[06:28] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[07:45] <excognac> hi all
[07:48] <excognac> how do i start to understand why i have no desktop effects?
[07:53] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:53] <lordievader> excognac: That is usually related to a gfx driver.
[07:53] <excognac> ok, so if i cp .kde/share/config/plasma-*, will i have the same desktop sttings?
[07:56] <lordievader> excognac: I'm not sure if the desktop effects are also in there, read the files to know what settings you copy.
[07:58] <excognac> lordievader: thanks bro. Maybe it's better just to fit kubuntu on this machine How do i start to understand what's the matter?
[08:04] <excognac> lordievader: or anybody who'd be kind to help: http://pastebin.kde.org/poxlmbg41
[08:06] <MangaKaDenza> hmm
[08:06] <MangaKaDenza> how do I restart my audio drivers and such
[08:06] <MangaKaDenza> er
[08:06] <MangaKaDenza> audio
[08:18] <lordievader> excognac: Hmm those Intel gfx chips usually work out of the box. Under Desktop Effects -> Advanced -> Compositing Type what have you selected?
[08:21] <excognac> lordievader: i tried both xrender (by default) and set it later on to open GL 3.1, nothing has changed however I haven't rebooted inbeetween
[08:22] <lordievader> excognac: Ok and what effect don't work?
[08:23] <excognac> lordievader: cube animation. i turned off Blure and Fade
[08:23] <lordievader> excognac: Is Slide still on?
[08:24] <excognac> lordievader: in all effects it's turned off
[08:26] <lordievader> excognac: Interesting and the shortcut is working?
[08:28] <excognac> lordievader: sorry which shortcut? changeing between virtual desktops works fine with default Ctrl+F1 or so. Alt+Tab works differntly as set.
[08:29] <lordievader> excognac: I usually set ctrl+alt + arrow-key for switching. Not sure if it is default though. Anyhow using ctrl+f1 does what effect does it use?
[08:30] <excognac> lordievader: switches to destktop 1
[08:30] <lordievader> excognac: Without an effect?
[08:30] <excognac> lordievader: yes.
[08:32] <lordievader> excognac: On the General Tab of Desktop Effects, is Various Animation checked and Effects for desktop switching set to Desktop Cube Animation?
[08:32] <excognac> lordievader: yes they always have been checked. shall i try to reboot?
[08:33] <Addle> Is compositing on? Maybe hit ALT+SHIFT+F12 to toggle it.
[08:33] <lordievader> excognac: Don't see how that will improve things, but go ahead ;)
[08:33] <excognac> lordievader: ok cya soon
[08:33] <lordievader> Ohh that's a good one, Addle
[08:33] <Addle> Thanks :)
[08:35] <Addle> One of my favorite settings: Suspect desktop effects for fullscreen windows.
[08:35] <Addle> *Suspend
[08:36] <excognac> lordievader: nothing has changed. however upon booting at kde splash screen when it comes to desktop icon display goes dark for 2 secs or so
[08:37] <Addle> excognac: Did you miss this message?   Is compositing on? Maybe hit ALT+SHIFT+F12 to toggle it.
[08:37] <Addle> excognac: Worth a shot.
[08:41] <excognac> Addle: lordievader: altshiftf12 didn't help. wtf, after i change Desktop Effects->Advanced->Compositing type and click apply twice, and close Sys Setting it simply changes back
[08:41] <lordievader> Change from what to what?
[08:42] <excognac> lordievader: from xrender to OpenGL2.0 or 3.1
[08:43] <lordievader> excognac: Does OpenGL1.2 work?
[08:44] <excognac> lordievader: nope, same
[08:45] <excognac> lordievader: set, say both cases apply and close settings. then open again and it's again set on xrender
[08:46] <excognac> lordievader: is there anywayx to do it from konsole?
[08:46] <Addle> excognac: Mine is set to OpenGL 2.0, and works. (Qt graphics system set to Raster) and it all works. NVidia GTX560.
[08:47] <excognac> Addle: yeah i set it to raster too. on mylaptop it works fine, i tried to use the same setting buit this is a desktop machine quite stronger) and it's all messed up however I have intel graphics in both
[08:48] <lordievader> excognac: I'm starting to think you are suffering from the same bug I had once, let me see if I can find the details.
[08:49] <Addle> excognac: It works on this very old laptop with a terrible Intel 855GM card, so should be able to work for you. :)
[08:51] <lordievader> excognac: Hmm maybe not, that was about color correction. Does that happen to be on?
[08:52] <excognac> lordievader: nope, it's off
[08:53] <excognac> lordievader: lololol now totally messed up: it's on openGl 1.2 i try to set to 3.1 and it jumps to xrender insted
[08:54] <lordievader> excognac: You can set it through the terminal ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[08:54] <excognac> lordievader: how?
[08:54] <lordievader> excognac: Editing the config file ;)
[08:56] <lordievader> excognac: This is what I got in there, I'm also running an Intel chip (older than yours though): http://paste.ubuntu.com/6322947/
[08:58] <excognac> lordievader: ok, where do i paste this?
[08:58] <lordievader> excognac: It is only ment as an example. You shouldn't copy this somewhere.
[09:06] <excognac> lordievader: shall i edit it with sudo nano ...?
[09:06] <Addle> excognac: It's in your home, so shouldn't need sudo. Just nano should be fine.
[09:06] <Addle> excognac: I do suspect the XRender that keeps popping up is the issue.
[09:07] <lordievader> As Addle says. However it is odd that OpenGL woudn't work on an Intel chip..
[09:09] <Addle> excognac: I think you should be able to force it if you have in [Compositing]: Backend=OpenGL
[09:11] <Addle> excognac: Possibly make sure GraphicsSystem=raster as well.
[09:13] <excognac> Addle: ok, one sec i'm on the job soon.
[09:19] <Addle> excognac: If not, this might do it, and give you some potentially useful output: KWIN_COMPOSE=O2 kwin --graphicssystem raster --replace &
[09:19] <Addle> excognac: Which is from here: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=109963
[09:32] <Addle> Well, I'm off to sleep. Good luck with that, excognac. See you later, lordievader and all.
[09:33] <excognac> Addle: wow, since i runned: KWIN_COMPOSE=O2 kwin --graphicssystem raster --replace & cube animation but all desktop is blinking balck
[09:33] <lordievader> Addle: Thank you, sleep well.
[09:34] <excognac> Addle: thanks a lot, have a good rest
[09:37] <excognac> lordievader: http://pastebin.kde.org/pt4posdqt after the command Addle adviced, now my screen blinks in blacks, looks super messy. however, cube animation works XDD
[09:38] <lordievader> excognac: Ah you are running Kubuntu inside a vm?
[09:41] <excognac> lordievader: no i don't. i've got a new computer in my office, installed kubuntu12.04 on it with kde backports.
[09:41] <excognac> lordievader: no other OS on it.
[09:45] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, what happened , i just updated to 13.10 and i am no more able to drag windows in the taskbar to another desktop
[09:45] <lordievader> excognac: Then why would it say VMware for OpenGL vendor?
[09:46] <lordievader> excognac: Could you pastebin the output of "glxinfo|grep OpenGL", you may need the package mesa-utils.
[09:50] <excognac> lordievader: ok soon. sorry for the delays
[09:51] <lordievader> excognac: No problem, that is IRC. For some conversations there is a delay of a day ;)
[10:06] <excognac> lordievader:  yeah i need mesa utils
[10:11] <excognac> lordievader: http://pastebin.kde.org/p2mlkaqwt the output
[10:14] <lordievader> excognac: Very strange that he detects it as VMware.
[10:17] <excognac> lordievader:yeah, pretty funny. now what can i do?
[10:18] <lordievader> excognac: I get the feeling that finding the cause of this is finding the cause of the opengl problem.
[10:20] <excognac> lordievader: so it's directly refers to a major issue which has not been solved yet?
[10:22] <lordievader> excognac: No I think it is loading the wrong driver because of that info. It is probably specific to your case.
[10:28] <excognac> lordievader: is there any possible solutin? now i try to set back everything to default 'cos it's pretty annoying to use the computer like this
[10:28] <excognac> *solution
[10:28] <lordievader> excognac: Have you installed some vmware stuff?
[10:29] <fatih> hi guys, how can i visit #winehq channel?
[10:29] <ikonia>  /join #winehq ?
[10:30] <fatih> thanks
[10:32] <excognac> lordievader: nope. i only installed lightdm login screen. nothing else serious
[10:34] <lordievader> excognac: Could you pastebin the ouput of: lspci -k|grep -A 3 VGA
[10:36] <excognac> lordievader: http://pastebin.kde.org/pwwk8nvtf
[10:39] <lordievader> excognac: Hmm, that should show a driver... So it is probably using the wrong driver.
[10:40] <lordievader> excognac: Does "lspci -k |grep vmware" return anything?
[10:46] <excognac> lordievader: nope, nothing
[10:48] <lordievader> excognac: Does this return something: lspci -k|grep vmwgfx
[10:49] <excognac> lordievader: nope, nothing
[10:50] <lordievader> excognac: Hmm oke. Well lets load the correct driver anyway. sudo modprobe i915
[10:51] <lordievader> Now there should be a driver mentioned under: lspci -k|grep -A 3 VGA
[10:57] <excognac> lordievader: ATAL: Error inserting i915 (/lib/modules/3.2.0-55-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko): No such device
[10:57] <excognac> for the modeprobe
[10:59] <lordievader> excognac: Would that be the problem that it is using the wrong driver?
[10:59] <jack-> excognac, "modprobe"...
[11:00] <lordievader> excognac: You have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed?
[11:00] <jack-> lordievader, i'm still stuck with Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding
[11:01] <lordievader> jack-: Did you do a fresh install of 13.10?
[11:01] <excognac> lordievader: the output after is http://pastebin.kde.org/phvlka9os
[11:01] <jack-> even if quantal is old, there must be a way...
[11:01] <jack-> (not yet)
[11:01] <lordievader> jack-: Not a way I know of.
[11:02] <jack-> sigh
[11:03] <ahoneybun> hey ikonia
[11:03] <jack-> i know the error is gone when this laptop is saucified
[11:04] <jack-> but........................
[11:04] <excognac> lordievader: yes, xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed
[11:05] <jack-> anyone else maybe? WISDOM is needed
[11:05] <apachelogger_> quantal? what? Oo
[11:05] <jack-> yup quantal
[11:06] <jack-> i'm getting Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding
[11:07] <jack-> on every attempt to use apt/dpkg
[11:07] <apachelogger_> your LANG/LANGUAGE/LOCALE envrionment variables seem to be borked
[11:10] <jack-> apachelogger, http://pastebin.com/8M94UgyM
[11:10] <jack-> how to fix?
[11:11] <apachelogger> LC_CTYPE="\"de_DE.UTF-8\""
[11:11] <apachelogger> lol
[11:11] <apachelogger> jack-: cat /etc/default/locale
[11:12] <apachelogger> jack-: cat /etc/envrionment
[11:12] <apachelogger> actually one of those should contain LC_CTYPE
[11:12] <apachelogger> kdesudo kate the file and remove the additional \" for each value
[11:12] <cer> hi have installed the Unity package to try Unity, but lighdm does not offer me the option .... any clue?
[11:12] <lordievader> excognac: Ah on a Suse forum someone says that such an error usually means that the module tried to load, but found no recognisable hardware... Which brings us back to that VMware thing...
[11:15] <lordievader> excognac: Do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[11:15] <jack-> jack@jack-Satellite-2430:~/Downloads$ cat /etc/default/locale
[11:15] <jack-> LANG="de_DE.UTF-8"
[11:15] <jack-> jack@jack-Satellite-2430:~/Downloads$ cat /etc/environment
[11:15] <jack-> PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games"
[11:15] <FloodBotK1> jack-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:16] <jack-> shrug
[11:16] <apachelogger> huh
[11:17] <jack-> no LC_CTYPE anywhere
[11:17] <apachelogger> jack-: sudo grep -r LC_CTYPE /etc
[11:17] <jack-> k, one sec
[11:17] <apachelogger> jack-: if there is none in /etc, create a new user and check if they also have the bogus escaped quotes in LC_CTYPE
[11:18] <apachelogger> if not then something in your home is setting the vars
[11:18] <excognac> lordievader: no i dont have that file
[11:19] <jack-> apachelogger, it's in /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default and in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80im-switch
[11:19] <lordievader> excognac: What version of Kubuntu are you running?
[11:19] <excognac> lordievader: 12.04
[11:19] <lordievader> excognac: You could check if a live-cd/usb does load the correct driver.
[11:20] <apachelogger> jack-: paste the output please
[11:20] <jack-> which output?
[11:20] <jack-> of the grep?
[11:21] <excognac> lordievader: live-cd session is all striped when i'm usiung a graphical interface if you remember from yesterday, i had to install lightdm
[11:22] <lordievader> excognac: Didn't really follow that conversation. That is with the Precise iso I presume? Have you tested with the Saucy iso?
[11:24] <jack-> apachelogger, http://pastebin.com/DGhVxktF
[11:25] <apachelogger> jack-: most likley not it... try a new user
[11:25] <jack-> ok
[11:26] <jack-> how do i quickly make a new user? i'm a linux noob...
[11:28] <ahoneybun> away
[11:28] <excognac> lordievader:i'll check it now with the raring iso. be back soon.
[11:33] <tsimpson> jack-: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto#Graphical_Kubuntu (or see the commandline version below it)
[11:35] <jack-> thx tsimpson
[11:36] <apachelogger> mhhh that page does not apply to 13.10 anymore, someone should fix that :P
[11:36] <excognac> lordievader: hi i!m on 13.`4 livecd now, all works fine.
[11:37] <lordievader> excognac: Correct vendor, correct driver?
[11:38] <excognac> lordievader: why i want 12.04 is that this will be mz machine in the office on which need nothing but sabillity, threfore I'd prefer LTS
[11:38] <excognac> lordievader: where do i check it? Kinfo center?
[11:39] <excognac> lordievader: cos there it looks like
[11:40] <lordievader> excognac: lspci -k|grep -A 3 VGA
[11:42] <jack-> Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding
[11:42] <jack-> EOFError: EOF read where not expected
[11:42] <jack-> in newjack's first shell :(
[11:43] <apachelogger> output of env
[11:45] <excognac> lordievader: http://pastebin.kde.org/phjtkzral i think this is correct now
[11:45] <lordievader> excognac: Now it loads the correct driver.
[11:46] <excognac> lordievader: so, how do i change the driver on the 12.`4 install then<
[11:48] <lordievader> excognac: Good question, the driver fails to load. And I think that is because of the wrong identified hardware (VMware).
[11:51] <jack-> apachelogger, http://pastebin.com/tGV0Gazk
[11:54] <apachelogger> jack-: right, perhaps your python is broken after all
[11:55] <apachelogger> jack-: what's `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` say
[11:59] <jack-> hold on...still running apt-get upgrade
[11:59] <excognac> lordievader: well, i'm not super comfortable with installing 13.04 or 13.10. so how do i make my beloved kubuntu to identify the correct driver? trz something like xorg-edgers/ppa or ubuntu-x-swat-/z-updates?
[12:03] <lordievader> excognac: Unfortunately that is beyond my know-how :(
[12:06] <excognac> lordievader: np, man. thank you very much for your patient support and long-lasting attention.
[12:07] <lordievader> excognac: Your welcome, I hope you'll figure it out eventually.
[12:08] <jack-> you're....
[12:08] <jack-> sorry
[12:09] <lordievader> jack-: Right, should've noticed that one...
[12:09] <jack-> :)
[12:09] <excognac> BluesKaj: Hi, may i ask what to do when a fresh install of a kubuntu 12.04 fails to load the correct graphics driver (thinks i'm using VMware)? Adding xorg-edgers/ppa would help?
[12:10]  * jack- = bad with linux, better with grammar
[12:15] <jack-> apachelogger, http://pastebin.com/7M7M14Wv
[12:16] <apachelogger> jack-: that would somewhat explain why python is being weird ;)
[12:16] <jack-> and now...?
[12:16] <excognac> bye all cza soon thanks for all
[12:16] <apachelogger> jack-: apt-get -f install... though I doubt it works
[12:17] <apachelogger> jack-: more likely you'll have to look for the culprint ... sudo apt-get install python3-distupgrade  then add stuff that does not want to install to that until you either have no more options to add or the installation would succeed
[12:18] <jack-> just trying sudo apt-get-f dist-upgrade
[12:18] <jack-> does something :) let's see
[12:20] <cer> what the the officla kubuntu development irc channel?
[12:20] <jack-> #kubuntu+1 i guess
[12:20] <lordievader> cer: #kubuntu-devel
[12:20] <lordievader> jack-: #kubuntu+1 doesn't exist the support channel for trusty is #ubuntu+1, for all flavours.
[12:21] <cer> thanks lordievader .... by the way, do you remember when we were discussing the cpu frequency setting a few days ago?
[12:21] <jack-> oh, ok
[12:21] <cer> lordievader: I think ti is actually a bug.
[12:22] <lordievader> cer: We where? Can you give a bit more background? (I forget quickly)
[12:22] <jack-> are there trusty-alpha isos already?
[12:23] <tsimpson> jack-: Alpha1 isn't until December
[12:23] <cer> lordievader: :D .... I am trying to find the IRC history, but I may have done some cleaning up already.
[12:24] <jack-> december? ok, cool
[12:25]  * jack- will be 42 on dec 1
[12:25] <tsimpson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule if you're interested
[12:26] <jack-> the magic douglas adams number...
[12:26] <jack-> thx tsimpson
[12:30] <jack-> april 17th :(
[12:30] <jack-> quite a while until release
[12:40] <evilc> Hi all, am having major problems since I was updated to saucy and now my OS is in a semi-unusable state. Is there anyone about who could help me? See http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?64014- for a thread outlining my woes...
[12:41] <lordievader> jack-: Saucy has just been released, and (K)ubuntu uses a 6 month release schedule ;)
[12:42] <evilc> specifically I now have a plasmoid task panel covering my entire main monitor (including the task panel) and I do not know how to remove it.
[12:43] <jack-> i know, lordievader
[12:46] <evilc> Or does anyone know somewhere I could get paid support on this? I cannot earn a living right now...
[12:50] <lordievader> evilc: Is your question about the panel detailed in the forum link?
[12:50] <evilc> yes - fancy panel
[12:50] <evilc> a good start I suppose would be to find out how to kill that plasmoid
[12:51] <evilc> there are wider issues with the OS, but until I can get back the use of my main monitor, there is little point to try to continue
[12:52] <evilc> my main screen just looks like this: http://snag.gy/8mzUo.jpg
[12:52] <evilc> the super-large plasmoid is capturing all clicks on that monitor
[12:52] <lordievader> evilc: You cannot right-click on that and click remove?
[12:53] <evilc> nope
[12:53] <evilc> oh hang on
[12:53] <cer> evilc: lordievader: I think you have the wrong activty set up .... look in the activities ....
[12:53] <lordievader> evilc: Are your widgets locked?
[12:53] <evilc> I just found a gap where I could right click
[12:54] <cer> evilc: are you on activity netboook?
[12:54] <evilc> I got rid of it!!
[12:54] <evilc> OK, so onto the next issue....
[12:55] <evilc> when I right click a panel > configure...
[12:55] <evilc> if I drag the "Screen Edge" handle, I get *very* weird behaviour
[12:55] <evilc> when I move mouse down, panel moves up!
[12:55] <evilc> it also flickers
[12:56] <evilc> if I release, result is pretty random. eg last time I did it I got stuck in that super-sized state
[12:56] <evilc> I have a sneaky feeling it may be related to multi-monitor
[12:57] <evilc> now I have main monitor back, gonna try disabling other monitors...
[12:57] <lordievader> evilc: What kind of graphics card do you have and what driver?
[12:58] <evilc> no idea what driver
[12:58] <evilc> I have an nvidia gtx 660ti and a rubbishy ATI radeon
[12:58] <evilc> 660ti driving 2 monitors, radeon driving one
[13:00] <evilc> hmm
[13:00] <lordievader> Such a setup is bound to give problems.
[13:00] <evilc> drag issue only seems to happen on the 2nd monitor attached to the nvidia
[13:00] <evilc> the main monitor on the nv and the monitor on the ati do not seem to suffer from this issue
[13:00] <evilc> why would that be a problem?
[13:01] <evilc> many people use different GPUs, eg on-board integrated plus an extra one
[13:01] <lordievader> Because you probably want to use the closed source drivers. And the nVidia one doesn't like the AMD one, and vice-versa.
[13:02] <evilc> can't run closed source with mixed GPU?
[13:02] <lordievader> My last experience with a similair setup was that the nvidia driver would disable the amd one, and amd would disable the nvidia one.
[13:08] <evilc> OK, gonna try nvidia drivers see what happens
[13:08] <evilc> I went to Additional drivers, and see a "NVIDIA binary Xorg driver...", is that the one?
[13:10] <evilc> says I need to restart, BRB
[13:11] <lordievader> There is usually more than one.
[13:25] <fatih> hi guys, i have a sound problem in games, i installed latest wine version. i'm using kubuntu 13.10 but i cant get sound call of juarez gunslinger game on steam. what must i do?
[13:30] <lucasirc> how call the process that init with alt+f2? it crashed
[13:36] <hateball> lucasirc: krunner
[13:36] <lucasirc> thnaks
[13:36] <lucasirc> thanks* =)
[13:41] <evilC> so that went horribly wrong...
[13:41] <evilC> linux will now not boot
[13:42] <m3kk> Is there anyone else think kde is pretty cluttered ?
[13:42] <lordievader> evilC: Entirely, or X?
[13:42] <m3kk> or.. "ugly" at least?
[13:42] <evilC> just x I think
[13:42] <evilC> I activated nv drivers...
[13:43] <jussi> m3kk: thats probably more a question for #kubuntu-offtopic,
[13:43] <lordievader> evilC: Your card is supported by the driver you installed?
[13:43] <evilC> and I saw a conflict with ati driver... the ati card was primary (despite not being main gfx card in BIOS)
[13:43] <evilC> so I removed the ati card...
[13:43] <lordievader> evilC: That's what I ment ;)
[13:43] <darktuxs> Can someone assist me?
[13:44] <m3kk> jussi: thanks
[13:44] <darktuxs> evilC: ?
[13:44] <evilC> seemed fine, then to verify some stuff I thought I would deactivate nv driver
[13:44] <evilC> but on reboot i get no x, just a flashing cursor
[13:46] <darktuxs> Can someone help me? I added a new user on my machine and I wanted to migrate my file to the new user.
[13:47] <evilC> I can enter recovery mode. but no idea what to do
[13:47] <lordievader> evilC: Have you checked that your card is supported by the driver?
[13:47] <evilC> was fine with driver activated
[13:47] <darktuxs> lordievader: Can someone help me? I added a new user on my machine and I wanted to migrate my file to the new user.
[13:47] <evilC> problem started when I DEactivated
[13:48] <lordievader> !patience | darktuxs
[13:48] <darktuxs> lordievader: My apologies.
[13:48] <lordievader> darktuxs: Do you have read/write access to the other user's files?
[13:49] <darktuxs> lordievader: I think so.
[13:49] <lordievader> darktuxs: Then it's a simple copy/move action, ain't it?
[13:51] <darktuxs> lordievader: I'm trying to remember the commands to do so.
[13:51] <lordievader> darktuxs: mv for move and cp for copy ;)
[13:52] <darktuxs> lordievader: Eep .___. that was going to be my first attempt lol.
[13:52] <darktuxs> thanks ^__^
[13:52] <lordievader> darktuxs: Also see "man mv" and "man cp".
[13:53] <evilC> ok I think I may have made progress...
[13:53] <evilC> I plugged the ATI card back in and I get a desktop on that
[13:53] <evilC> flashing cursor only on nvidia screen
[13:54] <evilC> nvidia screens no longer show in display config
[13:54] <evilC> maybe I need to reinstall open src nv driver?
[13:56] <evilC> any ideas on how i would do that?
[13:57] <lordievader> evilC: Remove the closed source driver: dpkg --get-selections|grep nvidia, those are the packges that need to be removed.
[13:59] <darktuxs> lordievader: Thanks! Hey? sorry to be a bother. I want to make this easier and I tried researching it
[14:00] <darktuxs> lordievader: Instead that long process. How can I change the username of my account, not the host name?
[14:00] <evilC> say libkwinnvidiahack4 as deinstall, nvidia-319-updates, nvidia-common, nvidia-settings-319-updates all listed as "install"
[14:00] <evilC> so remove the 3 listed as install?
[14:00] <lordievader> evilC: Yes.
[14:01] <lordievader> darktuxs: Euhmm check the Usermanager in System Settings, honestly no idea. Never done such a thing.
[14:01] <darktuxs> lordievader: Okay, sir.
[14:01] <evilC> ok, done
[14:02] <evilC> reboot?
[14:02] <lordievader> evilC: Yes. And hopefully X starts.
[14:03] <evilC> success!! thankyou
[14:21] <[Ethos]> :>
[14:21] <[Ethos]> hello
[14:22] <evilC> Well thanks lordievader - I finally have a working system again, and with the help of rog in that post have the old task manager back from raring
[14:22] <evilC> both of you are total heroes!
[14:24] <[Ethos]> does Netflix app for Ubuntu work on Kubuntu as well? :>
[14:24] <[Ethos]> don't feel like doing a trial and error.
[14:27] <tsimpson> [Ethos]: there's no reason it shouldn't, the only difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu is the default GUI
[14:27] <[Ethos]> tsimpson: ok, thanks.
[14:27] <[Ethos]> gonna give it a try now
[14:31] <lordievader> evilC: No problem ;)
[14:31] <lordievader> evilC: Have fun ;)
[14:32] <evilC> oh for that it were for fun... unfortunately all this dicking around was stopping me from earning a crust
[14:36] <evilC> can someone tell me if I need kde wallet manager? Does it store passwords for chrome? This popup every boot is annoying, I was wondering if I can disable the wallet manager
[14:42] <[Ethos]> evilC: you should remove the wallet, if you don't need extra security
[14:42] <[Ethos]> you shouldn't have set the password, when it asked
[14:42] <[Ethos]> it will ask you enter password twice now, but from homedirectory, erase the kwallet folder
[14:46] <tsimpson> you can just reset the password to blank
[14:46] <tsimpson> less secure, but still keeps usefulness
[14:55] <[Ethos]> how do I establish a channel
[14:55] <[Ethos]> I want to invite people to my channel
[14:55] <[Ethos]> heh
[14:55] <genii> [Ethos]: /join ##yourchannelname
[14:56] <[Ethos]> now I want to register it
[14:56] <genii> [Ethos]: http://blog.freenode.net/2008/04/registering-a-channel-on-freenode/
[14:57] <jack-> or just /msg chanserv help
[14:58] <evilC> thankyou, blank password worked
[15:07] <[Ethos]> genii: thanks.
[15:07] <[Ethos]> jack-: Thanks.
[15:07] <excognac> hi 12.04 failed on a new machine due to graphics drivers. now trying to install 13.04 which has better drivers. then it failed too, gub-dummz fatal. what to do now?
[15:07] <excognac> *grub-dummy
[17:12] <casa> worr
[17:16] <Moscherkobold> hello everyone, each time I want to start the muon update program it crashes
[17:19] <Moscherkobold> http://pastebin.kde.org/puhgto984
[17:28] <dougiel> my bluetooth icon does not appear in my system setting anymore
[17:28] <dougiel> on my 13.04 install
[17:44] <Bootvis> hi, if I login, my screen turns black and puts me on the login screen again
[17:44] <Bootvis> I'm on 13.04, how to diagnose?
[17:44] <Bootvis> AFAICT from /var/log/Xorg.0.log X doesn't crash
[17:51] <Bootvis> from /var/log/syslog I gather it might be a pulseaudio problem
[17:59] <Bootvis> hmm, now I have the guest account working, so I'm thinking configuration and renamed ~/.config to ~/.config_old but still nothing
[18:20] <lordievader> Bootvis: You where probably aiming for .kde <- is where the kde config files live.
[18:23] <Bootvis> erm, good point
[18:24] <Bootvis> also getting some updates to, amongst others, lightdm
[18:28] <Bootvis> thanks lordievader, that's it
[18:28] <Bootvis> much better than setting up a new user
[18:30] <Bootvis> fixed!
[18:31] <lordievader> Bootvis: Good to hear :)
[18:34] <Bootvis> should I put a bug report somewhere? I don't really have an idea what went wrong
[18:35] <[Ethos]> kubuntu.com
[18:35] <lordievader> Bootvis: Have you been playing with settings?
[18:35] <lordievader> Bootvis: I'm not really sure if this is a bug or an unsupported setting.
[18:37] <[Ethos]> Isn't there a channel on freenode to report bugs for Kubuntu?
[18:38] <lordievader> [Ethos]: IRC is not a good medium for bug reports.
[18:38] <lordievader> !bug| [Ethos]
[18:38] <[Ethos]> thanks
[18:41] <[Ethos]> how do I configure default gdm with startx
[18:42] <[Ethos]> I'm running Ubuntu Server,but I have gnome, kde,  xubuntu all
[18:42] <[Ethos]> desktops, including ubuntustudio
[18:43] <lordievader> [Ethos]: Gdm hasn't been used since, what, 11.04? Besides that is more a topic for #ubuntu.
[18:43] <[Ethos]> well right now it defaults to kde environment
[18:43] <[Ethos]> lightgdm is for setting kde?
[18:44] <lordievader> [Ethos]: Lightdm is currently the default display manager for both Kubuntu and Ubuntu, to start it simply time "sudo service lightdm start" if it doesn't start automatically.
[18:45] <[Ethos]> lordievader: thanks.
[18:45] <[Ethos]> I do not want to start it automatically, just wish to select default desktop enviornment
[18:46] <lordievader> [Ethos]: I rarely do anything with startx, I know it looks to xsession for the default. But that is about all I know of startx.
[18:47] <genii> The display manager usually shows whatever was selected last time as the default
[18:48] <[Ethos]> ok I see
[18:48] <[Ethos]> when I get the login screen, I select the default desktop
[18:49] <[Ethos]> on startx
[18:49] <[Ethos]> since its on a server I didn't want to start it by default
[18:50] <lordievader> [Ethos]: The way I do it, is comment the "start on" lines in /etc/init/lightdm.conf. That way it doesn't start automatically but I can start it with "sudo service lightdm start"
[18:51] <[Ethos]> lordievader: Thanks Again.  :>
[18:53]  * genii ponders echo "ENABLED=0" | sudo tee -a /etc/default/lightdm
[18:53] <MangaKaDenza> genii, can I loop apt-get update multiple times
[18:54] <genii> MangaKaDenza: I'm not sure your question makes sense yet
[18:54] <MangaKaDenza> I wanna run it for infinity
[18:54] <lordievader> genii: That's probably easier, thanks for the tip.
[18:57] <tsimpson> you can "echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/lightdm.override"
[18:57] <tsimpson> that way it'll only start explicitly with "sudo service lightdm start"
[18:57] <Bootvis> lordievader: no never touch them
[18:58] <lordievader> Bootvis: What? Touch whom?
[18:59] <genii> tsimpson: Oh, nice! <makes a note in his little blue book>
[18:59] <Bootvis> the settings
[19:00] <lordievader> Bootvis: As genii and tsimpson offer much simpler solutions I'd go with one of those.
[19:03] <Bootvis> lordievader: that does not apply to me, does it?
[19:03] <lordievader> Bootvis: Oh sorry. It does not indeed.
[19:04] <lordievader> Bootvis: Did the blackscreen login happen after an update?
[19:06] <genii> MangaKaDenza: Technically it's possible to make apt-get update run in some infinite loop. But there is no good reason to do this, the main one being that it will lock the /var/lib/dpkg/lock file permanently.
[19:06] <genii> You will never be able to run the GUI package installer, etc
[19:08] <Bootvis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1246016
[19:08] <Bootvis> lordievader: I remember again (I booted to Windows for a while) it happenend after a kernel update
[19:10] <genii> Bootvis: The seond time it appears is loggin in successful, or does it continually dump back to lightdm? Because this is symptomatic of improper permissions in home dir
[19:10] <lordievader> Bootvis: Make sure you mention that you are using Kubuntu, also add the latest entries from /var/log/apt/history
[19:10] <Bootvis> it goes back
[19:13] <genii> Bootvis: I would suggest then to check the permissions of files the user's home directory. Possibly they got changed accidentally ( for instance by running startx as root there or such)
[19:16] <Bootvis> find . -name "*" -type d -print0 | xargs -0 ls -l | grep root
[19:16] <Bootvis> doesn't give anything interesting
[19:18] <genii> Bootvis: If you: sudo adduser then try login to that account, does it work?
[19:18] <lordievader> genii: For as far as I know is Bootvis's problem solved, he moved/removed his .kde folder.
[19:18] <Bootvis> yes, it works
[19:19] <Bootvis> made the bug report, unfortunately it is very vague :(
[19:19] <genii> Bootvis: Then the issue is not with lightdm, but someplace in the home directory ( if the .kde dir was moved/renamed and then it worked, was in there someplace)
[19:20] <genii> This can happen if there were settings which no longer apply, like an app was open in a saved session and the app got removed or such.
[19:22] <Bootvis> ah ok
[19:24] <jack_> leave
[19:26] <anubis> Hello im desperate: I need to do some work due tomorrow, where i need some simple OpenGl Using freeglut. I have a simple program, but i get weird errors. See http://paste.debian.net/62844/. Can someone help me plz?
[19:28] <genii> anubis: Might want to try the #opengl channel ( may be ##opengl instead, but one of those)
[19:49] <jack-> i so wish kubuntu-saucy.iso would contain an installer app for linux...
[19:50] <jack-> having to burn or usbstickify the image first kinda stops me atm
[19:55] <cris2> Hi, someone there to help me to set up a dual screen in Kubuntu 13.10 (+ amd graphics card)?
[19:56] <cris2> when a write "xrandr" my seconde screen is not detected
[20:36] <EvilRoey> hey all
[20:37]  * genii makes more coffee
[20:37] <EvilRoey> How can I unlock my KDE session from the command line?
[20:37] <EvilRoey> I am not sure if it is locked..all I did was lock it, then saw the screen go completely black and unresponsive to clicks/keypresses
[20:37] <EvilRoey> (still see the mouse though)
[20:37] <EvilRoey> all the apps are stilil running
[20:38] <EvilRoey> I did  'export DISPLAY=:0' and all that so I can access qdbus
[20:40] <genii> EvilRoey: I haven't tried any of these but they look promising: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/2264/unlock-your-kde4-session-remotely-for-boxes-locked-by-kde-lock-utility
[20:40] <lordievader> EvilRoey: For that I use xdotool, it fakes keyboard input ;)
[20:46] <EvilRoey> yeah I saw that page
[20:46] <EvilRoey> 1) the dbus bindings it lists are out of date
[20:46] <EvilRoey> i.e. it is not org.kde.krunner
[20:46] <EvilRoey> 2) I think it is not an issue of locking anymore.  I have no idea.  It's just a black screen (with a mouse cursor)
[20:47] <EvilRoey> will be back in  abit
[20:47] <EvilRoey> *a bit
[20:53] <elien> how can restore to the default settings my muon software center..... I have not a bar to search apps and install the update available...
[20:53] <elien> anyone can help me?
[21:07] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[21:32] <theenduser> in 13.10 akkregator doesn't mark items read,  any thoughts?
[22:06] <[Ethos]> Amarok doesn't play mp3s, how do I get it to play mp3 on my Kubuntu - Desktop
[22:07] <[Ethos]> it says No Plugins found
[22:19] <jarnos> When do we get this fixed in ubuntu? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274221
[22:52] <laboy> If I want to join a channel I just write the channels name or I have ti put irc freenode and all of that?
[23:00] <[Ethos]> how do I enable kdewallet?
[23:00] <[Ethos]> heh
[23:01] <[Ethos]> can you assign programs to secure it?
[23:01] <[Ethos]> say before opening firefox
[23:01] <[Ethos]> can I assign a password prompt
[23:03] <MrDublin> here nobody talks dont even bother
[23:09] <goodtime> sometimes people talk here lol
[23:58] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit