[00:08] should I bother releasing a patch for users-admin to fix the "harmless" segfault on exit and cleanup some critical warnings? It looks like nobody cares about users-admin aynway [00:12] it looks like quite some work to verify the changes and release a fixed package [00:17] brainwash, we're still using that. [00:20] skellat: you pinged? [00:20] micahg: I didn't expect all of 4.11, i was just saying it would be far easier if it was all in experimental [00:21] micahg: do you think i've done enough to apply for MOTU and/or xubuntu dev [00:21] and one last thing, can you review my merge of xfce4-session? [00:27] Noskcaj: far easier for what [00:28] For seeing what we want [00:28] and if it's stable [00:28] Noskcaj: it's less about quantity than quality + experience, I'd need to review your latest stuff to tell you [00:28] Noskcaj: merge, probably tomorrow [00:29] * micahg is trying to finish up some work ATM [00:29] ok, https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/xfce4-session/4.10.1-3 is my merge [00:31] If there's anything i can do to help, let me know. All my stuff is done [00:37] there are still some changes pending for xubuntu-default-settings, low priority, but already 1 months old [00:38] month [06:03] Can we add http://www.thecodingstudio.com/?linux&release=Xubuntu%2013.10 to the "in the press" webpage [06:43] brainwash, https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10395 has a patch now [06:43] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10395 in General "Terminal crashes when opening the encoding submenu" [Normal,New] [06:53] bug 1206739 being the original [06:53] bug 1206739 in xfce4-terminal (Ubuntu) "xfce4-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in magazine_chain_pop_head()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206739 [07:15] bug 1245355 [07:15] bug 1245355 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "New pop-up notification panel triggered by xfce4-display-settings blocks view and access" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1245355 [08:56] jjfrv8: i've gone through your prefs-docs, looks good so far! the remove-duplicates bug was recently fixed by bluesabre, so hope you can then update that part [09:36] good morning all [09:56] hey slickymaster [09:56] nice work on the terminal-options, just read through that a bit earlier today [09:57] the formatting has to be adjusted to fit the xfce-docs, but other than that it's the right direction! [09:57] ochosi: good monrning [09:58] ochosi: that's good. So, in your opinion, is any fix required? [09:59] slickymaster: apart from the formatting (using "?" and "!" for the indentation) it looks good [09:59] haven't had time to look what plugin of dokuwiki does that on xfce.org [10:00] ochosi: that's my problem. I didn't manage to find in dokuwiki either [10:00] find it ^^ [10:00] yeah, no problem though [10:01] ochosi: me and jjfrv8 decide to split the Usage section and I wanted to ask something [10:01] I'm going to insert a few screenshots and I'm in doubt as to the size to use [10:03] bluesabre: could you please add this plugin to your dokuwiki installation? http://git.xfce.org/www/wiki.xfce.org/tree/lib/plugins/dl [10:03] bluesabre: it should fix the missing stuff like "?" and "!" for the terminal-options page [10:03] slickymaster: so i just found the missing plugin ^ [10:03] ochosi: Yeah :) [10:08] slickymaster: for the screenshots-size i'd say not much more than the screenshots here: http://docs.xfce.org/apps/terminal/preferences [10:08] and generally speaking not more size than needed [10:10] ochosi: thanks, I'll follow the Terminal's ones as reference. And as soon as bluesabre add the plugin I'll reformat the command-line options [10:11] cool, thanks for your help! [10:11] ochosi: np [10:13] installed, try it now [10:13] ochosi ^ [10:16] and/or slickymaster [10:17] oh, that was quick :) [10:17] morning bluesabre [10:17] morning [10:17] just dropped in as I was getting ready for work [10:19] ah right, i'm also about to run out [10:21] bluesabre: thanks, I'll try later on. I'm having same issues with a database here at work I need to solve [10:21] ok, cool [10:44] pleia2, http://jussi01.com/2013/10/28/kubuntu-polo-shirts-update/ === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:43] ochosi: http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=command-line is reformatted to fit the xfce-docs [15:22] ochosi, I don't know about using the gtk2-engines-xfce theme and the faenza icons for screenshots. It looks pretty bad. [15:22] ochosi, http://imagebin.org/275043 [15:23] you were right about that theme not working with the playback control bar but also some of the icons are just missing. [15:23] Can we just do our own thing and make it look as close as possible to the other xfce docs? [15:25] I have to run and won't be back until maybe 21UTC but... [15:25] slickymaster, I wanted to give you that heads up before you do too many screenshots. [15:27] bbl === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [15:44] evning [15:45] jjfrv8, ochosi, I was planning on use the default theme and icons packed with xfce, Greybird and elementary Xfce [15:51] slickymaster: that's xubuntu, not xfce itself === PaulW2U_ is now known as paulW2U [15:51] jjfrv8, slickymaster: so let's just do "our thing" as jjfrv8 said. but please remain consistent with each other if both of you take screenshots === paulW2U is now known as PaulW2U [15:51] or lets lay out the gtk/icon-theme by ourselves [15:52] i think greybird and elementary-xfce is fine [15:52] bluesabre: what do you think? ^ [15:53] ochosi: Yeah, you're about those being Xubuntu and not Xfce [15:53] you«re righ ^^ [15:53] sure, but nevermind, i think we need to use something that works properly [15:53] there is a version of the xfce engine for gtk3 though [15:53] * slickymaster has to re-learn how to type [15:54] should make things look semi-normal again [15:55] ochosi: maybe we should wait for bluesabre view on the subject [15:55] yeah [15:56] ochosi: has long as you're here, I've already corrected the indentation format in the command-line options section [16:02] slickymaster: ncice, will check in a minute [16:42] knome: do we want polos in addition to tshirts? (I don't wear polos, so I hadn't put much thought into them) [16:43] pleia2, i was mostly referring to the shipping/production model [16:43] oh :) [16:47] hi knome pleia2 [16:47] allö elfy [16:47] slickymaster: as --xv needs =true/false i'd add that to remain consistent with e.g. --display=DISPLAY [16:48] slickymaster: the rest looks good! after bluesabre has time to take a look at it i'd say this part is finished [17:54] evning [18:08] evening leif_ [18:08] hey [18:08] new user here [18:08] hi then :) [18:09] :) [18:09] still upgrading my lts [18:09] leif_, before you go further; if you have support questions or something related to that, please remember that #xubuntu is the right channel for that [18:09] ok [18:10] :) [18:10] thanks [18:11] a technical quistion does x ubuntu use the translation from ubuntu [18:14] leif_, that kind of counts as a support question, but the answer is yes, where applicable [18:14] ok [18:14] is helping whit the translations on ubuntu [18:16] which is something you could talk about here ;) [18:20] too late :> [18:21] nah, he's reappeared in #xubuntu [18:21] so there are still people who can only be in one place at one time? [18:21] haha [18:21] no [18:22] he was in both, but only rejoined #x after /quit [18:48] ochosi: so setting the required xwindowproperity (lightdm-gtk-greeter) and a simple rebuild of xfwm4 with the flag to enable background cloning would be the best solution, right? [18:50] the user could use another display manager or lightdm greeter though [19:12] hi Noskcaj - you still going to be doing the social thing ? "I'd like to be the xubuntu representative unless elfy wants to." [19:12] if you're not can you let me know please [19:13] Nothing has happened for that and i've not had the time/motivation for it. [19:14] I know that - if you're not going to do it if it comes up that's fine - I'd rather we just got on and did what we wanted for us anyway [19:14] social what? :) [19:16] knome: it's referenced in the trusty plan ;) http://pad.ubuntu.com/SdHxBbkLTO [19:16] personally I think we'd be better doing it ourselves in the way we want when we want [19:17] I just want to either have an item to add to blueprint for Noskcaj or to not have one [19:17] elfy, is that integrated to the roadmap wikipage? [19:17] not at present [19:17] ok, no hurries; we can do that sometime before thu's meeting [19:18] knome: hang on - the social thing or the trusty plan ? [19:18] elfy, the outline of the trusty QA plan [19:18] elfy, we will create more specific blueprints later, which should then have all the details / work items [19:18] there is a barebones outline there [19:19] yeah, i've noticed that; linking the QA pad wouldn't hurt i'd say [19:19] was doing that :) [19:20] but I'll get at that page prior to the meeting as well [19:20] sure [19:20] thanks [22:06] ochosi, slickymaster: I'd be fine with that. I think its interesting that xfce.org uses Greybird and Faenza, but they say only Xfce themes for the docs [22:12] bluesabre: added a comment to bug 1232804, what do you think? [22:12] bug 1232804 in xfwm4 (Ubuntu) "[compositing] improve login greeter -> desktop transition" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1232804 [23:55] brainwash: will test your patch asap [23:55] thanks for looking into this issue [23:58] ochosi: the patch is just a minimal approach, proof of concept [23:58] and you need to rebuild xfwm4 ofc [23:58] yeah, but i use it built from git anyway [23:59] still requires a rebuild :) [23:59] sure sure