[05:21] morning all [06:10] morning [06:10] hi Squirm [07:34] hi bduk [07:48] hiya maiatoday [07:53] oh my, they got a bad connection today [07:54] my connection is still awesome [07:54] yay [07:54] mine is slow but normally very constant [07:54] i see everyone else part/join [08:06] lol [08:06] gotta love BMW [08:06] I phone em and I'm like, I need a service, they go, your motorplan expired 10 days ago, Im like, how much to extend it, they go 15 grand, I said fine, paid it, got it extended, took the car for a service (knowing full well there was something seriously wrong with it) [08:07] they come back and go "errr, you've got a blown turbo, we'll fix it under the motor plan" [08:07] I said "as a matter of interest, how much WOULD that have cost if it HADNT been in motorplan" they are like "57k" [08:07] haha [08:13] rofl [08:13] wow [08:14] smart, and lucky you are [08:15] very lucky [08:26] hey Symmetria [08:27] Hello [08:27] hi tal0n [09:02] sorry guys [09:31] hi psyatw [09:31] so when do you leave [09:40] morning inetpro plustwo Mzolisto [09:41] and hi superfly [09:41] hi Kilos [10:09] hi Kilos [10:13] hi superfly, Kilos [10:13] got a strange problem friday - during an update of 13.04 the processing of apport failed [10:14] hi charl_ [10:14] hi superfly [10:14] hi psyatw [10:15] not sure what to do about this: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: apport is broken or not fully installed [10:15] very strange, first time in years that an update has gone wrong [10:17] hi charl_ [10:17] do aptitude reinstall apport [10:17] that should give some feedback at least [10:18] ok, first have to install aptitude [10:18] or dont you use aptitude [10:19] doesn't matter, installing it now [10:19] haha thats one of the first things i install [10:19] its better than apt-get for lotsa things [10:19] ok running aptitude now [10:19] great, seems like it worked ! [10:19] thanks Kilos [10:19] yw [10:20] always install aptitude and use for installing stuff and upgrading [10:20] yeah after this i think i'm just going to move to aptitude [10:20] been sticking to apt-get for way too long, lots of people have told me to move to aptitude already [10:21] i always check with apt-get upgrade then do aptitude and it always does more and removes what inst necessary anymore [10:21] isnt [10:21] i had one bad experience with aptitude a long time ago where it removed some packages it wasn't supposed it [10:21] *to [10:21] oh you one of those that dont wash his ears [10:21] but that must have been like 7 years ago or something [10:22] lol [10:22] there are some things like i saw a stupid game i wanted to remove and it said it must remove ubuntu-desktop as well [10:22] always read [10:22] yeah exactly ! [10:23] that's why i moved back to apt-get [10:23] sorry i gotta go to a meeting bbl [10:23] i find the same thing in synaptic sometimes [10:26] yeah apt-get is dumb but sometimes that's a good thing [10:26] synaptic and aptitude are too smart for themselves :P [10:26] ok now really going :P [10:26] hehe [10:26] i love aptitude [10:40] if only it had super cow powers :/ [10:40] at times its them powers that break things [10:40] i think [10:43] aptitude is safer to use most of the time [13:45] good morning Kilos [13:45] hello everyone else [13:45] oh my goodness me inetpro where did you drop outa [13:45] hmm... [13:46] you gotta make some time sometime [13:46] i need guidance with that office writer agan. but not now [13:47] i also need some info about buying things online [13:47] * inetpro dropped out of the skies [13:47] i found dvd multi writers for R165 or so but dunno how things work [13:48] do they give bank acc. then i get money depositted there and they post it to me or what [13:49] difficult being stupid ne [13:50] i see the goodie Add to cart but i dont even have a cart [13:50] grrr [13:52] inetpro, tell me man [13:53] uh [13:53] sorry [13:53] * inetpro busy [13:53] ok [13:54] Kilos: depends on the site [13:54] some you can trust less than others [13:54] hi Vince-0 [13:54] Haai mense [13:54] ok ill get links [13:55] Kilos: most of the times they just want your credit card [13:55] had a bad time here tried to make remastersys dvd and couldnt write to dvdrom so got sis to get other make dvd's and she brought dual layers [13:55] i dont have one man [13:55] cash only [13:56] you can't transfer cash over the interwebs [13:56] ya but if they give acc. no. i can get sis to go deposit next time she goes in [13:57] hmm... don't think that will work [13:57] unless it's a local thingy [13:59] http://www.pricecheck.co.za/categories/142/DVD+Drives/ [13:59] lemme go to one [14:01] yoh there's my mobile client - will be out and about tonight for the meet [14:02] http://www.purpleflytrading.co.za/uncategorized-c-92760/lg-dvd-24x-writer-retail-p-2819476.html [14:03] you not gonna make it Vince-0 ? [14:03] is that purple fly group crooks [14:04] I'll make it from the mobile [14:04] what happened to your wifi? [14:04] DSL is broken for days now [14:05] eish [14:05] yaar as soon as I get home, DSL is out and PC mobo is dead [14:06] I'm sure I complained about it here already [14:06] that sucks [14:06] where is the prob do you think? [14:06] you gotta find someone to keep mailing till you get action [14:09] no liny sync to the dslam [14:09] happens every few months [14:13] why the hell is SAA using ported phone numbers on their land line when you call them [14:13] are they using bloody cell phones in their call centre or something [14:13] lol [14:13] then they can lie at home and answer [14:14] well the assholes need to learn that the reason they have a platinum card holder line is so that people with plat cards can actually PHONE IT and hear what people are saying on the other end [14:14] * Symmetria is grumpy [14:16] Maaz: weather in Mooirivier [14:16] Squirm: That didn't seem to agree with me [14:16] Maaz: weather in Mooirivier, za [14:16] Squirm: That didn't go down very well. Burp. [14:16] hmm [14:16] maaz: weather in london [14:17] Symmetria: Too many places match london: London, Arkansas; London, Kentucky; London, Minnesota; London, Ohio; London, Ontario; London, Texas; London, United Kingdom and London, West Virginia [14:17] maaz: weather in london, united kingdom [14:17] Symmetria: In London, United Kingdom at 1:50 PM GMT on October 28, 2013: 13°C; Humidity: 77%; Wind: West at 30 km/h; Conditions: Light Rain Showers; Sunrise/set: 6:48 AM GMT/4:41 PM GMT; Moonrise/set: /1:53 PM GMT [14:17] hehe [14:17] ;p maaz lies, the real answer for that is always the same: "shit" [14:17] ;p [14:17] lol [14:17] maaz: weather in cupertino, california [14:17] Symmetria: In Moffett NAS, California at 7:10 AM PDT on October 28, 2013: 12°C; Humidity: 7°C; Wind: 28 km/h; Conditions: Scattered Clouds; Sunrise/set: 7:29 AM PDT/6:14 PM PDT; Moonrise/set: 1:34 AM PDT/2:52 PM PDT [14:18] wtf, 12C [14:18] its california, its supposed to be NICE weather [14:18] * Symmetria shoots maaz for giving him bad news [14:19] noman dont shoot the coffee maker [14:20] tell him sorry Symmetria [14:44] ry inetpro storm kom [14:45] Kilos: serious!? [14:45] hoor jy nie die donderweer nie? [14:45] eish, nee [14:50] lyk nog ok by julle [14:50] kom van haartebeestpoort af [14:50] krag klaar een keer geflikker jier [15:01] s/jier/hier [15:05] if i disappear power died [16:03] hi everyone [16:41] hey, i need some advice picking a new laptop. Any suggestions, i'm looking at the Lenovo range [16:42] hi gwoodford [16:42] * inetpro unfortunately has never used the Lenovo range [16:44] gwoodford: see http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/make/Lenovo/?category=Desktop&category=Laptop [16:46] thanks inetpro, if i want to be able to pay games, say from Steam, should i stick to only the nvidia ones? [16:46] hmm... wish I had the answer for you [16:47] and also, should i filter on the available from ubuntu.com and not look at the available from manucturer [16:47] I'm not sure where we stand with nvidia these days [16:47] for gaming on linux you are pretty much stuck with nvidia [16:47] Tonberry: yeah, think as much [16:48] but if you wanted to pay say R8000, which one would you get? [16:48] i haven't shopped for laptops in over a year [16:49] i have no idea whats out there [16:49] superfly, tumbleweed: maybe you guys can help here? [16:51] gwoodford: I like the T-series and X-series thinkpads [16:52] (and so do most other people, I think) [16:52] wb Kilos [16:52] ty inetpro [16:52] nearly thought i was gonna miss my first meeting, or have i missed one before [16:52] * tumbleweed has an X220 (the current replacement is X240) [16:53] tumbleweed: ok, i'll look through the T and X series and see what i like, thanks :) [16:53] gwoodford: as to Nvidia [16:53] I have no idea what nvidia is like on laptops these days, but I'd expect worse battery life than intel graphics [16:54] gwoodford: please note that we have a meeting here at 20:30 this evening [16:54] and switching between intel and nvidia on the fly (optimus) is still not very well supported [16:54] hi gwoodford hope you were welcomed here [16:55] anyone is welcome to attend [16:55] i currently have a dell vostro 1720, which uses nvidia, which has great gaming support, but it overheats and the battery is dying [16:56] evening tumbleweed [16:56] inetpro: yes, i know [16:56] hello [16:56] hi kbmonkey_ [16:56] with a tail [16:56] kbmonkey_: wb, you chairing again this evening? [16:57] inetpro: tumbleweed whats the ibid command to restart when its on a host [16:57] yes [16:57] hard work the ssh way [16:57] cool === kbmonkey_ is now known as kbmonkey [16:58] Kilos: you just want to change the nick? [16:58] that too ya inetpro [16:58] I think it was as simple as "QA_: nick QA [16:58] " [16:58] ah lovely ty very much [16:59] my hat am tired today [17:00] Kilos: or rather "change nick to WHATEVER" === QA is now known as QA- === QA- is now known as QA [17:02] thats the way ty [17:02] mooi! [17:02] Kilos: hi. ah, you got it [17:02] yeah ty tumbleweed [17:02] the pro is helpful at times [17:03] ai! [17:03] :-) [17:03] lol [17:03] that made my evening [17:04] i think im gonna try kubuntu 13.10 next month [17:04] everyone says its fast [17:06] * inetpro wbbl [17:09] oh my where be the fly? [17:17] o/ [17:17] hi oom Kilos [17:18] is dit vanaand meeting? [17:22] hi nuvolari yeah [17:37] Maaz, tea please [17:37] As soon as the kettle boils kbmonkey I will pour boiling water into your cup if you have the tea bag in already [17:38] Maaz, make me a sandwich [17:38] kbmonkey: What? Make it yourself. [17:38] Maaz, sudo make me a sandwich [17:38] kbmonkey: sudo make me a sandwich is $nick is not in sudoers file. This incident will be ported. [17:38] lol [17:38] he he [17:39] thats the message centos kept giving me [17:39] yup. server OS'es do not add users to sudoers by default [17:42] lol [17:42] ive removed it and put ubuntu there in case this pc dies [17:44] oh my I must be tired. almost pasted loads of text into irc [17:44] thank goodness for irssi, it stopped me [17:47] net is having hiccups tonight [17:47] lol [17:48] not cool [17:48] over 4 lines it kicks you [17:48] or refuses to send [17:48] every 2mins ithe net blacks out for a minute [17:48] eish [17:49] our internet is actually getting worse i think [17:50] story of our lives [17:51] how does the agenda look? [17:54] havent looked [17:54] i dont think theres is much [17:54] maybe some in events [17:55] still loading the loco page... [17:55] someone had an inpromptu release party i saw in the mail [17:56] and i think its maia thats organising one down there [17:58] i read mails and delete most of them and chop and change tween kde and unity so forget most of whats said [17:59] and trying to write a book with libreoffice is heavy work [17:59] writing a book? nice one. [17:59] there is no info i find for normal peeps [17:59] booklet [18:00] informative? [18:01] or short story? [18:01] how to fix pcs [18:01] and do your own data recoveries and so on [18:01] and i wanna sell it to windows peeps [18:01] hehe [18:02] they like paying for everything [18:02] ;) [18:03] if you cant beat them join them [18:04] maybe i can get lotsa data if it sells [18:13] I go make some tea [18:18] * Kilos reboots quick to unity [18:20] Maaz, tell kilos welcome back [18:20] kbmonkey: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [18:21] * inetpro getting ready for coffee and rusks [18:21] anyone else for coffee? [18:21] Maaz: coffee on [18:21] * Maaz puts the kettle on [18:21] hehe [18:21] pc seems a bit faster [18:21] Kilos, the thunder is rolling in again [18:21] Maaz, coffee please [18:21] Kilos: Sure [18:24] kbmonkey: you have a huge agenda for tonight [18:24] inetpro, you won't believe [18:24] no, not really. [18:25] Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos! [18:25] Maaz, danke [18:25] Bitteschön [18:25] :-/ [18:25] * nuvolari facedesks himself [18:25] oh wait, did I not miss it? [18:26] :-) [18:26] Maaz: danke [18:26] Bitteschön [18:26] So suß [18:27] just enough time to fetch tea [18:27] bbiab [18:31] time kbmonkey [18:32] min peeps here i see [18:33] it is time [18:33] Maaz, begin meeting about Monthly Ubuntu-ZA IRC meet [18:33] kbmonkey: Excuse me? [18:33] wat [18:33] lol [18:33] Maaz, start meeting about Monthly Ubuntu-ZA IRC meet [18:33] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:34] o/ hello kbmonkey [18:34] Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer [18:34] inetpro: Okay [18:34] hi nuvolari [18:34] Maaz, I am Miles Sharpe [18:34] Kilos: Yessir [18:34] Maaz, I am Wesley Werner [18:34] kbmonkey: Done [18:34] Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt [18:34] nuvolari: Sure [18:34] Maaz: I am Zorro [18:34] nuvolari: Okay [18:34] Maaz, I am Daan Schutte [18:34] tal0n: Righto [18:34] hehe [18:34] hmm, which one will I end up as? [18:35] nuvolari: I think both [18:35] hi everyone [18:35] * inetpro is not sure [18:35] hi tal0n [18:35] Maaz: minutes so far? [18:35] Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-10-28-18-33-57.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-10-28-18-33-57.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-10-28-18-33-57.html [18:35] hi tal0n, inetpro [18:35] thanks inetpro [18:35] welcome everyone, to another monthly meeting. [18:35] you can find the limited agenda at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/666/detail/ [18:35] nuvolari: Zorro [18:35] oh dear [18:36] Maaz, topic Welcome and previous minutes [18:36] Current Topic: Welcome and previous minutes [18:36] Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt [18:36] nuvolari: Sure [18:36] yes, welcome [18:36] lol [18:36] sorry for the noise [18:36] zorro has left the building [18:36] nooo! it won't take my override now [18:36] I guess my 2nd name will be Zorro :P [18:37] lol [18:37] we have a new member? [18:37] tal0n: your first meeting? [18:37] right, wrt the last meeting, there was some events that happened since then. [18:38] inetpro: yes indeed [18:38] tal0n: nice! Hope you'll be back for many more [18:38] there was software freedom day. and there was, um.. PyCon [18:38] welcome tal0n :) Hope you have a good time here [18:38] sadly it looks like tonight will be mare routine if I look at the short agenda [18:39] Let us keep an eye out for photos on those events, post em through the mailing list. [18:39] s/mare/mere/ [18:39] a mare mistake inetpro [18:39] hehe [18:39] thanks inetpro, nuvolari [18:39] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [18:39] superfly: Yessir [18:39] wb superfly [18:39] and I am out, I have a migraine [18:39] wb superfly [18:39] eish! [18:39] aw shame man [18:40] hello superfly [18:40] * nuvolari hands superfly some panado's [18:40] superfly: go sleep it off [18:40] Maaz, topic Event - Ubuntu 13.10 Release parties [18:40] Current Topic: Event - Ubuntu 13.10 Release parties [18:40] sorry to hear that superfly [18:40] we can hold the fort [18:40] blame it on Monday ;) [18:41] agreed [18:41] nuvolari: panado, what is that? [18:41] I don't even take panado for my normal headaches [18:41] superfly: eh? what's wrong with panado's? [18:42] or do you mean they don't have an effect on your headaches? [18:42] too weak for migraine [18:42] ah [18:42] migraine bad news [18:42] pots before the eyes [18:42] there was release parties in CT last weekend, right? [18:42] *past weekend [18:42] * nuvolari darts superfly with an elephant tranquiliser [18:42] better? :P [18:43] hehe [18:43] lol [18:43] I think I saw a post by maiatoday [18:44] I guess we shall have to make an effort to get more release parties organised for the next release [18:44] which will be the LTS release [18:44] yeah, I'll join the LTS release parties :P I don't get time to upgrade otherwise [18:44] ya 14.04 is a lts [18:45] * inetpro also prefers the LTS releases [18:45] though I have had good feedback from people who upgraded to 13:10 [18:46] 13.10 [18:46] found some pics from the release party - https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/cg692d6nvj5u4ev8k3f2v5086os [18:46] thanks to maia for posting those [18:46] yeah, saw someone with gnome shell, looks pretty good [18:46] kbmonkey: well done! [18:47] the agenda says to plan release parties for first week in November [18:47] guess CT couldn't wait [18:48] ahh, so there is still time to arrange something? [18:48] indeed! [18:49] hopefully someone rwading this will be inspired to take the lead [18:49] reading* [18:49] anyone can arrange a release party [18:52] Guidelines for Running a Release Party: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity/RunningReleaseParty [18:52] back. ssh got disconnected... [18:52] cool thanks inetpro ! [18:53] does anybody have a specific idea in mind right now? [18:54] * inetpro has very limited time to do anything outside of work [18:54] knows the feeling! [18:54] family unfortunately has to come first [18:54] alright, let us keep it in mind and remember: the mailing list is the first stop! [18:55] moving on... [18:55] +! [18:55] Maaz, topic Closing words and next chair [18:55] Current Topic: Closing words and next chair [18:55] oops... +1 [18:55] lol +! [18:56]