[00:00] <apachelogger> kubotu: 8ball will ScottK's vote increase or decrease within the next 24 hours?
[00:00]  * kubotu shakes the magic 8-ball for apachelogger ... no
[00:00] <apachelogger> kubotu: hello
[00:00] <kubotu> 'sup owner?
[00:00] <apachelogger> u slow mate
[00:00]  * shadeslayer pets kubotu
[00:26] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1198509] kscreenlocker_greet does not focus w/ 2 monitors @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1198509 (by Brad Huntting)
[01:26] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1198509] kscreenlocker_greet does not focus w/ 2 monitors @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1198509 (by Brad Huntting)
[05:40] <jussi> I also am still pondering
[06:00] <jussi> and ponder no more :D
[06:08] <jussi> yay, batter indicator playing up again
[06:32] <jalcine> I noticed that P-K-O has the ufw-kde project
[06:32] <jalcine> I was just planning on packaging/hacking on this as a maintainer
[06:32] <jalcine> is there someone already doing so?
[06:48] <jussi> oooh, updates to 3 things that sucked on saucy, muon, plasma nm and upower. lerts see if it helps :D
[07:53] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:10] <soee> good morning
[08:18] <lordievader> Hey soee, how are you?
[08:19] <soee> lordievader, hi im good, waiting to eat something :) thank you, and you?
[08:21] <lordievader> soee: Doing good, just had breakfast.
[08:21] <soee> lordievader, , lucky you :)
[08:22] <lordievader> soee: :)
[09:03] <shadeslayer> morning
[09:03] <lordievader> Good morning shadeslayer 
[09:34] <shadeslayer> ScottK: haha http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/10/msg00492.html
[09:35] <yofel> heh
[09:36] <cortexA9> hello Riddell
[09:37] <cortexA9> :)
[09:37] <cortexA9> where can i find
[09:38] <cortexA9> the daily of 14.04
[09:39] <shadeslayer> there is none right now
[09:40] <cortexA9> ok
[09:40] <cortexA9> and if i download
[09:40] <cortexA9> the ubuntu 14.04 and put kde
[09:41] <cortexA9> ?
[09:41] <cortexA9> shadeslayer
[09:41] <shadeslayer> there are ubuntu 14.04 ISO's?
[09:41] <cortexA9> yea
[09:42] <shadeslayer> should work I suppose
[09:42] <shadeslayer> pointless to run 14.04 at the moment though?
[09:42] <cortexA9> idk
[09:42] <cortexA9> system update
[09:42] <cortexA9> hehe
[09:42] <shadeslayer> *shrug*
[09:42] <cortexA9> :P
[09:43] <shadeslayer> I mean I want to land ktp 0.7.0 and kpeople in trusty by the end of this week
[09:43] <shadeslayer> ScottK: Riddell review plz https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly/+files/libkpeople_0.1.0-0ubuntu1%7Eppa2.dsc
[09:44] <cortexA9> shadeslayer just for testing
[09:44] <cortexA9> now i try the ubuntu daily iso on usb
[09:44] <shadeslayer> seriously? there's not much to test, and it's kind of pointless to test right now since things *will* change over the next week
[09:44] <shadeslayer> *next couple of weeks
[09:45] <cortexA9> oh ok
[09:45] <shadeslayer> but go ahead if you have alot of spare time :)
[09:45] <cortexA9> hehe
[09:45] <cortexA9> i see
[09:45] <cortexA9> on iso.qa
[09:45] <cortexA9> there is a testing section
[09:45] <cortexA9> but no iso
[09:47] <lordievader> cortexA9: Or you can install 13.10 and change the repo's to trusty. That's what I did.
[09:47] <cortexA9> oh
[09:47] <cortexA9> yea
[09:47] <cortexA9> could be a solution eheh
[09:48] <cortexA9> reboot bye
[10:06] <cortexA9> hello
[10:07] <cortexA9> all good
[10:07] <cortexA9> with the repository 14.04
[10:07] <lordievader> cortexA9: Welcome back ;)
[10:07] <cortexA9> thanks
[10:07] <lordievader> cortexA9: Congratulations :)
[10:07] <cortexA9> :)
[10:07] <lordievader> Lots of change, eh?
[10:07] <cortexA9> haha
[10:07] <cortexA9> :D
[10:07] <cortexA9> 420 updates
[10:07] <cortexA9> hehe
[10:07] <cortexA9> from 13.10 :P
[10:18] <ahoneybun> hey lordievader 
[10:19] <lordievader> Hey ahoneybun, the standing is now 3x+1 and 2x+0! How are you?
[10:21] <cortexA9> hey ahoneybun
[10:34] <ahoneybun> lordievader, pretty goo
[10:34] <ahoneybun> I think that means I'm a member no?
[10:34] <lordievader> ahoneybun: You should ask a KC member, I have no knowledge of this ;)
[10:34]  * jussi hides
[10:34] <ahoneybun> lol
[10:35] <ahoneybun> jussi still has not voted lol
[10:35] <jussi> ahoneybun: have too!
[10:35] <ahoneybun> oh sorry
[10:35] <lordievader> ahoneybun: See mailing list ;)
[10:35] <lordievader> ahoneybun: He is the third +1 :)
[10:35] <jussi> ScottK: still needs to end his pondering
[10:35] <ahoneybun> I thought he did
[10:36] <ahoneybun> oh that was jussi
[10:36] <ahoneybun> so valorie Riddell jussi shadeslayer voted
[10:37] <shadeslayer> yep
[10:37] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: looks like you're in
[10:37] <jussi> and yofel
[10:37] <ahoneybun> yea just not ScottK 
[10:37] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer, yea?
[10:38]  * ahoneybun parties
[10:39] <shadeslayer> yep
[10:39] <shadeslayer> you have 3 +1's
[10:39] <shadeslayer> and 2 +0's
[10:39] <shadeslayer> kubotu: order party for ahoneybun
[10:39]  * kubotu gives everyone a party hat and a hand full of conffeti.
[10:39]  * kubotu turns on tha most funky party music as well as the all shiny disco ball.
[10:39] <kubotu> ahoneybun: wanna dance with me? :-)
[10:39]  * kubotu starts shaking her tight ass
[10:40] <ahoneybun> lol
[10:40] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Congratulations!
[10:40] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer, I would think I would have needed 4 out of 6
[10:41] <shadeslayer> quorum is 3 out of 5 I think?
[10:41] <ahoneybun> lordievader, thanks :)
[10:41] <ahoneybun> jussi, thanks 
[10:41] <shadeslayer> jussi: ^ can you confirm if quorum has been reached?
[10:42] <jussi> shadeslayer: I think so, but please wait for ScottK's vote just to round it out. 
[10:42] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: ^^ though I think you're in
[10:43]  * ahoneybun will keep the partying in till ScottK has voted
[12:04] <ScottK> Voted.
[12:05] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: https://github.com/shadeslayer/kubuntu-extra-tools
[12:05] <lordievader> Whoo nice: 4-2. Hmm ahoneybun left...
[12:06] <ScottK> Actually it's 4-0-0.  -1 has a different effect than +0.  If I'd done -1 he wouldn't have got it.
[12:06] <shadeslayer> ^^
[12:08] <lordievader> I see. Haven't said a thing ;)
[12:20] <apachelogger> yofel: will regular neon continue building for raring?
[12:20] <apachelogger> I am looking into moving kf5 to saucy+trusty and drop raring
[12:24] <cer> hi there .... I think I found a bug in the kubuntu / ubuntu kernel but I need to have a chat to confirm before logging.
[12:24] <yofel> apachelogger: can you upload qt5 for trusty? It's repeatedly failing for me.
[12:25] <yofel> as for raring, I usually keep that running for a month after release and then disable it. ~a week later I purge the packages
[12:29] <cer> anyway, there seems to be some problem with setting the frequency of some Core 2 Xtreme CPUs .... 
[12:30] <cer> so I recompiled the kernel without intel_pstate support and everything else as module using the classic debian system
[12:31] <cer> and modprobing each module one by one and then debugging .... it turns out that p4_clockmod is loading, but return wrong frequency reading (as it should) and recommends acpi-cpufreq
[12:32] <cer> but acpi-cpufreq does nto actaully load, because one of the checks says that the CPU is not supported (which is incorrect). I think the bug may be in the acpi-cpufreq module.
[12:34] <shadeslayer> cer: #ubuntu-kernel might be a better place?
[12:34] <cer> shadeslayer: thanks!
[12:50] <Quintasan> So ahoneybun made it?
[12:51] <shadeslayer> yep
[13:21] <Riddell> who wants an account on the new Kubuntu Gossip blog?
[13:21] <Riddell> would be cool to have lots of kubuntu members with access to just post any interesting stuff they find from the internet
[13:21] <Riddell> http://gossip.kubuntu.org/wordpress/
[13:21] <jussi> gossip.... :/
[13:21] <Riddell> you didn't come up with any better name :)
[13:22] <jussi> I mustve missed the discussion :/
[13:22] <jussi> at least we should have come up with something "hip" like "The Wrap" thewrap.kubuntu.org
[13:23] <Riddell> there's still time to change it if you want
[13:23] <jussi> I would much prefer something like that, give me 15 mins to think about it
[13:23] <jussi> We are aiming for an OMGubuntu type site? 
[13:24] <jussi> Kubuntu Wire wire.kubuntu.org
[13:24] <Riddell> jussi: yeah I think that's the idea
[13:24] <jussi> (just throwing what comes into my head here, see if something resonates)
[13:25] <Riddell> actually it's starbuck1 you'd need to persuade, he set it up with theme and all
[13:25] <jussi> Kubuntu Fire fire.kubuntu.org
[13:25] <yofel> Riddell: what needs to be done to actually add aaron to the members? Add him to the LP team and send welcome mail to ML?
[13:25] <jussi> starbuck1: ping
[13:25] <jussi> yofel: pretty much, remember to CC mark and the CC
[13:26] <yofel> ack
[13:27] <jussi> Kubuntu Tingles tingles.kubuntu.irg :D :D
[13:27] <jussi> org
[13:28] <jussi> The Wrap and  Kubuntu wire are my favourites so far
[13:28] <jussi> starbuck1: ping me if you think any of this is remotely sane :D
[13:30] <Riddell> jussi: anyway are you interested in having an account?
[13:31] <jussi> Riddell: yeah, if it isnt called gossip
[13:32] <jussi> oh come on peoples, still 4 shirts left... one more and I dont have to ask Riddell for any money!
[13:39] <apachelogger> Riddell: gossip vs. planet?
[13:39] <genii> jussi: How much are the hoodies?
[13:39] <apachelogger> as usual I am confused :P
[13:40] <jussi> genii: I dunno, havent done the research yet. (and we need to sell all the polo's first)
[13:40] <genii> Hm.
[13:41] <jussi> genii: I cant imagine them being crazy expensive, but they will be more than the polo's
[13:44] <Riddell> jussi: with all these demands must be careful not to get too many options, last thing we want is stock which doesn't sell
[13:45] <Riddell> apachelogger: what are you confused by?
[13:45] <Riddell> good welcome message yofel 
[13:45] <yofel> I took some inspiration from the past :P
[13:46] <jussi> Riddell: yes, hence one thing at a time, when it is sold out, then we get somethign different
[13:47] <jussi> then, by the time we get back to polo's, the people that bought them last time will need new ones
[13:47] <apachelogger> Riddell: what is the mission of gossip?
[13:49] <jussi> apachelogger: to gossip... duh!!! :P
[13:50] <apachelogger> but gossip happens on the socialweb....
[13:52] <Riddell> apachelogger: to post any news about kubuntu, I'm thinking just repost most stuff that comes in from google news alerts on kubuntu
[13:53] <apachelogger> sounds like a hassle, but ok
[13:53] <apachelogger> Riddell: that should be written down somewhere
[13:53] <genii> jussi: Don't know if you got my pm ... but I could take a polo then if I can pay by Visa or else wire by Western Union. But needs to include the shipping to Toronto
[13:53] <Riddell> apachelogger: it's an experiment
[13:53] <apachelogger> ultimately on gossip.k :P
[13:53] <apachelogger> cuz you go there and ubuntu foo comes up, kinda confusing I must say :P
[13:54] <jussi> genii: visa works, link is in the topic, go order! :D
[13:55] <genii> Ooooh. /topic here rarely changes so I don't always bother looking at it!
[13:55] <yofel> topicdiff?
[13:56] <genii> jussi: I will place the order Thursday ( payday! )
[13:57] <shadeslayer> jussi: so the warning regarding the old protocol version is just a warning
[13:57] <shadeslayer> it'll still work
[13:57] <jussi> genii: no probs. I worry though that your size wont be there anymore... 
[13:57] <genii> There are still 3 Small :)
[13:57] <jussi> genii: only s and m left
[13:58] <jussi> ok, so you are a small. great!
[13:58] <jussi> :D
[13:58] <jussi> (and yes, I meant the pun,..=)
[13:58] <apachelogger> IMO topics should only ever have one thing btw
[13:58] <shadeslayer> not everyone needs to know how much wine you drink ....
[13:59] <apachelogger> of course all of freenode disagrees with me on that, but disagreeing with apachelogger tends to proof that apachelogger is right
[13:59] <apachelogger> because no one ever reads channel topics
[13:59] <apachelogger> why is that... because they are abused as peristent codification
[14:00] <apachelogger> like in this fine channel here we have the trello url, while probably useful that is not changing or moving around, so I saw it once I don't need to see it again
[14:00] <apachelogger> and since most of the topic is seen most of the topic becomes irrelevant which is why people don't read topics
[14:15] <apachelogger> hm
[14:15] <apachelogger> upate notification
[14:15] <apachelogger> wants to do do-release-upgrade
[14:53] <Riddell> ooh KDE Telepathy 0.7.0 Released
[14:53] <Riddell> Quintasan: fancy getting onto that?
[14:55] <shadeslayer> Riddell: already done
[14:55] <shadeslayer> https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=trusty
[14:56] <shadeslayer> waiting for ktp-text-ui to finish
[14:56] <shadeslayer> then I'll upload to trusty
[14:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: OTOH if you could review libkpeople packaging, that'd be awesome
[14:56] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you rock
[14:56] <shadeslayer> ;)
[14:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer: does telepathy use kpeople now?
[14:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can the cron job that runs for KDE SC also parse other package build logs?
[14:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yep
[14:59] <Riddell> shadeslayer: this one? http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-buildstatus/kubuntu-buildstatus.html
[15:00] <shadeslayer> well, the SC one, but can that one tell you if there are missing files?
[15:01]  * shadeslayer uploads tp-logger-qt
[15:02] <Riddell> this one? http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.2_saucy.html
[15:02] <shadeslayer> yep
[15:02] <shadeslayer> can we run that for other packages?
[15:03] <Riddell> that one uses lp:~kubuntu-packagers/%2Bjunk/kubuntu-automation
[15:03] <Riddell> and it takes packages from kubuntu-ppa
[15:03] <Riddell> so yeah it could be adapted for other packages but probably best as a separate setup
[15:03] <Riddell> kubuntu-ppa or kubuntu-ninjas
[15:04] <shadeslayer> or we add list-missing functionality to the script from debfx
[15:05] <yofel> shadeslayer: the list missing functionality of the script depends on the list-missing output in dhmk
[15:05] <Riddell> that's probably doable, it would need to download the build logs and parse it, and it only works with builds that use pkg-kde-tools but that should be most of what we care about
[15:06] <yofel> other than that, there's not really a hard requirement on the parsed packages. I think it filters by version
[15:06] <shadeslayer> yofel: well I want to parse output of dh_install --list-missing
[15:07] <shadeslayer> so that we can pick up not installed files for packages not using pkg-kde-tools
[15:07] <Riddell> well how would you make them run dh_install --list-missing then?
[15:07] <shadeslayer> like I don't think the ktp packages use pkg-kde-tools
[15:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: it's run by the buildd and the output is in the logs?
[15:07] <debfx> s/--list-missing/--fail-missing/ and you're done ;)
[15:07] <kubotu> debfx: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[15:08] <shadeslayer> debfx: nah, sometimes it uselessly fails, or like in the case of digikam where we actually don't want to install files with dubious copyrights
[15:08] <Riddell> shadeslayer: if it's already there then that's half the problem solved
[15:09] <shadeslayer> it is for some packages
[15:09] <shadeslayer> others, dunno
[15:09] <shadeslayer> and you get to see messages like : dh_install: usr/lib/libktpcommoninternalsprivate.so.0.6.3 exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere : in the log which seem parsable
[15:10] <debfx> iirc the script already supports --list-missing
[15:11] <debfx> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation/revision/21
[15:13] <shadeslayer> is that for http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-buildstatus/kubuntu-buildstatus.html
[15:14] <Riddell> shadeslayer: no kubuntu-buildstatus doesn't parse logs at all I think
[15:14] <shadeslayer> aha, so lets add the functionality there?
[15:14] <Riddell> go for it :)
[15:14] <soee> can someone remind me why PSD files preview is gone ?
[15:15] <shadeslayer> aye
[15:15] <apachelogger> it appears incoming bugs are slowing down \o/
[15:15] <apachelogger> more time for stuff, weeh
[15:16] <shadeslayer> clerarly people getting pissed off and not using our product :(
[15:16] <Riddell> eh? or people not finding bugs
[15:17] <apachelogger> plenty of bugs in muon, most of them land upstream though
[15:18] <shadeslayer> ^^
[15:19] <lordievader> shadeslayer: Perhaps Saucy just works ;)
[15:19] <shadeslayer> if only
[15:20] <shadeslayer> like apachelogger said, plenty of bugs in muon
[15:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what generates http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-buildstatus/kubuntu-buildstatus.html
[15:21] <apachelogger> well
[15:21] <apachelogger> actually discover and muon work just fine, only -installer and -updater have problems
[15:22] <apachelogger> and as I said some weeks ago IMO it shouldn't be using -updater anyway as it seems more sensible to have an integrated experience from discover
[15:22] <apachelogger> plus discover can update, so...
[15:26] <debfx> shadeslayer: why do you want list-missing functionality in the archive buildstatus? that's something that can be checked before uploading ...
[15:26] <Riddell> shadeslayer: lp:~kubuntu-members/%2Bjunk/qa.kubuntu.co.uk
[15:27] <shadeslayer> debfx: just to make sure?
[15:27] <shadeslayer> humans are unreliable
[15:27] <Riddell> shadeslayer: seems to be under ~jr/qa.kubuntu.co.uk on docs.kubuntu.org
[15:28] <Riddell> and output to /var/www/qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-buildstatus/
[15:28] <debfx> then you need an override mechanism that someone maintains
[15:29] <debfx> otherwise you'll end up with lots of orange on the page with packages that don't install files on purpose
[15:29] <shadeslayer> hm, true
[15:29] <shadeslayer> anyway, something to work on
[15:30] <Riddell> shadeslayer: should libkpeople1-dbg depend on kdelibs5-dbg ?
[15:34] <Riddell> (I'm honestly not sure)
[15:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: otherwise good to upload
[15:34] <shadeslayer> Riddell: d_ed says doesn't need to, but you'll get better backtraces if you do that
[15:34] <shadeslayer> Could make it a suggests I suppose
[15:34] <Riddell> recommends would be more useful
[15:35] <Riddell> ScottK: yep, still working on bug 1245593
[15:35] <shadeslayer> it's just that kdelibs5-dbg is so large and apt installs recommends by default ...
[15:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: note that we will want to update libkpeople for post LTS updates
[15:35] <Riddell> libkpeople1-dbg is not installed by default, I'd think if you installed libkpeople1-dbg you'd want kdelibs debug too
[15:35] <shadeslayer> since people are likely to hit bugs
[15:36] <shadeslayer> I suppose ...
[15:36] <Riddell> this can't be a new question
[15:36] <Riddell> shadeslayer: dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address
[15:36] <shadeslayer> 0.o I thought I fixed that
[15:37] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what version do you have?
[15:37] <Riddell> shadeslayer: 0.1.0-0ubuntu1~ppa2
[15:37] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/155298103/libkpeople_0.1.0-0ubuntu1~ppa2_0.1.0-0ubuntu1~ppa3.diff.gz
[15:37] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly/+files/libkpeople_0.1.0-0ubuntu1%7Eppa3.dsc
[15:39] <shadeslayer> Riddell: could you upload it if everything is good?
[15:40] <Riddell> E: libkpeople1: description-synopsis-is-duplicated
[15:41] <Riddell> clearly an error :)
[15:42] <shadeslayer> again, should be fixed
[15:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: uploaded!
[15:43] <shadeslayer> " Library providing metacontacts infrastructure based on Nepomuk
[15:43] <shadeslayer>  .
[15:43] <shadeslayer>  This library allows you to read meta data and initiate
[15:43] <shadeslayer>  various actions for a contact.
[15:43] <shadeslayer> "
[15:43] <shadeslayer> different from the one line thing
[15:43] <shadeslayer> s/thing/description/
[15:43] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "different from the one line description"
[15:43] <shadeslayer> Riddell: thx
[16:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ktp uploaded, waiting on kpeople approval
[16:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: otoh vHanda says that soprano-dbg and nepomuk-dbg should also be added to libkpeople-dbg recommends
[16:25] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well you can add them if you think appropriate :)
[16:26] <shadeslayer> I can't upload the source :)
[16:27] <Riddell> shadeslayer: sorry libkpeople rejected
[16:27] <Riddell> harsh these archive admins
[16:27] <shadeslayer> heh
[16:27] <shadeslayer> did they say why ? :P
[16:28] <shadeslayer> or just grumbly
[16:28] <Riddell> cmake/ not included in copyright
[16:28] <shadeslayer> oh
[16:43] <shadeslayer> Riddell: are you fixing that?
[16:43] <shadeslayer> or should I?
[16:44] <shadeslayer> but then I don't have your changes for debian/control
[16:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I didn't make any changes
[16:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer: go ahead
[16:58] <Riddell> (if I did it I couldn't do the New review)
[16:58] <shadeslayer> okay
[16:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/p0f1a219a
[16:59] <shadeslayer> review plz
[17:00] <Riddell> shadeslayer: lovely
[17:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/kpeople/libkpeople_0.1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc
[17:06] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you could also tell upstream to fix the location of cmake/modules/COPYING-CMAKE-SCRIPTS
[17:06] <Riddell> uploaded!
[17:06] <shadeslayer> thx
[17:06] <shadeslayer> will do
[17:09] <Riddell> shadeslayer: accepted!
[17:09] <shadeslayer> cool
[17:25] <Riddell> shadeslayer: accepted!
[17:25] <shadeslayer> yay
[17:28] <Riddell> cor lots of people interested in the kickoff meeting http://doodle.com/hapst5krwg6pp6gd
[17:28] <Riddell> but no ideal time
[17:28] <Riddell> wed 8pm and mon 8pm about the best ones
[17:29] <Riddell> but no shadeslayer at either :(
[17:29] <shadeslayer> are you sure
[17:29] <Riddell> and we'd have to pick between ScottK and ahoney
[17:29] <Riddell> and no smartboy alas, past his bedtime I guess
[17:30] <Riddell> no apachelogger?
[17:31] <Riddell> yofel: is your mumble still running?
[17:31] <Riddell> or is that too faffy?
[17:33] <yofel> the one I quickly set up last time should still be running, I didn't touch it
[17:33] <Riddell> yes it is
[17:33] <Riddell> I don't know who Radu Crisan is but he can't make any time!
[17:34] <Riddell> let's say tomorrow at 8pm then and we can have another one if we need it on monday
[17:56] <shadeslayer> :(
[17:56] <shadeslayer> 20:00 UTC totally doesn't work for me if I want to keep a sane work schedule
[18:28] <genii> Meh, the Ubuntu polo shirts   £15.99   and the Kubuntu polo shirts are   £25.00    .. but I'd rather the   £9.00 goes to you guys anyhow.
[18:29] <shadeslayer> genii: probably because the ubuntu ones are mass produced
[18:30] <shadeslayer> Riddell: libktpcommoninternalsprivate6 in bin new
[18:34] <genii> shadeslayer: Yes, good point. I notice they have all the Kubuntu stuff now in the "Sale Item" Section now too :-/
[19:24] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1200523] Some of the kubuntu patches break plasma @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1200523 (by karaluh)
[19:45] <apol> hi, I just installed a kubuntu iso on a virtualbox and every time I install something I get that the sources are not authenticated
[19:45] <apol> even for gcc and such basic stuff
[19:45] <apol> is that normal?
[19:47] <debfx> certainly not
[19:56] <ahoneybun> anyone testing mumble right now>
[20:08] <ahoneybun> hey Riddell 
[20:16] <jussi> genii: do the ubuntu ones include postage?
[20:17] <ahoneybun> yofel, I wanted to see if mumble was working for me
[20:18] <yofel> ahoneybun: give me a sec
[20:18] <ahoneybun> ok
[20:18] <yofel> I also want to see if the server is working right, last time that wasn't really the case
[20:18] <ahoneybun> yea
[20:22] <yofel> ahoneybun: please connect to kyofel.dyndns.org
[20:23] <ahoneybun> ok
[20:24] <yofel> meh, I'll send a mail to use that host 
[20:24] <yofel> and I'll kill the other murmurd instance
[20:24] <yofel> that's just broken
[20:28] <genii> jussi: I can't tell. I get all the way to "Check Out" and it doesn't ask me yet where to ship and the price up until then is the same.
[21:35] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: 
[21:35] <Quintasan> ffs
[21:36] <Quintasan> this will get overwritten by the sync I believe
[21:36]  * Quintasan is sick
[21:43] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ???
[21:44] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: we can sync once Debian is up-to-date
[21:44] <shadeslayer> till then I'd like Saucy and Trusty packages
[21:44] <shadeslayer> I am already collaborating with detrout
[21:44] <shadeslayer> so that we can eliminate delta
[21:45]  * shadeslayer goes back to not IRC'ing
[21:48] <m_tadeu> hi...I want to use secrets (login info) so I need to use gnome keyring as well as kwallet....is there an integration of both libraries
[21:48] <m_tadeu> ?
[22:25] <Riddell> m_tadeu: secrets?
[22:26] <Riddell> shadeslayer: accepted!
[22:26] <m_tadeu> Riddell: login info, like passwords...I've been searching and now I found this ksecretservice....does anyone know the status of that?