=== jemurray_ is now known as jemurray === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away === melmoth_ is now known as melmoth [03:08] Are any of you using 13.04 03 13.10 on a production server? If so, have you had any issues? [03:11] I updated dev environment [03:12] It uses php 5.5 which we were unable to use with drupal because of the drop of json_encode [03:12] Still working on a way to downgrade, so I rebuilt php from source [03:13] ah ok [03:16] is there a way to create a script file to run after a clean ubuntu server install to get everything else i want installed and configured? === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying [03:20] There are several ways going about that [03:20] for example, id like to install apache, mysql (using a prefined root pass), php..etc [03:21] just want to put a script together, as much as i repeat the same commands on fresh os installs [03:22] You could... https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/installation-guide/i386/ch04s06.html#kickstart [03:22] Or create a puppet manifest to deploy post-install [03:23] I haven't used kickstart, and I use puppet to bootstrap servers with a lamp or lemp stack etc [03:24] ok thanks, will check those out === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away [06:20] I'm trying to direct all traffic to one IP through another... to transparently bypass remote servers without changing nameservice configuration [06:20] but the instructions I'm coming across online aren't working, so I think that's because they're old, for different distributions, or both [06:21] basically, the *kind* of thing i'm trying to do is just say, 70.xx.yy.zz = 8.8.8.8, so I can just send traffic through 70.x and get google on the other end, that kind of thing [07:23] morning is this the irc for running severs [07:25] leif_: Well, might not be the only irc channel for that, but yeah, the topic is definetly server related. [07:26] ok [07:26] is a bit new to ubuntu so [07:45] is 12.10 preferred over 12.04? [07:49] hispeed68: 12.04 is LTS (Long Term Support) release. that one is preferred [07:50] hispeed68: else you could try 13.10 === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying [07:54] 13.10 wouldn't work (video). 12.04 is working. [07:54] hello, I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS server and want to take advantage of new features available in Dovecot 2.2.6-1 ... what would be the bewst way to go about upgrading Dovecot to support the new features? [07:56] riz0n, if you are lucky, somebody already packaged it for 12.04 [07:56] if you are less lucky, you may try to rebuild a package from debian, and cross finger [07:56] riz0n: check if the Dovecot team have a PPA [07:57] if you are out of luck, compile it in a --prefix dark /usr/local corner of your box ? [07:59] based on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dovecot it appears there are no builds of 2.2.x in any PPA or any release atm [08:00] actually, I lie, missed the link to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=dovecot [08:00] but remember, PPAs are use at own risk :) [08:02] i thoughts on striping (no parity) 4 flash drives? [08:02] i thought about 2.1 [08:03] i just want the latest stable version that supports RFC-6154 to fix some issues in Outlook 2013 === diplo_ is now known as diplo [10:07] Hi [10:08] Can anybody helps with 12.04.02 and a Samba configuration? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:24] adam_g, roaksoax: if either of you have time I have a number of MP's stacked up against charm-helpers for various [11:24] charm features I'm working on: [11:25] https://code.launchpad.net/~charm-helpers/charm-helpers/devel/+activereviews [11:43] How do I unload a kernel module with dots in it's name ? [11:48] hello I'm on ubuntu server 13.10 and when I change my ip via ifconfig it loses access to dns resolution how to respecifiy or restablish the route [11:49] I checked ifconfig man page but it says nothing about specifying dns info [11:53] hey guys is the mod spamhaus package has it been backported to 12.04 [11:53] and apache 2.2 [11:53] Patero-n1: echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf [11:53] or w/e DNS you'd like to use [11:54] ihre: what about the dns specified on that file why aren't they valid anymore === RoyK^ is now known as RoyK [11:55] Patero-n1: what do you mean? you can check what your current dns server is with something like nslookup google.com [11:56] ihre: if you read the contents of that file, it tells you about why you should not do that. [11:56] mardraum: that is when youre using /etc/network/interfaces, right ? [11:57] when using resolvconf, which is the default in ubuntu. [11:57] Patero-n1: man resolvconf [12:00] mardraum: ifconfig doesnt attach to resolvconf [12:00] no. but I think he is missing information about how to permanently change details [12:01] when I change my ip on ifconfig it loses name resolution when I put my ip back still can't access dns names I have to dhcpcd again to fix it [12:01] Patero-n1: do you want to permanently change your IP? [12:01] eg to survive a reboot? [12:01] mardraum: yes [12:02] mardraum: after I find out how to specify dns [12:02] Patero-n1: you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces [12:02] Patero-n1: DNS is specified in that file. [12:02] then edit /etc/network/interfaces and set something like dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 4.2.2.2 [12:02] man resolvconf for details [12:15] cool === mrmist is now known as mist === _Sieb is now known as Sieb [12:27] mardraum: it only talks about dns when it refers to auto mode in ipv6 === zz_Gurkenmaster is now known as Gurkenmaster [13:19] zul, ovs 2.0.0 uploaded... smoked OK for me locally [13:20] jamespage: sweet dont forget to upload it to the CA oh wait...habbit [13:20] zul, lol [13:20] * jamespage enjoys a release off [13:23] zul, doh - uploaded ovs to saucy [13:23] .... [13:24] lol [13:37] jamespage: im just waiting for the new libvirt before putting it in trusty [13:37] zul, OK - I think I figured out how to trigger test runs as well [13:37] doing those now [13:38] sweet [13:38] zul, btw we need to get sessions raised this week for vUDS as well I think [13:39] jamespage: really? [13:39] *sigh* [13:41] zul, hi, I fixed the dep8 part of cherrypy3, now autopkgtest fails for a good reason. cherryd is installed in the wrong location and python3 packaging looks incomplete. [13:41] zul, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/AutoPkgTest/job/trusty-adt-cherrypy3 if you want to have a look [13:41] jibel: cool ill have a look [14:05] jamespage: i did the same for saucy what you did ;) [14:05] zul, lol === cmagina_ is now known as cmagina === Sieb is now known as _Sieb [14:27] I need help [14:28] I read the man of interfaces at network/ and on the static method it doesn't mention anything about setting a dns server I just founnd how to set the default gateway and stuff === gfrog_ is now known as gfrog [14:30] Patero-n1: man resolvconf shows you how to do this. [14:31] k [14:32] Patero-n1: I've only mentioned it at least three times now. What exact issue are you having? [14:36] it is a little strange that dns-nameservers isn't mentioned in the interfaces man page. [14:38] Patero-n1: http://dpaste.com/1432527/ [14:43] is it possible to use hosts.deny with a dyndns hostname? [14:47] jamespage: we need to figure out what we are gonig to do about samba, merges.ubuntu.com wants to merge 4.0 [14:48] ndee: no, because those hostnames just do a reverse dns based on the incoming IP address to find hostname. [14:53] apparently I have run the updater script after editing the record of the iface.prog [14:53] tedious [14:54] mardraum: my issue is that when I change my ip I lost access to name resolution [14:55] http://askubuntu.com/questions/367296/why-did-upgrade-to-saucy-replace-my-host-keys-on-first-reboot === railsraider_ is now known as railsraider [14:56] anyone see a reboot after saucy upgrade replace their ssh host keys? [14:58] zul, I think we just follow Debian and try to remove as much delta as possible [14:58] how much MIR is it going to create? [14:59] jamespage: i havent really looked at it yet but i can do so today [15:00] zul, no rush this week [15:10] salve [15:21] i activated proprietary nvidia driver xx.73 and now X wont start. i got into text mode, but how do i switch out of the nvidia proprietary driver? === _Sieb is now known as Sieb [15:34] last try before re-installing.. i installed the proprietary nvidia driver and now cant get into X. how do i return to other framebuffer. [15:38] hispeed67: kill lightdm, purge the driver, create a new /etc/X11/xorg.conf, file and restart lightdm [15:40] hispeed67: Out of curiosity, which driver are you using and which card? I just installed the nvidia drivers on my server yesterday for my GT240. [15:52] brianh: awesome, just booting from cd to do reinstall.. already killed lightdm and renamed bunch of lightdm files to lightdm.old. 50/50 on the reinstall. it is *currently* installed on a slow 40g drive, i have a 200G drive i was going to install to.. [15:53] hispeed67: If you do a fresh install on the 200GB drive, it should set it up with the nouveau drivers. [15:54] i think that is what ima gonna do.. it's an old ms-8917 video card. [15:54] fx-5200 [15:55] Yeah, the nouveau drivers should be plenty sufficient for that card. Why did you install the proprietary drivers? [15:55] see if any performance improvement.. [15:56] Ah, gotcha. I would recommend imaging your HDD once you have the base system setup, that way you have a fall back in case you mess it up again. :P [15:57] It begs the question of why you are even using X on a server install ;) [15:57] I use X myself because I run a bunch of KVM machines. [15:57] cause im more familiar with xtools.. prefer to *boot* into text mode and use startx if i need X. [15:59] does virt-manager not work for remote kvm management? [16:01] hitsujiTMO: Yep, but it's my home server so I don't care much to run it remotely. [16:02] I got a message saying unable to load system information due to load higher then 1.0 what is this means? [16:03] means you system load is high [16:03] the cpu load? [16:03] Patero-ng: openssh-server wont run the motd scripts when your load is higher than 1.0% [16:04] why is 1% cpu load dangerous? [16:04] do I need a faster cpu [16:04] Patero-ng: no [16:05] 1.0 load is not 1% cpu. [16:06] ohh [16:07] Yeah, 1.0 means your CPU is doing the most it possibly can. You can have a higher load number, which means things start getting queued. [16:07] i was going to stripe 4 * 16g flash drives... thoughts?? [16:08] BrianH: k [16:08] hispeed67: lol, really? [16:09] hispeed67: Just to learn how raid works? [16:09] just to fuk with it.. yea...think it would suck??? [16:09] anyone use deluge-web in here? wondering if you've noticed that title bar preferences don't save on exit. [16:09] no, i know how raid works, just have an excess of flash drives [16:09] It might destroy the drives after a while, depending on how much you use them. [16:10] have 7*16G, 3*32G and 2*64G... [16:10] Patero-ng: Pici: my apologies. yes, load 1.0 is a cpu is on full. but doesn't necessarily mean you need to upgrade. [16:10] usually on startup... [16:10] hitsujiTMO: technically its just 1 core of the CPU [16:10] give time to start before loggingg and and that 1.0 will prolly go away [16:11] hispeed67: On USB3? [16:11] one of the 32's is usb3, rest are usb2, but ports are only usb2 anyway === Sieb is now known as _Sieb [16:12] hispeed67: on-board ports or through a hub? I never really thought about using flash drives for raids, but now I'm thinking it might be a cool way to show students, lol. [16:12] hub [16:12] BrianH: it's cheap... [16:13] I have a problem my wireless card is not detected anymore it's a netgear wag511 pcmcia [16:13] hispeed67: Looks like someone already did this: http://bigbruin.com/reviews05/thumbraid_1 [16:13] doh. [16:14] reading [16:15] oh it just detected it I think the connectors were dirty [16:15] jamespage: ok i just merged/synced a bunch of openstack dependencies [16:15] it's a 10 year old pcmcia [16:16] hispeed67: I like the concept though. 4 x 4GB drives + a hub and you got a simple setup for a RAID experiment under $25. [16:17] im using 4x16 for my home dir [16:17] USB2 maxes out at 25M/s per hub though [16:17] hispeed67: wow, his Raid 0 benchmarks were pretty impressive, haha. [16:18] for 4 drives ^^ [16:18] wonder why 2 drive was so much better than the rest.. [16:18] wrong chart [16:19] 4 drive doesn't look *that* bad... [16:19] considering i generally get 8-10mb/sec on single drive. === BrianH is now known as BrianH_afk === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [16:25] that raid looks like fun. have sdb1 for /home, it's a 40G drive. ima raid the 4 16G's and use for backup of /home :) === _Sieb is now known as Sieb [16:31] when i use apt-get install is there any way to specify where apt-get d/l's the files to? === unreal_ is now known as unreal === BrianH_afk is now known as BrianH [16:44] Anyone know if there's a fix yet for system-config-kickstart on 13.10? [16:45] Or any alternatives? [16:50] The only alternative I have is to use an older release in a VM to generate the cfg files and run a lamp stack. [16:53] hispeed67: what problem are you trying to solve? (I ask because normally people are quite content to let apt-get do whatever it does and magically have working packages ten seconds later...) === Sieb is now known as _Sieb === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [17:02] zul, did heat + ceilometer ever get acked for MRE? [17:03] adam_g: yep [17:14] If I want to allow rsylog rhelp traffic, how do I specify the protocol in iptables? I know it is not upd, but what is it? [17:14] sarnold: not a problem per-se, but i wind up installing multiple time before i get everything just right and would like to point apt-get to the pkgs i already d/l'ed instead of keep d/l'ing 100's of megs [17:15] so far, 12.04 server install 4 times, on the 5th time.. only found my wlan0 on install #2... :( [17:15] hoping it finds it on the 5th time... [17:16] during install, it finds eth0 and wlan0 but doesn't locate/find my ssid/router [17:16] hispeed67: apt keeps downloaded .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ -- which is handy to know if you ever need to manually rollback a bad package update, you can often find a handful of previous versions in that directory [17:17] that works, long as it keeps the .deb file, i can cp the .deb file to a flash drive so i dont have to redownload.. :) [17:17] hispeed67: if you're re-installing machines all the time, you may wish to use something like apt-cacher-ng or squid-deb-proxy [17:19] just trying to get 1 machine *as i like it*.. :) [17:19] from home, 40Mbit connection.. [17:19] ah hehe :) [17:19] jamespage, et al: Do you do any testing (over and above the built-in testing during packaging) for openvswitch source package (prior to releasing/pushing OVS)? [17:21] jamespage/adam_g: new pbr uploaded for trusty [17:23] med_, well it gets tested as part of the neutron topology testing we do [17:23] med_, and the package has dep-8 tests that exercise the dkms module and the userspace daemons for switch [17:23] before it gets pushed [17:24] nod, I saw the userspace tests [17:24] the 1 time the wlan0 worked, i did the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (or whatever) and d/l'ed 500M's, gonna have to do it again.. [17:24] med_, nothing pre-upload other than the unit testing that run as part of package build [17:25] thanks jamespage [17:26] what do you guys think is faster, cd-rom install or flash drive install? [17:27] hispeed67: flash drive install should be faster not only on raw io, but it will save you the walk to a museum [17:28] depends heavily on the flash drive, I think; usb1.1 will probably be slower than cd-rom but a usb 2.0 stick can probably out-pace a CD [17:28] sarnold: if it were raw sequential, which it's not, i think a usb stick will always beat a CD [17:29] it basically installs a bunch of .deb files in a certain order based on dependencies and all sorts of other stuff, it's almost guaranteed to be mostly random seeks followed by brief sequential reads, and that's about as worst-case as you can get for a medium that spins [17:29] anyway that's my $0.02, i haven't actually used anything but a net installer in like ten years. ;d [17:30] justizin: heh, good point, I don't know if any effort has been made to put the debs into an "install order" on the disc images. [17:31] it wouldn't be much worth it, if you have to install more than once or twice per distro release, it makes far more sense to mirror locally (or at least throw up a squid cache) [17:31] you can net install against a squid cache in like 5 min === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [17:32] is there a net installer for ubuntu 12.04 lts? [17:32] cause, im definitely down with a net installer... [17:32] yeah there should always be [17:33] i usually put it on a usb stick, it's just a far smaller image than the full installer [17:33] (it's also handy to netboot) [17:33] this looks like a decent guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/install-tftp.html [17:33] you can also just boot a usb stick to like a 16MB image that installs over the web [17:34] yeah, I quite like those "mini install images" that just get you to a point where you can run apt-get install for whatever else you need. :) hehe [17:34] hey i have a question how much does it take to mkfs.ntfs or format a 4gb pendrive is taking like 5min and is just on 10% is this normal hello [17:34] ewe, prefer justizin's choice.. i have a 12.04 on a 16G usb stick.. yea, a mini-install image would be cool, not wanting to setup a tftp/bootp [17:34] * justizin is searching for an image [17:35] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD <- ignore everything that says 'CD' in this wiki page. ;) [17:36] and i think there's an app that creates a usb for you.. there are so many ways to create an installer it's become labyrinthine [17:36] which i almost definitely spelled wrong [17:37] I'd stay away from the gtk-image-creator or whatever it was, it seems beyond broken. the only advantage it had over 'dd' (gui aside) is that it could make a storage space on the stick for persistent storage. kinda neat, but the tool as a whole seems pretty broken for those who try it :( [17:37] i use the netboot thingy. [17:38] using windoze machine to make the iso for the linux boxen [17:38] unetbootin [17:40] im prolly not doing this the best way. system is installed, but not seeing my wlan0 adapter.. keep re-installing waiting for it to see it. 5th install, saw it on the 2nd install, but i screwed up my X driver, now im on 5th install trying to get wlan0 to work. === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [17:53] jamespage, another question: precise-proposed has OVS 1.4.6 (and it's been there for a while). Is there a bug somewhere that needs verified to get that into precise-updates? === _Sieb is now known as Sieb [18:03] these installs are kicking my ass... none are finding my wlan0 card [18:03] it's a dlink [18:03] 1 install last night did, so i keep trying.. :( [18:04] install over wired, then setup wlan? [18:04] im installing from cd now, ill try to fix wlan after install finishes... :( bumming [18:04] 48% [18:06] hispeed67: most of those kinds of issues are far easier to solve once the system is up and running and you've got access to all the archive and its utilities [18:08] been a *long* time since i used linux, lots has changed.. [18:09] used to be able to use ifconfig and if-up, not even sure what tools are available nowadays.. [18:12] hispeed67: ifconfig and ifup are still there; 'ip' provides more features, but the debian-based config files don't make it easy to get to them all.. [18:13] quit doing heavy duty unix stuff in 99 [18:14] played with it a lot, but nothing that i *had* to make work.. [18:14] etc/init.d has changed too.. [18:14] runlevels aren't the same either. [18:15] lotta relearning to do.. i should prolly be in a general-chat room.. [18:16] sarnold: whats ip? iptables??? [18:18] hispeed67: 'ip' is the 'new' interface to manage everything that used to be done by route and ifconfig -- it's got more features (ability to set multiple IP addresses per device without needing silly "alias" devices) [18:20] ok, system installed, rebooted. only have lo interface... [18:23] hispeed67: what does lspci -k show for your NIC and your wlan card? [18:25] atheros.. [18:25] sis for eth0, atheros for wlan [18:26] sis900 and ath5k [18:27] i connected the sis900 (i.e. plugged in the net cable) [18:27] still only seeing lo though [18:27] hispeed67: and does 'ip link show' and 'ifconfig -a' show anything? how about 'iwconfig -a'? [18:28] ip link show lists lo, eth0 and wlan0 [18:29] so does ifconfig -a (but with no ip addy info) [18:29] iwconfig also shows all 3 if's [18:29] so, the kernel sees the if's then.. [18:30] they just aren't configured??? [18:34] ifup wlan0 and ifup eth0 give error unknown interface wlan0=wlan0 [18:35] sarnold: you still here? [18:35] hispeed67: does your /etc/network/interfaces look sane? [18:36] only shows lo [18:36] no eth0 or wlan0 in it. [18:41] should i add eth0 and wlan0 to it? [18:42] hispeed67: depends; if you're building a server, you'll probably want to assign static IPs, and /etc/network/interfaces is the place to do it. if you're doing a desktop, it'll be managed by networkmanager, and then your /etc/network/interfaces will have very little in it.. [18:44] i can go either way with it. it's a home/development server [18:45] going to be a webserver/forum server [18:47] static is nice but you've got to poke out a hole for the IP range from your router's DHCP range [18:49] i only have like 12 ip's being handed out (printers, phones, tablets, laptops and desktops) so i could just use an upper ip (i.e. 24.211.120.232) which is never dhcp'ed [18:50] funny thing abou addresses which are "never" handed out ... [18:50] they eventually do get handed out :) hehe [18:50] it's worth picking a part of your range to block out for static; either everything about 127 or above 200 or whatever is easy for you to remeber. [18:51] router only dhcp 0-100, so i could use 101+ [18:52] just set to dhcp 125 ip's, so 128+ should be fine for me. [18:54] router also has static ip pool mapped to mac addy [18:57] oh nice, you're on the ball then :) hehe [18:57] i can figure out the ip specific stuff later, if i could just get wlan0 (or, even eth0 now) working.. :) [18:58] hispeed67: try using iwconfig to associate with an essid.. [18:58] rebooting another linux i have on a flash drive and see if it findsd it [18:58] hispeed67: off for a bit, good luck, have fun :) [18:59] doh.. damn. [19:05] med_, yep - there is [19:05] its on my todo list [19:05] med_, but if you could deploy and test with it +1000 [19:07] CHECK IT OUT! 4-line patch to xserver-xorg-video-qxl enables using spice xserver standalone like a vncserver - i.e. for contaienrs [19:07] stgraber: ^ [19:07] jamespage, cool. [19:08] hallyn: nice! [19:08] stgraber: the two new debps are in main, so there's no reason we can't do this for trusty [19:08] now, who babysits those packages these days :) [19:27] hi guys, what can cause 'lxc_container: command get_cgroup failed to receive response' ? [19:28] the context is qa-radeon-7750 in the ci lab using otto, has been re-installed from scratch, I probably missed some bit of the config [19:29] did I mention trusty ? ;) [19:29] I have another host, also running trusty that is not experiencing the issue and ca be used as a reference but I don't know *where* to look === justizin_ is now known as justizin [19:32] stgraber: ^ ? [19:33] vila: can you give me the IP? [19:34] stgraber: 10.97.2.156 [19:35] stgraber: the container is named trusty-otto [19:36] lxc-start: Error setting memory.memsw.limit_in_bytes to 4G for trusty-otto [19:37] stgraber: hold on, that the last bit I try [19:37] tried [19:38] stgraber: try again [19:38] lxc-start: Error setting memory.memsw.limit_in_bytes to 2560M for trusty-otto [19:38] stgraber: yeah, not sure if otto doesn't do some tricks before calling lxc-start [19:39] 3530 open("/sys/fs/cgroup/memory/lxc/trusty-otto/memory.memsw.limit_in_bytes", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC|O_CLOEXEC, 0666) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) [19:39] stgraber: sudo su - jenkins and then sudo bin/otto -d start trusty-otto === Sieb is now known as _Sieb [19:40] stgraber: ^ is what I use [19:40] vila: is the memory limit something new in your setup? [19:41] stgraber: it was 4G before the re-install, I just reverted it. So not really new [19:42] ok, the failure is because LXC is getting permission denied when trying to write the new memory limit, not sure why that's happening though [19:43] stgraber: here is the doc I'm following http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~otto-dev/otto/trunk/view/head:/doc/README [19:44] stgraber: the only bit I didn't do is the CONFIG_MEMCG_SWAP_ENABLED=Y [19:44] stgraber: nor the apport one but we shouldn't care for now [19:49] vila: the swap limit seems to be the problem [19:50] stgraber: memsw.limit_in_bytes ? [19:50] yep [19:52] vila: machine will reboot twice [19:52] stgraber: what did you do ? (I'm trying to document this re-install) [19:53] vila: adding the missing swapaccount kernel parameter [19:53] it's already in your doc [19:53] stgraber: excuse my ignorance but I couldn't decipher that part, what should be changed and where ? [19:54] vila: right, that did it, everything works fine now [19:54] root@qa-radeon-7750:~# grep swapac /etc/default/grub [19:54] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet swapaccount=1" [19:54] sudo update-grub [19:54] sudo reboot [19:54] ack === _Sieb is now known as Sieb [20:16] stgraber: so swapaccount is really only needed if/when lxc want enforce memory limits (did I get that right ? Never had to do that elsewhere) [20:16] *to enforce [20:16] vila: correct, you need that option if you want to use the swap memory restrictions [20:17] stgraber: ok, makes sense, will need to discuss if we really want to do that given that the host is dedicated to otto... [20:17] stgraber: anyway, thanks again, for the fish and the fishing ;) === vila is now known as lt-columbo [20:32] stgraber: one more question, sir ? Why isn't this parameter set to 1 by default ? === lt-columbo is now known as vila [20:32] lt-columbo: probably because of some memory or performance impact, you'd have to ask a kernel developer [20:32] stgraber: d'oh. I just realized I left /var/cache/lxc as is. [20:32] [20:32] stgraber: oh, you've not yet accepted that merge request? [20:33] hallyn: no, I just commented in it [20:33] stgraber: ok, not something you care more than that yourself ? [20:33] vila: nope, most of my machines don't have swap ;) [20:33] stgraber: oh lemme go check. then i can fix this as well. [20:33] stgraber: right, can't think why we want swap for a container... [20:34] stgraber: anyway, I won't bother you more with that ;) [20:45] stgraber: proposal updated [20:45] happy i didn't just push to the archive [20:45] "I had a feeling" it would pay off [20:46] hm, maybe i should run my nameserver to redirect plain decimal numbers to pad.lv/$n === Sieb is now known as _Sieb [21:10] I just found out that formatting a pendrive with fat32 is a lot faster then formatting it with ntfs [21:21] Patero-ng: heh, yeah, FAT just writes a quick table at the front of the filesystem and ignores all the data blocks. very quick. :) [21:25] sarnold: why can't ntfs do the same [21:27] Patero-ng: it has to do with the on-disk layout of filesystem datastructures; FAT is extremely simple, NTFS is not. :) [21:29] sarnold: u rock [21:29] \m/ === Gurkenmaster is now known as zz_Gurkenmaster [22:03] query roaksoax [22:20] guys, is it wrong thinking that Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't implement ns ant net_cls subystems ? or is just lssubsys utility NOT returning them ? [22:21] ive installed pangolin precise (12.04.3) and my sis eth0 is working, but the wireless is not.. [22:21] also, X doesnt work, crashes to cli [22:23] argh, i been trying to get this working since last night. [22:23] i dont even know what to do next..... please, somebody [22:25] hispeed76: do you get any error messages in dmesg that might indicate the problem with the wireless? do you get any error messages in /var/log/Xorg* that might indicate the error with the graphics? [22:26] i finally have 12.04.3 server reinstalled. still no wlan0, but eth0 is working. no X, crashes out to cli... using neauveau (sp?) have fx5200 card. [22:26] anybody, please help.. im burning out on this. [22:26] hispeed67: do you get any error messages in dmesg that might indicate the problem with the wireless? do you get any error messages in /var/log/Xorg* that might indicate the error with the graphics? [22:27] dmesg shows hundreds of cache errors on nouveau [22:30] shows ath5k registered as phy0 [22:30] ill write off X, work on that later.. [22:30] but, this wireless is kinda important [22:32] sarnold that is pretty much all i see about ath [22:32] a registered and a chip found line.. [22:34] 5 re-install, installing doesn't fix it... [22:34] 5th [22:34] hispeed67: so, the module is loaded, iwconfig sees it, ifconfig sees it, what happens when you try to associate it with an essid? [22:35] iwconfig sees it, ifconfig does *not* [22:37] ifconfig doesn't show it, ifconfig wlan0 does. i take that back [22:39] so does ifconfig -a [22:39] i giving up.. [22:39] not worth it.. too hard. [22:40] hispeed67: what happened when you tried to associate the wlan device with a wireless network using iwconfig? [22:40] i dont know how to do that.. [22:41] hispeed67: iwconfig wlan0 essid network-name-here [22:41] i did that.. [22:42] then when i did, then did iwconfig it shows the essid in the info [22:42] hispeed67: .. and does it show an Access Point MAC? [22:43] rebooted into windows, shit just works...this sucks (not linux, my inability to get it to work) [22:43] rebooting again [22:48] now, when i type iwconfig wlan0 essid linda [22:48] i get error, operation not permitted [22:48] hispeed67: are you running that command as root or via sudo? [22:48] changing network configuration requires administrative privileges [22:48] (which is why desktop people use network-manager -- it runs with privileges and provides a handy drop-down box for people..) [22:49] doh, see, im just burning out, hadnt sudoed yet.. [22:50] ok, shows essid linda, access-point not associated [22:52] now what? [22:53] hispeed67: do you need to enable WEP or WPA2? [22:53] wpa2 [22:53] psk [22:53] (I can't recall if these would prevent association with an AP or not..) [22:53] guess it is easier to just re-install until it works [22:54] hispeed67: do you have the wpasupplicant package installed? that may be necessary.. [22:54] oof, not my first choice. the installer is such a stripped-down environment it's hard to do anything, and it takes for bloody ever compared to just changing settings... [22:54] it is installed [22:55] wpasupplicant that is [22:56] i can turn off wpa/psk on the router and make the router wide open.. [22:56] but, that will break the other 12 devices that are using passwords [22:56] hispeed67: I've not set that up manually; check the wpa_supplicant manpage for more details about it. [22:56]