[12:53] <Pici> !prayer
[14:17] <IdleOne> Wonder what zipper wanted
[14:19] <DJones> Maybe you've helped them in the past & its a typical ping the last person that helped
[14:19] <IdleOne> not a chance
[14:20] <IdleOne> I was rather sarcastic and dismissive to them last time we spoke
[14:21] <DJones> Heh
[14:21] <Pici> IdleOne: always be yourself
[14:21] <DJones> If its important, I'm sure they'll return and ask
[14:21] <IdleOne> lol Pici, you sure you want that from me?
[14:42] <IdleOne> mneptok: it is all YOUR fault.
[14:44] <jussi> poor mneptok
[14:45] <jussi> mneptok: dont worry though, we love you still :D
[14:45] <IdleOne> well, yeah of course.
[15:14] <Lanser> Hello, why am I muted on #ubuntu?
[15:14] <Lanser> please unmute.
[15:15] <Lanser> DJones?
[15:15] <k1l_> lanser aka syko you know exactly why you are muted
[15:15] <Lanser> it's been a month, k1l_.
[15:16] <Lanser> I've learned my lessons.
[15:16] <Lanser> now, you may unmute me without no fear of me breaking the rules :-)
[15:16] <Lanser> I just want to contribute, k1l_.
[15:16] <k1l_> you have been trouble for a long time. you ban evaded with different nicks, accounts and ips. you blackmailed the operators. ....
[15:17] <k1l_> i see this behaviour everytime you got a support issue. but after that issue is solved you become the problem user you used to be. im not willing to release that ban
[15:18] <k1l_> i told you you should make a clear start on ubuntuforums or askubuntu. maybe that way of communication suits you better.
[15:20] <Lanser> k1l_: I will not do this again.
[15:20] <Lanser> everybody deserves chances, kl1_.
[15:20] <Lanser> even Flannel agrees somehow.
[15:21] <k1l_> Lanser: what about the times you came in here pretending someone else to get the bans lifted? that didnt happen only ones.
[15:22] <Lanser> That was a MONTH ago, k1l_.
[15:22] <Lanser> I have learned my lessons.
[15:22] <Lanser> just one last chance, k1l_?
[15:22] <k1l_> to be honest: a user who acted  that much against several freenode policies schould not be allowed to wear a cloak.
[15:22] <Lanser> k1l_: you're not an freenode-operator, so yes.
[15:23] <Lanser> anyways, unmute me.
[15:23] <Lanser> I will not break the #ubuntu's rules.
[15:23] <Lanser> I'll behave.
[15:28] <IdleOne> Lanser: Why do you need access to #ubuntu?
[15:30] <Lanser> So I can contribute, and help people.
[15:31] <IdleOne> ok.
[15:32] <Lanser2> did I get unbanned?
[15:32] <Lanser2> I just got unbanned for a minute.
[15:32] <k1l_> yes
[15:32] <Lanser2> than I got banned again.
[15:32] <Lanser2> k1l_: why.
[15:32] <k1l_> because you broke ubuntu guidelines and freenode rules, again
[15:32] <Lanser2> I am not breaking freenode rules, k1l_>
[15:32] <Lanser2> anyways, k1l_.
[15:32] <Lanser2> unmute me.
[15:32] <IdleOne> you did not get unbanned
[15:32] <Lanser2> I did get unbanned.
[15:32] <k1l_> the staff should really take a look at you since you were ban evading on purpose again
[15:33] <Lanser2> IdleOne: can I just fucking use a proxy.
[15:33] <IdleOne> you rejoined without your cloak to evade the ban.
[15:33] <IdleOne> Now you have no chances left.
[15:33] <Lanser2> is using a proxy to ban-evade allowed?
[15:33] <Lanser2> and changing a nick.
[15:33] <Lanser2> oh wait
[15:33] <Lanser2> sorry
[15:33] <Lanser2> dude
[15:33] <Lanser2> im sorry
[15:33] <IdleOne> no, also please don't swear
[15:33] <Lanser> why is swearing not allowed?
[15:34] <Lanser> everybody knows the word "fuck"
[15:34] <Lanser> nobody under 12 doesn't hang out at #ubuntu.
[15:34] <Lanser> plus, its not that offensive.
[15:34] <Lanser> fuck fuck fuck fuck.
[15:34] <Lanser> see?
[15:34] <Lanser> I don't understand why "fuck" is considered a bad word.
[15:34] <IdleOne> Well as far as I am concerned this discussion is over. I was willing to talk with you, but you were not patient enough and decided to revert back to your childish behaviour.
[15:35] <IdleOne> Please don't come back and please stay out of our channels. Have a nice day.
[15:36] <Lanser> alright IdleOne.
[15:36] <Lanser> your bans are fucking useless anyway.
[15:36] <Lanser> I can just use a proxy, and an another nick.
[15:36] <Lanser> an un-registered nick.
[15:36] <Lanser> like a random nick.
[15:36] <Lanser> you can't stop me.
[15:36] <Lanser> fuck you.
[15:37] <Lanser> I'll enter #ubuntu when I want.
[15:37] <Lanser> and talk shit WHEN I WANT.
[15:37] <Myrtti> if you manage to behave there, then there's no problem
[15:37] <Lanser> i'll be making little kids do rape, IdleOne
[15:37] <IdleOne> staff Lanser using his cloak to try and evade bans aka syko
[15:37] <Lanser> can you stop me
[15:37] <Myrtti> if you act like an idiot, you'll be banned
[15:37] <Myrtti> it's really simple as that
[15:37] <Lanser> ah Myrtti.
[15:37] <Lanser> that sounds good to me.
[15:37] <k1l_> Myrtti: actually not
[15:37] <Myrtti> I will not hold my breath though.
[15:37] <k1l_> a ban evade is not the solution
[15:38] <Lanser> IdleOne: are you aware of the fact that all your bans are like a sack of shit?
[15:38] <Lanser> Myrtti: hold your breath and fucking die.
[15:38]  * Myrtti sighs at her stupid script not working as planned
[15:39] <Pici> Myrtti: btw, you're not in ops-team
[15:40] <IdleOne> yeah, we could use you in there. Also we miss you :)
[15:40] <Myrtti> good for you
[15:40] <IdleOne> :/
[15:43] <Myrtti> seriously though, if he manages to behave on the channel and be a productive member of the community, you won't be none the wiser. If he messes up, he messes up and gets banned.
[15:44] <Myrtti> bans are meant to stop disruption to the channel, not to punish people. If they manage to not disrupt things, then more power to them and us
[15:44] <k1l_> Myrtti: we are all through this several times now. the bantracker explodes of his entries with severeal nicks, several user accounts which still are cloaked.
[15:44] <IdleOne> Myrtti: I agree, but in the middle of trying to get his ban removed he intentionally evaded, this is why I banned him this time.
[15:44] <Myrtti> IdleOne: as I would have as well
[15:46] <Myrtti> k1l_: if you want to have the cloaks removed, collect all the evidence into an email and send it to support@freenode.net - it's far more effective and allows staff members to discuss things with equal amount of information shared with each other than just mentioning things in passing here
[15:46] <Myrtti> mind you, sending that email isn't any guarantee that the cloak will be yanked
[15:46] <Myrtti> but it leaves the staff with a paper trail in that end too.
[15:47] <Myrtti> it's far too complicated issue to be decided upon by some lonely newb freenode staffer like me :-P
[17:35] <bazhang> * [d4rkt1m3s] (40eb6b01@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.235.107.1): nnfwrd2.nearnorthschools.ca/64.235.107.1
[17:35] <bazhang> is that lanser?
[17:36] <bazhang> asking for a cloak so he can ban evade in -ot
[17:36] <bazhang> hi
[17:36] <d4rkt1m3s> you guys have some sort of problem with me?:
[17:36] <bazhang> let me check, just a moment please
[17:39] <d4rkt1m3s> I know exactly what the problem is. It's your IP-based ban.
[17:40] <bazhang> were you asking about debain/suse/centos?
[17:40] <d4rkt1m3s> i was
[17:40] <bazhang> ok, thats you then
[17:41] <bazhang> let me inquire a bit further, just a moment
[17:41] <d4rkt1m3s> honestly, I've been watched like a hawk because my IP is associated with a bunch of idiots.
[17:42] <bazhang> are you in a hurry? I am still checking
[17:42] <d4rkt1m3s> I'm a little annoyed
[17:43] <d4rkt1m3s> LjL: you.
[17:43] <LjL> yes, me
[17:44] <d4rkt1m3s> you've got a serious problem, man.
[17:44] <LjL> oh, i probably do, but this channel is not for discussing my problems
[17:44] <LjL> i'm sure i can find other venues to do that
[17:45] <d4rkt1m3s> it's affecting me greatly. stop watching me so tightly.
[17:45] <LjL> d4rkt1m3s, i'm afraid that's not possible. i unbanned you with a clear provision that i'd need to keep a watch on your address, as it had been used by - whether it was you or not - markedly abusive people
[17:46] <LjL> i additionally warned you a few minutes ago in #ubuntu-offtopic that you should tread very lightly in your current situation
[17:46] <LjL> instead, you called someone a pedo. banning you again was the only sensible thing i could do.
[17:46] <LjL> that ban is not going to be removed at the present time.,
[17:46] <d4rkt1m3s> this guy was advocating tor. I've used the onion. it's not a good place.
[17:47]  * d4rkt1m3s shudders.
[17:47] <LjL> oh, so you're a pedo too? (using your own logic)
[17:47] <d4rkt1m3s> I was merely trying to keep people from seeing things that are VERY uncomfortable.
[17:47] <d4rkt1m3s> I was there because of idiots like that guy.
[17:48] <d4rkt1m3s> and I was paranoid for months afterward.
[17:48] <LjL> well, Tor is a tool that can be used for many purposes, and i'm pretty sure just connecting a Tor client to IRC has extremely little to do with pedophilia or much of anything
[17:49] <d4rkt1m3s> well, I'm sorry, but I've had bad experiences with tor. VERY BAD experiences.
[17:49]  * d4rkt1m3s shudders again.
[17:49] <LjL> in any case, it should be any person's common sense, at least any person who we'd welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic, that you don't just go around accusing people of something like that for no reason. so, from my point of view, you're clearly not prepared to be in the channel.
[17:49] <d4rkt1m3s> I've been around, man. statistics don't lie.
[17:50] <d4rkt1m3s> I can admit that what I said was rash, but I really don't like pedophiles.
[17:50] <LjL> enough
[17:51] <LjL> you won't be here accusing someone to be a pedophile with no evidence just because they've been using Tor (which you have too)
[17:51] <LjL> so, this discussion is over unless you have something important to say *about the ban*
[17:51] <d4rkt1m3s> which i HAD
[17:51] <d4rkt1m3s> I'm justifying my behaviour. which directly has something to do with the ban.
[17:53] <d4rkt1m3s> I feel that I should formally apologize to (zipper?) pretty sure that's what his nick was. but watch him, please. anyone who uses tor is bad news, in my opinion.
[17:53] <LjL> well that particular justification seems too weak for me to entertain it as a valid reason to cancel the ban. if you want, you can come back and discuss this again in a month or so, when perhaps you're more acquainted with freenode's culture.
[17:54] <d4rkt1m3s> tor is bad news.
[17:55] <LjL> got you
[17:55] <d4rkt1m3s> ?
[17:55] <LjL> well, see you at a later point
[17:55] <d4rkt1m3s> jerk.
[18:50] <bazhang> any idea what jboii needs? mouse support?
[19:13] <genii> bazhang: I figure a few scenarios: The cursor is still on the broken screen and it's not being moved off the edge onto the unbroken screen  or: Whatever broke the screen broke the usb port   or: They need to do the FN key combo on their laptop which makes it only be using the external monitor    ...but I don't currently have time to devote to assisting properly in the channel
[19:15] <bazhang> genii, he finally said "my usb mouse doesn't work, after entering with "my monitor is broken"
[19:17] <genii> bazhang: As I understand his original issue, his LCD screen on laptop broke ( perhaps taking usb port with it), and now his usb mouse doesn't seem to either have a cursor or move the cursor on the external monitor he plugged in.
[19:17] <bazhang> genii, his multiple line posting made that a bit hard to decipher