[01:50] <darkxst> Laney, does debian have spidermonkey 17?
[05:06] <Laney> darkxst: in NEW
[05:19] <darkxst> Laney, right, well gjs had two seperate branches for 1.38, I could r
[05:19] <darkxst> prepare a package with the other non js17 branch
[05:19] <darkxst> but the real improvements come from spidermonk
[05:19] <darkxst> spidermonkey,
[05:35] <darkxst> Laney, also gnome-shell and cinnamon need to be patched due to an api change
[06:11] <pitti> Good morning
[07:01] <jibel> Good morning
[07:59] <mlankhorst> oh btw, good morning
[09:58] <mlankhorst> oh great, storm incoming. :o
[15:53] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[15:54] <czajkowski> aloha
[15:55] <qengho> desrt: http://thecodelesscode.com/case/6
[15:57] <Mirv> jetlag morning
[15:58] <sil2100> seb128: hello! How was the flight?
[15:59] <seb128> sil2100, hey, good, I was in Canada before so short flight for me
[15:59] <sil2100> Ah, hacky but nice ;)
[15:59] <Mirv> hey sil2100 :)
[15:59] <sil2100> seb128: quick question - could you add me to the ~lightdm-team? I need to redeploy something in cu2d-config but I can't since I don't have access there
[16:00] <sil2100> Mirv: morning! Didn't see you log in as well! How was your flight? ;)
[16:00] <Mirv> sil2100: log in? I'm always online except for vacations
[16:01] <Mirv> sil2100: flight was "the usual", but it went alright. first night also "the usual", but not the worst.
[16:01] <Mirv> feeling relatively good
[16:01] <sil2100> Mirv: I meant like, log in like, log into our world ;)
[16:01] <seb128> sil2100, I'm not a lightdm admin, needs robert_ancell there
[16:02] <seb128> Laney, where are you?
[16:02] <seb128> desktop room is kind of not full
[16:02] <sil2100> seb128: well, LP says you are ;)
[16:02] <sil2100> seb128: Sebastien Bacher 2011-08-09 – Administrator
[16:02] <seb128> sil2100, oh, I don't feel like I'm active enough in that team to add peoples
[16:03] <seb128> it's a bit suboptimal that the integration team needs to be given full access to all the upstream projects that way
[16:03] <sil2100> Ah, ok, well, it's still a requirement for us from the unity integration team to have access to all branches that we release, so I'll have to poke Robert later on
[16:03] <sil2100> Since otherwise we can't get stuff done
[16:03] <sil2100> Like for instance, now :|
[16:04] <Mirv> sil2100: can't you use -S?
[16:04] <seb128> sil2100, can you mp it so I can approve it/get it in?
[16:04] <sil2100> Mirv: didn't help strangely, I redeployed with -S and the project was still disabled
[16:05] <Mirv> sil2100: hmm, okay
[16:05] <Mirv> sil2100: -US?
[16:05] <seb128> Mirv, where are you guys? aren't you supposed to be in the desktop room?
[16:05] <Mirv> seb128: ah we're seeing the plenary session even though technically we wouldn't need to
[16:05] <sil2100> Mirv: -US didn't try ;) Maybe this is the secret technique here
[16:06] <seb128> Mirv, oh ok, weird that most desktop people are not in the desktop room
[16:06] <seb128> Mirv, is the plenary any good?
[16:07] <Mirv> seb128: we're coming soon. plenary mostly reiterating what we know, but it's always useful to refresh one's mind.
[16:07] <seb128> ok
[16:13] <mterry> attente, is there a mailing list for indicator developers?
[16:13] <mterry> tedg, ^?
[16:24] <Laney> seb128: here now!
[16:28] <seb128> mterry, not really, why?
[16:28] <seb128> Laney, hey ;-)
[16:29] <Laney> hey
[16:29] <mterry> seb128, I wanted to give a warning/request-for-work about the new indicator mode phone_greeter (an analog for desktop_greeter)
[16:29] <Laney> did you see the autopilot MP?
[16:29] <Laney> !!!
[16:29] <mterry> tedg, ^ is that enough warning?  :)
[16:30] <seb128> mterry, just pinging larsu / charles / ted is enough I guess ;-)
[16:30] <seb128> Laney, yeah, it's next on todolist
[16:30] <charles> mterry, yes ted was talking about that this morning
[16:31] <Laney> Looks like all of those could be run as autopkgtest also
[16:31] <Laney> if we want to do that
[16:38] <seb128> Laney, that would be good
[16:59] <didrocks> kenvandine: robru: Mirv: sil2100: cyphermox: hey guys!
[16:59] <kenvandine> hey didrocks
[16:59] <robru> didrocks, where are you? we are in 208
[16:59] <didrocks> robru: I'm in the client sprint, 3rd floor
[16:59] <sil2100> Hi!
[16:59] <sil2100> :)
[16:59] <didrocks> hey sil2100, how are you?
[17:00] <didrocks> let's try to fit and finish the Mir shipping together :)
[17:00] <sil2100> Not bad, feeling a bit alone! It feels as if almost all teams are gone ;p
[17:00] <didrocks> sil2100: heh, indeed, quiet time ;)
[17:00] <robru> sil2100, are you not in oakland?
[17:00] <sil2100> At least in the mornings
[17:00] <didrocks> sil2100: is everything built now for Mir?
[17:00] <sil2100> robru: sadly not
[17:00] <robru> sil2100, nooo! we miss you!
[17:01] <Mirv> heya didrocks
[17:01] <sil2100> didrocks: the platform stack is still not ready, didn't notice that platform-api got actually yellow
[17:01] <sil2100> didrocks: because there was a direct push to distro
[17:01] <sil2100> didrocks: it's fixed and rebuilding
[17:01] <sil2100> didrocks: cyphermox now takes care of that
[17:01] <didrocks> excellent!
[17:01] <sil2100> didrocks: in the meantime, I confirmed on my desktop that XMir is working
[17:01] <Mirv> sil2100: didrocks: do you have / should you have the mir status tracking in the landing pipeline doc?
[17:01] <sil2100> (from the PPA)
[17:01] <didrocks> cyphermox: so, once that's done, you are going to test that and ship it!
[17:01] <didrocks> sil2100: \o/
[17:02] <didrocks> sil2100: do you know if xserver is just a rebuild or has a patch?
[17:02] <cyphermox> didrocks: yeah
[17:02] <didrocks> Mirv: please update it :)
[17:02] <didrocks> Mirv: but yeah, agreed
[17:02] <cyphermox> didrocks: I'll rebuild xserver-xorg-xmir in the PPA as well soon
[17:02] <Mirv> didrocks: I'd need sil2100 since I don't what he has tested :)
[17:02] <cyphermox> so heads up w.r.t PPA usage...
[17:02] <didrocks> sil2100: updating the spreadsheet?
[17:03] <didrocks> cyphermox: do you know if it's just a rebuild? no patch needed?
[17:03] <sil2100> didrocks: from what I know it's just a rebuild
[17:03] <Mirv> sil2100: I think there are already a lot of columns in the landing 268 but just add more..
[17:03] <didrocks> sil2100: did you check in the PPA?
[17:03]  * didrocks looks
[17:03] <sil2100> didrocks: yes
[17:03] <cyphermox> didrocks: supposed to be just a no-change rebuild... that's what you said on friday
[17:03] <sil2100> Mirv: ok, although I only did desktop testing ;)
[17:03] <didrocks> cyphermox: sil2100: dont' trust, check! :)
[17:03] <didrocks> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/155015439/xorg-server_2%3A1.14.3-3ubuntu3_2%3A1.14.3-3ubuntu3trusty0.diff.gz
[17:03] <sil2100> didrocks: * Rebuild for mir-team staging PPA
[17:03] <didrocks> yeah, it is ^
[17:03] <didrocks> sil2100: don't trust the changelog! :)
[17:04] <sil2100> hehe
[17:04] <sil2100> Right!
[17:04] <didrocks> ok, cyphermox: you are handling that one then? if you publish to distro, just wait for Mir to be published in proposed and do that upload as well?
[17:04] <cyphermox> so sil2100, you can follow on the premise that I'm doing the ABI stuff, yeah
[17:04] <cyphermox> yeah
[17:04] <Mirv> sil2100: ok, so are you testing the touch now too? it smoke tested fine for me already last week, but of course there are now new changes as well
[17:04] <didrocks> once Mir will be unblocked, we'll be able to resume activies as normal
[17:04] <Mirv> (the mirserver9/mirclient4)
[17:04] <didrocks> cyphermox: thanks a lot, good luck :)
[17:05] <cyphermox> didrocks: gonna need more than luck
[17:05] <cyphermox> didrocks: it's more like "good code"
[17:05] <didrocks> maybe divide the testing/dogfooding
[17:05] <cyphermox> :)
[17:05] <didrocks> so that we even have more luck
[17:05] <didrocks> :)
[17:05] <didrocks> Mirv: you can pair with robru to show him (as he doesn't have the device) how you are testing things ^
[17:05] <robru> didrocks, can you get me a device? :-P
[17:05] <sil2100> Mirv: once the platform-api bits are rebuilt I can try testing, but it's already late around here ;)
[17:05] <didrocks> I think that would be a good tutoring :)
[17:06] <cyphermox> robru: msm. I think
[17:06] <didrocks> robru: working with people to get you one :)
[17:06] <robru> didrocks, great, thx
[17:06] <cyphermox> didrocks: ok so you are handling it?
[17:06] <sil2100> robru: I'll be missing you guys too! I already do miss the desktop team actually, all alone in my EU mornings ;)
[17:06] <didrocks> cyphermox: oh no, it's all on you now :)
[17:06] <didrocks> I think, handle the mechanical piece
[17:06] <cyphermox> didrocks: what?
[17:06] <Mirv> didrocks: I just plugged my nexus4 into robru's machine :)
[17:06] <didrocks> and Mirv/robru pair on the testing side
[17:06] <cyphermox> didrocks: you mean getting robru a device?
[17:06] <didrocks> cyphermox: ah that, yeah, I'll try, don't worry
[17:06] <cyphermox> ok
[17:07] <didrocks> (I thought you talked about Mir)
[17:07] <cyphermox> didrocks: in the meantime I have a maguro robru can use
[17:07] <didrocks> cyphermox: for Mir, do you think it's a good idea?
[17:08] <cyphermox> didrocks: should work.
[17:08] <cyphermox> didrocks: there is no alternative, unless there is a free mako somewhere
[17:08] <didrocks> cyphermox: ok, mind letting him meanwhile? at least for this week?
[17:08] <didrocks> yeah
[17:08] <cyphermox> didrocks: yes, that's what I meant
[17:08] <didrocks> oh right, that would be sweet!
[17:08] <cyphermox> I brought it specifically for that reason
[17:08] <didrocks> thanks cyphermox :)
[17:09] <cyphermox> didrocks: can we leave you to harass the necessary people to fix Mir on nakasi?
[17:09] <cyphermox> I mean, grouper
[17:09] <cyphermox> damn codenames :)
[17:09] <didrocks> cyphermox: I'm a professional harasser :)
[17:10] <cyphermox> yay
[17:10] <cyphermox> didrocks: where are you?
[17:10] <didrocks> cyphermox: in the client room (3rd floor)
[17:11] <cyphermox> ah ok
[17:20] <sil2100> didrocks, cyphermox, Mirv, robru: be sure to send me an e-mail near your EOD on what has been done and what needs to be done in my EU timezone, this way we'll have things worked on during your sleep ;)
[17:20] <robru> sil2100, will do
[17:21] <didrocks> sil2100: work done while we are sleeping (or waiting because of jetlagged?)? Loving it! :)
[17:22] <sil2100> ;p
[17:29] <Mirv> sil2100: I guess we need to retest the desktop side as well from the daily-build PPA
[17:29] <Mirv> but that's quick with the correctly build packages, the device side is more difficult
[17:30] <Mirv> especially since I now haven't found a way to run Unity 8 AP:s - which are known to be broken but should be somehow (how?) fixed with the new Mir now
[17:30] <sil2100> Mirv: so when running them 'normally' they all still fail even with the latest mir and unity8? Or you didn't try the latest bits yet?
[17:31] <Mirv> sil2100: I tested them on Friday, and yes they fail when I do it the way I did have them running with Mir before
[17:31] <Mirv> sil2100: but I haven't used the 'install utah locally' method, have you?
[17:32] <Mirv> I've just used phablet-test-run -n
[17:32] <sil2100> Mirv: I used it in the past, yes - let me maybe try this now
[17:32] <sil2100> Mirv: you know if all platform-api bits are rebuilt already now?
[17:33] <sil2100> Mirv: anyway, the instructions are on the wikipage (at least they should be)
[17:36] <didrocks> Mirv: maybe disable the automated rebuild if there is one coming soon
[17:36] <Mirv> sil2100: the instructions are there but I'm worried they're not the perfect ones (yet). so if we find anything additional let's just update the page.
[17:37] <Mirv> didrocks: where's the schedule right now?
[17:37] <Mirv> there's a build ongoing atm, though
[17:37] <didrocks> Mirv: don't trust me, look at the _all-build job
[17:37] <didrocks> with dailight saving and time shift, I have no idea :)
[17:37] <Mirv> ah.
[17:37] <Mirv> thrice a day
[17:38] <Mirv> so you're right, in 20mins
[17:40] <Mirv> cyphermox disabled it now with toggle_stack_state
[17:40] <cyphermox> sil2100: btw, that's in cupstream2distro-config; see --help
[17:40] <cyphermox> for the magic everything job, that's
[17:41] <cyphermox> ./toggle_stack_state.py -r head build_all --disable
[17:41] <sil2100> Oh, nice
[17:41] <cyphermox> we'll hopefully re-enable before EOD
[17:41] <Mirv> sil2100: so, platform-api was built but now qtubuntu is building, and then unity-mir
[17:47] <seb128> larsu, can you add a testcase to bug #1199877 ?
[17:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1199877 in Unity 7.1 "unity-panel-service memory leak and 100% CPU usage" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1199877
[17:47] <sil2100> Mirv: ok, thanks, let's wait for those to finish then
[18:14] <Laney> darkxst: 17> don't bother, we can upload it there when it's through
[18:14] <Laney> darkxst: & do you have debdiffs for the patches handy?
[18:18] <seb128> dobey, is https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/94f7beb32c9a9172de3f9281691510762d655d47 on your todolist? it's one of the most reported saucy issue
[18:20] <dobey> seb128: no, webkit bugs don't make my todo list
[18:22] <seb128> dobey, if it's a wekbit bug you might want to reassign it there so webkit maintainers see it on their list?
[18:22] <seb128> dobey, rather than keeping it on -s-c and ignoring it
[18:22] <dobey> i thought i did
[18:23] <seb128> dobey, the tracker has https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1211887 for it
[18:23] <ubot2> seb128: Error: launchpad bug 1211887 not found
[18:23] <seb128> which is on s-c
[18:23] <dobey> seb128: it's 1163886
[18:23] <seb128> dobey, that's not reassigned either
[18:24] <dobey> yes i know. i said "i thought i already did"
[18:24] <seb128> k
[18:24] <dobey> what is the webkit source package?
[18:24] <seb128> it would still be nice if you could look at it/upstream the bug at least
[18:24] <seb128> "webkit"
[18:26] <dobey> ok, added webkit (Ubuntu) to the bug
[18:26] <Laney> speaking of that
[18:26] <dobey> i don't have the time to go chasing upstream for it though
[18:26] <Laney> can we take webkitgtk?
[18:28]  * Laney adds it to todo
[18:28] <seb128> Laney, webkitgtk?
[18:29] <Laney> http://packages.qa.debian.org/w/webkitgtk.html
[18:29] <seb128> Laney, oh, webkit2, that's being discussed a bit on ubuntu-desktop]
[18:29] <seb128> @
[18:30] <Laney> oh yeah I remember seeing that
[18:31] <Laney> should be alright, it provides the old api
[18:34] <seb128> Laney, the issue was the xerror bug, but it seems we already have that in the current version
[18:35] <Laney> yeah?
[18:35] <Laney> is that confirmed?
[18:41] <seb128> Laney, well, https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/94f7beb32c9a9172de3f9281691510762d655d47
[18:42] <Laney> ah
[18:43] <Laney> yes indeed, I clicked into an instance and found the old one
[18:43] <Laney> xnox: do you remember this bug ^? Did your reproducer require the new webkit?
[18:48] <sil2100> Mirv: need to EOD for now, but if I get some tests running later on I'll be updating the spreadsheet
[18:48] <sil2100> o/
[19:20] <GunnarHj> attente: Hi Will, do you have a minute to talk about bug 1240058?
[19:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1240058 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "UI uses chinese, french and english simultaneously" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1240058
[19:25] <Mirv> robru: apt-get install libunity-mir1 libplatform-api1-hybris libubuntu-application-api-mirclient1 libubuntu-application-api-mirserver1 libubuntu-application-api1 libubuntu-platform-hardware-api1 libmirclient4 libmirplatform libmirprotobuf0 libmirserver9 unity8 unity8-fake-env unity8-private
[19:26] <robru> Mirv, thanks
[19:31] <tedg> xnox, Ubiquity is confusing.
[19:32] <tedg> xnox, I want to add "init --user --startup-event indicator-services-start" to the startup
[19:32] <tedg> xnox, Where do I do that?
[19:32] <ogra_> ubiquity ships its own dm
[19:32] <tedg> Kinda, it seems to start a bunch of others...
[19:33] <ogra_> DMs ?
[19:33] <ogra_> no
[19:33] <tedg> And that's what confusing
[19:33] <tedg> Well I guess multiple WMs
[19:33] <TheMuso> tedg: You probably want the ubiquity panel code in src/panel I believe.
[19:33] <ogra_> iirc it uses start on starting "list of all DMs we know"
[19:33] <TheMuso> IIRC the panel code deals with the indocators.
[19:34] <ogra_> so that it blocks them
[19:34] <tedg> Yeah, i was thinking it was bin/ubiquity-dm because that's starts nm-applet
[19:34] <tedg> But I'm not sure how to parse all the 'ifs"
[19:34] <ogra_> ah, yeah, it tries to cover all cases for flavours
[19:35] <ogra_> (xubuntioo doesnt ship compiz, kde uses kdm etc etc)
[19:35] <ogra_> *xubuntu
[19:35] <ogra_> err
[19:35] <ogra_> kwm
[19:35] <tedg> So I'm not sure how to handle all that.
[19:36] <ogra_> look for the compiz start code
[19:36] <ogra_> you most likely only want to change that one
[19:37] <tedg> I'm thinking it should be in the same cases that we run the ubiquity panel.
[19:38] <ogra_> yeah, most likely
[19:39] <tedg> Is there a way to test this?
[19:39] <tedg> Aside from finding a machine that needs an install?
[19:39] <tedg> :-)
[19:40] <ogra_> a VM ?
[19:40] <ogra_> (btw, there is #ubuntu-installer)
[19:41] <tedg> Hmm, okay.  I don't have the disk space for it in my laptop.
[19:41] <tedg> :-/
[19:41] <tedg> Okay, apparently it's lunch time.  thanks for the help ogra_!
[19:41] <ogra_> :)
[20:48] <darkxst> Laney, nope, but its just this patch from git https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=11d997c42bb265d29aec84b88ea9ecdd51a2dfe9
[21:02] <jasoncwarner_> hey seb128 and ted, having an issue with my phone atm. I think I mistyped my password for a wifi connection and now I can't find a way to retype it! it just won't connect and no way to change/clear it or what not.
[21:03] <jasoncwarner_> just an FYI, really...bug and testing thingy
[21:09] <darkxst> Laney, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/146223575/gnome-shell_3.8.3-1ubuntu4_3.8.3-1ubuntu5.diff.gz
[21:18] <cyphermox> jasoncwarner_: can I help?
[21:18] <cyphermox> jasoncwarner_: the password changelog and removing connections is something that is planned, right ted?
[21:48] <mterry> robert_ancell, "Logging to /var/log/lightdm/(null)-greeter.log"
[21:48] <robert_ancell> mterry, ah
[21:49] <robert_ancell> mterry, you can probably set the ID to "mir" by default and then set it when you connect the session to the display server
[21:49] <robert_ancell> that log should probably be based on the greeter name, not the display server name
[21:49] <mterry> robert_ancell, agreed
[21:49] <mterry> robert_ancell, another session vs server problem
[21:50] <robert_ancell> yep