try again, press f7 untill you get options14:07
cfhowlettkaun, really shouldn't be choking up.  I'm guessing you scrambled things somewhere. see the dual boot link14:07
cfhowlett!dualboot14:07
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot14:07
Lisa201OK, installed bootchart... so I just reboot and then enter that command in a root terminal?14:07
Lisa201I'll go try it...14:09
MarkDavisHi14:09
Lisa201Thanks!14:09
yeatsLisa201: no - it creates a graphic that will be in /var/log/bootchart14:09
cipherboyCurrently I am having problems with my intrenet adapters. One is a wired connection to the router, which works fine, except ifconfig and conky do not display any usage stats (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6312474/) .  My wireless adapter cannot connect to the network, and it seems to be spamming dmesg (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6312470/). Ideas?14:09
Lisa201so just run bootchart when I'm logged back on?14:09
WinstonSmithto whom it may concern: solution was to add i8042.nopnp to my kernel boot options14:09
yeatsLisa201: no ;-) it will run as you boot and create the chart automatically14:09
MarkDavisI want to burn a disc with ubuntu, but I also want to have the session left open. Do I have to check any special options?14:09
MarkDaviswith K3b, that is14:09
MarkDavisThere is: Multi-session mode - auto14:10
Lisa201Ya, I mean to see the results?14:10
Guest61630MarkDavis, no you should be fine.14:10
yeatsLisa201: open the file manager and browse to /var/log/bootchart14:10
MarkDavisGuest61630: thank14:10
MarkDavisthanks14:10
Lisa201rgr, thanks!14:10
kaunOkay, i'll try reboot and hold down F7 first, if that doesn't make i'll try the USB :-) How does that sound?14:11
Guest61630like a plan kaun14:11
Guest61630;)14:11
chromy keyboard is not working after upgrading to ubuntu 13.10. What can I do?14:13
Guest61630chro, tried *tchecking eayboard layout top right corner?14:14
cfhowlett!mactel>me14:14
chrono14:15
chrobut it's not the layout14:15
sha1sumchro: is this a built-in laptop keyboard or an external keyboard of some sort?14:15
chrosha1sum, built-in keyboard. It does not work with the latest kernel, just with the 3.814:16
chroI have to go to the advanced boot options14:16
kaunSo i tried to hold down F7 in every screen i could get, and nothing happend at all :-(14:16
kaunI'll give the USB a try :-)14:16
cipherboyIdeas on networking problems?14:17
cfhowlettcipherboy, details, people, DETAILS!14:17
cipherboycfhowlett: Currently I am having problems with my intrenet adapters. One is a wired connection to the router, which works fine, except ifconfig and conky do not display any usage stats (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6312474/) .  My wireless adapter cannot connect to the network, and it seems to be spamming dmesg (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6312470/). Ideas?14:18
chrosha1sum, this is what happens to me: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362402/usb-keyboard-does-not-load-after-13-10-upgrade14:18
sha1sumchro: what kernel version are you using?14:18
sha1sum(the broken one)14:18
everaldHello. How do I report a bug (segfaulting python app, openshot) in Ubuntu? I know Debian very well, there you would use reportbug, but that's not in Ubuntu it seems?14:18
chrosha1sum, 3.8.0-31-generic14:18
cfhowlettcipherboy, does it fail only on this connection or ALL wifi connections?14:18
chrosha1sum, the broken one is the latest 3.1114:19
cfhowlett!bug|everald,14:19
ubottueverald,: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.14:19
chro3.11.0-12-generic14:19
cipherboyBut sure: 13.10, 3.11.0-12-generic, AMD64. Devices: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6312520/14:19
cipherboycfhowlett: There are two separate routers in range, fails on connecting to both. Windows 8.1 works to connect. Its a desktop, so I can't exactly move it to test other networks.14:20
everaldDoes launchpad use the same password as Ubuntu One?14:20
chrosha1sum, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/123819414:21
ubottuUbuntu bug 1238194 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Saucy) "keyboard doesn't work to enter password with encrypted partitions ubuntu 13.10 saucy" [Critical,Fix committed]14:21
cfhowlettcipherboy, ow.  OK, good description!  Ask also on #ubuntu-server if no solution in this channel14:21
everaldI guess the answer is no.14:21
sha1sumchro: do you have an external keyboard you can use to get debug output?14:21
chrosha1sum, no I don't have :\14:22
cfhowletteverald, it can be configured to do so.  just use your open ID on all such accounts and you're golden14:22
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ddshoreI'm trying to resize an encrypted partition, but the instructions I'm following (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions) changed from using 5G to 5.6G.  Does anyone know if this change is accidental?14:23
aadeeshHello. I installed 13.10 AMD64 dual booting with Windows 7 64bit. The wallpaper remains only black and is not changed from Appearance settings. The wallpaper is updated on the lock screen but not when logged in. Any help?14:23
rachocipherboy, maybe relevant to your situation https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/+bug/124486614:23
ubottuUbuntu bug 1244866 in indicator-network (Ubuntu) "On 3.11-12 and 3.11-11 Wi-Fi not connect" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:23
sha1sumchro: hmmm... You might be looking at bugs that are not the same as the ones you're experiencing. Might be the same, or might not, but you'd need to get some debug information *while booted into* the broken kernel, and the only way I can think of to do that is to find an external keyboard to use.14:25
chrosha1sum, ok I will try to do that14:26
chrorebooting...14:26
chrobrb14:26
cipherboyracho: Interesting, seems I have a number of similar lines in syslog including (<info> (wlan0): device state change: config -> failed (reason 'SSID not found') [50 120 53])14:28
sha1sumaadeesh: I use kde, but possibly this will help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/262373/why-cant-i-change-the-wallpaper-in-gnome-shell-and-unity14:29
cuddylierIs it possible to zip multiple files into a single zip archive?14:30
cuddylierI can only find the command to zip a folder or a single file14:30
cfhowlettcuddylier, of course!14:30
cuddylierHow would I do it? I can't find the command anywhere on google14:30
aadeeshsha1sum: I'll check that. But I faced a similar problem with 12.04.3 but that got resolved by chown my \home.14:31
cipherboyCurrently installing the latest 3.12.0 and 3.11.6 kernels off the ppa.14:32
jackcuddylier, zip fullpath/bla fullpath/blurp14:32
cuddylierWould that zip only the files inside that path rather than all the folders as well?14:32
jackgives youoe .zip with bothfiles14:32
sha1sumcuddylier: I just took a look on the man page for the zip command and it looks like "zip -u" (-u for update)14:32
jack*one14:32
sha1sumcuddylier: http://linux.die.net/man/1/zip14:32
ddshoreI'm trying to resize an encrypted volume on my computer, but the live cd instructions that exist aren't really clear.  After deleting the swap partition, he adds .6G to his physical partition; is he adding the swap?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions14:32
sha1sumcuddylier: or possibly "zip -g" for "grow"14:33
sha1sumI'm assuming -g just adds the files and -u will add files and update any of them that already exist and have been modified since last added14:33
aadeeshsha1sum: That worked! Thank You.14:34
cuddylierjack How does the command 'zip fullpath/bla fullpath/blurp' know what to call the zip?14:34
matt444Hi, any help installing Ubuntu on a head14:35
matt444headless server?14:35
cfhowlettmatt444, on a head?  no.  you need the whole body...14:35
cfhowlett!ubuntu-server|matt444,14:35
ubottumatt444,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server14:35
matt444;-)14:35
sha1sumcfhowlett: haha. Classic.14:36
matt444What I mean is the server has no monitor support14:36
cipherboyI will be back to check whether it works with this new kernel.14:37
sha1summatt444: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetworkConsole14:38
matt444thanks14:39
l4linux.#fedora14:40
sha1summatt444: actually now that I'm reading that there still has to be some kind of network configuration at the machine... May want to look into the kickstart installation: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html <-- for 10.04, but possibly the same type of process for newer versions14:40
HenesyAlright mates, I installed nvidia-319 via simple apt-get install, now brightness controls don't work period, not even in /sys/call/backlight14:42
cipherboy_Alright, tested the 3.12.0 kernel, didn't fix it. Hm..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6312628/14:44
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l4linux?14:45
l4linuxhelp14:45
l4linux-help14:45
l4linuxhow to log into other IRC channel?14:45
bob_try /join #fedora14:45
l4linuxthank you bob_14:45
bob_np14:45
FrameFeverhow can I get the diskusage of all subfolders in a current directory?14:47
FrameFeverdisk usage14:47
FrameFeverbut without printing recursively all subfolders14:48
zykotick9FrameFever: i like "du -sh *", or ncdu myself.14:48
sha1sumFrameFever: ls -AF | grep \/ | xargs du -sh14:49
sha1sumFrameFever: http://www.toomanyredirects.com/listing-all-subdirectories-with-file-sizes-in-linux/14:49
sha1sumif you're going to be using it frequently, I would recommend setting up an alias for it like that page indicates14:49
FrameFeverzykotick9: looking into the documentation of du14:51
FrameFever-s  display only a total for each argument14:51
FrameFeverI mean seriously what does this mean?14:52
zykotick9FrameFever: i do like sha1sum's suggestion, as it does hidden directories as well...  (fyi ncdu does as well)14:52
WheelmanYeah ladies and gentlemen..screw you all whatever,whenever,wherever and whoever you are.14:53
FrameFeverzykotick9: yea, but this docu?14:54
FrameFeverit does not describe what I get14:54
zykotick9FrameFever: summarize.... how it that confusing?  it doesn't recurively list into the directories...14:55
sha1sumI didn't know the answer to the question, so I looked it up, which is why I like helping support on these channels. Learn something new every day :D14:55
sha1sumFrameFever: maybe I misunderstood. Do you not want it to give you totals recursively or do you just not want it printing every folder recursively?14:56
FrameFeverI want the size of all directoriey inside the current directories14:57
FrameFeverbut of course without printing all subdirectories14:57
FrameFeverthats useless14:57
sha1sum-s basically totals all of the sizes of the folders recursively, but doesn't display each one.14:57
hitsujiTMOFrameFever: try adding the -d1 flag14:58
FrameFeveryeah i know this now, but with this docu. " display only a total for each argument"14:58
FrameFeverit woudn't possible14:58
FrameFeveru: warning: summarizing conflicts with --max-depth=114:59
sha1sumI don't see any way around it having to be vague like that because you can either pass it an argument within the du command or pipe it an argument or use xargs... hence "argument"14:59
sha1sumFrameFever: max-depth=1 will not give you the *total* of all of the recursive folders, hence you can't exactly summarize anything15:00
sha1sum--max-depth=1 should give you only the size of the subdirectory's files, not recursing.15:01
hitsujiTMOFrameFever: what directory are you trying to look at the disk usage for?15:03
FrameFeverhitsujiTMO: does this matter?15:03
FrameFeverin my home directory15:03
FrameFeverI want to find the diretory with the biggest size15:03
sha1sumFrameFever: so I'm not understanding how that command that I first offered won't work... ?15:04
zykotick9FrameFever: install ncdu, it will show you - in order!15:04
hitsujiTMOFrameFever: ah, ok ... thought you might be giving out about trying it on / and seeing all the sub dirs because you do not have permission to read them15:04
bob_FrameFever, try baobab15:04
cariverihi. apt-get,apport and others  are damaged after install kde on 13.04. what can I do?15:06
hitsujiTMOcariveri: what do you mean by damaged?15:06
cariverihitsujiTMO: it does not work. apt-cache does not display anything. install and removing seems to start but returns very fast to the prompt without having done anything.15:07
sha1suminteresting.15:08
hitsujiTMOcariveri: seems like your apt-cache is corrupt15:08
cariverihitsujiTMO: yes. what can I do?15:08
hitsujiTMOcariveri: start with; sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update15:09
sha1summethinks more was going on than just a simple kde install heh15:10
cariverihitsujiTMO: all crashes just returned and Ign http://security.ubuntu.com raring-security/universe Translation-de15:10
cariveriSegmentation fault (core dumped)15:10
sha1sumouch.15:11
hitsujiTMOcariveri: try: dpkg-reconfigure apt15:11
cariveriI think something went wrong while apt was installing the kde package :(15:11
hitsujiTMOcariveri: then try apt-get update again15:12
sha1sumcariveri: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/*.bin15:12
simoneciao15:12
sha1sumcariveri: then run the apt-get update15:12
hitsujiTMOsimone: DO NOT !list15:13
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cariveristill seg faulting. and Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'test -x /usr/bin/apt-show-versions || exit 0 ; apt-show-versions -i'15:15
cariveriE: Sub-process returned an error code15:15
Vivekanandahey everyone. I installed unetbootin and I have 12.04 iso downloaded and verified. Now how do I use unetbootin to create a live usb for the lts ? on openinng unetbootin I see no options for the 12.04 under "Distribution"15:16
cariverihitsujiTMO: so the problem is still there.15:17
sha1sumcariveri: did you remove the .bin files in /var/cache/apt/ ?15:17
cariverisha1sum: there wasnt any15:17
sha1sumk15:17
hitsujiTMOcariveri: i have never seen such an issue with apt before to be honest15:18
hitsujiTMOcariveri: seems to be more than just a corrupt cache15:18
cariveriin deed.15:18
everaldHello. Sometimes the menu in the top right corner of unity, which contains the log out and reboot entries, just vanishes. Howcome, how to bring it back?15:18
cariverihitsujiTMO: I noticed kubuntu-desktop also updated the grub. perhaps that measn soemthing?15:20
hitsujiTMOcariveri: a grub config should have no interference with apt15:20
sha1sumOne forum poster I just read solved the segfault problem by increasing the cache limit... not sure if that's going to help in this instance.15:21
cariverihow to?15:21
cariveriman apt-cache15:22
sha1sumcariveri: try the steps listed here: http://aziest.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/how-to-increase-your-apt-cache-limit/15:23
sha1sumI've never had to mess with it, but I guess anything is worth a try for you at this point.15:23
JpmhI am attempting to install 12.4 on a Dell laptop - I have done this many times.  I am getting the messageubi-partman failed with exit code 10.  What does this mean15:23
cariverino. didnt help.15:25
hitsujiTMOjpmh, thats the partition manager ... have you tried restarting the install?15:26
SPEEDWAVEwhy steam os is not free install for ubuntu 12.04?15:28
therazrSPEEDWAVE: Because it is an OS, just like Ubuntu.15:28
hitsujiTMOSPEEDWAVE: steamos is an operating system. which is not even out yet15:29
JpmhhitsujiTMO: I have done nothing other than ask it to re-try and it repeated - I can power down and re-start install I guess - what is this code telling me?15:29
sha1sumcariveri: the only thing I can offer is what I would probably do in this situation, which is backup and reinstall after a few more tedious hours of googling for an answer15:29
SPEEDWAVEtherazr, i mean steam like on linux free to install and free to log-in..15:29
ikoniaSPEEDWAVE: steam client is free for ubuntu, steam OS is a rival OS nothing to do with ubuntu15:30
sha1sumcariveri: did you add any repos before you ran the kde install?15:30
hitsujiTMOJpmh: something failed when creating the partitions. i've seen similar errors before. all you can do is restart the install. if you get the error again there may be a bigger issue15:30
therazrSPEEDWAVE: If you use Ubuntu with Steam, there shouldn't be any difference than using steamOS itself15:31
SPEEDWAVEikonia, ah.. ok now i understand hehhe15:31
ikoniatherazr there should be significant difference15:31
therazrikonia: Why?15:32
ikoniatherazr: because it's a different OS15:32
hitsujiTMOSPEEDWAVE: also, on linux, steam is officially only supported on ubuntu15:32
sha1sumJpmh: can you access /var/log/syslog on a different TTY session to find out what's going on?15:33
therazrikonia: Yes I know. I meant it shouldn't provide a different experience in terms of the Steam platform15:33
ikoniatherazr: sure sure15:33
sha1sumnot even sure there are TTY sessions on an install CD, never tried it15:33
hitsujiTMOtherazr: that is dependant... it may provide its own set of drivers.15:33
Jpmhsha1sum: don't know - just booted and ran gparted from a live stick and see that there is an issue on the Windoze partition that I want to overwite anyway, am booting the old Windoze right now and will run chkdsk15:34
rlyI compiled a custom kernel by following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild -- Kernel Build and Installation --. After the sudo reboot action, there is no grub entry for the newly built kernel. Why is this the case?15:34
hitsujiTMOrly: did you run update-grub ?15:35
SPEEDWAVEguys i just download this  steam_latest(1).deb i dont know how to install this, can you help me about this...15:35
rlyhitsujiTMO: yes15:35
therazrhitsujiTMO: Very unlikely. Valve won't create a new display server I believe... I would say they will use X, so the drivers are the same we have now15:35
sha1sumJpmh: I suppose this is a silly question when discussing a dell laptop, but the thing doesn't have an RAID setup does it? (I'm laughing right now, but why not ask?)15:35
therazrSPEEDWAVE: It's just double-clicking on it, then the Ubuntu Software Center will pop up and then click Install, to install it15:35
SPEEDWAVEok i try15:36
ikoniaSPEEDWAVE: I'd suggest at least reading the basic documentation on oit15:36
ikoniait15:36
Okitainsha1sum: there should be, absolutely, tty sessions.15:36
Jpmhsha1sum: this is an OLD laptop - 1G of memory though and runs GREAT from the USB stick15:36
Jpmhbiut no RAID15:36
rlyAre there *working* instructions for building and installing in grub a custom kernel on Ubuntu?15:36
hitsujiTMOrly: what version kernel did you build and what version are you using?15:36
rlyhitsujiTMO: how is the latter even relevant?15:37
saliakI'm having issues with permissions in a shared directory (for a git server).  Not sure what i'm missing as i've done this before in the exact same way.  setup a group, gitusers, and set group ownership of the directory (/home/git), with g+rwx.  when i try to have a member of the group create a subdir (/home/git/foo.git) it fails.. http://pastebin.com/s9KhADBs.  any ideas?15:37
ikoniarly: just add the custom kernel to the grub menu, what part isn't clear ?15:37
ikoniarly: the version of grub is quite important15:37
rlyikonia: update-grub is supposed to pick it up automatically, no?15:37
rlyikonia: grub215:37
SPEEDWAVEikonia, hehehe i though i have to apt-get install hehehe!!! i just confuse.. hehehe15:37
rlyI ran update-grub2 too.15:37
OkitainSPEEDWAVE: you may, it's just boldly stupid.15:38
rlyhitsujiTMO: kernel version 3.1215:38
SPEEDWAVEOkitain, hehehe im just a beginner15:38
hitsujiTMOrly: from what i've seen update-grub will only add entries for the newest of kernels, if you compiled an older one then the newer ones will take precedence15:38
ikoniarly: if you look at the the rules in /etc/default/grub you can see the pattern matching it does to see a "valid" kernel15:38
cariverisha1sum: aint the something like a repair disk for such cases?15:38
rlyikonia: ok, great.15:38
rlyNow, if someone with an account could add that to the wiki....15:39
rlyikonia: in my default/grub file I see no such pattern defined.15:40
jKlausHey all.. could anyone possibly help me determine what is going on with my audio?  I worry that there is a problem with the hardware as I don't believe I have modified the OS at all since the last time the audio worked fine15:40
ikoniarly: really, it should have a list of directories/files it's searching15:40
ikoniarly: then the individual rules should be in /etc/grub.d (from memory)15:40
SPEEDWAVEOkitain, yah... i think i have to read those document...15:41
loostrohi, I have trouble starting supervisor service  "Starting supervisor: Error: Another program is already listening on a port that one of our HTTP servers is configured to use.  Shut this program down first before starting supervisord." error15:42
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cariverithanks a lot anyways!15:42
sha1sumcariveri: you could re-install over the existing installation. Basically without formatting15:42
cariverisha1sum: I would have to reinstall all the software right?15:43
OkitainSPEEDWAVE: so is the installation working?15:43
sha1sumcariveri: it will keep the applications where possible I believe.15:43
SPEEDWAVEOkitain, yah.. its working and now its updating thanks a lot.. hehehe..15:44
sha1sumcariveri: I would still back up your stuff, though.15:44
rlyikonia: I can't say that this helps.15:44
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zipperUh how can I install the latest version of texlive on ubuntu? I got one which is from 2009 just yesterday from the repos.15:44
zipperI want the 2013  textlive.15:44
cariverisha1sum: I dont know how to back it up. /home/ is on a seperate partition anyways.15:45
saliakagh, needed to logout/in15:45
cariverisha1sum: and package usually spread their files. its not that I could jsut copy /usr/bin and everything is there. :(15:46
Okitainzipper: there is a 2012 version that is easily downloadable.15:46
zipperOkitain: how?15:46
sha1sumcariveri: yeah I meant mostly your home directory15:46
zipperOkitain: I ran sudo apt-get install texlive15:46
sha1sumcariveri: like an external drive of some sort, but if you don't have one, I guess you don't have that option :)15:46
Okitainzipper: for 1204, a repo called texlive-backports.15:46
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rymate1234|ubunthi15:47
ikoniarly: in what way ? you should be able to see individual rules the checks it does, and /etc/default/grub shows the base configuration for what's called15:47
cariverisha1sum: how about downloading apt in from the net to install it and then reinstall all the broken other apps?15:47
rymate1234|ubuntI was wonderinnvm15:47
rlyikonia: you mean the script which runs?15:47
zipperOkitain: yeah I am on pangolin15:48
johnjohn101synaptic in 13.10 is jacked.  seems to be running so slow.  is it supported?15:48
ikoniarly: which script ?15:48
rlyikonia: I would be helped more by just knowing the pattern which it expects.15:48
rlyikonia: below /etc/grub.d15:48
Okitainzipper: https://launchpad.net/~texlive-backports/+archive/ppa/15:48
Jpmhso, I booted Windoze - horrible - ran chkdsk to see if it fixed the partition table - then re-tried my install - same ubi-partman error - any ideas?15:48
ikoniarly: the numbers show the order, eg: 00 = first 01 = second, 08 = third, it's sequential15:48
therazrzipper: https://launchpad.net/~texlive-backports/+archive/ppa most recent one I could find15:49
rlyikonia: yes, but I just want the custom kernel to come up automatically without me configuring it manually.15:49
ikoniarly: you shouldn't need to configure it manually, that's the reason for the dynamic grub config generation15:49
rlyikonia: so, the question is: how can I configure it such that I don't need to do anything manually?15:49
rlyikonia: the instructions on that wiki are not correct.15:50
rlyikonia: that's why I am asking here.15:50
rlyDistributing an OS on which no custom kernels can be build is not useful.15:50
ikoniarly: in what way not correct, and to be honest, I don't like those instructions that tell it to do a deb build even if it fails15:50
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ikoniarly: custom kernels can be built fine - it's nothing to do with the OS15:51
rlyikonia: they are not correct in that no grub entries come up.15:51
ikoniarly: those instructions in my view are not the best process to follow.15:51
rlyikonia: I already know that.15:51
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rlyikonia: can you also say something constructive?15:51
ikoniarly: they could be correct - it depends on if your kernel build was sucessfull, which those instructions don't check15:51
ikoniarly: drop the attitude15:51
rly\exists x, instructions(x) and not_good(x)15:52
marlo #tinc15:52
rlyTrue, but not very useful.15:52
ikoniarly: I don't believe point 8 is a wise approach15:52
rlyikonia: I am trying to extract a useful response from you.15:52
sha1sumdrop the attitude and get some aptitude lol15:52
sha1sum"extract": what a lovely way to put it15:52
therazrlol15:52
ikoniarly: I'll leave you to it then15:52
rlyikonia: but all you do is repeat trivial statements.15:52
rlyikonia: the question is clear.15:53
rlyikonia: you just don't want to answer it.15:53
marlotrying to install on win-2008 server, getting "no windows tap device found"... is there some unusual requirement for 2008 server?15:53
deadman36gcan this script ls -F | grep . | while read line; do mktorrent -a "http://announce/url" -p "$line"; done be editied to not included the file extension in the torrent file?15:53
rlyThis leaves me at why you are even here pretending to answer questions in the first place.15:53
ikoniarly: what ? of course I do, that's why I'm working it through with you15:53
alamihello, i want to backup and newinstall ubuntu, i have backup all my data, and i don't know what else i have to backup??15:54
sha1sumalami: you may want to back up some files in /etc depending on what configurations you've customized.15:54
marlosorry wrong channel15:54
sha1summarlo: I was wondering ;)15:54
marlolol15:54
marloit's early15:54
marloand sunday15:54
therazrmarlo: lol15:54
alamisha1sum:yes i mean for google chrome, thunderbird and so on??15:55
therazrmarlo: But Ubuntu is a good replacement for that win-server I tell you :D15:55
marloif only...15:55
sha1sumalami: those should all be in the home directory for your user, preceeded by a period.15:55
marloneed to run some win 'server' apps, no choice!15:55
sha1sumalami: which are normally hidden for most file managers... You may want to make sure you back those up by showing hidden files and folders15:55
alamisha1sum: i have only to copy paste this folder? for example for thunderbird?15:56
sha1sumalami: yes... the safest way to go about it is to just copy and paste the entire folder under /home/ for your user15:56
sha1sumwhich will copy everything in it, hidden files and folders included15:57
alamisha1sum: i have never try that, i tought i have to make same configuratoin?15:57
sha1sumalami: the configuration for most of the applications are just in those hidden folders... there are some global "system-wide" configurations in /etc/, such as if you have any servers configured like apache web servers and the like15:58
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sha1sumalami: having them in the user's home folder makes it possible to have the different configurations for different users, all portable... In other words, it's set up that way specifically for what you're trying to do, which is save your custom configurations15:59
zipperSay I have added the ppa texlive backports to my /etc/sorces.list and ran `apt-get update` how do I then get the file texlive from it? and do I have to uninstall the current texlive?15:59
zipperNever mind16:00
zipperI have the answer.16:00
alamisha1sum:if i backup .thunderbird folder, can i restor all my e-mails from it?16:00
daniel156161Hi16:00
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Patero-ngdoes ubuntu server gets the time from stored files or from the bios? cause I did ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com yesterday and now is telling me it's 6 hours later then it is help16:00
therazrzipper: If texlive is installed, just upgrade. Otherwise just install it :S16:01
sha1sumalami: yes. could be .thunderbird and could also be .thunderbird16:01
sha1sumalami: which should also save all of the account information as well16:01
sha1sumalami: sorry I meant could be .thunderbird and could also be .mozilla-thunderbird16:02
daniel156161Hi16:02
zippertherazr: I just ran `apt-get install texlive` and it will upgrade automatically.16:03
alamisha1sum: aha so no need to open thunderbird, and serach for import/export e-mails?16:03
therazrzipper: You should run a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' from that repo16:04
Jordan_UPatero-ng: Are you dual booting with Windows? Have you booted Windows since running ntpdate?16:04
sha1sumPatero-ng: could be the time zone that's set up or it could be that you need to write the time to the BIOS using "sudo hwclock --systohc"16:04
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sha1sumnot sure if ntpdate takes care of the hardware clock or not16:04
johnjohn101ever since upgrading to 13.10 from 13.04 synaptic is basically unusable. is that anything I can try to fix it?16:04
Patero-ngsha1sum: good point16:05
Patero-ngJordan_U: no I haven't got into windows yet16:05
jackstrarHi, I have just downloaded a wifi driver for my adapter and need to know how I can build the tar.gz file in ubuntu asuming it is on my desktop16:05
Patero-ngsha1sum: so does ubuntu gets the current time from bios when I don't have time servers16:06
sha1sumjackstrar: a tar.gz file is basically compressed files, something like a zip file. You should be able to open it and extract the files.16:06
sha1sumjackstrar: then the installation procedure depends on the way the developers intended it to be installed. Instructions may be in a file similar to the name "README" or "INSTALL"16:07
jackstrarok that makes sense but how do i install it since it does not include a .exe file16:07
sha1sumjackstrar: some developers are notoriously bad about writing the installation documentation. Hopefully yours were not :)16:07
sha1sumjackstrar: .exe files are mostly exclusive to Windows (and DOS if they're ancient)16:08
sha1sumennaa is spamming channel members, btw16:08
reisiojackstrar: what's this you're trying to install?16:08
sha1sum!ops16:08
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jackstrarthere is a file called "makefile" is that any good?16:08
sha1sumwhoops I don't know if this classifies as an "emergency"16:09
jackstrarits a broadcom wifi adapter driver (proprietary)16:09
sha1sumjust didn't know if you wanted people going around spamming16:09
jKlausanyone have an issue of their computer always porting audio to the headphone jack16:09
reisiosha1sum: not your fault the bot is spammy :p16:09
reisiojackstrar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Configure_script16:09
k1l_sha1sum: use this bot-command only for emergencies. you can report pm-spammers in #ubuntu-ops all the time or talk to the channel-mods if needed16:10
sha1sumthanks -- my bad :)16:10
reisiomeanwhile, spammer still in channel16:11
sha1sumI closed the query so I can't even provide proof lol16:11
reisiosome of the more interesting spam I've seen16:11
reisioit's a webcam of a goldfish aquarium16:11
sha1sumoh lovely16:11
reisiooh, there's another type of fish16:11
k1l_reisio: you know the rules. please keep that comments of that channel. if you have something to ad please talk to the mods in #ubuntu-ops16:11
reisioyou just said we could talk to channel mods about spammers16:12
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k1l_reisio: not in here. this is a support channel16:12
reisiooooooh16:12
sha1sumk1l_: sorry I interrupted your flow :P16:12
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IdleOnereisio: would you be so kind to tell me who is sending the spam PM's?16:15
sha1sumIdleOne: already gone. Was ennaa16:15
IdleOneah, ok thanks sha1sum16:15
reisiowhat he said16:16
sha1sumMeanwhile, in the world of Ubuntu support...16:16
* sha1sum takes support off of pause16:17
asdf__hallo16:18
mrafiqhi16:20
frxstremI have a computer (about 10 years old, running XP) that I have to repurpose with Ubuntu, with a user interface simple enough that my 70-some-year-old grandma can use it -- any pointers to Ubuntu-based distros or software I can use to set it up to be both very user friendly and lightweight?16:21
ikoniafrxstrem: you're only really target is lubuntu16:21
hitsujiTMOfrxstrem: you'd be better off with lubuntu or xubuntu16:21
theadminfrxstrem: Lubuntu is very lightweight. User-friendly enough too... As much as it gets with these lightweight distros anyway16:21
k1l_!lubuntu | frxstrem16:21
ubottufrxstrem: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.16:21
therazr10 years old is a lot. Tell the Processor and RAM of it16:21
ikoniaa fair point16:22
frxstrem1.4 GHz, 512 MB RAM (I think, haven't checked)16:22
ikoniaagain back to lubuntu16:22
theadminLubuntu will run nicely on this16:22
jKlausSo Alsa mixer is showing the "Speaker" volume being muted when I plug the headphones in and shows the volume going back up to 100 when I unplug the headphones but I still do not get any audio out of the speakers16:23
jKlausanyone have any thoughts?16:23
frxstremas I suspected, but my biggest concern is that Lubuntu's interface might be too complicated (I'd want something with big, simple buttons or something like that)16:24
therazrikonia: Does that system support PAE already?16:24
theadminfrxstrem: Eh, well... Ubuntu's default interface is like that but unfortunately it's more heavy than a box like this would pull off..16:25
theadminfrxstrem: Lubuntu is quite easy. Dunno about grandmas though.16:25
reisiofrxstrem: I don't have much experience with LXDE, but Xfce is quite configurable with regard to size of things16:25
otak__frxstrem: lxlauncher if you like blue16:26
zykotick9therazr: does lubuntu require PAE?  kinda silly if it does.16:26
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UrielVigilanti connected ubuntu 13.10 to AV in my tv but it dont detect . What i need to install ?16:27
reisioUrielVigilant: what port is coming out of the computer?16:28
frxstremotak_: oh, I'll look into lxlauncher, looks like what I want16:28
therazrzykotick9: I thought every 32-bit installation using the ubuntu packages required PAE, but I might be wrong :P16:29
johnjohn101i think i figured out why synaptic is running slow.  I stopped my onboard and now it run normally. I need to know what category I should open an issue under.16:29
ikoniayoure onboard what ?16:29
ikoniayour16:29
UrielVigilantreisio: s-video port16:30
zykotick9therazr: actually... i don't "think" you are.  ;)16:30
reisioUrielVigilant: what graphics driver16:30
UrielVigilantintel graphics media acelerator 95016:31
UrielVigilantreisio: i dont know what graphic irvers iam using. but hardware is intel graphics media acelerator 95016:33
ripHi all16:34
ripLooking for some help in resolving a wireless issue ?16:35
brian-mannHey fellas.  I've got two 2tb hard drives in RAID 1 mode.  Prior to creating the RAID I deleted all of their partitions.   Then I formatted the RAID with 1 partition (ext4).  Interestingly though, when I look at Gparted, the original drives both show unformatted.  Is this correct?16:35
hitsujiTMO!details | rip16:35
ubotturip: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."16:35
Jordan_Ubrian-mann: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".16:35
rymate1234my mouse is too fast under linux, even at the lowest speed.16:36
ripok thanks guys, its a strange one so bare with me, its ubuntu 12.04, kernel version 3.2.0-51 intel wireless chip 2230, i have address information from dhcp, i have an arp entry for the gateway, i can ping the stack and the nic with success but cannot ping the gateway or remote networks :(16:37
_raven_xubuntu 13.10 - how to install nautilus 3.4* with all old functions?16:38
hitsujiTMOrip can you give us the output of: ifconfig16:38
UrielVigilantreisio: i have to change graphic driver to be able to reproduce ubuntu on tv ?16:38
hitsujiTMOrip, what are you using to configure the wireless?16:38
reisiorymate1234: http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/xfree/mouse_speed_in_x/16:38
reisiorymate1234: stopgap16:39
sabret00theanyone else getting a 404 on the binary-i386/Packages when trying to upgrade to 14.04 alphas?16:39
ripwlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 60:36:dd:53:3b:6c16:39
rip          inet addr:192.168.1.6  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.016:39
rip          inet6 addr: fe80::6236:ddff:fe53:3b6c/64 Scope:Link16:39
rip          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:116:39
rip          RX packets:58 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:016:39
FloodBot1rip: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:39
rip          TX packets:64 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:016:39
Jordan_U!pastebin | rip16:39
ubotturip: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:39
ripok sorry, just gave the floodbot a heart attack, my apologise16:40
riphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6313275/plain/16:42
ripim not sure if its a routing issue or a driver16:43
hitsujiTMOrip: whats the ouput of: arp16:43
_raven_xubuntu 13.10 - how to install nautilus 3.4* with all old functions?16:43
rip? (192.168.1.1) at 80:b6:86:c3:69:58 [ether] on eth016:44
Jordan_Urip: You have two interfaces on the same network.16:44
hitsujiTMOrip there should be more than 1 line16:44
ripok, if i put the eth0 down though, i still get the same problems16:45
hitsujiTMOrip: can you give the output of arp, there should have been more than one line16:47
ripok sure 2 seconds16:48
riphere is the routing table16:48
riphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6313307/plain/16:48
ripdoing arp now16:48
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ripthis is all i get from arp16:49
riphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6313312/plain/16:49
hitsujiTMOrip can you bring down eth0 and get the routing table again ....16:49
riphitsujiTMO: Sure but i will disconnect temporary be right back16:50
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hitsujiTMOnp16:50
johnjohn101my synaptic/onboard bug is this  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/124447416:50
ubottuUbuntu bug 1244474 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "synaptic crashes when virtual keyboards are loaded" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:50
Jordan_Urip: Please pastebin the output of "route -n" with only one interface active.16:51
ripok here is wlan0 only16:51
riphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6313322/plain/16:51
UrielVigilantsome one know how to make ubuntu reproducing on tv, via s-video to scart  av1 cable ?16:52
hitsujiTMOwhy does wlan have a metric of 2?16:52
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hitsujiTMOrip, how is eth0 configured? dhcp?16:53
ripyes16:53
ripso is wlan016:53
hitsujiTMOrip, not sure whats causing the metric of 2. its quite a bizare oddity16:54
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ripthats what i thought, theres usually a 3rd entry with just wireless but i am not seeing it now16:55
ripi have no idea how to get it working :(16:55
ripi also see this occasionally16:56
rip169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     1000   0        0 eth16:56
hitsujiTMOthats when you get no dhcp reply but link is up16:56
hitsujiTMOcan you show us the output of arp when eth0 is down16:57
ripsure brb16:57
zipperuh could anyone here explain to me how to install moderncv in ubuntu?16:57
k1l_!find moderncv16:57
morsnowskianybody knows a good tv card for use under ubuntu?16:57
ubottuFile moderncv found in lyx-common, texlive-lang-arabic, texlive-lang-french, texlive-latex-extra, texlive-latex-extra-doc, texlive-xetex16:57
Jordan_Urip: It might be worth taking both interfaces down, then bringing just one back up.16:57
k1l_zipper: install texlive-latex-extra16:59
reisiomorsnowski: mythtv keeps a support db, IIRC16:59
ripok here is arp with wlan017:00
riphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6313366/plain/17:00
morsnowskireisio: will check17:00
riphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6313366/plain/17:00
UrielVigilantreisio : now its working using mirror, but it is on black and wite . why ?17:00
_raven_xubuntu 13.10 - how to install nautilus 3.4* with all old functions?17:00
riptried that still no joy17:01
ripcould it be a driver issue ?17:01
reisioUrielVigilant: hrrm?17:01
kyle__Since there's no mir in slutty salamander, will 14.01 have it?17:02
robdogguys i am looking around the distro's and i am trying to find a better vesion for audio production...any advice..17:02
hitsujiTMOrip, what are you getting for the output of with only wlan0: ping 192.168.1.117:02
reisiokyle__: let me find my crystal ball17:02
reisiorobdog: what's the problem?17:02
hitsujiTMOrobdog: have you looked at unbuntu studio?17:02
Jordan_Urip: What is the output of "ping 192.168.1.1"?17:02
k1l_robdog: ubuntu-studio got that as a focus17:02
ripnoting17:03
ripnothing *17:03
zipperk1l_: but I have installed texlive with `apt-get install texlive` Is there a way to add moderncv alone? It's really a large file to download.17:03
robdogwell ubuntu studion is ok but is a little resource heavy and i cant runn pluggins and applications as i would like17:03
intraderHi all, I am trying to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10, but update manager offers 14.04 only17:03
zexcrizthere must be torrent download for ubuntu.17:03
hitsujiTMOrip: you're going to have to get some sort of reply... whats the error17:03
rip2 secs17:03
hitsujiTMOrip can you pastebin the exact error17:03
k1l_intrader: dont use -d as option17:04
andry_test :P17:04
k1l_intrader: set the release prompt to regular (not lts)17:04
Jordan_Uzexcriz: You can only skip releases by going from one LTS release to another, or by re-installing. Ubuntu installation images are available via torrent.17:04
robdogi was thinking using mint 15/16  cinnimon.....   is that lighter in resources?17:04
theadminrobdog: Mint is not a supported derivative.17:04
robdoghmmm... ubuntu based?17:04
zexcrizJordan_U, i can't find ubuntu server 12.04.3 64 bit image to download over torrent17:05
k1l_robdog: for distro comparison ask in ##linux17:05
kyle__reisio: I just figured someone might know or have read a blog post.  Searching for mir & ubuntu right now gives you a ton of slightly dated articles about 13.10.17:05
hitsujiTMOrobdog: no untuntu-studio os xfce based iirc so would be lighter17:05
morsnowskireisio: you wouldn't have a link to that db handy?17:05
k1l_zexcriz: see http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/17:05
morsnowskireisio: ok got it, sorry17:06
reisiokyle__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_%28software%29#Ubuntu17:06
reisiomorsnowski: gj17:06
k1l_kyle__: it was not made default in 13.10 but you could still test it if you like17:06
kyle__reisio: thanks.17:07
kyle__k1l_: I may try that17:07
robdogis there an audio production channel?17:07
k1l_kyle__: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/17:07
hitsujiTMO!alis robdog17:08
hitsujiTMO!alis | robdog17:08
ubotturobdog: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*17:08
LjLrobdog: #ubuntustudio may be of interest17:08
MonkeyDustrobdog  better ask in #ubuntustudio17:08
MonkeyDustLjL  was faster :)17:08
robdogok thank you17:09
DiplomaticoHello, if I use a live cd, what happens to saved changes, installing programs, and more important, downloading files?17:11
reisioDiplomatico: poof17:11
reisiogone17:11
MonkeyDustDiplomatico  they're gone when you reboot17:11
DiplomaticoAh...17:11
DiplomaticoBut,17:11
k1l_Diplomatico: make a persistent live version. that stores the changes17:11
zexcrizk1l_, :017:11
zexcriz:)17:11
Diplomaticoanyway, they do download?, and if they do, where?17:11
MonkeyDustDiplomatico  /usr/bin is the default folder17:12
SchrodingersScatDiplomatico: a liveUSB is a little easier for persistence17:12
Jordan_UDiplomatico: To the directories found at the normal paths, it's just that all of the changes to the filesystem are stored in RAM (specifically an aufs overlay between the read only squashfs image and a read-write tmpfs).17:13
_raven_xubuntu 13.10 - how to install nautilus 3.4* with all old functions?17:13
riphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6313440/plain/17:13
DiplomaticoLive usb is a good option...But I will try the cd anyway.17:13
ripping results17:13
Wiz_KeeDhey guys!17:13
reisiohey wiz17:14
Wiz_KeeDsup reisio ?17:14
reisionot much, sunday17:14
reisiosup with you?17:14
Wiz_KeeDlotta food and sitting around, sunday indeed!17:14
subz3r0!ot > reisio17:14
ubottureisio, please see my private message17:14
Wiz_KeeD!ot > Wiz_KeeD17:14
ubottuWiz_KeeD, please see my private message17:14
reisiosubz3r0: finding out what people want is not off topic17:15
robdogok so i am still a huge newbie here but i cant seem to find what i am looking for can some one point me to it....how do i find the linux rooms?17:15
subz3r0!ot17:15
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:15
* reisio headdesks17:15
reisiorobdog: for what?17:15
subz3r0head -> wall, head -> wall...17:15
Wiz_KeeDXD17:15
Wiz_KeeDDoes anyone know if I buy a laptop with a optical drive and remove it and add the tray that can support a hdd, what transfer speed I will have?17:15
robdogwell i am looking for audio production stuff and what distro is lighter in resources so i can better runn stuff17:15
Jordan_Urobdog: You can make Ubuntu as light as you want it.17:16
robdogubuntu studio isnt cutting it...17:16
DiplomaticoI tried ubuntu studio and the apps weren't good enough, compared to windows.17:16
ripi cant communicate with the router17:17
reisioWiz_KeeD: probably whatever P/ATA does17:17
robdogwell....i want free.. and this is it... the stuff works the way i want it to just studio.. is to resource heavy17:17
reisioWiz_KeeD: depends on the connection17:17
MonkeyDustDiplomatico  use the programs that suit your needs best17:17
Wiz_KeeDI'm curious how I can find out...17:17
DiplomaticoOf course, monkey, that's why i just changed to plain ubuntu.17:17
Jordan_Urobdog: You can either use the minimal install CD to install only the packages you want, or start with Lubuntu as a base.17:18
Wiz_KeeDSince i'm thinking I can get a laptop with a 500gig hdd, take the optical drive, chuck it, and place a ssd in the place of the original one17:18
reisioWiz_KeeD: hdparm17:18
jackrobdog, to and too are two different words17:18
Wiz_KeeDAnd I will be using the other hdd only as storage so it won't matter that much17:18
jack(sorry)17:18
Jordan_Urobdog: Or just install and use LXDE in Ubuntu Studio. All flavors of Ubuntu use the same repositories.17:18
robdoglubuntu would install some things with Ardour and Musescore... i tried already ... lol17:18
reisiorobdog: install a lighter DE on ubuntu studio and use that17:18
robdogi am using lxde17:18
Wiz_KeeDwoah, a lot of arguments reisio :D17:19
reisiorobdog: lxde should be pretty light17:19
reisioWiz_KeeD: yeah17:19
robdoghmmm...17:19
reisioWiz_KeeD: look at -T and -t, IIRC17:19
robdoghaving issues with ram... i got 3 gigs17:19
reisiorobdog: is that the issue?17:19
Jordan_Urobdog: What are you noticing that's "too heavy"?17:19
robdogand the kernal is the real time kernal17:19
Wiz_KeeDPerform device read timings, niceee17:19
Wiz_KeeDI suppose I need some data in it...17:19
Wiz_KeeDlike a cd of any type17:19
jackreisio, i think fluxbox is even lighter17:19
Wiz_KeeDbut optical drive might be slowe than hdd17:20
robdogwell i can runn only 2-3 plugins in ardour befor i start getting xruns and i cant runn ardour and hydrogen together befor massive slowing17:20
reisiojack: course it is17:20
reisiodoes a lot less17:20
robdogi cant17:20
cariverihitsujiTMO: reinstalling apt did not work out: http://pastebin.com/sUQBM2jz17:21
gladosv2Hi guys, not sure if itś the right place to ask - I need pygst on my system but can't figure out what package I need for that17:21
k1l_robdog: are you sure your hardware suits your software needs at all?17:21
intraderkil_ when I use -d it offers 14.0417:21
k1l_intrader: yes, you are misusing the -d17:21
robdogamd turion 64 x2.... 3 gigs ram  ubuntu studio latest with lxde17:21
k1l_intrader: its for "developement release" not for regular upgrade17:21
jackreisio, maybe recommend fluxbuntu then17:22
k1l_robdog: turion is an old cpu17:22
robdogyeah....17:22
jackto ppl like robdog17:22
robdogyeah jack?17:22
reisiojack: he can try fluxbox on whatever he's using already17:22
reisiorobdog: ^17:22
robdogflux box17:22
Flannelintrader: You need to switch yourself from LTS to "every" release.  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades is what you'll edit, change "lts" to "normal".  Then, update-manager (no -d) will upgrade you to 12.10.17:22
riphow can i uninstall the iwlwifi driver and replace it with a new one17:22
jacktrue17:22
k1l_robdog: 2006-2008 and misses alot of the new supports for multimedia that new cpus got17:23
robdogwhats so good about it ?17:23
robdogahh.. ok17:23
reisiorobdog: fluxbox? Being a window manager alone, and not a desktop environment, it will reduce the resources required17:23
reisiobut it also does less17:23
reisioit probably won't free up enough to make a real different, though17:23
reisioif a turion x2 and 3gb of ram isn't enough17:23
robdogok and will it run ardour, mussce and hydrogen17:24
jackdamn easy anyway, to turn onebuntu into anotherbuntu :)17:24
reisioeither ardour/its plugins are quite badly made, or your requirements exceed your hardware17:24
xwalkreisio: Do you think he would be better off with Openbox and a tint2 panel?17:24
reisioxwalk: than with what?17:24
xwalkreisio: Fluxbox17:24
jackxwalk, fluxbox ftw!17:24
reisiofluxbox & openbox are pretty close, so not particularly17:24
reisioand LXDE and openbox are pretty close, too17:25
intraderkil_ bash: cd: /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades: Not a directory17:25
k1l_i dont think another desktop will help him in that case. his requirements exeed his hardware, imho17:25
robdogreisio: would flux box run ardour, muscore, hrydrogen?17:25
k1l_intrader: that is a file, not a folder17:25
Jordan_Urobdog: Any Window Manager will run any normal application.17:26
reisiorobdog: forget about fluxbox, won't help you17:26
robdoghmmm... poop17:26
BlackDexHello there... Is there a Ambiance Theme with dark menu's, also for GTK2+ applications?? It seems that GTK3 has dark menu's, but the GTK2 doesn't...17:26
reisiorobdog: what happens with ardour, again?17:26
intraderkil_ I found release-upgrades.d17:26
robdogmy resources are enough to runn and deal just cant figure whats the deal?17:26
reisioBlackDex: http://art.gnome.org/17:26
xwalkBlackDex: Also, gnome-look.org17:26
k1l_intrader: just go to the software&updates setting in system settings and change in the release-prompt in the 3rd tab into "every update" from "lts only"17:27
jackrobdog, your wm never runs an app17:27
gladosv2Hi guys, not sure if itś the right place to ask - I need pygst on my system but can't figure out what package I need for that17:27
robdogwell it seam to laggy and "heavy"  wich i explain with it not being able to run multiple pluggin and ardour and hydrogen together gets to many xruns17:27
jackit only cooperates (or not)17:27
k1l_!find pygst17:28
ubottuFile pygst found in python-gst0.10, python-gst0.10-dev17:28
SchrodingersScatgladosv2: try an apt-cache search python.gst17:28
SchrodingersScatoh :/17:28
robdogjack: got it... just looking for a lighter" fix or an setting change or soemthing17:28
k1l_gladosv2: see packages File pygst found in python-gst0.10, python-gst0.10-dev17:28
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intraderkil_ after rebooting I get 12.10 offered17:29
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jackrobdog, i think fluxbox or lxde are what you need17:29
robdoghmmm....k17:29
robdogand flux will runn the programs fine?17:29
intraderkil_ I am upgrading- thanks17:29
jacksure17:29
jackit's only a wm17:30
robdogk ill take a look....does it support a RT kernal17:30
robdogahhh.....17:30
jackof course17:30
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xwalkgladosv2: In the future when you're looking for a package you don't know the name of, try using apt-cache search <some search terms>.17:30
robdogWM... i though you were mentioning another distro17:30
gladosv2thanks xwalk, k1l_ and SchrodingersScat :) Seems to be working :D17:30
BlackDexThx.. Found something wich i can use :)17:30
jacknope17:30
robdoghow would i get it?17:30
Wiz_KeeDreisio, and if I'm not mistaking in Ubuntu I can unmount the hdd from the optical bay so it's not active and stay only on ssd which provides much lower power consumption and higher performance, am I right?17:31
SchrodingersScatgladosv2: great17:31
reisioWiz_KeeD: you can power it down most likely, yes17:31
robdogso i can change back and forth?17:31
jackfluxbox = wm, fluxbuntu =ubuntu based on it17:31
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jackyes of course17:31
robdogwhere do i go for it?17:31
reisioWiz_KeeD: if it doesn't on its own, hdparm or sdparm can possibly force it to17:31
Wiz_KeeDSo i'll just setup some bash scripts to run on boot and will open it up only when I need it and I do backups and stuff17:32
jackrobdog, sudo apt-get install fluxbox17:32
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robdogjack: gotcha...17:32
jackor search for a fluxbuntu iso to install from17:33
robdogand do i need to log out to start it? or something?17:33
jackdepends17:33
robdogyeah17:33
robdogk17:33
reisioLXDE is just a glorified openbox already17:33
robdogwill look at it here asap....17:34
jackbut pretty cool, reisio17:34
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xwalkrobdog: Depending on the display manager you're using, any new DE or WM can be selected from the session menu.17:34
k1lrobdog: of course you need to relogin for a desktop change17:34
reisiojack: point being fluxbox likely won't make much of an impact17:34
robdoghmmm ok i am using ubuntu studio......i think its lxde17:35
robdogahhh i see17:35
jackreisio, true - but you know, some ppl like it17:35
robdogdo you guys run audio productio stuff too?17:36
jackardour+audacity17:36
robdogwhat your experience thus far with ardour17:36
Diplomatico(livecd)What about if it's a momentary download, where is it stored, does it delete itself on shutdown?17:36
robdogi got the brand new version ...17:37
subz3r0robdog: friend of mine is using ubuntu studio for professional things... it also works very well with his MPC17:37
robdoghmm...17:37
subz3r0and some other new audio hardware... but no idea what kind of :)17:37
subz3r0im not that into that things. so no idea what the new hardware is17:38
robdogi am trying to use it for pro stuff.. but i was addicted to MAC17:38
subz3r0just remember some "Roland" xy...17:38
middeyHello guys.17:38
middeyI have a problem with my ubuntu 12.04.17:38
middeyI can't use apt-get update. Because some hosts fail to resolv.17:38
middeyBut i can ping them.17:38
middeyHas anyone an idea what the problem can be ?17:38
FloodBot1middey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:38
subz3r0kinda expensive this stuff :)17:38
k1l!paste | middey please put the output there17:38
robdoglol.... yeah.... why i am using ubuntu now..17:39
ubottumiddey please put the output there: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:39
subz3r0robdog: anyways... have fun with making music on linux... gottta take a bath... :)17:40
robdoglol... thank ... k17:40
robdogresio: i see you in the linux channel but i cant type.... whats the deal?17:41
robdogreisio: how do you type in the ##linux channel? wont let me17:42
reisio/msg nickserv help register17:43
reisio/msg nickserv help identify17:43
k1lrobdog: see the /topic in that channel or ask in #freenode for help17:43
robdogk17:43
middeyk1l ubottu heres the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/6313626/17:45
k1lmiddey: you see the errormessage that is at the end?17:46
middeyk1l yes but i can ping the host without problems17:47
DiplomaticoIf I use a livecd, how can I use programs that are not installed in the cd?17:47
master_jwhich version of ubuntu has the fastest boot time?17:48
master_ji heard it was 11.10 but that version just expired17:48
OerHeksDiplomatico, you can install them, they stay in memory, but disappear when you reboot17:48
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OerHeksmaster_j, the latest, i guess17:48
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DiplomaticoNo way!!Isn't there any way to keep them permanently maybe in the HD and be called from the live cd?17:49
k1lmiddey: its the transmission PPA that makes the trouble. dont know if there is something wrong with it17:49
master_ji don't know if that's the correct guess, the versions don't necessarily get faster boots, do they?17:49
OerHeksDiplomatico, no, but you can make an USB with the free space allocated for persistant packages17:50
master_ji remember the version after 11.10 being a slower boot17:50
ChogyDanDiplomatico: maybe try a pendrive install?  That would work for a usb17:50
k1lmaster_j: that depends on hardware and installed software.17:50
OerHeksmaster_j, yes, my experience is it is faster17:50
DiplomaticoOk, so just in CD is a no go with permanent programs installed.17:50
master_jok, thanks OerHeks17:50
Frank81hello can some one help me i wanna try to rm -rf the output of dir17:51
master_ji might partition my 500gb for a couple different distros.17:51
Frank81i do dir | rm -rf {}17:51
Frank81but that don't work17:51
master_jthinking of actually setting aside a home partition. i never do that.17:51
Frank81i wanna do that coz i wanna del all excluded the .bla folders17:51
ChogyDanFrank81: maybe ask in #bash17:51
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Frank81good ida thx17:51
master_j5 100gb partitions would be good, right? one for home, one for windows, and 3 for linux?17:52
master_joh, i was going to do a data one... should my home be ntfs?17:52
Sazpaimon_this may be a better question for #ubuntu-server, but how does raid10 performance compare between mdadm and lvm?17:52
ChogyDanmaster_j: I don't think you need more than 20g for a linux install with a separate /home17:52
k1lmaster_j: your home can not be ntfs17:53
k1lmaster_j: ubuntu partitions should be ext417:53
master_j20g! wow cool i'd like to have about 5 parts for linux distros17:53
Sazpaimon_for the record I made my home directory NTFS once before and it was perfectly okay. Not that I reccomend it though, as it took some tweaking of ntfs-3g to map users and ACLs together17:53
ChogyDanmaster_j: yeah, 20g at most.  I think you can get by with just 10g if you are just trying out different distros17:54
_raven_13.10 how to install old nautilus (3.4*) with ALL FEATURES?17:54
SchrodingersScatSazpaimon_: sounds terrible17:54
master_jwell, i need to create a seperate data partition then to share data with windows.. or do i...17:54
master_jwell, i'm not just trying them out, i want to keep them probably.17:54
Sazpaimon_SchrodingersScat, it was a 30 minute procedure altogether17:54
gui8765rI am attempting to export all wireless drivers from ubuntu, where can i find them?17:54
k1lmaster_j: yes, that data partition should be ntfs17:54
reisiogui8765r: export?17:54
master_jok17:55
gui8765rcopy17:55
master_jthanks for the help guys!17:55
middeyk1l i removed it now but now archive.ubuntu.com makes problems. Maybe the connection is to bad but i don't think so because it is a vps. W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release.gpg  Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com'17:55
Sazpaimon_I already had my home directory partitioned out in windows, so it was just a matter of mounting that partition as /home in linux17:55
k1lSazpaimon_: that is not supported. use ext* for ubuntu partitions17:55
ChogyDangui8765r: maybe if you explain why, we could help further17:55
Sazpaimon_also, why reccomend ntfs for shared data partitions17:55
Sazpaimon_wouldnt exfat be more performant for both OSes?17:55
master_jnever heard of exfat17:55
saketFacing the problem "could not calculate upgrade" while updating from 13.04 to 13.1017:56
ChogyDanSazpaimon_: fat32 works, but it has a size limit I think17:56
k1lSazpaimon_: 4GB barrier17:56
Sazpaimon_exfat != fat3217:56
master_ji never had any probs with a ntfs share17:56
master_jbesides slowness17:56
Sazpaimon_exfat has a 16EiB file size limit17:56
gui8765ri have several live distros on a "multiboot iso usb", some support my wireless card, some don't.. I figure I can just copy them all from ubuntu to the USB and them when I need them I can copy them from USB into the live filesystem17:56
k1lSazpaimon_: exfat is even not full suported by all windows versions17:57
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ChogyDangui8765r: i thought drivers of all kinds were included in the kernel.  Except maybe broadcom wireless...17:57
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Sazpaimon_its supported by every windows version made in the last 5 years17:57
Sazpaimon_I think that's fair enough17:57
gui8765rthis is also going to be my "rescue usb" for when i get conned into repairing friends and familys broken pcs17:57
k1lSazpaimon_: not fair enough. ntfs is full supported form windows and ubuntu17:58
gui8765rChogyDan, maybe in ubuntu? not working in other distros17:58
Sazpaimon_ntfs is also slow on ubuntu compared to other filesystems17:58
Sazpaimon_if you're only going to be using a recent version of windows and recent version of linux on your machine, why not use exfat?17:59
master_j(80gb Win7)(50gb Ubuntu)(50gb Debian)(50gb Mint)(50gb Linux)(50gb Linux)(160gb Data)(10gb Swap)17:59
master_jthat's what i'm thinking17:59
master_jhow does that look?17:59
Sazpaimon_in fact, i think even windows xp has an exfat support patch17:59
master_joh, i forgot home17:59
Sazpaimon_so what, are you going to argue that if he cant use a windows 2000 install, don't use exfat?17:59
reisionot had any problems using ntfs18:00
master_jooh, should i install XP too? ;)18:00
master_jnah18:00
reisioxp 2? you might see that next year18:00
ekemubuntu desktop blows18:00
master_jlol18:00
k1lmaster_j: if you seperate the /home 50GB is way too much. a fulll desktop ubuntu takes 5-15GB for /18:00
Sazpaimon_my argument is that while ntfs works in linux, it's not as performant as exfat is18:00
ChogyDanmaster_j: do 100g for win, 20g for each linux distro, swap == ram size, maybe 20g on /home, the rest on your shared data partition18:00
reisioSazpaimon_: how much less performant is it?18:01
Sazpaimon_in my experience with ntfs-3g, there's a large cpu overhead when writing large files18:01
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reisiooh "large", sounds bad18:01
master_jwith a 20gb home i'd have to constantly copy everything i want to keep to my data part. is this how it's usually done?18:02
reisiowhat about ext?18:02
master_jvery true, Saz.18:02
reisiomaster_j: what's the data part for?18:02
Sazpaimon_I dont think i've ever seen writing to ext partitions use cpu18:02
master_jmovies, music, pictures, documents18:02
Sazpaimon_or at lest significant CPU18:02
reisioSazpaimon_: from windows I mean18:02
JpmhI am trying to install ubuntu - I am getting a message that creation of the ext4 partition on /dev/sda1 failed . what does this mean and how do I get past it?18:02
reisiomaster_j: why do you need a dedicated partition for that18:02
master_jreisio: to share data with windows18:02
reisiomaster_j: don't need a dedicated partition for that18:03
guest130485102 Hello18:03
Sazpaimon_reisio, the point is if you want a shared data partition, dont you want that pertition to be equally performant on both linux and windows?18:03
master_jhow would i read it from windows then?18:03
reisioSazpaimon_: I'm pretty sure the overhead is going to be negligible to a human being18:03
ChogyDanmaster_j: then go ahead and make /home bigger.  It depends on what you want to share with windows18:03
_raven_13.10 how to install old nautilus (3.4*) with ALL FEATURES?18:03
reisiomaster_j: ext2fsd from windows, ntfs-3g from ubuntu18:03
master_joh i haven't tried ext2fsd18:04
ChogyDan_raven_: probably not possible/easy  what features are you missing?18:04
Sazpaimon_ext2fsd is.. okay18:04
odiumI cannot get audio from SPDIF audio out while HDMI audio works fine.  pavucontrol "Volume Control" reports only an hdmi output. while gnome's Sound applet reports there's an SPDIF and HDMI.18:04
Sazpaimon_it seems like a kludge over using something like exfat18:04
morsnowskidoes anyone a file system plugin to read ext partitions from a MAC18:05
reisioover having a whole extra partition? :/18:05
morsnowski+know18:05
reisio_that_ seems like a kludge to me18:05
gui8765rChogyDan, Is it possible to copy the wireless drivers, do you know?18:05
Sazpaimon_and no, the cpu overhead of ntfs-3g with writing large files (several hundred megabytes to multiple gigiabytes) is non-trivial18:05
k1lmaster_j: ntfs as a data partition is the best practise so far.18:05
master_jyeah i think so. simplest, anyway18:05
ChogyDangui8765r: no, I don't know.  I think you may have to follow the directions for each distro :(18:05
reisioSazpaimon_: did you mean not non-trivial?18:05
Sazpaimon_no, I mean there's a noticable cpu overhead with ntfs-3g18:06
sha1sumnot non-trivial is a double negative anyway :P18:06
reisioodium: look in alsamixer, tab around, use arrow keys for toggles that aren't mixers18:06
Sazpaimon_there is no significant overhead, if any, seen from using the exfat fuse driver18:06
reisioSazpaimon_: then you meant not non-trivial18:06
Sazpaimon_words18:07
sha1sumreisio: trivial == not significant; non-trivial == significant18:07
sha1sumnot non-trival == not significant18:07
gui8765rChogyDan, Probably. I first must get ahold of the drives included in ubuntu, then I can write a script to install them into the other distro as needed18:07
ampwif i use tightvnc on ubuntu, and want to connect to another ubuntu system do they need to be portforwarded or can i enter their ip and pass18:07
sha1sumnon-trivial*18:07
ChogyDangui8765r: what wifi card is this?18:08
reisioyou're killing me18:08
sha1sumreisio: lol18:08
gui8765rI couldn't tell you. its a half sized mpci card18:08
reisioampw: ip & pass18:08
Sazpaimon_anyway i can feel my arguments are falling on deaf ears here, so I'll stop18:08
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ampwreisio: Thank you sit18:08
ChogyDangui8765r: are you on ubuntu, with it working?18:08
ampwsir*18:08
gui8765rit works great in ubuntu18:08
gui8765ryes18:08
reisioSazpaimon_: well he was complaining about the extra partition is all18:08
reisioand I can't really blame him18:08
reisiobut I don't dual boot anyways18:09
reisioand if I did I doubt I'd need to have access to the same media from both OSes the same amount18:09
gui8765rfor example, it does not work in F4UBCD18:09
ChogyDangui8765r: what is the driver listed in: sudo lshw -C networking18:09
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master_jwho was complaining18:10
Sazpaimon_also, on a semi-related note, does anyone know the performance difference between raid10 over mdadm versus lvm?18:10
gui8765ronly says PCI (sysfs)18:10
bleachWhat the heck is going on? I just went to the Ubuntu site to download the 13.10 ISO and it trys to give me the 12.04 ISO?18:10
Sazpaimon_bleach, that happened to me when i didnt whitelist ubuntu.com in noscript18:11
reisiobleach: http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/18:12
k1lbleach: you can go straight to the isos here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/18:12
gui8765rconnection information in network manager says Driver: ath9k18:12
ChogyDangui8765r: that should be included in the kernel already.  for all distros I think18:13
Sazpaimon_i think i'll re-ask my question in #ubuntu-server18:13
gui8765rwell i have live distros that do not recognize it18:13
ChogyDangui8765r: maybe they are broken18:14
gui8765ri can look up the actual wifi card if it would make a difference18:14
bleachreisio/k1l: Thanks I'll try that but obviously there is a problem with the main Ubuntu site.  I've given up trying to fix the 13.10 upgrade and am going to try a fresh installation (aka the way windoz folks fix things).18:14
reisiobleach: yeah, well, IME it's next to impossible to tell people how to correct their broken website18:15
reisiobleach: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors is a reliable place to get a download link18:15
bleachSazpaimon:  AH! Let me go try that.  Sure don't want to complain of a problem with the Ubuntu site if it is my fault!18:15
_raven_ChogyDan, ALL features of nautilus, tree structure, double window, appearance ...18:16
gui8765rAtheros Half Mini PCI-E Wireless Card model AR9280 AR5BHB9218:16
apbIs anyone using a softphone?  I can't find a softphone that will work on  ubuntu 12.04... they all have some kind of issue of one kind or another.18:16
master_j(100gb Win7)(100gb 5 Linux distros)(195gb /home)(100gb data)(5gb swap) how about that18:17
reisiomaster_j: looks pretty silly18:17
ChogyDan_raven_: I was going to suggest trying a different one.  I doubt there is a straight forward way to downgrade nautilus18:18
master_jlet me know why and what you'd change reisio?18:18
reisiomaster_j: I don't find myself needing six operating systems18:18
ChogyDanmaster_j: looks fine, assuming the 5 distros is actually 5 partitions18:18
reisioChogyDan: I don't think so18:19
reisiooh yeah, probably18:19
reisiowith a distro on each, hence silly :p18:19
_raven_ChogyDan, on 13.04 there was and fork18:19
ChogyDanreisio: it would be 5 20g partitions18:19
bzupnickWhen can I cut in and ask a question?18:19
bleachSazpaimon: That was it!  My fault not Ubuntu's!  Thanks again!18:19
master_jbut if say you did want to install different distros of linux.18:19
reisiobzupnick: just then18:19
oupateddiebzupnickjust type your question18:20
reisiomaster_j: it's not the worst layout ever :)18:20
bzupnickha. fine. I installed ubuntu onto my new Lenovo T530 which has an SSD and HDD. I installed ubuntu on the SSD and Grub.18:20
master_jk, i'm asking because i haven't installed a seperate /home partition before.18:20
master_jif i could install DOS on one of them that'd be awesome. :D18:21
bleachMy $200 worth!  ALWAYS create a partition or separate drive for home.18:21
oupateddiemy unity keeps on crashing and leaves me without top and side menubars... Any way I can overcome this without rebooting. I'm on 12.0418:21
reisiomaster_j: heh18:21
bzupnickI goto GRUB, and then hit "ubuntu" (it just says ubuntu. that's it) and I see a black screen with a blinking cursor for 30 seconds, then it says "gave up waiting for root device"18:21
reisiomaster_j: just tell /etc/fstab where /home is, all there is to it18:22
master_jsounds like a video issue, bzupnick?18:22
reisiomaster_j: well, that and make sure the distro supports the FS /home uses18:22
reisiobleach: not really that useful for people using a single OS18:22
v2zzoupateddie my side panel hangs, so i kill unity-2d-shell process and it relaunches by itself18:22
bzupnickmaster_j: What do you mean?18:22
bzupnickrunning off a live CD worked perfectly18:23
bleachreisio: It is if you want to reinstall.18:23
master_jsounds like your video driver is timing out18:23
master_ji could be way off.18:23
reisiobleach: nah, but then reinstalling isn't that useful, either18:23
oupateddiev2zz - ok how doyou kill unity-2d-shell.... on the system monitor processes screen or from command line?18:23
v2zzoupateddie exatly18:23
bleachbzupnick:  Is the OS installed on the SSD?18:23
oupateddieexactly as in system monitor...18:24
v2zzoupateddie  sorry, on the system monitor processes screen18:24
master_jreisio: i alwas think i'll never have to reinstall but it does happen. some people just buy new computers every 2 years, i just use the same one and instlal a new OS if i need to18:24
bzupnickbleach: yes18:24
oupateddiethanks. It seems as if it happens with libre office18:24
* nongeek hello all18:24
bzupnickbut I also tried doing everything on the HD, and I got the same error18:24
nongeekI want to configure ipsec, in apsec.secret file I see "your_pre_shared_key" , What is it?18:24
v2zzoupateddie  and i guess running unity-2d-shell from cmd is possible, if it's not relalunching by itself18:25
bzupnickhere's what it displays after 30 seconds: http://pastebin.com/jhyHdF0W18:25
bleachbzupnick: When you boot from the live CD is the SSD visable and does your new installation show up?18:25
oupateddieok thanks, it's irritating to sit with screens open and no top menu ....18:25
t38bzupnick:are you dual-gooting with win 818:25
t38booting*18:26
master_ji could definitely see myself running ubuntu, arch, debian, and something else. and just pick what i feel like working with, and sharing data between them. that can't be too rare, can it reisio18:26
grimetonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh-cnaJoGCw18:26
nongeekany idea?18:26
bzupnickbleach: by "viable" do you mean can I go into the directories? If so, I don't know but I'm booting now to check18:26
ripthejackerHi everyone , I am using Ubuntu 13.10 with amd radeon  hd 6450 , using open source drivers18:26
bzupnickt38: It came with windows 7, and I wiped it18:26
ripthejackerand the display is completely broken18:26
ripthejackerhttp://imagebin.org/27484018:27
ripthejackerit looks like this18:27
oupateddieripthejackercheck if there are proprietory drivers to load... Might be the problem18:27
TheNeverWorldhacHay What up18:27
roby123hello18:28
bleachbzupnick: Are you offered the "(recovery mode)" by gurb when you try to boot from the SSD or HD?18:28
nightmare365how do i reload the unity panel service18:28
ripthejackeroupateddie: but the ubuntu documentation says that the open source drivers fully support my card18:28
roby123list please18:28
reisiomaster_j: unfortunately it's not too rare18:28
master_junfortunately :P18:28
oupateddieripthejackersometimes not.. I had a problem with an intel card and it took a lot of patience to get it sorted eventually18:28
TheNeverWorldhacRight click18:29
DJonesroby123: What list? You download UBuntu from the the links on the Ubuntu website18:29
master_jso you're just against dual booting in general i guess18:29
jalthi. what is the easiest way to reinstall a package+dependencies and forcing it to overwrite every existing conf file, including profile-specific ones, with the default packaged versions? (x/l)ubuntu 13.10, x86, up-to-date.18:29
TheNeverWorldhacuseing backtrack 518:29
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bazhanglooking for warez afaict DJones18:29
t38bzupnick: restart and when you get to grub menu press 'e' and see if its looking at the right partition18:29
DevZeroi want to mount a ntfs drive on /media/xp and set permissions to 600...is that sufficient or would prohibiting execute permissions prevent playing media files?18:29
bazhangTheNeverWorldhac, thats not supported here18:30
bzupnickWhen booting from the live CD, and I can see the SSD and I can see the file structure. I quick peruse and it seems pretty much ok. In the Grub menu I don't see any sort of recovery mode18:30
master_ji don't think it would prevent it, DevZero18:30
bzupnickt38: and how do I know which partition it's supposed to be in?18:30
bazhang#backtrack-linux TheNeverWorldhac18:30
ripthejackeroupateddie: so what do you intend, it's a problem with my card?18:30
TheNeverWorldhacdid you play gta 5 wet18:31
DevZeromaster_j: because obv i don't need to .exe files unless i'm using wine, correct?18:31
TheNeverWorldhacinstall wine18:31
roby123list18:31
roby123list18:31
master_ji don't know DevZero i just think you'd be able to play audio files without having them set to +x18:31
TheNeverWorldhac to use .exe18:31
master_jso, yeah18:32
k1l!list > roby12318:32
ubotturoby123, please see my private message18:32
DJones!piracy | roby12318:32
ubotturoby123: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o18:32
oupateddieripthejackerthat is a good question. I had a problem where the graphics caard just crashed immediately on boot up. Then I installed the drivers and by regular updates of the x-org it solved itself... Some machines is just a problem with graphics18:32
bleachbzupnick: I gotta go but... you can look in "/boot/grub" to find out what grub is supposed to be configured to boot from and mount.18:32
bzupnickbleach: thanks! I'll try to work with that....18:32
DevZeroTheNeverWorldhac: so even if permissions are set to 600 i could still execute within wine?18:32
master_jDevZero: i believe so18:33
TheNeverWorldhacdoes ant no how to unjailbreak a ps318:33
bleachbzupnick: It's kind of a pain.  Someone else mentioned that you should be able to type and "e" when the boot menu comes up.18:33
master_jbecause windows doesn't use flags18:33
ripthejackeroupateddie: proprietary drivers may solve my problems,I've been doing that ever since I got this cheap card.18:33
DevZeromakes sense18:33
DevZerook18:33
bzupnickbleach: I can press 'e' and all the options come up, but the problem is knowing what to change18:33
ripthejackeroupateddie: but I was wondering if I could get the radeon driver to work18:33
bazhang!ot | TheNeverWorldhac18:34
ubottuTheNeverWorldhac: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:34
oupateddieripthejacker That I'm not sure of, perhaps ask Google a question. You might get a solution.18:34
TheNeverWorldhacever time i fw it say error18:34
t38bzupnick: boot from cd and install boot-repair (in memory, of course). That should make sure your grub is correct18:34
bzupnickt38: I've done that already. didn't help18:35
TheNeverWorldhacping18:35
bzupnickt38: the params of the grub entry seem to point to 'hd1', how do I check and see if that's correct?18:35
bzupnickalso it says msdos1. why would it say msdos?18:35
ripthejackeroupateddie: Ok, thanks18:36
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t38bzupnick: I have a z580 that I've had a devil of a time with... If you do anything to the drives, you can't even access the bios anymore18:37
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ChiiQuick question... how might it be possible to copy the drivers from the disk/live disk to my current install?18:38
bzupnickt38: what do you mean? I'm able to get into the BIOS and screw with the boot order and all that jazz18:38
bzupnickand I've definitely done a lot of screwing around trying to figure this out18:38
k1lChii: just install the needed driver packages18:38
ChiiBecause 12.10 installs are not even recognizing ehthernet card, so I cant even get a wired connectin to download drivesr with18:38
ChiiHow?  Im trying to get it to recognized my wired connectiong on my laptop and it wont18:39
Chiiyet when I try to run it on the live disk it attempts to install the broadcom package and fails but then it magically detects the wired connection18:39
k1lChii: why 12.10? maybe with another kernel (like in 12.04, 13.10) you have more luck18:40
Assaulthi all18:40
Chiierr thats what I mean18:40
Chiimeant18:40
AssaultWhere are the USB devices supposed to appear in Ubuntu?18:40
Chii12.04.0318:40
OkitainAssault: what do you want, specifically?18:40
Chii13.10 wont even load on this hunk-o-junk >.<18:41
t38bzupnick: can't do that with the 580.. Installed linux dual-booting with win 8 --- BIOS is now inaccessible18:41
bzupnickwell I'm not dual booting.18:41
Chiiki1 I do apolgize for the error I meant 12.0418:41
Chiiand I tried 13.10 and it errors out on me18:41
t38bzupnick:  UEFI bios?18:42
fugutive221_Hi everyone18:43
AssaultOkitain: well, i have this external USB 3.0 HD, and im new to Ubuntu, i have no idea if Ubuntu has recognized it or not..i dont know where to look18:43
fugutive221_I'm having serious trouble with my Toshiba laptop18:43
fugutive221_When I press the round 'start/bootup' button on my laptop only the lights will go on except for my screen which is completely black. No backlit whatsoever.18:43
fugutive221_HELP!18:43
bzupnickt38: Not entirely sure what that means but, on boot it shows the Lenovo page, and I hit "enter" then 'f1' and it goes to that blue screen where you can do a bunch of stuff, including changing the boot order18:43
OkitainAssault: go to the file manager, and see if it's in the left panel.18:44
ABMHey can anybody tell me how to chat through Terminal18:44
OkitainABM: install irssi and go at it.18:44
Okitainfugutive221_: does your BIOS stay visible?18:44
AssaultOkitain: its not there18:44
subz3r0Assault: check the output of lsusb18:45
kaddiMyrtti: you around? Do you have time for a PM for a second?18:45
ChiiAny idea why ubuntu would not recognize the wired card?18:45
OkitainAssault: go to terminal, input lsusb, tell if you see anything.18:45
Chiior should I try blacklisting ipv 6 as I've seen indicated?18:45
fugutive221_Okitain: How can I see that? When I try to press the F12 button and del button on my keyboard nothing happens (also a black screen without backlit)18:46
subz3r0Okitain: youre too slow ;)18:46
Okitainfugutive221_: I mean, is the BIOS load screen visible?18:46
oz0neAssault: 'sudo fdisk -l' disk should be there18:47
Chiiokay question.... how do I pull a propertary driver off my linux install cd/flash disk and make my install use it?18:47
Okitainsubz3r0: oh I know, but I'm also more specific.18:47
fugutive221_Okitain: No absolutely not.18:47
Chiiusing Ubuntu 12.0418:47
fugutive221_Okitain: No Toshiba splashscreen18:47
Okitainfugutive221_: in that case, it's not really usable to ask us. Go to the nearest tech shop.18:47
Chiiso no one knows? :x18:49
OerHeksfugutive, what videocard ?18:49
Guest1099Hello18:50
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metasansanaIs there a way to periodically clear a tmpfs filesystem?18:50
OkitainChii: I'm afraid that's impossible without specifics.18:51
fugutive221_Okitain: At least I can tell you what I did. Through windows 8.1 I tried to let it boot up from my USB stick so I could do a boot-repair (made with the lili usb creator.). The BIOS told me (I could see that through the not Windows layout) there was no usb booting up ability what soever.18:51
Myrttikaddi: not really, going to cook. BBL.18:51
gordonjcpChii: proprietary driver for what, and why?18:51
Eagleman7Is it possible to set up permissions and ownerships with NFS, as you would normally do with a normal hard disk?18:51
chrosha1sum, how do you suggest I debug the keyboard issue ?18:51
gordonjcpEagleman7: yes, but (as you might expect) it gets a bit complicated18:51
Eagleman7gordonjcp: would iscsi be better for that purpose?18:52
gordonjcpEagleman7: consider what happens when user lists aren't in sync between the client and server machines, and you don't take care to work round that18:52
Chiigordon jcp Im using an inspiron 1501.... old laptop.  It appears to need to use the broadcom drivers for wireless... however at this point its not even detecting my wired ethernet unless I attempt to enable said broadcom drivers using the live disk18:52
gordonjcpEagleman7: depends what you're trying to do18:52
kaddiMyrtti: ok.. just wanted to let you know I was not trying to impersonate you or steal your nick just now.. I'm just very used to being myrti and didn't realised I wasn't the one registering it, when it came up as registered.. I've never known anyone else using that nick ;p18:52
Chiiat that point it fails... but magically sees my wired connection and I can now use it18:52
gordonjcpChii: oh, no idea18:52
fugutive221_Okitain: After that I could choose some booting up menus. And there also was a option of booting up from USB. After that I think I f*ck*d up my system18:52
ChiiOr how or why would it not be seeing my WIRED connection?18:53
Chiinever mind18:53
ChiiI somehow made it work18:53
ChiiIt boggles my mind the voodoo involved in this lol18:53
fugutive221_Okitain: It seems that it is in some kind of hybernate mode. Is it maybe good to but my battery and and put it back in after 10 minutes?18:54
Okitainfugutive221_: yes, do that.18:54
Eagleman7gordonjcp: I am experimenting with FreeNAS ZFS and the harddisks is now directly attached to my ubuntu machine with different permissions and owner ships on folders. When i will change to ZFS i need a new way to setup access to harddisks on my ubuntu machine18:54
Eagleman7I am currently using esxi with RDM to attach my disks to Ubuntu18:56
Assaultlsusb or fdisk do not display the USB HD...well, I guess its just not possible to use18:56
Assaulton Virtualbox18:56
fugutive221_Okitain: Please stay tuned. I will update you with some info wether it is going to work or not :P18:56
Okitainfugutive221_: I'm afraid I can't stay tuned. Work to do.18:57
Eagleman7gordonjcp: so i am trying to figure out which system works best to access my files over the network18:57
fugutive221_Okitain: Thanks anyway :D18:57
subz3r0Assault: you need to install the guest additions in addition to get usb working under virtualbox ;)18:58
ABMGuest addition is generally provided in the package itself18:59
subz3r0ABM: and?19:00
Eagleman7gordonjcp: you still here?19:00
subz3r0also he needs Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-.... to get usb working19:00
subz3r0no virtualbox extension no usb19:00
ABMso no download required if you have the offline pacakge of the VirtaulBox19:01
subz3r0ABM19:01
subz3r0thats bullshit19:01
ABMwhat19:01
subz3r0Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack is NOT delivered with virtualbox19:01
whoeverhi all, i have multible monetors. what pkg will allow each screen to have its own screen save and active time?19:02
subz3r0you need to download it from virtualbox.org and install it @virtualbox19:02
fugutive221_Okitain: I think putting the battery out and in worked ;D19:02
gordonjcpEagleman7: for about ten seconds...19:02
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gordonjcpEagleman7: iSCSI is great if you want something to pretend to be a disk on a client machine19:02
ABMI have the   .deb file of the VirtualBox and it had all the things required19:02
gordonjcpEagleman7: what your client machine sees is actually a block device, that you can partition, format etc19:03
subz3r0ABM. no it does not19:03
subz3r0see here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads19:03
ABMI don't use the VirtualBox provided in the Software centre19:03
gordonjcpEagleman7: if you want more than one machine to share an iSCSI target you have to use a filesystem that supports multiple access19:03
Eagleman7gordonjcp: would it be smart to setup samba/nfs on the ubuntu machine which then has the iscsi disk attached19:04
subz3r0ABM: you dont really know what youre talking about, do you?19:04
subz3r0oracle DOES NOT ship the extension back with any .deb file19:05
subz3r0pack19:05
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gordonjcpEagleman7: you could do, depends what you're trying to achieve19:05
gordonjcpEagleman7: experiment, and keep backups19:05
ABMyes I know very well about the Guest additions that enable us to use USB and full screen support19:05
* gordonjcp -> out19:05
Eagleman7alrght, thanks for the explanation19:06
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subz3r0ABM: Guest Additions != Extension Pack!19:08
subz3r0ABM: but never mind... youre the hero...19:08
apb1963Is anyone using a softphone? I can't find a softphone that will work on ubuntu 12.04... they all have some kind of issue of one kind or another.19:10
ABMBut hey I m able to use everything without ur "Extension pack"19:11
bekksapb1963: What do you mean by "softphone"? Something like skype, or a VoIP solution?19:11
apb1963bekks: Yes... but not skype.  Something that uses SIP19:12
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ABMand by the way the   .deb package is available and I have used it and I am still using it19:12
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bekksABM: Obviously you dont know nothing about it. Since version 4.x, onlx the extension pack provides the ability to use USB2, and neither the guest additions nor the extension ever were responsible for fullscreening a guest.19:12
apb1963bekks: something like linphone, jitsi, zoiper, sflphone, etc.19:12
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apb1963even phonerlite :)19:14
bekksapb1963: So no VoIP solution then.19:14
apb1963bekks: VoIP is what I need, yes.19:14
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ABMBUT I can use my USB without it.........tell me how  is it possible then19:15
bekksABM: As I said. USB_2_ support is provided by the extension pack only, USB_1_ support is provided without the extension pack at all.19:16
whoeveris there a w7ay to set a different screen saver per lcd monetor witout losing drag and drop betwwen the monetors19:16
bekksABM: Here's a list, unfortunately in german - but the names and operating systems are readabe in english, too: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_VoIP-Software19:16
subz3r0ABM: maybe your a magician... i dont know or care... but you have simply no clue what youre talking about.19:17
ABMbekks :Plz explain what is USB_2 and USB_119:18
bekksABM: USB is USB standard version 1, USB2 is USB standard version 2.19:19
subz3r0bekks: :D19:19
bekksABM: You shuld know that at least when mocking about vbox usb support - just my two cents.19:19
bekks*should19:19
whoeverusing xscreensaver19:19
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ABMWhat sort of standards19:20
bekksABM: Do you know what USB is, actually?19:21
k1lABM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Version_history19:21
ABMcommon bekks I m just a learner19:22
t38apb1963: What's your main problem with the softphones you've tried19:23
ABMUniversal Serial BUS19:23
subz3r0ABM: HEAD -> WALL, HEAD -> WALL, HEAD -> WALL19:23
subz3r0anyways..19:23
subz3r0!OT | ABM19:23
ubottuABM: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:23
ABMOK sorry I intentionally entered ur conversations and now on I wud take care of the starting point :D19:26
Nothing_MuchHow do I configure debootstrap after the --second-stage part?19:27
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Nothing_MuchHow do I configure debootstrap after the --second-stage part?19:29
ABMOh common if u r talking about USB 2.0 then also I m able to use that in my VBox19:29
Nothing_MuchHello?19:30
Nothing_MuchHow do I configure debootstrap after the --second-stage part?19:30
OlatheHow long will the updater from 12.10 to 13.04 work?19:30
AlphratzI dont know :)19:30
Nothing_MuchOlathe, It depends on your internet connection19:30
OlatheI don't mean how long it takes to finish. How long until I can't use it to update?19:31
wilee-nileeOlathe, till it goes end of l;ife19:31
OlatheOh, OK. Thanks :)19:31
AlphratzI must wait with my UMTS-Stick wait 14 day's for a Ubuntu update :)19:31
Guest46342lol19:35
laconichello19:36
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Guest67294ola19:38
itsdroidlikehell.slap anyone19:41
* itsdroidlikehell hails hmol19:41
* itsdroidlikehell drinks a lot of beer19:41
k1l!ot > itsdroidlikehell19:42
ubottuitsdroidlikehell, please see my private message19:42
itsdroidlikehellAre there ne dutch ubuntu users here?19:43
k1l!nl | itsdroidlikehell19:43
ubottuitsdroidlikehell: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl19:43
theadmin!nl | itsdroidlikehell19:43
nazis there a ubuntu server channel?19:44
Gallomimiayes19:44
Gallomimia#ubuntu-server19:44
nazthanks Gallo, really appreciate it :)19:45
Die_NadalIs there a ubuntu-gnome channel ?19:45
Nothing_MuchHow do I configure debootstrap after the --second-stage part?19:45
wilee-nileeDie_Nadal, Not specifically.19:46
mammagammasalve19:46
mammagamma!list19:47
ubottumammagamma: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».19:47
jcrzaDo you guys have any idea how to set up a TFTP server that will present the user with a menu to choose from multiple OSes?19:47
Die_NadalI found one..19:47
Die_Nadallol, thanks though.19:47
Die_Nadalwilee-nilee.19:47
Die_Nadalexit19:47
t38Nothing_Much:   https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap19:48
MonkeyDustjcrza  start here, not sure if it offers multiple os's https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer19:51
_raven_13.10 how to install old nautilus (3.4*) with ALL FEATURES?19:51
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jcrzaMonkeyDust: Thanks!19:52
apb1963t38: the main problem is that they don't work.   They don't do ANYTHING.... I get no window of any kind.  You can see zoiper in the process list but there's no way to interact with  it.  sflphone at first showed a window, but wouldn't register to asterisk... after speaking with the developer it now registers to asterisk, but I no longer get a window... and so can't interact with it.  One of the others gave me something about a method error or something...19:55
apb1963and so on.19:55
issa2013hello19:55
ubuntu-beginneri have a problem with ubuntu 12.04.3 installed with alternate. grub-install /dev/sda : grub could not fin device for /boot not found or not a block device.19:55
issa2013quelqu'un conais la commande byacc19:55
issa2013je ne sais pas qu'elle paquet installer  ?19:55
bekks!fr | issa201319:55
ubottuissa2013: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.19:55
apb1963t38: the sflphone developer said that dbus was crashing... so  he changed his code to use a different function... I'm guessing he's still working on it, but no response from him.19:57
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harushimoI'm trying to access a vnc server.  I'm using avahi. It always asks for SSH server. Is there a way to change that?20:03
AnonynimityHey, I'm having an issue connecting to my router via wireless internet... I type in 192.168.2.1 and it gives me an error "The connection was reset"20:04
AnonynimityCould someone help me fix this issue?20:04
ubuntu-beginner\help20:04
b0xsince updating to 13.1020:04
b0xi keep getting... "screen tearing" ?/20:05
b0xhttp://snag.gy/gbfPB.jpg20:05
b0xsometimes completely distorted20:05
b0xminimising or moving the window (or even hovering over items) resolves it20:05
b0xnothing seems to trigger it, just happens occainsionally20:05
t38apb1963: Which desktop are you running? Gnome, Gnome3?  Do you have openbox or anything else installed, and have you tried one of those?  I may be grabbing at straws here.20:08
sp3ckAnonynimity, router model, vendor?20:09
NoSpoon42I get tearing on elementary, but mostly in videos20:09
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AnonynimityBelkin Router model no is no longer on there20:09
k1lNoSpoon42: please ask elementary support20:09
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k1l!elementary | NoSpoon4220:09
apb1963t38 kde20:09
NoSpoon42yeah I was just commenting)20:09
NoSpoon42thanks20:10
Die_Nadalin Ubuntu Gnome 13.10, how do you change the GDM log on screen/theme now ?20:10
apb1963t38 no openbox or any virtual stuff20:10
cuddylierIf I had this as a cronjob, would it run daily? 35 19 *** sh /home/spartanmc/node2script.sh20:11
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baggar11cuddylier: yes on the 35th minute of the 19th hour.20:13
Die_Nadalin Ubuntu Gnome 13.10, how do you change the GDM log on screen/theme now ?20:13
cuddylierGood20:13
Guest404hi all, just installed ubuntu 13.10 on pc that had xp and windows 8 (legacy mode).  Resized/formated  xp partition to be extra ntfs storage, and put ubuntu there too.  Now windows 8 won't show up in grub220:14
t38apb1963: Just installed zopier and it pops up just fine... Don't have a sip to connect to, but I'm suspecting in the window environment since you can see the process running20:14
Guest404Windows 8 usb when going into recover/repair says Windows drive locked20:14
Guest404Any ideas?20:14
thanosmeGuest404: sudo update-grub220:14
t38suspecting something *20:14
apb1963yeah, a guy in #freepbx told me to add it to the desktop... I was running from the console... now I just need to know how to add it to the desktop :/20:14
wilee-nileeGuest404, Windows generally is best installed in order of releases they combine their bootloader.20:15
wilee-nileexp wont boot W820:15
Die_NadalHow can you tell what Gnome VErsion you are running?20:15
Guest404actually, had winxp, then win 8 preview, then installed win 820:15
Guest404even ubuntu can't mount the win 8 partition20:16
wilee-nileeGuest404, Did leave W8 in its hybrid boot?20:16
Guest404running update grub2 doesn't find the win 8 partition20:16
Guest404yes, i believe so wilee-nilee20:16
Guest404this is not an uefi bios20:16
wilee-nileeGuest404, That is part of the problem at least the lock, it wont use that as a multi boot20:17
Guest404so how to get rid of lock? wilee-nilee20:17
wilee-nileeGuest404, Was it ever a uefi?20:17
OerHeksGuest404, if your win8 has bitlocker setup, you cannot mount it.20:18
Guest404from forum searches win 7 repair cd works/is better than win 8.20:18
Guest404not uefi that i know of20:18
wilee-nileeGuest404, The hybrid boot is uefi, so you left it in hibernate?20:18
Guest404when i run repair from win 8 install usb, it gives me error message that drive is locked20:18
Guest404well, i shut down (actually my kid did)20:19
Guest404I don't think it was in hibernate20:19
bekksGuest404: And how is that related to Ubuntu? :)20:19
wilee-nileeGuest404, I'm not sure, maybe ##windows might help.20:19
Guest404bekks point taken, I guess it is related in the sense that Im trying to gain a convert to Ubuntu....and well....bricking his win 8 is not helping20:20
Guest404okay wilee-nilee I 'll try there20:20
apb1963t38: You didn't find a package for zoiper did you?  You just untarred it, right?20:20
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t38apb1963:Yeah, Its a single file20:21
ubuntutisanyone know if ajax is included in lamp20:21
t38apb1963: And I of course picked the FREE version20:23
ChogyDanubuntutis: it depends on the software that you install on top of lamp.  Ajax doesn't need anything special from lamp, AFAIK20:24
apb1963t38: How are you running it?20:24
Anonynimityio off to work we go20:24
apb1963t38:  from a terminal?20:25
apb1963t38: ./zoiper ?20:25
t38apb1963:  just double-clicked on the binary where it was extracted20:25
garciancubuntutis, ajax is not necessarily part of the lamp stack but the capability you need is there20:25
apb1963t38:  from a file manager20:26
Gspote20:26
apb1963t38: ?20:26
t38apb1963:  yeah... lol20:26
ubuntutischogydan: what software you talking about20:26
rawfodogI have a drive that is encrypted with LVM. This is an old sata drive which I am going to put in a friends laptop (theirs broke). They want windows on it so whatever I'm going to do that for them. Thing is, I cant seem to boot off of expternal media with it plugged in. Should I boot a live cd with gparted and wipe the drive ? Will that work ?20:27
bekksrawfodog: KVM cannot encrypt at all.20:27
bekksrawfodog: Sorry, LVM.20:27
rawfodogwhat do you mean ?20:27
bekksrawfodog: If they want to put Windows on it, you dont have to do anything. Just install Windows on it.20:27
rawfodogok20:28
rawfodogThe CD drive must be broken then20:28
rawfodogbecause it bypasses external media to boot from20:28
ChogyDanubuntutis: what are you trying to do?20:29
apb1963t38: still doesn't work for me20:29
ubuntutisnothing i just want the information to know what i need to do when i install it20:30
bekksrawfodog: a cdrom is considered to be a "cdrom" in the bios boot order, not "external media".20:30
rawfodogk bekks20:31
unicornjedidoes anyone know how to use rosegarden or know a better midi sequencer?20:32
t38apb1963:  I get some gtk warnings if I run it ./zoiper, but it still shows up on the desktop20:32
fakhola, alguien habla español?20:32
k1l!spanish | fak20:33
ubottufak: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.20:33
fakThnx20:33
gotwigwhen can we expect to see unity 8 in ubuntu 14.0420:33
k1lgotwig: the plan is for 14.1020:33
gotwigk1l: well, that makes me really sad20:33
linuxbitchhey20:34
kostkongotwig, why?20:35
greekHi guys how do I COMPLETELY disable the touchpad in 12.04 LTS?20:35
bekksgreek: Best chances are to do so in the BIOS.20:35
apb1963so the question then becomes not why does zoiper not work, but why does zoiper not work for my specific instance of ubuntu 12.04 with kde ?20:35
apb1963t38:  What desktop are you using?20:35
IdleOnedahkmattah231: you there?20:35
gotwigkostkon: because I was a unity dev, time ago, and I want to see something new. All unity < 8 is not interessting to me20:35
joaouserhelo20:36
kostkongotwig, ok20:36
greekkostkon is basically my name haha20:36
gotwigkostkon: we all want to see something new, dont we20:36
greekbekks, ok thanks20:36
gotwigbut for LTS they want to have something stable, yeah..20:36
boerni have problem with dota 2 on ubuntu 13.10.. i have a gtx260 and the nouveau display driver(when i use proprietary driver it doesnt even open).. here is a screenshot : http://1.2.3.10/bmi/www7.pic-upload.de/27.10.13/hf2sey6oyqnq.png .. i know there is an extra channel for steam but there are not much people and maby you have a similar issue and know a solution20:36
sam_ukAnyone know what to do with this error? 47: /etc/default/grub: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution20:37
sam_ukgoogle doesn't help20:37
bekkssam_uk: Whats the full error and when do you see it?20:37
sam_uktrying aptitude -f install20:37
bekkssam_uk: pastebin the entire output, not just one line please.20:37
t38apb1963:  Using cinnamon20:37
sam_ukbekks broken packages20:37
bekkssam_uk: Pastebin the full output...20:38
IdleOnedahkmattah231: now?20:38
apb1963t38: so what that says to me is that there's something wrong with kde.....  how do I install cinnamon (I don't why but I want to call it cinnabun :) )20:39
dahkmattah231ufw with its default configuration, does it basically blocks all incoming connections except the ones you allow?20:39
bekksdahkmattah231: Thats the default configuration, yes.20:39
NetCatty_How do I set the priority for media player to use the media keys and how to switch between them?20:40
dahkmattah231thanks bekks20:40
boernhow can i hide the join and quid messages i xchat? they are so annoying20:41
boernquit*20:41
t38apb1963:  http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1246  need to add the repository20:42
dahkmattah231boern: settings->preferences->(chatting)General.. and there it is20:42
sam_ukbekks, http://pastebin.com/NkZfSAfX20:42
bekkssam_uk: Then pastebin your grub configuration please.20:42
sam_uk/etc/grub ?20:43
bekkssam_uk: yes, there it is.20:43
apb1963t38: thanks.  However, it just occurred to me.... what version of ubuntu are you running?20:44
shhhahey dual booting question, if i use gparted to make a partition and on this partition i want to install windows 7, is the only format "NTFS"?  and no other that would work ?20:44
bekksshhha: Correct.20:44
k1lshhha: yes.20:44
paulus68shhha: you should probably install windows first and then ubuntu20:45
NetCatty_windows 7 is still using ntfs?20:45
bekksNetCatty_: Yes.20:46
bekksNetCatty_: Even Win 8.1 does.20:46
shhhapaulus68: interesting... is this because if i install ubuntu overall and tick the "LVM and encrypted file" stuff and THEN installed windows it wouldn't work too well?20:46
jmgkhi shhha20:46
sam_ukbekks, weird i don't have a /etc/grub i have a /etc/grub.d folder with subfolders in it..20:46
NetCatty_bekks: didn't they upgraded it to somthing or anther?20:46
bekkssam_uk: yeah.20:46
therazrNetCatty_: And they don't know then ReFS will be ready20:46
shhhajmgk: hi20:46
bekksNetCatty_: No.20:47
bekksshhha: No. Generally, Windows messes up the bootloader.20:47
paulus68shhha: the thing is when you are going to do a dual boot you first need to install windows because it can be messing arround with your bootloader20:47
sam_ukbekks, I _should_ have a /etc/grub file? right?20:48
bekkssam_uk: No.20:48
t38apb1963: I'm running 13.0420:48
sam_ukno?20:48
bekkssam_uk: No.20:48
paulus68shhha: http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony20:48
bekkssam_uk: /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/20:48
ashish2hi20:48
apb1963t38: that would make the difference... all kinds of stuff works in 13.04 that doesn't in 12.0420:49
shhhabekks: aw man.. lol.  now i may just make the entire switch to ubuntu then...   lol paulus68  so is there no way to have a "good" dual boot setup with ubuntu and win7 where the ubuntu half has the LVM and encrypted file feature, are these features worth it also?20:49
ice9in Uhuntu 13.10 sound there is always background noise when playing any sound!20:49
sam_ukbekks, http://pastebin.com/vubNE5LA20:50
paulus68shhha:yes but you need to install windows first and then ubuntu20:50
paulus68shhha: just follow the guide I mentioned earlier20:51
Jordan_Ushhha: You can have your Ubuntu partitions however you like them, and to be clear it is possible to install Windows second, it just means that you'll have to manually re-install grub after Windows clobbers it.20:51
t38apb1963:   Worth a shot..  You might like the way cinnamon works. Its kinda 'purty'20:51
sam_ukbekks, /etc/default/grub : http://pastebin.com/UDb3g7Vb20:52
Jordan_Usam_uk: Please pastebin your /etc/default/grub .20:52
johnjohn101  /join #couchdb20:52
master_jhow does this look? http://i.imgur.com/RADFPoQ.png20:53
paulus68Jordan_U: it's possible to word this way but it's more adviceable to install windows first then Ubuntu this has been the most clean way since a long way back20:53
shhhapaulus68: Jordan_U  hmm thanks, i didn't know that, but that makes sense now.20:53
paulo220:53
pauloa20:53
paulus68Work20:53
apb1963t38 I've heard good things about it... but then I've heard good things about lots of stuff... my biggest fear is that I install it and then get stuck with something that doesn't work... I can't seem do find a support channel for it, other than linux-mint20:53
sam_ukJordan_U, Just spotted original/ edited lines & re-edited.20:53
bekkssam_uk: line 17/18 are messed up.20:54
paulus68shhha: it's always better to start with windows first because if you work the other way arround your boatloader gets messed up20:55
apb1963t38: and I certainly don't want to upgrade to 13.04... for one thing it's not LTS I don't think, and for another I hear too many stories about people needing to totally reinstall to get it working.  I can't afford to mess up this machine and don't have another to work with.20:55
t38apb1963:  The good thing about DE's is - you can always switch back. Just choose the one you want at login20:55
bekkssam_uk: USe this line for 17/18: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet i915.i915_enable_fbc=1 pcie_aspm=force acpi_backlight=vendor"20:55
sam_ukbekks, yep just saw that, commented it out now updating20:55
fahadashMy first month as a ubuntu user is over and now ubuntu is acting like windows.20:55
apb1963t38: I reboot and/or login so little I forget you can change desktops20:56
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fahadashI hit the start button to open that full-screen covering programs menu (or whatever it is called)... I am clicking options, it closes the menu but never launches that application why ?20:56
fahadashWhen I use the arrow keys to point to that item and hit enter, it works20:57
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t38japb1963: just log out -> choose your preferred desktop -> log back in20:57
apb1963t38: for me, logging out is nearly the same as rebooting.... I hate doing it because I always have a boatload of windows open that I hate to reset... although these days with browswers continuing from where they left off, it's not as bad as it used to be.20:57
t38apb1963: I can understand that. I rebooted mine last night for the first time in about 2 weeks20:59
sam_ukbekks, that looks happier.. Thanks20:59
Guest54804Hey all. Does anyone know if, when  using an interactive shell program, it is possible to return to and edit a previously entered line if the command has not yet been terminated?20:59
bekksGuest54804: Yes, I know it. No it isnt possible.21:00
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apb1963t38: well, getting a softphone working is more important than anything else right now, so I'll go install cinnabun... thank you21:00
BrandonMOK, thanks a lot, bekks.21:00
t38apb1963:  Had someone tell me one time about a cinnabun, "try it, you'll like it" - hard to stop after just one. LOL21:02
apb1963t38: I've never actually tried one... cinnamon rolls, yes... cinnabun... no.  But I can't get the name out of my head.... very....umm... sticky.21:09
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apb1963is anyone else here running cinnamon?  Just in case I need... you know... support21:09
jmgkhello sburjan`21:09
okay19How much swap should I use on a new install with 6 gb of ram?21:10
OerHeksokay19, let the installer decide, if you want hybernate/sleep21:10
apb1963t38: So I guess it's all installed now... just logout and back in again then huh?21:10
therazrokay19: Just tell how much space you want to give to Ubuntu, and the installer will decide on the swap space21:11
k1lokay19: if you want suspend2disk: swap=ram21:11
t38apb1963: There's always the #linuxmint group IF there are any gotchas21:12
apb1963t38: how interesting...  zoiper works now... and I didn't even need to run the cinnabun desktop... just install it.21:13
JEirc.oftc.net21:13
t38apb1963:  You may have been missing something21:13
andybrineEvening everyont21:14
andybrineeveryone21:14
Othi`hello, i'm having an issue with some upstart scripts. it tells me 'setuid: not found'. other scripts calling setuid work21:14
apb1963apb1963: yeah, I noticed some stuff come down with the cinnabun files, which is what made me think to try zoiper again.21:14
Othi`google has nothing on it21:14
apb1963oh look i'm talking to myself21:14
wiakdo anyone got a clue why ubuntu will reboot it self when i run x264 encoding?21:14
t38apb1963: NOW, will it place a call????21:15
andybrineHas anyone had this issue with 13.10? It is showing a black background and i am unable to change it21:15
apb1963t38: yeah, I noticed some stuff come down with the cinnabun files, which is what made me think to try zoiper again.21:15
wiakno problem with cpu temp, its around ~40c21:15
bekkswiak: Thermal protection of the hardware, CPU overheating protection, e.g.21:15
apb1963t38: that's my next test...21:15
wiaki have a A10-5800K, Noctua cooler, so no problem with temp i belive21:16
apb1963t38: when I try to add an account I get "can't open file '/zoiper.sh' (error 13: Permission denied)"  --- which also happened on startup but I ignored it21:17
apb1963"Failed to create startup entry"21:17
andybrineIm sooo dissapointed with the 13.10 release21:18
andybrineI have had nothing but problems since installing it21:18
andybrinehas anyone else had problems with no wallpaper in 13.10?21:19
bekks!anyone | andybrine21:19
ubottuandybrine: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.21:19
miggolHey, I just upgraded to 13.10 from 13.04 on an optimus laptop. This broke my xorg (bumblebee/primus) setup, so I purged those packages and have installed nvidia-prime. I am now only able to login to Gnome Flashback no-effects, both kde and unity fail to load their respective window managers.21:20
andybrinethe wallpaper is there when first installed but after a reboot i just get a black wallpaper21:20
k1landybrine: did you set another picture as wallpaper to try it out?21:21
k1landybrine: what does .xsession-errors say?21:21
miggolStrangely in flashback glxinfo shows all the right extensions and nvidia-settings says all is fine, though under my display states it has no scanout. How can I troubleshoot this problem?21:21
andybrineI have set another wallpaper but it wont change21:21
apb1963t38: sigh... zoiper is frozen on "failed to create startup entry"21:22
l01Can I use a 64bit Live CD to chroot into a 32bit? (both are Ubuntu)21:22
bekksl01: Yes.21:22
l01Are there any downsides?21:22
bekksl01: No.21:22
l01like incompatibilities and such?21:22
Jordan_Ul01: Nope. It's only the other way around where there are issues.21:22
l01okay, thank you =)21:22
wilee-nileeandybrine, You might try a reset http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/21:22
miggolShould I check .xsession-errors after logging into unity? It seems fine from flashback21:23
apb1963t38: I told it to start at startup... so I imagine it's trying to put install into /etc/rc.d or some such... which of course it can't since i'm not root.  silly zoiper21:23
miggolJust some gnome-settings-daemon whining21:23
Diren Selamlar.21:23
andybrineok thanks wilee-nilee21:23
_BauerGuys, when I report a problem/crash, or right click on  /var/crash/some.file and report it, the apport is not opening the bug report for me to track - is that normal? how do I fix this behaviour?21:24
apb1963t38: oh look... a kill and a restart and now it registers...21:24
r3dfishhas anyone printed any of the 3d printable cases for their udoo yet, I found a couple on thingiverse21:25
t38apb1963: Interesting.  I would probably just start it with a script of my own.. Are you running the full version?21:25
andybrineI still have no wallpaper21:25
apb1963t38: free version21:26
apb1963t38: Calls out :)21:26
t38apb1963: SWEET21:26
Die_NadalAnyone using STEAM here?21:27
Die_NadalTo play games that is... ?21:27
k1l!details | Die_Nadal21:28
ubottuDie_Nadal: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:28
bitplaneHi all, I think I've found some sort of problem with either the autotools or gobject-introspection packages, and need someone familiar with autotools to help me please21:28
apb1963t38: However... it doesn't ring on incoming21:29
_Bauerguys, this problem is NOT fixed yet... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2013-October/000940.html or am I missing something? its a very big problem...21:31
jurgis_tomg! dunno what you guys did but blender just runs so much faster on my 7 year old thinkpad after the latest ubuntu update. Thank YOU!!!21:31
t38apb1963: No big deal.. You prolly didn;t wanna talk to them anyway.  Did you say you were running asterisk?21:33
tw0hi21:34
alex_hey installing ubuntu onto my macbook via usb stick, currently in trminal waiting on the last command in tutorial to finish and it is taking a while, normal?21:34
alex_hello?21:35
apb1963t38: "Them" was me.  lol  yes to *21:36
alex_anyone in here to offer ubuntu support21:36
alex_?21:36
k1l!details | alex_21:37
ubottualex_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:37
Dr_willisalex_,  and how do we know what the last command was....21:39
alex_@ubottu Im running Ubuntu 13.10 and installing it to my macbook with a usb stick, ive followed the supplied tutorial exactly and am at the last step: (Execute  sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/diskN bs=1m)     So far its been about 15 mins and no response from terminal except if i would try to close it says it will terminate the running proccess dd sudo21:39
Dr_willisa dd command can take quite a bit of time to work.21:40
Dr_willisthere will be no response untill its done21:40
alex_thank you DR Willis, appreciate it21:41
Dr_willis!tab21:41
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.21:41
bekksalex_: How big is the /path/to/downloaded.img ?21:41
Dr_willisi do hope he used the actual path to the img. :)21:41
bitplaneI'm having problems compiling gnome-sound-recorder from source, I installed gobject-introspection but this configure.ac script fails: http://pastebin.com/maEpLgPz21:41
Ben64alex_: open a second terminal, and type "sudo killall -SIGUSR1 dd"21:41
alex_thanks for the help all! it just finished *facepalm* so im gonna go do this and feel stupid bye21:41
bitplaneWould this suggest a problem with gobject-introspection package / package name or an autoconf bug?21:41
apb1963Dr_willis: And the right disk21:41
apb1963device21:41
trismbitplane: you might need libgirepository1.0-dev21:42
bitplanethanks trism!21:43
Dr_willisbitplane,  if a program is int he repos.. you can use 'sudo apt-get build-dep  packagename' that will pull in all needed dependencies to compile the app. (might be build-deps)21:43
bitplaneDr_willis, I did that but I'm checking to see if the bug in Ubuntu is also upstream, so I'm compiling git head from gnome.org21:44
rawrmonsterI have paid for Amnesia in the past and want to reinstall on my ubuntu 13.10 but it says not available for your current ubuntu version. please contact the vendor for an update. does anyone know how i can get this installed?21:44
bitplanetrism, that worked. Thank you!21:44
Dr_willissounds like its saying  it wont run in your current os version rawrmonster ...21:45
bekksrawrmonster: Ask the vendor. They do know why they are telling you it isnt available for your version.21:45
rawrmonsterbekks: i paid for it in ubuntu software center though who do i contact?21:45
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bekksrawrmonster: The author, I guess.21:46
x3medima17hello, everyone. i've just installed ElementaryOS and my battery works just for an hour (on win7 it works 4 hours), i read that problem could be in video adapter, each 5 seconds i hear that cooler starts then stops, what can I do? I own DELL Inspiron N511021:46
rawrmonsterok ty for you help21:46
bekksx3medima17: Ask the elementaryOS support, since thats not supported in here.21:46
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x3medima17bekks, on ubuntu I had same problem, I thought that it's because OS21:47
user239823Hi there, is it allowed to get support on Ubuntu One and duplicity from here?21:47
wiaki have two kernels, and want to install a new driver in 3.8 not 3.11 using dkms, can someone gimme a hint?21:48
bekksx3medima17: You are not on Ubuntu, so thats not a valid support question for this channel :)21:48
apb1963t38: had more than one softphone running (leftovers from testing)... killing them and reregistering zoiper is all it took.  I take it back, zoiper works on ubuntu 12.04 as long as you have the proper libs and whatnot...gnome/gtk for example.21:48
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user239823Does anyone know how I can get duplicity to backup to Ubuntu One?21:49
user239823(not through deja dup)21:49
bekksuser239823: You would have to mount your Ubuntu One as a filesystem, I dont know wether that is possible.21:50
t38apb1963:  GTK, yep21:51
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user239823Thanks for the reply! I checked the duplicity settings, and it mentions something about "backends and their URL format". Does that have anything to do with it?21:51
bekksuser239823: I never used duplicity.21:52
OerHeksuser239823, should be easy & standard >>21:52
apb1963t38: thanks for all the help fax guy!  lol21:52
OerHeksuser239823, see http://www.howtogeek.com/108869/how-to-back-up-ubuntu-the-easy-way-with-dj-dup/21:52
user239823OerHeks: Thanks, I'm trying to do it without Deja Dup because I'm using it with Cron.21:53
t38apb1963:  My pleasure.. Hope it all continues to work21:53
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OerHeksuser239823, it has a scheduler build in too.21:53
k1luser239823: dejadup got an own scheduler21:53
user239823OerHeks: Is it possible to change the time of schedule though?21:54
OerHeksuser239823, no, that part is poorly implented, daily or weekly21:55
ampwhow do i set macro keys21:56
andreexhi there. I installed Ubutnu 13 from mini.iso but it's not working. When it reaches the point when it would ask for a password it keeps alternating between a pink screen and a blank one. so until I find a way to fix it I want to boot from the second disk, which has Ubunto 12 LTS. As the GRUB splash screen has both systems listed I want to change the default boot disk for the moment. I've looked in the Internet, bu most sites mention file /boot/menu.lst..21:56
andreex. unfortunately I don't have this file in /boot. any hint on how to change the default boot disk on this Ubuntu machine?21:56
ampwi want it to auto type something when i press something21:56
bekksuser239823: If not, it would be pointless, would it? :)21:56
rennardclist21:56
user239823OerHeks: I see, in that case, do you know if there is a way to backup with Duplicity to Ubuntu One? I tried "duplicity --help" and it seems to mention online capabilities (gdocs, FTP, webdav), but I'm not sure how to use Ubuntu One with iut.21:58
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rennardcquit21:59
rennardcquit21:59
rennardcexit21:59
jmgkrennardc:  /quit21:59
jmgk:)21:59
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user239823A better way to phrase the question would be: is there anyway I can find out what URL Deja Dup backups to when I use Ubuntu One as the location?22:04
oliver_hello, i have a big problem, whenever i suspend, my screen wont turn on after a suspend, this happend after i upgraded to 13.10, had a lot of issues with 13.10 so downgraded to 12.04, but now my suspend doesn't work here too, it did before22:05
alex______Ok I'm back, with some more questions. I have installed Ubuntu 13.10 onto my USB stick to be used on my mac. i finished the whole tutorial process and restarted my mac and opened ubuntu from my usb stick. Now it seems Ubuntu is opening and operational, but it opens the ubuntu install client and wants me to erase and replace my mac osx with ubuntu...i dont want to do that, if at all possible id like to use ubuntu from my usb stic22:06
wiakhttps://github.com/groeck/nct6775/ <- trying to compile that22:06
alex______to ubuntu22:06
OerHeksuser239823, i can't find a good solution for duplicity.22:08
user239823OerHeks: Ok, thanks for your time anyway. Regards.22:09
oliver_alex______: you can see about using ubuntu on usb without installing here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install22:09
sha1sumso many underscores.22:10
wiakmake: *** /usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic: No such file or directory. Stop.22:10
wiak:/22:10
wiakE: Package 'linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic' has no installation candidate22:11
wiakerm22:11
sha1sumwiak: you probably need linux-headers package22:11
sha1sumoh wait22:11
sha1sumnevermind22:11
sha1sumI suppose that's the issue.22:12
wiakthe module tells me it needs 3.8.0.31 but the system only got 3.11.0-12 and 3.5.0-3922:12
ampwis there a chromium ppa?22:12
alex______<sha1sum> can i run ubuntu applications that i have on cd or dvd while in the "try" mode?22:12
UbnoobtuHey All, I'm back again with some new issues which I think are entirely from me not being thorough enough.22:13
wiakmeybe i should boot into 3.5 :P22:13
wiakand try again22:13
sha1sumwiak: probably won't solve the fact that it looks like it's wanting a specific kernel version, which seems creepy to me22:14
erpoMy Ubuntu 12.04 box is stopping at an (initramfs) prompt when I try to boot it up.  I booted from a system rescue USB flash drive and ran fsck on my root filesystem, and it indicated that it replayed the journal. However, this did not solve the problem. Suggestions?22:14
wiaksha1sum 3.8.0-31-generic is the current running kernel, but the headers are MIA22:16
oliver_ubuntu 12.04, 12.10, 13.10, iam not able to use suspend function, it just gives me a black screen when i start up after suspend22:16
sha1sumwiak: did you build your kernel from source by any chance?22:17
sha1sumwiak: either way, is there any way you can install both the kernel and headers from the same version and boot to it?22:18
wilee-nileeerpo, Is this with kernel choice at grub?22:19
wilee-nileeevery*22:19
bcgrownI upgraded to Xubuntu 13.10 and now I can't play multiple audio streams at once.  I could on 12.10 before I upgraded.  How do I make it work again?22:19
erpowilee-nilee: This is after GRUB chooses a kernel by itself and boots it.22:20
sha1sumerpo: can you choose a different one and boot to it?22:20
morishi i'm italian22:20
sha1summoris: I'm english22:20
sha1sumnice to meet you22:21
wilee-nileeerpo, Have you tried any other kernels, if you do not see grub use the shift key to show it at powering on.22:21
sha1sum:P22:21
erpowilee-nilee, sha1sum : I have tried two other, older kernels. It didn't help.22:21
wilee-nileeerpo, Any history leading to this missing here?22:22
morisshalsum: hi22:22
erpowilee-nilee, sha1sum: I've written up the details at http://pastebin.com/wHqiXRjh22:22
pawedcs22:22
pawehi22:22
sha1sum(other than killing your neighbor over the loud music)22:22
sha1sumerpo: wow. good job :)22:23
erposha1sum: Thanks! If only it had worked, I'd be really pleased with myself. :)22:24
sha1sumYeah the mdadm and RAID stuff is past my competency unfortunately :(22:25
dougielwhat is the command to get grub to scan your system for OS installs...22:25
k1ldougiel: sudo update-grub22:25
dougielKll thanks22:25
rizoleDo I need an antivirus?22:25
dougiellol22:26
sha1sumrizole: probably not.22:26
sha1sumrizole: but can't hurt.22:26
k1l!antivirus | rizole22:26
ubotturizole: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus22:26
wiakholy bokey smokes got it fixed22:26
wiaki was just missing the headers :p22:26
rizoleThank, I thought as much.22:26
sha1sumk1l: is there a list of helpful bot triggers anywhere? It seems like I've probably typed things that needn't be typed lol22:26
wiakhad to fish them out of lunchpad :P22:26
UbnoobtuI was just about to ask about home media servers. Whats the best one between linux systems?22:27
k1lsha1sum: i dont know of that list22:27
moppyUbnoobtu,   i use xmbc, i dont know which is 'best' but i know that one works22:27
wiakUbnoobtu well just use xbmc :P22:27
wiakor do you mean *server* ? :P22:27
Ubnoobtuxbmc like sony and playstation?22:27
wiaksamba with windoze computer22:27
wiaki run linux on file server22:27
wiakxmbc on win ;)22:28
Ubnoobtuwiak what is a "server22:28
Ubnoobtu*server*22:28
sha1sumUbnoobtu: what are you serving *to*?22:28
Ubnoobtu[18:27] <wiak> or do you mean *server* ? :P22:29
SuperFAQ_com_brHi22:29
wilee-nileesha1sum, There is a trigger list, I can't find it readily, but I have seen it.22:29
deamanxhey guys i have a q.My screen brightness can only be set via the terminal with "echo 100 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness" is there anyway i can make my hardware button work?22:29
sha1sumYou say "home media server". Are you talking about serving media files *to* something or are you talking about something else?22:30
wyldesha1sum, http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi22:30
sha1sumwylde: nice!22:31
hitsujiTMOdeamanx: you should be able to map the keyboard buttons to scripts with acpid or udev iirc22:31
Ubnoobtusha1sum; Well, I want to transfer files from my laptop to the computer I've just gotten running.  both are running "precise". I want the files to be on both, just not 'projected'22:32
sleepie^Is there a proprietary driver for the Intel i3 on-dye GPU?22:32
hitsujiTMOdeamanx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopSpecialKeys22:33
sha1sumUbnoobtu: probably setting up NFS is the best22:33
deamanxOk thx hitsujiTMO, Is there a reason it doesnt work with neither software or hardware?22:34
wiaksha1sum nah, just use SMB, NFS is a mess on windoze22:34
sha1sumwiak: he's got two Ubuntu machines.22:35
wiakaah22:35
sha1sum"he"22:35
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hitsujiTMOdeamanx: the only reason why it wont work by default would that its sending a non standard signal22:35
sha1sum(assumption, sorry)22:35
sleepie^Can linux-image-extra be removed? What are the extra modues?22:35
wiakdrivers i bet22:35
wiak:P22:35
wiakframeworks, apis too i think and some extra?22:35
bekkswiak: No.22:35
bekkswiak: Just drivers.22:36
hitsujiTMOsleepie^: thats your driver modules, i.e. sound, wifi, ehternet ... anything not build into the kernel22:36
deamanx"video DD02 00000087 00000000 video DD02 00000086 00000000" is what i get from acpi_listen hitsujiTMO22:36
deamanxand it does seem to trigger the software22:36
sleepie^hitsujiTMO: Ohhh, thank you.22:36
UbnoobtuHey, Thanks sha1sum, I 'm reading in to it now. Would you say it is difficult?22:37
deamanxthe brighnessbar changes but nothing happens22:37
hitsujiTMOdeamanx: then you just need to setup events for both buttons in the form of: event=video DD02 00000087      yadadada22:39
deamanxok Thx!!22:40
zerusпривет )22:47
zerusесть русские?22:47
k1l!ru | zerus22:47
ubottuzerus: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.22:47
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Die_NadalIs there a way to encrypt a folder? Ubuntu 13.1022:49
c5RzK4no way uninstall22:49
hitsujiTMO!encryption | Die_Nadal22:49
ubottuDie_Nadal: For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory22:49
Die_NadalThank you.22:50
javanichey.. does anyone know the command to use in terminal to remove old files to free up space? I'm trying to download an update and don't have the space22:50
hitsujiTMOjavanic: apt-get clean22:50
c5RzK4welcome22:50
javanichitsujiTMO,  that easy? thanks so much :)22:50
c5RzK4Die_Nadal, google will help you a lot22:51
hitsujiTMOjavanic: its will clean your apt-cache, should be a lot of old .debs there, you should also look into purging old kernels and kernel headers22:52
k1l!google | c5RzK422:52
ubottuc5RzK4: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.22:52
javanichitsujiTMO, how do i go about doing all that?22:52
Die_NadalThis means that my home directory is encrypted right ? (.Private -> /home/.ecryptfs/user/.Private)22:52
Die_Nadalor just .Private ?22:53
javanichitsujiTMO,  when i try the apt-get clean it asks me for the password, then doesn't do anything.. i don't get it lol22:54
k1ljavanic: no output does mean "no error"22:55
SchrodingersScatDie_Nadal: weird, I have an ecryptfs Private directory, I don't have a .Private folder in my /home/user/.ecryptfs though22:55
alexwis there a quick way to change the ubuntu mirror?22:56
javanick1l, I tried to do the update and it still said that I don't have enough disc space..22:56
k1ljavanic: do the "apt-get autoremove" too22:56
wilee-nileealexw, yes in software sources22:56
c5RzK4javanic, try autoremove22:56
javanick1l,  i'll try that now..22:56
alexwwilee-nilee non gui22:56
k1ljavanic: after that please show a "df -h"22:56
k1l(in a pastebin22:56
wilee-nileealexw, nano the sources.list probably and change it22:57
sha1sumnano? ew.22:57
sha1sum;)22:57
k1lalexw: you can change to the main servers in the the system settings > upgrades and software22:58
okay19How do you set the mount point of the EFI system partition in the installer?22:58
javanicjavanic@javanic-basment:~$ df -h22:58
javanicFilesystem               Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on22:58
javanic/dev/mapper/ubuntu-root  228G   29G  187G  14% /22:58
javanicnone                     4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup22:58
javanicudev                     936M  4.0K  936M   1% /dev22:58
FloodBot1javanic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:58
javanictmpfs                    189M  1.1M  188M   1% /run22:58
sha1sumwhoops.22:58
k1ljavanic: please put that into a pastebin (see the bots message)22:58
sha1sumunless we're missing something, how big is this update?!22:59
sha1sum187G available... doubt it's large enough22:59
javanichttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6315228/22:59
hitsujiTMOjavanic: can you tell me the output of: uname -r         and dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image                 and dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-header22:59
Die_Nadalschrodingersscat do you run ubuntu gnome 13.10 ?23:00
javanichitsujiTMO, I managed to get it to update with the "autoremove". Honestly I'm not too sure what you are asking me to do..23:00
javanick1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6315228/23:00
k1ljavanic: since / is big ennough but /boot is an extra partition which is quite small see if you can remove old kernel-packages23:00
sha1sumohhhh snap it's a kernel update probably23:01
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sha1summakes sense23:01
hitsujiTMOjavanic: in the terminal type these 2 commands and paste the output with pastebinit:   uname -r      dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image23:01
sha1sumwas missing something :D23:01
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wiaklets prey my server wont go down when i encode now23:03
okay19Do I need to set the mount point for an existing EFI system partition when installing?23:04
Die_NadalSo does anyone have a folder structure like this? in Ubuntu Gnome 13.10  (.Private -> /home/.ecryptfs/user/.Private)23:05
javanichitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6315241/ and yes I'm aware basement is spelled wrong lol not sure how to change it23:05
Dr_Willisokay19:  useing the custom partioning layout method? aka 'somthing else' ?23:05
hitsujiTMOjavanic: you can change basement in /etc/hostname23:06
pardusewhats my best application option to use ubuntu server in a virtual pc.Virtualbox from Oraccle or wmware player from windoz3?23:06
pardusewin 7 will be the host23:07
hitsujiTMOjavanic: run this: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.5.0-27-generic linux-image-3.8.0-21-generic linux-image-3.8.0-22-generic linux-image-3.8.0-23-generic linux-image-3.8.0-25-generic linux-image-3.8.0-26-generic linux-image-3.8.0-30-generic23:07
k1ljavanic: yoou can remove the old "linux-image-..." and "linux-header-..." packages. but keep at least one kernel installed :)23:07
Dr_Willismore '/boot is full how to i clean it out' questions? ;)23:07
Dr_Willisokay19:  chat in the channel. most of us ignore pm's23:08
okay19Ok23:08
Dr_Willisokay19:  and from that ive read of the efi install wiki page  you mount that partion to /boot/efi or somthing like that.23:08
Dr_Willis!uefi23:08
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI23:08
hitsujiTMOparduse: either should be just as good23:09
javanichitsujiTMO, running it now23:09
okay19Dr_Willis: I saw that, but the partition's type is labeled "EFI boot partition" in the list and there is no option to set the mount point.23:09
pardusety Dr_Willis & hitsujiTMO23:09
okay19Dr_Willis: So do I just leave it and install?23:09
erpoIf anyone else is having the same problem, the solution was to add the kernel option bootdegraded=yes in GRUB. Apparently one of my disks was dying in a way that *didn't* show up in /proc/mdstat even after running a check.23:09
Dr_Willisokay19:  no idea then. I have never used a uefi system.  from what i recall reading its a fat32 partion and mounted to /boot/uefi23:10
okay19Ah, ok.23:10
hitsujiTMOokay19: what exactly are you trying to do?23:10
Dr_Willisokay19:  go for it. ;)23:10
Dr_Willisinstall to a uefi system . using custome partioning.23:10
javanichitsujiTMO, ok.. it's done. do i need to check anything to make sure it's done what it needs to? or should it be assumed that all is good now?23:11
hitsujiTMOokay19: yeah, if you want to reformat the efi partition, it must be marked as ef00 (with gdisk or cgdisk) and you mount that to /boot/efi as dr_willis said23:12
Anonynimityhow would I find out the computer names connected to my network and their ip addresses via terminal?23:12
parduseAnonynimity tried users already?23:12
hitsujiTMOjavanic: have a look at: df -h23:12
AnonynimityI don't know what that is parduse...23:13
k1lDie_Nadal: its encryptfs encrypted home. you did choose that on install23:13
AnonynimityI'm looking for other device names connected to the network with their ip addresses.23:13
pardusenv that was a command for logged in users which you arent askink about23:13
javanichitsujiTMO,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6315278/23:13
jcrzaSo I found a step-by-step page to install a PXE server that enables you to pick from multiple distros on the client computer, but is there something that makes it a bit easier?23:14
hitsujiTMOjavanic: sweet, you've a crapton of space in /boot again. remember to clean it out after every few dist-upgrades23:14
javanichitsujiTMO, by just using the "autoremove"?23:14
jcrzaOop, answered my own question. ERPXE looks like what I need23:15
hitsujiTMOjavanic: by looking at what your current kernel is with: uname -r      and remove any kernels you see that are older than that listed as installed in: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image23:16
javanichitsujiTMO, ok, so use the same "apt-get purge" with whatever isn't the current kernel?23:17
hitsujiTMOjavanic: not whatever isn't just whatever is older than the kernel .. you dont want to purge newer kernels23:18
okay19Does the installer set the EFI boot partition's mount point automatically?23:18
hitsujiTMOokay19: yes it does if you let ubuntu do the partitioning23:18
okay19hitsujiTMO: What if you do it yourself, or 'something else'?23:19
javanichitsujiTMO, ok cool. thanks for the help! how do i learn how to do all this myself? is there any good resources that i can read up on?23:19
hitsujiTMOokay19: what you can do is let ubuntu do it, then go back and edit what it does23:20
hitsujiTMOjavanic: google is the best resource to be honest. wel for me anyway23:20
okay19hitsujiTMO: The problem is that the installer isn't detecting windows 8 and I'm trying a dual boot here23:20
javanichitsujiTMO, ok, thanks again.. much appreciated! :)23:21
Die_Nadalk1l yes I thought I had but wanted to know if it worked, or at least how to confirm it.23:24
hitsujiTMOokay19: its almost impossible for the installer not to pick up windows since it just needs to see the efi boot manager to see what operating systems you've installed. have you made room for the ubuntu install manually?23:28
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liuguobingREGISTER lgb634335272 634335272@qq.com23:30
liuguobingexit23:31
prxHey23:33
prxI'm trying to download some packages, and i get this weird error message: Failed to fetch http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/distribute/python-setuptools_0.6.34-0ubuntu1_all.deb  Could not connect to 69.147.225.29:3128 (69.147.225.29). - connect (111: Connection refused)23:35
prxseems like a proxy to me, but i'm not using any proxy (69.147.225.29:3128)23:36
odiumI did some magic to get lighttp to incorporate libx264 streaming libraries, but now ssl won't work, can someone set me on the right path to get them both working?23:36
hitsujiTMOprx: check your apt.conf to see if theres a proxy there23:36
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prxhow did it get there? :)23:39
hitsujiTMOprx: did you at any stage put in the proxy?23:40
prxsince its the only thing on that file, should i just make it blank?23:40
prxi never put a proxy on apt-get specifically, only for the whole network23:40
Richhhtrying to install ubuntu for dual booting with xp, checksum on iso ok, no disc defects, no ram problems, installation freezes on ubuntu . . . . . screen (whether i try to fully install or try first)23:40
hitsujiTMOprx: you should be able to safely clear it. afaik, that gets populated if you speficy a proxy during the installation install23:41
Richhh(12.04 32bit)23:41
hitsujiTMORichhh: what graphics card do you have?23:42
prxhitsujiTMO, i cleared the file but it still tries to use it, any idea how to refresh?23:42
RichhhhitsujiTMO not sure, checking...23:43
Richhhpretty sure its onboard23:43
hitsujiTMOprx, check in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ too incase there's more than one entry23:43
hitsujiTMORichhh: first try booting with the kernel option: nomodeset23:44
hitsujiTMORichhh: if that doesn't work remove the 'quiet' and 'splash' options and you should see the dmesg output at the time of the crash23:45
ampwanyone have a server23:45
hitsujiTMO!anyone | ampw23:45
ubottuampw: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.23:45
ampwhitsujiTMO: sorry wrong chat*23:45
prxhitsujiTMO, no, nothing on there.23:45
bibi346hi, in web-development, instead of sending an email when the user is waiting for the http response, some people delegate this task to some backend worker, so taht the response can be sent asap, do you know how it is called? Is there a name for this programming technique?23:46
hitsujiTMOprx: try a reboot, have you actually used that proxy before?23:46
prxi cant really tell, lets hope i did :)23:46
hitsujiTMObibi346: reverse proxy23:46
prxi'll reboot, thanks :)23:47
hitsujiTMObibi346: crap never read your question fully...23:47
hitsujiTMO!ot | delegation is the answer and this is not the place to be asking such a question. try a programming channel23:48
ubottudelegation is the answer and this is not the place to be asking such a question. try a programming channel: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:48
Richhhok hitsujiTMO , will try now, gfx card is GeForce 6200SE TurboCache23:49
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pauloboa noite23:50
paulo??23:50
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bob_i never thought i'd say it23:51
bob_but unity doesnt suck anymore23:52
jmgkhah bob_ :d23:52
prxok thats weird, rebooting didnt work23:53
prxand apt.conf is empty...23:53
hitsujiTMOprx: you getting the error on: apt-get update?23:54
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prxyep.23:54
prxany apt-get command thats trying to fetch files23:54
hitsujiTMOprx: did you ever knowingly use that proxy before?23:55
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prxi cant remember, i have been using quite alot at some point.23:55
RichhhhitsujiTMO with nomodeset i just got Starting crash report submission daemon23:56
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hitsujiTMORichhh: remove the quiet and splash params so. (and leave off nomodeset). you should get some indication of what your underlying problem is from that.23:58
prxfound the ip on etc/environment23:58
prxwhats that?23:58
hitsujiTMOprx: set as an environment var? that's bizarre23:59
Richhhit says . . . . * Starting crash report submission daemon      [OK]  but no response to enter/space/y/o/k23:59
Richhhok ill do that23:59
prxhttp_proxy="http://69.147.225.29:3128/23:59

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