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| MavKen | Are any of you using 13.04 03 13.10 on a production server? If so, have you had any issues? | 03:08 |
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| parallel21 | I updated dev environment | 03:11 |
| parallel21 | It uses php 5.5 which we were unable to use with drupal because of the drop of json_encode | 03:12 |
| parallel21 | Still working on a way to downgrade, so I rebuilt php from source | 03:12 |
| MavKen | ah ok | 03:13 |
| MavKen | is there a way to create a script file to run after a clean ubuntu server install to get everything else i want installed and configured? | 03:16 |
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| parallel21 | There are several ways going about that | 03:20 |
| MavKen | for example, id like to install apache, mysql (using a prefined root pass), php..etc | 03:20 |
| MavKen | just want to put a script together, as much as i repeat the same commands on fresh os installs | 03:21 |
| parallel21 | You could... https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/installation-guide/i386/ch04s06.html#kickstart | 03:22 |
| parallel21 | Or create a puppet manifest to deploy post-install | 03:22 |
| parallel21 | I haven't used kickstart, and I use puppet to bootstrap servers with a lamp or lemp stack etc | 03:23 |
| MavKen | ok thanks, will check those out | 03:24 |
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| ethana3 | I'm trying to direct all traffic to one IP through another... to transparently bypass remote servers without changing nameservice configuration | 06:20 |
| ethana3 | but the instructions I'm coming across online aren't working, so I think that's because they're old, for different distributions, or both | 06:20 |
| ethana3 | basically, the *kind* of thing i'm trying to do is just say, 70.xx.yy.zz = 8.8.8.8, so I can just send traffic through 70.x and get google on the other end, that kind of thing | 06:21 |
| leif_ | morning is this the irc for running severs | 07:23 |
| andol | leif_: Well, might not be the only irc channel for that, but yeah, the topic is definetly server related. | 07:25 |
| leif_ | ok | 07:26 |
| leif_ | is a bit new to ubuntu so | 07:26 |
| hispeed68 | is 12.10 preferred over 12.04? | 07:45 |
| henkjan_ | hispeed68: 12.04 is LTS (Long Term Support) release. that one is preferred | 07:49 |
| henkjan_ | hispeed68: else you could try 13.10 | 07:50 |
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| hispeed68 | 13.10 wouldn't work (video). 12.04 is working. | 07:54 |
| riz0n | hello, I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS server and want to take advantage of new features available in Dovecot 2.2.6-1 ... what would be the bewst way to go about upgrading Dovecot to support the new features? | 07:54 |
| melmoth | riz0n, if you are lucky, somebody already packaged it for 12.04 | 07:56 |
| melmoth | if you are less lucky, you may try to rebuild a package from debian, and cross finger | 07:56 |
| G | riz0n: check if the Dovecot team have a PPA | 07:56 |
| melmoth | if you are out of luck, compile it in a --prefix dark /usr/local corner of your box ? | 07:57 |
| G | based on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dovecot it appears there are no builds of 2.2.x in any PPA or any release atm | 07:59 |
| G | actually, I lie, missed the link to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=dovecot | 08:00 |
| G | but remember, PPAs are use at own risk :) | 08:00 |
| hispeed67 | i thoughts on striping (no parity) 4 flash drives? | 08:02 |
| riz0n | i thought about 2.1 | 08:02 |
| riz0n | i just want the latest stable version that supports RFC-6154 to fix some issues in Outlook 2013 | 08:03 |
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| RVFCore__ | Hi | 10:07 |
| RVFCore__ | Can anybody helps with 12.04.02 and a Samba configuration? | 10:08 |
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| jamespage | adam_g, roaksoax: if either of you have time I have a number of MP's stacked up against charm-helpers for various | 11:24 |
| jamespage | charm features I'm working on: | 11:24 |
| jamespage | https://code.launchpad.net/~charm-helpers/charm-helpers/devel/+activereviews | 11:25 |
| gso | How do I unload a kernel module with dots in it's name ? | 11:43 |
| Patero-n1 | hello I'm on ubuntu server 13.10 and when I change my ip via ifconfig it loses access to dns resolution how to respecifiy or restablish the route | 11:48 |
| Patero-n1 | I checked ifconfig man page but it says nothing about specifying dns info | 11:49 |
| eagles0513875 | hey guys is the mod spamhaus package has it been backported to 12.04 | 11:53 |
| eagles0513875 | and apache 2.2 | 11:53 |
| ihre | Patero-n1: echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf | 11:53 |
| ihre | or w/e DNS you'd like to use | 11:53 |
| Patero-n1 | ihre: what about the dns specified on that file why aren't they valid anymore | 11:54 |
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| ihre | Patero-n1: what do you mean? you can check what your current dns server is with something like nslookup google.com | 11:55 |
| mardraum | ihre: if you read the contents of that file, it tells you about why you should not do that. | 11:56 |
| ihre | mardraum: that is when youre using /etc/network/interfaces, right ? | 11:56 |
| mardraum | when using resolvconf, which is the default in ubuntu. | 11:57 |
| mardraum | Patero-n1: man resolvconf | 11:57 |
| ihre | mardraum: ifconfig doesnt attach to resolvconf | 12:00 |
| mardraum | no. but I think he is missing information about how to permanently change details | 12:00 |
| Patero-n1 | when I change my ip on ifconfig it loses name resolution when I put my ip back still can't access dns names I have to dhcpcd again to fix it | 12:01 |
| mardraum | Patero-n1: do you want to permanently change your IP? | 12:01 |
| mardraum | eg to survive a reboot? | 12:01 |
| Patero-n1 | mardraum: yes | 12:01 |
| Patero-n1 | mardraum: after I find out how to specify dns | 12:02 |
| mardraum | Patero-n1: you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces | 12:02 |
| mardraum | Patero-n1: DNS is specified in that file. | 12:02 |
| ihre | then edit /etc/network/interfaces and set something like dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 4.2.2.2 | 12:02 |
| mardraum | man resolvconf for details | 12:02 |
| Patero-n1 | cool | 12:15 |
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| Patero-n1 | mardraum: it only talks about dns when it refers to auto mode in ipv6 | 12:27 |
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| jamespage | zul, ovs 2.0.0 uploaded... smoked OK for me locally | 13:19 |
| zul | jamespage: sweet dont forget to upload it to the CA oh wait...habbit | 13:20 |
| jamespage | zul, lol | 13:20 |
| * jamespage enjoys a release off | 13:20 | |
| jamespage | zul, doh - uploaded ovs to saucy | 13:23 |
| jamespage | .... | 13:23 |
| zul | lol | 13:24 |
| zul | jamespage: im just waiting for the new libvirt before putting it in trusty | 13:37 |
| jamespage | zul, OK - I think I figured out how to trigger test runs as well | 13:37 |
| jamespage | doing those now | 13:37 |
| zul | sweet | 13:38 |
| jamespage | zul, btw we need to get sessions raised this week for vUDS as well I think | 13:38 |
| zul | jamespage: really? | 13:39 |
| zul | *sigh* | 13:39 |
| jibel | zul, hi, I fixed the dep8 part of cherrypy3, now autopkgtest fails for a good reason. cherryd is installed in the wrong location and python3 packaging looks incomplete. | 13:41 |
| jibel | zul, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/AutoPkgTest/job/trusty-adt-cherrypy3 if you want to have a look | 13:41 |
| zul | jibel: cool ill have a look | 13:41 |
| zul | jamespage: i did the same for saucy what you did ;) | 14:05 |
| jamespage | zul, lol | 14:05 |
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| Patero-n1 | I need help | 14:27 |
| Patero-n1 | I read the man of interfaces at network/ and on the static method it doesn't mention anything about setting a dns server I just founnd how to set the default gateway and stuff | 14:28 |
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| mardraum | Patero-n1: man resolvconf shows you how to do this. | 14:30 |
| Patero-n1 | k | 14:31 |
| mardraum | Patero-n1: I've only mentioned it at least three times now. What exact issue are you having? | 14:32 |
| jrwren | it is a little strange that dns-nameservers isn't mentioned in the interfaces man page. | 14:36 |
| ihre | Patero-n1: http://dpaste.com/1432527/ | 14:38 |
| ndee | is it possible to use hosts.deny with a dyndns hostname? | 14:43 |
| zul | jamespage: we need to figure out what we are gonig to do about samba, merges.ubuntu.com wants to merge 4.0 | 14:47 |
| jrwren | ndee: no, because those hostnames just do a reverse dns based on the incoming IP address to find hostname. | 14:48 |
| Patero-n1 | apparently I have run the updater script after editing the record of the iface.prog | 14:53 |
| Patero-n1 | tedious | 14:53 |
| Patero-n1 | mardraum: my issue is that when I change my ip I lost access to name resolution | 14:54 |
| jrwren | http://askubuntu.com/questions/367296/why-did-upgrade-to-saucy-replace-my-host-keys-on-first-reboot | 14:55 |
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| jrwren | anyone see a reboot after saucy upgrade replace their ssh host keys? | 14:56 |
| jamespage | zul, I think we just follow Debian and try to remove as much delta as possible | 14:58 |
| jamespage | how much MIR is it going to create? | 14:58 |
| zul | jamespage: i havent really looked at it yet but i can do so today | 14:59 |
| jamespage | zul, no rush this week | 15:00 |
| Gianluca_31V2 | salve | 15:10 |
| hispeed67 | i activated proprietary nvidia driver xx.73 and now X wont start. i got into text mode, but how do i switch out of the nvidia proprietary driver? | 15:21 |
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| hispeed67 | last try before re-installing.. i installed the proprietary nvidia driver and now cant get into X. how do i return to other framebuffer. | 15:34 |
| BrianH | hispeed67: kill lightdm, purge the driver, create a new /etc/X11/xorg.conf, file and restart lightdm | 15:38 |
| BrianH | hispeed67: Out of curiosity, which driver are you using and which card? I just installed the nvidia drivers on my server yesterday for my GT240. | 15:40 |
| hispeed67 | brianh: awesome, just booting from cd to do reinstall.. already killed lightdm and renamed bunch of lightdm files to lightdm.old. 50/50 on the reinstall. it is *currently* installed on a slow 40g drive, i have a 200G drive i was going to install to.. | 15:52 |
| BrianH | hispeed67: If you do a fresh install on the 200GB drive, it should set it up with the nouveau drivers. | 15:53 |
| hispeed67 | i think that is what ima gonna do.. it's an old ms-8917 video card. | 15:54 |
| hispeed67 | fx-5200 | 15:54 |
| BrianH | Yeah, the nouveau drivers should be plenty sufficient for that card. Why did you install the proprietary drivers? | 15:55 |
| hispeed67 | see if any performance improvement.. | 15:55 |
| BrianH | Ah, gotcha. I would recommend imaging your HDD once you have the base system setup, that way you have a fall back in case you mess it up again. :P | 15:56 |
| genii | It begs the question of why you are even using X on a server install ;) | 15:57 |
| BrianH | I use X myself because I run a bunch of KVM machines. | 15:57 |
| hispeed67 | cause im more familiar with xtools.. prefer to *boot* into text mode and use startx if i need X. | 15:57 |
| hitsujiTMO | does virt-manager not work for remote kvm management? | 15:59 |
| BrianH | hitsujiTMO: Yep, but it's my home server so I don't care much to run it remotely. | 16:01 |
| Patero-ng | I got a message saying unable to load system information due to load higher then 1.0 what is this means? | 16:02 |
| hispeed67 | means you system load is high | 16:03 |
| Patero-ng | the cpu load? | 16:03 |
| hitsujiTMO | Patero-ng: openssh-server wont run the motd scripts when your load is higher than 1.0% | 16:03 |
| Patero-ng | why is 1% cpu load dangerous? | 16:04 |
| Patero-ng | do I need a faster cpu | 16:04 |
| hitsujiTMO | Patero-ng: no | 16:04 |
| Pici | 1.0 load is not 1% cpu. | 16:05 |
| Patero-ng | ohh | 16:06 |
| BrianH | Yeah, 1.0 means your CPU is doing the most it possibly can. You can have a higher load number, which means things start getting queued. | 16:07 |
| hispeed67 | i was going to stripe 4 * 16g flash drives... thoughts?? | 16:07 |
| Patero-ng | BrianH: k | 16:08 |
| BrianH | hispeed67: lol, really? | 16:08 |
| BrianH | hispeed67: Just to learn how raid works? | 16:09 |
| hispeed67 | just to fuk with it.. yea...think it would suck??? | 16:09 |
| baggar11 | anyone use deluge-web in here? wondering if you've noticed that title bar preferences don't save on exit. | 16:09 |
| hispeed67 | no, i know how raid works, just have an excess of flash drives | 16:09 |
| BrianH | It might destroy the drives after a while, depending on how much you use them. | 16:09 |
| hispeed67 | have 7*16G, 3*32G and 2*64G... | 16:10 |
| hitsujiTMO | Patero-ng: Pici: my apologies. yes, load 1.0 is a cpu is on full. but doesn't necessarily mean you need to upgrade. | 16:10 |
| hispeed67 | usually on startup... | 16:10 |
| Pici | hitsujiTMO: technically its just 1 core of the CPU | 16:10 |
| hispeed67 | give time to start before loggingg and and that 1.0 will prolly go away | 16:10 |
| BrianH | hispeed67: On USB3? | 16:11 |
| hispeed67 | one of the 32's is usb3, rest are usb2, but ports are only usb2 anyway | 16:11 |
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| BrianH | hispeed67: on-board ports or through a hub? I never really thought about using flash drives for raids, but now I'm thinking it might be a cool way to show students, lol. | 16:12 |
| hispeed67 | hub | 16:12 |
| hispeed67 | BrianH: it's cheap... | 16:12 |
| Patero-ng | I have a problem my wireless card is not detected anymore it's a netgear wag511 pcmcia | 16:13 |
| BrianH | hispeed67: Looks like someone already did this: http://bigbruin.com/reviews05/thumbraid_1 | 16:13 |
| hispeed67 | doh. | 16:13 |
| hispeed67 | reading | 16:14 |
| Patero-ng | oh it just detected it I think the connectors were dirty | 16:15 |
| zul | jamespage: ok i just merged/synced a bunch of openstack dependencies | 16:15 |
| Patero-ng | it's a 10 year old pcmcia | 16:15 |
| BrianH | hispeed67: I like the concept though. 4 x 4GB drives + a hub and you got a simple setup for a RAID experiment under $25. | 16:16 |
| hispeed67 | im using 4x16 for my home dir | 16:17 |
| ogra_ | USB2 maxes out at 25M/s per hub though | 16:17 |
| BrianH | hispeed67: wow, his Raid 0 benchmarks were pretty impressive, haha. | 16:17 |
| BrianH | for 4 drives ^^ | 16:18 |
| hispeed67 | wonder why 2 drive was so much better than the rest.. | 16:18 |
| hispeed67 | wrong chart | 16:18 |
| hispeed67 | 4 drive doesn't look *that* bad... | 16:19 |
| hispeed67 | considering i generally get 8-10mb/sec on single drive. | 16:19 |
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| hispeed67 | that raid looks like fun. have sdb1 for /home, it's a 40G drive. ima raid the 4 16G's and use for backup of /home :) | 16:25 |
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| hispeed67 | when i use apt-get install is there any way to specify where apt-get d/l's the files to? | 16:31 |
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| BrianH | Anyone know if there's a fix yet for system-config-kickstart on 13.10? | 16:44 |
| BrianH | Or any alternatives? | 16:45 |
| BrianH | The only alternative I have is to use an older release in a VM to generate the cfg files and run a lamp stack. | 16:50 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: what problem are you trying to solve? (I ask because normally people are quite content to let apt-get do whatever it does and magically have working packages ten seconds later...) | 16:53 |
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| adam_g | zul, did heat + ceilometer ever get acked for MRE? | 17:02 |
| zul | adam_g: yep | 17:03 |
| raub | If I want to allow rsylog rhelp traffic, how do I specify the protocol in iptables? I know it is not upd, but what is it? | 17:14 |
| hispeed67 | sarnold: not a problem per-se, but i wind up installing multiple time before i get everything just right and would like to point apt-get to the pkgs i already d/l'ed instead of keep d/l'ing 100's of megs | 17:14 |
| hispeed67 | so far, 12.04 server install 4 times, on the 5th time.. only found my wlan0 on install #2... :( | 17:15 |
| hispeed67 | hoping it finds it on the 5th time... | 17:15 |
| hispeed67 | during install, it finds eth0 and wlan0 but doesn't locate/find my ssid/router | 17:16 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: apt keeps downloaded .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ -- which is handy to know if you ever need to manually rollback a bad package update, you can often find a handful of previous versions in that directory | 17:16 |
| hispeed67 | that works, long as it keeps the .deb file, i can cp the .deb file to a flash drive so i dont have to redownload.. :) | 17:17 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: if you're re-installing machines all the time, you may wish to use something like apt-cacher-ng or squid-deb-proxy | 17:17 |
| hispeed67 | just trying to get 1 machine *as i like it*.. :) | 17:19 |
| hispeed67 | from home, 40Mbit connection.. | 17:19 |
| sarnold | ah hehe :) | 17:19 |
| med_ | jamespage, et al: Do you do any testing (over and above the built-in testing during packaging) for openvswitch source package (prior to releasing/pushing OVS)? | 17:19 |
| zul | jamespage/adam_g: new pbr uploaded for trusty | 17:21 |
| jamespage | med_, well it gets tested as part of the neutron topology testing we do | 17:23 |
| jamespage | med_, and the package has dep-8 tests that exercise the dkms module and the userspace daemons for switch | 17:23 |
| med_ | before it gets pushed | 17:23 |
| med_ | nod, I saw the userspace tests | 17:24 |
| hispeed67 | the 1 time the wlan0 worked, i did the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (or whatever) and d/l'ed 500M's, gonna have to do it again.. | 17:24 |
| jamespage | med_, nothing pre-upload other than the unit testing that run as part of package build | 17:24 |
| med_ | thanks jamespage | 17:25 |
| hispeed67 | what do you guys think is faster, cd-rom install or flash drive install? | 17:26 |
| justizin | hispeed67: flash drive install should be faster not only on raw io, but it will save you the walk to a museum | 17:27 |
| sarnold | depends heavily on the flash drive, I think; usb1.1 will probably be slower than cd-rom but a usb 2.0 stick can probably out-pace a CD | 17:28 |
| justizin | sarnold: if it were raw sequential, which it's not, i think a usb stick will always beat a CD | 17:28 |
| justizin | it basically installs a bunch of .deb files in a certain order based on dependencies and all sorts of other stuff, it's almost guaranteed to be mostly random seeks followed by brief sequential reads, and that's about as worst-case as you can get for a medium that spins | 17:29 |
| justizin | anyway that's my $0.02, i haven't actually used anything but a net installer in like ten years. ;d | 17:29 |
| sarnold | justizin: heh, good point, I don't know if any effort has been made to put the debs into an "install order" on the disc images. | 17:30 |
| justizin | it wouldn't be much worth it, if you have to install more than once or twice per distro release, it makes far more sense to mirror locally (or at least throw up a squid cache) | 17:31 |
| justizin | you can net install against a squid cache in like 5 min | 17:31 |
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| hispeed67 | is there a net installer for ubuntu 12.04 lts? | 17:32 |
| hispeed67 | cause, im definitely down with a net installer... | 17:32 |
| justizin | yeah there should always be | 17:32 |
| justizin | i usually put it on a usb stick, it's just a far smaller image than the full installer | 17:33 |
| justizin | (it's also handy to netboot) | 17:33 |
| sarnold | this looks like a decent guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/install-tftp.html | 17:33 |
| justizin | you can also just boot a usb stick to like a 16MB image that installs over the web | 17:33 |
| sarnold | yeah, I quite like those "mini install images" that just get you to a point where you can run apt-get install for whatever else you need. :) hehe | 17:34 |
| Patero-ng | hey i have a question how much does it take to mkfs.ntfs or format a 4gb pendrive is taking like 5min and is just on 10% is this normal hello | 17:34 |
| hispeed67 | ewe, prefer justizin's choice.. i have a 12.04 on a 16G usb stick.. yea, a mini-install image would be cool, not wanting to setup a tftp/bootp | 17:34 |
| * justizin is searching for an image | 17:34 | |
| justizin | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD <- ignore everything that says 'CD' in this wiki page. ;) | 17:35 |
| justizin | and i think there's an app that creates a usb for you.. there are so many ways to create an installer it's become labyrinthine | 17:36 |
| justizin | which i almost definitely spelled wrong | 17:36 |
| sarnold | I'd stay away from the gtk-image-creator or whatever it was, it seems beyond broken. the only advantage it had over 'dd' (gui aside) is that it could make a storage space on the stick for persistent storage. kinda neat, but the tool as a whole seems pretty broken for those who try it :( | 17:37 |
| hispeed67 | i use the netboot thingy. | 17:37 |
| hispeed67 | using windoze machine to make the iso for the linux boxen | 17:38 |
| hispeed67 | unetbootin | 17:38 |
| hispeed67 | im prolly not doing this the best way. system is installed, but not seeing my wlan0 adapter.. keep re-installing waiting for it to see it. 5th install, saw it on the 2nd install, but i screwed up my X driver, now im on 5th install trying to get wlan0 to work. | 17:40 |
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| med_ | jamespage, another question: precise-proposed has OVS 1.4.6 (and it's been there for a while). Is there a bug somewhere that needs verified to get that into precise-updates? | 17:53 |
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| hispeed67 | these installs are kicking my ass... none are finding my wlan0 card | 18:03 |
| hispeed67 | it's a dlink | 18:03 |
| hispeed67 | 1 install last night did, so i keep trying.. :( | 18:03 |
| justizin | install over wired, then setup wlan? | 18:04 |
| hispeed67 | im installing from cd now, ill try to fix wlan after install finishes... :( bumming | 18:04 |
| hispeed67 | 48% | 18:04 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: most of those kinds of issues are far easier to solve once the system is up and running and you've got access to all the archive and its utilities | 18:06 |
| hispeed67 | been a *long* time since i used linux, lots has changed.. | 18:08 |
| hispeed67 | used to be able to use ifconfig and if-up, not even sure what tools are available nowadays.. <g> | 18:09 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: ifconfig and ifup are still there; 'ip' provides more features, but the debian-based config files don't make it easy to get to them all.. | 18:12 |
| hispeed67 | quit doing heavy duty unix stuff in 99 | 18:13 |
| hispeed67 | played with it a lot, but nothing that i *had* to make work.. | 18:14 |
| hispeed67 | etc/init.d has changed too.. | 18:14 |
| hispeed67 | runlevels aren't the same either. | 18:14 |
| hispeed67 | lotta relearning to do.. i should prolly be in a general-chat room.. | 18:15 |
| hispeed67 | sarnold: whats ip? iptables??? | 18:16 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: 'ip' is the 'new' interface to manage everything that used to be done by route and ifconfig -- it's got more features (ability to set multiple IP addresses per device without needing silly "alias" devices) | 18:18 |
| hispeed67 | ok, system installed, rebooted. only have lo interface... | 18:20 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: what does lspci -k show for your NIC and your wlan card? | 18:23 |
| hispeed67 | atheros.. | 18:25 |
| hispeed67 | sis for eth0, atheros for wlan | 18:25 |
| hispeed67 | sis900 and ath5k | 18:26 |
| hispeed67 | i connected the sis900 (i.e. plugged in the net cable) | 18:27 |
| hispeed67 | still only seeing lo though | 18:27 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: and does 'ip link show' and 'ifconfig -a' show anything? how about 'iwconfig -a'? | 18:27 |
| hispeed67 | ip link show lists lo, eth0 and wlan0 | 18:28 |
| hispeed67 | so does ifconfig -a (but with no ip addy info) | 18:29 |
| hispeed67 | iwconfig also shows all 3 if's | 18:29 |
| hispeed67 | so, the kernel sees the if's then.. | 18:29 |
| hispeed67 | they just aren't configured??? | 18:30 |
| hispeed67 | ifup wlan0 and ifup eth0 give error unknown interface wlan0=wlan0 | 18:34 |
| hispeed67 | sarnold: you still here? | 18:35 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: does your /etc/network/interfaces look sane? | 18:35 |
| hispeed67 | only shows lo | 18:36 |
| hispeed67 | no eth0 or wlan0 in it. | 18:36 |
| hispeed67 | should i add eth0 and wlan0 to it? | 18:41 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: depends; if you're building a server, you'll probably want to assign static IPs, and /etc/network/interfaces is the place to do it. if you're doing a desktop, it'll be managed by networkmanager, and then your /etc/network/interfaces will have very little in it.. | 18:42 |
| hispeed67 | i can go either way with it. it's a home/development server | 18:44 |
| hispeed67 | going to be a webserver/forum server | 18:45 |
| sarnold | static is nice but you've got to poke out a hole for the IP range from your router's DHCP range | 18:47 |
| hispeed67 | i only have like 12 ip's being handed out (printers, phones, tablets, laptops and desktops) so i could just use an upper ip (i.e. 24.211.120.232) which is never dhcp'ed | 18:49 |
| sarnold | funny thing abou addresses which are "never" handed out ... | 18:50 |
| sarnold | they eventually do get handed out :) hehe | 18:50 |
| sarnold | it's worth picking a part of your range to block out for static; either everything about 127 or above 200 or whatever is easy for you to remeber. | 18:50 |
| hispeed67 | router only dhcp 0-100, so i could use 101+ | 18:51 |
| hispeed67 | just set to dhcp 125 ip's, so 128+ should be fine for me. | 18:52 |
| hispeed67 | router also has static ip pool mapped to mac addy | 18:54 |
| sarnold | oh nice, you're on the ball then :) hehe | 18:57 |
| hispeed67 | i can figure out the ip specific stuff later, if i could just get wlan0 (or, even eth0 now) working.. :) | 18:57 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: try using iwconfig to associate with an essid.. | 18:58 |
| hispeed67 | rebooting another linux i have on a flash drive and see if it findsd it | 18:58 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: off for a bit, good luck, have fun :) | 18:58 |
| hispeed67 | doh.. damn. | 18:59 |
| jamespage | med_, yep - there is | 19:05 |
| jamespage | its on my todo list | 19:05 |
| jamespage | med_, but if you could deploy and test with it +1000 | 19:05 |
| hallyn | CHECK IT OUT! 4-line patch to xserver-xorg-video-qxl enables using spice xserver standalone like a vncserver - i.e. for contaienrs | 19:07 |
| hallyn | stgraber: ^ | 19:07 |
| med_ | jamespage, cool. | 19:07 |
| stgraber | hallyn: nice! | 19:08 |
| hallyn | stgraber: the two new debps are in main, so there's no reason we can't do this for trusty | 19:08 |
| hallyn | now, who babysits those packages these days :) | 19:08 |
| vila | hi guys, what can cause 'lxc_container: command get_cgroup failed to receive response' ? | 19:27 |
| vila | the context is qa-radeon-7750 in the ci lab using otto, has been re-installed from scratch, I probably missed some bit of the config | 19:28 |
| vila | did I mention trusty ? ;) | 19:29 |
| vila | I have another host, also running trusty that is not experiencing the issue and ca be used as a reference but I don't know *where* to look | 19:29 |
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| vila | stgraber: ^ ? | 19:32 |
| stgraber | vila: can you give me the IP? | 19:33 |
| vila | stgraber: 10.97.2.156 | 19:34 |
| vila | stgraber: the container is named trusty-otto | 19:35 |
| stgraber | lxc-start: Error setting memory.memsw.limit_in_bytes to 4G for trusty-otto | 19:36 |
| vila | stgraber: hold on, that the last bit I try | 19:37 |
| vila | tried | 19:37 |
| vila | stgraber: try again | 19:38 |
| stgraber | lxc-start: Error setting memory.memsw.limit_in_bytes to 2560M for trusty-otto | 19:38 |
| vila | stgraber: yeah, not sure if otto doesn't do some tricks before calling lxc-start | 19:38 |
| stgraber | 3530 open("/sys/fs/cgroup/memory/lxc/trusty-otto/memory.memsw.limit_in_bytes", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC|O_CLOEXEC, 0666) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) | 19:39 |
| vila | stgraber: sudo su - jenkins and then sudo bin/otto -d start trusty-otto | 19:39 |
| === Sieb is now known as _Sieb | ||
| vila | stgraber: ^ is what I use | 19:40 |
| stgraber | vila: is the memory limit something new in your setup? | 19:40 |
| vila | stgraber: it was 4G before the re-install, I just reverted it. So not really new | 19:41 |
| stgraber | ok, the failure is because LXC is getting permission denied when trying to write the new memory limit, not sure why that's happening though | 19:42 |
| vila | stgraber: here is the doc I'm following http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~otto-dev/otto/trunk/view/head:/doc/README | 19:43 |
| vila | stgraber: the only bit I didn't do is the CONFIG_MEMCG_SWAP_ENABLED=Y | 19:44 |
| vila | stgraber: nor the apport one but we shouldn't care for now | 19:44 |
| stgraber | vila: the swap limit seems to be the problem | 19:49 |
| vila | stgraber: memsw.limit_in_bytes ? | 19:50 |
| stgraber | yep | 19:50 |
| stgraber | vila: machine will reboot twice | 19:52 |
| vila | stgraber: what did you do ? (I'm trying to document this re-install) | 19:52 |
| stgraber | vila: adding the missing swapaccount kernel parameter | 19:53 |
| stgraber | it's already in your doc | 19:53 |
| vila | stgraber: excuse my ignorance but I couldn't decipher that part, what should be changed and where ? | 19:53 |
| stgraber | vila: right, that did it, everything works fine now | 19:54 |
| stgraber | root@qa-radeon-7750:~# grep swapac /etc/default/grub | 19:54 |
| stgraber | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet swapaccount=1" | 19:54 |
| stgraber | sudo update-grub | 19:54 |
| stgraber | sudo reboot | 19:54 |
| vila | ack | 19:54 |
| === _Sieb is now known as Sieb | ||
| vila | stgraber: so swapaccount is really only needed if/when lxc want enforce memory limits (did I get that right ? Never had to do that elsewhere) | 20:16 |
| vila | *to enforce | 20:16 |
| stgraber | vila: correct, you need that option if you want to use the swap memory restrictions | 20:16 |
| vila | stgraber: ok, makes sense, will need to discuss if we really want to do that given that the host is dedicated to otto... | 20:17 |
| vila | stgraber: anyway, thanks again, for the fish and the fishing ;) | 20:17 |
| === vila is now known as lt-columbo | ||
| lt-columbo | stgraber: one more question, sir ? Why isn't this parameter set to 1 by default ? | 20:32 |
| === lt-columbo is now known as vila | ||
| stgraber | lt-columbo: probably because of some memory or performance impact, you'd have to ask a kernel developer | 20:32 |
| hallyn | stgraber: d'oh. I just realized I left /var/cache/lxc as is. | 20:32 |
| hallyn | <deep sigh> | 20:32 |
| hallyn | stgraber: oh, you've not yet accepted that merge request? | 20:32 |
| stgraber | hallyn: no, I just commented in it | 20:33 |
| vila | stgraber: ok, not something you care more than that yourself ? | 20:33 |
| stgraber | vila: nope, most of my machines don't have swap ;) | 20:33 |
| hallyn | stgraber: oh lemme go check. then i can fix this as well. | 20:33 |
| vila | stgraber: right, can't think why we want swap for a container... | 20:33 |
| vila | stgraber: anyway, I won't bother you more with that ;) | 20:34 |
| hallyn | stgraber: proposal updated | 20:45 |
| hallyn | happy i didn't just push to the archive | 20:45 |
| hallyn | "I had a feeling" it would pay off | 20:45 |
| hallyn | hm, maybe i should run my nameserver to redirect plain decimal numbers to pad.lv/$n | 20:46 |
| === Sieb is now known as _Sieb | ||
| Patero-ng | I just found out that formatting a pendrive with fat32 is a lot faster then formatting it with ntfs | 21:10 |
| sarnold | Patero-ng: heh, yeah, FAT just writes a quick table at the front of the filesystem and ignores all the data blocks. very quick. :) | 21:21 |
| Patero-ng | sarnold: why can't ntfs do the same | 21:25 |
| sarnold | Patero-ng: it has to do with the on-disk layout of filesystem datastructures; FAT is extremely simple, NTFS is not. :) | 21:27 |
| Patero-ng | sarnold: u rock | 21:29 |
| sarnold | \m/ | 21:29 |
| === Gurkenmaster is now known as zz_Gurkenmaster | ||
| gaughen | query roaksoax | 22:03 |
| gyre007 | guys, is it wrong thinking that Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't implement ns ant net_cls subystems ? or is just lssubsys utility NOT returning them ? | 22:20 |
| hispeed76 | ive installed pangolin precise (12.04.3) and my sis eth0 is working, but the wireless is not.. | 22:21 |
| hispeed76 | also, X doesnt work, crashes to cli | 22:21 |
| hispeed76 | argh, i been trying to get this working since last night. | 22:23 |
| hispeed76 | i dont even know what to do next..... please, somebody | 22:23 |
| sarnold | hispeed76: do you get any error messages in dmesg that might indicate the problem with the wireless? do you get any error messages in /var/log/Xorg* that might indicate the error with the graphics? | 22:25 |
| hispeed67 | i finally have 12.04.3 server reinstalled. still no wlan0, but eth0 is working. no X, crashes out to cli... using neauveau (sp?) have fx5200 card. | 22:26 |
| hispeed67 | anybody, please help.. im burning out on this. | 22:26 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: do you get any error messages in dmesg that might indicate the problem with the wireless? do you get any error messages in /var/log/Xorg* that might indicate the error with the graphics? | 22:26 |
| hispeed67 | dmesg shows hundreds of cache errors on nouveau | 22:27 |
| hispeed67 | shows ath5k registered as phy0 | 22:30 |
| hispeed67 | ill write off X, work on that later.. | 22:30 |
| hispeed67 | but, this wireless is kinda important | 22:30 |
| hispeed67 | sarnold that is pretty much all i see about ath | 22:32 |
| hispeed67 | a registered and a chip found line.. | 22:32 |
| hispeed67 | 5 re-install, installing doesn't fix it... | 22:34 |
| hispeed67 | 5th | 22:34 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: so, the module is loaded, iwconfig sees it, ifconfig sees it, what happens when you try to associate it with an essid? | 22:34 |
| hispeed67 | iwconfig sees it, ifconfig does *not* | 22:35 |
| hispeed67 | ifconfig doesn't show it, ifconfig wlan0 does. i take that back | 22:37 |
| hispeed67 | so does ifconfig -a | 22:39 |
| hispeed67 | i giving up.. | 22:39 |
| hispeed67 | not worth it.. too hard. | 22:39 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: what happened when you tried to associate the wlan device with a wireless network using iwconfig? | 22:40 |
| hispeed67 | i dont know how to do that.. | 22:40 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: iwconfig wlan0 essid network-name-here | 22:41 |
| hispeed67 | i did that.. | 22:41 |
| hispeed67 | then when i did, then did iwconfig it shows the essid in the info | 22:42 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: .. and does it show an Access Point MAC? | 22:42 |
| hispeed67 | rebooted into windows, shit just works...this sucks (not linux, my inability to get it to work) | 22:43 |
| hispeed67 | rebooting again | 22:43 |
| hispeed67 | now, when i type iwconfig wlan0 essid linda <enter> | 22:48 |
| hispeed67 | i get error, operation not permitted | 22:48 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: are you running that command as root or via sudo? | 22:48 |
| sarnold | changing network configuration requires administrative privileges | 22:48 |
| sarnold | (which is why desktop people use network-manager -- it runs with privileges and provides a handy drop-down box for people..) | 22:48 |
| hispeed67 | doh, see, im just burning out, hadnt sudoed yet.. | 22:49 |
| hispeed67 | ok, shows essid linda, access-point not associated | 22:50 |
| hispeed67 | now what? | 22:52 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: do you need to enable WEP or WPA2? | 22:53 |
| hispeed67 | wpa2 | 22:53 |
| hispeed67 | psk | 22:53 |
| sarnold | (I can't recall if these would prevent association with an AP or not..) | 22:53 |
| hispeed67 | guess it is easier to just re-install until it works | 22:53 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: do you have the wpasupplicant package installed? that may be necessary.. | 22:54 |
| sarnold | oof, not my first choice. the installer is such a stripped-down environment it's hard to do anything, and it takes for bloody ever compared to just changing settings... | 22:54 |
| hispeed67 | it is installed | 22:54 |
| hispeed67 | wpasupplicant that is | 22:55 |
| hispeed67 | i can turn off wpa/psk on the router and make the router wide open.. | 22:56 |
| hispeed67 | but, that will break the other 12 devices that are using passwords | 22:56 |
| sarnold | hispeed67: I've not set that up manually; check the wpa_supplicant manpage for more details about it. | 22:56 |
| sarnold | heh, that's not fun :/ | 22:56 |
| hispeed67 | prolly faster than getting this to work | 22:57 |
| hispeed67 | wanna hear some crazy ass shit.. did "ifconfig wlan0 192.168.0.112 192.168.0.1"<enter> and now its working | 22:59 |
| hispeed67 | wtf | 22:59 |
| hispeed67 | well, can ping router after that.. dns isn't working.. | 22:59 |
| hispeed67 | prolly dhclient | 23:00 |
| hispeed67 | or something | 23:00 |
| sarnold | dns will require setting up /etc/resolv.conf correctly | 23:00 |
| hispeed67 | it would work if i got the ip from the router, instead of just picking an ip | 23:01 |
| hispeed67 | never asked password for the wireless network anywhere.. | 23:01 |
| hispeed67 | idk if it's working.. | 23:01 |
| hispeed67 | can ping router and get response, but when i ping the ip address for www.google.com i get destination host unreachable | 23:03 |
| hispeed67 | im burned out.. | 23:03 |
| sarnold | you can try pinging other IPs on the network; you don't need DNS for that, and it'll show if the routing is configured correctly | 23:03 |
| sarnold | troubleshooting when burned out is definitely no fun | 23:03 |
| hispeed67 | i turned it off.. i *really* wanted to use 12.04.3 lts, but not anymore.. | 23:03 |
| hispeed67 | ima try openbsd or something...old hardware, shouldn't have the problems it did | 23:04 |
| sarnold | does openbsd still do the sh-based installer? | 23:04 |
| sarnold | I always kinda liked that thing, horrible though it was.. :) | 23:04 |
| hispeed67 | i think so.. im hoping to pull down all source and compile.. i think it still uses tarballs.. | 23:05 |
| hispeed67 | i might try slackware | 23:05 |
| sarnold | slackware was how I learned how to do linux; _zero_ help from the thing. If you wanted something configured, you had to configure it by hand. it was great then, but got a bit tiring. :) hehe | 23:06 |
| hispeed67 | i started with slack too.. | 23:06 |
| hispeed67 | kernel .99 for longest time | 23:07 |
| hispeed67 | burning slack 14.0 now | 23:07 |
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