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kaendfinger:) I have Ubuntu Touch installed01:12
kaendfingerI think lol01:12
kaendfingerThe only problem is it is stuck at the "Google (Unlocked)" thing01:12
kaendfingerI was able to adb shell into it01:12
kaendfingerBusybox01:12
kaendfingerI assume its not actually booting into Touch yet?01:13
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FFForeverHey hey. Has anyone successfully gotten ubuntu touch to work on the sgs4?02:46
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pittithomi, barry: I did seed one autopilot PPA, but not the experimental one05:27
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Guest57686ive tried automatically installing ubuntu touch to mako now, and manually, but they both get stuck on boot at the google logo06:19
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Guest57686can you use the volume rocker to wake the screen in touch?06:29
RAOFGuest57686: Empirically, no.06:30
Guest57686Thanks RAOF . thats going to be a problem then because i dont have a power button06:34
AskUbuntuInstalling PPA:phablet | http://askubuntu.com/q/36771407:36
mauhi every body08:17
maucan anyone give me an idea where i can get and buy ubuntu phone?08:18
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ddddddddddddddddhttp://www.n4checker.com/ Australia: IN STOCK!08:28
pittianyone with a maguro here? Can you please send me the output of "uname -r"? (I'd like to verify it actually ends with "-maguro")08:40
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ogra_pitti, root@ubuntu-phablet:/# uname -r08:44
ogra_3.0.0-3-maguro08:44
pittiogra_: danke08:46
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kapiteinedhi all, will the nexus 5 be supported by ubuntu?08:47
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Internet Day! :-D09:49
mardycjwatson: FYI: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click/+bug/124582610:15
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1245826 in click (Ubuntu) "Allow applying a hook to multiple files" [Undecided,New]10:15
blazehello10:16
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NeO_Sk8eRhey all, i'm having some trouble building utouch for HTC One, anyone free to give me hand?10:26
NeO_Sk8eRgettint stuck here make: *** No rule to make target `/home/namir/Desktop/htcone/out/target/product/m7ul/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libaudioamp_intermediates/export_includes', needed by `/home/namir/Desktop/htcone/out/target/product/m7ul/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/audio.primary.msm8960_intermediates/import_includes'.  Stop10:29
NeO_Sk8eRif i create that folder, it fails with same error, same folder but libaudioamp.so10:30
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davmor2Morning all11:09
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otakumay i ask a question? is 12.10 support the ubuntu phone OS install?11:29
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nerochiarozsombi: is it by design/normal that when we have anchorToKeyboard: true and the keyboard is showing, people can still pull up the toolbar from just above the keyboard ? it really looks and feels weird12:30
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nerochiarozsombi: also i see that the Page has an header property but it's deprecated. what's the right way to access the header now ? (to know its height and if it's currently visible etc)12:43
zsombit1mp: ^12:44
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zsombinerochiaro: anchorToKeyboard is where?12:45
nerochiarozsombi: mainview12:45
zsombinerochiaro: ah, that one :)... well, that's more for the design, I'd say. it's weird to me, but if they want it like that...12:46
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nerochiarozsombi: ok, if you're sure design is fine with it then i'm ok too12:48
crockethi12:49
crocketWhat will be the display server/compositor of ubuntu touch on phones and tablets?12:49
crocketX, wayland, or something else?12:49
nerochiarozsombi: also any news on all these weird textChanged events ?12:51
zsombinerochiaro: not there yet, I've been busy with some minor IMA fixes12:52
nerochiarozsombi: i think i found a case when it's happeneing even wihtout the OSK visible12:52
zsombinerochiaro: the onTextChanged?12:52
nerochiarozsombi: i'll try to make a minimal test case and attach it to the bug12:52
nerochiarozsombi: yes12:53
ogra_crocket, it is Mir (since a while already)12:53
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t1mpnerochiaro: the idea is that you don't need to know whether the header is visible. its all automatic13:00
nerochiarot1mp: but what if i do need to know ? in my case the header sometimes pop up on top of a list item that's being edited13:02
t1mpnerochiaro: well there is the __propagated.header property that has the header13:04
t1mp(propagated because it is propagated to the pages from the mainview)13:04
nerochiarot1mp: hmm, ok, ugly but i guess that's what i need to use. i'll try to avoid it13:05
t1mpnerochiaro: yeah I propose you use that now.13:05
nerochiarot1mp: ok, thanks13:05
t1mpnerochiaro: perhaps when you have the stuff working and you know what you need exactly from the header (+use cases) you can report a bug with a feature request13:06
t1mpnerochiaro: if you are trying to work around this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1202277 then don't worry about it, I am working on it13:07
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1202277 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "[MainView] positioning & clipping don't take into account ListView.header's height at startup" [Critical,In progress]13:07
crocketMir13:11
crocketI think Mark Shutterworth is making a mistake.13:11
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nerochiarot1mp: no, it's not that bug. but thanks for the heads up13:23
ogra_mzanetti, fyi, tagesschau.de app is in the store13:26
ogra_(still ~10 more news apps to come, i have a scritp now)13:27
mzanettiogra_: nice :)13:28
mzanettiogra_: any success regarding the scrolling issue?13:28
ogra_mzanetti, nope, and the qml wrapper doesnt work13:29
pandinushello to all13:29
mzanettiogra_: do you have some example that shows the issue?13:29
ogra_(well, it works, but you cant have a back button or any other nav objects and there is no way to tell it to open external links in the browser)13:29
mzanettiogra_: I could add that for you if you want13:29
pandinusi got a question regarding installing ubuntu touch on my nexus 413:29
ogra_mzanetti, hmm13:30
ogra_mzanetti, i'm basing off darkers howto from http://daker.me/2013/10/package-your-webapp-for-ubuntu-touch.html13:30
ogra_(and the scrolling is exactly the same as in the browser with that)13:31
mzanettiogra_: ok, perfect. I'll give it a shot later on and paste you over some code for the toolbar and the browser launching13:31
ogra_cool !13:31
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ogra_davmor2, already tried r8 on maguro ?14:38
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davmor2ogra_: r8 why's my image still on 5 then14:39
* ogra_ has the feeling it is more responsive, but i'm not usre thats just wishful thinking 14:39
ogra_davmor2, oh, you are not on proposed i guess14:40
davmor2ogra_: I used system-inmage-cli to up dat I've had one ota from 4 to 5 and no more14:40
ogra_yeah, i didnt publish anything after 5 yet14:41
ogra_if 8 is good on the dashboard i'll push that one out14:41
pittiso, my dear friends14:42
davmor2ogra_: is phablet flash working now or do I still need to use system-image-cli14:42
ogra_for what ?14:42
pittiI wasted two days trying to understand adn reproduce our CI infrastructure and fix my tests only to find out that nothing is broken in them -- it's the unity-next PPA which breaks messaging-app14:42
ogra_you should use phablet-flash only for the initial flashing14:42
davmor2ogra_: to get to 8 without wiping all my data14:42
popeyOTA update14:42
pittiboiko, awe_: ^14:43
ogra_you would need to switch channels to get r814:43
popeyyou should be on trusty-proposed surely?14:43
davmor2popey: there is none past OTA14:43
popeydepends on your channel14:43
pittiboiko: so I think https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/messaging-app/phonesim-tests/+merge/191121 is ready for landing14:43
pittiboiko: if for nothing else, then for holding back whatever breaks messaging-app in the unity-daily PPA (which hasn't landed in trusty yet)14:43
awe_pitti, ?14:43
pittiawe_: hey, how are you? made it safely to Oakland?14:44
davmor2ogra_: right so can I use system-image-cli to do that or is phablet-flash fixed so it doesn't wipe data now?14:44
awe_pitti, I'm good14:44
awe_! in oakland14:44
ogra_davmor2, i dont think it is ...14:44
ogra_davmor2,  system-image-cli --channel trusty-proposed -b 014:44
pittiawe_: who is the main reviewer for messaging-app, is that boiko too?14:45
ogra_and respectively with --channel trusty -b 0 if you want to go back14:45
awe_yes, I don't even know how to spell QML14:45
awe_;D14:45
pittiawe_: no, my point was, it took me so long to land these effing tests because they keep proving crashes in mir and unity, and regressions in the unity-next PPA14:46
kirklandpopey: ogra_: thanks guys, your instructions worked, I'm upgraded ;-)14:46
awe_ah, that sucks14:46
pittiawe_: whereas, we would have found out about these regresiosn/crashes and wouldnt't have gotten them in the first place if we had had the tests in trunk months ago :)14:46
kirklandpopey: ogra_: now, I incorrectly entered my wifi password, and I can't figure out how to delete/edit/update it14:46
ogra_kirkland, yay14:46
awe_pitti, ack14:47
awe_kirkland, ;)14:47
awe_kirkland, delete the NM connection file14:47
ogra_kirkland, hmm, it should just ask again on the next connection attempt14:47
davmor2ogra_: running now14:47
pittiawe_: but anyway, PS jenkins rejects them on amd64, but I still think we should land them now due to that (as they work fine in trusty, it's teh PPA which breaks them)14:47
awe_it's in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections14:47
awe_no UI to do that yet14:47
ogra_awe_, shouldnt you just get a new snap decision to  enter it again if you try to connect and it is wrong ?14:48
awe_it's *supposed* to be fixed for 14.04, but currently no UI to edit NM connections on touch14:48
* ogra_ saw that before here 14:48
awe_ogra_, yea...sure14:48
kirklandawe_: howdy!14:48
awe_first of all, for older WEP APs the only way to tell that the pw is bad, is you never get an IP address from DHCP14:48
awe_ogra_, it's basically a timeout style operation14:49
ogra_ah14:49
ogra_i have WPA2 here14:49
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sil2100charles: ping!14:58
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dakerhi ogra_ question, does games coded with unity3d work on the phone ?15:25
ogra_daker, i think you need to ship everything yoou need for this in the click ... but beyond that i dont see why not15:26
ogra_pure GLES stuff should just work15:26
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sergiusensogra_, my mind is blank, what was the android-chroot command again? or is it gone?15:26
ogra_gone :)15:27
sergiusensogra_, reason?15:27
ogra_people mistook it for a real chroot all the time15:27
ogra_which it isnt15:27
ogra_you are not actually inside the container ... it just chroots into the fs15:27
ogra_sergiusens, the proper fix would be to have lxc-console work, but i think stgraber said that wont be possible for us15:28
ogra_since we dont actually have a real console in android15:29
sergiusensogra_, hmm, too bad, it worked well enough for me; was that in lxc-android-config?15:29
ogra_(which this command wants to connect to))15:29
ogra_yeah15:29
ogra_just grab it out of the tree from a former revision15:29
sergiusensogra_, yup, that's why I asked :-)15:29
ogra_i didnt see a way how to actually make it enter the init session, else i would have kept it around ... with the potential to be fixed at some poiunt15:30
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stgraberogra_: well, you could use one of my patched kernels and use lxc-attach15:41
stgrabera bit outdated though: https://github.com/stgraber/linux/tree/mako-lxc15:41
ogra_stgraber, why cant we ship that patch (at least until FF) in our kernels ?15:41
stgraberI have mako and manta patched that way, grouper and maguro were too old to get a clean cherry-pick15:42
ogra_ah15:42
stgraberogra_: it's a rather big patchset even for mako and manta: https://github.com/stgraber/linux/commits/mako-lxc :)15:42
ogra_oh, ok15:42
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boikopitti: for messaging and dialer apps, it is usually me and salem_ reviewing MRs15:48
pittiboiko: ack; tiago pinged me about it, seems he has a handle on that one15:49
pittiboiko: but I'll have to re-do that exercise again for the pending https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/dialer-app/enable-phonesim-tests/+merge/191248, so for load balancing I might ping you next time :)15:49
boikopitti: yep, that's fine15:50
charlessil2100: pong!16:00
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ogra_seb128, Laney, system-settings is very crashy for me with the latest image, i found http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/_usr_bin_system-settings.32011.crash in /var/crash ...16:04
seb128ogra_, hey16:04
seb128ogra_, nothing changed in system-settings since saucy, got to be a bug in some other parts of the stack16:05
ogra_hey, enjoying the sprint ?16:05
seb128yes! ;-)16:05
ogra_seb128, yeah, other apps semm impacted too, but thats the only crash file i have :)16:05
sil2100charles: hi! I wanted to know something related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/123317616:05
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1233176 in Ubuntu Clock App "Alarm notifications do not appear when an alarm is triggered" [Critical,Triaged]16:06
sil2100charles: is this fixed? How is it supposed to work now?16:06
kenvandinei wonder if that crash is related to any qt libs updated without rebuilds16:09
kenvandinehas any of the qt libs been updated in trusty?16:09
seb128kenvandine, That's Madness!16:09
ogra_kenvandine, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20131029.changes and http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20131029.1.changes16:09
ogra_the image before was fine16:10
seb128ogra_, people is not responding, can't look at those16:10
seb128oh, now it does16:10
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kenvandineogra_, image 8?16:18
kenvandineogra_, i just updated, not crashing for me16:18
ogra_kenvandine, mako or maguro ?16:19
kenvandinemako16:19
seb128ogra_, how do you reproduce the issue? is that happening on start?16:19
ogra_kenvandine, if i tap around a bit it eventually just vanishes off the screen here16:19
kenvandineok... /me taps16:19
ogra_going here and there16:19
seb128it got to be a mir issue16:20
seb128kgunn, ^16:20
ogra_i had a few occurences where going to the battery panel was a pretty reliable crasher16:20
ogra_but later it didnt crash there anymore16:20
ogra_though it looks definitely like a more general issue ... i even manage to get the browser to crash here16:21
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kgunnkdub: ^ can you try ?16:21
kenvandineogra_, finally crashed..16:22
charlessil2100: looks like it should be in 13.10 now, it landed in indicator-datetime/13.10 in r277 and 13.10.0+13.10.20131023.2-0ubuntu1 was r28016:22
kenvandinetook lots of clicking around16:22
kgunnogra_: so you are reporting the crash ?16:22
ogra_kenvandine, strat it again, it gets more unsteable with each new start i think16:22
kenvandineinteresting16:22
ogra_kgunn, well, i'm not sure against what :)16:22
ogra_kgunn, apps crash randomly16:22
kdubkgunn,  try what?16:23
charlessil2100: so, when an appointment is reached, there will be a snap decision that pops up, with two options, Dismiss and Show16:23
kgunnkdub: try image8 on mako16:23
kenvandinenot starting now... well i get the famous white screen16:23
kenvandinecould just be apport pegging my system slowing it down though16:23
ogra_kenvandine, yeah, popey  seems to get that for music app on his install16:23
charlessil2100: and if Show is chosen, the first alarm url associated with that appointment is launched16:23
kenvandineload over 916:23
ogra_wow16:23
ogra_get gloves !16:24
kdubkgunn, i'll try... will take some time to save my work there and reflash though, stay tuned16:24
kgunnkdub: ogra_ is thinking he sees "new" crashing....but not sure exactly what16:24
kdubkgunn, why do we think mir? :)16:24
kgunnkdub:  :)  ....you know how it goes16:25
kenvandinewell mir just landed16:25
seb128kdub, kgunn: because that's basically the only thing that changed on images this week16:25
seb128and the bug happen after some screen tapping16:25
ogra_kgunn, kdub http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20131029.changes and http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20131029.1.changes16:25
ogra_thats the set of changed packages16:25
kgunnkdub: seb128 ...sorry gotta pay attention to other things right now16:25
ogra_between the last working and the non working image16:25
kenvandineogra_, you are right... it is easier to crash a second time16:26
kenvandineweird how it was more stable until the first crash16:26
ogra_yep16:26
kenvandinemakes it feel less like it's the app16:26
ogra_yeah, which cant really be16:26
sil2100charles: sorry, got preempted to something else, ok so it's when you set-up an Alarm?16:28
kenvandineogra_, yup... clicking around in dialer-app made it crash too16:28
ogra_right16:28
kenvandineso it seems like all apps16:28
sil2100charles: since I was using trunk on my device, set-up an alarm, waited until the time comes and nothing happened16:28
ogra_yeah16:28
charlessil2100: let me do some testing with it today and see what results I get. It was working for me right before the release, but it was very last-minute code16:30
charlessil2100: by virtue of its timing, I'd hold it with more suspicion than usual16:30
kenvandineogra_, so dialer-app didn't really crash... it  isn't showing as running in the shell but the process is still running (since unity-mir) doesn't kill/suspend it16:32
Saviqseb128, where does settings app change the locale in?16:32
kenvandinebut dialer-app is using 99% cpu16:32
kenvandineand i can't launch it again16:32
ogra_kenvandine, hmm, unity perhaps then16:33
kenvandinekgunn, ^^16:33
seb128Saviq, ~/.pam_environment16:33
seb128Saviq, why?16:33
kenvandineogra_, i think the exception to keep it running is in unity-mir16:33
Saviqseb128, I need to put pl_PL in there ;)16:33
ogra_ah16:33
seb128Saviq, well, if it's not listed it's because it's not possible16:33
Saviqseb128, I know, I'll manage ;)16:33
kenvandineQProcess: Destroyed while process ("echo") is still running.16:33
seb128Saviq, locale -a to see the available locale, without the language-pack-base-pl you can't use that locale16:34
kenvandinein the upstart log for dialer-app16:34
ogra_ricmm, ^^^16:34
Saviqseb128, I know, have installed already16:34
seb128Saviq, well, the right solution is to go in write mode and install the langpack, that should make it be listed in the UI as well16:34
seb128and it's not listed in system settings?16:34
seb128weird16:34
Saviqseb128, ah, didn't check16:34
Saviqseb128, it did!16:34
Saviqseb128, didn't know it's dynamic, thanks!16:34
seb128Saviq, yw16:34
ogra_ricmm, could you take a look at image #8 ? apps randomly crash with that ... seems kenvandine can trace it down to unity-mir16:35
* Saviq needs to do a lot of translations16:35
seb128Saviq, yeah it's dynamic, attente did a good job there ;-)16:35
seb128ogra_, kdub, kgunn, kenvandine: got a stracktrace for the .crash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324911/16:40
seb128looks like mir issues16:40
seb128or boost...16:40
melvsterhow hard is it to run desktop apps on an ubuntu touch ... let's say I have a long term goal to run a browser like opera ... how feasible would that be?16:42
kdubseb128, thanks16:43
kdubseb128, can we file a mir bug about it? seems mir-related enough16:46
seb128kdub, sure16:46
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ricmmogra_: sure they are crashing? might be oom16:52
ricmmI heard they only crash when out of view16:52
ogra_ricmm, oh ? did that change ?16:52
kenvandineseb128, kdub, ogra_: bug 124595816:52
ubot5bug 1245958 in unity-mir "Apps crash with image 8" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124595816:52
ricmmmight be a misinterpretation of oom actually making the kill16:52
ogra_ricmm, no, they vanish underneath my fingers16:52
ricmmoh16:52
ricmmthen thats a bug :)16:53
ricmmmight be related to a change that landed in Mir16:53
ricmmabout client buffer swapping16:53
ogra_yeah, see what kenvandine posted16:53
ricmmconsidering the shell doesnt seem to be affected16:53
kenvandinericmm, and with dialer-app, it disappears but the process never dies16:53
ricmmI will put my first-take blame on that16:53
kenvandinebut it pegs the cpu16:53
ricmmsounds like mir16:53
kenvandineyup16:53
kenvandinei filed it against unity-mir, please change that as needed16:53
ricmmI dont know the exact commit but my recommendation is to ping duflu16:53
ricmmand check ifhe can confirm that16:54
ricmmperhaps try with a rollback of it, unity-mir and platform-api havent changed so you could rollback and give it a shot16:54
ricmmthe bumps there are to match the mir abi bumps16:54
kdubalan_g, alf_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324911/16:55
davmor2ogra_: so image 8 is smoother16:55
ogra_but totally broken16:55
ogra_see above16:56
alan_gkdub: context?16:56
kdubalan_g, applications are aborting on image8, thought you might know what may have changed in the client rpc code16:56
davmor2ogra_: shuggin fashin shuggin fashin dick dastardly16:57
alan_gkdub: that looks a bit strange - MirSurface::next_buffer() is not being called from the Mir API - I'll have to dig into the code...16:59
kdubyeah, i haven't seen it yet, will try to pin the scenario down17:00
kdubunless someone here already knows the scenario that makes it happen reliably17:00
ogra_use the system-settings, tap around in it for a while, see it vanish17:01
ogra_it isnt reliably reproducable ... seems ot happen to every app after a while17:01
alan_gkdub: Hmm ClientSurfaceInterpreter::driver_returns_buffer() has a call to surface.next_buffer() - I guess this is another thread where someone forgot about handling exceptions.17:02
alan_gIt's a bit late in today for me to dig into now. But if you can get a complete stack trace I'll investigate in the morning.17:03
kdubalan_g, sure17:03
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alan_gkdub: Maybe this is the problem alf just noticed/fixed - https://code.launchpad.net/~afrantzis/mir/remove-client-rpc-timeout/+merge/19309417:13
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kdubalan_g, maybe...17:16
thomibarry: trusty AP packages should now be avaialble in the ppa:autopilot/experimental PPA.17:16
barrythomi: fantastic, thanks17:17
thomibarry: no worries, I think pitti did the actual work :)17:20
thomibut I'm happy to take the credit :)17:20
barrythomi: :)  it'll probably be tomorrow before i take a look17:20
robert_ancellogra_, what is the magic command to update my phone to trusty?17:27
ogra_robert_ancell, system-image-cli -c trusty -b 017:29
ogra_if you want to see whats going on, add -v17:29
ogra_(else it has no output at all)17:29
robert_ancellogra_, thanks17:30
barryand --dry-run if you want to see what it'll do17:30
robert_ancellah, was trying -u instead of -b here17:31
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ogra_barry, bah, lame avoiding the risk takes out all excitement :P17:31
barryrobert_ancell: yeah, that's a turd (no-op) option.  removed in the next release. ;)17:31
barryogra_: :)17:31
robert_ancellogra_, FileNotFoundError: http://system-image.ubuntu.com/pool/ubuntu-a542f511e5de48d2172a80244671b15a76a085eb6d69f16a473c514a9a4c524f.tar.xz:NETWORK ERROR17:39
ogra_woah17:39
robert_ancellogra_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6325242/17:40
ogra_robert_ancell, sounds like some proxy messup ... i can wget the file here17:40
robert_ancellok17:40
ogra_barry, ^^^17:41
stgraberblame IS (assuming you are at the sprint) :)17:41
ogra_or am i wrong ?17:41
robert_ancellI can wget from my laptop, but not from the phone17:41
barrythat's an error coming from the ubuntu-download-manager17:41
robert_ancellactually, I can also manually wget from my phone too17:42
robert_ancellI am at the sprint17:42
ogra_fun17:43
ogra_isnt kirkland there too ?17:43
robert_ancellI think so17:43
barryi think u-d-m logs to syslog.  you should check to see if anything shows up there17:43
ogra_i know he did the exact same procedure yesterday17:43
ogra_ask him what network he was on then :)17:43
barryand maybe ping mandel if he's around17:43
kirklandogra_: i'm at home, waiting on a baby :)17:43
ogra_oh17:43
ogra_'mericans reproduce often... 'mericans reproduce fast :)17:44
ogra_*g*17:44
kenvandinehaha17:44
ogra_congrats too :)17:44
kirklandogra_: thanks!17:44
robert_ancellI might just phablet-flash if no-one wan't to debug this - what's the command for that to get trusty?17:45
ogra_note that will wipe your data17:45
robert_ancellthat's fine17:45
ogra_phablet-flash ubuntu-system -c trusty17:45
robert_ancellta17:45
ogra_(or --channel trusty if you like long options)17:46
robert_ancell-c is not in my version17:46
robert_ancellbut --channel is17:46
sergiusensrobert_ancell, add a --boostrap to that17:47
robert_ancellok17:47
sergiusensrobert_ancell, ogra_ if you want to keep data bzr branch lp:phablet-tools and do it from there17:47
sergiusenswithout the --bootstrap of course17:47
ogra_yeah17:48
ogra_i would have pointed robert_ancell to you as a potential test victim ... but he didnt want to keep his data17:49
seb128mardy, still around?17:57
AskUbuntuIs there any way to run Ubuntu Touch 1.0 in VirtualBox? | http://askubuntu.com/q/36801418:00
AskUbuntuclock disappeared on Ubuntu Touch | http://askubuntu.com/q/36801718:12
Vyomhmm18:13
VyomDoes Alex gets the point of "its extremely buggy"18:14
davmor2ogra_: does that mean we can expect another version today?18:16
ogra_davmor2, not really ... we'll have to wait until there is a fix or someone rolled back the breakage18:18
davmor2ogra_: fair enough :)18:18
Laneycjwatson: For getting the desktop file from the click manifest, is it always going to be "hooks" → title → "desktop"?18:19
balloonsiBelieve, ping18:21
iBelieveballoons, pong18:21
balloonsiBelieve, so I'm working on fixing the filemanager ap tests18:22
balloonsit seems there is indeed a bug in phone mode18:22
balloonscut/copy doesn't work for files or folders18:22
iBelieveballoons, that's strange18:22
balloonson my trusty phone the option doesn't exist. trying it manually, no go18:23
iBelieveballoons, the paste option should show up when a file is on the clipboard. If it doesn't, something isn't working with the clipboard18:23
iBelieveballoons, unfortunately I don't have a device to try fiddling around with it.18:24
balloonsiBelieve, I was just looking in FolderListpage.qml18:24
balloonsis that the place to look? ;-)18:25
balloonsbasically as you say if there is something there it the option should exist18:25
iBelieveballoons, yes, that is the place to look. The paste option should show up if pageModel.clipboardUrlsCounter > 018:25
balloonscan we debug it somehow?18:26
iBelieveballoons, lines 229-24518:26
balloonsI do have a phone in front of me ;-)18:26
balloonshow about the placing on the clipboard piece?18:26
iBelieveballoons, FolderListView.qml, lines 100 - 12118:27
balloonslooks like folderlistview has that.. so I'll check the log to see if it gets there18:27
iBelieveballoons, btw, it works on the desktop, so it is something wrong on the phone18:29
cjwatsonLaney: believe so18:29
cjwatsonLaney: well, there's been some discussion of "hooks" -> "applications" or some such but assume yes for now18:29
Laneycjwatson: mmkay18:30
iBelieveballoons, I'm back again. My battery died :(18:32
balloonsiBelieve,18:32
iBelieveballoons, ?18:35
balloonsiBelieve, sorry just trying to figure out how to debug this18:36
iBelieveballoons, can you run it from the terminal?18:36
balloonsyes i think so18:39
balloonsI just don't see18:39
balloonsfound it ;-)18:40
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balloonssergiusens, what's the best way to run a phone app from the terminal?18:45
balloonsI thought just running it with qmlscene would fly, but it doesn't :-)18:46
sergiusensballoons, it's a compiled application18:49
balloonssergiusens, no, not compiled.. pure qml.18:49
sergiusensballoons, since when?18:49
balloonssergiusens, lol sorry.. I'm trying to run filemanager, not the dialer or phone app18:50
sergiusensballoons, oh18:50
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sergiusensballoons, start application APP_ID=com.ubuntu.filemanager_filemanager_${version}18:51
balloonssergiusens, :-) I knew there was a launcher, I simply couldn't remember, ty18:51
sergiusensballoons, np18:51
balloonshmm18:53
balloonssergiusens, it doesn't seem to like "start application"18:53
sergiusensballoons, did you fill in the version?18:53
sergiusensballoons, check ~/.cache/upstart/application-click-com.ubuntu.filemanager_filemanager_$version.log18:54
sergiusensballoons, also if you reinstalled a click with a newer version you might need to rerun the apparmor hooks18:55
balloonsI'm trying to run the preinstalled version18:55
balloonsclick doesn't seem to get it though.. it's weird18:55
balloonsbut I'm getting start: Unknown job: application18:56
sergiusensballoons, are you root and not phablet?18:56
balloonsi am indeed root18:56
sergiusensballoons, application is a user session job :-)18:56
balloonsyes I figured as much18:57
balloonslet me look18:57
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balloonsinit-ctl list shows me no such thing18:58
balloonsinitctl list-sessions has 1 upstart session running18:59
balloonssergiusens, ^^ thoughts? I'm running trusty build 519:03
cyphermoxbfiller: hey. with the fixes for address-book-app, it's worse.19:04
sergiusensballoons, I'm not following19:04
bfillercyphermox: really?19:04
cyphermoxbfiller: when I click a contact for the first time, now that's the only one that ever appears :)19:04
bfillercyphermox: renato_ can you help with cyphermox issue. I tested it and it works for me19:04
balloonssergiusens, I believe application should show in the upstart job list right? I don't see it. start application is not a known job19:04
cyphermoxI checked that I'm running the latest address-book-app, not sure if there are other pieces I should update too19:04
cyphermoxrenato_: ^19:04
sergiusensballoons, ah; how are you logging in to phablet19:05
sergiusens?19:05
balloonsI'm trying from the terminal app, and via adb shell19:05
balloonsdo I need to ssh in ?19:05
balloonssergiusens, 6619:07
balloons^^19:07
sergiusensballoons, not really, ssh isn't needed19:07
renato_cyphermox, we have the fix for that19:07
sergiusensballoons, doing adb shell and then sudo -i -u phablet should be enough19:07
renato_let me see the status of the MR19:07
balloonssergiusens, should I get the latest devel image?19:08
sergiusensballoons, if you don't see any upstart application job no apps should launch19:08
sergiusensis that the casE?19:08
sergiusensif not, build #5 is fine19:08
cyphermoxrenato_: I know, that's landed... that's what I'm trying to test, but it's not working19:09
renato_cyphermox, did not land yet19:09
balloonswild.. as with everything I rebooted and reshelled in19:09
cyphermoxrenato_: really?19:09
balloonsI see the application job now19:09
renato_cyphermox, https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/address-book-app/fix-contact-fetch/+merge/19296619:09
* balloons scratches head19:09
cyphermoxerr19:09
renato_jenkins did not approve it19:10
renato_bfiller, could you approve it again?19:10
cyphermoxah, I could have sworn it did land... oh well, now at least it's clear19:10
cyphermoxsorry for the noise ;)19:11
Hashcodeogra_ I've been investigating the differences on the loop mount system method.. seems like there are some cmdline params to set for that?19:17
balloonsiBelieve, ok finally I have something :-)19:20
iBelieveballoons, great!19:20
balloonslet me share with you via paste, 1 min19:20
balloonsiBelieve, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6325809/. This is me trying to cut and copy a folder into another one19:23
balloonsCliboardUrlsCounter after copy 019:23
balloons<-- this is bad19:23
peter-nexus7hello! is there any way to force/turn on landscape orientation for an app i'm developing on nexus7?19:25
iBelieveballoons, that is bad. I'll take a look in minute19:25
sergiusensballoons, might mean your session died19:26
peter-nexus7it doesn't have to autorotate - just fixed landscape is enough19:26
balloonsyea.. I was playing around for a long time.. it works now though, so ty sergiusens19:26
balloonspeter-nexus7, I'm not sure.. mhall119 ^^19:26
mhall119peter-nexus7: there is a way to tell the app to auto-rotate, yes, but that may not be working right now on Nexus 7 builds19:30
peter-nexus7mhall119: I don't care about auto-rotate - fixed landscape is enough19:31
mhall119peter-nexus7: I don't think there is a way to do that, no, the Nexus 7's default orientation is Portrait19:31
peter-nexus7even for my own app?19:33
mhall119peter-nexus7: there might be some way, but the only options I know of are "Stick to the default orientation" and "Automatically change rotation based on the device's orientation"19:33
t1mppeter-nexus7, mhall119 the feature you ask for is work in progress. Should be there next week. You may want to track https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/123976019:37
peter-nexus7mhall119 ok - too bad... could you point me to the documentation for auto-rotate that I can start my own investigation from?19:37
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1239760 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Cannot manually set orientation" [Medium,Confirmed]19:37
peter-nexus7t1mp: thanks - that's a usefull information. So this bug states it's currently imposible from QML - is it also the case for Qt C++ code?19:42
t1mppeter-nexus7: it is not impossible from QML, but currently don't have it exposed in an easy way in our UITK (for example in the MainView).19:45
t1mppeter-nexus7: qml has a Screen variable that you can use for orienting your app.19:45
t1mppeter-nexus7: we use the Screen in our OrientationHelper (which is used by MainView, currently only enabling/disabling automatic orientation). See http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/view/head:/modules/Ubuntu/Components/OrientationHelper.qml how we use it.19:46
t1mppeter-nexus7: we like to make it easier if you use our UITK, and for that, the bug is being fixed.19:48
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balloonsiBelieve, any thoughts?19:49
t1mppeter-nexus7: sorry, gotta go now. If you need some help you can ping me  tomorrow, or ask someone else from the UITK team. kalikiana is working on that bug (actually, waiting for my review of his merge request)19:49
mhall119peter-nexus7: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/Ubuntu.Components.MainView/#automaticOrientation-prop19:50
iBelieveballoons, sorry, forgot about it. I'm wondering if it has something to do with not being able to access the clipboard under confinement. I just read an email on the mailing list about copy/paste not working (I assume that was with text)19:51
peter-nexus7t1mp just to make sure I understand - if I use this Screen variable than I'll be able to manually rotate screen on Nexus7, right?19:51
balloonsiBelieve, is it an apparmor rule we can add?19:52
iBelieveballoons, no idea. I know hardly anything about confinement and apparmor.19:52
t1mppeter-nexus7: yes, that is what I think. But we also manipulate it in the MainView (using OrientationHelper), so if you use the Screen variable AND a MainView, they might conflict. So if weird stuff happens, try it in a separate program without a MainView.19:53
t1mppeter-nexus7: and I guess when our bug is fixed you can do it in an easier way using the UITK.19:53
t1mppeter-nexus7: I think ideally we make it so that you set MainView.automaticOrientation to false, and specify the rotation angle to give you landscape mode. But it is not working yet until the bug is fixed.19:55
peter-nexus7t1mp: thanks - I'll try it out. Good to know it's most probably be possible19:57
t1mppeter-nexus7: you're welcome.19:58
* t1mp off now.19:58
kalikianapeter-nexus7: once the bug is fixed you can use OrientationHelper { orientationAngle: 90 } like in the example given in the bug report20:04
kalikianathe problem is that QML defines "window" whenever it feels it likes to, so the bug is to fix the race condition20:05
jdstrandballoons, iBelieve: I don't have any context, but if apparmor is blocking something, you will see a denial in /var/log/syslog. eg: grep DEN /var/log/syslog. if you see a denial that shouldn't be there, please file a but against apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu20:08
jdstrands/a but/a bug/20:09
balloonsjdstrand, ty for the heads up20:09
jonebladehello all!20:09
balloonsjdstrand, iBelieve i don't see anything in there.. just tried :-)20:10
jonebladeI have install ubuntu phone os to non-Nexus phone. It's possible?20:11
balloonsiBelieve, I guess we couldn't patch a fix then as a workaround since it's not going to the cluipboard20:11
balloonsis there another way to do it?20:12
jonebladeERROR:phablet-flash:Unsupported device, autodetect fails device20:13
iBelieveballoons, Probably the best thing to do would be to file a bug on the File Manager, attach the logs you have, and let the backend developer, Carlos, know since he probably knows best what is going wrong and how to debug it.20:14
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jonebladehow can you get around this?20:14
balloonsiBelieve, noted, I'll do it20:14
iBelieveballoons, thanks!20:14
balloonsiBelieve, so assign to whom? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/124385420:16
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1243854 in Ubuntu File Manager App "Paste option is not available in folder_actions_popover" [Medium,Confirmed]20:16
balloonsI forgot there was a bug already for this :-)20:16
iBelieveballoons, I assigned it to Carlos. He is the backend developer20:18
WebbyITWhat's left of Android in Ubuntu Touch ?20:24
popeyWebbyIT: not much20:24
mhall119WebbyIT: some drivers and kernel stuff, not sure what's in the LXC container anymore20:25
WebbyITpopey, mhall119 thanks :)20:26
mhall119popey's "not much" is pretty accurate though :)20:26
WebbyITpopey, when will we restart to have weekly meeting for core-apps? :)20:26
mhall119getting PulseAudio, GStreamer and Mir working has, I think, replaced most of the Android services that were being used20:26
WebbyITI want to improve the calculator :P20:27
WebbyITmhall119, uou, thanks :)20:27
mhall119WebbyIT: you don't need to wait for meeting for that :)20:27
Grummanhello all20:27
WebbyITmhall119, need design input ;)20:27
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mhall119ah20:28
Grummani have installed ubuntu mobile on my maco (nexus 4) everything works fine exept the ubuntu desktop feature. I connect it to a monitoe with the slimport adapter but nothing happens..... any suggestions?20:28
WebbyITGrumman, convergence is not ready yet20:29
balloonsiBelieve, while I have you.. can you look at this in a minute? https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-filemanager-app/fix-ap-tests-with-trusty/+merge/19311320:29
GrummanWebbyIT, thank you that explains a lot! :)20:30
GrummanIs there any developer version I can use?20:30
iBelieveballoons, sure20:31
GrummanI soo want it on my test phone!!! :)20:31
iBelieveballoons, approved20:31
WebbyITGrumman, afaik, no20:32
Grumman:(20:32
Grummanthanks a lot for the info!20:32
WebbyITGrumman, yw20:33
SaviqMirv, hey, bug #1244549 would be fixed if we release unity-notifications and notify-osd20:35
ubot5bug 1244549 in unity-notifications "unity8 test failures in trusty" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124454920:35
SaviqMirv, think we could get those released?20:35
MirvSaviq: needs a Landing Asks20:38
MirvSaviq: I added it to Asks, can you check it looks correct? last line20:39
SaviqMirv, +120:41
Mirvthanks20:41
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crocketMir21:10
crocketIf the display server is Mir on ubuntu touch, will X11 applications run on it?21:10
Mirvkdub: any update on the unity-mir / app crasher issue?21:27
Mirvie bug #124595821:27
ubot5bug 1245958 in unity-mir "Apps crash with image 8" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124595821:27
kdubMirv, not yet, messed up my device21:29
melvsterhi all anyone know how to search for an app?21:51
melvsteri just got a message that bitcoin is now in the ubuntu touch store21:51
melvsterbut I cant seem to get it21:51
ulkeshi know it's not officially supported, but does anyone know if a ubuntu touch build has been made for the nexus 7 2nd gen (2013)?21:51
melvsteroh ... wasnt connected to wlan21:55
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Mirvulkesh: not according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices which hopefully would mention it if someone would be doing the port at the moment23:28
ulkeshMirv: thanks for the info and the link!23:40
cyphermoxbfiller: so, address-book-app going to be in proposed soonish23:48
bfillercyphermox: great, thanks23:48
cyphermoxbfiller: however, I was able to make it crash various ways, I filed bug 1246130 about this23:48
ubot5bug 1246130 in address-book-app (Ubuntu) "Crashes randomly when selecting contacts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124613023:48
bfillercyphermox: ok, think it may be related to something in the system - seeing lots of apps crashing in today's proposedd image23:50
cyphermoxbfiller: and it just died on my for no reason at all23:50
cyphermoxok23:50
bfillercyphermox: yup23:50
cyphermoxalright23:50
cyphermoxanyway, going to be in proposed soon23:50
bfillersergiusens: ping23:52
bfillersergiusens: what's the process to run autopilot tests for click packages?23:52
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