=== mrmist is now known as mist [12:53] !prayer [12:53] Dear $DEITY, Give me strength to understand and work with users who question my logic, the rules, netiquette, and common sense. Give me resilience to teach them the basics of Linux, Ubuntu, Community Guidelines, and IRC. Allow me not to stray to nitpicking, argument, foul language, or leisurely op abuse. Deliver me my daily xkcd, User Friendly, LWN, /. and Planet Ubuntu, and guard over my encrypted drives. Let it be so. [14:17] Wonder what zipper wanted [14:19] Maybe you've helped them in the past & its a typical ping the last person that helped [14:19] not a chance [14:20] I was rather sarcastic and dismissive to them last time we spoke [14:21] Heh [14:21] IdleOne: always be yourself [14:21] If its important, I'm sure they'll return and ask [14:21] lol Pici, you sure you want that from me? [14:42] mneptok: it is all YOUR fault. [14:44] poor mneptok [14:45] mneptok: dont worry though, we love you still :D [14:45] well, yeah of course. [15:14] Hello, why am I muted on #ubuntu? [15:14] please unmute. [15:15] DJones? [15:15] lanser aka syko you know exactly why you are muted [15:15] it's been a month, k1l_. [15:16] I've learned my lessons. [15:16] now, you may unmute me without no fear of me breaking the rules :-) [15:16] I just want to contribute, k1l_. [15:16] you have been trouble for a long time. you ban evaded with different nicks, accounts and ips. you blackmailed the operators. .... [15:17] i see this behaviour everytime you got a support issue. but after that issue is solved you become the problem user you used to be. im not willing to release that ban [15:18] i told you you should make a clear start on ubuntuforums or askubuntu. maybe that way of communication suits you better. [15:20] k1l_: I will not do this again. [15:20] everybody deserves chances, kl1_. [15:20] even Flannel agrees somehow. [15:21] Lanser: what about the times you came in here pretending someone else to get the bans lifted? that didnt happen only ones. [15:22] That was a MONTH ago, k1l_. [15:22] I have learned my lessons. [15:22] just one last chance, k1l_? [15:22] to be honest: a user who acted that much against several freenode policies schould not be allowed to wear a cloak. [15:22] k1l_: you're not an freenode-operator, so yes. [15:23] anyways, unmute me. [15:23] I will not break the #ubuntu's rules. [15:23] I'll behave. [15:28] Lanser: Why do you need access to #ubuntu? [15:30] So I can contribute, and help people. [15:31] ok. [15:32] did I get unbanned? [15:32] I just got unbanned for a minute. [15:32] yes [15:32] than I got banned again. [15:32] k1l_: why. [15:32] because you broke ubuntu guidelines and freenode rules, again [15:32] I am not breaking freenode rules, k1l_> [15:32] anyways, k1l_. [15:32] unmute me. [15:32] you did not get unbanned [15:32] I did get unbanned. [15:32] the staff should really take a look at you since you were ban evading on purpose again [15:33] IdleOne: can I just fucking use a proxy. [15:33] you rejoined without your cloak to evade the ban. [15:33] Now you have no chances left. [15:33] is using a proxy to ban-evade allowed? [15:33] and changing a nick. [15:33] oh wait [15:33] sorry [15:33] dude [15:33] im sorry [15:33] no, also please don't swear === Lanser2 is now known as Lanser [15:33] why is swearing not allowed? [15:34] everybody knows the word "fuck" [15:34] nobody under 12 doesn't hang out at #ubuntu. [15:34] plus, its not that offensive. [15:34] fuck fuck fuck fuck. [15:34] see? [15:34] I don't understand why "fuck" is considered a bad word. [15:34] Well as far as I am concerned this discussion is over. I was willing to talk with you, but you were not patient enough and decided to revert back to your childish behaviour. [15:35] Please don't come back and please stay out of our channels. Have a nice day. [15:36] alright IdleOne. [15:36] your bans are fucking useless anyway. [15:36] I can just use a proxy, and an another nick. [15:36] an un-registered nick. [15:36] like a random nick. [15:36] you can't stop me. [15:36] fuck you. [15:37] I'll enter #ubuntu when I want. [15:37] and talk shit WHEN I WANT. [15:37] if you manage to behave there, then there's no problem [15:37] i'll be making little kids do rape, IdleOne [15:37] staff Lanser using his cloak to try and evade bans aka syko [15:37] can you stop me [15:37] if you act like an idiot, you'll be banned [15:37] it's really simple as that [15:37] ah Myrtti. [15:37] that sounds good to me. [15:37] Myrtti: actually not [15:37] I will not hold my breath though. [15:37] a ban evade is not the solution [15:38] IdleOne: are you aware of the fact that all your bans are like a sack of shit? [15:38] Myrtti: hold your breath and fucking die. [15:38] * Myrtti sighs at her stupid script not working as planned [15:39] Myrtti: btw, you're not in ops-team [15:40] yeah, we could use you in there. Also we miss you :) [15:40] good for you [15:40] :/ [15:43] seriously though, if he manages to behave on the channel and be a productive member of the community, you won't be none the wiser. If he messes up, he messes up and gets banned. [15:44] bans are meant to stop disruption to the channel, not to punish people. If they manage to not disrupt things, then more power to them and us [15:44] Myrtti: we are all through this several times now. the bantracker explodes of his entries with severeal nicks, several user accounts which still are cloaked. [15:44] Myrtti: I agree, but in the middle of trying to get his ban removed he intentionally evaded, this is why I banned him this time. [15:44] IdleOne: as I would have as well [15:46] k1l_: if you want to have the cloaks removed, collect all the evidence into an email and send it to support@freenode.net - it's far more effective and allows staff members to discuss things with equal amount of information shared with each other than just mentioning things in passing here [15:46] mind you, sending that email isn't any guarantee that the cloak will be yanked [15:46] but it leaves the staff with a paper trail in that end too. [15:47] it's far too complicated issue to be decided upon by some lonely newb freenode staffer like me :-P [17:35] * [d4rkt1m3s] (40eb6b01@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.235.107.1): nnfwrd2.nearnorthschools.ca/64.235.107.1 [17:35] is that lanser? [17:36] asking for a cloak so he can ban evade in -ot [17:36] hi [17:36] you guys have some sort of problem with me?: [17:36] let me check, just a moment please [17:39] I know exactly what the problem is. It's your IP-based ban. [17:40] were you asking about debain/suse/centos? [17:40] i was [17:40] ok, thats you then [17:41] let me inquire a bit further, just a moment [17:41] honestly, I've been watched like a hawk because my IP is associated with a bunch of idiots. [17:42] are you in a hurry? I am still checking [17:42] I'm a little annoyed [17:43] LjL: you. [17:43] yes, me [17:44] you've got a serious problem, man. [17:44] oh, i probably do, but this channel is not for discussing my problems [17:44] i'm sure i can find other venues to do that [17:45] it's affecting me greatly. stop watching me so tightly. [17:45] d4rkt1m3s, i'm afraid that's not possible. i unbanned you with a clear provision that i'd need to keep a watch on your address, as it had been used by - whether it was you or not - markedly abusive people [17:46] i additionally warned you a few minutes ago in #ubuntu-offtopic that you should tread very lightly in your current situation [17:46] instead, you called someone a pedo. banning you again was the only sensible thing i could do. [17:46] that ban is not going to be removed at the present time., [17:46] this guy was advocating tor. I've used the onion. it's not a good place. [17:47] * d4rkt1m3s shudders. [17:47] oh, so you're a pedo too? (using your own logic) [17:47] I was merely trying to keep people from seeing things that are VERY uncomfortable. [17:47] I was there because of idiots like that guy. [17:48] and I was paranoid for months afterward. [17:48] well, Tor is a tool that can be used for many purposes, and i'm pretty sure just connecting a Tor client to IRC has extremely little to do with pedophilia or much of anything [17:49] well, I'm sorry, but I've had bad experiences with tor. VERY BAD experiences. [17:49] * d4rkt1m3s shudders again. [17:49] in any case, it should be any person's common sense, at least any person who we'd welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic, that you don't just go around accusing people of something like that for no reason. so, from my point of view, you're clearly not prepared to be in the channel. [17:49] I've been around, man. statistics don't lie. [17:50] I can admit that what I said was rash, but I really don't like pedophiles. [17:50] enough [17:51] you won't be here accusing someone to be a pedophile with no evidence just because they've been using Tor (which you have too) [17:51] so, this discussion is over unless you have something important to say *about the ban* [17:51] which i HAD [17:51] I'm justifying my behaviour. which directly has something to do with the ban. [17:53] I feel that I should formally apologize to (zipper?) pretty sure that's what his nick was. but watch him, please. anyone who uses tor is bad news, in my opinion. [17:53] well that particular justification seems too weak for me to entertain it as a valid reason to cancel the ban. if you want, you can come back and discuss this again in a month or so, when perhaps you're more acquainted with freenode's culture. [17:54] tor is bad news. [17:55] got you [17:55] ? [17:55] well, see you at a later point [17:55] jerk. [18:50] any idea what jboii needs? mouse support? [19:13] bazhang: I figure a few scenarios: The cursor is still on the broken screen and it's not being moved off the edge onto the unbroken screen or: Whatever broke the screen broke the usb port or: They need to do the FN key combo on their laptop which makes it only be using the external monitor ...but I don't currently have time to devote to assisting properly in the channel [19:15] genii, he finally said "my usb mouse doesn't work, after entering with "my monitor is broken" [19:17] bazhang: As I understand his original issue, his LCD screen on laptop broke ( perhaps taking usb port with it), and now his usb mouse doesn't seem to either have a cursor or move the cursor on the external monitor he plugged in. [19:17] genii, his multiple line posting made that a bit hard to decipher === jayne_ is now known as jayne