[00:01] <roasted> darkxst: looks like someone already reported it - https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709853
[00:18] <bjsnider> roasted, told you it would be faster
[00:20] <roasted> bjsnider: indeed. I was just in denial and wanted to be a hip open source user and stick to nouveau :/
[00:22] <roasted> someday maybe
[00:25] <bjsnider> all you have to do to be a hip open source user is run all-intel
[00:27] <roasted> I was going to do that on this rig
[00:27] <roasted> but there was some sort of 24.384923923 fps bug I kept reading about with this gen hardware
[00:27] <roasted> so I threw in a GT440 I had on the shelf cause lol why not
[00:27] <roasted> I quite like nvidia tho, so it's k. It's ATI/AMD that I want to burn ever so badly./
[01:22] <bjsnider> roasted, what bug is this now?
[01:23] <roasted> bjsnider: you know when you get a new message, it pops up in the center?
[01:23] <roasted> then if you ignore it, it disappears?
[01:24] <roasted> after that, bring up the message tray and click on the icon for that user that sent you a message
[01:24] <roasted> the text box does not grab focus
[01:24] <roasted> so you must manually click via mouse to give that text box focus to type
[01:24] <bjsnider> what does that have to do with frame rates?
[01:24] <roasted> frame rate?
[01:24] <roasted> where did I mention frame rate?
[01:25] <bjsnider> but there was some sort of 24.384923923 fps bug I kept reading about with this gen hardware
[01:25] <roasted> ohhhhhh
[01:25] <roasted> in the original generation of sandy bridge or ivy bridge or something like that
[01:25] <roasted> there was some sort of fps issue with intel IGP's
[01:25] <roasted> http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2198726
[01:26] <roasted> 23.976 Hz that is
[01:26] <roasted> not fps
[01:26] <roasted> sorry my mind is in FPS alley tonight. Two people broke into my vehicles last night and I caught them on video surveillance, so I'm kind of mixed up right now as I talk to police.
[01:27] <bjsnider> what's there to talk about. the video should do the talking
[01:27] <bjsnider> btw, never keep anything of value in your car
[01:27] <roasted> I'm sending the cop 4 feeds, because I have some from different cameras in different angles
[01:27] <roasted> and my cams are dual stream. 1 fps 247 feed and 10 fps motion detect feed.
[01:27] <roasted> I was just trying to explain it to him in email so it wasn't confusing
[01:28] <roasted> and nothing of ours was stolen. It's just the fact that someone was in my stuff that enrages me.
[01:29] <roasted> should have had it locked but, whatever.
[01:29] <roasted> just bummed I didn't happen to be letting my dog out for a leak when I stumbled across those two upstanding gentlemen rummaging through my cars
[01:33] <bjsnider> maybe you could install a feature where if anyone but you touches the car it explodes
[01:33] <roasted> LOL
[01:33] <bjsnider> and not a trivial explosion, but something that would destroy 10 sqaure blocks
[01:34] <roasted> ...which would include my sleeping quarters
[01:34] <bjsnider> and make the area uninhabitable for 10 million years
[01:34] <bjsnider> there's a small chance that could be overkill
[01:35] <roasted> so basically, touch my crappycarthatshardlyworth500bucks and BAM chernobyl in Lancaster PA.
[01:35] <roasted> I like it
[01:36] <bjsnider> well, like r'as al ghul says in batman begins, crime cannot be tolerated
[07:35] <darkxst> ricotz, wip/js24 is rebased on master today, just js24 patches remaining
[07:38] <Feef> So hey
[07:38] <Feef> Question
[07:39] <Feef> Anyone able to help me with openvpn
[07:49] <darkxst> Feef, thats not really gnome related
[07:49] <darkxst> you might get more help in #ubuntu or similar
[08:04] <ricotz> darkxst, nice
[08:05] <ricotz> darkxst, i guess you should push wip/js24 branch for gnome-shell too
[08:06] <ricotz> darkxst, i think there was a conversion of a xml snippet missing, in the screenshield code irc
[08:06] <darkxst> ricotz, shell patches are here https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711052
[08:07] <ricotz> alright
[08:08] <darkxst> ricotz, in the e4x removal patches on master?
[08:09] <ricotz> darkxst, it is fine, that is the one i meant https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/diff/js/gdm/oVirt.js?id=b908a3d70af279caad71a7ad87a301621b08271f
[08:22] <ricotz> darkxst, will try to do some snapshots in the evening
[11:50] <ricotz> darkxst, great! looks like mozjs24-enabled 3.11-packages built and work as expected :)
[13:45] <TwistedMinds> Heya everyone. It,s been a while since I touched linux in any way.  Do you guys think it will go well if I add gnome-next/staging to try gnome 3.10 on ubuntu-gnome 13.10? ;)
[13:48] <TwistedMinds> I'm just a bit afraid since I'm not used to Ubuntu at all, used gentoo and slackware years ago (before gnome 3, early gnome 1) so I'm quite lost heh
[13:57] <TwistedMinds> I guess we'll see. Anyway great job to anyone working on this. It's way more user friendly than before. Gnome seems to have lost lots of options but it probably just moved somewhere else, I'll find what I need. Still X is a pain to configure if it doesn't autodetect correctly
[14:42] <roasted> What package would I file the bug against for brightness keys working in 3.8 but not 3.10? fyi brightness adjustment works fine via slider in the drop down menu in upper right corner, and other Fn keys (multimedia etc) work fine as well.
[16:26] <roasted> ricotz: question for you if you don't mind... Plank on eOS has a GUI to edit its settings. On other distros, such as Ubuntu GNOME, it does not. Are there any plans to add a GUI for non-eOS distros by chance?
[16:32] <ricotz> roasted, plank has no settings-gui at all, and is not suppose to get one, sorry
[16:32] <roasted> :(
[16:32] <roasted> plank with no settings or a monofied docky...
[17:23] <swiss> so does the trackpad-deactivation-while-typing actually work for anyone else?
[17:23] <swiss> it makes my cursor immediately disappear but it can still move while i'm typinig
[18:58] <gnoob1> hey kindly ubuntu gnome people... looking for some installation help, anyone?
[18:58] <gnoob1> (having bootloader trouble)
[18:59] <gnoob1> hey noskcaj
[18:59] <gnoob1> any chance you can help with a quick bootloader issue?
[19:00] <Noskcaj> gnoob1, I can try
[19:00] <gnoob1> thank you
[19:00] <gnoob1> so basically here is the deal:
[19:00] <gnoob1> I stepped through the 13.10 installer
[19:00] <gnoob1> my first time installing
[19:01] <gnoob1> resized the ntfs partition on my ssd, made a new one (ext4) mounted as /
[19:01] <gnoob1> mounted the other existing partitions as ntfs in different names
[19:01] <gnoob1> didn't allocate swap becasue I have 32gigs of ram
[19:01] <gnoob1> installer continued, all nice and fine
[19:01] <gnoob1> no errors, completed successfully
[19:01] <gnoob1> I reboot the computer... aaaaand nothing
[19:01] <gnoob1> Win8 comes up, just like that
[19:01] <gnoob1> no boot menu
[19:01] <gnoob1> and now I don't know what to do
[19:02] <gnoob1> I am not sure what I did wrong, and I want to fix it without having to reinstall again (because ubuntu is right there)
[19:05] <gnoob1> any idea?
[19:07] <bjsnider> try holding shift before boot
[19:07] <bjsnider> maybe grub selected windows as the default
[19:07] <bjsnider> but it sounds like no grub install is the issue
[19:07] <gnoob1> yeah exactly
[19:07] <gnoob1> that's what I think
[19:08] <gnoob1> I don't know how to install just grub and make it use the stuff I already have (Win8 + Ubuntu)
[19:09] <bjsnider> a real grub expert might be able to do it, but otherwise i suspect you'd just install a bootloader with nothing to boot
[19:09] <bjsnider> so you'd also ruin windows
[19:10] <gnoob1> definitely not something I would like to do...
[19:10] <gnoob1> I don't mind running through the Ubuntu Gnome installer again if needed, I am just not sure what to choose
[19:10] <bjsnider> maybe there's a grub channel. i doubt it has anything to do with gnome or this channel specifically
[19:10] <gnoob1> the question that's relevant to this channel:
[19:10] <bjsnider> windows has the startup repair recovery process though
[19:11] <gnoob1> with the installer, is there a simple way to dualboot Win8 + Ubuntu Gnome:
[19:11] <gnoob1> ?
[19:11] <gnoob1> or should I go Unity?
[19:11] <bjsnider> it's the same grub
[19:11] <gnoob1> right, but the Unity installer has a nice step for configuring dualboot
[19:11] <bjsnider> 6 of one half dozen of the other
[19:11] <gnoob1> which the Gnome one doesn't
[19:12] <bjsnider> it's a kernel that's being booted
[19:12] <bjsnider> you can install gnome afterwards
[19:12] <bjsnider> you just use the metapackage
[19:12] <bjsnider> if you're more confident in the ubuntu installer
[19:12] <gnoob1> metapackage?
[19:13] <bjsnider> an empty package that pulls in a lot of other packages
[19:13] <bjsnider> like ubuntu-desktop pulls in unity
[19:13] <gnoob1> ah, I see. Okay, thank you - that helps. Will go try my luck then!
[19:13] <bjsnider> and guess what ubuntu-gnome-desktop does?
[19:13] <TwistedMinds> I just ran the ubuntu gnome 13.10 installer and grub installed/configured itself correctly. Maybe it needs a separate /boot partition to install correctly? Just thinking I'm so outdated on linux
[20:46] <njalk> what would be minimum system requirements for ubuntu gnome?
[20:47] <darkxst> ricotz, :) btw shell patches are in master now
[20:47] <darkxst> ricotz, also there were a bunch of gjs rdepends affected by the E4X removal, gnome-docs, sushi, gnome-maps and a couple of others
[21:30] <ricotz> darkxst, great :)