[01:16] <xubuntu773> hello
[01:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> hi
[01:17] <xubuntu773> anyone have issues with missing icons on  13.10
[01:18] <xubuntu773> is posting links here aloud
[01:19] <Poisoned_Dragon> missing icons?
[01:19] <xubuntu773> i have a screen shot of it if anyone wants
[01:19] <Poisoned_Dragon> show, please
[01:19] <xubuntu773> http://imgur.com/3coGtXH
[01:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> a remote desktop connection from a win8 pc?
[01:21] <xubuntu773> yes
[01:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> You know, someone one else complained about missing elements in xfce, during a remote session.
[01:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> lemme see if my google-fu can find it
[01:22] <xubuntu773> i looked
[01:22] <xubuntu773> :(
[01:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> it ended having to do with xsession files, iirc. The ones that govern the remote session
[01:26] <xubuntu773> so its the xrdp
[01:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> here's a small tip of the ice burg
[01:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> http://ozkaya84.wordpress.com/2013/03/30/remote-desktop-to-linux-servers/
[01:30] <Poisoned_Dragon> I don't know if the problem gets bigger than that. But, alot of XRDP display issues seem to stem from needing to make an .xsession to dictate what DE you're using.
[01:34] <xubuntu773> ok reading now
[01:42] <xubuntu773> well i tried this and it seems like the company that installed the os did something wrong
[01:42] <xubuntu773> all process will not restart they way they are intendid
[01:43] <xubuntu773> gonna go rage thanks for your help
[01:44] <Poisoned_Dragon> no prob. :)
[01:56] <HunterZ> Anyone know why my audio indicator would be greyed out after an upgrade from Xubuntu x64 13.04 to 13.10? Audio itself seems to be working fine, but the indicator in the indicator panel is greyed out, and clicking it shows a very small empty popup.
[03:36] <silverlion> hey there!
[05:20] <hempfest> hello, are there any guides to getting xubuntu 13.10 properly installed on a usb stick, i tried but grub goes into some sort of panik mode and leaves me at a command line
[05:21] <hempfest> when i try and boot the stick
[05:22] <hempfest>  i am an on laptop that i have enabled legacy booting (non-efi) first. '
[05:22] <hempfest> can boot dvd's iso just fine, want a proper lnstall though, r/w filesystem and all that.
[05:23] <hempfest> on my 16gb usb stick. any suggestions thanks?'
[05:24] <hempfest> oh well
[05:24] <hempfest> i figure it ou myself, have fun!
[07:37] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys how do u change the transparency of a right click
[07:37] <Psil0Cybin> menu in xubuntu
[07:47] <atari> hi
[07:47] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys how do u change the transparency of a right click
[07:47] <Psil0Cybin> menu in xubuntu
[07:48] <atari> does anyone know whether there is a thinkpad ubuntu/linux irc channel?
[07:50] <elfy> Psil0Cybin: try settings manager > window manager tweaks > compositor tab - then opacity of popup windows
[07:51] <elfy> atari: if you mean a specific channel for thinkpads I don't know - but I doubt it
[07:54] <atari> elfy: mhm... i have a power issue...
[07:57] <Psil0Cybin> hey anyone know how to change the right click menu transparency
[07:57] <Psil0Cybin> in xfce
[07:58] <elfy> Psil0Cybin: try settings manager > window manager tweaks > compositor tab - then opacity of popup windows
[07:58] <Psil0Cybin> i didd
[07:58] <Psil0Cybin> i changed it and nothing :(
[07:58] <elfy> oh - not sure about in xfce
[07:58] <Psil0Cybin> no no im using xubuntu
[07:58] <Psil0Cybin> so its the same, i did that tho
[07:58] <elfy> is the compositor actually turned on?
[07:59] <Psil0Cybin> i googled for hrs elfy all google yeilds is panel transparency
[07:59] <Psil0Cybin> of course my inactive windows are transparent
[07:59] <Psil0Cybin> same thing as my window decorations :)
[07:59] <Psil0Cybin> i love looking sleeek
[08:02] <elfy> http://imagebin.org/274911
[08:02] <elfy> Psil0Cybin: is that not what you mean then ^^
[08:02] <elfy> not sure why inactive windows would be transparent but not right click windows
[08:02] <Psil0Cybin> yup i changed that
[08:03] <Psil0Cybin> but when i right click
[08:03] <Psil0Cybin> its only a little transparent
[08:03] <Psil0Cybin> it doesnt change if i turn it all the way to transparent
[08:03] <Psil0Cybin> i can still see a dark gray transparentish menu
[08:04] <elfy> mmm
[08:04] <elfy> if I turn it all the way to completely transparent I can't see it at all
[08:04] <Psil0Cybin> your right click menu??
[08:05] <Psil0Cybin> like u right click and dont see it?
[08:05] <elfy> yep - right click on desktop menu and any popup menus
[08:05] <Psil0Cybin> maybe i need to log off?
[08:05] <Psil0Cybin> and log back in?
[08:05] <elfy> changes are instantaneous here
[08:05] <Psil0Cybin> wtf
[08:06] <well_laid_lawn> !wtf
[08:15] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i cannot get my right click menu to be transparent in xubuntu any thing else i can try
[08:18] <Psil0Cybin> when i change the opicility of pop up window it only changes to a little bit of transparency
[08:18] <Psil0Cybin> but i cannot make it go any more
[08:52] <Arpad2> no sound after upgrade to 13.10, solutions from Google not working
[08:56] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i cannot get my right click menu to be transparent in xubuntu any thing else i can try
[09:01] <elfy> Psil0Cybin: I've not been able to find anything anywhere that comes even close to compositing working for everything but popup windows
[09:04] <Psil0Cybin> elfy: i know its super wierd man
[09:04] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot figure it out
[09:04] <Psil0Cybin>  but i found a bug report
[09:04] <Psil0Cybin> hrs after googling
[09:04] <Psil0Cybin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/325662
[09:08] <elfy> Psil0Cybin: what theme/icon sets are you using? and what release of xubuntu is it
[09:09] <Psil0Cybin> Shitu-Brave
[09:09] <Psil0Cybin> 12.04
[09:09] <Psil0Cybin> im looking through the theme files
[09:09] <Psil0Cybin> to see if its changing settings cuz its wied all other transparency works
[09:09] <Psil0Cybin> it cannot be a driver issue...its something in the settings
[09:09] <elfy> do you get the same issue if you change to default icons/themes?
[09:10] <Psil0Cybin> im using Shiki-Brave
[09:10] <Psil0Cybin> im going to try right now
[09:10] <Psil0Cybin> whata default xubuntu theme
[09:10] <elfy> greybird afaik
[09:11] <Psil0Cybin> same problem
[09:12] <Psil0Cybin> the menus are semi transparent in the applications but on desktop barley
[09:12] <Psil0Cybin> and i cannot change it no matter what theme
[09:13] <elfy> weird - have you tried to rename the .config/xfce4 and restart
[09:13] <Psil0Cybin> which config
[09:13] <elfy> or move it to desktop or something
[09:13] <Psil0Cybin> what do u mean sorry
[09:14] <elfy> the xfce4 folder in .config
[09:14] <elfy> don't delete it - just move it somewhere - then logout/in
[09:15] <elfy> Psil0Cybin: good luck - gtg now
[09:16] <Psil0Cybin> kk
[09:16] <Psil0Cybin> thanks man
[09:16] <Psil0Cybin> have a good night
[09:39] <Psil0Cybin> hey anyone here that can help me with opacity for popup messages?
[09:39] <Psil0Cybin> it doesnt seem to work for me
[09:41] <bazhang> for gnome?
[09:49] <Psil0Cybin> xubuntu
[09:49] <Psil0Cybin> im in the settings i went to Window Manager Tweaks
[09:49] <Psil0Cybin> everything works perfectly except when i change opacity of pop up windows
[09:49] <Psil0Cybin> just those pop up windows do not change
[09:49] <Psil0Cybin> everything else does
[09:58] <Psil0Cybin> bazhang:
[10:07] <thinair> Hello, does someone know can I add buttons to title bar?
[10:08] <thinair> I can move the Roll Up button from hidden window section to active section, but can I have it on bath?
[10:09] <thinair> *both
[10:09] <thinair> :D
[10:19] <thinair> Does someone know can I add buttons to the title bar?
[10:20] <thinair> I can move the RollUp button from hidden section to active section in window manager settings, but can I have it on both?
[10:21] <thinair> Somthing's wrong with xchat.. Does these messages show up? They are transparent here....
[10:21] <brainwash> thinair: that wouldn't make much sense, the button is either visible or not
[10:22] <thinair> Oh, sorry.. My misunderstanding.
[10:24] <thinair> I thought that "hidden" was some kind of mode of the window.
[10:25] <Psil0Cybin> hey anyone here that can help me with opacity for popup messages?
[10:25] <Psil0Cybin> it doesnt seem to work for me
[10:25] <Psil0Cybin> im in the settings i went to Window Manager Tweaks
[10:26] <Psil0Cybin> everything works perfectly except when i change opacity of pop up windows
[10:29] <well_laid_lawn> what pop up window are you testing with ?
[10:31] <Psil0Cybin> right click
[10:31] <Psil0Cybin> on desktop
[10:32] <Psil0Cybin> and the xubutu icon
[10:32] <Psil0Cybin> on top panel
[10:37] <well_laid_lawn> they are both menus...
[10:38] <Psil0Cybin> yea
[10:38] <Psil0Cybin> and they dont change
[10:38] <Psil0Cybin> when i change the transparency
[10:38] <Psil0Cybin> of them
[10:39] <Psil0Cybin> i want them to be transparent
[10:39] <Psil0Cybin> http://imagebin.org/274922
[10:39] <Psil0Cybin> here is a image well_laid_lawn
[10:41] <thinair> Changing popup window opacity worked perfectly for me.
[10:42] <Psil0Cybin> i know
[10:43] <Psil0Cybin> everyone keeps saying that :(
[10:43] <Psil0Cybin> everything else works perfectly
[10:43] <Psil0Cybin> but not that one setting how can i do it manually??
[10:43] <Psil0Cybin> how wierd
[10:44] <Psil0Cybin> i posted this thinair http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2183951&p=12829860#post12829860
[10:44] <Psil0Cybin> i really want to get this working its pissing me off >.<
[10:44] <brainwash> can you reproduce this issue with a new user account?
[10:46] <Psil0Cybin> i dont think a new user account would make a difference because all other setting swithin the window manager work
[10:46] <Psil0Cybin> it makes no sense that one of the settings would not work
[10:46] <Psil0Cybin> is there a file
[10:46] <Psil0Cybin> that handles popup windows
[10:47] <well_laid_lawn> you could have a look through xfconf
[10:47] <brainwash> it does not hurt to test
[10:48] <brainwash> better than flooding this channel with your strange question :P
[10:48] <well_laid_lawn> a genuine concern is not a strange question brainwash
[10:49] <Psil0Cybin> i found this well_laid_lawn brainwash thinair : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/325662
[10:49] <Psil0Cybin> it seems one person had the same problem
[10:49] <brainwash> on top of that, check ~/.xsession-errors and run "xfwm4 --replace" inside a terminal window for some debugging info
[10:51] <brainwash> just to make sure, this problem affects other themes as well and you did not make custom theme changes, right?
[10:52] <Psil0Cybin> brainwash:
[10:52] <Psil0Cybin> i found this perhaps
[10:52] <Psil0Cybin> (xfwm4-tweaks-settings:3556): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_window_group_remove_window: assertion `window->group == window_group' failed
[10:52] <Psil0Cybin> yea i did
[10:52] <Psil0Cybin> it affects all themes
[10:53] <Psil0Cybin> ugh i am so confused >.< always me
[10:54] <Psil0Cybin> i also got this
[10:54] <Psil0Cybin> (xfwm4-tweaks-settings:3551): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_window_group_remove_window: assertion `window->group == window_group' failed
[10:54] <Psil0Cybin> xfwm4-Message: xfwm4: Cannot parse color ##8c8e8d
[10:55] <well_laid_lawn> there's two # in that colour
[10:56] <Psil0Cybin> yea but it effects all themes anyway so i know thats not causing it
[10:56] <Psil0Cybin> what else could it be wow this is such a noodle scratcher
[10:56] <Psil0Cybin> if wuld make more sense if no transparency worked
[10:58] <elfy> and a whole lot easier to fix :)
[10:59] <Psil0Cybin> Baah
[10:59] <Psil0Cybin> ahaa
[10:59] <Psil0Cybin> why did u say that >.<
[10:59] <well_laid_lawn> the error says the colour can't be parsed - it's not ok
[11:01] <Psil0Cybin> so would it be in the ~./themes folder?
[11:02] <Psil0Cybin> i cant find that color code with the theme
[11:02] <Psil0Cybin> im using
[11:03] <Psil0Cybin> ill be back in a few hrs im going to get 2 hrs of sleep before i take the gf to work
[11:03] <Psil0Cybin> thanks for trying to help me for now
[11:19] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[11:20] <silv3r_m00n> i remember using xubuntu 12.04, since which version did that dock at the bottom came in ?
[11:20] <`Fibz`> before 12.04
[11:22] <silv3r_m00n> oh, its only a panel
[11:33] <xubuntu627> When I browse flash videos and read some pdf document on evince at the same time, every scroll causes the video to lag
[11:48] <bingo> hello. in session and startup, what does display chooser on login do?
[11:54] <TheSheep> bingo: displays a session chooser on login
[11:54] <bingo> ty
[11:56] <bingo> what is a good font for Albatross ?
[11:56] <bingo> it is set to Sans currently
[11:57] <bekks> Whats "Albatross"?
[11:57] <bingo> Style
[11:57] <bingo> in Appearance
[16:05] <xubuntu862> hello
[16:06] <xubuntu862> i have a question
[16:06] <xubuntu862> is there any expert?
[16:07] <thinair> You don't need ask to ask.
[16:08] <thinair> What kind of a problem?
[16:09] <xubuntu862> i need to install the 'brcmsmac' driver. to do this i need to install a "linux-backports-modules". i have problems to do this (even to download this)
[16:10] <bazhang> !find linux-backports-modules
[16:11] <thinair> Isn't brcmsmac installed in ubuntu out of the box?
[16:12] <xubuntu862> if it is. how can i load it to my "wirelass land card"?  lspci -k says that no kernel driver is loaded.
[16:13] <Sysi> what xubuntu version, what macbook?
[16:13] <thinair> It's sometimes called brcm80211.
[16:13] <xubuntu862> my notebook is an: thinkpad e130 (wlan card is Broadcom BCM4313).  i am using xubuntu 13.10
[16:14] <thinair> I have BCM4312
[16:16] <thinair> but I use wifi usb dongle.
[16:17] <xubuntu862> but it is possible to run this card on xubuntu
[16:17] <xubuntu862> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/Karten/Broadcom
[16:17] <xubuntu862> its in german unfortunately
[16:18] <xubuntu862> so how can i load a module to run this card?
[16:21] <thinair> Before I used regular ubuntu, and I had compatible driver in Additional Drivers.
[16:21] <thinair> But not anymore when using xubuntu.
[16:26] <xubuntu862> no possibility?
[16:26] <bazhang> !broadcom
[16:26] <bazhang> read that?
[16:28] <xubuntu862> ok ill check that and try it
[16:28] <xubuntu862> thank u
[18:03] <xfce> any idea why after restart xubuntu 12.04  auto start up skype and 5 times cairo-dock ?
[18:04] <Unit193> Because you saved your session, uncheck that option and remove ~/.cache/sessions
[18:04] <xfce> both of them has been removed from autostart up
[18:04] <xfce> i didnt save it
[18:06] <xfce> to erase everything in /sessions ?
[19:20] <dumnut> hi, i have ubuntu on my old 2g computer and it is running slow, would xubuntu run faster?
[19:22] <bekks> dumnut: Install xfce and see for yourself. :)
[19:22] <bekks> dumnut: No need to reinstall things or something.
[19:23] <dumnut> hi bekks, so xfce runs on ubuntu os?
[19:25] <dumnut> bekks: yup , that is what you said, sorry for me being dumb, t-y for your tip
[19:32] <esr> I'm observing logout to hang forever on a fresh Xubuntu 13.10 install.  Are others?  Is there a known workaround?
[19:35] <well_laid_lawn> esr:  what happens if you try and logout through a terminal ?
[19:36] <esr> well_laid_lawn: What command should I use to attempt this?
[19:37] <well_laid_lawn> open a terminal, type   logout   , press enter
[19:39] <esr> !!! I didn't think that'd work from X.  I'm in i3 at the moment; will probably lose my IRC connection tesing this.  Back soon.
[19:40] <dumnut> hi esr, i admire you for learning to be expert in programming
[19:40] <esr> ubottu: That's OK, lotta timea when I use IRC people think I'm an AI emulating ESR. :-)
[19:42] <esr> And in fact it doesn't work under i3. I get "bash: logout: not login shell: use `exit'".  I think that's what's going to go down under Xfce, too.
[19:45] <esr> Confirned.  "logout" from an Xfce terminal window fails with a complaint abut not a login shell.
[19:46] <esr> well_laid_lawn: You got any better idea how I can make a real logout work where it can be monitored?
[19:47] <Unit193> esr: You have systemd-shim installed?
[19:47] <esr> Unit193: If it's in the stock install.  Checking...
[19:48] <esr> Unit193: aptitude says I do.
[19:50] <Unit193> The only logout hang issue I know of was fixed in upstart.  You should have a ~/.cache/upstart/startxfce4.log, does it give any pointers?
[19:50] <esr> Looking...
[19:52] <esr> Unit193: Lots of junky GNOME and DBUS messages. No obvious clue.
[20:03] <esr> Had to reboot to get out of Xfce.  Haven't seen any taffic d=sunce I said "No obvious clue."
[20:04] <Unit193> Not seen that issue I'd say.
[20:05] <elfy> esr: and how long do you mean by forever?
[20:06] <esr> elfy: I mean "forever" forever.  The logout menu entry is a black hole, the only escape is hard-rebooting the machine.
[20:06] <elfy> bug 1227212
[20:06] <elfy> but I thought that was fixed
[20:07] <brainwash> elfy: ~10sec is not "forever"
[20:08] <brainwash> and it has been fixed quite some time ago :)
[20:08] <elfy> indeed not brainwash - but then when we were discussing that issue - I didn't think 10 seconds was a long time ;)
[20:08] <esr> I don't even get to the logout/reboot/shutdown popup.
[20:09] <brainwash> esr: run "xfce4-session-logout"
[20:09] <TheSheep> esr: that's xfce4-session-logout not logout
[20:10] <esr> OK.  Hold on, going to have to change out of i3 again...
[20:11] <esr> (I prefer i3 to xfce, I'm just reporting this bug because somebody ought to.)
[20:11] <brainwash> are you even running the xfce session?
[20:11] <brainwash> ...
[20:13] <esr> About to run xfce4-session-logout
[20:14] <esr> It returns with no errors.  But the popup does not appear, and my machine is no so laggy that my keystrokes have delayed echo.
[20:15] <TheSheep> esr: I know that it may sounds strange, but it may be a problem with graphics drivers + "display overaly windows directly" setting + the darkening of the screen of the logout dialog -- I think I had that at some point, disabling "display overlay windows directly" in window manager tweaks worked around it, you could try it
[20:15] <esr> Er, "now so laggy".
[20:16] <TheSheep> it's in the 'compositor' tab
[20:16] <esr> TheSheep: How do I access window manager teaks?
[20:16] <esr> What menu entrtry or application?
[20:17] <TheSheep> xfce4-settings-manager  then select "window manager tweaks"
[20:17] <esr> OK.  Shall reboot and attempt.
[20:17] <TheSheep> failing that, maybe stracing the xfce4-session-logout would shed some light :/
[20:18] <TheSheep> I think it only sends a message through dbus
[20:24] <esr> TheSheep: Nope.  Fund that etry, it was under "Composite th ecreen" which was disabled.  Enabled compositing, disabled display overlay windows directyly, same result.
[20:25] <TheSheep> esr: no idea then, I assume that since you say "fresh xubuntu install", you are using the default setup and are running xfce4-session, not some other session manager?
[20:25] <esr> TheSheep: Howeverm the general theory that it's a driver problem seems plausible.  *Something* is sure as hell eating my CPU.
[20:26] <esr> TheSheep: Yes.  I use i3 for production, but logging out of that works OK.
[20:26] <TheSheep> as far as I know (I'm not very knowledgable about this), all xfce4-session-logout does is sending a dbus message
[20:26] <TheSheep> and the actual logout is handled by xfce4-session itself
[20:27] <esr> Hm.  Could dbus be spinning?
[20:27] <TheSheep> maybe running dbus-monitor while trying xfce4-session-logout would be enlightening
[20:28] <esr> Could be tried.
[20:29] <esr> Trying it.  dbus-monitor now running.
[20:29] <esr> Attempting logout...
[20:31] <TheSheep> I get a lot of  string "Property "/general/AutoSave" does not exist on channel "xfce4-session""  but the dialog appears
[20:38] <esr> TheSheep: Noting obviously enlightening in the dbus messages - and I couldn't save a copy, the machine as too hung.
[20:39] <TheSheep> esr: I think I'm out of ideas, if you'd report the bug on launchpad, then much more experienced people will have a look at it
[20:40] <esr> TheSheep: Will do.
[20:40] <TheSheep> thanks
[20:52] <Arpad2> after partial upgrade to 13.10 no sound comming out of xubuntu laptop
[20:55] <TheSheep> Arpad2: alsamixer in terminal shows anything?
, it sais this: arpad@arpad-P170EM:~$ alsamixer
[20:57] <Arpad2> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[20:57] <Arpad2> arpad@arpad-P170EM:~$
[20:57] <TheSheep> Arpad2: ok, does "lsmod | grep snd" show anything?
[20:57] <TheSheep> (don't paste it here)
[20:58] <Arpad2> however, sudo alsamixer sais
[20:59] <Arpad2> TheSheep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6314698/
[21:00] <TheSheep> ok, that looks good
[21:00] <TheSheep> what about sudo alsamixer?
[21:00] <Arpad2> TheSheep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6314714/
[21:01] <TheSheep> looks like your volume on the master channel is down to 0
[21:01] <TheSheep> use arrow up to raise it
[21:03] <Arpad2> no effect
[21:04] <Arpad2> still dumb
[21:05] <TheSheep> I wonder why you had to use sudo
[21:05] <knome> i'd check pavucontrol, especially the selected output device and audio levels.
[21:06] <TheSheep> Arpad2: can you go to the settings manager -> users and settings -> your user -> advanced settings -> user priviledges
[21:06] <onr> can you upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 using the ISO file?
[21:06] <Arpad2> ok
[21:06] <TheSheep> Arpad2: and make sure you have the right to use audio devices?
[21:06] <knome> onr, yes
[21:07] <onr> knome: what i need to do?
[21:08] <knome> onr, boot the image and select upgrade
[21:08] <onr> knome: oh thank you
[21:08] <knome> no problem
[21:10] <Arpad2> TheSheep: 'Use audio devices' was unchecked
[21:12] <Arpad2> but checking it , doesn't solve the problem
[21:12] <Arpad2> perhaps with reboot?
[21:15] <bekks> Arpad2: Reboot never solves problems, not even when using Windows.
[21:17] <TheSheep> in this case a logout might, though
[21:17] <TheSheep> changes in group membership only have result after relogging
[21:38] <Sazpaimon_> so I'm trying to configure xubuntu with compiz and whisker-menu to work with the super key for shortcuts
[21:38] <Sazpaimon_> I have whisker-menu set to open with the Super_L key, and compiz set up to maximize and snap applications using Super+left/right/up, but they seem to conflict with eachother
[21:39] <Sazpaimon_> for example, simply pressing the Super key will cause whisker-menu to open, which seems to break the compiz shortcuts. is there a way to have xfce to wait until the super key is unpressed?
[21:40] <TheSheep> Sazpaimon_: I don't think you will find many people experienced with compiz or whisker-menu here, I would try at #compiz
[21:40] <TheSheep> Sazpaimon_: because compiz is not part of xfce
[21:41] <Sazpaimon_> yeah i wasnt sure if here or compiz would be the best place, because I'm using both xfce shortcuts and compiz ones
[21:41] <Sazpaimon_> but I'll try over there
[21:41] <TheSheep> I don't think you can use xfce shortcuts without running xfwm4, and I'm pretty sure you cannot run xfwm and compiz at the same time
[21:42] <Sazpaimon_> thats odd because it seems to be working fine
[21:42] <Sazpaimon_> i bound the super key to an application using the standard xubuntu keyboard shortcut settings and it worked
[21:42] <Sazpaimon_> its just that it doesnt want for the key to be unpressed before taking the action
[21:42] <Sazpaimon_> s/want/wait
[21:43] <TheSheep> maybe it shares settings with compiz?
[21:43] <Sazpaimon_> could be, I'll try disabling compiz and see if that makes it work the way I expect
[21:45] <Sazpaimon_> also, since you mentioned that many people wont know about whisker-menu here, is there any alternative application menu for xfce that people tend to use?
[21:45] <Sazpaimon_> notably one with a search feature
[21:46] <ochosi> not that i know of
[21:46] <ochosi> there's only the eOS "menu" slingshot, which can be used by adding a launcher to the panel
[21:46] <ochosi> but in my experience it's not responsive enough
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[22:26] <deamanx> hey guys i have a q.My screen brightness can only be set via the terminal with "echo 100 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness" is there anyway i can make my hardware button work?
[22:36] <bekks> deamanx: That is your hardware button replacement if it doesnt work otherwise.