[00:25] <hispeed67> ehlo?
[00:27] <hispeed67> awful quiet in here...
[00:27] <jkitchen> 220 OK
[00:37] <hispeed67> after i get system installed, what is easiest way to image to a flash drive? dd if=/dev/sda3 of=sda3.bak
[00:37] <hispeed67> or, does of have to go to a device?
[00:38] <sarnold> both if= and of= can be regular files, devices, pipes, etc.
[00:38] <hispeed67> so, i could mount the flash drive and dd to a file on the flash drive?
[00:39] <sarnold> yeah, you've got a few options. you could dd to a file on the drive, or you could dd on top of a partition or you could dd on top of the whole device. each can be right depending upon your goals..
[00:41] <hispeed67> woohoo, install complete, rebooting.. :)
[00:41] <hispeed67> looking at clonezilla, maybe amanda, definitely zmanda as i need sql database
[00:45] <hispeed67> it worked!!! it worked!!!! i gotz X and wlan0 !! ibd
[01:28] <hispeed67> upgrade to 13.04 will d/l 558M and take about 6 minutes. :)
[01:34] <hispeed67> done
[02:11] <sarnold> smoser: hey, I'm trying to use http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smoser/maas/maas-pkg-test/view/head:/maas-precise-1.2.txt to test maas on canonistack
[02:12] <sarnold> smoser: I start up the nested vm with xkvm on line 167 .. and can't figure out what username / password to use to to log into the new node
[02:12] <sarnold> smoser: where have I neglected looking? :) thanks
[04:15] <MavKen> what packages do people typically install to secure their server?
[04:19] <badunkadunk> join #vmware
[04:22] <hispeed67> MavKen: selinux
[04:24] <andol> hispeed67: No fan apparmor? Running both at the same time seem a bit over the top? :)
[04:26] <andol> MavKen: Also, security really isn't a separate black bax you can just attach to your system, it's all about having a good complete understanding of the services and the code you run.
[04:26] <MavKen> true
[04:27] <MavKen> my next project is getting php mail to work so that drupal can send out e-mail
[05:33] <xtriz> which vnc server is recommended to be used by ubuntu ?
[05:47] <hispeed764> is it ok to discuss security in this channel?
[05:52] <hispeed764> what software is used to create raid arrays?
[06:04] <melmoth> hispeed764, mdadm ?
[09:52] <reffcap09> hello all
[09:52] <reffcap09> i was wondering does anyone know much about wineasio
[09:53] <reffcap09> anyone here
[11:38] <Patero-ng> how do I specify a specific dhcpcd server to assign my ip
[11:53] <tjaalton> jamespage: hey, are you planning to merge samba from sid? it's now based on 4.0.x
[11:54] <jamespage> tjaalton, I spotted but I've not had time yet to look at it
[11:54] <jamespage> but yes that would be the plan
[11:54] <tjaalton> cool, that would make it much easier to get sssd in main
[11:55] <tjaalton> since some of the build-deps are now from samba4
[11:55] <tjaalton> which will then get removed from universe
[11:55] <tjaalton> once samba is merged
[12:16] <tjaalton> jamespage: mind if I assign the samba task of this sssd MIR bug to you?
[12:16] <tjaalton> no rush getting it in trusty
[12:16] <tjaalton> just so that it's tracked somewhere
[12:39] <smoser> sarnold, well, you probably can't log in with a password. it'd be ssh auth only.
[12:40] <smoser> i'd recommend the virtual maas charm though
[12:40] <smoser>   ext-int: eth0
[12:40] <smoser>   dns-server: $nameserver
[12:40] <smoser> EOF
[12:40] <smoser> oops
[12:40] <smoser> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~virtual-maasers/charms/precise/virtual-maas/trunk/view/head:/README-nojuju.txt
[12:46] <mbnoimi> How can I get the used port of OpenLDAP server?
[12:54] <pmatulis_> mbnoimi: what do you mean by "used port".  slapd can listen on more than one (389, 636)
[13:12] <mbnoimi> pmatulis_: during installing OpenLDAP it used by default the port 389 but I'm not sure what if my server use it or not
[13:22] <pmatulis_> mbnoimi: try to connect to (or scan) the daemon's port with netcat or nmap.  can also use lsof or netstat to see what your host is listening on
[13:24] <pmatulis_> mbnoimi: 'ps ax | grep slapd' will show you the port it is supposed to be listening on, maybe that's enough for you (ldap:/// ldapi:/// ldaps:/// means, respectively, 389, local socket, 636)
[13:24] <pmatulis_> mbnoimi: note that 636 is deprecated
[13:25] <mbnoimi> pmatulis_: Oops I got
[13:25] <mbnoimi> 968 ?        Ssl    0:00 /usr/sbin/slapd -h ldap:/// ldapi:/// -g openldap -u openldap -F /etc/ldap/slapd.d
[13:25] <mbnoimi> 2484 pts/2    S+     0:00 grep --colour=auto slapd
[13:25] <pmatulis_> mbnoimi: looks good, 389
[13:26] <mbnoimi> pmatulis_: where you saw 389?
[13:26] <pmatulis_> mbnoimi: i told you already.  'ldap:///' == 389
[13:27] <mbnoimi> pmatulis_: Thanks a lot :)
[13:27] <pmatulis_> mbnoimi: yw
[13:42] <raub> Is it possible to upgrade a 11.10 server to 12.04 using the 12.04 server iso?
[13:47] <hispeed76> gmorning all
[13:47] <hispeed76> what is better channel for questions about setting up apache
[14:35] <xgeek-cub> hello guys
[14:36] <xgeek-cub> I am installing ubuntu server on my vps (ESXI); and it asks me if i want to encrypt my home directory
[14:36] <xgeek-cub> Should I do that?
[14:36] <jrwren> no
[14:37] <jrwren> ultimately it is your choice. IMO it has no place on a server. There are some gotchas to encrypted homedir.
[14:38] <jemurray> Not if you use ssh / sshkeys... Then it gets trickey.
[14:39] <xgeek-cub> what about setting up partitions
[14:40] <jemurray> in what regards?
[14:40] <xgeek-cub> guided ---set up encrypted LVM
[14:40] <esde> On a fresh install of server 12.04 64-bit, i ran update, upgrade, then dist-upgrade. Then i installed php5 and it's dependencies, and added the percona source to my sources and installed percona-server-client-5.5 percona-server-server-5.5 and libmysqlclient-dev. Then I see this error http://pastebin.com/PKaKkkr2 when trying to run a script dealing with php and mysql, what can I do to resolve this? I found this stackoverflow post but I'm not sure how
[14:40] <esde> to do the steps indicated.
[14:40] <jemurray> xgeek-cub: encryption is up to you.   What is the chance of hardware theft on a server?   That is when you want to use encryption.
[14:41] <esde> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10759334/headers-and-client-library-minor-version-mismatch forgot link to stackoverflow post
[14:42] <xgeek-cub> jemurray: oh; that what is for; ok so tell me this for vps on esxi do i go with normal partition type or LVM?
[14:42] <smoser> hallyn, https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/config-local.html
[14:42] <smoser> why does that say "Due to needing newer versions of LXC the local provider does require a newer kernel than the released version of 12.04"
[14:43] <smoser> my experience indicates that is "hog wash"
[14:43] <jemurray> xgeek-cub: Again, this depends on what you want for a server.   If you may need to grow partitions in the future LVM is the way to go.   For me, I do not want to extra complexity on my production servers so I don't use LVM.
[14:50] <hallyn> smoser: yeah, I don't know.  My main test box has 12.04 (3.2, not hwe) kernel and does fine
[14:51] <hallyn> only thing i can think is they want lxc-attach
[14:51] <MavKen> I just installed 13.10 on my vps... are there any issues with sendmail?
[14:57] <jemurray> MavKen: Such as?
[14:58] <MavKen> I have drupal and I need it to send out e-mail confirms and password reset e-mails... is sendmail the best approach?
[14:58] <MavKen> or easiest
[14:59] <smoser> hallyn, no obvious answers in juju-dev either.
[14:59] <MavKen> jemurray, would you recommend using sendmail for this purpose or something else?
[15:00] <jemurray> I personally have used postfix and sendmail both...   Ubuntu recommends postfix as the default MTA.
[15:00] <jemurray> MavKen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[15:01] <MavKen> I tried postfix but the e-mails sent out my drupal were going directly to spam folder with gmail, yahoo and outlook.com
[15:01] <jemurray> On my production servers that do basic outbound mail like you stated, I use postfix very simple to setup.
[15:01] <jemurray> Can you tell why?   Make sure you DNS is setup properly.   Make sure the From: line is a valid return address.
[15:01] <hallyn> tjaalton: hi.  could you take a look at http://people.canonical.com/~serge/xserver-qxl-spice.debdiff (generated from https://launchpad.net/~9v-shaun-42/+archive/xspice/+files/xserver-xorg-video-qxl_0.1.0-0ubuntu3ppa%7Eraring.dsc) ?
[15:02] <hallyn> tjaalton: with that, we get a Xspice executable thtat we can use like a vncserver, but using spice
[15:02] <jemurray> MavKen: The choice of mail server should have nothing to do with people flagging your email as spam.
[15:02] <hallyn> would be terribly useful for containers, and heck just for remote desktops
[15:03] <MavKen> I have 5 different, unrelated domains on my vps... Can postfix work with more than one domain on the same server?
[15:04] <jemurray> MavKen: Yes, I have dozens of domains on my servers.   It will default to the server name as the default From: address if you don't specify.   In theory this should work for you.
[15:05] <esde> Can someone please help me with the version mismatch issue?
[15:05] <MavKen> so does drupal set the from address? (maybe a question for drupal channel)
[15:06] <jemurray> MavKen: I can't answer that, I don't know for sure.
[15:08] <jemurray> MavKen: http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html - There is a section on default domain.
[15:08] <tjaalton> hallyn: so the diff is backwards?
[15:09] <hallyn> tjaalton: oh yeah, probably
[15:10] <MavKen> jemurray, thanks, setting up postfix now
[15:11] <tjaalton> hallyn: so, yeah I'll merge something like that and release
[15:11] <tjaalton> to trusty
[15:13] <hallyn> tjaalton: awesome!  thanks!
[15:13] <tjaalton> to debian git first and then merge
[15:14] <tjaalton> oh it was enabled there already
[15:15] <hallyn> oh??  I thought during breakfast i should check that but figured "no way"
[15:15] <hallyn> even more awesome
[15:16] <esde> On a fresh install of server 12.04 64-bit, i ran update, upgrade, then dist-upgrade. Then i installed php5 and it's dependencies, and added the percona source to my sources and installed percona-server-client-5.5 percona-server-server-5.5 and libmysqlclient-dev. Then I see this error http://pastebin.com/PKaKkkr2 when trying to run a script dealing with php and mysql, what can I do to resolve this? I found this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10759
[15:16] <esde> 334/headers-and-client-library-minor-version-mismatch but I'm not sure how to do the steps indicated.
[15:22] <tjaalton> hallyn: libspice-server-dev used to be in universe, so xserver-spice support was removed in ubuntu
[15:23] <hallyn> tjaalton: right, i think raring is when that changed
[15:24] <hallyn> i would've said something sooner if i knew the xspice executable existed :)
[15:24] <tjaalton> heh, sure. and we didn't even rebuild it for 1.14, boo
[15:34] <MavKen> jemurray, I have setup in postfix config that my server is mail.domain.com.... Do I need to add anything to my DNS?
[15:35] <tjaalton> hallyn: uploaded
[15:36] <jemurray> MavKen: Most important is to make sure a forward and reverse DNS entry exist and that they are consistant.
[15:36] <hallyn> tjaalton: thanks!
[15:36] <MavKen> what does that mean?
[15:37] <jemurray> MavKen: For example: mail.domain.com = 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.1 = mail.domain.com
[15:38] <MavKen> what is 10.0.0.1?
[15:41] <jemurray> MavKen: That was just an example... Here is my test config: http://pastebin.com/PsystLGr
[15:44] <MavKen> hmm... im currently using google mx for e-mail forwarding...am i going to have to change those mx records to my server?
[15:47] <jemurray> MavKen: No.   You can ignore that part.
[15:47] <MavKen> ok
[15:47] <jemurray> In my case the server is also the MX for inbound.  Yours is only outbound.
[15:47] <jemurray> Just make sure the forward and reverse are in sync like in my example.
[15:47] <MavKen> ok, so I don't need to change anything on my dns?
[15:58] <smoser> hallyn, wrt "old kernel sucks for lxc"
[15:58] <smoser> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/docker-user/txAd5BiVapU/AfXvssMqkr4J
[15:58] <smoser> thats what hazmat pointed me at
[15:59] <smoser> (which, imo doesn't seem to justify someone upgrading their kernel)
[16:01] <hallyn> smoser: huh?  aufs is in precise...
[16:01] <smoser> yeah, bad link. its above that.
[16:01] <hallyn> yup it's there
[16:01] <hallyn> oh
[16:01] <smoser> the overal thread is wrt network performance of veth
[16:02] <smoser> "containers network performance"
[16:06] <arosales> zul, are you on deck today for the server meeting?
[16:06] <zul> arosales: yes we are having the meeting right now
[16:07] <arosales> zul, cool thanks.
[16:07]  * arosales will join there
[16:17] <xgeek-cub> the partition /boot should have the bootable flag; right?
[16:18] <jemurray> xgeek-cub: Does not matter on modern hardware.
[16:18] <xgeek-cub> jemurray: it is off ; and i am on ESXI
[16:21] <jemurray> xgeek-cub: GRUB should be installed in the MBR and it will just work no matter how that is setup.
[16:44] <MavKen> any of you familiar with sendmail?  I just installed it, sent out mail from php script and it goes directly to spam folder on receiving end
[16:48] <patdk-wk> just installing software != properly configured server
[16:49] <patdk-wk> and none of it really has to do anything with sendmail
[16:55] <MavKen> my php script has header from kenny@domain.com but header in gmail shows the from address as www-data@localhost
[16:56] <sarnold> MavKen: antispam these days is pretty complicated. you need to ensure the MTA is configured properly (not open relay, etc.), ought to configure spf and/or dkim; look around for e.g. what google does to filter mail, and make sure you're on the good side of all that.
[16:57] <MavKen> but if i set my header with a from address, why does the header on the receiving end show that it is from www-data@localhost?
[16:57] <patdk-wk> what does the headers have to do with the from address? nothing
[16:57] <patdk-wk> more important is your ip address and dns
[16:58] <patdk-wk> after that, helo name
[16:58] <patdk-wk> after that spf/dkim
[16:59] <xpistos> Hi all. When I try to look at one of my network shares it lets me drop into the dir, but does not show me my files. I can verify the server is up but when I try to mount -a I get an error that says mount.nfs: mount system call failed
[17:13] <sarnold> xpistos: it's easy to get a directory that you can 'cd' into but not use 'ls' -- if you give the directory execute permission but not read permission
[17:15] <xpistos> sarnold: I can see in the dir, but my files are there. it is like it is grabbing a "folder" from the drive not the mounted shared drive
[17:16] <err-or_> hi, short question. what would you recommend? drbd + corosync + pacemaker + lvm or just drbd + haproxy on my firewall?
[17:16] <xpistos> Here is an easier issue. why, when I am using vnc does my terminal window close when I press the letter "d"
[17:17] <err-or_> vnc on a server?
[17:17] <sarnold> xpistos: you may have a 'stuck' control key, either physically or somewhere in the protocol. ^D is the usual way to ask the shell/terminal to terminate
[17:17] <xgeek-cub> I just installed my ubuntu server via Vsphere console; now i want to ssh to it ; it is easier that way; is it any Howto available to setup SSH on my VPS
[17:18] <err-or_> xgeek-cub: you only need to install openssh-server on the virtual host, anbd make sure you can route to it on port 22
[17:19] <xpistos> sarnold: might be the protocal but not sure how to fix that
[17:19] <sarnold> xgeek-cub: it'd also be a good idea to set up authorized_keys for it and then turn off password support. you don't need to let the world brute force passwords...
[17:19] <xgeek-cub> err-or_: i had the same problem before; I am kinda new to ssh; i know I should edit a couple of lines but no clue to which
[17:19] <sarnold> xpistos: no, me neither, but hopefully fiddling with the keyboard control keys will reset it, at least for one connection..?
[17:22] <xpistos> Well i have narrowed that down to the "d" key is toggleing to show desktop
[17:23] <sarnold> ha
[17:23] <sarnold> that'll teach me a lesson. not sure what..
[17:25] <esde> On a fresh install of server 12.04 64-bit, i ran update, upgrade, then dist-upgrade. Then i installed php5 and it's dependencies, and added the percona source to my sources and installed percona-server-client-5.5 percona-server-server-5.5 and libmysqlclient-dev. Then I see this error http://pastebin.com/PKaKkkr2 when trying to run a script dealing with php and mysql, what can I do to resolve this? I found this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10759
[17:25] <esde> 334/headers-and-client-library-minor-version-mismatch but I'm not sure how to do the steps indicated.
[17:26] <sarnold> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10759334/headers-and-client-library-minor-version-mismatch
[17:28] <patdk-wk> hehe, conflicting percona libmysqlclient and ubuntu libmysqlclient are always fun
[17:28] <xpistos> YEAH! I was able to change it to ctrl+d and now I can type d's small victory
[17:28] <patdk-wk> generally best, don't install from source, it causes issues
[17:28] <esde> The issue was how i installed percona?
[17:29] <patdk-wk> yep
[17:29] <sarnold> patdk-wk: I don't think esde installed from source..
[17:29] <patdk-wk> your percona mysql libmysqlclient isn't the same as your php5 libmysqlclient
[17:29] <patdk-wk> sarnold, he just said he did
[17:30] <patdk-wk> installed percona-mysql-server-5.5 source
[17:30] <sarnold> patdk-wk: I think ".. to my sources" meant /etc/apt/sources.list  ...
[17:30] <patdk-wk> heh
[17:30] <esde> I did this to install eprcona
[17:31] <esde> *percona http://pastebin.com/mBwBsK9t
[17:32] <patdk-wk> there isn't going be a fix for that
[17:32] <patdk-wk> unless you want to recompile php against percona-mysql
[17:32] <patdk-wk> I never have that issue, cause I use dedicated mysql servers, so php is on a different server without percona on it
[17:32] <esde> I'm just puzzled because the first time I setup the project, I followed the same steps and didn't get this error.
[17:33] <patdk-wk> it depends
[17:33] <patdk-wk> sometimes percona and ubuntu mysql match versions
[17:33] <patdk-wk> sometimes they don't
[17:34] <esde> Ok. Is there any way to tell if it's doing any damage?
[17:34] <esde> Right now I just see an error, but everything seems to be working fine otherwise
[17:36] <sarnold> tough to say. if they didn't change anything in the ABI, it'll run fine without further issue. but if they did change some aspect of the ABI, it might fail in fairly subtle ways very infrequently.
[17:36] <patdk-wk> it shouldn't be an issue
[17:36] <patdk-wk> it's more of an issue going between mysql versions, like 5.0 or 5.1 to 5.5
[17:37] <patdk-wk> but both are 5.5, and almost the same subversion
[17:37] <esde> Great, thank you for your help :)
[17:37] <sarnold> esde: I have faith that the percona guys wouldn't break ABI with a minor version update but I'm less certain about the mysql guys. :) hehe.
[18:15] <MavKen> can you have more than one domain on spf record?
[18:47] <hispeed76> how can i find out what disks are attached? i.e. i have /dev/sda-/dev/sdf, just attached an external drive, dmesg shows some stuff, but no /dev/sdg
[18:48] <hispeed76> sda and sdb are internal disks, sdc/sdd/sde/sdf are /dev/md0 just attached an external terabyte drive and it isn't showing up at /dev/sdg
[18:49] <_root_> hello again
[18:50] <_root_> i want to install freenx on 13.10
[18:50] <_root_> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:freenx-team
[18:50] <_root_> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/freenx-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[18:50] <_root_> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/freenx-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[18:51] <_root_> what is wrong?
[18:52] <hispeed76> was the hub, nevermind
[18:53] <Phog> does mdadm have any sort of caching capability with SSD's similar to zfs?
[18:54] <xnox> Phog: yes.
[18:54] <xnox> Phog: google for dm-cache
[18:54] <Phog> was trying to decide between zfs or ext4
[18:54] <Phog> for a hybrid vm shared storage and general file storage
[18:56] <Phog> is it pretty slick
[19:00] <mgw> What would cause kworker procs to accumulate?
[19:03] <jrwren> _root_: not a supported ubuntu version. see: https://launchpad.net/~freenx-team/+archive/ppa
[19:06] <_root_> jrwren, where is exactly source.list located? in my machine?
[19:07] <Phog> another question, what about RAM
[19:07] <Phog> does ubuntu have something similar to the ARC
[19:09] <jrwren> _root_: yes, apt-add-repository adds a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[19:09] <jrwren> Phog: if you mean auto reference counting that has nothing to do with an OS. That is a programming language feature of objective-C
[19:10] <Phog> sorry
[19:10] <Phog> i meant the ARC cache in ZFS
[19:10] <Phog> uses memory for caching
[19:10] <jrwren> ha! I obviously know nothing about ZFS :)
[19:10] <Phog> having trouble deciding on the best OS/file system for my home lab
[19:11] <Phog> torn between ubuntu/ext4 and solaris/zfs
[19:12] <jrwren> have you considered ubuntu/btrfs
[19:12] <jrwren> IMO solaris is always the wrong choice.
[19:12] <jrwren> You'd have to pay me huge $$$$ to even consider dealing with solaris.
[19:12] <Phog> i've read some
[19:13] <Phog> from what i've read btrfs still super new
[19:13] <Phog> unstable?
[19:13] <jrwren> i don't care how good ZFS is. Its not worth the rest of solaris.
[19:13] <jrwren> i've no idea. sounds like you considered it and that is good.
[19:13] <Phog> i don't know a lot about it
[19:14] <Phog> and I *think* it benchmarks slower
[19:18] <Phog> yeah, im a solaris noob
[19:18] <Phog> it sure isn't easy
[19:20] <gyre007> what Disk encryption would you guys recommend...after doing a tad of research Imthinking LUKS looks like a good candidate
[19:21] <_root_> pphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6325791/ any idea how to fix that line 2-6
[19:22] <jrwren> Phog: i've spent enough time in solaris in my life to never want to do it again. :)
[19:24] <Phog> i had being so indecisive
[19:24] <Phog> *hate
[20:57] <CreativeEmbassy> Hopefully a basic question: Is there a way to install ubuntu server 13.10 from netboot? I already have netboot running, but I can't tell which version of Ubuntu it's going to install.
[20:58] <CreativeEmbassy> And if it installs Ubuntu desktop, is there a way to convert it to ubuntu server? I mostly just want to get a small cloud going at the hackerspace here. Not used to sysadmining.
[20:58] <_KaszpiR_> just install server?
[20:58] <_KaszpiR_> minimum number of services
[21:01] <_KaszpiR_> CreativeEmbassy try cat /etc/lsb-release
[21:03] <CreativeEmbassy> I just want to make sure the server stuff is covered. there's some extra diskspace if it downloads the desktop, I just don't need it.
[21:03] <CreativeEmbassy> _KaszpiR_ It's not running anything yet, I don't know how I can run that
[21:04] <_KaszpiR_> last time when I was booting netinstall it was asking for packages to install
[21:05] <_KaszpiR_> i selected none, and it didn;t even install desktop enviroment and so on
[21:05] <_KaszpiR_> I installed specific software later on
[21:14] <CreativeEmbassy> _KaszpiR_ thanks. I'm going ahead with the install, and I'll see if it asks me about packages later. :)
[22:19] <sarnold> hallyn: thanks for the explanation re: /var/lib/lxc  :)
[22:21] <hallyn> sarnold: np.  i actually hadn't realized theimplication about the release-to-release upgrades.  they *will* rechmod the dirs.  oh well.  c'est la vie.
[22:23] <sarnold> hallyn: there's so many different ways people can upgrade and skip versions in the middle, it just seemed inevitable. but there's a nice convenient bug with good keywords and descriptions, hopefully the handful of people who might find themselves in this situation will find it and be content. :)
[23:13] <eagles0513875> hey guys anyone on 12.10 running apache 2.4 with php fpm and mod fast cgi?
[23:13] <eagles0513875> cuz im trying to follow the same method i used to get apache 2.2 running on 12.04 and it isnt working at all
[23:38] <rbasak> eagles0513875: post to the mailing list perhaps, if you don't get an answer here? It would be nice for people using that combination to sync up on this. I am sure there will be others in the future.
[23:39] <eagles0513875> rbasak: i already have a working setup on 12.04 i have no idea what has changed in 13.10 and what is going to be in 14.04
[23:39] <eagles0513875> rbasak: what mailing list are you talking about?
[23:39] <rbasak> eagles0513875: the ubuntu-server mailing list
[23:39] <eagles0513875> ill have to subscribe to it hehe
[23:39] <rbasak> eagles0513875: there were major changes involve in the 2.2->2.4 transition.
[23:40] <rbasak> eagles0513875: I expect far less change in 14.04. Probably just bugfixes, if anyone can pin any bugs down (as opposed to config changes, which we know are required)
[23:40] <rbasak> eagles0513875: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2013-September/006712.html
[23:41] <eagles0513875> basically alot of what i was seeing besides vhosts needing .conf which i think is really stupid imho
[23:41] <eagles0513875> is permissions and what not with php-fpm and fastcgi
[23:41] <eagles0513875> that was my biggest stumbling block
[23:41] <rbasak> It makes packages that work with apache do the task much better
[23:42] <BrianH> Any Juju experts here?
[23:42] <rbasak> BrianH: yes, but also try #juju
[23:42] <BrianH> I'm having a problem bootstrapping my MAAS server.
[23:42] <rbasak> BrianH: #maas for MAAS :)
[23:43] <rbasak> (you're more likely to find experts active on IRC in their own channels)
[23:44] <BrianH> Well, I think it's Juju related, but I'm not sure.  My MAAS IP changed and when I try running juju bootstrap it keeps erroring out because it's looking for the old IP.
[23:44] <eagles0513875> im no juju expert but do you have the ip hard coded somewhere?
[23:45] <rbasak> BrianH: I recommend making sure your MAAS machine's IP doesn't change.
[23:45] <rbasak> BrianH: if you haven't bootstrapped yet, I think you can deal with that by just fixing your environment config.
[23:45] <rbasak> BrianH: but I'm not sure if MAAS needs any more help with that.
[23:45] <eagles0513875> i need to experiment with this cloud stuff that ubuntu has but i dont have the hardware to test with
[23:46] <BrianH> I changed my yaml file and it didn't seem to make a difference.
[23:46] <rbasak> BrianH: #maas will know better, but I don't think changing the MAAS server's IP is really supported.
[23:46] <rbasak> BrianH: #maas might tell you what you need to hack to make it go though
[23:46] <BrianH> rbasak: Thanks.
[23:46] <rbasak> eagles0513875: the latest juju-core will let you experiment with it on LXC containers quite nicely
[23:47] <eagles0513875> rbasak: so i was told by someone is LXC just apt-get install and thats it