[00:00] kubotu: 8ball will ScottK's vote increase or decrease within the next 24 hours? [00:00] * kubotu shakes the magic 8-ball for apachelogger ... no [00:00] kubotu: hello [00:00] 'sup owner? [00:00] u slow mate [00:00] * shadeslayer pets kubotu [00:26] ::workspace-bugs:: [1198509] kscreenlocker_greet does not focus w/ 2 monitors @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1198509 (by Brad Huntting) [01:26] ::workspace-bugs:: [1198509] kscreenlocker_greet does not focus w/ 2 monitors @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1198509 (by Brad Huntting) [05:40] I also am still pondering [06:00] and ponder no more :D [06:08] yay, batter indicator playing up again [06:32] I noticed that P-K-O has the ufw-kde project [06:32] I was just planning on packaging/hacking on this as a maintainer [06:32] is there someone already doing so? [06:48] oooh, updates to 3 things that sucked on saucy, muon, plasma nm and upower. lerts see if it helps :D [07:53] Good morning. [08:10] good morning [08:18] Hey soee, how are you? [08:19] lordievader, hi im good, waiting to eat something :) thank you, and you? [08:21] soee: Doing good, just had breakfast. [08:21] lordievader, , lucky you :) [08:22] soee: :) [09:03] morning [09:03] Good morning shadeslayer [09:34] ScottK: haha http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/10/msg00492.html [09:35] heh [09:36] hello Riddell [09:37] :) [09:37] where can i find [09:38] the daily of 14.04 [09:39] there is none right now [09:40] ok [09:40] and if i download [09:40] the ubuntu 14.04 and put kde [09:41] ? [09:41] shadeslayer [09:41] there are ubuntu 14.04 ISO's? [09:41] yea [09:42] should work I suppose [09:42] pointless to run 14.04 at the moment though? [09:42] idk [09:42] system update [09:42] hehe [09:42] *shrug* [09:42] :P [09:43] I mean I want to land ktp 0.7.0 and kpeople in trusty by the end of this week [09:43] ScottK: Riddell review plz https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly/+files/libkpeople_0.1.0-0ubuntu1%7Eppa2.dsc [09:44] shadeslayer just for testing [09:44] now i try the ubuntu daily iso on usb [09:44] seriously? there's not much to test, and it's kind of pointless to test right now since things *will* change over the next week [09:44] *next couple of weeks [09:45] oh ok [09:45] but go ahead if you have alot of spare time :) [09:45] hehe [09:45] i see [09:45] on iso.qa [09:45] there is a testing section [09:45] but no iso [09:47] cortexA9: Or you can install 13.10 and change the repo's to trusty. That's what I did. [09:47] oh [09:47] yea [09:47] could be a solution eheh [09:48] reboot bye [10:06] hello [10:07] all good [10:07] with the repository 14.04 [10:07] cortexA9: Welcome back ;) [10:07] thanks [10:07] cortexA9: Congratulations :) [10:07] :) [10:07] Lots of change, eh? [10:07] haha [10:07] :D [10:07] 420 updates [10:07] hehe [10:07] from 13.10 :P [10:18] hey lordievader [10:19] Hey ahoneybun, the standing is now 3x+1 and 2x+0! How are you? [10:21] hey ahoneybun [10:34] lordievader, pretty goo [10:34] I think that means I'm a member no? [10:34] ahoneybun: You should ask a KC member, I have no knowledge of this ;) [10:34] * jussi hides [10:34] lol [10:35] jussi still has not voted lol [10:35] ahoneybun: have too! [10:35] oh sorry [10:35] ahoneybun: See mailing list ;) [10:35] ahoneybun: He is the third +1 :) [10:35] ScottK: still needs to end his pondering [10:35] I thought he did [10:36] oh that was jussi [10:36] so valorie Riddell jussi shadeslayer voted [10:37] yep [10:37] ahoneybun: looks like you're in [10:37] and yofel [10:37] yea just not ScottK [10:37] shadeslayer, yea? [10:38] * ahoneybun parties [10:39] yep [10:39] you have 3 +1's [10:39] and 2 +0's [10:39] kubotu: order party for ahoneybun [10:39] * kubotu gives everyone a party hat and a hand full of conffeti. [10:39] * kubotu turns on tha most funky party music as well as the all shiny disco ball. [10:39] ahoneybun: wanna dance with me? :-) [10:39] * kubotu starts shaking her tight ass [10:40] lol [10:40] ahoneybun: Congratulations! [10:40] shadeslayer, I would think I would have needed 4 out of 6 [10:41] quorum is 3 out of 5 I think? [10:41] lordievader, thanks :) [10:41] jussi, thanks [10:41] jussi: ^ can you confirm if quorum has been reached? [10:42] shadeslayer: I think so, but please wait for ScottK's vote just to round it out. [10:42] ahoneybun: ^^ though I think you're in [10:43] * ahoneybun will keep the partying in till ScottK has voted [12:04] Voted. [12:05] Quintasan: https://github.com/shadeslayer/kubuntu-extra-tools [12:05] Whoo nice: 4-2. Hmm ahoneybun left... [12:06] Actually it's 4-0-0. -1 has a different effect than +0. If I'd done -1 he wouldn't have got it. [12:06] ^^ [12:08] I see. Haven't said a thing ;) [12:20] yofel: will regular neon continue building for raring? [12:20] I am looking into moving kf5 to saucy+trusty and drop raring [12:24] hi there .... I think I found a bug in the kubuntu / ubuntu kernel but I need to have a chat to confirm before logging. [12:24] apachelogger: can you upload qt5 for trusty? It's repeatedly failing for me. [12:25] as for raring, I usually keep that running for a month after release and then disable it. ~a week later I purge the packages [12:29] anyway, there seems to be some problem with setting the frequency of some Core 2 Xtreme CPUs .... [12:30] so I recompiled the kernel without intel_pstate support and everything else as module using the classic debian system [12:31] and modprobing each module one by one and then debugging .... it turns out that p4_clockmod is loading, but return wrong frequency reading (as it should) and recommends acpi-cpufreq [12:32] but acpi-cpufreq does nto actaully load, because one of the checks says that the CPU is not supported (which is incorrect). I think the bug may be in the acpi-cpufreq module. [12:34] cer: #ubuntu-kernel might be a better place? [12:34] shadeslayer: thanks! [12:50] So ahoneybun made it? [12:51] yep [13:21] who wants an account on the new Kubuntu Gossip blog? [13:21] would be cool to have lots of kubuntu members with access to just post any interesting stuff they find from the internet [13:21] http://gossip.kubuntu.org/wordpress/ [13:21] gossip.... :/ [13:21] you didn't come up with any better name :) [13:22] I mustve missed the discussion :/ [13:22] at least we should have come up with something "hip" like "The Wrap" thewrap.kubuntu.org [13:23] there's still time to change it if you want [13:23] I would much prefer something like that, give me 15 mins to think about it [13:23] We are aiming for an OMGubuntu type site? [13:24] Kubuntu Wire wire.kubuntu.org [13:24] jussi: yeah I think that's the idea [13:24] (just throwing what comes into my head here, see if something resonates) [13:25] actually it's starbuck1 you'd need to persuade, he set it up with theme and all [13:25] Kubuntu Fire fire.kubuntu.org [13:25] Riddell: what needs to be done to actually add aaron to the members? Add him to the LP team and send welcome mail to ML? [13:25] starbuck1: ping [13:25] yofel: pretty much, remember to CC mark and the CC [13:26] ack [13:27] Kubuntu Tingles tingles.kubuntu.irg :D :D [13:27] org [13:28] The Wrap and Kubuntu wire are my favourites so far [13:28] starbuck1: ping me if you think any of this is remotely sane :D [13:30] jussi: anyway are you interested in having an account? [13:31] Riddell: yeah, if it isnt called gossip [13:32] oh come on peoples, still 4 shirts left... one more and I dont have to ask Riddell for any money! [13:39] Riddell: gossip vs. planet? [13:39] jussi: How much are the hoodies? [13:39] as usual I am confused :P [13:40] genii: I dunno, havent done the research yet. (and we need to sell all the polo's first) [13:40] Hm. [13:41] genii: I cant imagine them being crazy expensive, but they will be more than the polo's [13:44] jussi: with all these demands must be careful not to get too many options, last thing we want is stock which doesn't sell [13:45] apachelogger: what are you confused by? [13:45] good welcome message yofel [13:45] I took some inspiration from the past :P [13:46] Riddell: yes, hence one thing at a time, when it is sold out, then we get somethign different [13:47] then, by the time we get back to polo's, the people that bought them last time will need new ones [13:47] Riddell: what is the mission of gossip? [13:49] apachelogger: to gossip... duh!!! :P [13:50] but gossip happens on the socialweb.... [13:52] apachelogger: to post any news about kubuntu, I'm thinking just repost most stuff that comes in from google news alerts on kubuntu [13:53] sounds like a hassle, but ok [13:53] Riddell: that should be written down somewhere [13:53] jussi: Don't know if you got my pm ... but I could take a polo then if I can pay by Visa or else wire by Western Union. But needs to include the shipping to Toronto [13:53] apachelogger: it's an experiment [13:53] ultimately on gossip.k :P [13:53] cuz you go there and ubuntu foo comes up, kinda confusing I must say :P [13:54] genii: visa works, link is in the topic, go order! :D === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 4.11.2 notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | bugs http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | Shirts! https://holvi.com/shop/Kubuntu/ | Mumble Call http://doodle.com/hapst5krwg6pp6gd [13:55] Ooooh. /topic here rarely changes so I don't always bother looking at it! [13:55] topicdiff? [13:56] jussi: I will place the order Thursday ( payday! ) [13:57] jussi: so the warning regarding the old protocol version is just a warning [13:57] it'll still work [13:57] genii: no probs. I worry though that your size wont be there anymore... [13:57] There are still 3 Small :) [13:57] genii: only s and m left [13:58] ok, so you are a small. great! [13:58] :D [13:58] (and yes, I meant the pun,..=) [13:58] IMO topics should only ever have one thing btw [13:58] not everyone needs to know how much wine you drink .... [13:59] of course all of freenode disagrees with me on that, but disagreeing with apachelogger tends to proof that apachelogger is right [13:59] because no one ever reads channel topics [13:59] why is that... because they are abused as peristent codification [14:00] like in this fine channel here we have the trello url, while probably useful that is not changing or moving around, so I saw it once I don't need to see it again [14:00] and since most of the topic is seen most of the topic becomes irrelevant which is why people don't read topics [14:15] hm [14:15] upate notification [14:15] wants to do do-release-upgrade [14:53] ooh KDE Telepathy 0.7.0 Released [14:53] Quintasan: fancy getting onto that? [14:55] Riddell: already done [14:55] https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=trusty [14:56] waiting for ktp-text-ui to finish [14:56] then I'll upload to trusty [14:56] Riddell: OTOH if you could review libkpeople packaging, that'd be awesome [14:56] shadeslayer: you rock [14:56] ;) [14:57] shadeslayer: does telepathy use kpeople now? [14:58] Riddell: can the cron job that runs for KDE SC also parse other package build logs? [14:58] Riddell: yep [14:59] shadeslayer: this one? http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-buildstatus/kubuntu-buildstatus.html [15:00] well, the SC one, but can that one tell you if there are missing files? [15:01] * shadeslayer uploads tp-logger-qt [15:02] this one? http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.2_saucy.html [15:02] yep [15:02] can we run that for other packages? [15:03] that one uses lp:~kubuntu-packagers/%2Bjunk/kubuntu-automation [15:03] and it takes packages from kubuntu-ppa [15:03] so yeah it could be adapted for other packages but probably best as a separate setup [15:03] kubuntu-ppa or kubuntu-ninjas [15:04] or we add list-missing functionality to the script from debfx [15:05] shadeslayer: the list missing functionality of the script depends on the list-missing output in dhmk [15:05] that's probably doable, it would need to download the build logs and parse it, and it only works with builds that use pkg-kde-tools but that should be most of what we care about [15:06] other than that, there's not really a hard requirement on the parsed packages. I think it filters by version [15:06] yofel: well I want to parse output of dh_install --list-missing [15:07] so that we can pick up not installed files for packages not using pkg-kde-tools [15:07] well how would you make them run dh_install --list-missing then? [15:07] like I don't think the ktp packages use pkg-kde-tools [15:07] Riddell: it's run by the buildd and the output is in the logs? [15:07] s/--list-missing/--fail-missing/ and you're done ;) [15:07] debfx: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [15:08] debfx: nah, sometimes it uselessly fails, or like in the case of digikam where we actually don't want to install files with dubious copyrights [15:08] shadeslayer: if it's already there then that's half the problem solved [15:09] it is for some packages [15:09] others, dunno [15:09] and you get to see messages like : dh_install: usr/lib/libktpcommoninternalsprivate.so.0.6.3 exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere : in the log which seem parsable [15:10] iirc the script already supports --list-missing [15:11] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation/revision/21 [15:13] is that for http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-buildstatus/kubuntu-buildstatus.html [15:14] shadeslayer: no kubuntu-buildstatus doesn't parse logs at all I think [15:14] aha, so lets add the functionality there? [15:14] go for it :) [15:14] can someone remind me why PSD files preview is gone ? [15:15] aye [15:15] it appears incoming bugs are slowing down \o/ [15:15] more time for stuff, weeh [15:16] clerarly people getting pissed off and not using our product :( [15:16] eh? or people not finding bugs [15:17] plenty of bugs in muon, most of them land upstream though [15:18] ^^ [15:19] shadeslayer: Perhaps Saucy just works ;) [15:19] if only [15:20] like apachelogger said, plenty of bugs in muon [15:21] Riddell: what generates http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-buildstatus/kubuntu-buildstatus.html [15:21] well [15:21] actually discover and muon work just fine, only -installer and -updater have problems [15:22] and as I said some weeks ago IMO it shouldn't be using -updater anyway as it seems more sensible to have an integrated experience from discover [15:22] plus discover can update, so... [15:26] shadeslayer: why do you want list-missing functionality in the archive buildstatus? that's something that can be checked before uploading ... [15:26] shadeslayer: lp:~kubuntu-members/%2Bjunk/qa.kubuntu.co.uk [15:27] debfx: just to make sure? [15:27] humans are unreliable [15:27] shadeslayer: seems to be under ~jr/qa.kubuntu.co.uk on docs.kubuntu.org [15:28] and output to /var/www/qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-buildstatus/ [15:28] then you need an override mechanism that someone maintains [15:29] otherwise you'll end up with lots of orange on the page with packages that don't install files on purpose [15:29] hm, true [15:29] anyway, something to work on [15:30] shadeslayer: should libkpeople1-dbg depend on kdelibs5-dbg ? [15:34] (I'm honestly not sure) [15:34] shadeslayer: otherwise good to upload [15:34] Riddell: d_ed says doesn't need to, but you'll get better backtraces if you do that [15:34] Could make it a suggests I suppose [15:34] recommends would be more useful [15:35] ScottK: yep, still working on bug 1245593 [15:35] bug 1245593 in owncloud (Ubuntu Saucy) "Backport updates to 5.0.12" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1245593 [15:35] it's just that kdelibs5-dbg is so large and apt installs recommends by default ... [15:35] Riddell: note that we will want to update libkpeople for post LTS updates [15:35] libkpeople1-dbg is not installed by default, I'd think if you installed libkpeople1-dbg you'd want kdelibs debug too [15:35] since people are likely to hit bugs [15:36] I suppose ... [15:36] this can't be a new question [15:36] shadeslayer: dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address [15:36] 0.o I thought I fixed that [15:37] Riddell: what version do you have? [15:37] shadeslayer: 0.1.0-0ubuntu1~ppa2 [15:37] Riddell: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/155298103/libkpeople_0.1.0-0ubuntu1~ppa2_0.1.0-0ubuntu1~ppa3.diff.gz [15:37] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly/+files/libkpeople_0.1.0-0ubuntu1%7Eppa3.dsc [15:39] Riddell: could you upload it if everything is good? [15:40] E: libkpeople1: description-synopsis-is-duplicated [15:41] clearly an error :) [15:42] again, should be fixed [15:43] shadeslayer: uploaded! [15:43] " Library providing metacontacts infrastructure based on Nepomuk [15:43] . [15:43] This library allows you to read meta data and initiate [15:43] various actions for a contact. [15:43] " [15:43] different from the one line thing [15:43] s/thing/description/ [15:43] shadeslayer meant: "different from the one line description" [15:43] Riddell: thx [16:24] Riddell: ktp uploaded, waiting on kpeople approval [16:25] Riddell: otoh vHanda says that soprano-dbg and nepomuk-dbg should also be added to libkpeople-dbg recommends [16:25] shadeslayer: well you can add them if you think appropriate :) [16:26] I can't upload the source :) [16:27] shadeslayer: sorry libkpeople rejected [16:27] harsh these archive admins [16:27] heh [16:27] did they say why ? :P [16:28] or just grumbly [16:28] cmake/ not included in copyright [16:28] oh [16:43] Riddell: are you fixing that? [16:43] or should I? [16:44] but then I don't have your changes for debian/control [16:57] shadeslayer: I didn't make any changes [16:57] shadeslayer: go ahead [16:58] (if I did it I couldn't do the New review) [16:58] okay [16:59] Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/p0f1a219a [16:59] review plz [17:00] shadeslayer: lovely [17:02] Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/kpeople/libkpeople_0.1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc [17:06] shadeslayer: you could also tell upstream to fix the location of cmake/modules/COPYING-CMAKE-SCRIPTS [17:06] uploaded! [17:06] thx [17:06] will do [17:09] shadeslayer: accepted! [17:09] cool [17:25] shadeslayer: accepted! [17:25] yay [17:28] cor lots of people interested in the kickoff meeting http://doodle.com/hapst5krwg6pp6gd [17:28] but no ideal time [17:28] wed 8pm and mon 8pm about the best ones [17:29] but no shadeslayer at either :( [17:29] are you sure [17:29] and we'd have to pick between ScottK and ahoney [17:29] and no smartboy alas, past his bedtime I guess [17:30] no apachelogger? [17:31] yofel: is your mumble still running? [17:31] or is that too faffy? [17:33] the one I quickly set up last time should still be running, I didn't touch it [17:33] yes it is [17:33] I don't know who Radu Crisan is but he can't make any time! [17:34] let's say tomorrow at 8pm then and we can have another one if we need it on monday === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 4.11.2 notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | bugs http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | Shirts! https://holvi.com/shop/Kubuntu/ | Mumble Call Wed 20:00UTC on mumble yofel-vz.dyndns.org [17:56] :( [17:56] 20:00 UTC totally doesn't work for me if I want to keep a sane work schedule [18:28] Meh, the Ubuntu polo shirts £15.99 and the Kubuntu polo shirts are £25.00 .. but I'd rather the £9.00 goes to you guys anyhow. [18:29] genii: probably because the ubuntu ones are mass produced [18:30] Riddell: libktpcommoninternalsprivate6 in bin new [18:34] shadeslayer: Yes, good point. I notice they have all the Kubuntu stuff now in the "Sale Item" Section now too :-/ [19:24] ::qt-bugs:: [1200523] Some of the kubuntu patches break plasma @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1200523 (by karaluh) === apol__ is now known as apol [19:45] hi, I just installed a kubuntu iso on a virtualbox and every time I install something I get that the sources are not authenticated [19:45] even for gcc and such basic stuff [19:45] is that normal? [19:47] certainly not === jono is now known as Guest23572 === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [19:56] anyone testing mumble right now> [20:08] hey Riddell [20:16] genii: do the ubuntu ones include postage? [20:17] yofel, I wanted to see if mumble was working for me [20:18] ahoneybun: give me a sec [20:18] ok [20:18] I also want to see if the server is working right, last time that wasn't really the case [20:18] yea [20:22] ahoneybun: please connect to kyofel.dyndns.org [20:23] ok [20:24] meh, I'll send a mail to use that host [20:24] and I'll kill the other murmurd instance [20:24] that's just broken [20:28] jussi: I can't tell. I get all the way to "Check Out" and it doesn't ask me yet where to ship and the price up until then is the same. [21:35] shadeslayer: [21:35] ffs [21:36] this will get overwritten by the sync I believe [21:36] * Quintasan is sick [21:43] Quintasan: ??? [21:44] Quintasan: we can sync once Debian is up-to-date [21:44] till then I'd like Saucy and Trusty packages [21:44] I am already collaborating with detrout [21:44] so that we can eliminate delta [21:45] * shadeslayer goes back to not IRC'ing [21:48] hi...I want to use secrets (login info) so I need to use gnome keyring as well as kwallet....is there an integration of both libraries [21:48] ? [22:25] m_tadeu: secrets? [22:26] shadeslayer: accepted! [22:26] Riddell: login info, like passwords...I've been searching and now I found this ksecretservice....does anyone know the status of that?