[15:29] <alan_g> kgunn: what's the state of lp:mir? Can we safely MP the development branch today?
[15:30] <kgunn> didrocks: ^ sorry i was unable to follow up...were you guys able to pull into archive ?
[15:31] <alan_g> kdub: alf_ anyone for an easy review? https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/enable-unity-mir-to-avoid-SessionManager/+merge/193046
[15:32] <alf_> alan_g: looking
[15:33] <kdub> looks okay to me
[15:34] <alan_g> kdub: We do reviews on lp not on irc 8^)
[15:35] <kdub> what, we don't have an irc bot that helps with that yet? :P
[15:36] <alan_g> Would you trust a irc bot with your credentials?
[15:38] <kdub> eh, i guess not
[15:38] <kgunn> sil2100: do you happen to know if mir got updated in trusty yesterday
[15:40] <kgunn> greyback: btw, yes, my comment was your option4....but racarr 's comment confused me :) wrt whether or not the shell was "creating" surfaces
[15:41] <greyback> kgunn: ok
[15:53] <sil2100> kgunn: yes ;)
[15:53] <kgunn> sil2100: thanks....any notes or caveats ?
[15:53] <sil2100> kgunn: I saw it in trusty release today, even upgraded my device to it and did some testing
[15:57] <racarr> Morning
[15:57] <kgunn> racarr: mornin'
[15:58] <racarr> kgunn: Howdy! How goes Oakland?
[15:58] <kgunn> racarr: hey...if you want to come to the marriott at some point, i was pestering mterry (who's here) to try and get unityonmir running on the desktop
[15:58] <kgunn> he was struggling a little...and likely just needs a little mir help
[15:59] <kgunn> racarr: then i could buy you a beer :)
[16:01] <racarr> kgunn:  When? Later today? Tomorrow?
[16:02] <kgunn> racarr: today would be great...he was kind of fresh on it (he was looking last night)
[16:04] <racarr> Ok. I need to finish breakfast and stuff but should be able to head over around 10
[16:31] <racarr> kgunn: Same hotel right?
[16:31] <racarr> Oakland marriot city center
[16:31] <kgunn> right racarr
[16:31] <racarr> ok
[16:31] <racarr> its literally 25 minutes away so ill leave in 20 and be there soon :)
[16:37] <racarr> kgunn: So my in person consulting services are $300 for the first hour
[16:37] <racarr> and $200 for each following hour
[16:37] <racarr> am I billing you, or michael
[16:37] <racarr> :p
[16:37] <racarr> jk I am excited to leave the house
[16:39] <kgunn> racarr: :)
[16:39] <kgunn> racarr: i may go m.i.a. this afternoon
[16:39] <kgunn> racarr: but would love you to come tomorrow as well
[16:40] <racarr> kgunn: I heard :p I google calendar stalk you so I know what's up
[16:40] <racarr> you have a whole collection of fun meetings looking forward to hearing about them
[16:52] <racarr> ok brt
[21:57] <Mirv> robert_ancell_: hi just in case, not sure if you were pinged on bug #1245958 but now you are :) kdub is at least looking at it but had some device problems.
[21:58] <Mirv> (you're listed as the contact for mir stack at https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dHFtUmlPOUtCRk8zR2dtaEpIbUVhMmc#gid=3)
[21:58] <robert_ancell_> Mirv, I'll update that
[21:58] <Mirv> thanks
[21:59] <robert_ancell_> Mirv, I can't edit that but I've shifted teams, so escalate to kgunn
[22:00] <Mirv> robert_ancell_: oh of course you have, sorry :) but can you think of someone else to put in there besides kevin who is already in the other column?
[22:00] <Mirv> the idea is that first there's the contact person and then if needed an escalator
[22:00] <Mirv> maybe a list of people
[22:00] <robert_ancell_> Mirv, I don't know who Kevin has in mind, but just asking on #ubuntu-mir is probably the best step at the moment
[22:01] <Mirv> robert_ancell_: ok changed that, it's at least better than having you there
[22:14] <racarr> kdub: Happen to know anything about...
[22:15] <racarr> ok well the set up is, one host mir_demo_server_basic
[22:15] <racarr> then run a nested mir_demo_server_shell with an eglclient
[22:15] <racarr> then run a second nested mir demo server shell with a second egl client
[22:15] <racarr> and the first server dies with something about bad file descriptor
[22:16] <racarr> err
[22:16] <racarr> the first nested
[22:16] <racarr> server
[22:16] <racarr> the second server and the host server continue to function
[22:16] <kdub> it does?
[22:17] <kdub> seems something should die somewhere in that scenario
[22:18] <kdub> Mirv, what's the magic incantation for phablet-flash to get trusty image #8? whatever i just did gave me image #5
[22:18] <Mirv> kdub: --channel trusty-proposed
[22:18] <kdub> groan
[22:19] <kdub> all these channels :)
[22:19] <Mirv> yeah took a while for me too, since there's no list command. but I peeked it from here then https://system-image.ubuntu.com/
[22:19] <kdub> Mirv, thanks then
[22:19] <Mirv> np
[22:21] <kdub> racarr, is that causing problems? the second nested server continuing
[22:30] <racarr> kdub: ? Why should something die
[22:30] <racarr> I mean the first nested does die
[22:30] <racarr> but that's the bug
[22:31] <kdub> racarr, i thought you meant the bug was that the 2nd one continues
[22:31] <racarr> oh no I mean
[22:31] <racarr> the secnod one continues which is correct right
[22:31] <racarr> but why dont they both
[22:33] <kdub> and the cause of the 1st server dying is which client connecting? (1st server egl client, the 2nd server, or the 2nd server's egl client)
[22:34] <racarr> I should figure that out
[22:34] <racarr> it's either
[22:34] <racarr> the 2nd server or the 2nd server egl client
[22:34] <racarr> you can observe the first server and client working
[22:34] <racarr> until you run the second one and then they die
[22:34] <racarr> and you can observe the second one working
[22:35] <racarr> checking...
[22:36] <kdub> racarr, also, any logs/messages?
[22:42] <racarr> kdub: It appears to be when the second nested client connects
[22:43] <racarr> though it seems like there may be a few things that can happen,i.e. sometimes the second nested client works and the first dies, sometimes both die
[22:43] <racarr> just a bad file descriptor exception with no location from
[22:43] <racarr> the one that dies
[22:44] <racarr> if it doesnt ring any bells off the top of your head dont worry too much, still lots of basic debugging to do
[22:44] <kdub> racarr, yeah, none ring immediately
[22:53] <racarr> kdub: oh it may actually be when the second client exits the first client dies lol
[22:53] <racarr> I thought it was happening all at once because you immediately can't see the second client
[22:53] <racarr> but also
[22:53] <racarr> mir server doesnt end up with
[22:53] <racarr> a transparent background
[22:53] <racarr> so opacity doesnt work