[05:24] <nuvolari> o/ mornings
[05:59] <Squirm> morning
[06:03] <Squirm> how are things nuvolari 
[06:36] <nuvolari> hi Squirm, things are well, and you?
[06:37] <Squirm> nuvolari: very well thanks :)
[06:37] <Squirm> heading up past you on Friday
[06:37] <Squirm> well, heading up way past you
[06:38] <inetpro> goeie more
[06:38] <inetpro> Maaz: tell Kilos Goeie More Oom
[06:38] <Maaz> inetpro: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[06:38] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[06:38] <Maaz> Kilos: By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell Kilos Goeie More Oom" 14 seconds ago
[06:38] <Squirm> morning Kilos 
[06:39] <Kilos> hi Squirm inetpro 
[06:43] <nuvolari> hallo inetpro, oom Kilos 
[06:43] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[06:43] <nuvolari> why only past me Squirm? :-/
[06:44] <Squirm> nuvolari: heading up to Hluhluwe
[06:58] <superfly> guten morgen Kilos
[06:58] <superfly> Squirm: you can meet up with magespawn
[06:59] <Squirm> superfly: was thinking that
[06:59] <Squirm> but
[06:59] <Squirm> Maaz: seen magespawn
[06:59] <Maaz> Squirm: magespawn was last seen 16 days, 16 hours, 45 minutes and 29 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-10-12 16:13:56 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-10-12 16:14:03 SAST
[07:07] <Kilos> he isnt even answering mail
[07:07] <Kilos> hope he be ok
[07:07] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[07:14] <Kilos> hows the head superfly ?
[07:15] <Symmetria> sup
[07:15] <Kilos> hi Symmetria 
[07:15] <superfly> Kilos: beter dankie
[07:15] <Kilos> yay
[07:17] <Symmetria> superfly what happened to your head? lol, 2 much booze?
[07:17] <Kilos> migraine 
[07:18] <Symmetria> ahhh not cool
[07:18] <Kilos> nope
[07:18] <Symmetria> I can sympathize with that :) lol, never sympathize with hangovers though because those are self inflicted ;p (I know I have a habit of inflicting them on myself)
[07:18] <Symmetria> haha
[07:18] <Kilos> haha
[07:19] <Kilos> all that money wasted, and you get no benefits from it
[07:19] <Symmetria> so I was sitting in the smoking lounge at the hilton hotel in amsterdam last week, and saw the funniest thing I think I have ever seen
[07:19] <Kilos> tell
[07:19] <Symmetria> ;p 20 little chinese men smoking vast quantities of weed, giggling at each other and stuffing their faces full of cheethos ;p
[07:20] <Symmetria> there was something just so wrong, and at the same time so sterotypical and so hilarious about that situation, especially sitting in a 5 star hotel 
[07:20] <Kilos> eish
[07:22] <Symmetria> hehehe then again, its amsterdam
[07:22] <Symmetria> you see strange things there all the time
[07:23] <Symmetria> they have even legalized cocaine in amsterdam now
[07:23] <Kilos> wow, they encourage druggies?
[07:24] <superfly> Symmetria: I don't drink
[07:25] <Symmetria> kilos lol, in amsterdam there is this little concept that I think the rest of the world should embrace, its the concept of self responsibility
[07:25] <Symmetria> you can do what you want, but you're responsible for your own actions and the state isn't gonna nanny you, if you wanna screw yourself up, thats your choice 
[07:26] <Kilos> some peeps have none so they have to be ruled
[07:26] <Symmetria> and it works, the dutch themselves smoke very little weed, its mostly smoked by foreigners in holland 
[07:26] <Symmetria> its the same way that the dutch legalized any and all forms of prostitution, its legal, its regulated, its taxed, and again, its mostly the foreigners taking advantage of it
[07:27] <Symmetria> but it makes the government billions and because of the regulations all the health checks and everything are there so its also far safer than the situation we sit with
[07:27] <Symmetria> lol, amsterdam = whole other world, you can even buy magic mushrooms in the supermarket
[07:28] <Kilos> those things the mexicans eatto get goofed?
[07:33] <Squirm> yep
[07:33] <Squirm> I don't know if it's just mexicans though
[07:33] <Kilos> peyote or something
[07:33] <Squirm> I've been offered shrooms at Splashy :P
[07:34] <Kilos> not good to do anything that impares brain function
[07:35] <Squirm> you tell that to everyone who drinks as well?
[07:37] <Symmetria> heh kilos, well, there is a lot of research to show that weed is a lot safer than booze :)
[07:37] <Symmetria> and a lot less addictive
[07:37] <Symmetria> ;p
[07:37] <Symmetria> "... very dark, is the other side, very dark..."
[07:37] <Kilos> haha
[07:37] <Symmetria> "shuddup yoda and eat your bloody toast"
[08:12] <Vince-0> whoot Telkoom fixed my DSL this morning
[08:12] <Vince-0> only took 5 days
[08:13] <Kilos> hi tinuva Vince-0 
[08:13] <Kilos> thats good Vince-0 
[08:42] <Squirm> I can't wait
[09:30] <magespawn> howdy all
[09:30] <magespawn> hi Kilos 
[09:31] <Kilos> ohi magespawn where you been
[09:32] <psyatw> hello magespawn
[09:32] <magespawn> working, and no airtime for home use
[09:32] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[09:32] <psyatw> hola space_
[09:32] <magespawn> hi psyatw 
[09:32] <Kilos> aw
[09:32] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[09:32] <psyatw> I haven´t been that talkative here outside of work either
[09:33] <psyatw> what have you been doing at work, magespawn?
[09:33] <magespawn> really struggling with an asterisk server
[09:33] <psyatw> oh, but it works now?
[09:34] <magespawn> it was working when i got here, but i cannot make it do what i want
[09:34] <Kilos> rev Symmetria maybe he knows them
[09:34] <magespawn> learning curve is a tad insane
[09:35] <Kilos> are you able to get documentation or help at least
[09:36] <psyatw> yeah, I know
[09:36] <psyatw> everything takes quite a bit of time to study
[09:37] <Squirm> oh look, magespawn 
[09:37] <Squirm> long time
[09:38] <magespawn> plenty of documentation, thats part of the problem
[09:38] <magespawn> hi Squirm 
[09:38] <Squirm> Asterisk is fun :P
[09:39] <Squirm> though all I've done is followed a how-to guide on setting up a SIP server
[09:39] <Squirm> and played with Elastix
[09:40] <magespawn> hold on a sec
[09:44] <magespawn> here is the extensions.conf http://slexy.org/view/s2Xoeb0Lzc
[09:44] <psyatw> I had only heard of vocal by vovida and gnu bayonne before
[09:46] <Squirm> means nothing to me :P
[09:46] <Kilos> ai!
[09:46] <Kilos> thats to all the fones?
[09:47] <Squirm> psyatw: Asterisk is quite popular
[09:47] <Squirm> Kilos: it would be
[09:47] <psyatw> Squirm, I know, I heard about it a few years ago
[09:48] <Squirm> [11:44:30] .:psyatw:. I had only heard of vocal by vovida and gnu bayonne before
[09:48] <Squirm> ?
[09:48] <magespawn> and the sip.conf slexy.org/view/s2uhEY6pyC
[09:49] <Squirm> ah
[09:49] <Squirm> so extensions handle the analogue lines
[09:49] <Squirm> and obviously sip handles the voip extensions
[09:49] <Squirm> the internal stuff
[09:49] <magespawn> now my problem is to get the last four entries in the sip.conf  the 104,105 and 106 to only call each other
[09:50] <magespawn> 104 is the recption phone for intercom and the 105 and 106 are sip door phones
[09:50] <magespawn> at the moment they dial the main switchboard at 100
[09:50] <magespawn> which i think is controlled by the extensions.conf
[09:51] <psyatw> Squirm, I´ve got an O´Reilly book about VOCAL that I brought from India back in 2003, my mother actually brought it to Poland for me
[09:51] <psyatw> http://vovida.sourceforge.net/
[09:52] <Squirm> sip doorphones, that's cool
[09:53] <magespawn> yes but i do not want them to dial tha main reception switchboard but a dedicated phone
[09:54] <magespawn> they are these http://www.miro.co.za/detail.aspx?pid=2066&p=VoIP&sp=IP%20Phones&spp=Door%20Phones&spid=187&sspid=669
[09:55] <magespawn> and you can send a signal from the phone that answers the doorphone to open a gate/door
[09:58] <magespawn> going for lunch brb
[10:05] <Kilos> wb liamT 
[10:43] <liamT> ola
[10:45] <Symmetria> heh wheeeee
[10:45] <Symmetria> so my 2 new 29" screens arrive tomorrow and I just re-arranged everything so I had a place to put em
[10:45] <Symmetria> http://www.alstonnetworks.net/temp/20131029_122151.jpg <[10:52] <psyatw> hi Symmetria
[10:52] <psyatw> cool :)
[10:57] <magespawn> right back from lunch
[10:58] <Kilos> do they feed you or do you take your own?
[10:58] <Symmetria> heh that pic obviously doesnt show the rest of the backend equipment (fiber switches, the sound system setup linked to it, the primary wireless setups etc)
[10:58] <magespawn> they feed me
[10:58] <Kilos> thats cool
[10:58] <Kilos> dont get fat now
[10:58] <magespawn> Symmetria, do you know anything about asterisk?
[10:58] <magespawn> too much running for that Kilos 
[10:59] <Symmetria> magespawn no, next to nothing 
[10:59] <Symmetria> sorry mate 
[10:59] <magespawn> that sucks
[10:59] <Symmetria> lol man I cant wait for my 2 x 29" screens to arrive tomorrow
[10:59] <Symmetria> they have a resolution of 2560x1080p each
[10:59] <Symmetria> so ultrawide 
[11:00] <Symmetria> which pushes my total desktop resolution to 8960 horizontal excluding the 1920 on my tv 
[11:02] <magespawn> one desktop across all of them ?
[11:03] <Symmetria> yeah
[11:04] <Symmetria> heh, I have some insanely powerful video cards so I can actually drive 8 screens directly off my machine
[11:04] <magespawn> nice you might need neck surgery soon though
[11:04] <Kilos> hahaha
[11:05] <Symmetria> lol, I wanna replace the 2 27s and then add another 2 29s above the 4 29s at the bottom 
[11:05] <Symmetria> then I can drive 6 x 29 and 1 x 60" tv
[11:05] <Symmetria> ;p
[12:40]  * mazal peeks in quickly
[12:41] <Symmetria> heh I am so glad they came out with proper uncapped in south africa
[12:41] <Symmetria> I chew 10gigs a day just on constant vc 
[12:49] <mazal> Enjoy the evening all
[12:49] <mazal> cheers
[13:59] <Symmetria> holy shit I hate paperwork
[14:43] <tal0n> hi everyone
[14:45] <Symmetria> lo tal0n
[14:45]  * Symmetria bounces around, tomorrow for my new monitors yay
[14:45] <tal0n> haha
[14:46] <tal0n> the 4x29" guys?
[14:46] <Symmetria> 2 x 29" to supplement what I currently got
[14:46] <Symmetria> http://www.alstonnetworks.net/temp/20131029_122151.jpg
[14:46] <tal0n> epic
[14:46] <Symmetria> they will go between those 2 :)
[14:46] <Symmetria> (to give you an idea of scale, thats a 60" TV above those 2 monitors)
[14:47] <tal0n> o.m.s.
[14:47] <tal0n> thats awesome
[14:48] <Symmetria> lol its gonna look truely awesome with the 2 29"s there
[14:48] <tal0n> indeed!
[14:49] <tal0n> what card do you have driving those?
[14:49] <Symmetria> heh, 2 cards actually
[14:49] <Symmetria> SLI'ed
[14:49] <Symmetria> GTX960s 
[14:49] <Symmetria> ooops 690's
[14:49] <tal0n> lol 
[14:49] <tal0n> nice
[14:50] <Symmetria> heh the machine itself has 64gigs of ram, 2 x GTX690 video cards, and a 6 core i7 3960K cpu 
[14:50] <Symmetria> and 6 x 3TB disks in the desktop machine
[14:50] <Symmetria> then 3 further servers, with 6 x 4TB disks in each of them, each with 64gigs of ram and the same CPU as the desktop machine (but without the insane graphics power)
[14:51]  * tal0n looks down at his pc and sighs
[14:51] <Symmetria> then the servers stream to the 60" TV using plex, and the TV has an optical passthrough for the audio into the hifi system
[14:51] <Symmetria> and just passes the DTS straight through an optical cable into the Yamaha amp
[14:52] <Symmetria> which in turn is linked to Paradigm series 7 surround speakers 
[14:52] <Symmetria> ;p
[14:52] <tal0n> no shortage of awesome over there!
[14:52] <Symmetria> ;p it ensures that my neighbors always have good taste in music, no matter if they like it or not ;p
[14:52] <tal0n> hahaha
[14:53] <Symmetria> oh, I also have a 1080p cisco telepresence video con unit linked to the TV
[14:53] <Symmetria> :)
[14:53] <Symmetria> so I can high def video conference outta here 
[14:55] <tal0n> must admit, thats a pretty sick setup you have over there!
[14:55] <tal0n> hey you don't know anything about vpn by any chance?
[14:55] <Symmetria> depends what you wanna know
[14:56] <tal0n> or another solution, trying to remote desktop my sister's windows 7 pc over the net to help her out, never remote desktoped before
[14:56] <Symmetria> aahh and she's behind NAT?
[14:57] <Symmetria> she'd need to port forward on her router and hten enable rdp on the windows box
[14:58] <tal0n> what do i forward the ports to?
[14:58] <Symmetria> umm lemme get you the ports etc
[14:59] <tal0n> thanks!
[14:59] <Symmetria> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ZA/windows7/allow-remote-desktop-connections-from-outside-your-home-network
[15:00] <tal0n> awesome, thanks. will go try it out. was struggling to find this for some reason
[15:01] <Vince-0> compensating for something? 
[15:01] <Symmetria> vince heh, actually its a really useful work setup
[15:01] <Vince-0> no games?
[15:02] <Symmetria> heh, not really, dont really have time, work and watching tv and movies mostly
[15:02] <Vince-0> battlefield 4 preload today!
[15:02] <tal0n> what kind of work do you do?
[15:02] <tal0n> Vince-0: hooah!
[15:02] <Vince-0> I'm out!
[15:03] <Symmetria> tal0n Im in the networking field, well
[15:03] <Symmetria> though to truely explain what I do, lol, thats a little complicated
[15:03] <Symmetria> my latest official title is head of IP strategy 
[15:03] <tal0n> haha sounds legit ;)
[15:04] <Symmetria> tal0n lol, I design, build and rollout extremely high speed networks
[15:04] <Symmetria> as well as get involved in all the strategic aspects involved with building such things from a commercial perspective
[15:04] <Symmetria> and then do the planning behind things like peering and how to keep traffic local etc
[15:05] <Symmetria> *shrug* it keeps me busy, money is good and I get to see the world, so all in all, its a good enough life :)
[15:06] <tal0n> that sounds pretty cool. ive been doing a networking module this semester (studying part time) and its been seriously interesting.
[15:07] <tal0n> i can imagine its quite rewarding as well when a network is up and running
[15:08] <Symmetria> heh yeah, it gets pretty damn tiring though with all the travel
[15:08] <Symmetria> its funny, I have this awesome setup at home, but IM only home for like, a week every month or 2 ;p
[15:08] <tal0n> im sure, lol
[15:14] <tal0n> suppose you get to play with some nice things though ;)
[15:14] <Symmetria> lol, yeah the toys are nice
[15:21] <inetpro> if only that stuff was all open source
[15:22] <inetpro> btw has anyone found a Visio replacement yet?
[15:24] <inetpro> I must say draw.io [http://www.draw.io/] is coming along very nicely
[15:28] <magespawn> later all home time
[15:29] <inetpro> magespawn: wb
[15:29] <magespawn> ty inetpro 
[15:30] <magespawn> will be stopping in again more regularly from now on
[15:30] <inetpro> nice
[15:30] <magespawn> cheers
[15:31] <inetpro> see you laters
[15:33] <Symmetria> heh well, inetpro, technically junos is built on bsd
[15:33] <Symmetria> while junos itself isn't opensource, its so bsd based that you can package add the router operating system under bsd 
[15:33] <Symmetria> and it wil reboot as a non-hardware accelerated router 
[15:33] <Symmetria> that is fully functional
[15:34] <Symmetria> its known as an olive installation, and on a decent spec pc, you can do gigabit speeds throgh it with full bgp and mpls running
[15:35] <inetpro> Symmetria: but plex is not floss, is it?
[15:36] <Symmetria> oh plex media server? mmm Im not sure if the server is, but I know xmbc is and does pretty much the same job
[15:36] <Symmetria> but plex is completely free, opensource or not 
[15:37] <Symmetria> (and its still the best damn media server I've ever seen)
[15:39] <inetpro> interesting
[16:06] <Kilos> oyhi kbmonkey 
[16:07] <kbmonkey> hello
[16:07] <kbmonkey> wb Kilos 
[16:07] <Kilos> ty , been trying to do a remastersys iso but kde wont burn it either
[16:07] <Kilos> grrr
[16:08] <Kilos> i get so cross
[16:08] <Kilos> i dont believe the dvdwr is packed up
[16:09] <Kilos> used xp and did a diskcopy on cd
[16:09] <Kilos> surely the burning stuff is the same for cd and dvd
[16:09] <kbmonkey> i just had a  though about that: what filesystem type is the remastered iso formatted as?
[16:10] <kbmonkey> run 'file yourfile.iso'
[16:11] <kbmonkey> I can't believe it is only Tuesday!
[16:11] <kbmonkey> phew
[16:11] <kbmonkey> sigh
[16:12] <Kilos> how do i see the format
[16:13] <Kilos> raw CD image (application/x-cd-image)
[16:13] <kbmonkey> linux-gamers-live_0.9.6.iso: # ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'lglive-096                      ' (bootable)
[16:13] <Kilos> but it worked before
[16:14] <kbmonkey> can you tell remastersys the output format?
[16:14] <Kilos> then i reinstalled when the drives crashed with the psu prob
[16:14] <Kilos> eplain that please
[16:14] <Kilos> explain too
[16:14] <kbmonkey> explain?
[16:15] <Kilos> can you tell remastersys the output format?
[16:15] <kbmonkey> no I am asking, I do not have remastersys so I am asking if it can, lol
[16:15] <kbmonkey> in it's options...
[16:15] <kbmonkey> what options does it have to specify the output iso format
[16:15] <kbmonkey> change it from raw to iso9660
[16:15] <Kilos> i dunno. its not supported anymore so maybe the site gives bad stuffs when you install it now
[16:15] <Kilos> grrr
[16:16] <kbmonkey> eish
[16:16] <Kilos> wow how would one change that format
[16:16] <Kilos> k3b did say opc error : doesnt like the media
[16:17] <Kilos> or something like that
[16:17] <Kilos> so is it the dvd it dont like or the iso file
[16:18] <Kilos> but it runs checksum and all, only when you click burn it spits dvd out
[16:18] <kbmonkey> as far as I know to write a RAW iso to disc you need a matching BIN or CUE file that describes the layout of the ISO to burn
[16:18] <kbmonkey> iso9660 has this information built-in
[16:18] <kbmonkey> understand?
[16:18] <Kilos> kinda
[16:19] <kbmonkey> so when running remaster, you can't tell it to make an iso9600 compatible file instead?
[16:19] <Kilos> i dont think so
[16:19] <Kilos> will go look
[16:19] <kbmonkey> I am probably wrong Kilos 
[16:19] <kbmonkey> hang on
[16:20] <Kilos> oh
[16:20]  * Kilos hangs on
[16:20] <kbmonkey> lol
[16:20] <kbmonkey> yes I am wrong man. sorry. you should be able to burn it
[16:20] <kbmonkey> it's size is smaller than a dvd?
[16:21] <Kilos> oh ya 2.3G
[16:21] <Kilos> my last kde one i did was 3.7
[16:22] <kbmonkey> have you burned any other discs since?
[16:23] <Kilos> nope i thought i had everything i needed
[16:23] <kbmonkey> burner broken??
[16:23] <Kilos> but i did it the backup setting not the dist option
[16:24] <Kilos> i dunno thats why i tried to copy a cd in it on xp and it worked
[16:26] <Kilos> i have xp on first 20g of this drive to cover the area that linux doesnt fancy
[16:27] <Kilos> only 3 bad sectors
[16:30] <kbmonkey> hmm
[16:30] <kbmonkey> gee I don't know what to say Kilos 
[16:30] <kbmonkey> Google is of not much help, 
[16:30] <kbmonkey> it is all unanswered topics or broken hardware
[16:30] <Kilos> np kbmonkey lol ive google me sick already
[16:30] <kbmonkey> burn it in xp?
[16:30] <kbmonkey> try that
[16:31] <kbmonkey> just for kicks
[16:31] <Kilos> i can try that i spose
[16:31] <Kilos> put the iso onna stick then copy to xp
[16:31] <kbmonkey> could be a bug in the kernel or dvd driver that is breaking it. it is not completely impossible
[16:32] <kbmonkey> it is the world we live in where hardware vendors do not oficially support their hardware :(
[16:32] <kbmonkey> sorry Kilos 
[16:32] <Kilos> ya can be. been about 3 upgrades since i burned the last one
[16:32] <Kilos> np man
[16:32] <Kilos> ty for looking
[16:32] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[16:32] <kbmonkey> welcoem back tal0n 
[16:33] <Kilos> ohi tal0n 
[16:33] <Kilos> how come you here on a work night kbmonkey ?
[16:33] <tal0n> hi Kilos, ty kbmonkey 
[16:33] <Kilos> oh btw after a reboot the wget curry was in home
[16:34] <kbmonkey> good :]
[16:34] <kbmonkey> I was meant to bake biscuits tonight. but forgot to get ingredients.
[16:34] <Kilos> lol id already gone to the site and copied it there too
[16:34] <Kilos> aw
[16:54] <kbmonkey> man I am hungry
[16:54] <kbmonkey> going to eat some thing. banana stew?
[17:21] <Kilos> lol
[17:21] <Kilos> twit
[17:22] <Symmetria> I hate modern hardware sometimes :(
[17:22] <Symmetria> wanted to watch a movie, turned on my amp and my tv and they both go "Updating firmware... please wait"
[17:22] <Symmetria> ;p and the damn amp recons it could take 20 minutes to do that
[17:22] <Kilos> lol
[17:26] <tal0n> hehe
[17:29] <superfly> tumbleweed: ping?
[17:29] <superfly> hi Xethron!
[17:34]  * superfly is having dependency issues :-(
[18:09] <tumbleweed> superfly: hello
[18:10] <superfly> tumbleweed: hi, got a problem with dependencies in Debian unstable... I'm trying to install the 32-bit version of libGL.so, but when I try to install the 32-bit package it wants to remove the 64-bit package
[18:10] <superfly> let me get a paste for you
[18:11] <superfly> http://pastebin.com/s54aNfbR
[18:11] <tumbleweed> superfly: the package needs to be marked "Multi-Arch: same" to be co-installed
[18:12] <tumbleweed> that's the one from unstable? apt-cache show?
[18:13] <tumbleweed> superfly: try "apt-get install libgl1-nvidia-glx libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386" it will tell apt exactly what you want, and it'll tell you why it can't do it
[18:14] <superfly> hrm... "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[18:15] <superfly> tumbleweed: which mirror do you use?
[18:15] <superfly> maybe the mirror I'm using is wonky
[18:15] <tumbleweed> check for held packages? do an apt-get -f install?
[18:16] <tumbleweed> I jump around a bit, but generally ftp.wa
[18:16] <tumbleweed> (because it's close)
[18:23] <superfly> ah. I'm using ftp.wa
[18:23] <superfly> tumbleweed: nope, it says it's fine
[18:30] <superfly> tumbleweed: it looks like the amd64 package is 319.60-2 while hte i386 package is 319.60-1
[18:32] <superfly> and they don't like that
[18:43] <tumbleweed> aha
[18:44] <tumbleweed> yes, that's not possible
[19:32] <superfly> tumbleweed: changed my source to ftp.uk, got a bunch of packages to upgrade, and now my package will install without trying to take my video drivers with it
[19:36] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight