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nuvolario/ mornings05:24
Squirmmorning05:59
Squirmhow are things nuvolari 06:03
nuvolarihi Squirm, things are well, and you?06:36
Squirmnuvolari: very well thanks :)06:37
Squirmheading up past you on Friday06:37
Squirmwell, heading up way past you06:37
inetprogoeie more06:38
inetproMaaz: tell Kilos Goeie More Oom06:38
Maazinetpro: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode06:38
Kilosmorning superfly and others06:38
MaazKilos: By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell Kilos Goeie More Oom" 14 seconds ago06:38
Squirmmorning Kilos 06:38
Kiloshi Squirm inetpro 06:39
nuvolarihallo inetpro, oom Kilos 06:43
Kiloslo nuvolari 06:43
nuvolariwhy only past me Squirm? :-/06:43
Squirmnuvolari: heading up to Hluhluwe06:44
superflyguten morgen Kilos06:58
superflySquirm: you can meet up with magespawn06:58
Squirmsuperfly: was thinking that06:59
Squirmbut06:59
SquirmMaaz: seen magespawn06:59
MaazSquirm: magespawn was last seen 16 days, 16 hours, 45 minutes and 29 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-10-12 16:13:56 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-10-12 16:14:03 SAST06:59
Kiloshe isnt even answering mail07:07
Kiloshope he be ok07:07
Kiloshiya maiatoday 07:07
Kiloshows the head superfly ?07:14
Symmetriasup07:15
Kiloshi Symmetria 07:15
superflyKilos: beter dankie07:15
Kilosyay07:15
Symmetriasuperfly what happened to your head? lol, 2 much booze?07:17
Kilosmigraine 07:17
Symmetriaahhh not cool07:18
Kilosnope07:18
SymmetriaI can sympathize with that :) lol, never sympathize with hangovers though because those are self inflicted ;p (I know I have a habit of inflicting them on myself)07:18
Symmetriahaha07:18
Kiloshaha07:18
Kilosall that money wasted, and you get no benefits from it07:19
Symmetriaso I was sitting in the smoking lounge at the hilton hotel in amsterdam last week, and saw the funniest thing I think I have ever seen07:19
Kilostell07:19
Symmetria;p 20 little chinese men smoking vast quantities of weed, giggling at each other and stuffing their faces full of cheethos ;p07:19
Symmetriathere was something just so wrong, and at the same time so sterotypical and so hilarious about that situation, especially sitting in a 5 star hotel 07:20
Kiloseish07:20
Symmetriahehehe then again, its amsterdam07:22
Symmetriayou see strange things there all the time07:22
Symmetriathey have even legalized cocaine in amsterdam now07:23
Kiloswow, they encourage druggies?07:23
superflySymmetria: I don't drink07:24
Symmetriakilos lol, in amsterdam there is this little concept that I think the rest of the world should embrace, its the concept of self responsibility07:25
Symmetriayou can do what you want, but you're responsible for your own actions and the state isn't gonna nanny you, if you wanna screw yourself up, thats your choice 07:25
Kilossome peeps have none so they have to be ruled07:26
Symmetriaand it works, the dutch themselves smoke very little weed, its mostly smoked by foreigners in holland 07:26
Symmetriaits the same way that the dutch legalized any and all forms of prostitution, its legal, its regulated, its taxed, and again, its mostly the foreigners taking advantage of it07:26
Symmetriabut it makes the government billions and because of the regulations all the health checks and everything are there so its also far safer than the situation we sit with07:27
Symmetrialol, amsterdam = whole other world, you can even buy magic mushrooms in the supermarket07:27
Kilosthose things the mexicans eatto get goofed?07:28
Squirmyep07:33
SquirmI don't know if it's just mexicans though07:33
Kilospeyote or something07:33
SquirmI've been offered shrooms at Splashy :P07:33
Kilosnot good to do anything that impares brain function07:34
Squirmyou tell that to everyone who drinks as well?07:35
Symmetriaheh kilos, well, there is a lot of research to show that weed is a lot safer than booze :)07:37
Symmetriaand a lot less addictive07:37
Symmetria;p07:37
Symmetria"... very dark, is the other side, very dark..."07:37
Kiloshaha07:37
Symmetria"shuddup yoda and eat your bloody toast"07:37
Vince-0whoot Telkoom fixed my DSL this morning08:12
Vince-0only took 5 days08:12
Kiloshi tinuva Vince-0 08:13
Kilosthats good Vince-0 08:13
SquirmI can't wait08:42
magespawnhowdy all09:30
magespawnhi Kilos 09:30
Kilosohi magespawn where you been09:31
psyatwhello magespawn09:32
magespawnworking, and no airtime for home use09:32
psyatwhi Kilos09:32
psyatwhola space_09:32
magespawnhi psyatw 09:32
Kilosaw09:32
Kiloshi psyatw 09:32
psyatwI haven´t been that talkative here outside of work either09:32
psyatwwhat have you been doing at work, magespawn?09:33
magespawnreally struggling with an asterisk server09:33
psyatwoh, but it works now?09:33
magespawnit was working when i got here, but i cannot make it do what i want09:34
Kilosrev Symmetria maybe he knows them09:34
magespawnlearning curve is a tad insane09:34
Kilosare you able to get documentation or help at least09:35
psyatwyeah, I know09:36
psyatweverything takes quite a bit of time to study09:36
Squirmoh look, magespawn 09:37
Squirmlong time09:37
magespawnplenty of documentation, thats part of the problem09:38
magespawnhi Squirm 09:38
SquirmAsterisk is fun :P09:38
Squirmthough all I've done is followed a how-to guide on setting up a SIP server09:39
Squirmand played with Elastix09:39
magespawnhold on a sec09:40
magespawnhere is the extensions.conf http://slexy.org/view/s2Xoeb0Lzc09:44
psyatwI had only heard of vocal by vovida and gnu bayonne before09:44
Squirmmeans nothing to me :P09:46
Kilosai!09:46
Kilosthats to all the fones?09:46
Squirmpsyatw: Asterisk is quite popular09:47
SquirmKilos: it would be09:47
psyatwSquirm, I know, I heard about it a few years ago09:47
Squirm[11:44:30] .:psyatw:. I had only heard of vocal by vovida and gnu bayonne before09:48
Squirm?09:48
magespawnand the sip.conf slexy.org/view/s2uhEY6pyC09:48
Squirmah09:49
Squirmso extensions handle the analogue lines09:49
Squirmand obviously sip handles the voip extensions09:49
Squirmthe internal stuff09:49
magespawnnow my problem is to get the last four entries in the sip.conf  the 104,105 and 106 to only call each other09:49
magespawn104 is the recption phone for intercom and the 105 and 106 are sip door phones09:50
magespawnat the moment they dial the main switchboard at 10009:50
magespawnwhich i think is controlled by the extensions.conf09:50
psyatwSquirm, I´ve got an O´Reilly book about VOCAL that I brought from India back in 2003, my mother actually brought it to Poland for me09:51
psyatwhttp://vovida.sourceforge.net/09:51
Squirmsip doorphones, that's cool09:52
magespawnyes but i do not want them to dial tha main reception switchboard but a dedicated phone09:53
magespawnthey are these http://www.miro.co.za/detail.aspx?pid=2066&p=VoIP&sp=IP%20Phones&spp=Door%20Phones&spid=187&sspid=66909:54
magespawnand you can send a signal from the phone that answers the doorphone to open a gate/door09:55
magespawngoing for lunch brb09:58
Kiloswb liamT 10:05
liamTola10:43
Symmetriaheh wheeeee10:45
Symmetriaso my 2 new 29" screens arrive tomorrow and I just re-arranged everything so I had a place to put em10:45
Symmetriahttp://www.alstonnetworks.net/temp/20131029_122151.jpg <=== check it out ;p the 2 x 29" will go in the middle 10:45
psyatwhi Symmetria10:52
psyatwcool :)10:52
magespawnright back from lunch10:57
Kilosdo they feed you or do you take your own?10:58
Symmetriaheh that pic obviously doesnt show the rest of the backend equipment (fiber switches, the sound system setup linked to it, the primary wireless setups etc)10:58
magespawnthey feed me10:58
Kilosthats cool10:58
Kilosdont get fat now10:58
magespawnSymmetria, do you know anything about asterisk?10:58
magespawntoo much running for that Kilos 10:58
Symmetriamagespawn no, next to nothing 10:59
Symmetriasorry mate 10:59
magespawnthat sucks10:59
Symmetrialol man I cant wait for my 2 x 29" screens to arrive tomorrow10:59
Symmetriathey have a resolution of 2560x1080p each10:59
Symmetriaso ultrawide 10:59
Symmetriawhich pushes my total desktop resolution to 8960 horizontal excluding the 1920 on my tv 11:00
magespawnone desktop across all of them ?11:02
Symmetriayeah11:03
Symmetriaheh, I have some insanely powerful video cards so I can actually drive 8 screens directly off my machine11:04
magespawnnice you might need neck surgery soon though11:04
Kiloshahaha11:04
Symmetrialol, I wanna replace the 2 27s and then add another 2 29s above the 4 29s at the bottom 11:05
Symmetriathen I can drive 6 x 29 and 1 x 60" tv11:05
Symmetria;p11:05
* mazal peeks in quickly12:40
Symmetriaheh I am so glad they came out with proper uncapped in south africa12:41
SymmetriaI chew 10gigs a day just on constant vc 12:41
mazalEnjoy the evening all12:49
mazalcheers12:49
Symmetriaholy shit I hate paperwork13:59
tal0nhi everyone14:43
Symmetrialo tal0n14:45
* Symmetria bounces around, tomorrow for my new monitors yay14:45
tal0nhaha14:45
tal0nthe 4x29" guys?14:46
Symmetria2 x 29" to supplement what I currently got14:46
Symmetriahttp://www.alstonnetworks.net/temp/20131029_122151.jpg14:46
tal0nepic14:46
Symmetriathey will go between those 2 :)14:46
Symmetria(to give you an idea of scale, thats a 60" TV above those 2 monitors)14:46
tal0no.m.s.14:47
tal0nthats awesome14:47
Symmetrialol its gonna look truely awesome with the 2 29"s there14:48
tal0nindeed!14:48
tal0nwhat card do you have driving those?14:49
Symmetriaheh, 2 cards actually14:49
SymmetriaSLI'ed14:49
SymmetriaGTX960s 14:49
Symmetriaooops 690's14:49
tal0nlol 14:49
tal0nnice14:49
Symmetriaheh the machine itself has 64gigs of ram, 2 x GTX690 video cards, and a 6 core i7 3960K cpu 14:50
Symmetriaand 6 x 3TB disks in the desktop machine14:50
Symmetriathen 3 further servers, with 6 x 4TB disks in each of them, each with 64gigs of ram and the same CPU as the desktop machine (but without the insane graphics power)14:50
* tal0n looks down at his pc and sighs14:51
Symmetriathen the servers stream to the 60" TV using plex, and the TV has an optical passthrough for the audio into the hifi system14:51
Symmetriaand just passes the DTS straight through an optical cable into the Yamaha amp14:51
Symmetriawhich in turn is linked to Paradigm series 7 surround speakers 14:52
Symmetria;p14:52
tal0nno shortage of awesome over there!14:52
Symmetria;p it ensures that my neighbors always have good taste in music, no matter if they like it or not ;p14:52
tal0nhahaha14:52
Symmetriaoh, I also have a 1080p cisco telepresence video con unit linked to the TV14:53
Symmetria:)14:53
Symmetriaso I can high def video conference outta here 14:53
tal0nmust admit, thats a pretty sick setup you have over there!14:55
tal0nhey you don't know anything about vpn by any chance?14:55
Symmetriadepends what you wanna know14:55
tal0nor another solution, trying to remote desktop my sister's windows 7 pc over the net to help her out, never remote desktoped before14:56
Symmetriaaahh and she's behind NAT?14:56
Symmetriashe'd need to port forward on her router and hten enable rdp on the windows box14:57
tal0nwhat do i forward the ports to?14:58
Symmetriaumm lemme get you the ports etc14:58
tal0nthanks!14:59
Symmetriahttp://windows.microsoft.com/en-ZA/windows7/allow-remote-desktop-connections-from-outside-your-home-network14:59
tal0nawesome, thanks. will go try it out. was struggling to find this for some reason15:00
Vince-0compensating for something? 15:01
Symmetriavince heh, actually its a really useful work setup15:01
Vince-0no games?15:01
Symmetriaheh, not really, dont really have time, work and watching tv and movies mostly15:02
Vince-0battlefield 4 preload today!15:02
tal0nwhat kind of work do you do?15:02
tal0nVince-0: hooah!15:02
Vince-0I'm out!15:02
Symmetriatal0n Im in the networking field, well15:03
Symmetriathough to truely explain what I do, lol, thats a little complicated15:03
Symmetriamy latest official title is head of IP strategy 15:03
tal0nhaha sounds legit ;)15:03
Symmetriatal0n lol, I design, build and rollout extremely high speed networks15:04
Symmetriaas well as get involved in all the strategic aspects involved with building such things from a commercial perspective15:04
Symmetriaand then do the planning behind things like peering and how to keep traffic local etc15:04
Symmetria*shrug* it keeps me busy, money is good and I get to see the world, so all in all, its a good enough life :)15:05
tal0nthat sounds pretty cool. ive been doing a networking module this semester (studying part time) and its been seriously interesting.15:06
tal0ni can imagine its quite rewarding as well when a network is up and running15:07
Symmetriaheh yeah, it gets pretty damn tiring though with all the travel15:08
Symmetriaits funny, I have this awesome setup at home, but IM only home for like, a week every month or 2 ;p15:08
tal0nim sure, lol15:08
tal0nsuppose you get to play with some nice things though ;)15:14
Symmetrialol, yeah the toys are nice15:14
inetproif only that stuff was all open source15:21
inetprobtw has anyone found a Visio replacement yet?15:22
inetproI must say draw.io [http://www.draw.io/] is coming along very nicely15:24
magespawnlater all home time15:28
inetpromagespawn: wb15:29
magespawnty inetpro 15:29
magespawnwill be stopping in again more regularly from now on15:30
inetpronice15:30
magespawncheers15:30
inetprosee you laters15:31
Symmetriaheh well, inetpro, technically junos is built on bsd15:33
Symmetriawhile junos itself isn't opensource, its so bsd based that you can package add the router operating system under bsd 15:33
Symmetriaand it wil reboot as a non-hardware accelerated router 15:33
Symmetriathat is fully functional15:33
Symmetriaits known as an olive installation, and on a decent spec pc, you can do gigabit speeds throgh it with full bgp and mpls running15:34
inetproSymmetria: but plex is not floss, is it?15:35
Symmetriaoh plex media server? mmm Im not sure if the server is, but I know xmbc is and does pretty much the same job15:36
Symmetriabut plex is completely free, opensource or not 15:36
Symmetria(and its still the best damn media server I've ever seen)15:37
inetprointeresting15:39
Kilosoyhi kbmonkey 16:06
kbmonkeyhello16:07
kbmonkeywb Kilos 16:07
Kilosty , been trying to do a remastersys iso but kde wont burn it either16:07
Kilosgrrr16:07
Kilosi get so cross16:08
Kilosi dont believe the dvdwr is packed up16:08
Kilosused xp and did a diskcopy on cd16:09
Kilossurely the burning stuff is the same for cd and dvd16:09
kbmonkeyi just had a  though about that: what filesystem type is the remastered iso formatted as?16:09
kbmonkeyrun 'file yourfile.iso'16:10
kbmonkeyI can't believe it is only Tuesday!16:11
kbmonkeyphew16:11
kbmonkeysigh16:11
Kiloshow do i see the format16:12
Kilosraw CD image (application/x-cd-image)16:13
kbmonkeylinux-gamers-live_0.9.6.iso: # ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'lglive-096                      ' (bootable)16:13
Kilosbut it worked before16:13
kbmonkeycan you tell remastersys the output format?16:14
Kilosthen i reinstalled when the drives crashed with the psu prob16:14
Kiloseplain that please16:14
Kilosexplain too16:14
kbmonkeyexplain?16:14
Kiloscan you tell remastersys the output format?16:15
kbmonkeyno I am asking, I do not have remastersys so I am asking if it can, lol16:15
kbmonkeyin it's options...16:15
kbmonkeywhat options does it have to specify the output iso format16:15
kbmonkeychange it from raw to iso966016:15
Kilosi dunno. its not supported anymore so maybe the site gives bad stuffs when you install it now16:15
Kilosgrrr16:15
kbmonkeyeish16:16
Kiloswow how would one change that format16:16
Kilosk3b did say opc error : doesnt like the media16:16
Kilosor something like that16:17
Kilosso is it the dvd it dont like or the iso file16:17
Kilosbut it runs checksum and all, only when you click burn it spits dvd out16:18
kbmonkeyas far as I know to write a RAW iso to disc you need a matching BIN or CUE file that describes the layout of the ISO to burn16:18
kbmonkeyiso9660 has this information built-in16:18
kbmonkeyunderstand?16:18
Kiloskinda16:18
kbmonkeyso when running remaster, you can't tell it to make an iso9600 compatible file instead?16:19
Kilosi dont think so16:19
Kiloswill go look16:19
kbmonkeyI am probably wrong Kilos 16:19
kbmonkeyhang on16:19
Kilosoh16:20
* Kilos hangs on16:20
kbmonkeylol16:20
kbmonkeyyes I am wrong man. sorry. you should be able to burn it16:20
kbmonkeyit's size is smaller than a dvd?16:20
Kilosoh ya 2.3G16:21
Kilosmy last kde one i did was 3.716:21
kbmonkeyhave you burned any other discs since?16:22
Kilosnope i thought i had everything i needed16:23
kbmonkeyburner broken??16:23
Kilosbut i did it the backup setting not the dist option16:23
Kilosi dunno thats why i tried to copy a cd in it on xp and it worked16:24
Kilosi have xp on first 20g of this drive to cover the area that linux doesnt fancy16:26
Kilosonly 3 bad sectors16:27
kbmonkeyhmm16:30
kbmonkeygee I don't know what to say Kilos 16:30
kbmonkeyGoogle is of not much help, 16:30
kbmonkeyit is all unanswered topics or broken hardware16:30
Kilosnp kbmonkey lol ive google me sick already16:30
kbmonkeyburn it in xp?16:30
kbmonkeytry that16:30
kbmonkeyjust for kicks16:31
Kilosi can try that i spose16:31
Kilosput the iso onna stick then copy to xp16:31
kbmonkeycould be a bug in the kernel or dvd driver that is breaking it. it is not completely impossible16:31
kbmonkeyit is the world we live in where hardware vendors do not oficially support their hardware :(16:32
kbmonkeysorry Kilos 16:32
Kilosya can be. been about 3 upgrades since i burned the last one16:32
Kilosnp man16:32
Kilosty for looking16:32
Kiloshi Xethron 16:32
kbmonkeywelcoem back tal0n 16:32
Kilosohi tal0n 16:33
Kiloshow come you here on a work night kbmonkey ?16:33
tal0nhi Kilos, ty kbmonkey 16:33
Kilosoh btw after a reboot the wget curry was in home16:33
kbmonkeygood :]16:34
kbmonkeyI was meant to bake biscuits tonight. but forgot to get ingredients.16:34
Kiloslol id already gone to the site and copied it there too16:34
Kilosaw16:34
kbmonkeyman I am hungry16:54
kbmonkeygoing to eat some thing. banana stew?16:54
Kiloslol17:21
Kilostwit17:21
SymmetriaI hate modern hardware sometimes :(17:22
Symmetriawanted to watch a movie, turned on my amp and my tv and they both go "Updating firmware... please wait"17:22
Symmetria;p and the damn amp recons it could take 20 minutes to do that17:22
Kiloslol17:22
tal0nhehe17:26
superflytumbleweed: ping?17:29
superflyhi Xethron!17:29
* superfly is having dependency issues :-(17:34
tumbleweedsuperfly: hello18:09
superflytumbleweed: hi, got a problem with dependencies in Debian unstable... I'm trying to install the 32-bit version of libGL.so, but when I try to install the 32-bit package it wants to remove the 64-bit package18:10
superflylet me get a paste for you18:10
superflyhttp://pastebin.com/s54aNfbR18:11
tumbleweedsuperfly: the package needs to be marked "Multi-Arch: same" to be co-installed18:11
tumbleweedthat's the one from unstable? apt-cache show?18:12
tumbleweedsuperfly: try "apt-get install libgl1-nvidia-glx libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386" it will tell apt exactly what you want, and it'll tell you why it can't do it18:13
superflyhrm... "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."18:14
superflytumbleweed: which mirror do you use?18:15
superflymaybe the mirror I'm using is wonky18:15
tumbleweedcheck for held packages? do an apt-get -f install?18:15
tumbleweedI jump around a bit, but generally ftp.wa18:16
tumbleweed(because it's close)18:16
superflyah. I'm using ftp.wa18:23
superflytumbleweed: nope, it says it's fine18:23
superflytumbleweed: it looks like the amd64 package is 319.60-2 while hte i386 package is 319.60-118:30
superflyand they don't like that18:32
tumbleweedaha18:43
tumbleweedyes, that's not possible18:44
superflytumbleweed: changed my source to ftp.uk, got a bunch of packages to upgrade, and now my package will install without trying to take my video drivers with it19:32
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:36

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