=== soul is now known as Guest13126 === daniel is now known as Guest9617 === goodtime_ is now known as goodtime === Steakanbake|slee is now known as Steakanbake [06:28] !netsplit [06:28] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [07:45] hi all [07:48] how do i start to understand why i have no desktop effects? [07:53] Good morning. [07:53] excognac: That is usually related to a gfx driver. [07:53] ok, so if i cp .kde/share/config/plasma-*, will i have the same desktop sttings? [07:56] excognac: I'm not sure if the desktop effects are also in there, read the files to know what settings you copy. [07:58] lordievader: thanks bro. Maybe it's better just to fit kubuntu on this machine How do i start to understand what's the matter? [08:04] lordievader: or anybody who'd be kind to help: http://pastebin.kde.org/poxlmbg41 [08:06] hmm [08:06] how do I restart my audio drivers and such [08:06] er [08:06] audio [08:18] excognac: Hmm those Intel gfx chips usually work out of the box. Under Desktop Effects -> Advanced -> Compositing Type what have you selected? [08:21] lordievader: i tried both xrender (by default) and set it later on to open GL 3.1, nothing has changed however I haven't rebooted inbeetween [08:22] excognac: Ok and what effect don't work? [08:23] lordievader: cube animation. i turned off Blure and Fade [08:23] excognac: Is Slide still on? [08:24] lordievader: in all effects it's turned off [08:26] excognac: Interesting and the shortcut is working? [08:28] lordievader: sorry which shortcut? changeing between virtual desktops works fine with default Ctrl+F1 or so. Alt+Tab works differntly as set. [08:29] excognac: I usually set ctrl+alt + arrow-key for switching. Not sure if it is default though. Anyhow using ctrl+f1 does what effect does it use? [08:30] lordievader: switches to destktop 1 [08:30] excognac: Without an effect? [08:30] lordievader: yes. [08:32] excognac: On the General Tab of Desktop Effects, is Various Animation checked and Effects for desktop switching set to Desktop Cube Animation? [08:32] lordievader: yes they always have been checked. shall i try to reboot? [08:33] Is compositing on? Maybe hit ALT+SHIFT+F12 to toggle it. [08:33] excognac: Don't see how that will improve things, but go ahead ;) [08:33] lordievader: ok cya soon [08:33] Ohh that's a good one, Addle [08:33] Thanks :) [08:35] One of my favorite settings: Suspect desktop effects for fullscreen windows. [08:35] *Suspend === gabor is now known as excognac [08:36] lordievader: nothing has changed. however upon booting at kde splash screen when it comes to desktop icon display goes dark for 2 secs or so [08:37] excognac: Did you miss this message? Is compositing on? Maybe hit ALT+SHIFT+F12 to toggle it. [08:37] excognac: Worth a shot. [08:41] Addle: lordievader: altshiftf12 didn't help. wtf, after i change Desktop Effects->Advanced->Compositing type and click apply twice, and close Sys Setting it simply changes back [08:41] Change from what to what? [08:42] lordievader: from xrender to OpenGL2.0 or 3.1 [08:43] excognac: Does OpenGL1.2 work? [08:44] lordievader: nope, same [08:45] lordievader: set, say both cases apply and close settings. then open again and it's again set on xrender [08:46] lordievader: is there anywayx to do it from konsole? [08:46] excognac: Mine is set to OpenGL 2.0, and works. (Qt graphics system set to Raster) and it all works. NVidia GTX560. [08:47] Addle: yeah i set it to raster too. on mylaptop it works fine, i tried to use the same setting buit this is a desktop machine quite stronger) and it's all messed up however I have intel graphics in both [08:48] excognac: I'm starting to think you are suffering from the same bug I had once, let me see if I can find the details. [08:49] excognac: It works on this very old laptop with a terrible Intel 855GM card, so should be able to work for you. :) [08:51] excognac: Hmm maybe not, that was about color correction. Does that happen to be on? [08:52] lordievader: nope, it's off === mint is now known as Guest74705 [08:53] lordievader: lololol now totally messed up: it's on openGl 1.2 i try to set to 3.1 and it jumps to xrender insted [08:54] excognac: You can set it through the terminal ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc [08:54] lordievader: how? [08:54] excognac: Editing the config file ;) [08:56] excognac: This is what I got in there, I'm also running an Intel chip (older than yours though): http://paste.ubuntu.com/6322947/ === MangaKaDenza is now known as MangaKaenza [08:58] lordievader: ok, where do i paste this? === MangaKaenza is now known as MangaKaDenza [08:58] excognac: It is only ment as an example. You shouldn't copy this somewhere. === soul is now known as Guest67827 [09:06] lordievader: shall i edit it with sudo nano ...? [09:06] excognac: It's in your home, so shouldn't need sudo. Just nano should be fine. [09:06] excognac: I do suspect the XRender that keeps popping up is the issue. [09:07] As Addle says. However it is odd that OpenGL woudn't work on an Intel chip.. [09:09] excognac: I think you should be able to force it if you have in [Compositing]: Backend=OpenGL [09:11] excognac: Possibly make sure GraphicsSystem=raster as well. [09:13] Addle: ok, one sec i'm on the job soon. [09:19] excognac: If not, this might do it, and give you some potentially useful output: KWIN_COMPOSE=O2 kwin --graphicssystem raster --replace & [09:19] excognac: Which is from here: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=109963 [09:32] Well, I'm off to sleep. Good luck with that, excognac. See you later, lordievader and all. [09:33] Addle: wow, since i runned: KWIN_COMPOSE=O2 kwin --graphicssystem raster --replace & cube animation but all desktop is blinking balck [09:33] Addle: Thank you, sleep well. [09:34] Addle: thanks a lot, have a good rest [09:37] lordievader: http://pastebin.kde.org/pt4posdqt after the command Addle adviced, now my screen blinks in blacks, looks super messy. however, cube animation works XDD [09:38] excognac: Ah you are running Kubuntu inside a vm? [09:41] lordievader: no i don't. i've got a new computer in my office, installed kubuntu12.04 on it with kde backports. [09:41] lordievader: no other OS on it. [09:45] hi there, what happened , i just updated to 13.10 and i am no more able to drag windows in the taskbar to another desktop [09:45] excognac: Then why would it say VMware for OpenGL vendor? [09:46] excognac: Could you pastebin the output of "glxinfo|grep OpenGL", you may need the package mesa-utils. [09:50] lordievader: ok soon. sorry for the delays [09:51] excognac: No problem, that is IRC. For some conversations there is a delay of a day ;) [10:06] lordievader: yeah i need mesa utils [10:11] lordievader: http://pastebin.kde.org/p2mlkaqwt the output [10:14] excognac: Very strange that he detects it as VMware. === liveuser is now known as Guest86122 [10:17] lordievader:yeah, pretty funny. now what can i do? [10:18] excognac: I get the feeling that finding the cause of this is finding the cause of the opengl problem. [10:20] lordievader: so it's directly refers to a major issue which has not been solved yet? [10:22] excognac: No I think it is loading the wrong driver because of that info. It is probably specific to your case. === pesa is now known as Guest5777 [10:28] lordievader: is there any possible solutin? now i try to set back everything to default 'cos it's pretty annoying to use the computer like this [10:28] *solution [10:28] excognac: Have you installed some vmware stuff? [10:29] hi guys, how can i visit #winehq channel? [10:29] /join #winehq ? [10:30] thanks [10:32] lordievader: nope. i only installed lightdm login screen. nothing else serious [10:34] excognac: Could you pastebin the ouput of: lspci -k|grep -A 3 VGA [10:36] lordievader: http://pastebin.kde.org/pwwk8nvtf [10:39] excognac: Hmm, that should show a driver... So it is probably using the wrong driver. [10:40] excognac: Does "lspci -k |grep vmware" return anything? [10:46] lordievader: nope, nothing [10:48] excognac: Does this return something: lspci -k|grep vmwgfx [10:49] lordievader: nope, nothing [10:50] excognac: Hmm oke. Well lets load the correct driver anyway. sudo modprobe i915 [10:51] Now there should be a driver mentioned under: lspci -k|grep -A 3 VGA [10:57] lordievader: ATAL: Error inserting i915 (/lib/modules/3.2.0-55-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko): No such device [10:57] for the modeprobe [10:59] excognac: Would that be the problem that it is using the wrong driver? [10:59] excognac, "modprobe"... [11:00] excognac: You have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed? [11:00] lordievader, i'm still stuck with Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding [11:01] jack-: Did you do a fresh install of 13.10? [11:01] lordievader: the output after is http://pastebin.kde.org/phvlka9os [11:01] even if quantal is old, there must be a way... [11:01] (not yet) [11:01] jack-: Not a way I know of. [11:02] sigh [11:03] hey ikonia [11:03] i know the error is gone when this laptop is saucified [11:04] but........................ [11:04] lordievader: yes, xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed [11:05] anyone else maybe? WISDOM is needed [11:05] quantal? what? Oo [11:05] yup quantal [11:06] i'm getting Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding [11:07] on every attempt to use apt/dpkg [11:07] your LANG/LANGUAGE/LOCALE envrionment variables seem to be borked === feisar is now known as Guest95684 [11:10] apachelogger, http://pastebin.com/8M94UgyM [11:10] how to fix? === feisar_ is now known as Guest62363 [11:11] LC_CTYPE="\"de_DE.UTF-8\"" [11:11] lol [11:11] jack-: cat /etc/default/locale [11:12] jack-: cat /etc/envrionment [11:12] actually one of those should contain LC_CTYPE [11:12] kdesudo kate the file and remove the additional \" for each value [11:12] hi have installed the Unity package to try Unity, but lighdm does not offer me the option .... any clue? [11:12] excognac: Ah on a Suse forum someone says that such an error usually means that the module tried to load, but found no recognisable hardware... Which brings us back to that VMware thing... [11:15] excognac: Do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? [11:15] jack@jack-Satellite-2430:~/Downloads$ cat /etc/default/locale [11:15] LANG="de_DE.UTF-8" [11:15] jack@jack-Satellite-2430:~/Downloads$ cat /etc/environment [11:15] PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games" [11:15] jack-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [11:16] shrug [11:16] huh [11:17] no LC_CTYPE anywhere [11:17] jack-: sudo grep -r LC_CTYPE /etc [11:17] k, one sec [11:17] jack-: if there is none in /etc, create a new user and check if they also have the bogus escaped quotes in LC_CTYPE [11:18] if not then something in your home is setting the vars [11:18] lordievader: no i dont have that file [11:19] apachelogger, it's in /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default and in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80im-switch [11:19] excognac: What version of Kubuntu are you running? [11:19] lordievader: 12.04 [11:19] excognac: You could check if a live-cd/usb does load the correct driver. [11:20] jack-: paste the output please [11:20] which output? [11:20] of the grep? [11:21] lordievader: live-cd session is all striped when i'm usiung a graphical interface if you remember from yesterday, i had to install lightdm [11:22] excognac: Didn't really follow that conversation. That is with the Precise iso I presume? Have you tested with the Saucy iso? [11:24] apachelogger, http://pastebin.com/DGhVxktF [11:25] jack-: most likley not it... try a new user [11:25] ok [11:26] how do i quickly make a new user? i'm a linux noob... [11:28] away [11:28] lordievader:i'll check it now with the raring iso. be back soon. [11:33] jack-: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto#Graphical_Kubuntu (or see the commandline version below it) [11:35] thx tsimpson [11:36] mhhh that page does not apply to 13.10 anymore, someone should fix that :P [11:36] lordievader: hi i!m on 13.`4 livecd now, all works fine. [11:37] excognac: Correct vendor, correct driver? [11:38] lordievader: why i want 12.04 is that this will be mz machine in the office on which need nothing but sabillity, threfore I'd prefer LTS [11:38] lordievader: where do i check it? Kinfo center? [11:39] lordievader: cos there it looks like [11:40] excognac: lspci -k|grep -A 3 VGA [11:42] Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding [11:42] EOFError: EOF read where not expected [11:42] in newjack's first shell :( [11:43] output of env [11:45] lordievader: http://pastebin.kde.org/phjtkzral i think this is correct now [11:45] excognac: Now it loads the correct driver. [11:46] lordievader: so, how do i change the driver on the 12.`4 install then< [11:48] excognac: Good question, the driver fails to load. And I think that is because of the wrong identified hardware (VMware). [11:51] apachelogger, http://pastebin.com/tGV0Gazk [11:54] jack-: right, perhaps your python is broken after all [11:55] jack-: what's `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` say [11:59] hold on...still running apt-get upgrade [11:59] lordievader: well, i'm not super comfortable with installing 13.04 or 13.10. so how do i make my beloved kubuntu to identify the correct driver? trz something like xorg-edgers/ppa or ubuntu-x-swat-/z-updates? [12:03] excognac: Unfortunately that is beyond my know-how :( [12:06] lordievader: np, man. thank you very much for your patient support and long-lasting attention. [12:07] excognac: Your welcome, I hope you'll figure it out eventually. [12:08] you're.... [12:08] sorry [12:09] jack-: Right, should've noticed that one... [12:09] :) [12:09] BluesKaj: Hi, may i ask what to do when a fresh install of a kubuntu 12.04 fails to load the correct graphics driver (thinks i'm using VMware)? Adding xorg-edgers/ppa would help? [12:10] * jack- = bad with linux, better with grammar [12:15] apachelogger, http://pastebin.com/7M7M14Wv [12:16] jack-: that would somewhat explain why python is being weird ;) [12:16] and now...? [12:16] bye all cza soon thanks for all [12:16] jack-: apt-get -f install... though I doubt it works [12:17] jack-: more likely you'll have to look for the culprint ... sudo apt-get install python3-distupgrade then add stuff that does not want to install to that until you either have no more options to add or the installation would succeed [12:18] just trying sudo apt-get-f dist-upgrade [12:18] does something :) let's see [12:20] what the the officla kubuntu development irc channel? [12:20] #kubuntu+1 i guess [12:20] cer: #kubuntu-devel [12:20] jack-: #kubuntu+1 doesn't exist the support channel for trusty is #ubuntu+1, for all flavours. [12:21] thanks lordievader .... by the way, do you remember when we were discussing the cpu frequency setting a few days ago? [12:21] oh, ok [12:21] lordievader: I think ti is actually a bug. [12:22] cer: We where? Can you give a bit more background? (I forget quickly) [12:22] are there trusty-alpha isos already? [12:23] jack-: Alpha1 isn't until December [12:23] lordievader: :D .... I am trying to find the IRC history, but I may have done some cleaning up already. [12:24] december? ok, cool === gabor is now known as excognac [12:25] * jack- will be 42 on dec 1 [12:25] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule if you're interested [12:26] the magic douglas adams number... [12:26] thx tsimpson [12:30] april 17th :( [12:30] quite a while until release === mint is now known as Guest94544 [12:40] Hi all, am having major problems since I was updated to saucy and now my OS is in a semi-unusable state. Is there anyone about who could help me? See http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?64014- for a thread outlining my woes... [12:41] jack-: Saucy has just been released, and (K)ubuntu uses a 6 month release schedule ;) [12:42] specifically I now have a plasmoid task panel covering my entire main monitor (including the task panel) and I do not know how to remove it. [12:43] i know, lordievader [12:46] Or does anyone know somewhere I could get paid support on this? I cannot earn a living right now... [12:50] evilc: Is your question about the panel detailed in the forum link? [12:50] yes - fancy panel [12:50] a good start I suppose would be to find out how to kill that plasmoid [12:51] there are wider issues with the OS, but until I can get back the use of my main monitor, there is little point to try to continue [12:52] my main screen just looks like this: http://snag.gy/8mzUo.jpg [12:52] the super-large plasmoid is capturing all clicks on that monitor [12:52] evilc: You cannot right-click on that and click remove? [12:53] nope [12:53] oh hang on [12:53] evilc: lordievader: I think you have the wrong activty set up .... look in the activities .... [12:53] evilc: Are your widgets locked? [12:53] I just found a gap where I could right click [12:54] evilc: are you on activity netboook? [12:54] I got rid of it!! [12:54] OK, so onto the next issue.... [12:55] when I right click a panel > configure... [12:55] if I drag the "Screen Edge" handle, I get *very* weird behaviour [12:55] when I move mouse down, panel moves up! [12:55] it also flickers [12:56] if I release, result is pretty random. eg last time I did it I got stuck in that super-sized state [12:56] I have a sneaky feeling it may be related to multi-monitor [12:57] now I have main monitor back, gonna try disabling other monitors... [12:57] evilc: What kind of graphics card do you have and what driver? [12:58] no idea what driver [12:58] I have an nvidia gtx 660ti and a rubbishy ATI radeon [12:58] 660ti driving 2 monitors, radeon driving one [13:00] hmm [13:00] Such a setup is bound to give problems. [13:00] drag issue only seems to happen on the 2nd monitor attached to the nvidia [13:00] the main monitor on the nv and the monitor on the ati do not seem to suffer from this issue [13:00] why would that be a problem? [13:01] many people use different GPUs, eg on-board integrated plus an extra one [13:01] Because you probably want to use the closed source drivers. And the nVidia one doesn't like the AMD one, and vice-versa. [13:02] can't run closed source with mixed GPU? [13:02] My last experience with a similair setup was that the nvidia driver would disable the amd one, and amd would disable the nvidia one. [13:08] OK, gonna try nvidia drivers see what happens [13:08] I went to Additional drivers, and see a "NVIDIA binary Xorg driver...", is that the one? [13:10] says I need to restart, BRB [13:11] There is usually more than one. [13:25] hi guys, i have a sound problem in games, i installed latest wine version. i'm using kubuntu 13.10 but i cant get sound call of juarez gunslinger game on steam. what must i do? [13:30] how call the process that init with alt+f2? it crashed === jmpiloq_ is now known as jmpiloq [13:36] lucasirc: krunner [13:36] thnaks [13:36] thanks* =) [13:41] so that went horribly wrong... [13:41] linux will now not boot [13:42] Is there anyone else think kde is pretty cluttered ? [13:42] evilC: Entirely, or X? [13:42] or.. "ugly" at least? [13:42] just x I think [13:42] I activated nv drivers... [13:43] m3kk: thats probably more a question for #kubuntu-offtopic, [13:43] evilC: Your card is supported by the driver you installed? [13:43] and I saw a conflict with ati driver... the ati card was primary (despite not being main gfx card in BIOS) [13:43] so I removed the ati card... [13:43] evilC: That's what I ment ;) [13:43] Can someone assist me? [13:44] jussi: thanks [13:44] evilC: ? [13:44] seemed fine, then to verify some stuff I thought I would deactivate nv driver [13:44] but on reboot i get no x, just a flashing cursor [13:46] Can someone help me? I added a new user on my machine and I wanted to migrate my file to the new user. [13:47] I can enter recovery mode. but no idea what to do [13:47] evilC: Have you checked that your card is supported by the driver? [13:47] was fine with driver activated [13:47] lordievader: Can someone help me? I added a new user on my machine and I wanted to migrate my file to the new user. [13:47] problem started when I DEactivated [13:48] !patience | darktuxs [13:48] darktuxs: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/ [13:48] lordievader: My apologies. [13:48] darktuxs: Do you have read/write access to the other user's files? [13:49] lordievader: I think so. [13:49] darktuxs: Then it's a simple copy/move action, ain't it? [13:51] lordievader: I'm trying to remember the commands to do so. [13:51] darktuxs: mv for move and cp for copy ;) [13:52] lordievader: Eep .___. that was going to be my first attempt lol. [13:52] thanks ^__^ [13:52] darktuxs: Also see "man mv" and "man cp". [13:53] ok I think I may have made progress... [13:53] I plugged the ATI card back in and I get a desktop on that [13:53] flashing cursor only on nvidia screen [13:54] nvidia screens no longer show in display config [13:54] maybe I need to reinstall open src nv driver? [13:56] any ideas on how i would do that? [13:57] evilC: Remove the closed source driver: dpkg --get-selections|grep nvidia, those are the packges that need to be removed. === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57` [13:59] lordievader: Thanks! Hey? sorry to be a bother. I want to make this easier and I tried researching it [14:00] lordievader: Instead that long process. How can I change the username of my account, not the host name? [14:00] say libkwinnvidiahack4 as deinstall, nvidia-319-updates, nvidia-common, nvidia-settings-319-updates all listed as "install" [14:00] so remove the 3 listed as install? [14:00] evilC: Yes. [14:01] darktuxs: Euhmm check the Usermanager in System Settings, honestly no idea. Never done such a thing. [14:01] lordievader: Okay, sir. [14:01] ok, done [14:02] reboot? [14:02] evilC: Yes. And hopefully X starts. [14:03] success!! thankyou === Bryan is now known as Guest91769 [14:21] <[Ethos]> :> [14:21] <[Ethos]> hello [14:22] Well thanks lordievader - I finally have a working system again, and with the help of rog in that post have the old task manager back from raring [14:22] both of you are total heroes! [14:24] <[Ethos]> does Netflix app for Ubuntu work on Kubuntu as well? :> [14:24] <[Ethos]> don't feel like doing a trial and error. === Steakanbake is now known as Steakanbake|slee [14:27] [Ethos]: there's no reason it shouldn't, the only difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu is the default GUI [14:27] <[Ethos]> tsimpson: ok, thanks. [14:27] <[Ethos]> gonna give it a try now [14:31] evilC: No problem ;) [14:31] evilC: Have fun ;) [14:32] oh for that it were for fun... unfortunately all this dicking around was stopping me from earning a crust === a is now known as Guest23289 [14:36] can someone tell me if I need kde wallet manager? Does it store passwords for chrome? This popup every boot is annoying, I was wondering if I can disable the wallet manager [14:42] <[Ethos]> evilC: you should remove the wallet, if you don't need extra security [14:42] <[Ethos]> you shouldn't have set the password, when it asked [14:42] <[Ethos]> it will ask you enter password twice now, but from homedirectory, erase the kwallet folder [14:46] you can just reset the password to blank [14:46] less secure, but still keeps usefulness === soul is now known as Guest24784 [14:55] <[Ethos]> how do I establish a channel [14:55] <[Ethos]> I want to invite people to my channel [14:55] <[Ethos]> heh [14:55] [Ethos]: /join ##yourchannelname [14:56] <[Ethos]> now I want to register it [14:56] [Ethos]: http://blog.freenode.net/2008/04/registering-a-channel-on-freenode/ [14:57] or just /msg chanserv help [14:58] thankyou, blank password worked [15:07] <[Ethos]> genii: thanks. [15:07] <[Ethos]> jack-: Thanks. === Steakanbake|slee is now known as Steakanbake [15:07] hi 12.04 failed on a new machine due to graphics drivers. now trying to install 13.04 which has better drivers. then it failed too, gub-dummz fatal. what to do now? [15:07] *grub-dummy === nettop is now known as quassel156 === pesa is now known as Guest41043 === spawn57` is now known as spawn[dead] === Steakanbake is now known as Steakanbake|slee [17:12] worr [17:16] hello everyone, each time I want to start the muon update program it crashes [17:19] http://pastebin.kde.org/puhgto984 === Guest74684 is now known as chaudhary === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off === Steakanbake|slee is now known as Steakanbake [17:28] my bluetooth icon does not appear in my system setting anymore [17:28] on my 13.04 install === Bryan is now known as Guest14765 [17:44] hi, if I login, my screen turns black and puts me on the login screen again [17:44] I'm on 13.04, how to diagnose? [17:44] AFAICT from /var/log/Xorg.0.log X doesn't crash [17:51] from /var/log/syslog I gather it might be a pulseaudio problem [17:59] hmm, now I have the guest account working, so I'm thinking configuration and renamed ~/.config to ~/.config_old but still nothing === johan is now known as Guest28646 === michael is now known as Guest88245 === tommy__ is now known as sfcschulz === sfcschulz is now known as sschulz === sschulz is now known as sgtschulz === sgtschulz is now known as sschulz === sschulz is now known as sgtschulz [18:20] Bootvis: You where probably aiming for .kde <- is where the kde config files live. [18:23] erm, good point [18:24] also getting some updates to, amongst others, lightdm [18:28] thanks lordievader, that's it [18:28] much better than setting up a new user [18:30] fixed! [18:31] Bootvis: Good to hear :) [18:34] should I put a bug report somewhere? I don't really have an idea what went wrong [18:35] <[Ethos]> kubuntu.com [18:35] Bootvis: Have you been playing with settings? [18:35] Bootvis: I'm not really sure if this is a bug or an unsupported setting. [18:37] <[Ethos]> Isn't there a channel on freenode to report bugs for Kubuntu? [18:38] [Ethos]: IRC is not a good medium for bug reports. [18:38] !bug| [Ethos] [18:38] [Ethos]: If you find a bug in Kubuntu, please follow the instructions at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting to report the issue to the developers. [18:38] <[Ethos]> thanks [18:41] <[Ethos]> how do I configure default gdm with startx [18:42] <[Ethos]> I'm running Ubuntu Server,but I have gnome, kde, xubuntu all [18:42] <[Ethos]> desktops, including ubuntustudio [18:43] [Ethos]: Gdm hasn't been used since, what, 11.04? Besides that is more a topic for #ubuntu. [18:43] <[Ethos]> well right now it defaults to kde environment [18:43] <[Ethos]> lightgdm is for setting kde? [18:44] [Ethos]: Lightdm is currently the default display manager for both Kubuntu and Ubuntu, to start it simply time "sudo service lightdm start" if it doesn't start automatically. [18:45] <[Ethos]> lordievader: thanks. [18:45] <[Ethos]> I do not want to start it automatically, just wish to select default desktop enviornment [18:46] [Ethos]: I rarely do anything with startx, I know it looks to xsession for the default. But that is about all I know of startx. [18:47] The display manager usually shows whatever was selected last time as the default [18:48] <[Ethos]> ok I see [18:48] <[Ethos]> when I get the login screen, I select the default desktop [18:49] <[Ethos]> on startx [18:49] <[Ethos]> since its on a server I didn't want to start it by default [18:50] [Ethos]: The way I do it, is comment the "start on" lines in /etc/init/lightdm.conf. That way it doesn't start automatically but I can start it with "sudo service lightdm start" [18:51] <[Ethos]> lordievader: Thanks Again. :> [18:53] * genii ponders echo "ENABLED=0" | sudo tee -a /etc/default/lightdm [18:53] genii, can I loop apt-get update multiple times [18:54] MangaKaDenza: I'm not sure your question makes sense yet [18:54] I wanna run it for infinity [18:54] genii: That's probably easier, thanks for the tip. [18:57] you can "echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/lightdm.override" === Bryan is now known as Guest17520 [18:57] that way it'll only start explicitly with "sudo service lightdm start" [18:57] lordievader: no never touch them [18:58] Bootvis: What? Touch whom? [18:59] tsimpson: Oh, nice! [18:59] the settings [19:00] Bootvis: As genii and tsimpson offer much simpler solutions I'd go with one of those. [19:03] lordievader: that does not apply to me, does it? [19:03] Bootvis: Oh sorry. It does not indeed. [19:04] Bootvis: Did the blackscreen login happen after an update? [19:06] MangaKaDenza: Technically it's possible to make apt-get update run in some infinite loop. But there is no good reason to do this, the main one being that it will lock the /var/lib/dpkg/lock file permanently. [19:06] You will never be able to run the GUI package installer, etc [19:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1246016 [19:08] Ubuntu bug 1246016 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "After login the login manager is shown again" [Undecided,New] [19:08] lordievader: I remember again (I booted to Windows for a while) it happenend after a kernel update [19:10] Bootvis: The seond time it appears is loggin in successful, or does it continually dump back to lightdm? Because this is symptomatic of improper permissions in home dir [19:10] Bootvis: Make sure you mention that you are using Kubuntu, also add the latest entries from /var/log/apt/history [19:10] it goes back === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler [19:13] Bootvis: I would suggest then to check the permissions of files the user's home directory. Possibly they got changed accidentally ( for instance by running startx as root there or such) [19:16] find . -name "*" -type d -print0 | xargs -0 ls -l | grep root [19:16] doesn't give anything interesting [19:18] Bootvis: If you: sudo adduser then try login to that account, does it work? [19:18] genii: For as far as I know is Bootvis's problem solved, he moved/removed his .kde folder. [19:18] yes, it works [19:19] made the bug report, unfortunately it is very vague :( [19:19] Bootvis: Then the issue is not with lightdm, but someplace in the home directory ( if the .kde dir was moved/renamed and then it worked, was in there someplace) [19:20] This can happen if there were settings which no longer apply, like an app was open in a saved session and the app got removed or such. === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off [19:22] ah ok [19:24] leave === jack_ is now known as jack__ [19:26] Hello im desperate: I need to do some work due tomorrow, where i need some simple OpenGl Using freeglut. I have a simple program, but i get weird errors. See http://paste.debian.net/62844/. Can someone help me plz? [19:28] anubis: Might want to try the #opengl channel ( may be ##opengl instead, but one of those) === mint is now known as Guest53624 === Vito_ is now known as Vito [19:49] i so wish kubuntu-saucy.iso would contain an installer app for linux... [19:50]