[00:04] <Valeness> Is there a way to remove an application listing from the menu with a CLI command?
[00:06] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: *usually* (and it doesn't have to be this way, it just often is) you're running the commands from the destination machine
[00:06] <nerium> I've a server that's currently having a load average of over 9
[00:06] <nerium> Can anyone see anything wrong in top output?
[00:06] <nerium> http://i.imgur.com/iWkgpNo.png
[00:06] <nerium> http://i.imgur.com/iWkgpNo.png
[00:06] <FloodBot1> nerium: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:06] <MrPPS> i.e., you're setting on machine "A", and pulling from "machine "B"
[00:06] <DANtheBEASTman> I'm transitioning from debian stable to ubuntu precise. somebody please explain to me how I'm supposed to get newer packages? on debian backporting was simple. on ubuntu it's proving to be a nightmare. I'd prefer not to use ppas that aren't maintained by upstream.
[00:06] <Yowl> I made a partition, but it seems to have been made with high restriction permission setting, How do i open up its permissions?
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  what filesystem did you put on it?
[00:07] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: ext4
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  then you need to use chown/chmod to have it owned by whatever users/groups you want to have access to it.
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> its not 'high restriction permissions' ;) its owned by root by default.
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> whats the mountpoint of the filesystem at this time?
[00:08] <Ubnoobtu> MrPPS I've ran the command on the pc I want receiving it, and it didn't ask for the PW or anything, its just thinking
[00:08] <Dem> hello
[00:08] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: what is your exact command?
[00:08] <omixam> How can install mtpfs?
[00:09] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: How So how do I chown it? Mount point? not sure, base level I guess
[00:09] <Ubnoobtu> MrPPS, sudo ssh connell@192.168.1.3
[00:09] <Dem> who likes ubuntu 13.10
[00:09] <k1l> Ubnoobtu: dont sudo ssh
[00:09] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: you don't need to run that as sudo
[00:09] <Ubnoobtu> its stopped
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  you mount a filesystem to some directory (which Must exist befor you mount it) then you chown/chmod that directory as needed
[00:09] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: second, just ssh'ing into it won't get you any files
[00:09] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: which computer are the files you want located?
[00:09] <MrPPS> and in which folder are they?
[00:09] <Ubnoobtu> it says connect to host ip.here.0.1. port 22: connection timed out
[00:09] <k1l> Ubnoobtu: dont use sudo with every command. think before using sudo
[00:09] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: Media\ and a really long number
[00:10] <omixam> which is the repossitory fo mtpfs?
[00:10] <heywood> experimenting with freeNX, just installed it on my 12.04 LTS box. i already have passwordless (key-based) ssh access set up to that machine. can i re-use the same keypair for freeNX?
[00:10] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: alright, let me give you a scenario
[00:10] <MrPPS> lets say you're using computer with ip address 192.168.1.3
[00:10] <MrPPS> and you want files on computer 192.168.1.8
[00:11] <MrPPS> the file that you want is located in the folder: /home/robert/IwantTHIS.jpg
[00:11] <MrPPS> so, you'd go to the terminal on your computer (the computer that is 192.168.1.3)
[00:11] <MrPPS> and you would type:
[00:12] <MrPPS> scp robert@192.168.1.8:/home/robert/IwantTHIS.jpg ./IwantTHIS.jpg
[00:12] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: and what that does, is the following
[00:12] <MrPPS> scp - says to use "SCP", which is a program to copy files over SSH
[00:12] <Garzak> Hello everyone. I have a problem with... Minecraft! I can access the launcher, but when I clic "Play", the Minecraft windows doesn't appear (I just get a "?" icon on the unity left pane). I tryed with openjdk 6/7, oracle-java 6/7, but still the same issue. Does anyone here have an idea please ? :p
[00:12] <MrPPS> second field tells it the location of the remote file, in the format user@host:/file/location
[00:12] <MrPPS> third field tells it where you want it to go locally
[00:12] <MrPPS> in this case, "./" just says current folder
[00:12] <nerium> Anyone?
[00:13] <MrPPS> and you can specify a name after that, or if you don't, it'll keep its original name
[00:13] <MrPPS> I hope that helps Ubnoobtu
[00:13] <Ubnoobtu> that clears up a lot,
[00:13] <Ubnoobtu> but how do i get past
[00:13] <Ubnoobtu> it says connect to host ip.here.0.1. port 22: connection timed out
[00:13] <MrPPS> that means your trying to connect to a machine which does not have SSH running
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  ie:     sudo mount /dev/sdd1   /media/sdd1
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  sudo chown bubba:bubba /media/sdd1
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  the long number is the uuid. You can mount it whever you want
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  the auto mounting system uses the UUID if the filesystem has no LABEL
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  so you can chown/chmod that /media/thenumber
[00:13] <MrPPS> if you copied and pasted that
[00:14] <MrPPS> ip.here.0.1
[00:14] <MrPPS> is not an ip address
[00:14] <Ubnoobtu> I was trying to connect to this one
[00:14] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: and if you redacted that, there's not really a need to
[00:14] <MrPPS> if it's on your LAN
[00:14] <Ubnoobtu> oh
[00:14] <MrPPS> because LAN addresses are not unique - they're used all over the world
[00:14] <Ubnoobtu> I'm worried, I read a lot about SSH services being a big help for hackers
[00:14] <MrPPS> so I could tell you mine is 10.136.218.25
[00:14] <MrPPS> but that means nothing, because it's a "private" address
[00:15] <Ubnoobtu> to get into your system if its unprotected
[00:15] <Ubnoobtu> i see
[00:15] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: additionally, even if you gave me your public IP address, I still don't know your password
[00:15] <MrPPS> so it's going to be much more effort than it's worth to break in :P
[00:15] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: But I did give the partition a label
[00:15] <MrPPS> but, LAN IP addresses are always safe to give away
[00:16] <themhz> ubuntu 13.10 is LTS?
[00:16] <Pici> themhz: no.
[00:17] <MrPPS> themhz: no, every 2 years
[00:17] <MrPPS> so 14.04 will be next
[00:17] <Ubnoobtu> okay, so the computer I am using is 192.168.1.8, I want the folders on 192.168.1.3, so I type spc -r connell@192.168.1.3:/home/connell/music to get the folder?
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> themhz: no ... lts is every 2 years ... i.e, 12.04, 14.04, 16.04 etc
[00:17] <Pici> themhz: 10.04, 12.04 etc
[00:17] <MrPPS> themhz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[00:17] <themhz> ok thank you
[00:17] <themhz> each year grows one V?
[00:17] <MrPPS> themhz: each .5 year
[00:17] <themhz> ok
[00:17] <themhz> thank you
[00:17] <Pici> themhz: The release numbers are the YEAR.MONTH of release
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> themhz: the versioning is Year.Month
[00:17] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: almost - you'd have to put the destination at the end of that
[00:18] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: also, I think you installed SSH in 192.168.1.8 before, but not on 192.168.1.3
[00:18] <MrPPS> so make sure it's installed on 192.168.1.3, or else you won't be able to connect to it
[00:18] <Ubnoobtu> I have ssh installed on both, is that bad?
[00:18] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: it's not
[00:18] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: was just making sure you had it installed is all
[00:18] <MrPPS> I have it installed on all my computers + servers
[00:18] <vcs> ./set theme pandemonium
[00:18] <MrPPS> so no need to worry :P
[00:19] <Guest2376> i have caffine running , and disable screensaver checked and my screensaver keeps activating, can someone assist
[00:19] <Ubnoobtu> okay, thanks, and should I reset the ssh services before I try to connect? or how can I make sure they are running coorectly?
[00:19] <vacho> I am setting up a linode for a LAMP server, should I go with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS or 13.10??
[00:19] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: you can type: sudo service status ssh
[00:19] <MrPPS> that will tell you if it's running
[00:19] <MrPPS> vacho: I'd suggest 12.04 LTS
[00:19] <MrPPS> then upgrade to 14.04 LTS when it comes up
[00:20] <MrPPS> iirc, there's an upgrade path from each LTS to the next
[00:20] <vacho> aight, got it
[00:20] <vacho> 12.04 is still being updated and supported right?
[00:20] <MrPPS> vacho: correct, I use it for my web and mail serveres
[00:20] <MrPPS> servers*
[00:20] <MrPPS> and am still regularly getting updates
[00:20] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: Is the Bubba:bubba if its named that? or is that part of the command?
[00:20] <Ubnoobtu> connell@connell-laptop:~$ sudo service status ssh [sudo] password for connell:  status: unrecognized service
[00:20] <MrPPS> and will do so until october 2017
[00:20] <Ubnoobtu> wtf, I know I installed it
[00:20] <vacho> MrPPS: aight, going to attend to install virtualmin/webmin
[00:20] <MrPPS> vacho: which you can see from that website I linked :)
[00:21] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: are you sure? try installing it again, and see what happens
[00:21] <Pici> !webmin | :(
[00:21] <vacho> MrPPS: didn't see any websit?
[00:21] <MrPPS> vacho: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[00:21] <MrPPS> :)
[00:21] <Ubnoobtu> connell@connell-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install openssh [sudo] password for connell:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package openssh
[00:21] <vacho> Pici: it says on webmin's site that it's supported?
[00:22] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: sudo apt-get install ssh
[00:22] <Pici> vacho: If you have any issues with it you'll need to take it up with them then. We don't support it here.
[00:22] <vacho> Pici: ok thanks for letting me know!
[00:22] <SmallR2002> also, openssh-server and openssh-client are the actual packages as I remember
[00:22] <vacho> maybe I should install it on debian then?
[00:22] <MrPPS> you're right SmallR2002, just ssh is quicker to type :P
[00:23] <Ubnoobtu> Setting up ssh (1:5.9p1-5ubuntu1.1) ... connell@connell-laptop:~$ sudo service status ssh status: unrecognized service connell@connell-laptop:~$
[00:23] <MrPPS> vacho: what do you want to "get out" of webmin?
[00:23] <MrPPS> i.e., reasononing bhind installing it?
[00:23] <SmallR2002> MrPPS: to be fair you might want client and not server
[00:23] <MrPPS> SmallR2002: issue is the remote server isn't accepting the connection
[00:23] <vacho> MrPPS: all the admin tools. so I don't have to deal with setting up virtualhsots etc.
[00:23] <MrPPS> which, to me, would indicate a lack of ssh server, rather than client?
[00:23] <SmallR2002> MrPPS: odd, does telnet work to the same port (firewall check)?
[00:24] <Ubnoobtu> okay, so how do I make sure ssh is running aggain, and how do I get it running if its not
[00:24] <MrPPS> SmallR2002: ask Ubnoobtu :P its his issue :)
[00:24] <SmallR2002> MrPPS: I'm so not paying attention
[00:24] <SmallR2002> :p
[00:24] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: you did it the wrong way around :P
[00:24] <Guest2376> Ubnoobtu: service sshd status
[00:24] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: sudo service ssh status
[00:24]  * Ubnoobtu shoots himself in the foot
[00:25] <MrPPS> Guest2376: sshd isn't the service name :)
[00:25] <MrPPS> SmallR2002: all good :)
[00:25] <Guest2376> MrPPS: thx
[00:25] <MrPPS> np
[00:25] <Ubnoobtu> okay here is the end result
[00:25] <Guest2376> MrPPS: shouldn't caffine disable xscreensaver
[00:26] <Ubnoobtu> nnell@connell-laptop:~$ sudo service ssh status ssh stop/waiting
[00:26] <vacho> "Fully update your system with the native package manager before beginning installation."
[00:26] <MrPPS> Guest2376: has nothing to do with me
[00:26] <MrPPS> :P
[00:26] <vacho> how do I do that from terminal in ubuntu?
[00:26] <MrPPS> vacho: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:26] <Ubnoobtu> should I try to connect now?
[00:26] <MrPPS> vacho: also, I've always done my virtual hosts by hand
[00:26] <vacho> thanks
[00:26] <Guest2376> MrPPS: ya it does, i asked you +-)
[00:26] <MrPPS> :P
[00:26] <MrPPS> Guest2376: oh sorry, thought you were trying to answer a question
[00:26] <MrPPS> haha
[00:27] <MrPPS> Guest2376: no idea, in that case, don't use caffeine
[00:27] <MrPPS> aside from in my coffee's
[00:27] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: so it's stopped, in that case
[00:27] <MrPPS> sudo service ssh start
[00:27] <cvtsx> hello
[00:27] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: do that ^
[00:27] <SmallR2002> I'm having fun installing Ubuntu on an old T20 with 128MB of RAM
[00:27] <SmallR2002> this is fun
[00:27] <SmallR2002> or something like that
[00:27] <Guest2376> hi all i have caffine on ubuntu 13.04 with xscreen saver, and i have caffine running with disable screen saver checked , but the screen saver is still activated , can someone assist
[00:28] <MrPPS> SmallR2002: I can't imagine the modern versions would run spectacularly on that by default
[00:28] <SmallR2002> MrPPS: net install, going for icewm and some stuff
[00:28] <MrPPS> ah that'll run alright then :)
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> SmallR2002: netinstall  server?
[00:28] <SmallR2002> MrPPS: I plan on upgrading it to a whole 512MB
[00:28] <MrPPS> personal laptop, SmallR2002 ?
[00:29] <SmallR2002> personal and just straight netinstall
[00:29] <SmallR2002> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[00:29] <SmallR2002> from there ^^
[00:29] <SmallR2002> it has been going for a little while now
[00:30] <SmallR2002> at the 'select and install software' process
[00:30] <SmallR2002> I'm running LVM and dm-crypt on there too
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  bubba is the users name for example
[00:31] <tuXtrack_> k
[00:31] <MrPPS> SmallR2002: you know, I've never actually done a net install
[00:31] <MrPPS> never had to
[00:31] <SmallR2002> MrPPS: that's the only way I install debian
[00:31] <SmallR2002> hardcore minimalist :p
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> extreme minimalism!
[00:32] <omixam> make: Nothing to be done for `all '. when I try to compile mtpfs....
[00:32] <SmallR2002> whenever someone says 'spin up a VM for that and we'll host it' at work it's the debian netinstall I go straight for
[00:33] <Ubnoobtu> So , made sure that ssh is running on both computers
[00:33] <cvtsx> How do i get winbuntu? (its like windows but slower)
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> cvtsx:  never heard of it. check its homepage for details i guess. since its not suppored here if its some ubuntu-spinoff
[00:33] <Ubnoobtu> and I ran the command ssh connell@192.168.1.3 and I got the same error, port 22:connection timed out
[00:33] <cvtsx> Ok thanks
[00:34] <DANtheBEASTman> I'm transitioning from debian stable to ubuntu precise. somebody please explain to me how I'm supposed to get newer packages? on debian backporting was simple. on ubuntu it's proving to be a nightmare. I'd prefer not to use ppas that aren't maintained by upstream developers
[00:34] <madMan_Xanadau> if i install ccsm, make changes, then uninstall ccsm... do i keep the changes?
[00:34] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: when you ran the "sudo service ssh status" command, did it return to say that it was "start/running"?
[00:34] <Ubnoobtu> on both machines, yes
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> DANtheBEASTman:  the backports repo might have some things. but in general theres not many official 'new versions' of packages for a given ubuntu relase
[00:35] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: alright, and just to confirm
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> DANtheBEASTman:  thats sort of the point of ppa's to let users get newer stuff of things they may want
[00:35] <Ubnoobtu> I just re ran it on the machine  im trying to get the files from, and its now says stopped waiting
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> !latest | DANtheBEASTman
[00:35] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: ah, well, try starting it again
[00:35] <MrPPS> ubottu: and immediately after starting it, check the status
[00:35] <MrPPS> sorry ubottu!
[00:35] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: ^^
[00:35] <cvtsx> i like bots
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> madMan_Xanadau: uninstalling it would be a bad idea it's barely stable if you mess with it anyway.
[00:36] <Ubnoobtu> Its stopped
[00:36] <madMan_Xanadau> wilee-nilee, i shal not use it, don't really need to lol ;\
[00:36] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: and you did run the commands sudo?
[00:36] <Ubnoobtu> yep
[00:37] <Ubnoobtu> connell@connell-laptop:~$ sudo service ssh status [sudo] password for connell:  ssh stop/waiting connell@connell-laptop:~$ sudo service ssh start ssh start/running, process 19048 connell@connell-laptop:~$ sudo service ssh status ssh stop/waiting connell@connell-laptop:~$
[00:37] <madMan_Xanadau> hey when I try to "sudo nautilus" i get a "IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/username/.config/ibus/bus is not root!"  but i am root.
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> madMan_Xanadau: gksudo that are you an admin in this account?
[00:39] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: perhaps try a reinstall on that system
[00:39] <MrPPS> sudo apt-get remove --purge ssh; sudo apt-get install ssh
[00:39] <madMan_Xanadau> wilee-nilee, one ssec
[00:39] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: and if it still doesn't work, we'll take a look at why it's not
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> madMan_Xanadau: what do you mean you are in root?
[00:40] <MrPPS> back in 5 Ubnoobtu
[00:40] <Ubnoobtu> okay,
[00:40] <Ubnoobtu> thank you again
[00:40] <madMan_Xanadau> wilee-nilee, i am the admin, the only user.
[00:40] <madMan_Xanadau> wilee-nilee, this used to work with just "sudo" ... also messes with
[00:41] <madMan_Xanadau> wilee-nilee, this used to work with just "sudo" ... also messes with 'gedit'
[00:41] <madMan_Xanadau> sorry *--
[00:41] <vacho> when updating ubuntu, does it automatically update the package management URL"S?
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> madMan_Xanadau: you seem to have lost it, it would be gksudo as well.
[00:41] <cvtsx> is a 32gb ssd big enough for ubuntu 64bit and a few apps (code blocks)
[00:41] <madMan_Xanadau> wilee-nilee, how do I make myself root again?
[00:42] <heywood> hi all. anyone reasonably well familiar with freeNX?
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> madMan_Xanadau: Not sure exactly to be honest.
[00:42] <k1l> cvtsx: yes. the / takes something from 5GB to 10GB.
[00:43] <cvtsx> thanks k1l ;)
[00:43] <DANtheBEASTman> Dr_Willis: I'm sorry I just don't trust random ubuntu users binaries, I'd rather build from upstream source like I do on Debian, but none of the backports that I've tried are successful. I'm about to give up and go back to Debian
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> madMan_Xanadau: calling yourself root is also confusing contextually, you can have super user access, but the term root is incorrect.
[00:44] <madMan_Xanadau> wilee-nilee, hm probably has to do with some gparted stuff i did recently, think i mounted outside of root on install...
[00:44] <madMan_Xanadau> wilee-nilee, oh
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> madMan_Xanadau: might just be quickest to reinstall correctly.
[00:46] <MrPPS> alright, back Ubnoobtu
[00:46] <madMan_Xanadau> wilee-nilee, i've been doin that a lot lately... with my 13.10 usb...  many problems... any bad things that can some of this? seems to be doing fine so far... been like 7 times in the last 5 days
[00:46] <Ubnoobtu> Welcome back, A reinstall didnt correct it, and I googled some and found this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/201995/bizarre-ssh-problem-it-wont-even-start
[00:47] <Ubnoobtu> I did that and that didnt help, so I am uninstalling it completely
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> madMan_Xanadau: these full installs or loading iso's, and a flash or hd?
[00:47] <MrPPS> LAMBODIE: don't PM with crap I don't need
[00:48] <Ubnoobtu> Welcome back, A reinstall didnt correct it, and I googled some and found this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/201995/bizarre-ssh-problem-it-wont-even-start MrPPS
[00:48] <Ubnoobtu> I did that and that didnt help, so I am uninstalling it completely MrPPs
[00:48] <madMan_Xanadau> wilee-nilee,  uhm, made a usb with a 13.10 ISO using Linux Live... and I format and re-install each time.
[00:48] <madMan_Xanadau> wilee-nilee, the ..."erase all current 13.10 files" option
[00:49] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: alright, let me know how you get on
[00:49] <Ubnoobtu> MrPPS, I see the etc/ssh folder still exsists after uninstall,
[00:49] <Ubnoobtu> how can I clean that out to be fresh
[00:50] <MrPPS> remove it :)
[00:50] <MrPPS> rm -rf /etc/ssh/
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> Ubnoobtu:  you did 'purge' the ssh packages so you removed all teh config files?
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> madMan_Xanadau: I can't really follow your descriptions, it is apparent this is fairly new to you, I'm not sure I can really help beyond this
[00:51] <Ubnoobtu> I put in sudo apt-get remove --purge ssh
[00:51] <madMan_Xanadau> wilee-nilee,  i hear ya, thanks a bunch man.  later, just going to re-install.
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> Ubnoobtu:  and does /etc/ssh/ still exist?
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> with files in  /etc/ssh/?
[00:52] <Ubnoobtu> Yes Dr_Willis
[00:52] <Ubnoobtu> yes
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> move those files to some backup dir..
[00:52] <Ubnoobtu> ok
[00:52] <auzzie> hey gents anyone know where i can get a list of australian professional support partners for ubuntu? looking at buying support
[00:52] <SmallR2002> might be worth running updatedb and then locate ssh
[00:52] <trism> Ubnoobtu: ssh is just a metapackage, it doesn't have any config
[00:52] <auzzie> for the company i work for
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> madMan_Xanadau: good luck we all start somewhere. ;)
[00:52] <SmallR2002> auzzie: this is IRC, there are no gents here :p
[00:52] <auzzie> ha
[00:52] <auzzie> sorry
[00:52] <trism> Ubnoobtu: it doesn'
[00:53] <auzzie> ;)
[00:53] <trism> Ubnoobtu: it depends on openssh-client and openssh-server
[00:53] <SmallR2002> madMan_Xanadau: might be worth imaging a fresh install so you can just revert to that when you break it
[00:53] <MrPPS> auzzie: wipro is global
[00:53] <MrPPS> but not sure that's precisely what you're after
[00:54] <cvtsx> Anyone have a ssd boot drive for ubuntu?
[00:54] <auzzie> mrpps: thanks. its a starting point... any other ideas?
[00:54] <cvtsx> I am wondering if i should get a 32gb ssd and put it in my laptop
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get remove --purge openssh-server          Ubnoobtu
[00:54] <Ubnoobtu> It wont let me move, or delete the files, I'll need to sudo it, what the command for that?
[00:54] <madMan_Xanadau> SmallR2002, yeah i will once i have a good one up and running
[00:54] <[Gentoo]> cvtsx: yeah
[00:54] <fishduck> how do you keep vlc up to date in ubuntu? Download it manually?
[00:54] <MrPPS> auzzie: honestly, I'd contact the sales team directly
[00:54] <MrPPS> see where they put you :)
[00:55] <Ubnoobtu> Dr_Willis, you must be psychic
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> cvtsx:  check the cost/size - a 100gb is  most likely not much more $$ but  will be much bigger
[00:55] <madMan_Xanadau> here's my gparted screen, http://i.imgur.com/v7j37DQ.png i have ubuntu installed on sda5... retardedly i beleive.. wilee-nilee , SmallR2002   it's like within another partition
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> my main ubuntu box is on a 120gb SSD.   32gb would be to tiny
[00:55] <cvtsx> dr_willis whats the speed like?
[00:56] <k1l> cvtsx: a ssd speeds up the desktop alot
[00:56] <cvtsx> gentoo whats the speed like?
[00:56] <[Gentoo]> cvtsx: good
[00:56] <cvtsx> k1l ya thats why i want one
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> cvtsx:   fast
[00:56] <[Gentoo]> another benefit is you dont get the noise
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> thats sort of the main reason for a ssd. ;)
[00:56] <auzzie> MrPPS: thanks. ill look into it
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> no noise - is a little weird at times. ;P
[00:56] <cvtsx> i am currently using a 500gb 5400rpm hdd ;(
[00:56] <cvtsx> lol
[00:56] <[Gentoo]> cvtsx: and itll draw less power than a hdd
[00:56] <cvtsx> i listen to music constantly so
[00:57] <Ubnoobtu> Dr_Willis, MrPPS, Its now gotten rid of most the of the files except a few, ssh_config
[00:57] <Ubnoobtu> etcetc
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> Ubnoobtu:  rename them/remove them. it wont want to remove configs you have customized
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> madMan_Xanadau: having ubuntu in a extended is common not a problem
[00:58] <cvtsx> ya i am thinking of getting a ssd for my desktop (128gb boot with win 7 and visual studio on it) and a 32gb for my laptop (ubuntu and code blocks). But i would also like to be able to swap out the laptop ssd for the old hdd that has win8 ect. on it
[00:58] <Ubnoobtu> Dr_Willis, It wont, so how do I do it
[00:58] <woofer> hi everyone
[00:58] <Ubnoobtu> It wont let me**
[00:58] <SmallR2002> madMan_Xanadau: when you install fresh consider taking a backup of that whole partition and keeping it on a flashdrive somewhere
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> Ubnoobtu:  use sudo rights.. since you MUST use sudo/sudo rights to mess with system files.. rember that.
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> sudo mv file  /some/other/place
[00:58] <Ubnoobtu> awesome auce
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> sudo to mess with system files - a fundamental idea. :)
[00:59] <fishduck> So correct me if I'm wrong. I can create a PPA, and get people to use it, and then rootkit their systems basically?
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> fishduck:  ppa's are personal. and not in any way controlled. thats why they are  not official
[00:59] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all.
[00:59] <Ubnoobtu> Is there a easy way to copy a files location?
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> !tab | Ubnoobtu
[01:00] <Ubnoobtu> and paste it as text for this type of situation
[01:00] <fishduck> Dr_Willis: in other words, yes. What bothers me is that they're kind of integrated into ubuntu
[01:00] <JokesOnYou77> How do I figure out what version of SQL I have installed? Not just MySQL but the actual SQL implementation?
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> select  copy/paste/ middle click
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> fishduck:  they are not integerated.. they are just extra repositories.. that feature has been around in apt for decades.
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> they are in their own /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ files. instead of the old 'toss everything in /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> fishduck:  if you dont want them.. dont use them
[01:01] <woofer> This is the busiest linux IRC ive ever seen :!!
[01:01] <Ubnoobtu>  sudo mv file /etc/ssh/moduli /etc/ssh/ssh_config  /etc/ssh/sshd_config.old  /etc/ssh/ssh_import_id    ????
[01:01] <cvtsx> Damn just found a 60gb ssd for 55 usd. would it be adequate for ubuntu and some applications?
[01:02] <JokesOnYou77> woofer, hello and welcome! :)
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> Ubnoobtu: cd /etc/ssh/
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> sudo mkdir OLD
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> sudo mv * OLD
[01:02] <fishduck> Dr_Willis: just saying that they aren't safe, but seems to be well supported by the community and the OS itself. Whether I want them or not doesn't matter. Oh well, enough of that discussion.
[01:02] <MrPPS> Ubnoobtu: sudo mv /etc/ssh /etc/ssh_backup
[01:02] <woofer> hello and i cant understand most of what everyone says :D
[01:02] <MrPPS> sup woofer
[01:02] <woofer> hi
[01:02] <fishduck> what's the difference between deb http://duck.com and deb-src http://duck.com ?
[01:02] <Ubnoobtu> I don't feel so nubish now
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> fishduck:  nothing is safe. :)  its all degrees of safeness
[01:02] <hispeed67> cvtsx: yea
[01:03] <madMan_Xanadau> SmallR2002 thanks
[01:03] <woofer> I got wattOS a distro based on ubuntu so thought id get back to my roots
[01:03] <fishduck> Dr_Willis: :)
[01:03] <cvtsx> damn a 120gb for 80 usd!!!!!
[01:03] <SmallR2002> I have an inlaw I want to build an auto-restored image for
[01:03] <JokesOnYou77> fishduck, I think that one is a repository of packages and the other is a repo of source files
[01:04] <wsz> hello
[01:04] <SmallR2002> only people I know who can destroy a computer in under a week, and repeat it
[01:04] <JokesOnYou77> How do I figure out what version of SQL I have installed? Not just MySQL but the actual SQL implementation?
[01:04] <Ubnoobtu> MrPPS: Dr_Willis. You both have been a lot of help today and I'm feeling overwhelmed by the lack of knowledge and I feel sorry for the amount of help you've both given me, I just want to say thanks again
[01:04] <n008> JokesOnYou77: sql --version
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> SmallR2002:  you can set up grub2 to be able to boot ISO files :)
[01:04] <SmallR2002> or mount everything but /home ro
[01:04] <MrPPS> no worries Ubnoobtu - we all start somewhere :)
[01:05] <pizo> ok, im a linux noob. how do I accept a EULA in terminal?
[01:05] <SmallR2002> tempting :p
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> Ubnoobtu:  might be a good idea to spend an hr or so learning some bash basics. :) theres tons of guides on that.
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> pizo:  tab key to get to the  <ok> button, then enter
[01:05] <MrPPS> pizo: hit "tab" until you get to the "agree" button
[01:05] <pizo> oh nice, totally not obvious :/
[01:05] <SmallR2002> my T20 is stuck on 10% of select and install software
[01:05] <SmallR2002> ooooh, might be moving!
[01:06] <JokesOnYou77> n008, That doesn't work.
[01:06] <pizo> I'm installing Pipelight, someone told me it would get Netflix running natively in firefox
[01:06] <JokesOnYou77> And I don't think that SQL is a package even remotely related to the relational database
[01:06] <pizo> Do you expect there will be an uptick of Linux users when SteamOS comes out?
[01:07] <SmallR2002> SteamOS?
[01:07] <n008> JokesOnYou77 :)
[01:07] <pizo> I do a lot of webdev in osx and would like to switch my home machine over to Linux entirely.
[01:07] <JokesOnYou77> How do I figure out what version of SQL I have installed? Not just MySQL but the actual SQL implementation?
[01:07] <pizo> SmallR2002, Linux OS built by Gabe Newall & team
[01:07] <woofer> I have a netbook with a 256mb shared ATI graphics chip HD6250, what graphics drivers would be best? can i install them with smxi or is there and easier way?
[01:07] <Voi> cant connect to the internet on 12.04 LTS, will detect my wireless network and ask for WAP password, but then it will just try to connect and fail; strangely it works for eg on the newest linux mint with the exact same connection settings as on my 12.04
[01:08] <n008> JokesOnYou77: you need to figure out the version of Mysql to figure out the SQL implementation
[01:08] <n008> mysql --version
[01:08] <n008> and then google mysql <versio> implementation
[01:09] <SmallR2002> MrPPS: I have worries this may not be bootable, the crypt part of this could be bogging the system down badly
[01:09] <MrPPS> eek, yeah, fair point SmallR2002
[01:09] <MrPPS> might have to bump the RAM first
[01:09] <JokesOnYou77> n008, no, I really don't think you do. And after you had no idea what you were talking about the first time I'm not sure im interested in getting the run around.
[01:10] <SmallR2002> it's been running for at least two hours :/
[01:10] <n008> JokesOnYou77: I was joking the first time
[01:10] <pizo> SmallR2002, http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/
[01:10] <n008> cos of you handle sorry :)
[01:10] <n008> I had to, couldn't resist it
[01:11] <SmallR2002> OK, just going to reinstall using LVM and no crypt
[01:11] <russ5811> Anyone know if Xubuntu mounts discs differently than Ubuntu? More spcecifically in Xubuntu the path is /user/media/discname any idea?
[01:11] <Ubnoobtu> connell@connell-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install ssh Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   thunderbird-globalmenu language-pack-kde-en linux-headers-3.2.0-51   language-pack-kde-en-base kde-l10n-engb firefox-globalmenu   linux-headers-3.2.0-51-generic linux-headers-3.2.0-51-generic-pae Use 'apt-ge
[01:12] <Ubnoobtu> !paste
[01:12] <JokesOnYou77> n008, very well then.  I know my MySQL version and it still doesn't answer my question.
[01:12] <Ubnoobtu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6321528/
[01:12] <n008> JokesOnYou77: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/compatibility.html
[01:13] <n008> I googled for you
[01:13] <n008> thats what In got
[01:13] <Ubnoobtu> this new error I get after renaming the etc/ssh
[01:13] <n008> JokesOnYou77: basically, dbs have varying compliance with SQL standard
[01:13] <SmallR2002> n008: varying? that's an understatement :p
[01:13] <n008> that page says mysql 5.5 is compatible swith SQL:1999
[01:14] <n008> SmallR2002: relatively so :)
[01:14] <JokesOnYou77> n008, right...I'm still looking for the implementation of SQL running under MySQL on my machine
[01:14] <n008> JokesOnYou77: now how do you mean implementation ?
[01:15] <n008> SQL has standards, and dbs try to comply that's as far as I know.
[01:16] <n008> JokesOnYou77: what are you trying to do really ?
[01:19] <SmallR2002> MrPPS: started again with no crypt
[01:19] <SmallR2002> lets see...
[01:21] <SmallR2002> seems to be going a little faster
[01:21] <SmallR2002> shame, now I have to worry about my data
[01:23] <MrPPS> :(
[01:23] <SmallR2002> I do wonder if I could encrypt /home and /tmp
[01:26] <vkr> hello all
[01:26] <xandxtreme> hello
[01:26] <LAMBODIE> sharp beak raises power of flying type attacks for more tips like this just ask me LAMBODIE da pokemaster and join #LAMBODIE_CLAN server for da hangout of da best pokemon XY clan on da net.
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> LAMBODIE:  most of us in here are at an age we have outgrown pokemon.
[01:28] <SmallR2002> and 'da net'
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> SmallR2002:  if you are going to do encryption.. be sure you understand how it works.. so you can reopair it when it breaks. ;)
[01:29] <MrPPS> LAMBODIE: use english
[01:29] <MrPPS> don't spam
[01:29] <MrPPS> check your audience
[01:29] <SmallR2002> Dr_Willis: I make a fair number of encrypted bootable flashdrives, I'm just used to far more powerful platforms
[01:30] <hitsujiTMO> SmallR2002: why do you want to encrypt /tmp? that could potentially break a lot of stuff
[01:31] <SmallR2002> hitsujiTMO: don't have enough RAM to mount it as a ramdisk
[01:31] <SmallR2002> if you want to be really hard core you need to encrypt swap too
[01:33] <fnordy> quit
[01:35] <SmallR2002> hitsujiTMO: given that this will sit on my desk at work I have the choice of never signing in to anything I'd rather not have others get access to or encrypt
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> hideibng stuff eh.... ;P
[01:35] <forgotmynick> Evening
[01:36] <SmallR2002> not really, just paranoid :p
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> but they really are out to get you...
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> lol
[01:36] <SmallR2002> not me, I'm not important enough
[01:36] <alainus> I recently got a sony vaio pro 11, and installing ubuntu isn't trivial yet --lot's of hacking to make things work. I also saw that Linux 3.12 will have the necessary patches. Is there a website I can keep track of to see when the notebook is fully supported ?
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> I still don't understand why you want to encrypt /tmp ... i can understand $HOME ... but /tmp?
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> alainus, hacking?
[01:37] <SmallR2002> hitsujiTMO: lots of stuff sits in /tmp
[01:38] <SmallR2002> sometimes full copies of documents you're using
[01:38] <alainus> wilee-nilee, manually patching the kernel, etc. see https://spicious.com/sony-vaio-pro-11-with-ubuntu.html
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> alainus, There is a certified webpage but does not cover every possible computer nor is it up to date, check hardware in general.
[01:39] <hitsujiTMO> LAMBODIE: please refrain from spamming users
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> alainus, that link comes up as not trusted in FF, not really important for me.
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> LAMBODIE:  spamming users in ubuntu support can lead to USER BANNED STATUS. For more tips like these please join #UBUNTU-OPS
[01:42] <forgotmynick> My uploads with webdav (davfs2) are really slow and I think it's because they're not 'threaded' as the speeds are nominal using commercial software on Windows. Is there anything I can do about this?
[01:43] <SmallR2002> Dr_Willis: I hear they're working on m_death.so for the IRCd here ;)
[01:44] <SmallR2002> to resolve spam issues
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> i tend to just ignore all pm's ;)
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> but then you get beginner users that cant comprehend the idea of channels
[01:45] <ubnoobtu> port 22: No route to host. fml, lol, jk, immakillmyself
[01:45] <ubnoobtu> #*
[01:47] <ezoe> Sometimes, after waked up from suspend, network menu does not shows available connections, Even if I added it later. Is there a way to fix this?
[01:48] <ezoe> interestingly, if that happened, shutdown/reboot from menu doesn't work too. So I have to use shutdown -h.
[01:51] <MrPPS> lol Dr_Willis
[01:51] <MrPPS> I missed your comment above :P
[01:51] <MrPPS> haha
[01:53] <leonid> SmallR2002, you may want to encrypt /var/tmp, too.
[01:53] <Hilikus> every time i log into my computer, i get asked for my key ring password. is this necessary? after i enter that password i get asked my calendar password "Calenda authentication request", then another calendar. i can't find where i configured these calendars, can someone tell me?
[01:54] <SmallR2002> leonid: I am considering just waiting till I have more RAM in this thing
[01:54] <SmallR2002> then encrypt everything
[01:56] <heywood> how do i check if freenx server is running and listening on a given port?
[01:57] <leonid> oh, yeah
[01:57] <b-rad_> how do I install Cinnamon-2.0.6.tar.gz? I've followed instructions in the Ask community but I always get an error with the "make/install/./configure" commands :/
[01:57] <leonid> Hilikus, did you enable log in automatically into your desktop without password?
[01:58] <leonid> I had similar issues when I did it, but since I disabled it, all issues are gone.
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> if you set the keyring password to be empty - it wont ask.   i only see it ask for the keyring password wheni have auto login enabled
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> b-rad_:  what ubuntu reelase are you using
[02:00] <b-rad_> Dr_Willis: I'm currently on 12.04 (can't get Cinnamon to install from Terminal/USC)
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> b-rad_:  newest releases of ubuntu have cinnamon in the repos i recall.
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> Ive also seen/heard where installing it in older releases can cause bad breakage
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> !info cinnamon
[02:01] <b-rad_> Dr_Willis: the repo is there, but I can't get it to install at all D:
[02:01] <k4t434sis> install mint if you want cinnamon, too many issues in ubuntu
[02:01] <k1l> cinnamon is in since 113.04
[02:01] <b-rad_> Nope, not going to LM, k4t434sis
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> easy way to get it would be upgrade to 13.10  b-rad_
[02:02] <b-rad_> No can do. That broke my system last night
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> b-rad_:  13.10 gnome-shell also has its own gnome 2 look mode.
[02:02] <k4t434sis> have fun
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> clean install perhaps.
[02:02] <b-rad_> and every version of linux that JUST came out has something wrong when I install it
[02:03] <b-rad_> So no one can try to walk me through the .tar.gz installation process to see if it'll work out?
[02:04] <k1l> b-rad_: i would suggest to look out for a PPA for 12.04
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> we would have to basically be doing the exact same thing on our machine b-rad_
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> now ifyou want to give the errors the ppa is giveing in a pastebin. or what errors the source is giving.. we might be able to help
[02:04] <b-rad_> I'll give you the last line: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> but step-by-step - most likely is not going to happenm. ;)
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> so figure whats being held. and unhold/them force them to update
[02:05] <b-rad_> how would I go about this?
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' commonly fixes that message
[02:05] <b-rad_> soooooo forcing an upgrade to 13.xx?
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> No....
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> you are upgradeing the HELD PACKAGE
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> dist-upgrade does NOT do a 'release upgrade'
[02:06] <b-rad_> "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[02:06] <b-rad_> >___>
[02:06] <k1l> sudo apt-get install -f
[02:07] <b-rad_> same response :/
[02:07] <b-rad_> 0's across the board
[02:07] <b-rad_> if it helps, it says that Cinnamon has "umet" dependencies...whatever that is
[02:12] <ravigehlot> kdm is purge yet I still get a login manager...what else could be running?
[02:15] <excesseye> q
[02:15] <excesseye> q
[02:15] <excesseye> quit
[02:17] <b-rad_> Soooooooooooooo....no hope to get any version of Cinnamon on 12.04?
[02:19] <k1l> b-rad_: what about that ppa? https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/cinnamon-stable?field.series_filter=precise
[02:20] <b-rad_> k1l: I have this PPA added, but Terminal says I "hold broken packages"
[02:20] <b-rad_> and I have a .tar.gz file of Cinnamon...I just don't know how to install it
[02:21] <mheinke> b-rad_ it should be as simple as compiling it.
[02:21] <mheinke> unpack
[02:21] <mheinke> hit the terminal into the directory
[02:21] <mheinke> ./configure
[02:21] <mheinke> make
[02:21] <mheinke> make install
[02:21] <FloodBot1> mheinke: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:22] <b-rad_> I ran the xvzf (whatever the proper command is) and I have a Cinnamon folder with a lock icon on top.
[02:22] <b-rad_> ./configure yields "no such file/directory"
[02:22] <rostam> On my system I have two distinct disk, is it possible I install the grub on one disk and ubuntu on other disk?
[02:22] <ampw> im getting a pxe error and im trying to install a intel linux driver
[02:23] <ampw> how do i do this in ubuntu
[02:23] <mheinke> so tar -xzf cinnamon.tar.gz ---> cd cinnamon ---> ./configure ----> make ------> make install
[02:23] <mheinke> b-rad you may have to use sudo as well
[02:24] <mheinke> ampw,  whats the error/
[02:24] <ampw> intel pxe error i cant boot a live usb
[02:24] <Hilikus> leonid: yes, i did. sorry for the late reply. i won't disable it. i just want to know how to disable the calendar integration
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> time to read the readme docs for the app.. it might not use the ./configure make method.
[02:24] <mheinke> b-rad_, try this as well....http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-cinnamon-1-8-on-ubuntu-13-04.html
[02:25] <b-rad_> mheinke:
[02:25] <b-rad_> 1
[02:25] <b-rad_> 2
[02:25] <b-rad_> $ sudo make
[02:25] <b-rad_> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[02:25] <FloodBot1> b-rad_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:25] <b-rad_> D:< sorry
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> the ./configure script makes all the needed config files for make to work.
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> Look for a readme.txt or other docs in the dirs as to how to compile it.
[02:26] <b-rad_> Dr_Willis: the ReadMe file doesn't have any instructions on what to do. It just talks about the release...it's useless
[02:27] <mheinke> is there a install.txt?
[02:27] <mheinke> and read the URL i provided above
[02:27] <b-rad_> mheinke: no there isn't
[02:27] <b-rad_> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6321788/
[02:28] <mheinke> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-cinnamon-1-8-on-ubuntu-13-04.html
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> mheinke:  hes on 12.04 :)
[02:29] <b-rad_> mheinke: says I still have broken packages
[02:29] <mheinke> should be at least similar enough to follow
[02:29] <mheinke> b-rad have you installed any bad ppas?
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> fixing the pacakge issue may be the better way to go.
[02:29] <b-rad_> I don't know how to fix anything in Linux -_____-
[02:30] <b-rad_> I'm assuming the PPA is bad...that or the packages in the PPA are bad
[02:30] <mheinke> b-rad_, do you get errors when you run sudo apt-get update
[02:30] <mheinke> if you get an error running that...then the ppa is bad and you need to remove it (software sources)
[02:30] <b-rad_> mheinke: yes
[02:31] <mheinke> open software & updates from the unity launcher
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> b-rad_, You might consider the nest install once working and updated before you tweak it cloning it, so you can just reload that to save time when you break it.
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> next*
[02:31] <mheinke> and remove the third party PPA that you added
[02:31] <mheinke> then run sudo apt-get update again
[02:31] <mheinke> make sure you get no errors
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge | b-rad_
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> or perhaps just use the classic mode of ubuntu and forget about cinnimna
[02:32] <mheinke> id just do it from the UI wilee-nilee
[02:32] <mheinke> he doesnt seem to be CLI savvy yet
[02:33] <b-rad_> ubottu: I manually removed the Cinnamon repos. Gonna re-add
[02:33] <mheinke> b-rad_, before you re-add
[02:33] <b-rad_> Dr_Willis: I HATE HATE H A T E the default DE...runs so slowly
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> mheinke, removing a ppa does not remove what it installed if that is the problem.
[02:33] <mheinke> wilee-nilee, right but he didnt get that far
[02:33] <b-rad_> wilee-nilee: the problem IS installing...
[02:33] <mheinke> errors on apt-get update
[02:33] <leonid> Hilikus, sorry, I don't know.
[02:33] <b-rad_> mheinke: no errors this time without the Cinnamon repos
[02:34] <mheinke> ok so dont readd them
[02:34] <b-rad_> D:<
[02:34] <mheinke> they are obviously broken
[02:34] <n008> is it a good idea to install cinnamon ?
[02:34] <b-rad_> fawk
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> mheinke, I have not seen any info that confirms much of what has been done overall, is all I would say.
[02:34] <mheinke> i would just get used to Unity. or run Mint if you want Cinnamon
[02:34] <b-rad_> wilee-nilee: I can pastbin you every error in my terminal...lol
[02:35] <b-rad_> mheinke: I ran two versions of mint last night and both broke themselves
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> b-rad_, My advice in reinstall and clone it, then breal away.
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> break*
[02:35] <mheinke> b-rad_, really? Mint is typically VERY stable
[02:35] <n008> mheinke: b-rad_ you had problems with Cinnamon ?
[02:35] <Mindy> hi everyone, I am from China.
[02:35] <b-rad_> wilee-nilee: don't have that kind of time :/
[02:35] <cfhowlett> Mindy, nihao
[02:35] <mheinke> hi Mindy!
[02:35] <cfhowlett> I'm IN China!
[02:35] <n008> Mindy welcome to China
[02:36] <mheinke> b-rad_, then just get used to unity?
[02:36] <Mindy> cfhowlett: can we speak chinese?
[02:36] <b-rad_> mheinke: I promise. LM15 was broken on install...certain things did not work with Cinnamon (settings wouldn't save). THEN LMDE worked but then it installed a bunch of updates and Cinnamon freaked out and stopped working
[02:36] <cfhowlett> Mindy, nope.  sorry. but...
[02:36] <cfhowlett> !cn
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> b-rad_, Heh, poor excuse really, you have no idea how long this picking at it will take, but carry on. ;)
[02:36] <cfhowlett> Mindy, english channel is here.  #ubuntu-cn for Chinese.
[02:36] <cfhowlett> !kylin
[02:36] <b-rad_> wilee-nilee: cool. I don't care. I'm just trying to get help. Maybe I'll install KDE >__>
[02:37] <b-rad_> ANYTHING but unity is fine by me
[02:37] <mheinke> b-rad_, KDE is not a bad choice.
[02:37] <mheinke> but then just install kubuntu
[02:37] <Mindy> cfhowlett: I just have a asking and i like talking in english
[02:37] <b-rad_> mheinke: it's the only other route I can take :/
[02:37] <cfhowlett> Mindy, also se   http://www.ubuntukylin.com/#
[02:37] <mheinke> b-rad_, kubuntu or xubuntu might be right up your alley
[02:37] <mheinke> XFCE or KDE
[02:38] <b-rad_> mheinke: I'd be all for downloading the ISO files but I have shoddy internet :/
[02:38] <Pwnna> hey guys. this bug (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70151) affects ubuntu 13.10. Any plan to fix this ASAP? It's pretty bad
[02:38] <mheinke> im a big fan of using flavors that have already been built. why reinvent the wheel
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu and xubuntu are rather old-skool gnome2-sh in look also
[02:39] <Mindy> cfhowlett:  I don't want to ask questions about how to opeart ubuntu, i just get here have a look
[02:39] <mheinke> ive gotten used to unity. ive built a couple of custom scopes for the launcher..im not sure i could live without it at this point
[02:40] <b-rad_> mheinke  Dr_Willis: how does Mate differ from Unity?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> id still rather have more 'focused' searching.. 90% of the time i want to seearch askubuntu.com  - but im always like enableing/disabling the other search 'scopes' to either get Just askubuntu, or switching to normal seearching
[02:40] <mheinke> b-rad Mate is more like the old Gnome 2
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> b-rad_: i dont use mate. I find the idea behind it pointless.
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> Gnome-shell guys have their own official gnome-2ish look now. so i imagine these other gnome2-spinoffs will die out in the next year or so
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> if i want old skool look. - i use Lubuntu or xubuntu
[02:41] <mheinke> i use gnome 2 all day at work..(rhel webservers that i manage) i hated gnome 2 when it was out, i hate it now..and mate just reminds me of that
[02:41] <b-rad_> Dr_Willis: I don't even know what it looks like, lol
[02:42] <b-rad_> Dr_Willis: I would be all for Unity if it didn't lag lack fawk on my system
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> b-rad_:  no idea. its a gnome2 spinoff-  with little supprt/active development i imagine.
[02:42] <b-rad_> like*
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> b-rad_:  i use xubuntu and lubuntu on my low end machines
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> both are actively supported and developed.
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. Chromecast dongle working now in ubuntu.. now if only i could find more  chromecast enabled apps/ :)
[02:43] <b-rad_> Dr_Willis: again I would love to download another ISO but my internet sucks. Christmas will arrive before it finishes downloading...
[02:43] <mheinke> b-rad_, you can download xfce from the terminal
[02:44] <mheinke> sudo apt-get install xfce
[02:44] <b-rad_> awesome. appreciate it :P brb
[02:44] <mheinke> then reboot and choose it
[02:44] <mheinke> its going to take awhile to download
[02:45] <mheinke> downloading desktop environments is a pain
[02:45] <crazybotsmoker> if I'm upgrading the ram from 4GB to 8GB on my 64 bit ubuntu server minimal install, do I need to do anything special?
[02:45] <crazybotsmoker> or will it be regonized automatically
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> crazybotsmoker:  should all be automagicly done
[02:45] <mheinke> crazybotsmoker, assuming that the RAM is all the same speed etc...should be find
[02:45] <mheinke> fine
[02:45] <mheinke> bounce the box and itll be there
[02:45] <crazybotsmoker> its all 1333mhz
[02:45] <mheinke> MAN im so happy i work with virtual servers...
[02:46] <mheinke> i dont have to deal with that anymore
[02:46] <crazybotsmoker> mheinke I'd like to install vsphere
[02:46] <n3tfr33> #ubuntu-br
[02:46] <crazybotsmoker> but i think i need a better machine for it
[02:46] <mheinke> i have 2 head units and 2 SANS that i manage i love it
[02:46] <mheinke> when i need more ram..i just click the button
[02:46] <mheinke> :P
[02:47] <b-rad_> back. going to run the terminal command for xfce...wish me luck
[02:47] <b-rad_> AWESOME...unable to locate...
[02:47] <crazybotsmoker> I'd love that, this paticular machine just runs a personal percona database with a ngix server
[02:47] <mheinke> b-rad_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/223536/how-can-i-install-xfce-along-side-unity
[02:48] <kostkon> b-rad_: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop maybe?
[02:48] <cfhowlett> b-rad_, sudo apt-get install xfce4   for desktop environment only - no programs
[02:49] <b-rad_> mheinke: beat you to it, lol
[02:49] <b-rad_> cfhowlett: had to add the repo first xD thanks
[02:49] <b-rad_> Alright...downloading it now, peeps >___<
[02:50] <shroomduke> how do i restart networking on 13.10
[02:50] <mheinke> shroomduke,  /etc/init.d/networking restart
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[02:51] <b-rad_> O___0
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[02:52] <b-rad_> mheinke: what's it mean "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place"? it stops after that
[02:52] <shroomduke> /etc/init.d/networking restart  didn't seem to work
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[02:53] <shroomduke> I had some big problems after trying to install video driver now I have sundry issues poping up
[02:53] <b-rad_> screw it! time to reboot. ttyl if I have any troubles
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[02:55] <mheinke> shroomduke, sudo service network-manager restart
[02:56] <mheinke> shroomduke,  sorry, i work in RHEL more often then not, still getting used to upstart "service" command instead of /etc/rc.d/init.d....
[02:56] <shroomduke> I thought I sudo'ed it but I don't see it in the buffer, humm...
[02:56] <mheinke> i couldnt find it in the buffer either
[02:56] <mheinke> but its there
[02:56] <mheinke> i just tested it
[02:56] <mheinke> :P
[02:57] <FloodBot1> mheinke: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:57] <shroomduke> oh yea, it came back with "Please use the 'service' command instead"
[02:57] <mheinke> sudo service network-manager restart
[02:58] <mheinke> that should work
[02:58] <shroomduke> I'll note that
[02:59] <SPEEDWAVE> anyone please help me my dota 2 hero and trees are invisible using steam anyone knows how to fix it?
[02:59] <shroomduke> looks like it might, I'll test it, bbl
[02:59] <baron_zemo> how do i install GTK Soruce 3.0 on 13.10??
[03:00] <mheinke> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/gtk+3.0
[03:00] <mheinke> baron_zemo ^^^
[03:00] <cfhowlett> SPEEDWAVE, steam issue, ask steam support
[03:01] <SPEEDWAVE> cfhowlett, ok
[03:02] <baron_zemo> mheinke, thanks, which of the 3 do i download?  or does it not matter?
[03:03] <b-rad_> mheinke: omfg....XFCE...is so old school xD the only issue this DE has is that Terminal won't run
[03:03] <shroomduke> am i here
[03:03] <mheinke> baron_zemo, not sure lol
[03:03] <cfhowlett> b-rad_, perhaps an install of xubuntu is in order
[03:03] <shroomduke>  sudo service network-manager restart worked, thanks!
[03:03] <mheinke> b-rad_, yea thats what you are going to get...either it looks like that...or it looks like unity/Gnome 3...
[03:04] <shroomduke> i knew the answer was simple
[03:04] <mheinke> or you go with E18 and get something that looks like a mac
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> b-rad_:  terminal works fine in xfce.. unless you got some weird issues going on
[03:04] <b-rad_> mheinke: and Terminal doesn't run D:< what the elf?
[03:04] <mheinke> shroomduke, no sweat any time
[03:04] <mheinke> b-rad_, im sure it does...you have something goin on with your system
[03:04] <b-rad_> Dr_Willis: It opens with a blank black screen. no text, and nothing happens when I type
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> b-rad_:  you installed 'xfce' or the 'xubuntu-desktop' package?
[03:05] <b-rad_> Dr_Willis xfce O___0 there a difference?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> b-rad_:  run gnome-terminal perhaps
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> b-rad_:  yes theres a differance.. otehr wise why have 2 pacakges. :)
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> xubuntu-desktop = the FULL set of xfce+ubuntu addons for xfce
[03:06] <b-rad_> WELL it doesn't matter...if I need terminal I guess I'll switch over xD
[03:06] <b-rad_> thanks for all the help, everyone.
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> b-rad_:  any X terminal app can run in xfce
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> or on any desktop
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> terminator. gnome-terminal, xfterm.  rxvt, xterm...
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> any can work on xfce
[03:06] <b-rad_> Dr_Willis: yes, but in this DE terminal runs but I cannot see anything in the box. it's just black
[03:07] <jimmy51_> hello.  i have a webcam that provides video and audio streams like through http://user:password@ipaddress/video.cgi and http://user:password@ipaddress/audio.cgi.  currently if i open two windows of VLC and open those both as network stream locations I can get video and audio.  is there a way to combine them in one instance of VLC?  i'd also like to launch it from the command line rather than clicking through the UI each time
[03:07] <jimmy51_>  (baby monitor)
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> check its theme/settings  and its about menu. to see what terminal is really is
[03:08] <mheinke> b-rad_, install xubuntu-desktop
[03:08] <b-rad_> mheinke: hold on. looking for the info Dr_Willis asked for
[03:09] <mheinke> jimmy51_, there might be for the first question....the second question is a definite yes...but it would take some work
[03:09] <b-rad_> Dr_Willis: it's called Xterm and UXTerm
[03:10] <jimmy51_> mheinke:  i've tried the box that says to check it to synchronously play another file.  i put the audio.cgi path in there but i never get audio.
[03:10] <jimmy51_> (although if i intentionally give it a typo like http://user:password/ipaddress/audioWRONG.cgi it errors and says it can't find it
[03:10] <mheinke> hmm
[03:10] <mheinke> thats odd
[03:11] <b-rad_> okay, now that's all working, I'll ttyl. Thanks again for the help!
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> b-rad_:  theres literally dozens of terminal apps.  xterm and uxterm are rather old skool.  xfce has its own terminal i think called...xfce4-terminal
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> thats its name here. ;)
[03:12] <jimmy51_> mheinke: ah... i'm incorrect.  if i put just audio.cgi (no path) it errors thinking it's a local file it can't find.  if i just mistype the url it fails silently
[03:12] <mheinke> that makes more sense
[03:20] <SPEEDWAVE> how to update my openGL
[03:20] <LuminNaughty> hello. can anyone help me with a problem with Quetzal?
[03:21] <mheinke> LuminNaughty, maybe
[03:21] <mheinke> ask?
[03:21] <LuminNaughty> okay mheinke
[03:21] <cfhowlett> !quetzal
[03:22] <Guest31593> how do you delete past terminal lines
[03:22] <LuminNaughty> i just set up a dual boot with Quetzal and I set up a password to get into the system. but the setup didn't ask me to confirm the password. now when I enter the password it says its incorrect
[03:22] <mheinke> Guest31593, the command clear
[03:22] <mheinke> $clear <enter>
[03:23] <Guest31593> so it will delete is forever right
[03:23] <mheinke> oh you are looking to delete history?
[03:23] <mheinke> not just the lines above?
[03:23] <Guest31593> yeah
[03:23] <mheinke> ok
[03:24] <mheinke> go to your home directory in the terminal
[03:24] <mheinke> cd /home/username
[03:24] <mheinke> then ls -la
[03:24] <mheinke> you should see a file called .bash-history
[03:24] <mheinke> delete that file
[03:25] <mheinke> rm -rf .bash-history
[03:25] <Guest31593> okay thank you
[03:25] <mheinke> or .bash_history (depending)
[03:26] <mheinke> whats curious is...what are you hiding from who? ;-) :-P
[03:27] <somsip> Guest31593: and history -c
[03:27] <Guest31593> my password changes and other things
[03:27] <mheinke> oh yea. i always forget about the -c flag
[03:28] <somsip> mheinke: and <picky> rm .bash_history will do it because it's not a dir and it's owned by the user
[03:28] <mheinke> somsip, thats true, but i just always rm -rf
[03:28] <mheinke> habit
[03:28] <Ben64> dangerous
[03:29] <somsip> mheinke: IKWYM, until once when I killed something I didn't mean to.
[03:29] <mheinke> Ben64, not really, you just have to not be root
[03:29] <Ben64> could still kill your whole home
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> !resetpassword
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> LuminNaughty:  boot to recovery mode. set a new password.   'sudo passwd username'
[03:29] <mheinke> Ben64, true..but i always double check anything im typing into a terminal
[03:30] <mheinke> Ben64, and, anything im nervous about...i write a script for rather then free hand it
[03:31] <Guest31593> another question how would I do the same for metasploit
[03:32] <mheinke> i dont have too much experience with the metasploit framework
[03:32] <Guest31593> neither do I
[03:33] <mheinke> pentesting is something i try not to get into. except at work..which we arnt allowed to use tools
[03:33] <mheinke> its a write your own kind of environment
[03:34] <mheinke> Guest31593, im sure that google, or the metasploit framework book has the answer :)
[03:34] <Guest31593> Okay
[03:35] <msdw> mheinke: i got some books that can help you
[03:36] <mheinke> msdw, ?
[03:36] <msdw> sorry Guest31593:i got some books that can help you
[03:36] <mheinke> :)
[03:37] <Guest31593> I have the metasploit pentesters guide
[03:38] <msdw>  Guest31593:check this out
[03:39] <Guest31593> Okay, how did you do that I am still rather new to IRC
[03:39] <msdw> do what
[03:39] <loa> hello, i have such configuration on server. I have ssh with disabled login for root. How i can connect to sftp for root access?
[03:39] <shroomduke> i didn't see nuthen
[03:39] <loa> is it possible?
[03:39] <Guest31593> the file transfer
[03:39] <loa> i have filezilla now
[03:40] <mheinke> loa, why would you want ftp access for root?
[03:40] <loa> for example edit configuration files using geany :)
[03:41] <shroomduke> you want to log in as root loa?
[03:41] <loa> yes
[03:41] <mheinke> that is..a terrible idea :P
[03:41] <Ben64> why not just edit the files using ssh?
[03:41] <loa> i have user there which can do sudo
[03:41] <loa> because it is bad practice too =/
[03:41] <loa> i changed that config files last week
[03:41] <loa> and change root password.
[03:41] <loa> changed *
[03:42] <Ben64> you shouldn't set a root password
[03:42] <shroomduke> do it with sudo
[03:42] <Ben64> sudo vim /path/to/foo.conf
[03:42] <mheinke> never, ever ever ever run as root for any period of time
[03:42] <shroomduke> what do you want to edit
[03:43] <loa> ok i understand you opinion.
[03:43] <loa> your *
[03:44] <loa> for example last what i done i need to create folder in etc and copy there bunch of files.
[03:44] <loa> it was hard
[03:44] <loa> first i copy files to user home folder
[03:44] <Ben64> its not opinion. enabling root ftp, enabling a root password makes your system less secure
[03:44] <mheinke> create a directory in etc?
[03:44] <mheinke> wow
[03:44] <shroomduke> pratice pratice pratice loa
[03:44] <loa> after that i copy folder from user home folder to etc.
[03:44] <mheinke> the sys admin in me is crying in a corner
[03:45] <shroomduke> sudo md /etc/<name>
[03:45] <Ben64> mkdir
[03:45] <Ben64> this isn't dos :)
[03:45] <shroomduke> doh!
[03:45] <shroomduke> I keep forgetting
[03:45] <loa> yes all stuff which must use root rights, was done using sudo command.
[03:46] <loa> mheinke, it was crappy python script which must rely in /etc
[03:46] <Ben64> except when you set a root password and are apparently logging in as root to do random stuff
[03:46] <loa> and it was not run under root :)
[03:50] <shroomduke> if I were a mental patient, I'd be in a much better place!
[03:51] <ses1984> hey, i was trying to play around with samba4, so i installed samba4-clients ... and it includes smbclient version 3.6.18, not 4. is that correct?
[03:52] <shroomduke> is it possible to go back to 12.xx  from 13.10?
[03:52] <mheinke> shroomduke, its risky..but you might be able to
[03:53] <mheinke> back up your home directory
[03:53] <shroomduke> it was risky upgrading to 13.10, I don't think I have the courage to take the risk going back
[03:53] <mheinke> i have yet to have an issue with 13.10
[03:54] <mheinke> infact its better then 13.04 was for my system
[03:54] <shroomduke> I tried to install the crystal driver and it hosed everything
[03:54] <Ari-Yang> 13.04 is EOL in like 3 months right?
[03:54] <Ari-Yang> !13.04
[03:54] <mheinke> Ari-Yang, yes
[03:54] <shroomduke> but I dont know what i'm doing so it's no suprise
[03:55] <Gabboz> 12.04 server(64 bit).  Hi. I have aliases in my ~/.bash__aliases and they are correct.  However, they don't work unless I type . ~/.bash_aliases first.  Is this a bug?  I only see it in some servers I run.  Anyone know why or how I can fix?  Thanks.
[03:55] <Ari-Yang> mheinke: is it possible to go from 12.10 to 12.04 LTS?
[03:55] <mheinke> thats easier...but still going back is difficult
[03:55] <mheinke> back up your home directory
[03:56] <mheinke> Gabboz, sounds like a bug
[03:56] <shroomduke> i'm learning... the hard way
[03:56] <Ari-Yang> mheinke: how would I go about downgrading from 12.10 to 12.04? just curious
[03:56] <Gabboz> mheinke, I suppose I could add . ~/.bash_aliases to ~/.bashrc   You think that would be a good workaround?
[03:57] <Ben64> .bash_aliases is supposed to already be in .bashrc
[03:57] <Ben64> Ari-Yang: you can't really, aside from reinstalling
[03:57] <Gabboz> Ben64, i wonder.... im gona check to see if it is missing.  FYI Ive never had to edit the .bashrc on that specific server before.
[03:57] <Ari-Yang> Ben64: yeah, if I were to install 12.04, I rather re-install. Would be easier
[03:57] <mheinke> Ari-Yang, back up your home directory, install 12.04, bring back your home
[03:58] <Ben64> or just wait for 14.04 to be ready
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/aurora-player/hffkcdfnepngeimbakeicmdndgbapook
[03:58] <Ben64> will be in beta soonish
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> oops - wrong paste.
[03:58] <Ben64> alpha*
[03:58] <Gabboz> Ben64, weird!  It was #'d out.  Thanks for the clue. :)
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> .bashrc:# ~/.bash_aliases, instead of adding them here directly.
[03:58] <Ben64> Gabboz: np
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> .bashrc:if [ -f ~/.bash_aliases ]; then
[03:58] <mheinke> interesting
[03:58] <Ari-Yang> Ben64: not really interested in using alpha :|
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> .bashrc parses bash_alias's if the fil;e exists
[03:59] <Ari-Yang> !downgrade
[03:59] <Ari-Yang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto
[03:59] <Ari-Yang> that does look risky :|
[03:59] <Ben64> yeah, i'd reinstall if i needed to go back a version
[04:00] <cfhowlett> Ben64, likewise
[04:00] <Ben64> just seems a bit weird to install 12.04 fresh now when 14.04 is coming so soon
[04:01] <mheinke> i lik 13.10
[04:01] <Gabboz> Ben64, im still on 12.04 and no plans to move until then :P
[04:01] <mheinke> like*
[04:01] <cfhowlett> LTS = Less Tears & Screams
[04:01] <Gabboz> hah
[04:01] <mheinke> my Nagios server (the only ubuntu server i have) is still on the LTS..and will be...forever :P
[04:02] <Ben64> seems they're really trying to push LTS, reducing non-lts support to 9 months only
[04:02] <mheinke> but my laptop here..bleeding edge
[04:02] <Gabboz> Ben64, i can understand their reasons.
[04:02] <mheinke> Ben64, if you want to sell to the server markets you have to
[04:02] <cfhowlett> I consider the interim releases to be bleeding edge beta versions ... but that's just me
[04:03] <Gabboz> cfhowlett, thats why i don't take them too seriously.  for VMs, sure.. for production workstations, noper.
[04:04] <ArielX> men, stressed out. Got a Huawei D25HW WiFi but my neighbour got the password and always connect when I/m sleeping which I dont like though cos he doesnt pay for my conection. The USER GUIDE is in japanese. Is there a way to change he WEP/WPA key
[04:05] <Ari-Yang> mheinke: this laptop is running 12.10 bleeding edge. kernel 3.11 with mesa 10 :b
[04:05] <mheinke> i havnt rerolled the kernal yet in ubuntu
[04:05] <cfhowlett> ArielX, look it up online on the huawei site and change the default password.  not an ubuntu issue
[04:05] <mheinke> im worried about all of the ubuntu specific stuff
[04:05] <guanyu_> ArielX: you cannot turn it off while you sleep?
[04:06] <ArielX> did the site iis in japense including E-mobile and Huawei
[04:06] <mheinke> my Arch box, hell yea. latest RC of the kernal
[04:06] <Gabboz> just leave router connected but pull the ethernet to modem..that should keep the thief busy :P
[04:06] <ArielX> I might leave it on cos my phone uses it as well as my wifes'
[04:06] <mheinke> but ubuntu..i know that they do some hacks to it..and i havnt played enough with ubuntu internals to understand what it is
[04:07] <msdw> ArielX: why dont you use mac address filtering
[04:07] <cfhowlett> ArielX, try admin username admin password
[04:07] <ArielX> which link and how to change it
[04:07] <ArielX> where do I log in the admin admin
[04:07] <mheinke> Mac filtering is one of the really good ways to secure home routers
[04:08] <cfhowlett> ArielX, http://192.168.1.1  should get you the adminstrative menu
[04:08] <cfhowlett> mheinke, or turn the damn thing off
[04:08] <ArielX> ha!.... good...
[04:09] <Ari-Yang> mheinke: just use the kernel ppa
[04:09] <Ari-Yang> mheinke: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ that's what I use
[04:10] <ArielX>  This screen is a screen for exclusive use of the setting.
[04:10] <cfhowlett> ArielX, seems the password might be the imei number.  look on your device
[04:10] <ArielX> yes seen the log in page now wrong password
[04:10] <mheinke> Ari-Yang, thanks! i didnt know that existed !
[04:10] <ArielX> tried
[04:10] <ArielX> operator
[04:10] <hellangel> morning :)
[04:10] <ArielX> admin
[04:10] <ArielX> tech
[04:10] <FloodBot1> ArielX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:10] <ArielX> all wrong
[04:10] <hellangel> for questions regarding avconv, can someone recommend me a channel?
[04:10] <cfhowlett> ArielX, again, not an ubuntu issue.   seek huwei help
[04:11] <mr-rich-76> Every time I close my laptop, sound stops working. 13.10 - system76 laptop - any ideas?
[04:11] <hellangel> since sharp avconv is pretty much empty :)
[04:11] <cfhowlett> hellangel, #ubuntustudio
[04:11] <Ari-Yang> mheinke: you're welcome, easy to install a kernel from there. grab the image, headers, and the headers-all; throw it into a folder and run dpkg -i *.deb done
[04:11] <hellangel> cfhowlett, sweet, thank you
[04:11] <Alloyed> hellangel: try #libav or #ffmpeg or something
[04:12] <hellangel> Alloyed, #ffmpeg might actually be also a great idea, thanks for the suggestion
[04:12] <Ari-Yang> mheinke: this is the ppa I use for mesa 10 and updated optimized drivers https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/ mainly for hardware video decode on open source radeon driver via vdpau (UVD)
[04:13] <LostyJai> anyone know any real time replication software besides DRBD?
[04:14] <LostyJai> one is primary, secondary can be read only
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> real time replication of what?
[04:21] <xlogik> Hey all, is there a way to reset my hdmi port via the cmdline?
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> xlogik:  i almost hate to ask why you want to do that. ;)
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> or need to.
[04:23] <xlogik> well I have my laptop hooked up to the HDtv but for some reason the tv is not connecting to the laptop
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> Dr_Willis: i think he lost his hands in the war. P.S. Don't mention the war.
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> xlogik:  most laptops have that fn-SOMEKEY that toggles the monitors/displays used.
[04:23] <xlogik> ah....
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> ive seen some older laptops that dont like it if the external monitor is not plugged in when you power on the laptop. (but thats old ones) :)  non hdmi
[04:24] <mheinke> typically its f(f4)
[04:24] <ArielX> cfhowlett
[04:24] <cfhowlett> ArielX, yes?
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> people have laptops for ages.. and never notice that (normally light blueish) printing on some of the keys. ;)
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> and how it matches up to the fn keys blue printing also. ;)
[04:25] <xlogik> Ty yeah F4 worked but now i cant see my laptop screen
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> hit it again
[04:25] <xlogik> i did.. lol
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> monotor 1, 2, both on, are normally how mine ork
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> work
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> you might need to then use the monitors/settings tool perhaps
[04:26] <msdw> xlogik: theres an app that admins the monitors even hdmi
[04:26] <Feef> Hi
[04:26] <cfhowlett> Feef, greetings
[04:26] <ArielX> http://192.168.2.1/
[04:26] <Feef> I'm lookign for some help, getting a VPN onto ubuntu
[04:26] <cfhowlett> !vpn
[04:26] <ArielX> I log in this with
[04:26] <xlogik> yeah I've switched it a couple times but I guess i have to reset the th itself.... Dr_Willis Thanks :-)
[04:26] <Feef> I loked at that
[04:26] <hitsujiTMO> xlogik: if thats the screen off button, then there's usually a seperate screen on button next to it
[04:26] <Feef> *looked
[04:26] <Feef> Did not help
[04:27] <ArielX> nope.. D25HW Huawei wifi
[04:27] <xtriz> what does this means ? i got bit confused. -> Tell the SSH client to use local port-forwarding to connect port 5,900 on your desktop to port 5,900 on localhost.
[04:27] <cfhowlett> ArielX, sorry.  officially OOVS (out of valid suggestions)
[04:28] <Feef> Anyone mind private chagting me to help out?
[04:28] <roota> if i fixed mbr would it erase or make grub malfunctional? bcoz grub2 didnt find Windows so i googled and were asked to fix mbr..ubuntu 12.04
[04:28] <msdw> Feef: try this
[04:28] <cfhowlett> roota, fix mbr.  reinstall
[04:28] <cfhowlett> roota, fix mbr, reinstall grub
[04:29] <ArielX> I question only.. you said http://192.168.1.1/ but I couldnt log in there. So I tried http://192.168.2.1/ and it logged in using this tuturial..   http://service.sympatico.ca/index.cfm?method=content.view&category_id=674&content_id=12804
[04:29] <Feef> msdw try what?
[04:29] <msdw> OpenVPN
[04:29] <Feef> see
[04:29] <roota> cfhowlett Windows in /dev/sda1 .. ubuntu in /dev/sda3 ...fix mbr and reinstall grub?
[04:29] <msdw> the manual i sent u can help
[04:29] <Feef> The vpn im using,
[04:29] <cfhowlett> ArielX, and that got you to Huawie control?  Great!  now you just need to guess the login/password
[04:29] <k1l> ArielX: setting up the software on a router is not really the focus of this ubuntu support
[04:29] <Feef> Is riseup's vpn
[04:30] <Feef> using openvpn
[04:30] <cfhowlett> roota, most times grub goes to /dev/sda
[04:30] <roota> ok i try
[04:30] <cfhowlett> roota, but it depends on how you installed.  did you use the windows installation method?
[04:30] <ArielX> yes I know.. I tried alot my friend but must toturial I see online is in Jappenese PDF format
[04:30] <Feef> Now i get an error code saying invalid vpn secrets
[04:30] <cfhowlett> ArielX, :)
[04:31] <roota> cfhowlett what window installation method? i installed 12.04 from usb
[04:31] <cfhowlett> roota, OK.  so one hard drive and windows /// 7? 8?
[04:32] <roota> cfhowlett yes one hd only win 7
[04:32] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|roota, so easy a caveman could do it.
[04:32] <Feef> '/chat msdw
[04:32] <Feef> how do i private chat on freenode? lol
[04:32] <k1l> !pm | Feef
[04:33] <Feef> ^ i did
[04:34] <Feef> hes the only guy who helped
[04:35] <ArielX> cfhowlett http://192.168.1.1/ and this  http://192.168.2.1/  are they thesame
[04:36] <cfhowlett> ArielX, search the net for Huwai + model number + default + password
[04:38] <ArielX> aha.. tghanks
[04:39] <xtriz> what does this means ? i got bit confused. -> Tell the SSH client to use local port-forwarding to connect port 5,900 on your desktop to port 5,900 on localhost.
[04:39] <mr-rich-76> Hello. Every time I close my laptop, sound stops working. 13.10 - system76 laptop - any ideas?
[04:39] <ArielX> cfhowlett do I need to connect the wifi on usb to my PC before I login
[04:40] <cfhowlett> ArielX, that SHOULD connect over the net , but plug away and see
[04:40] <xll11> what
[04:41] <xll11> 's the alternative to 'polymorphism' in c? say I want to make an array that will store different shape structs?
[04:41] <Gabboz> xll11, wrong channel for that info. :/
[04:42] <k1l> !alis | xll11
[04:42] <xll11> oh, mny bad, I totally thought I was in C
[04:43] <mheinke> xll11,  even though this is the wrong channel i will say there is no real poly morphism replacement in C...traditional C predates polymorphism
[04:46] <SPEEDWAVE> how to update my mesa to 9.1.5?
[04:46] <hitsujiTMO> xtrix: it means you're using an interim machine as a proxy
[04:49] <hitsujiTMO> xtrix: should be something like this: ssh -L 5900:localhost:5900 <host>
[04:50] <eoss> Just wanted to congratulate you all on your award
[04:51] <BAMbanda> trying to install haskell:http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/haskell-platform
[04:51] <BAMbanda> having trouble...
[04:51] <BAMbanda> sudo apt-get install haskell-platform
[04:51] <BAMbanda> sudo apt-get install haskell
[04:52] <hitsujiTMO> BAMbanda: can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get install haskell-platform
[04:53] <ola2> plz help me
[04:53] <ola2> i want to add reposirtory in apt-list
[04:53] <cfhowlett> !plz
[04:54] <BAMbanda> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6322242/
[04:54] <cfhowlett> !repository
[04:54] <BAMbanda> hitsujiTMO ^^
[04:55] <hitsujiTMO> BAMbanda: as cfhowlett has pointed out, you need to enable the universe repo and run: sudo apt-get update    before you can install it
[04:56] <BAMbanda> thanks
[04:57] <ola2> i have a friend
[04:57] <ola2> i want to give him deb from repository
[04:57] <ola2> and he doesnot have them in apt list
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:58] <ola2> dpkg says openvas-scanner and others not in apt-list
[04:58] <mheinke> sudo add-apt-repository url
[04:58] <ola2> ok so u mean i will add this
[04:58] <ola2> to my friend machine
[04:58] <ola2> and then give him deb
[04:59] <hitsujiTMO> ola2: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openvas-scanner&searchon=names   there's no such package
[04:59] <ola2> i know there is no such standard package
[04:59] <ola2> but what i want to do is
[05:00] <ola2> to give my friend downloade deb
[05:00] <ola2> but his machine will not recognize them as standard
[05:00] <ola2> so will not install them
[05:00] <ola2> how can i add repository offline
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | ola2
[05:01] <cfhowlett> ola2, friends don't give friends PPA
[05:01] <ola2> i will give debs from ppa package i downloaded
[05:01] <ola2> i will give those debs to firend
[05:01] <ola2> just i  want his machine to recognize them as standard and install them
[05:02] <mheinke> cfhowlett, lol
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: is it always a risk to add one?
[05:03] <ola2> i want his machine to dpkg -i *.deb
[05:03] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, yes.  but : you choose your own level of risk since YOU are your own sysadmin.
[05:03] <mheinke> lotus, is it always a risk to download software from a random website?
[05:03] <ola2> but it shows openvas-scanner not found
[05:03] <ola2> in apt-lost
[05:03] <ola2> so how to add it in apt-list
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> mheinke: see above, thats what i was asking cfhowlett
[05:03] <mheinke> i was answering your question with a question
[05:04] <hitsujiTMO> ola2: what version of ubuntu is he using?
[05:04] <mheinke> a PPA is nothing more then a random website that hosts applications
[05:04] <ola2> same we both have 12.04
[05:04] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, I'm thinking that gifting a friends with a  ppa and you can't even figure out your repos is ... suspicious
[05:04] <mheinke> so you take the same risk is if you were to go to joeswebsite.org and download software from it
[05:04] <hitsujiTMO> ola2 does he have internet access?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: yes that sounds very logic
[05:04] <xtriz> when i am doing vnc to my desktop i am only getting basic X server running. no unity is displayed
[05:04] <ola2> there is no risk
[05:04] <cfhowlett> mheinke, exactomundo
[05:04] <ola2> just i want to install deb on friends machine
[05:05] <ola2> but debs are not in apt list
[05:05] <cfhowlett> ola2, maybe your friend should install it on his machine for himself ...
[05:05] <ola2> so it dpkg fails
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: but even if the package itself is 'poisoned' could it override root?
[05:05] <hitsujiTMO> ola2: add the ppa: https://launchpad.net/~openvas/+archive/stable
[05:05] <ola2> thank you
[05:05] <ola2> i m trying it ok
[05:05] <mheinke> just upgraded my php to 5.5.5 and everything is working! woot!
[05:05] <ola2> i will come in minutes after trying
[05:06] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, over my clearance level ... I've never heard of that attack method though
[05:06] <cfhowlett> mheinke, congrats
[05:06] <xtriz> how to start unity from cli ?
[05:06] <xtriz> like for xfce4 we do startxfce4
[05:07] <mheinke> lotuspsychje, cfhowlett  depends, what permissions did you install the package with?
[05:07] <mheinke> if you installed it with sudo then yea..it could definitely privex and go wild
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: what is the worst senario that could happen, when adding an untrusted ppa?
[05:08] <xtriz> lotuspsychje, you machine can get compromise ?
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: im having a few nice packages added with ppa myself
[05:08] <hitsujiTMO> xtrix: startx if you have xinit installed (should bring you to default DE)
[05:08] <mheinke> lotuspsychje, worst case scenario. privilage escalation with remote exicution.
[05:08] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, cascade failure, rift in the temporal membrane, alien invasion?  *or just a fritzed machine*
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> alien ppa makes me think... :p
[05:09] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, you're an elite user ... my suggestion was that if you don't understand the basics of repo management, you might not want to mess with PPA
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> mheinke: you think remote escalation could override root?
[05:10] <xtriz> hitsujiTMO, still i am getting no DE or GUI interface in my vnc connection
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: yes im not argueing mate, just wanna learn
[05:10] <hitsujiTMO> xtriz: how did you install unity?
[05:11] <mheinke> lotuspsychje, definitely i mean...thats what a remote pentester does right. comprimise your machine with an insecure package...bounce around the box, get privilage escalation..then you can do whatever you want
[05:11] <xtriz> hitsujiTMO, i have not installed unity, using ubuntu 13.04
[05:11] <mheinke> they dont override root...they get root
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> mheinke: so the point is, we actually never can trust a malicious ppa...like everyone said
[05:12] <hitsujiTMO> xtriz: hmm, not sure tbh, maybe unity just gets called from login manager
[05:12] <mheinke> lotuspsychje, technically...you should never trust a PPA period
[05:12] <mheinke> but
[05:12] <mheinke> there is such a thing as "acceptable risk"
[05:13] <mheinke> sort of like...if you never go outside you wont get run over...but at some point you need to go to the store
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> mheinke: maybe its wise like the trigger says, to search alternative packages
[05:13] <hitsujiTMO> mheinke: hmmm, maybe we should escalate that to never trust the repos
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: even own official repos?
[05:13] <xtriz> hitsujiTMO, ok np mate :)
[05:14] <mheinke> hitsujiTMO, exactly...you can take it as far as you want...but there is acceptable risk..like me, on this laptop i have every 3rd party PPA installed and dev packages..etc..etc...
[05:14] <mheinke> but at work, i have to compile everything from source, disable ALL PPAs..etc
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: an official repo could hold a vunrable package inside when the users has not updated right?
[05:15]  * mheinke feels like he needs his tin foil hat on
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> mheinke: interesting technique, but how do you keep things updated?
[05:15] <mheinke> lotuspsychje, manually
[05:16] <mheinke> you manually patch. everything is from source
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> mheinke: but you can never know all security holes out there...
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> mheinke: you should inform yourself much
[05:17] <mheinke> we patch the same files that Cannonical patches, we just run ours from source instead of using apt-get upgrade
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> mheinke: i see
[05:17] <mheinke> yep
[05:17] <mheinke> but like i said, this laptop that im on now...i have EVERYTHING enabled
[05:18] <mheinke> auto patch, every PPA, dev and proposed packages/updates
[05:18] <mheinke> because this laptop doesnt really matter
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> mheinke: me too
[05:18] <mheinke> if i did that at work id be fired almost immediately.
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> mheinke: so depending on what network you want secure, its wise to think further
[05:18] <hitsujiTMO> only thing you can do if you're overly scared of anything is grab the source and go thru everyline of code til you're satisfied there's no malicious content.   ... now back to my scanning of the kernel code so i can update the bloody thing...
[05:19] <mheinke> lotuspsychje, exactly
[05:19] <mheinke> its threat landscape and security protocol. how far do you want to take it...and what is the risk if you dont
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> well its an interesting thread tnx to all
[05:19] <mheinke> hitsujiTMO, we have 2 guys who QA / Review mainline patches
[05:19] <SomeDamnBody> hey, I'm trying to set up a Virtual Machine linux and I need to get a linux that I can install on there that everyone knows how to use. It's for a group of students, we want to provide them exploitation trials (trivial heap overflows and stuff) because it's for a computer security class
[05:19] <mheinke> its awful
[05:20] <Guest16530> hi my Ubuntu login screen has a new user called Light Display Manager which i have not created. How it got there?
[05:20] <SomeDamnBody> the problem is, the recent downloads of ubuntu have heap protection built in
[05:20] <SomeDamnBody> is there an old version of ubuntu that I can specifically target, perhaps that will have an old kernel
[05:20] <SomeDamnBody> but that I can nonetheless still install in a VM?
[05:20] <mheinke> SomeDamnBody, interesting question
[05:20] <hitsujiTMO> mheinke: that can't be fun at all ... why would some take up such a job
[05:21] <SomeDamnBody> or can anybody tell me the name of the protections?
[05:21] <mheinke> hitsujiTMO, its pretty dull, but they are also DBAs
[05:21] <mheinke> SomeDamnBody, depends on how relivent you want it
[05:22] <SomeDamnBody> relivent? I only want the easiest set of configs that allow them to see how heap exploitation works with double frees
[05:23] <mheinke> you could try older ubuntu but you will be going back aways...maybe 8.10?
[05:23] <SomeDamnBody> there's some check that the standard library is doing on free that's stopping it. I need to disable the checks on this one Virtual Machine to let the heap exploit work
[05:23] <mheinke> or earlier
[05:23] <SomeDamnBody> mheinke, yeah, see I just don't want to guess about it
[05:24] <SomeDamnBody> I want solid info, because unless I know that version works, then what I think is that I'll just be bouncing around trying everything and not really knowing
[05:25] <mheinke> SomeDamnBody, wish i could help further with that..but your asking for something that simply doesnt work in the modern kernel. and when it was patched...im not sure that your going to find that info other then looking at kernel.org and going through release notes
[05:26] <SomeDamnBody> ah ok
[05:26] <mheinke> you could use Gentoo and compile a kernel yourself that has the vulns unpatched
[05:26] <Gabboz> SomeDamnBody, you could try a netsec board or arstechnica forum.. just a guess
[05:26] <SomeDamnBody> ah ok
[05:26] <saxonjf> Please help. When I try to open this website: http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/shows/travis-rodgers/the-friday-facts-with-brian-beckner-101113-54893/ the streaming is only a black box. Any ideas for help?
[05:27] <mheinke> saxonjf, do you have the java plugin installed?
[05:27] <mheinke> browser plugin..not just java jdk
[05:27] <mheinke> or the adobe flash plugin?
[05:27] <saxonjf> so I need to install the java plugin for my browser?
[05:27] <saxonjf> adobe flash works.
[05:28] <cfhowlett> !java|saxonjf,
[05:28] <mheinke> either java or flash
[05:28] <Gabboz> saxonjf, google "java test" and run sun.s test
[05:28] <specialOffer11> Hi. For some reason, I can't log in when I "reconfigure" to gdm, but I can when I select lightdm.
[05:28] <specialOffer11> If it makes a difference, I'm using XFCE as well.
[05:28] <Guest16530> hi my Ubuntu login screen has a new user called Light Display Manager which i have not created. How it got there?
[05:30] <lone> how to diagnose and fix network problem in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[05:30] <mheinke> lone, that is a LONG discussion in networking...
[05:30] <anudas> network problem?
[05:30] <mheinke> can you narrow down your issue?
[05:31] <Gabboz> lone, care to elaborate
[05:31]  * Gabboz laughs.
[05:31] <AntAnonymous> Morning all
[05:32] <cfhowlett> AntAnonymous, sez you.  afternoon in Beijing.  Greetings
[05:32] <lone> I'm using mobile broadband.I'm connected but FireFox says ;server not found'
[05:32] <xtriz> which vnc server is best supported by ubuntu ?
[05:32] <cfhowlett> !best|xtriz,
[05:32] <lone> for all websites.
[05:32] <xtriz> cfhowlett, :D ok
[05:32] <xtriz> cfhowlett, recommended ?
[05:32] <cfhowlett> xtriz, I'd ask the #ubuntu-server folk
[05:32] <xtriz> which vnc server is recommended  to be used by ubuntu ?
[05:33] <xtriz> cfhowlett, ok
[05:33] <anudas> system monitor
[05:33] <BAMbanda> I have the universe package enabled, and I can't sudo apt-get install haskell-platform
[05:33] <BAMbanda> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/haskell-platform
[05:33] <hitsujiTMO> BAMbanda: did you apt-get update?
[05:34] <BAMbanda> yup
[05:34] <mheinke> BAMbanda, did you apt-get update?
[05:34] <mheinke> LOL
[05:34] <mheinke> nevermind
[05:34] <mheinke> hmmm
[05:34] <BAMbanda> same output: can't locate package
[05:34] <hitsujiTMO> BAMbanda: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:34] <anudas> network tools
[05:36] <Guest21609> Hey
[05:36] <BAMbanda> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6322360/
[05:36] <Guest21609> i have a ubuntu 13.10 router
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  depends on how you are going to be using the vnc server
[05:36] <Guest21609> how can i overclock it
[05:36] <BAMbanda> hitsujiTMO
[05:36] <Gabboz> vnc server in ubuntu server??
[05:36] <AntAnonymous> thanks @cfhowlett
[05:36] <Guest21609> i Already overclocked my dvd drive
[05:36] <Guest21609> i need 100% overclock packet acceleration pls
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> go oveclock your alarm clock.
[05:36] <Guest21609> np
[05:36] <Guest21609> already done
[05:36] <jdrs> heh
[05:37] <Guest21609> 
[05:37] <Guest21609> Ω
[05:38] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, i am trying to connect vnc using ssh.
[05:38] <Guest21609> wow i rly have 2 poop but i dont want 2
[05:39] <intrader> Anyone, earlier I was helped with a problem I have with eclipse's menu. Unfortunately, the changes that were prescribed in the pastebin no longer work as I had to reinstall the latests version of eclipse (as ubuntu does not offer the latest one). My version is in /usr/lib/eclipse.eclipse (executable). When I execute this eclipse comes up but its menu does not work
[05:39] <BAMbanda> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6322360/
[05:40] <intrader> Anyone, earlier I was helped with a problem I have with eclipse's menu. Unfortunately, the changes that were prescribed in the pastebin no longer work as I had to reinstall the latests version of eclipse (as ubuntu does not offer the latest one). My version is in /usr/lib/eclipse.eclipse (executable). When I execute this eclipse comes up but its menu does not work --- sorry that is /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse
[05:40] <hitsujiTMO> BAMbanda: looking into it now
[05:46] <intrader> Anyone, earlier I was helped with a problem I have with eclipse's menu. Unfortunately, the changes that were prescribed in the pastebin no longer work as I had to reinstall the latests version of eclipse (as ubuntu does not offer the latest one). My version is in /usr/lib/eclipse.eclipse (executable). When I execute this eclipse comes up but its menu does not work --- sorry that is /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse. The /usr/share/applicatio
[05:46] <intrader> ns/eclipse.desktop file contains as http://paste.ubuntu.com/6322378/
[05:46] <hitsujiTMO> BAMbanda: ok, i've checked from a few precise installs and all seems ok. can you try changing repos incase its an issue with that repo
[05:46] <mheinke> you may need to talk to eclipse people intrader
[05:47] <Guest21609> why did nobody answer me
[05:47] <Guest21609> i really want overclocked packets
[05:47] <inahd> i am thinking that netflix-desktop will not work on a 64bit install
[05:48] <mheinke> Guest21609, do you know how WAN acceleration works?
[05:48] <intrader> mheinke, sorry it is a known bug in 13.10
[05:48] <BAMbanda> hitsujiTMO, its the only link that the website offers :(, i'll try #haskell and see what they say
[05:48] <KnownSyntax> No one knows how to help you out, that's why Guest. We're all people here, not like Ubuntu pays someone to answer everyone's question in here
[05:48] <Guest21609> ok :[
[05:48] <mheinke> Guest21609, WAN acceleration is complex
[05:48] <Guest21609> man that sounds so cool
[05:48] <Jordan_U> Guest21609: Please stick to legitimate support discussion only.
[05:48] <mheinke> do you have experience with it?
[05:48] <Guest21609> Yes Sir!
[05:49] <Guest21609> no mam
[05:49] <intrader> mheinke, sorry it is a known bug in 13.10 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1221848
[05:49] <BAMbanda> hitsujiTMO, thanks for the help though
[05:49] <mheinke> i wouldnt attempt to write a WAN accelerator...go talk to riverbed or a company who does WAN acceleration (juniper networks)
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> hmm. no menus in eclipse.. perhaps disabel the global menu just for eclipse
[05:50] <mheinke> Guest21609, that was for you ^^^
[05:50] <hispeed764> what should i use (software-wise) to create a raid array?
[05:50] <Guest21609> TY
[05:50] <hispeed764> will gpart do it?
[05:50] <hispeed764> or is that an lvm thing?
[05:50] <hitsujiTMO> BAMbanda: ahh, its raring you're on ... i'll check that too
[05:51] <intrader> Anyone, earlier I was helped with a problem I have with eclipse's menu. Unfortunately, the changes that were prescribed in the pastebin no longer work as I had to reinstall the latests version of eclipse (as ubuntu does not offer the latest one). My version is in /usr/lib/eclipse.eclipse (executable). When I execute this eclipse comes up but its menu does not work --- sorry that is /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse. The /usr/share/applicatio
[05:51] <anudas> for eclipse, perhaps update in eclipse and check
[05:51] <intrader> ns/eclipse.desktop file contains as http://paste.ubuntu.com/6322378/ -- the bug in ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1221848
[05:51] <hitsujiTMO> BAMbanda: its not in raring ... thats your problem
[05:52] <BAMbanda> hitsujiTMO, yeah #haskell says its not out for newer Ubuntus yet
[05:52] <mheinke> is there a karma system in this channel?
[05:52] <hispeed764> anybody familiar with software raid?
[05:52] <hitsujiTMO> BAMbanda: its in saucy
[05:53] <hitsujiTMO> BAMbanda: just not raring
[05:53] <mheinke> hispeed764, i am, but not creating one with ubuntu
[05:53] <mheinke> with/from
[05:53] <BAMbanda> hitsujiTMO, can I get it from saucy?
[05:54] <hispeed764> trying to figure out what software to use to create it..
[05:54] <hitsujiTMO> BAMbanda: you'd have to upgrade the os, or find a ppa
[05:54] <anudas> classic gnome
[05:54] <Guest21609> should i take vitamin c vitamins
[05:54] <Guest21609> 2 grow muh dik hair?
[05:55] <BAMbanda> hitsujiTMO, so if I get 13.04, it should work fine?
[05:55] <mheinke> thank you Jordan_U
[05:55] <hitsujiTMO> BAMbanda: 13.10 :P
[05:55] <BAMbanda> ah, ok
[05:56] <BAMbanda> hitsujiTMO, how do I upgrade from the terminal?
[05:56] <hitsujiTMO> BAMbanda: it seems 13.04's GHC is incompattable with haskell platform
[05:56] <anudas> apt-get
[05:56] <hitsujiTMO> BAMbanda: do-release-upgrade
[05:57] <BAMbanda> hitsujiTMO, thanks a lot man
[06:02] <mheinke> alright time to upgrade mysql...wish me luck!
[06:06] <Skaag> which package contains do-release-upgrade?
[06:06] <Skaag> it seems to be missing in some of my 'precise' openvz images
[06:08] <ola2> best way to set apt-get offline with dependencies????
[06:09] <ola2> which is best way to set apt-get install a package offline
[06:09] <mheinke> ola2, you cant apt-get offline...you need to have the packages with dependancies on your machine
[06:10] <ola2> i want to give a package to client
[06:10] <ola2> package name is openvas
[06:10] <ola2> it is not standard apt package
[06:10] <ola2> so i want to give it with my software
[06:10] <ola2> what to do
[06:11] <intrader> mheinke, please address my problem with 13.10 - it is a reported and accepted ubuntu 13.10 bug with a solution that I am unable to apply
[06:11] <Jordan_U> !offline | ola2
[06:11] <mheinke> i dont use eclipse
[06:11] <mheinke> intrader i use another IDE...i dont use eclipse
[06:11] <mheinke> its too heavy
[06:12] <intrader> mheinke, Ok - hopefully I will get help with this ubuntu (not eclipse) bug
[06:16] <sammy> so why would apt suddenly not be able to hit a mirror? I can use apt-get install <package> to download packages from it, I can browse the mirror using a browser, but doing apt-get update just says the mirror isn't there.
[06:16] <Ben64> sammy: it would help if you pastebinned the relevant information
[06:17] <sammy> Ill wait until it finishes and pastebin the output, sure. its an ipv4 address its trying to reach, the same that it resolves to when I ping it (which it responds to)
[06:17] <anudas> ubuntu software center
[06:18] <sammy> well look at that, even though it lists its IPv4 address in brackets when attempting connection, all the error messages mention an ipv6 address :(
[06:19] <sammy> that's quite misleading
[06:19] <anudas> sammy,  try ubuntu software center
[06:21] <Skaag> ok found it, update-manager-core
[06:23] <sammy> anudas: thanks for the suggestion. I think instead Ill look into filing a bug for apt-get displaying an IPv4 address its appearing to connect to when its really attempting to connect to an IPv6 address.
[06:24] <sammy> anudas: I'm assuming the ipv6 setup is just incorrect through the dsl modem/router, regardless of what apt interface I use.
[06:24] <anudas> sammy, ok, i have no problem >/]
[06:25] <saxonjf> Still having problems. When I try to open this website: http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/shows/travis-rodgers/the-friday-facts-with-brian-beckner-101113-54893/ the streaming is only a black box. I tried installing JRT and then tried Ubuntu Rested Extras, nothing works Any ideas for help?
[06:25] <saxonjf> I tried installing the JRT formats
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> thats weird.. google chrome crashed me back to the login screen..
[06:26] <saxonjf> I erased them,and made sure Ubuntu restricted extras was on. That didn't work.
[06:27] <sammy> though okay this is odd, why would apt-get update not work but apt-get install properly fetches a package...
[06:28] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[06:29] <intrader> Anyone, earlier I was helped with a problem I have with eclipse's menu. Unfortunately, the changes that were prescribed in the pastebin no longer work as I had to reinstall the latests version of eclipse (as ubuntu does not offer the latest one). My version is in /usr/lib/eclipse.eclipse (executable). When I execute this eclipse comes up but its menu does not work --- sorry that is /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse. The /usr/share/applicatio
[06:29] <intrader> ns/eclipse.desktop file contains as http://paste.ubuntu.com/6322378/ -- the bug in ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1221848
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> intrader:  tried just disabling global menus for Eclipse?
[06:31] <tomato16> has anyone here tried a system76 laptop?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> env UBUNTU_MENUPROXY= eclipse                     intrader   as a test.
[06:33] <aeon-ltd> tomato16: ask your real question
[06:34] <intrader> Dr_Willis, I am confused - how ? on the terminal?. There are no menus that work on eclipse
[06:35] <Ben64> intrader: you installed eclipse manually?
[06:36] <intrader> Ben64, yes - I must use kepler
[06:37] <Ben64> well, we can't support such installs in this channel, you should see if there is an eclipse specific support option
[06:38] <intrader> Ben64, yes - I must use kepler
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> env UBUNTU_MENUPROXY= eclipse                     intrader    this command runs eclipse with the global-menu feature disabled JUST for eclipse
[06:39] <saxonjf> I am having problems, I believe with Java.  I have Ubuntu Restricted Extras, but I cannot get the streaming to work on this website: http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/shows/travis-rodgers/the-friday-facts-with-brian-beckner-101113-54893/  Any assistance?
[06:40] <intrader> Dr_Willis, when I issue env UBUNTU_MENUPROXY = eclipse       from the /usr/lib/eclipse directory it tells me env: eclipse: No such file or directory
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> intrader:  give the proper path to the command then. if its not in your default paths
[06:42] <intrader> Dr_Willis, the executable path is /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> so... use that instead of just 'eclipse' ;)  or cd to where its at and use ./eclipse as the command
[06:43] <saxonjf> I am having problems, I believe with Java.  I have Ubuntu Restricted Extras, but I cannot get the streaming to work on this website: http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/shows/travis-rodgers/the-friday-facts-with-brian-beckner-101113-54893/  Any assistance?
[06:44] <xtriz> what framework does askubuntu.com uses ?
[06:44] <intrader> Dr_Willis, it works when I use the fulls path in the env command. Thanks. How do Integrate it so that I don't need to issue the env command?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> edit your .desktop file
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> would be one way
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  Hmm. its used by a lot of other sites. :) i forget the original site.. let me look
[06:46] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, mostly the stack exchange  sites use it.
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> xtriz:  'stackexchange' is the parent  of it. :)
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> but i forget what its called
[06:46] <tomato16> aeon-ltd: was just looking for people's opinions on them, thinking of picking one up
[06:46] <xtriz> Dr_Willis, it is a framework ?
[06:46] <tomato16> aeon-ltd: read some reviews about bad keyboards and what not
[06:47] <leroybdist132> hi
[06:48] <intrader> Dr_Willis, the .desktop file contains http://paste.ubuntu.com/6322378/
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> that the one you edited? looks like you got some extra lines in it.
[06:50] <sammy> well I guess the issue isn't ipv6 afterall :( after using sysctl to disable ipv6, apt fails to connect to the mirror, even though I can ping it and browse it on port 80
[06:52] <sammy> *and* I can use apt-get install to install something from the mirror. 'could not connect to... connection timed out'
[06:52] <crocket> How do I downgrade php 5.5 to 5.4 on ubuntu 13.10?
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> crocket:  if you are lucky and the older version is in the repos. you can pin it.. if not... well.. Not sure.
[06:52] <somsip> !info php5
[06:52] <intrader> Dr_Willis, I guess I don't know how launching eclipse works. I have a launcher that launches the troubled eclipse without executing the env command
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> intrader:  you could just launch it from a shell script and make a launcher that does that.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> intrader:  as far as i know you just need to make a copy of the original eclipse.desktop file and change the exec line
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> that desttop file you pasted looks right on the exec line. but i dont know about the last few lines. those might be for the unity quick lists
[06:54] <ola2> i am not able to understand dpkg -s packagename
[06:54] <ola2> does it tells if package is installed
[06:54] <ola2> what does it tells
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> or you could just disable the global menu competely intrader
[06:55] <intrader> Dr_Willis, but how does it connect to the launcher on the left - and how do I disable the global menus?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/10481/how-do-i-disable-the-global-application-menu
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> did that edited .desktop launcher file work?
[06:55] <mnathani> How do I modify the colours used by bash when doing directory listings? It uses blue for directories which is not very visible
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> mnathani:  'man ls' i think mentions the LSCOLORS variable
[06:56] <ola2> plz help me
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> or you edit the blue color it uses in your terminal setting/profiles
[06:56] <ola2> how to check if package is installed
[06:56] <ola2> and if not install it
[06:56] <ola2> i want to write a script
[06:56] <Jordan_U> ola2: What is your end goal?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> echo $LS_COLORS
[06:57] <ola2> to make a script
[06:57] <ola2> install a package if it is not in system
[06:57] <ola2> but first check
[06:57] <intrader> Dr_Willis, I am not sure. THe env command works. If I make a script with just that command it should start eclipse
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> intrader:  or make a shell script called 'run-my-eclipse' that does that one command. then make a launcher for it.
[06:57] <Jordan_U> ola2: That's not an end goal. Why are you trying to write said script?
[06:58] <ola2> i will give a client debs
[06:58] <ola2> if already instaLLED PACKAGE NOTHING TO BE DONE
[06:58] <ola2> if no package then that package will be installed
[06:58] <intrader> Dr_Willis, when I saw that unity integration of menus, I knew it would be trouble with many apps
[07:00] <Jordan_U> ola2: So you're trying to help a single client install openvas?
[07:00] <ola2> yes now u r right
[07:00] <ola2> i will give openvas with my software
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> intrader:  really ive seen very few issues with it
[07:00] <saxonjf> OK, I was able to install iced-tea properly, and got java to run properly, but for some reason, the streaming on this website still won't work: http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/shows/travis-rodgers/the-friday-facts-with-brian-beckner-100413-54453/  Any ideas?
[07:01] <ola2> so i will give debs to him
[07:01] <furoido> im having problem with setting group permissions
[07:01] <ola2> if he doesnot have openvas
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> intrader:  eclipse written in java seems to cause more troubles for itself then anything else i belive
[07:01] <furoido> how can i make read/write to a certain group in the whole os
[07:01] <mheinke> saxonjf, did you install the browser plugin?
[07:01] <mIKEjONES> how do I run 32bit binaries on a 64bit system now that ia32-libs is no longer available?
[07:02] <mheinke> furoido, why would you ever want to do that?
[07:02] <Ben64> furoido: what exactly are you trying to do
[07:02] <mheinke> other then root
[07:02] <saxonjf> mheinke, Yes, the iced-tea plugin is installed and works properly
[07:02] <Jordan_U> ola2: Why not let your client install the latest version of openvas normally via openvas' repositories?
[07:02] <Ben64> mIKEjONES: multiarch, packagename:i386
[07:02] <mheinke> saxonjf, ok..what about the adobe flash plugin?
[07:02] <ola2> my company doesnot want that
[07:02] <ola2> i have told the same
[07:02] <Jordan_U> ola2: Why not?
[07:02] <ola2> but they have lost thier mind
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> !info zsnes
[07:02] <ola2> what can i do
[07:03] <furoido> mheinke, because im using a VirtualBox and it couldnt write in the OS
[07:03] <Jordan_U> ola2: OK, good luck :)
[07:03] <ola2> i told them lets give them script to download openvas from internet
[07:03] <ola2> they said no
[07:03] <mheinke> furoido, ok..well add the users to the root group
[07:03] <saxonjf> mheinke, yes, flash plugin is installed, and flash runs properly also
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Hmm . zsnes works here on my 64bit system. - i wonder if it pulled in whatever packages it needed to run 32bit stuff on 64bit
[07:03] <Ben64> furoido: what ~exactly~ are you trying to accomplish
[07:04] <mheinke> saxonjf, hmm then i dont know
[07:04] <saxonjf> mheinke, Can you pull up the page, and look at the script?
[07:04] <Jordan_U> ola2: Ideally what you would want to do would be to create your own repository containing your software, properly packaged, as well as a mirror of any package your software depends on that aren't in Ubuntu's standard repositories.
[07:04] <mIKEjONES> Ben64: I downloaded a binary from the internet, so I don't exactly know what libraries it has depencies for
[07:04] <codesmithx> ubuntu 13.10, Touchpad keeps freezing, someone save me pls
[07:05] <mIKEjONES> is there a way to just apt-get install 32bit libraries?
[07:05] <furoido> oh yeah mheinke. right.
[07:05] <mheinke> saxonjf, im not getting the video either, i have java and flash
[07:05] <ola2> Jordan_U , i am making now aptoncd
[07:05] <ola2> will it be good
[07:05] <Ben64> mIKEjONES: you'll need to know which you need, what binaries are you downloading? sounds sketchy
[07:05] <saxonjf> it's audio, but it's just a long black box...
[07:05] <mheinke> i didnt even get a black box
[07:05] <mheinke> it was white
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> saxonjf:  that site fails to play anything here.
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> long black box. ;)
[07:06] <saxonjf> Dr_Willis maybe it's an issue of the website.
[07:06] <furoido> Ben64, i was running a VirtualOS.
[07:06] <Jordan_U> ola2: That and having your company's software packaged properly, with dependencies specified for those packages it needs, is the next best thing to a proper repository.
[07:06] <mIKEjONES> Ben64: http://www.altera.com/ they're reputable
[07:06] <furoido> and it cant write in the system
[07:06] <intrader> Dr_Willis, I am surprised - obviously the eclipse folks are surprised also . I am having a problem make runMyEclipse executable from nautilus file viewer. I change permissions to executable and it still wants to chose gedit as application to run
[07:07] <saxonjf> It's just my one of my favs, and I assumed that the 13.10 issues were the cause of the problem
[07:07] <ola2> Jordan_U : ya but how to make it plz give an idea
[07:07] <ola2> Jordan_U : I will give them debs all debs are working except openvas
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> intrader:  launch it from a terminal, or make a whatever.desktop to launch  the script. dont double click on the script
[07:07] <sammy> would someone- could someone try changing their mirror to mirror.uoregon.edu and trying an apt-get update for me, please? I'm wondering if something changed with the mirror and that's why I'm having these strange errors.
[07:07] <Ben64> furoido: thats still not really giving us enough information to solve whatever problem you're having
[07:08] <Ben64> sammy: why don't you change yours to a standard ubuntu one?
[07:08] <ola2> Jordan_U : any idea
[07:08] <ola2> i dont want client to use internet
[07:09] <sammy> Ben64: by standard you mean the roundrobin us.archive.ubuntu.com? I tried that and the update worked, but that still doesn't explain why the uoregon mirror stopped working for me. and if its broken for other people, I'd like to report it to them.
[07:09] <Johnson88232> Hi, will it be better to install ubuntu than xfce or start freshw ith xubuntu
[07:09] <mheinke> Johnson88232, xubuntu
[07:09] <mheinke> they have it stable and tested
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> Johnson88232:  i always put the xubuntu desktop on my ubuntu installs. :)
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> Johnson88232:  but it depends on your end goal. I test out all the desktops ;P
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> wife perfers lubuntu or xubuntu.
[07:09] <cfhowlett> Johnson88232, ubuntu + xfce is not quite xubuntu.  different packages.  depends what you want.
[07:10] <Ben64> sammy: well if ubuntu's worked and that other one doesn't, that sounds like good evidence that the mirror is the problem
[07:10] <Johnson88232> so unity sucks?
[07:10] <Johnson88232> :P
[07:10] <mheinke> i love unity!
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> i have no issues with unity.
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> wife just needs a button for her browser.
[07:11] <mheinke> Dr_Willis, cant lock firefox to the launcher?
[07:11] <mheinke> :P
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> cant seem to get that chromeos package working  in 13.10 - thats all she really needs
[07:12] <intrader> Dr_Willis, when I execute ./runEclipse from the terminal it works. If I attach the launcher that shows in the as a left icon it does not work
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> intrader:  use the full proper path to the script perhaps?  (common issue)  or have it run in a terminal.
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> intrader:  you miht need the script to use #!/bin/bash and cd to where the eclipse binary is also
[07:19] <intrader> Dr_Willis, nautilus wants now to open emacs with it
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> open what?  you still doubleclicking on the start-eclipse.sh ?
[07:21] <Feef> So umm.
[07:21] <Feef> question to you guys
[07:22] <Feef> How do i get autovpn.py to work
[07:22] <Feef> Iim having major issues with vpn's on the latest ubuntu build
[07:22] <Feef> Anyone willing to help me out a bit?
[07:23] <Feef> Anyone?
[07:23] <Feef> *Criket Criket Criket*
[07:24] <intrader> Dr_Willis, the runEclips file:: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6322662/
[07:24] <Feef> intrader
[07:25] <Feef> Do you know anything about settign vpn on the latest vpn build? I'm having nothing but trouble...
[07:25] <Feef> Latest Ubuntu Build i mean
[07:25] <Feef> again *Criket Criket Criket*
[07:25] <intrader> Feef, no I don't know about that
[07:26] <Feef> gah
[07:26] <Feef> this is SOOO anying.
[07:26] <Feef> *Annoying
[07:26] <dispassion> hi all
[07:26] <cfhowlett> !patience|Feef,
[07:26] <cfhowlett> dispassion, greetings
[07:26] <Feef> Sorry
[07:26] <Feef> just like
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> latest ubuntu build = is vague also. ;)    what ubuntu release are you using exactly
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> I dont use vpns either. :0 so cant really help
[07:27] <Feef> umm 1 sec
[07:28] <intrader> Dr_Willis, wow - that was an experience with 'feef'
[07:28] <Feef> ?
[07:29] <Feef> but ya, very annoyed, took me like 2 days to get ubuntu passed a bunch of error codes
[07:29] <Feef> finally got it working today and now vpn issues lol
[07:34] <intrader> Dr_Willis, thanks for your help - for now I will use the terminal to execute runEclipse. I have no idea how to the the left  eclipse icon (once locked to launcher) to execute runEclipse
[07:35] <intrader> Dr_Willis, sorry for nonsense in phrase. I amd going to bed. Thanks again!
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> intrader:  if its running a differnt .desktop file then what you are editing that would explain it.. make your own .desktop thats using its own icon and so rofth so you can tell them apart i guess..  but i  alwyas have a terminal open. :) so i dont  worry about laucchers to much
[07:36] <ola2> i want to give an offline installation of openvas package
[07:37] <ola2> it is from ppa repository
[07:37] <ola2> plz help me any idea except aptoncd
[07:37] <intrader> Dr_Willis, my preference also as I have more than one eclipse
[07:37] <pixiebit> Hey guys how to automatically disown a process in bash?
[07:37] <pixiebit> I literally googled that and nothing.
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> pixiebit:  you mean like   'nohup  command &'
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> you may need to pipe the stderr/out also to null.
[07:38] <pixiebit> Okay wait so I can't kill nohups?
[07:38] <ikonia> ola2: you've been told how to do this many times, you where asking about java the other day
[07:38] <ola2> ikonia java i have installed
[07:38] <ola2> with same way
[07:38] <ola2> but openvas is creating problem
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> pixiebit:  i imagine you can kill them somehow.
[07:39] <ikonia> ola2: yes, and the process is the same for any other package
[07:39] <ikonia> ola2: follow the same process
[07:39] <ola2> i did as told and problem solved for java
[07:39] <ola2> no its not working thats why m asking
[07:39] <pixiebit> oh god how do i pipe to null
[07:39] <pixiebit> fuk
[07:39] <ola2> not working for openvas
[07:39] <Dr_Willis>  > /dev/null
[07:39] <ikonia> pixiebit: control the language please.
[07:39] <ikonia> ola2: just repeating that doesn't change it
[07:39] <ikonia> ola2: you use the same process as you did for java.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> but  i forget the stderr/out thing.. &2> or somthing like that
[07:40] <ola2> why would i disturb u im telling u bcoz i have problem
[07:40] <pixiebit> pkill works on nohups
[07:40] <pixiebit> nice
[07:40] <Somefellow> How would I set my hostname to blank?
[07:40] <ola2> error : unable to process package openvas ...
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Somefellow:  why would you think you need to?
[07:40] <Somefellow> it's currently "server.domain.tk"
[07:40] <Somefellow> I just want "domain.tk"
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> !hostname
[07:41] <pixiebit> omg Dr
[07:41] <pixiebit> thanks
[07:41] <ikonia> ola2: look, you've been told how to do this MANY times before, you've also been told if you have a problem the information you need to provide for others to help you - please think about it
[07:41] <Somefellow> Hm, maybe I'll just set the hostname to www
[07:42] <ola2> ok tell me i will do same as u say
[07:42] <ola2> and u can try it too for openvas
[07:42] <ikonia> tell you what ?
[07:42] <ola2> for java , python and nmap its working
[07:42] <ola2> tell me how to set offline download for openvas
[07:42] <Somefellow> While I'm here, can I just give a shoutout to Dr_Willis, you've always been helpful to me
[07:42] <ikonia> ola2: I suspect the problem you are having will be down to the dependencies being needed from the PPA you are using, rather than the core repo
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> moo Somefellow  :)
[07:42] <ola2> ya
[07:43] <ola2> how to solve that
[07:43] <ikonia> ola2: download the dependencies from the PPA
[07:43] <ola2> ppa is problem
[07:43] <Somefellow> oink!
[07:43] <ola2> i did
[07:43] <ikonia> ola2: or contact the maintainer of the PPA and ask him why his packages don't work
[07:43] <ola2> but when i installed on other machine it didnot work
[07:43] <Somefellow> Now, back to breaking things
[07:44] <ola2> ikonia: i did this
[07:44] <sgo11> hi, when I do apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras, I want to ignore "flashplugin-installer" and "ttf-mscorefonts-installer". they are useless to me. how can I do that? thanks.
[07:44] <ola2> apt-get build-dep openvas packages
[07:44] <ikonia> ola2: no no no no no
[07:44] <ola2> and then downloaded all debs
[07:44] <ola2> ok
[07:45] <ola2> tell me what to do now
[07:45] <ikonia> ola2: contact the PPA maintainer and ask him for support
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> sgo11:  you install all the packages except those  individually - as far as i know.
[07:45] <ola2> ok
[07:46] <ola2> ikonia: plz could u do that
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> the point of ubuntu-restricted-extas - is its just a meta package. it just  has dependencies.. guess you could make your own  not-quiet-all-ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[07:46] <sgo11> Dr_Willis, ok. that works. but ugly. :) I am wondering if there is a flag like --ignore in apt-get.
[07:46] <ola2> means like doing what i want to
[07:46] <ola2> i m not able to understand problem
[07:46] <ikonia> ola2: no, I'm not contacting the PPA maintainer, you need to contact him
[07:46] <ola2> no u dont need to
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> sgo11:  ive never seen one.  never really looked however. ;)
[07:46] <ola2> i m asking to just try openvas install offline
[07:46] <ola2> plz if u could experiment
[07:46] <sgo11> Dr_Willis, thanks. :)
[07:46] <ikonia> I have no need to
[07:46] <ikonia> I'm not ruining my system with untrusted PPA's
[07:47] <cfhowlett> ^^^^ this!
[07:47] <bazhang> ola2, PPA are not supported here, contact the PPA maker yourself and work out the issues. Stop asking for support here.
[07:47] <ola2> dont trust ppa trust me
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> ola2:  you could explain whats 'not working'  to the channel and we might be able to figure out the core of the problem
[07:47] <ola2> unable to process openvas-scanner
[07:47] <ola2> no package found
[07:47] <ikonia> ola2: you have no technical awareness of what you are doing, I certainly will not trust you vouching for this PPA's status
[07:47] <cfhowlett> ola2, "trust me" are probably the 2 most expensive words in the english language.  we don't know you.
[07:47] <ola2> im trying to set offline installation of openvas for client
[07:47] <ikonia> ola2: right - the package is MISSING, so contact the person who puts the package there, the PPA maintainer
[07:48] <wessly> i have a problem - rhythmbox won't start! i tryed thousand methods, --purge, autoremove & etc. but still won't start.
[07:48] <wessly> i'm listening with audacious2 but i want to use rhythmbox
[07:48] <cfhowlett> wessly, purge doesn't start rhythmbox ...
[07:48] <cfhowlett> it removes RB
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> wessly:  run it from  a terminal.. and look for error messages? cleaned out your users settings?
[07:49] <cfhowlett> wessly, sudo apt-get install rhythmbox
[07:49] <wessly> yes, i tryed to remove it with config and etc, all gnome reinstalled, dpkg-reconfigure but...
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> wessly:  purgeing rythembox and reinstalling it will NOT touch/remove any problem settings in the users home.. test with a newly made user also.
[07:49] <wessly> uno momento, i will paste
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> wessly:  so - test with a newly made user. see if that user works or not. that would a good step #1
[07:50] <wessly> segfault error
[07:50] <SlickRIck> bit.ly/1abgczC
[07:50] <Feef> So like
[07:51] <Feef> So like
[07:51] <ikonia> Feef: do you have a question ?
[07:52] <Feef> well
[07:52] <Feef> I'm attempting to put novpn onto my ubuntu
[07:52] <DamienCassou> hi
[07:52] <ikonia> Feef: you're in #ubuntu, this channel is for ubuntu support questions,, you're best approach is to put a summary onto one line so people can help
[07:52] <Feef> ok then
[07:52] <cfhowlett> DamienCassou, greetings
[07:53] <sam113101> is there a way to silence a job when it's running in the background?
[07:53] <ikonia> sam113101: not unless you redirectted it's output when you started it
[07:53] <DamienCassou> duplicity crashes with an exit code of '30' and a stack trace: http://pastebin.com/sKyVmmJ0. What can I do please?
[07:54] <sam113101> ikonia: aaaww, really?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  'exit' the terminal? ;)
[07:55] <sam113101> I guess I could redirect it to some file in /tmp and then tail -f to it later
[07:55] <mIKEjONES> this multiarch thing is pretty broken
[07:56] <mIKEjONES> is there a way to install ia32-libs on 13.10?
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/361084/13-10-how-to-install-ia32-libs
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package
[07:58] <mIKEjONES> yea ":i386" is nice... but I need something that works
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> seems it does work for packages in teh rpos.
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> repos.
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> if its not you can use the 'ldd' command to see what the binary needs from what i just read
[07:58] <mIKEjONES> it breaks on a few packages for me
[08:00] <mIKEjONES> http://pastebin.com/Z3kss2kr
[08:00] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: you need to be careful where packages are being pulled down from, not all sources will support it, eg: PPA's, 3rd party repos etc
[08:00] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: this is straight from saucy
[08:01] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: is there a 32bit package of it in the repo ?
[08:01] <Ben64> but you have other stuff that is conflicting
[08:01] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+build/4276838
[08:01] <ikonia> does in conflict with a 64bit version you have
[08:01] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: no, http://pastebin.com/Z3kss2kr
[08:01] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: daily build....not stable saucy repo
[08:01] <Ben64> and wait, why overlay scrollbar 386? thats already a x64 package...
[08:02] <mIKEjONES> Ben64: well my 32bit binary application can't find it :/
[08:03] <mIKEjONES> so I think the issue is that there is no "overlay-scrollbar:i386"
[08:03] <mIKEjONES>  overlay-scrollbar-gtk3:i386 : Depends: overlay-scrollbar:i386 but it is not installable
[08:03] <Ben64> because you already have overlay-scrollbar
[08:03] <mIKEjONES> so why is overlay-scrollbar-gtk3:i386 not installing?
[08:03] <Ben64> because you have overlay-scrollbar....
[08:03] <mIKEjONES> no
[08:03] <mIKEjONES> I don't
[08:04] <Ben64> well then, to be more specific, because you're running 64 bit
[08:04] <mIKEjONES> well I want to have the 32bit version of overlay-scrollbar
[08:04] <anuvrat> iptables doubt ... does this output indicate that everything is allowed right now? https://dpaste.de/jJg8
[08:04] <Ben64> why
[08:04] <mIKEjONES> hence the :i386
[08:04] <Ben64> install 32 bit ubuntu if you want that
[08:04] <mIKEjONES> I don't want to reinstall my entire OS just to get 32bit applications to work
[08:04] <Ben64> theres absolutely no reason to get that package in 32bit on a 64bit system
[08:05] <mIKEjONES> Ben64: yes there is
[08:05] <wonna> can osx 10.8 be emulated reasonably well on a phenom x6
[08:05] <Ben64> you must be misunderstanding what it does
[08:05] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: just to clarify, do you have any 3rd party repos ?
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> wonna:  not really a ubuntu support related question. ;)
[08:05] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: I do not believe so, do you mean in sources.list?
[08:05] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: in any repo config
[08:05] <wonna> Dr_Willis, on ubuntu, oops
[08:05] <mIKEjONES> Ben64: misunderstanding what?
[08:05] <Ben64> overlay-scrollbar is JUST a scroll bar, that thing on the right if the window's contents doesn't fit in the window size ----->
[08:06] <wonna> where would a better place to ask that question be
[08:06] <Ben64> there is absolutely no reason for having it in 32bit on a 64bit system
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> wonna:  the virtualbox or vmware chananel perhaps? i dont know how you are planning on running it. 'on ubuntu'
[08:06] <histo> wonna: probably the vbox or vmware people if youa re going to use their products
[08:06] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6322780/
[08:07] <fishcooker> how to solve this
[08:07] <cfhowlett> wonna, there are rumours of running it on VBox, but I've never actually seen it
[08:07] <mIKEjONES> Ben64: if you go to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+build/4276838
[08:07] <wonna> alright, thank y'all
[08:07] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: that is DAILY build
[08:07] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: stop referencing that - you are using the stable build
[08:08] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: you are using the core/base ubuntu repos
[08:08] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: overlay-scrollbar-gtk3
[08:08] <ikonia> oops
[08:08] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/overlay-scrollbar-gtk3
[08:08] <mIKEjONES> http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/i386/overlay-scrollbar-gtk3/filelist
[08:08] <mIKEjONES> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gtk-3.0/modules/liboverlay-scrollbar.so
[08:08] <Voi> how is that opaque thing called that shows up quickly on the middle of the screen for example when i change the volume using my multimedia keys?
[08:08] <mIKEjONES> see there it is
[08:08] <Ben64> mIKEjONES: what does that prove
[08:08] <mIKEjONES> Ben64: are you trolling me?
[08:09] <Ben64> no! i'm trying to figure out why you think you need that
[08:09] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: I think you need to look at what problems/conflict it may cause
[08:09] <mIKEjONES> Ben64: 04:06 < mIKEjONES> Ben64: well my 32bit binary application can't find it :/
[08:09] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: eg: do you have the 64bit version already installed ?
[08:09] <Ben64> can you pastebin anything that relates to anything that you're saying?
[08:09] <Ben64> nothing needs overlay-scrollbar
[08:10] <mIKEjONES> Ben64: go install quartus v13.0sp1 from altera.com
[08:10] <mIKEjONES> you will see that eclipse needs it
[08:10] <Ben64> no thanks
[08:10] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: lets focus here, do you already have the 64bit version installed ?
[08:10] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: I believe so
[08:11] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: ok, so that will probably be the conflict then as it will want to put binaries in the same place as the already existing 64bit
[08:11] <mIKEjONES> ok 1 sec let me remove them again
[08:11] <Ben64> ikonia: it will likely conflict with everything else being 64 bit
[08:11] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: keep in mind the same will be true of it's dependencies, (apart from libraries that live in the i386 path)
[08:12] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/bUfwt2BH
[08:12] <excognac> anybody can help me with graphics issues? i'm using kubuntu 12.04, i have no desktop effect whatsoever. my graphics card. http://pastebin.kde.org/poxlmbg41
[08:12] <excognac> I have no desktop effects at all
[08:12] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: that's gtk2
[08:13] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/ePe6gHxQ
[08:13] <mIKEjONES> same thing happens for gtk3
[08:13] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: yes, for the reasons I stated above
[08:14] <mIKEjONES> so... what do I do?
[08:15] <Voi> how is that opaque thing called that shows up quickly on the middle of the screen for example when i change the volume using my multimedia keys?
[08:15] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: you're basically requesting an impossible solution.
[08:16] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: I don't understand...
[08:16] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: if I apt-get download the package, and dpkg --force-all -i it
[08:16] <mIKEjONES> everything works
[08:16] <ola2>   mike
[08:16] <ola2> i have ur solution
[08:16] <ola2> try this
[08:16] <mIKEjONES> excepts apt-get will complain and tell me to run apt-get -f install
[08:16] <mIKEjONES> except*
[08:16] <ola2> apt-get build-dep nameofpackage
[08:16] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: you have a product+dependencies that wants to install to locations X Y and Z, you want to install the same product to X Y and V, "V" is ok as it's it's own space, X and Y conflict with what's there
[08:16] <ola2> it will download all dependencies
[08:17] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: do not do what ola2 says
[08:17] <ola2> ikonia i have that experience
[08:17] <ikonia> ola2: how will that fix a conflict between 32bit and 64bit pakages ?
[08:17] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: but I don't have the 64bit version installed, and the 32bit version does not conflict with any existing files
[08:18] <Ben64> i'm still wondering how overlay-scrollbar affects anything. it is literally just a scrollbar, not necessary in any way. it can be removed to restore the traditional scrollbar
[08:18] <ola2> did u try pae
[08:18] <ola2> try pae
[08:18] <ikonia> ola2: stop it
[08:18] <ikonia> you are just saying random things
[08:18] <ola2> im helping him
[08:18] <mIKEjONES> Ben64: there's a shared object file that ships with the -gtk package
[08:18] <ola2> no i have tried pae
[08:18] <ikonia> Ben64: it looks like it's the dependencies, rather than the package that's hitting the issue
[08:18] <ola2> many pae have worked for 32 bit as well as 64 bit apps
[08:19] <ikonia> ola2: stop it now, PAE is not for "32/64bit apps" it's a kernal to allow large memory space addressing
[08:19] <ola2> ya that will help him
[08:19] <ikonia> no, it won't
[08:21] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: long shot suggestion, depending how confident you are, you could build the 32bit package to install into /opt for example and see if that resolve the conflict, then work through each dependency that is not a library and do the same if it doesn't
[08:21] <ikonia>  http://pastebin.com/bUfwt2BH
[08:21] <ikonia> oops, ignore pastebin
[08:21] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: oy ok :(
[08:21] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: I appreciate it's not the one command solution you wanted, but just trying to give a realistic response
[08:24] <Debolaz> Is it possible to get the networked lenses in Unity on another button than super? I really do like the feature, I just don't want it to be on the same button as I use to search my local machine for privacy reasons.
[08:26] <derfetrr> de
[08:26] <derfetrr> hi there
[08:26] <derfetrr> i have an environment problem
[08:26] <loa> hello, some times my ubuntu 13.10 totally hangs (
[08:26] <atomx> After I upgraded to 13.10, I have a great problem. I cannot close any more the laptop lid, because it shuts down the network, and the internet is broken in the house (because I use the laptop to create a wireless )
[08:26] <loa> someone have such thing too?
[08:26] <atomx> How can I make it work ?
[08:27] <atomx> loa: reinstall it from scratch if you cannot debug.
[08:27] <loa> atomx, maybe disable power saving mod, and event when laptop is closed.
[08:27] <loa> atomx, how i can debug it?
[08:28] <atomx> loa: it is difficult to say. Debugging a system is tricky. It takes long time, much longer than to reinstall from scratch
[08:28] <atomx> If you are not motivated, reinstall it.
[08:29] <atomx> loa: for example, look at dmesg, and see if something suggestive is written there
[08:29] <cfhowlett> !details|derfetrr,
[08:29] <atomx> ... at the output of dmesg
[08:39] <jony_easy> please  help me someone to solve this issue : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6322904/
[08:40] <ikonia> jony_easy: install the package build-essential
[08:42] <jony_easy> ikonia, ty, it worked
[08:43] <atomx> Can somebody tell me how to *disable* the callback that shuts down the wireless when I close the lid, please ?
[08:58] <Voi> whats the kernel of 12.04.3 and whats the kernel of 12.04.2?
[08:58] <Voi> whats the kernel of 12.04.3 and whats the kernel of 12.04.2?
[08:59] <Voi> nvm found it
[09:00] <Voi> hope i finally score with finding a working kernel supported distro
[09:00] <Ben64> Voi: what?
[09:01] <littlebit> hi people I tried to compile and install wine from source, and now I need to know how to uninstall / undo of what I did. can someone help?
[09:04] <Voi> ben64: on kernel 3.8 (12.04.3) my internet isnt working, on later kernels its working but i get GLU freezes all the time so unusable, older kernel linux are usually EOL
[09:04] <alexw> Huhh? http://paste.laravel.com/12GU I thought if I'm in www-data I can read/write
[09:05] <somsip> alexw: I would recommend adding yourself to www-data group (then logout and back in) and making dirs in /var/www to be g+s
[09:05] <alexw> I am in the group though?
[09:05] <alexw> groups says www-data
[09:06] <somsip> alexw: no g+w permission there then maybe?
[09:07] <alexw> what ls command do i need to show that
[09:07] <somsip> alexw: 770 on dirs and 660 might be better for you. But anything you do will be writeable by you unless you g+s on the dirs
[09:07] <somsip> *660 on files
[09:08] <somsip> alexw: though if you are about to install laravel, it only needs +w on a couple of directories so maybe g+s is a bit overkill for you
[09:10] <myndzi> doing a release upgrade, ran into this error: "supported_versions: WARNING: Unknown Ubuntu release: 12.10" ... any idea what that might be? i'm prompted for a password afterwards, which throws me into a loop (preconfiguring... unknown release.. etc.)
[09:10] <alexw> somsip just trying to get write permission from a deploy user
[09:10] <somsip> alexw: g+w on the directory then
[09:10] <alexw> and also allow nginx (www-data) read/write
[09:12] <alexw> somsip there we go :D
[09:12] <alexw> thanks
[09:12] <somsip> alexw: done? ok
[09:12] <alexw> yup g+w worked
[09:15] <faraway> hi if on my headless server the server stops on grub waiting for a keyboard, cause of a previous bootfail in which log file do i need to search for that fail
[09:16] <ikonia> faraway: you need to look on screen
[09:17] <huayra> is it just me or is 13.10 so buggy that it is in the edge of being totally unusable?
[09:17] <huayra> chrome, firefox, system monitor, guake
[09:17] <huayra> everything crashes all the time
[09:18] <ikonia> huayra: look for the common factors, research why they are crashing,
[09:18] <huayra> Anyone having similar issues?
[09:18] <faraway> ikonia: the server did not start correctly yesterday when i was not there. and was shut down with power of (or what ever) later. Now i started and it for sure shows up the grub menu.
[09:18] <ikonia> huayra: others have a totally mirror experience
[09:18] <ikonia> faraway: right, so that doesn't change what I said
[09:18] <huayra> DOn't have time for this, I downgrade to 13.04 I think.
[09:18] <huayra> Or upgrade to Debian testing
[09:18] <ikonia> huayra: ok
[09:18] <ikonia> ok
[09:19] <huayra> thx
[09:21] <sam113101> is there a shortcut for "fg" in bash/zsh?
[09:21] <ikonia> how short do you want the letter "fg" to be
[09:22] <sam113101> I mean, you press Ctrl+Z to suspend, is there a shortcut to do the opposite (fg)?
[09:24] <ikonia> sam113101: control z is paus
[09:24] <ikonia> pause
[09:31] <m3kk_> Sorry but what is linuxmint-chat channel?
[09:31] <m3kk_> Where
[09:31] <m3kk_> i was suppose to write where
[09:31] <cfhowlett> !mint
[09:33] <sam113101> why can't I switch to another workspace using my keyboard?
[09:34] <lxle120464> Hi am running  lubuntu lxle livecd but am having random access denied permission prblems with various programs accessing my data stored on hard drive Either music movies or documents Any Ideas ?
[09:37] <Ben64> lxle120464: lxle is not supported here
[09:42] <Pawnerd> Is it a bad thing to shut down an ubuntu server with the power button?
[09:43] <ObrienDave> normal shut down or the 5 second delay kill all shutdown?
[09:43] <DJones> Pawnerd: Its never a good idea to hard reset a machine if there's any other way of shutting down, it can lead to disk corruption
[09:43] <ola2> how to run a command with default options
[09:43] <ola2> means without asking anything to user
[09:43] <ola2> automatically fill values
[09:44] <somsip> ola2: what command?
[09:44] <ola2> openvas mk-cert
[09:44] <ola2> means any command
[09:44] <ola2> taking default value
[09:45] <ola2> silent run command without asking anything
[09:46] <somsip> ola2: what does the manual say?
[09:48] <Multiply> I'm writing a custom upstart script, starting instances, for each CPU core. Starting the instances by themselves works flawlessly, but starting the actual job, takes forever. No errors. Not output. It simply hangs. If I start it, ctrl+c and start it again, it claims it's started, yet it hasn't started anything at all?
[09:49] <ikonia> Multiply: put some debug in
[09:50] <Multiply> In the script, or?
[09:50] <ikonia> Multiply: sure, see what it does, and check the depends to see what would start/stop it launching
[09:53] <Multiply> ikonia, seems like it never actually runs the script, for some reason.
[09:53] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[09:53] <ikonia> Multiply: ok, so look at what it is set to depend on
[09:53] <silv3r_m00n> in ubuntu software center, if i search for apache it does not show apache2 http server
[09:53] <silv3r_m00n> why ?
[09:54] <reffcap09> hello guys just wondering does anyone know much about wineasio
[09:55] <reffcap09> i have no idea where to start on getting the files or compiling it
[09:55] <Multiply> ikonia, I'm not sure I follow.
[09:56] <Multiply> All it does, is "start on startup" and "stop on shutdown"
[09:56] <ikonia> Multiply: the upstart package should depend on things, what have you set it to depend on
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> silv3r_m00n: could install it using apt-get, bit easier
[09:56] <silv3r_m00n> ActionParsnip: i mean, is that how software center works ?
[09:56] <sam113101> this is what happens when you have hundreds of windows opened: http://i.imgur.com/vUitMen.jpg
[09:59] <barzogh> morning:)
[09:59] <reffcap09> will anyone be willing to help me with wineasio
[09:59] <reffcap09> if so i would be very gratefull
[10:00] <ola2> how to run command in ubuntu with automatic input fill
[10:01] <ola2> sorry i waS DISCONNECTED SO ASKING QUESTION AGAIN
[10:01] <reffcap09> ola2
[10:01] <ola2> yes sir
[10:02] <reffcap09> do you know how to install wineasio
[10:02] <ola2> no sir
[10:02] <huayra> ikonia, it was the kernel
[10:02] <reffcap09> dang im trying to figure out how to install it for controller and sound output
[10:02] <huayra> started the computerwith 3.8.x and it works flawlessly
[10:02] <huayra> still on 13.10
[10:03] <huayra> so I guess I will just uinstall 3.11 and roll with this
[10:03] <santosh> Anybody using Hindi layout please answer this: http://askubuntu.com/q/367761/49715
[10:04] <fishor> hello all, do any one use empathy call? And do any one has sound problems on 13.10?
[10:05] <ola2_> how to run terminal command without asking for permission
[10:06] <ola2_> means input
[10:06] <ola2_> plz help
[10:06] <cfhowlett> !patience|ola2,
[10:06] <ola2_> sorry
[10:07] <ikonia> ola2_: it will depend on the command, some take default by default, others require flags, others will not allow default and require user input
[10:07] <ola2_> the command is openvas-mkcert
[10:07] <ola2_> ikonia i solved that problem of openvas
[10:07] <ikonia> ola2_: I didn't ask the command, I explained it depends on the specific command
[10:08] <ola2_> ikonia dont get annoyed
[10:08] <ikonia> I'm not annoyed
[10:08] <ObrienDave> yet
[10:11] <cfhowlett> :)
[10:12] <ola2_> ikonia : i found that too
[10:12] <ola2_> its openvas-mkcert -q
[10:12] <ola2_> i found this in many commands
[10:12] <ola2_> i found -f , -q ...
[10:12] <ikonia> ola2_: it will depend on each command as I said
[10:12] <ola2_> no sir
[10:13] <ola2_> i found for most
[10:13] <ola2_> -force type commands
[10:13] <sgo11> hi, I forgot the command/app to modify application category etc... can anyone tell me please? thanks.
[10:13] <ikonia> ola2_: most = "not every command so it will depend on the specific command"
[10:13] <dksa> how can I disable /etc/init.d/apache2?
[10:13] <ola2_> not every command but most of it
[10:13] <geirha> sgo11: Are you thinking of alacarte?
[10:13] <ikonia> ola2_: eg: look at "man ls" -f does something very different,
[10:14] <ola2_> no no sir im not talking about those commands
[10:14] <sgo11> geirha, yeah, that's right. thanks a lot.
[10:14] <ikonia> ola2_: what command, you said 1 command
[10:14] <ikonia> ola2_: eg: if you look at ssh-keygen, egain -f does something totally different
[10:14] <ikonia> ola2_: so it is not "most" commands,
[10:15] <ola2_> like --force-depends type
[10:15] <ikonia> ola2_: no, that is not command in commands
[10:15] <ola2_> so most commonly force
[10:15] <ikonia> no, it is not common in most commands
[10:15] <ola2_> no no thats parameter to force
[10:15] <ikonia> ola2_: no, it is not common to be used in most commands at all
[10:16] <ola2_> o my ghod
[10:16] <ola2_> im helping ppl here
[10:16] <ikonia> you're giving VERY BAD advice to people
[10:16] <ola2_> may be someone asks for same
[10:16] <ola2_> it helps i know it
[10:16] <ikonia> no, it doesn't
[10:16] <ikonia> it's "wrong" hence why I'm correcting you
[10:26] <nightcrow> hiya guys - I have an ubuntu machine that I am using somewhat as a proxy - i want to create a user which can ONLY ssh to a given IP from that machine.
[10:27] <nightcrow> can someone help me with this please?
[10:27] <ikonia> nightcrow: you'd normally do that at the server end, not the client end
[10:28] <nightcrow> ikonia: i see
[10:29] <nightcrow> basically, I want to give someone remote access to my 'proxy' and then allow them to log in to the 'proxy' with a limited user, where that limited user can only perform one 'function', with that 'function' being the ability to SSH to another machine.
[10:29] <nightcrow> ikonia: i would have assumed this would be at the user level
[10:29] <nightcrow> not at the server
[10:30] <nightcrow> because the server cant differentiate which (remote) user is being used to log in to it.
[10:30] <ikonia> nightcrow: not really, as you'd have to make ssh aware of which user was running it and have associated rules for that user
[10:30] <nightcrow> i see
[10:30] <nightcrow> so how would I go about doing this?
[10:30] <ikonia> nightcrow: tools such as selinux for example, would be an obvious but tricky response, same for apparmor
[10:31] <nightcrow> hmmmm, ok
[10:31] <ikonia> nightcrow: you could look at trying to limit it with a config file in ~/.ssh/config
[10:31] <ikonia> ssh does support "per use" config
[10:31] <ikonia> per user
[10:31] <ola2_> ikonia: u know kernel programming
[10:31] <ola2_> can u help me
[10:31] <ikonia> ola2_: why ?
[10:32] <ola2_> i want to work on it
[10:32] <ola2_> i studied file structure
[10:32] <ikonia> what's stopping you ?
[10:32] <ola2_> i have downloaded source
[10:32] <ola2_> i edited it
[10:32] <ola2_> but when i redirect to it
[10:32] <ola2_> os doesnot starts
[10:32] <ola2_> blank screen
[10:32] <ikonia> ola2_: I don't mean this harsh, but you don't have a clue what you are doing
[10:32] <ikonia> you don't point at the kernel source
[10:33] <ikonia> you build a kernel - you build it corectly, then you point the boot loader to use that kernel to boot
[10:33] <nightcrow_> ikonia: sorry, i got cut off
[10:33] <ola2_> ya pointing is i think problem
[10:33] <nightcrow_> please can you tell me what I missed
[10:33] <ikonia> nightcrow_: what did you last see from me
[10:33] <ola2_> how to pint
[10:33] <ola2_> how to point
[10:33] <ikonia> ola2_: have you recompiled the kernel after you modified it ?
[10:33] <nightcrow_> nothing
[10:33] <ola2_> i pointed in grub files
[10:33] <ikonia> ola2_: have you recompiled the kernel after you modified it ?
[10:33] <nightcrow_> just the selinux
[10:33] <nightcrow_> and apparmor
[10:34] <ikonia> nightcrow_: ok, so ssh does allow "per user" config files in ~/.ssh/config you maybe able to limit him by putting a config file there and seeing if there is a way to use "knownhosts" to block him
[10:34] <ikonia> nightcrow_: may take a little bit of research, but that seems a possible way ?
[10:34] <nightcrow_> ah, good idea
[10:34] <nightcrow_> i didnt think of that
[10:34] <nightcrow_> ill look into it
[10:34] <ola2_> ya ikonia
[10:35] <nightcrow_> and update you if i succeed!
[10:35] <voltagex> hey, why isn't ports.ubuntu.com mirrored like the ubuntu archive is?
[10:35] <nightcrow_> thank you!
[10:35] <ola2_> it compiled without problem
[10:35] <ola2_> i just want to check
[10:35] <ola2_> compilation no problem but pointing is i think
[10:35] <ikonia> so if someone doesn't have ~/.ssh/config it will use /etc/ssh/ssh_config - so if you put a specific file in ~/.ssh/config it will override the default and you maybe able to block him
[10:35] <nightcrow_> ikonia: wouldnt he be able to modify the config and knownhosts file though?
[10:35] <ikonia> nightcrow_: no, as known hosts is not restricted unless the server is only accepting known hosts, thats why I said it was server side
[10:36] <ikonia> nightcrow_: you could try putting that servers key in known_hosts, then making it read only so it can't accept a key from any other host, and thus not log him in
[10:36] <reisio> voltagex: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PackageArchive#Ports
[10:36] <nightcrow_> ah, this is server side, not client side?
[10:36] <ikonia> nightcrow_: the tip I just gave you is client side, which is what you wanted, however if the server only accepts known hosts is server side.
[10:36] <nightcrow_> excellent
[10:36] <ikonia> nightcrow_: try the suggestion I've made, put the key in known_hosts for that user, then make it read only,
[10:36] <ikonia> but scrappy but may work
[10:36] <nightcrow_> thank you very much ikonia !
[10:37] <nightcrow_> ill do some research and ill update you if i succeed.
[10:37] <ikonia> ola2_: what is your kernel image called ?
[10:37] <voltagex> sigh
[10:37] <nightcrow_> bbl
[10:39] <universal> from where to get flash flash for new saucy and mozilla ?
[10:39] <universal> and where is dconf in saucy ?
[10:39] <Ben64> !info flashplugin-installer | universal
[10:41] <universal> Ben64: so I should do - sudo apt-get install "flashplugin-installer"
[10:41] <Ben64> that should do it
[10:41] <universal> what about dconf ?
[10:42] <Ben64> what do you mean exactly
[10:42] <universal> I want to open dconf in saucy !
[10:43] <Ben64> none of this stuff has changed, its always been flashplugin-installer, and dconf-tools still appears to be in saucy
[10:43] <zetheroo> how to install the ylib php extension in 12.04?
[10:44] <universal> but dconf came with ubuntu and looks like its removed in saucy
[10:45] <zetheroo> how to install the *zlib php extension in 12.04?
[10:46] <minimec> universal: sudo apt-get install dconf dconf-editor
[10:47] <universal> minimec: why is it removed from saucy ?
[10:49] <minimec> universal: If you run unity, dconf should be installed, just the editor is not probaby...
[10:50] <universal> minimec: well editor came with all the previous versions of ubuntu!
[10:50] <reisio> universal: all the previous versions of ubuntu didn't even have dconf, 'cause it didn't even exist for them all :)
[10:50] <reisio> apt-file will tell you what package provides what executable
[10:51] <minimec> universal: I am not sure with that, but let's face it. It doesn't really matter know, that you have it installed, right?
[10:51] <universal> reisio it was present in raring 12.10 precise natty etc
[10:51] <minimec> universal: now not know ;)
[10:51] <reisio> universal: I'm going to go ahead and say that that doesn't comprise 'all the previous versions of ubuntu'
[10:51] <reisio> :D
[10:52] <universal> lol ok....
[10:52] <universal> anyways saucy looks good - 1st day though :)
[10:52] <exalt> how is the top bar of unity correctly named ?
[10:53] <reisio> exalt: 'top bar'
[10:53] <reisio> or global menu, depending
[10:53] <exalt> reisio: okay, what do i do when my top bar is empty ?
[10:53] <reisio> exalt: I don't know, what do you want in it?
[10:53] <exalt> there is no global menu or systemtray visable
[10:54] <reisio> maybe those processes aren't running
[10:54] <exalt> reisio: how to start them ?
[10:55] <jboii> hi
[10:56] <jboii> can someone help me with an issue?
[10:56] <ObrienDave> exalt... right click on the bar and ADD to your heart's content
[10:56] <reisio> exalt: does dpkg -L indicator-appmenu produce any output?
[10:56] <cfhowlett> !ask|jboii,
[10:58] <jboii> i have just broken y monitor screen , and i got a monitor so i could still use my laptop , my issue is now that the usb mouse wont work , how can i fix this
[10:59] <cfhowlett> jboii, things to check: battery, LED ...
[10:59] <ObrienDave> connection,
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> jboii: maybe the ##hardware guys might wanna help you aswell
[11:00] <ObrienDave> don't break laptop displays... ;)
[11:01] <reisio> jboii: maybe your system thinks you're using two monitors, and the mouse cursor is on the one that's broken
[11:01] <Zerant> did someone got ubuntu 12.04 LTS Server on an Rapsberry Pi running yet?
[11:01] <jboii> the laptop mouse still works
[11:01] <cfhowlett> reisio, clever boy.  I didn't even think of that possibility
[11:01] <cfhowlett> !pi
[11:01] <cfhowlett> !raspberry
[11:02] <jboii> is there and app i can see if i can fix this ?
[11:02] <jboii> i need it to function
[11:02] <johnflux_> Hey all
[11:02] <reisio> Zerant: probably someone did, but officially Ubuntu doesn't support the arch for rpi
[11:02] <reisio> Zerant: https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi#Should_I_buy_a_Rasberry_Pi.3F
[11:02] <johnflux_> I have a package that relies on "ia32-libs"   but this package doesn't seem to exist any more
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> johnflux_: hi mate, what can we do for you
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> !info ia32-libs
[11:03] <reisio> johnflux_: any particular package?
[11:03] <johnflux_> reisio: the package that I want to install?  Something android package that I can't change
[11:04] <reisio> johnflux_: something android package that you can't change that you can specify by name?
[11:04] <ahoneybun> Zerant, not sure if there is a ARM port of it
[11:04] <Zerant> reisio: damn got an pi to my birthday from my girlfriend :D want to use it as an nagios server ...
[11:04] <johnflux_> reisio: yes, it's called xy-build-essentials
[11:05] <johnflux_> reisio: some propreitary / self packaged package
[11:05] <anand24nov> hi anyone knows about softdog kernel module
[11:05] <HisaoNakai> thanks for that link, reisio
[11:06] <anand24nov> I am facing problem in softdog its configured with 5 minutes timeout but even puncinh it successfully it calls watchdog_fire
[11:07] <reisio> Zerant: and only ubuntu has nagios in your head?
[11:08] <cfhowlett> reisio, good god, man.  I read that line out of context and it sounds SO wrong!
[11:08] <Ben64> Zerant: join #raspberrypi
[11:08] <exalt> ObrienDave: no reaction, reisio yes it shows paths to /usr/share/* /usr/lib/* and /etc/apport/*
[11:08] <Zerant> reisio: no, but i got ubuntu server 12.04 LTS on my Online Server and my HomeServer, so i wanted to keep the system everwhere else ;)
[11:08] <Zerant> Ben64: sweet thanks
[11:09] <reisio> cfhowlett: :p
[11:09] <reisio> Zerant: raspbian is going to be largely the same
[11:10] <Zerant> reisio: yeah just thought i could keep ubuntu ;) know that raspbian is nearly the same
[11:11] <reisio> Zerant: you probably can, with a lot more work than it'd be worth :)
[11:11] <reisio> like, more work than it would be to convert raspbian to the same thing
[11:11] <marlo_> any tricks to getting remote desktop sharing to go?
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> Zerant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/212346/can-a-raspberry-pi-run-ubuntu
[11:11] <XxOblivionxX> c0dered
[11:11] <johnflux_> with apt-get install, can I tell it to ignore dependencies?
[11:12] <marlo_> installed it, connected via vns, but i see no screen
[11:12] <marlo_> vnc
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | marlo_
[11:12] <reisio> marlo_: what do you see?
[11:12] <Ben64> johnflux_: sometimes, but they're called "dependencies" for a reason -- they are required for operation
[11:12] <marlo_> just a big black window
[11:12] <marlo_> no 'desktop'
[11:12] <reisio> marlo_: and if you right click?
[11:12] <jboii> anyone know how i can get my usb mouse to function while on a monitor ?
[11:13] <johnflux_> Ben64: yes, but it depends on ia32-libs  which has been removed from ubuntu :-(
[11:13] <otaku> hello everyone
[11:13] <reisio> 'lo otaku
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> otaku: hello mate, what can we do for you?
[11:13] <Ben64> johnflux_: nothing depends on ia32-libs, maybe 32 bit libraries, but those are still in ubuntu
[11:13] <cfhowlett> otaku, greetings
[11:13] <marlo_> reisio, nothing, albeit, this 'destkop' is on ctrl-alt-F8... another active login
[11:13] <Zerant> lotuspsychje: thanks ;)
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> Zerant: np
[11:14] <otaku> how can i find an dvd iso for 13.10
[11:14] <marlo_> unless perhaps i need to restart X or something
[11:14] <reisio> otaku: why do you want one?
[11:14] <cfhowlett> otaku, it's on the main download site
[11:14] <johnflux_> Ben64: It's a package from a non-standard repo
[11:14] <Ben64> johnflux_: what is it
[11:14] <otaku> where?
[11:15] <reisio> otaku: http://ftp.cs.pu.edu.tw/Linux/Ubuntu/ubuntu-cd/13.10/
[11:15] <johnflux_> Ben64: an internal company package  that installs required software
[11:15] <Ben64> johnflux_: well then you'll need to find out what it needs and install it
[11:17] <otaku> i've just find a 883m iso
[11:17] <Ben64> otaku: yep, now burn it to a dvd
[11:17] <cfhowlett> otaku,  or make a usb
[11:17] <otaku> but i want the 4gb+ one
[11:18] <reisio> otaku: why do you want such a thing?
[11:18] <marlo_> reisio, it has something to do with that i'm running that X session in a different... logon ? session ? not sure what to call it  the ctrl-alt-F7/F8 thing
[11:19] <reisio> marlo_: tty
[11:19] <reisio> marlo_: it's possible there is no DE configured to run, but unlikely
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> otaku: you can burn a 883mb iso on a dvd aswell
[11:19] <marlo_> it runs
[11:19] <reisio> marlo_: what does pgrep -l X | wc -l say?
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> otaku: or you searching for a 4gb iso?
[11:19] <marlo_> in f8 tty or the f7 tty i'm in now?
[11:19] <marlo_> or does it matter
[11:20] <otaku> yes
[11:20] <marlo_> reisio, 3
[11:21] <marlo_> two Xorg and one Vbox
[11:21] <otaku> i tried to google, but can't find it
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> otaku: ubuntu uses 883mb iso, then downloads the updates from the web
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> otaku: its not like those suse iso's from 4gig
[11:21] <cfhowlett> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads     are your choices.
[11:22] <xiaopi[z]> well 883 doesn't fit on a cd and you need at least a dvd.. better put the whole 4gb worth of package :D
[11:23] <xiaopi[z]> if people want to get their package or update online, just go for a netinstall
[11:23] <reisio> marlo_: did you want a new X to be started, or to connect to an existing one?
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> xiaopi[z]: you can always use usb
[11:24] <xiaopi[z]> 4g usb is pretty standard nowadays
[11:25] <marlo_> reisio, well.. i don't really want another X, I already have one on ctrl-alt-F8... pretty much just want to connect to that one.   i remember years ago you could start a vnc/X session from a tty... that mustv been 6 years ago
[11:25] <marlo_> it was klunky, but it worked
[11:25] <otaku> may i ask a question? is 12.10 support the ubuntu phone OS install?
[11:26] <cfhowlett> !touch|otaku
[11:26] <otaku> oh
[11:26] <marlo_> i'll just do it in my primary tty, that will handle the problem
[11:26] <Lynxx> hello
[11:26] <Lynxx> i have a q
[11:27] <Lynxx> how to open another server window in irssi
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !details|Lynxx,
[11:27] <reisio> Lynxx: /help server
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|Lynxx,
[11:27] <cer> hi everybody. I would like to try unity, but I am currently running a stable production kubuntu machine. I have installed the Unity meta package, but lightdm does not offer me the option of chosing unity.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Lynxx: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/irssi
[11:28] <cer> Any clue about how to launch Unity instead of KDE?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Lynxx: /connect /c These open a new connection to a server. This is what you want to use in order to connect to multiple servers simultaneously (Ctrl+X switches between multiple servers).
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> Lynxx  irssi has a local help file in your folders, somewhere file:///usr/share/doc/irssi/startup-HOWTO.html
[11:28] <Lynxx> thanks ActionParsnip  :)
[11:28] <reisio> it has all its help info in /help
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> cer: log off, select the Ubuntu session from the login page
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Lynxx: couldnt find that online?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Lynxx: all I did was search
[11:29] <Lynxx> was being lazy ActionParsnip  :P
[11:29] <cer> ActionParsnip: that is the point .... it does NOT offer me the Ubuntu session from the login page (the lighdm login page)
[11:29] <reisio> I was lazy ActionParsnip for halloween last year
[11:29] <Lynxx> lol reisio
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> cer: is there not a session changer at the bottom after you click your user name (I assume you use kdm)
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> cer: look for 'session type' maybe, just read the enire screen
[11:31] <cer> ActionParsnip: nope, I use lightdm, it is the deafult on all *ubuntu releases. when you click the session changer, unity is not shown.
[11:32] <cer> ActionParsnip: 'course I have done that. :)
[11:35] <minimec> cer: What was the 'unity meta package' you installed 'ubuntu-desktop'?
[11:36] <cer> minimec: nope, unity 7.1.2 64bit
[11:37] <minimec> cer: Ok. That is the source of the problem, I guess. So let's create a Desktop entry by hand.
[11:38] <OerHeks> cer unity is just the sidebar, install ubuntu-desktop to get the 'unity-session'
[11:39] <minimec> cer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6323517/
[11:39] <cer> OerHeks: the whole lot? mmmm .... this is really not what I would like.
[11:40] <minimec> cer: This will create a lightdm Desktop Entry for Unity. Maybe it works like that.
[11:40] <cer> minimec: that is a splendid idea, I had not though about it! thanks a lot ....
[11:41] <OerHeks> cer you could install the basic without all the apps, --without-recommends
[11:42] <OerHeks> wrong > --no-install-recommends
[11:44] <cer> OerHeks: that wuld be good as well, but it is still filling my installation with a lot of stuff I would prefer not to have.
[11:45] <OerHeks> cer, so then you won't  have unity desktop, installing unity is just not enough
[11:45] <murgero> Hey guys!
[11:46] <cfhowlett> murgero, greetings
[11:46] <murgero> How is everyone today?
[11:47] <NoSpoon42> hi
[11:47] <cer> OerHeks: thanks .... do you think minimec approach wold not work?
[11:47] <cfhowlett> NoSpoon42, greetings
[11:48] <OerHeks> cer, i think not, but you can try it out.
[11:49] <pseubodot> Trying to diagnose an X problem, post 13.04 -> 13.10 upgrade, all was working fine before. Nvidia card, nvidia-319 drivers installed during upgrade. Initial reboot after upgrade was fine, X came up, etc,  but in about a day or so X stopped displaying. X seems to be running (shelled in from another box). Whether I run X via lightdm or manually via startx (as my user or as root) the same thing happens. No obvious ERROR lines in Xorg.0.log or X.failsa
[11:50] <pseubodot> One clue is that X seems to cycle through monitor ID three times, in that a line like this '[240011.129] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (DELL 3007WFP (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
[11:50] <pseubodot> [240011.129] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
[11:50] <pseubodot> ' comes out 3 times with different time stamps/
[11:51] <pseubodot> I downgraded drivers to nvidia-304 but no change.
[11:51] <OerHeks> cer, you can perform'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends'  and see what the size of the desktop will be, you can cancel it anyway
[11:51] <n008> anyone using irssi ?
[11:51] <n008> how do I close a tab?
[11:51] <cer> OerHeks: yes, of course .... I have already done it.
[11:51] <pseubodot> n008: /window close ?
[11:51] <OerHeks> man irssi
[11:51] <n008> pseubodot: sweet
[11:52] <n008> pseubodot: shorter?
[11:52] <n008>  /window close is verbose
[11:52] <pseubodot> n008: and in penance, please read the man page
[11:52] <pseubodot> n008: :)
[11:52] <nabn> hi. yesterday i tried to install a software named dikto. I remember adding a line in /etc/apt/sources.list. while 'apt-get update' -ing, i get a key error like this:    W: GPG error: http://download.opensuse.org  Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY E3757B8E0D988D6E
[11:52] <nabn>       how do i solve this?
[11:52] <pseubodot> n008: no, I'm short enough, thanks. :)
[11:52] <n008> pseubodot: will always read the man page
[11:52] <cer> nabn: well, you need to add the key for the repopsitory
[11:52] <n008> always
[11:53] <cer> nabn: go back to the website and look for the key.
[11:53] <pseubodot> n008: excellent
[11:53] <n008> thank you Lord pseubodot
[11:53] <nabn> cer, i don't remember the website..
[11:53] <n008> man irrsi
[11:53] <pseubodot> n008: o/~ and we'll never be roooyaaaaals .... o/~ :)
[11:54] <pseubodot> n008: Oh. Not 'Lorde'. nevermind. :)
[11:54] <cer> nabn: ops .... that may be a problem .... you see apt is telling you that it does not have the key .... either you have it or not
[11:54] <nabn> cer, since the software is not installed, i can do with not having to check for the key. do you know of any way to do that?
[11:54] <n008> :p
[11:54] <cer> nabn: well, the best thing is to actually remove the repository from the list.
[11:54] <nabn> cer. yes. how do i do that?
[11:54]  * pseubodot does 'service coffeepot reload'
[11:55] <cer> nabn: what package manager do you use? open the package manager, go in the section for managing software source, and remove the repository.
[11:55] <n008> pseubodot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFasFq4GJYM
[11:56] <nabn> cer, apt-get. i removed the line from /etc/apt/sources.list . is there anything else i need to do?
[11:56] <cer> nabn: nope .... did you remove the source as well?
[11:57] <cer> nabn: the source code entry I mean/
[11:57] <nabn> cer, i don't think so. how do i remove an installed deb file please? ( i used dpkg -i to install it)
[11:57] <cer> nabn: I suggest apt-get purge package-name
[11:57] <nabn> cer, i'll try that. thanks.
[11:58] <cer> nabn: so you clean the system from the configuration files. Alternatively dpkg --purge package-name.
[11:59] <nabn> cer, it says the software isn't installed. It wasnt installed. I tried to install it, but i dont know what happened
[11:59] <nabn> cer, i did dpkg --purge
[11:59] <cer> nabn: did it work?
[11:59] <cer> nabn: is it half installed, or not installed at all?
[12:00] <nabn> cer, not installed at all, i think. no luck 'til now.
[12:00] <cer> nabn: well, try to run apt-get -f install .... it is half installed it will fix it.
[12:00] <cer> nabn: (unless there is a serious problem, of course)
[12:01] <nabn> cer, it says it's unable to find the package
[12:01] <cer> nabn: no, I mean "apt-get -f install" without the package name
[12:01] <nabn> cer, i am currently looking for the website i installed if from
[12:01] <nabn> cer, sorry. my bad. will try that.
[12:03] <nabn> cer, i did find out the website. http://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home:colomboem&package=dukto  i don't know what to do next
[12:03] <cer> nabn: it is for ubuntu 12.04
[12:05] <cer> nabn: but it gives you both the repository and the pgp key. I recommend you just download the appropriate package and then you try to install it using "sudo dpkg -i".
[12:05] <nabn> cer, but will solve the key problem?
[12:05] <nabn> cer, *will it
[12:05] <cer> nabn: downloading it manually? of course.
[12:06] <cer> nabn: (well, you do not solve it really .... you just do not create it in the first place)
[12:06] <nabn> cer, just to make it clear, will it solve the *existing* key problem?
[12:07] <cer> nabn: nope .... the only ways to resolve the existing key problem are 1) download and install the key OR 2) remove the repopsitories.
[12:07] <nabn> cer, thanks for the help. :)
[12:07] <cer> nabn: np
[12:08] <Isualin> hi guys, i want to use apt-get upgrade to
[12:08] <Isualin> upgrade my pacgakes
[12:09] <Isualin> but i have to use an old version of mongodb
[12:09] <Isualin> so how can i exclude it from upgrade list
[12:09] <IdleOne> !pinning
[12:10] <Isualin> Ok, i will look into it thanks.
[12:10] <IdleOne> yup.
[12:10] <cer> Isualin: apt-mark hold package_name
[12:10] <minimec> Isualin: You can put the mongodb package on 'hold', or apt-pin it to a Ubuntu distro, if the package comes from a older Ubuntu release.
[12:11] <cer> Isualin: apt-mark is only a wrapper around dpkg --set-selections, but it is easier to use.
[12:12] <cer> oh by the way, re the stuff we discusse a couple fo days ago about cpufreq, I think there is actually a bug in the kernel!
[12:19] <nerium> I'm trying to load this iptable file, but I'm getting an error on line 19
[12:19] <nerium> https://gist.github.com/oleander/5e3321af9bdb1311cc35
[12:20] <nerium> iptables-restore: line 19 failed
[12:20] <nerium> Why is that?
[12:26] <tsnider> I'm running precise and  have directly connected SAS disk storage to my server. If I mount a device after the node boots mount shows the device is mounted with the _netdev option. however the device mounted at boot time doesn't have that option. The option is not specified in /etc/fstab. Can any (every) one tell me what the difference is & why?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> nerium: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:26] <nerium> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS \n \l
[12:26] <murgero> Anyone know of any good server software to run on ubtunu 12.04 VPS?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> nerium: have you tried without the comment?
[12:27] <daftykins> murgero: define: "server software"
[12:27] <nanovirus> hey folks, having trouble getting a python script to run on doubleclick.  I've got #!/usr/bin/python as the first line, and set the file to executable, but it still just opens with my text editor... any ideas?
[12:27] <murgero> Media, Gaming, IRC, etc pretty much just anything that is everyday useful
[12:28] <daftykins> murgero: google is your friend for new progs really
[12:29] <murgero> I know, I just wanted ideas, like for Media, I am using PlexMediaServer
[12:32] <nerium> ActionParsnip: That worked, thanks!
[12:32] <excognac> hi all anybody knows how to install drivers for intel graphics when kubuntu fails to recognize graphics (thinks i'm on VM lol)
[12:33] <cer> excognac: which intel graphics?
[12:33] <murgero> You need to access the terminal from start up, then install the graphics.
[12:34] <murgero> I don't know the specifics though, sorry! :/
[12:34] <Johnson88232> is there any features lack between xubuntu, ubuntu etc? can steam games run on xubuntu if it works for ubuntu?
[12:34] <excognac> cer: core i5-4570 , intel hd graphics 4600 and kubuntu 12.04. works fine on 13.04 live session tho
[12:35] <cer> excognac: can you at least access the recovery menu?
[12:35] <gdos> how do i reinstall xorg display drivers ?
[12:37] <minimec> gdos: I would do it the 'ubuntu' way. First... 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', then go to 'additional drivers' in the 'software sources' and choose a driver if available.
[12:39] <cer> excognac: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=13815&lang=eng&OSVersion=Linux*&DownloadType=%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%09Drivers%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09
[12:39] <cer> excognac: this are the up to date original Intel drivers.
[12:40] <cer> excognac: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_haswell_hd4400&num=6 Phoronix suggests they also work really well.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> nerium: its the KISS mentality :)
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Johnson88232: steam just needs 3D accelleration, so will run fine
[12:42] <excognac> ty cer, looking these up
[12:44] <cer> excognac: np
[12:45] <excognac> cer: so basically i download everthing from https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/2013q3-intel-graphics-stack-release and install them?
[12:47] <ikonia> why are you downloading things from intel ?
[12:47] <excognac> ikonia: cos these drivers are not in for 12.04
[12:47] <ikonia> what drivers ?
[12:47] <ikonia> why are you not using the ones that ship with ubuntu ?
[12:49] <cer> ikonia: he is experiencing SERIOUS problems with the ubuntu drivers, I suggested to try the native drivers
[12:49] <theForce> hi folks
[12:49] <ikonia> cer: the ubuntu ones are native
[12:49] <cer> ikonia: mmmm .... they should but if they do not work, they do not work.
[12:50] <excognac> ikonia:  because of this: http://pastebin.kde.org/pt4posdqt
[12:50] <ikonia> cer: investigating why they don't work seems more logical than putting software on the machine that is outside of the repositories
[12:50] <theForce> i have 12.04 installed. now i want to install mysql-server-5.5.33+dfsg-1 from the debian sid repository. but when i do "aptitude install mysql-server=5.5.33+dfsg-1" i get the message "mysql-server-5.5 : Breaks: mysql-server (< 5.5.34-0ubuntu0.12.04.1) but 5.5.33+dfsg-1 is to be installed." and mysql-server will not be installed. how can i fix that?
[12:50] <ikonia> excognac: why are you pasting me information from vmware machines ?
[12:51] <ikonia> theForce: you shouldn't do that
[12:51] <ikonia> theForce: debian packages are not ubuntu packages and should not be used
[12:51] <excognac> ikonia:  this ios NOT a Vmware machine, a fresh install on a brand new computer
[12:52] <ikonia> excognac: 8.OpenGL vendor string:                   VMware, Inc.
[12:52] <ikonia> excognac: begs to differ
[12:52] <theForce> ikonia: i need mysql-server 5.5.33
[12:52] <theForce> afaik there is no ubuntu package for that
[12:52] <ikonia> theForce: that doesn't change what I said
[12:52] <cer> ikonia: mmmm .... well, if the drivers are not packaged for 12.04, and if the machien is a production machine, the first thing is to have the machine up and running in my opinion.
[12:52] <excognac> ikonia: cos it bloody fails to recognize the correct hardware
[12:52] <ikonia> excognac: that seems unlikley that it would randomly set the GL string to vmware
[12:53] <theForce> ikonia: is there a way to run mysql-server 5.5.33 on ubuntu 12.04?
[12:53] <ikonia> theForce: no idea, not looked, but if it's not in the repos I would not waste any more time on it
[12:53] <excognac> ikonia: this is the case. regardless how likely it is.
[12:53] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so what video card is actually there
[12:53] <theForce> ikonia: unfortunately that is not an option
[12:54] <excognac> ikonia:  core i5-4570 , intel hd graphics 4600 and kubuntu 12.04. works fine on 13.04 live session tho
[12:54] <cer> theForce: is it a production machine?
[12:55] <ikonia> sounds like someones desktop
[12:55] <ikonia> excognac: can you pastebin the output of "lspci" in a pastebi please.
[12:55] <theForce> cer: no. it's a vagrant box. but we have 5.5.33 running on production and want to have the same version in the dev instances
[12:55] <ikonia> theForce: so use the same packages/OS as your production machine
[12:56] <cer> theForce: you could recompile it.
[12:56] <ikonia> good lord no
[12:56] <josmala> I have a problem with wine/opensource radeon drivers, wine crashes on ALL applications no matter how old any help?
[12:56] <ikonia> josmala: try #winehq for wine support
[12:57] <gdos> minimec: nothing happens.
[12:58] <minimec> gdos: And... What should happen?
[12:58] <cer> theForce: first of all, have you looked at whether it has been backported, by any chance?
[12:58] <gdos> minimec: right now all of my fonts are monospace. can't change fonts in any applications or settings.
[13:00] <excognac> ikonia: http://pastebin.kde.org/py75c2zr8
[13:00] <minimec> gdos: I had to dig the logs to see what we were talking about...
[13:00] <ikonia> excognac: xeon ?? I thought you said it was an i5
[13:01] <excognac> ikonia: yes, i also said it fails to recognize
[13:01] <ikonia> excognac: can you do cat /proc/cpuinfo please
[13:01] <ikonia> (pastebin again)
[13:01] <theForce> cer: well i only found it in debian sid
[13:02] <minimec> gdos: So we were talking about xserver-xorg. Did you check for available drivers in the 'software sources'? And what would that have to do with font size?
[13:02] <ikonia> theForce: why don't you use the same OS for your dev box as your production box to keep them in sync
[13:02] <minimec> gdos: ... and fonts?
[13:02] <gdos> minimec: i can't even change to any nvidia drivers that 'software sources' are showing.
[13:02] <cer> excognac: you lspci is quite weird .... can you please do lspci -vv -s 00:02.0 and pastebinit?
[13:02] <excognac> ikonia: http://pastebin.kde.org/p7dbjusdx here you are
[13:02] <gdos> minimec: only fonts displayed are monospace.
[13:03] <ikonia> excognac: first thing to try is "sudo update-pciids" then re-check lspci
[13:03] <jack-> which saucy iso file allows me to try the most flavors?
[13:03] <ikonia> excognac: I'm guessing the video card is one of those onboard the cpu
[13:03] <cer> excognac: can you please do lspci -vv -s 00:02.0 and pastebinit?
[13:03] <minimec> gdos: Ok. So you have a nvidia GPU. Can you give me the output of 'lspci | grep VGA' please. -->paste.ubuntu.com
[13:03] <ikonia> jack-: they are all the same
[13:04] <theForce> ikonia: its more complicated then that. on production db and webserver are not on the same machine, of course
[13:04] <excognac> cer: http://pastebin.kde.org/p4ulnvgqu
[13:04] <jack-> no real klubuntu or so?
[13:04] <jack-> sigh
[13:04] <ikonia> jack-: you can try any desktop from any other ubuntu iso
[13:05] <gdos> minimec: what goes after grep? monospace font isn't displaying anything.
[13:05] <jack-> with a working inet connection, sure thing
[13:05] <gdos> minimec: 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE] (rev a2)
[13:05] <minimec> gdos: vga with big letters
[13:05] <ikonia> jack-: right, so then they are all the same in that they only install 1 desktop per iso
[13:05] <jack-> but without? tough luck
[13:05] <ikonia> jack-: so they will all limit you to the desktop they come with
[13:05] <jack-> yeah
[13:05] <excognac> ikonia: http://pastebin.kde.org/peufz3vbc
[13:05] <gdos> i'm thinking my font issues might be related to the video drivers somehow?
[13:06] <cer> excognac: mmmm .... can you please run it as root with sudo?
[13:06] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so the identifier is just rubbish
[13:06] <ikonia> cer: what ?
[13:06] <minimec> gdos: Ok I see that this is a quiet old nvidia card. If there is a restricted driver for that card, it would be an old legacy driver. Otherwise the card would use the opensource 'nouveau' driver.
[13:07] <excognac> cer: http://pastebin.kde.org/p2rc2mue8 as root
[13:07] <cer> excognac: mmmm .... can you please run it as root with sudo (sudo lspci -vv -s 00:02.0)?
[13:07] <excognac> cer: ^
[13:08] <minimec> gdos: I found this... http://askubuntu.com/questions/230762/how-do-i-install-the-nvidia-driver-for-my-nvidia-geforce-6150-le-on-ubuntu-12-04 pinting to this http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/12/install-nvidia-driver-31309-beta-in.html
[13:08] <cer> excognac: sorry .... did not see it ..... mmmm .... was that complete? it did not show the kernl module line ....
[13:08] <excognac> ikonia: so is there anyway to replace the identifier with a later version then?
[13:08] <gdos> minimec: i'm given the options of using drivers 179, 304, and 310.
[13:09] <excognac> cer: i pasted everything displayed
[13:09] <cer> excognac: some times the people who assemble somehwta screw up the ID .... I have seen it in the past.
[13:09] <ikonia> excognac: thats what you just did, but pci-id's are mostly worthless anyone so don't worry about that, check what xorg modules is being loaded for your video card
[13:09] <raub> Trying to upgrade a 11.10 machine to 12.04. So I told it to use old-releases.ubuntu.com. Error I am getting when i do apt-getupdate is W: Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric-backports/Release.gpg  Unable to connect to old-releases.ubuntu.com:http:
[13:09] <minimec> gdos: Start with the 'oldest' one --> 179, I had a GE7600 once, but I cannot remember what restricted driver I used.
[13:09] <gdos> OK.
[13:09] <OerHeks> excognac, sandy bridge new acceleration https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/IntelSNA > see the xorg.conf  attachment > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/IntelSNA?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=xorg.conf
[13:09] <excognac> ikonia: how do i check xorg modules?
[13:10] <gdos> minimec: hope this solves my font issue.
[13:10] <ikonia> xorg log
[13:10] <cer> excognac: but in your case the listing seems correct. Indeed it shows Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3 OR 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> raub: if you boot to the 12.04 install CD, you can upgrade that way
[13:10] <cer> excognac: the 4th generation is actually the 4400
[13:11] <cer> excognac: so this is correctly recognised. Now, why does it not load the module?
[13:11] <cer> excognac: can you give me your dmesg, please?
[13:12] <excognac> ikonia: http://pastebin.kde.org/pu4cpcu56
[13:12] <raub> ActionParsnip: really?
[13:12] <raub> I have never thought of that
[13:14] <excognac> cer: http://pastebin.kde.org/pl6nz9e1b
[13:15] <cer> excognac: so the CPu is properly recognised
[13:15] <excognac> cer, ikonia i'm sure I have ark.intel.com/products/75043
[13:16] <MrQuist_> Hey guys, i'm running Ubuntu 13.10 on a Lenovo T530 (with docking station). Whenever i connect a seconds screen over VGA, it works right. When i connect it to HDMI / DVI / DP (digital) - i get artifacts, such as the cursor is "sticking" to its old locations. Kind of like the screen isn't completely redrawn.
[13:16] <MrQuist_> With VGA i do not have this problem.
[13:17] <MrQuist_> Would anybody know what i can do to help that? I have installed Gnome3.10, but it also happens in Gnome 3.8 (default). I've tried the NVidia drivers, but those crashed my whole environment so i had to uninstall those.
[13:17] <cer> excognac: the module driver is called i915
[13:18] <cer> excognac: could you please do lsmod | grep -i i915?
[13:18] <cer> excognac: (sorry, I am cooking and I come and go from the screen:D ....)
[13:19] <ObrienDave> cer... hope you're making enough to share with us ;)
[13:19] <cousteau> the volume in Volume Control can be set to more than 100% (0 dB).  More exactly, it can be turned up to 11 dB.  This was an intentional pun, right?
[13:19] <excognac> cer: np, i'm washing dishes:))) it has no oputput
[13:20] <cer> excognac: then that is the problem .... the fact you are washing up ....
[13:20] <MrQuist_> Also the softwarecentre crashes every time i open it.
[13:20] <cer> excognac: :D .... I mean the fact you are not loading the correct driver.
[13:20] <excognac> cer: got it xD
[13:20] <MrQuist_> nevermind then
[13:21] <cer> excognac: could you please do "sudo modprobe -v i915" and let me have the output?
[13:21] <cer> ObrienDave: yes, virtual shares of course.
[13:22] <excognac> cer: http://pastebin.kde.org/pxstmxa91
[13:23] <cer> excognac: mmmm .... that should not really happen!
[13:23] <cer> could you do tail dmesg, and let me have the ouput?
[13:26] <cer> excognac: and also the uname -ram ....
[13:27] <excognac> cer: so tail -f dmesg?
[13:27] <excognac> cer: uname -ram
[13:27] <excognac> Linux mirageoffice 3.2.0-55-generic #85-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 2 12:29:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:28] <cer> last things modinfo i2c-core2
[13:29] <fatih> hi guys, i have a sound problem in games, i installed latest wine version. i'm using kubuntu 13.10 but i cant get sound call of juarez gunslinger, empire total war game on steam. what must i do?
[13:29] <excognac> cer: http://pastebin.kde.org/pd7jyecxz
[13:30] <FalconX> fatih, can you get sound working in other wine games?
[13:30] <fatih> thanks for your reply.  no icant get
[13:30] <hitsujiTMO> excognac: cer: i would have a guess that the GPU module isn't supported by that release considering it's so new. Maybe a later version of the module might be needed?
[13:30] <fatih> but i  can listen youtbe videos.
[13:30] <theForce> ikonia: its more complicated then that. on production db and webserver are not on the same machine, of courseåA
[13:30] <excognac> cer: modinfo i2c-core ERROR: modinfo: could not find module i2c-core
[13:30] <fatih> FalconX: i can hear system sounds.
[13:31] <cer> hitsujiTMO: this is what I suggested :)
[13:31] <fatih> but i cant hear any voices in games :(
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> fairlite: I believe there is an omgubuntu how to on this
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> fairlite: you mean the preview videos in flash?
[13:31] <cer> excognac: impossible, the dmesg shows that you have been loading it! could you please do lsmod | grep -i core
[13:32] <cer> hitsujiTMO: this is what I suggested :)
[13:32] <fatih> everything on system looks normal but i cant get any voices in games
[13:32] <Valeness> So if I want to delete the ubuntu partition from windows 7. Is there any way to repair the GRUB without a windows 7 repair disc?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> fairlite: do other games work ok, like open source ones?
[13:32] <excognac> cer: lsmod | grep -i core soundcore              15091  1 snd
[13:33] <fatih> i dont have any opensource game right now.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> fairlite: then install one....
[13:33] <cer> excognac: strange .... anyway, let's go back to my first suggestion. Could you please install the very last version of the module, and we take it from there?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> fatih: ^
[13:33] <fatih> any suggestion?
[13:33] <excognac> Valeness: yes, you need a live cd to delete ubuntu partition and add the diskspace for win
[13:33] <cer> excognac: using the first link I gave you.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> fatih: install a 3D open source game and play it. what sort of reply is "i dont have any" they are in the software centre
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> fatih: supertux, tux racer....
[13:34] <FalconX> fatih: Where did you get wine?
[13:34] <fatih> i get it from winehq.com
[13:34] <raub> ActionParsnip: So, boot off the server iso and select install ubuntu server?
[13:35] <Valeness> excognac: I know how to delete the ubuntu partition and reclaim the diskspace. But after I delete the partition, will I still be able to boot into windows 7 without a windows repair disc?
[13:35] <raub> When would it ask me if I want to upgrade?
[13:35] <excognac> Valeness: you should be able to
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> raub: oh you have server install? No desktop?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> raub: the desktop CD suggests an upgrade, try the server CD too, may do the same
[13:35] <excognac> cer: there is nothing to download there but it directs me to the link i sen tyou, you mean that?
[13:35] <fatih> i'm installing supertuxkart right now. i'll tell when it finishes.
[13:36] <Valeness> Hmm, I don't think I'll risk it on a should. I'll google some more :D
[13:37] <excognac> Valeness: make sure you delelet, shrink partitions. in the worst case you use the win7 cd, it messes up grub anyway to make win only boot partition.
[13:37] <rudefire> hello, I am having an issue with booting ubuntu
[13:37] <x0kster> hi guys, i have a little problem with my ubuntu 13.10 . The wifi connection after a little while it's connected goes down, and if i want to reconnect i can't because the SSID is no longer visible..if I remove the checkmark to "enable wifi" and then i enable it again..the connection with its SSID becomes visible again...how can i risolve this problem?? thanks
[13:37] <raub> ActionParsnip: this is a server vm. I can get the desktop iso if needed
[13:37] <Valeness> Aye, but if the worse case arrives. I don't have a win7 cd. :)
[13:37] <x0kster> P.S: Please sorry for my bad english :(
[13:37] <cer> excognac: yes, if you folow the link it will offer you a graphic installer
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> raub: if it is a server OS with no GUI, i would stick with it
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> x0kster: what wifi chip?
[13:38] <excognac> cer: it's 4 tar.bz2, right?
[13:38] <rudefire> i tried to install ubuntu a year or so ago, and i didn't work. after i deleted it, it would still show up in my boot options. I just installed it again, and everything worked perfectly, but the ubuntu boot option just tells me Windows can't start and that I need to start Windows Repair
[13:38] <FalconX> fatih: tell me if sound works.
[13:39] <cer> excognac: it is a very recent driver. Have you tried with backports first?
[13:39] <excognac> Valeness: label (flag) the win7 partition as boot in partition editor
[13:39] <x0kster> ActionParsnip, is a Realtek
[13:39] <Valeness> Ah, alright excognac
[13:39] <excognac> cer: no i haven't tried backports or anything since we are chatting. shall i go fiorst for backports then
 : i get sound like crystal from supertuxkart
[13:40] <_nrdb> I have a VM with low disk space ... I want to run "apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-32-generic"  .... but I can't it keeps asking me to do a "apt-get install" ... how do I fix this?
[13:40] <fatih> <FalconX: i've opened a steam game and no sound again :(
[13:40] <rudefire> can anyone help me?
[13:41] <foubarre> Hi. For some unknown reason, no mail client will connect to my mail server on two ubuntu boxes (13.04 and 13.10) while other machines can. Weirdest, on those machines, i can successfully telnet to port 587 and have the server respond to ehlo... any idea?
[13:41] <cer> excognac: yes, try backports first .... if they do not solve it, then download the last driver.
[13:41] <FalconX> fatih: maybe it's wine's fault?
[13:41] <m3kk> oh hai
[13:41] <FalconX> fatih: have you got wine 1.7.4 or 1.7.5?
[13:41] <m3kk> can someone tell me how i can connect  to linuxmint-chat lol? i cant find that channel.. the one that is autojoined with mint
[13:41] <marco_mesquita_> I'm trying to compile the 3.11 kernel (following advice from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile). When I type "AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs", I get "utils/helpers/amd.c:7:21: fatal error: pci/pci.h: No such file or directory
[13:41] <marco_mesquita_> compilation terminated." . What should I do?
[13:41] <lionrouge> hi ^_^
[13:42] <fatih> FalconX i open wine configuration right now. i opened sound tab.  i clicked sound test. and no sound again.
[13:42] <lionrouge> tell me please how to enable 3D acceleration with prop. AMD driver
[13:42] <fatih> <FalconX: i'm using wine 1.6
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> x0kster: realtek make a LOT of chips, which do you have
[13:42] <lionrouge> previous versions of Ubuntu offered to install prop. drivers but 13.04 doesn't
[13:42] <cer> marco_mesquita_: why do you give it the AUTOBILD?
[13:42] <rudefire> I really don't want to spam my issue, can anyone help me?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> x0kster: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network    you will be shown
[13:42] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you pastebin the output of: df -h
[13:42] <Romance> Hello, why is the command 'free' shows different output with the system monitor? in 'free' it shows i have used 1.9GB RAM (i have 3GB RAM) but in system monitor it shows i use 600MB of RAM
[13:43] <marco_mesquita_> cer: because https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile says so. I just copy-pasted commands
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Romance: use:  free -m   to make things easier (shows it in Mb)
[13:43] <rudefire> i tried to install ubuntu a year or so ago, and i didn't work. after i deleted it, it would still show up in my boot options. I just installed it again, and everything worked perfectly, but the ubuntu boot option just tells me Windows can't start and that I need to start Windows Repair
[13:43] <ObrienDave> !ask| rudefire
[13:43] <marco_mesquita_> cer: should I remove it?
[13:43] <x0kster> ActionParsnip,  yes sorry, it's a Realtek RTL 8185
[13:43] <FalconX> fatih: go to wine config's audio tab and tell me what it says under 'Selected driver' field
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Romance: can you pastebin the output of:  free -m; uname -a; lsb_release -a
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> x0kster: ok and what driver module?
[13:43] <Xat`> there are some guys to help me about samba serv ?
[13:44] <fatih> FalconX: winealsa.drv
[13:44] <hitsujiTMO> rudefire: is this an efi install?
[13:44] <x0kster> ActionParsnip,  rtl8180
[13:44] <marco_mesquita_> cer: removing AUTOBUILD has no effect
[13:44] <rudefire> I don't really know. I put the install files on a thumb drive, and did the full install
[13:44] <fatih> FalconX: i can also see hd-audo generi hdmi , hda intel pch -alc892 analog, out:default
[13:44] <rudefire> same thing with the old install
[13:45] <x0kster> ActionParsnip,  configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rtl8180 driverversion=3.11.0-12-generic firmware=N/A ip=192.168.1.25 latency=64 link=yes maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
[13:45] <FalconX> fatih: be sure it is on default
[13:45] <Romance> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324017/
[13:45] <rudefire> I didn't install it in windows, I booted to the thumb drive
[13:45] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324015/
[13:45] <fatih> FalconX: it's all default right now. i m clicking sound test but no sound.
[13:45] <fossxplorer> Any idea why i can copy from my mouse while into an SSH session in Precise?
[13:46] <x0kster> ActionParsnip,  but the connection doesn't have problems like slow connecton or low signal...just goes down every 15-20 minuti
[13:46] <hitsujiTMO> rudefire: can you giveme the output of: sudo blkid
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> x0kster: sureit's not the ath9k module, look for  "driver="
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Romance: ok so 3Gb RAM and using 533Mb
[13:47] <rudefire> I'm not in ubuntu. I'm in Windows.
[13:47] <fatih> FalconX: i can hear sooo low sound right now.
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> x0kster: when the connection drops, can you ping yout router's internal IP and / or 8.8.8.8?
[13:47] <Romance> ActionParsnip, ye that is on system monitor, but free -m showing different result?
[13:47] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: try: sudo apt-get clean
[13:47] <fatih> FalconX: froum test sound button
[13:47] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, allready tried that
[13:47] <FalconX> fatih: low or almost mute?
[13:48] <hispeed76> what is a better channel to discuss setting up apache?
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Romance: maybe system monitor is looking at some weird values. I'd always go by the 'free' output
[13:48] <hitsujiTMO> rudefire: sudo apt-get -f install
[13:48] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: : sudo apt-get -f install
[13:48] <LjL> hitsujiTMO: #httpd
[13:48] <LjL> hispeed76, even
[13:48] <fatih> FalconX: low and bad sound. i checked system sound tab and every sound bar is high.
[13:48] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[13:48] <hispeed76> lol.
[13:48] <hispeed76> thnx
[13:48] <x0kster> ActionParsnip,  i think no, because the connection goes down from my pc, not from internet..and the strange thing is that it disappears the SSID
[13:49] <hitsujiTMO> rudefire: can you boot the live usb please?
[13:49] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, can't ... it tries to install yet another kernel there isn't enough memory
[13:49] <cer> marco_mesquita_: apologies, I really have to go .... I had problems with that document as well in the past. Can you use the traditional debian way, instead of the debian/rules way? I can vouch it works.
[13:49] <FalconX> fatih: is any field's name something like 'Wine loader' ?
[13:49] <rudefire> I can't run those commands. my issue is there is an old ubuntu install that isn't actually there anymore. so when I try to use it, it just gives me a bad memory address and tells me to run windows repair
[13:49] <rudefire> is there a way to delete things from my boot registry?
[13:49] <marco_mesquita_> cer: ok, I'll try the traditional debain way then
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: dpkg --get-selection | grep linux-
[13:50] <fatih> FalconX: i get sound from empire total war :) i dont know what happened but sound like crystal
[13:50] <fatih> FalconX: i trie another game and still no sound.
[13:50] <excognac> cer: ok,  i'm sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates now
[13:50] <fatih> FalconX:  should be a game problem?
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> rudefire: can you boot the live cd so you can have the tools to fix the problem please. there's an irc client on it too
[13:51] <rudefire> will do
[13:51] <cer> excognac: did it work? because I really haev to go .... if it does not work with backports, then install the proper driver frojm the links I gave you.
[13:51] <x0kster> ActionParsnip,  i think was the power management, but it's off
[13:51] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, I get "unknown option --get-selection"
[13:52] <excognac> cer: jsut tell me how do i check it from commandline if it's fine
[13:52] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: --get-selections       sorry
[13:53] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO,  I get a list of about 26 entries
[13:53] <FalconX> fatih: what else have you got under wine?
[13:53] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you pastebin them please
[13:53] <fatih> FalconX: i have call of juarez gunslinger and empire total war.
[13:54] <cer> excognac: lsmod | grep -i i915 should show you the module has been loaded
[13:54] <foubarre> Hi. For some unknown reason, no mail client will connect to my mail server on two ubuntu boxes (13.04 and 13.10) while other machines can. Weirdest, on the ubuntu machines, i can successfully telnet to port 587 and have the server respond to ehlo... I am therefore certain that it is not a firewall problem. any idea?
[13:54] <fatih> FalconX: sorry i think i understand your question incorrectly. i have only steam
[13:55] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324061/
[13:55] <cer> excognac: lspci -vv -s 00:02.0 should show you that the module i915 has been "linked" to your graphic card
[13:55] <excognac> cer: still doesn't work, so install the tar.bz2 files
[13:55] <FalconX> fatih: so you use wine only to install steam games and nothing else?
[13:55] <fatih> FalconX: today is moy holiday and i want to make this day for a game holiday but i'm busy with sound issue still 10.00
[13:56] <cer> excognac: try sudo modprobe -v i915 first!
[13:56] <fatih> FalconX: i'll install some statistical softwares too but i installed kubuntu today.
[13:56] <excognac> cer: still fatal error
[13:56] <fossxplorer> Quite a different way of adding virtual net adapters in Ubuntu vs CentOS
[13:56] <fatih> FalconX: i'll install some statistical softwares too but i installed kubuntu today.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> x0kster: is there a bug reported?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> FourDollars: can you ping the servers by name and/or IP?
[13:57] <cer> excognac: then install teh very last module .... and goo luck!!
[13:57] <cer> excognac: talk to you later.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> fossxplorer: I use ifconfig in all linuxes and it works
[13:58] <fossxplorer> ActionParsnip, for adding virtual ethx as well?
[13:58] <FalconX> fatih: try typing pulseaudio in terminal and tell me what it gives?
[13:58] <excognac> cer: ty a lot bro''''''''''1
[13:58] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you run these commands please: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324077/
[13:58] <fatih> FalconX: E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[13:58] <fatih> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() başarısız oldu.  (create - failed )
[13:58] <cer> excognac: np!!
[13:59] <fatih> FalconX: E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[13:59] <fatih> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() başarısız oldu.
[13:59] <x0kster> ActionParsnip, i googled "ubuntu wifi down SSID disappears" but i didn't find something helpful, and i didn't reported any bug
[13:59] <kribbio> ciao
[14:00] <FalconX> fatih: ok?
[14:00] <FalconX> fatih: your problem is really a mystery.
[14:00] <fatih> FalconX: daemon already runnign pa_pid flie create() failed
[14:01] <FalconX> fatih: it means that sound server is working. So i don't see problem here.
[14:01] <fatih> FalconX:  may be there is a problem with this game :(
[14:02] <FalconX> fatih: and call of juarez wasn't reported as not working
[14:02] <FalconX> fatih: but i wonder how did you get empire total war to work properly
[14:03] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, it didn't work ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324093/
[14:03] <fatih> FalconX: i dont know. empire's sound is better than windows right now
[14:03] <fatih> FalconX: thank you very much. i got your time. you're amazing.
[14:03] <FalconX> fatih: i meant that it was reported to crash while loading a battle
[14:03] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: whats the output of: uname -r
[14:04] <FalconX> fatih: so you're both lucky and unlucky
[14:04] <michele__> if there is any rosegarden's user in there can pm me plz?
[14:04] <fatih> FalconX: i still have random crash problems but i dont know.
[14:04] <_nrdb> 3.2.0-53-generic
[14:05] <_nrdb> HisaoNakai, 3.2.0-53-generic
[14:05] <fatih> FalconX: i have to quite right now because my eyes are really tired and i'm too bored :)
[14:05] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, 3.2.0-53-generic
[14:05] <FalconX> fatih: tired, so early?
[14:05] <micros> hello. every time i boot a linux image on a different machine, I always get the same data from /dev/random.  this of course makes some sense, but how should i set the seed or add entropy in a sane manner?
[14:06] <fatih> FalconX: thanks for your help again. i am awake from 07.00 am and i'm trying to solve linux problems as a newbie
[14:06] <michele__> try with /dev/urandom
[14:07] <FalconX> fatih: i was there too, so don't worry too much. I had problems with many other things, and still have.
[14:07] <micros> but wont it generate the same set of numbers every time as well?
[14:07] <kambavanan> hi
[14:07] <micros> assuming that its a fresh image on the first boot
[14:07] <MrQuist> why are there no normal drivers for everything for linux
[14:07] <MrQuist> i hate linux because of unsupported crap and weird bugs
[14:07] <fatih> FalconX: :) thanks again. have a nice day. ;)
[14:07] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: try adding --force-all   flag
[14:07] <MrQuist> i hate myself for having to switch back to windows now
[14:07] <marco_mesquita_> MrQuist: define normal drivers
[14:07] <FalconX> fatih: you too.
[14:08] <MrQuist> a working video card driver for lenovo T530
[14:08] <MrQuist> a working docking station
[14:08] <MrQuist> working digital connected secondary screens
[14:08] <MrQuist> working sound card
[14:08] <MrQuist> working software centre
[14:08] <MrQuist> a normal GUI
[14:09] <MrQuist> normal workign Java
[14:09] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, ... run the command "dpkg --force-all --purge linux-headers-3.2.0-32"
[14:09] <MrQuist> i hate windows for messing up line endings. no good git support. All cool server stuff works great on linux.
[14:09] <FalconX> MrQuist: you got weird problems here.
[14:09] <MrQuist> FalconX: i gave up.
[14:10] <bean> I'd use a VM for all of the *nix stuff I miss, personally. MrQuist
[14:10] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: sorry: do -generic first
[14:10] <MrQuist> bean, i do use a VM
[14:10] <MrQuist> but i have VM's for developing websites
[14:10] <MrQuist> with a shared mount to the host
[14:10] <marco_mesquita_> MrQuist: you should question the manufacturer why not they support linux drivers. That's the real problem
[14:10] <MrQuist> where my git project is located
[14:10] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, ... run the command "dpkg --force-all --purge linux-headers-3.2.0-32-generic"
[14:10] <MrQuist> marco_mesquita_: they do kind of. They ship the laptop with Windows or Ubuntu
[14:10] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: without the --force-all
[14:10] <FalconX> MrQuist: those shitty lenovo laptops are somewhat hard to get working on linux. I mean those Optimus ones
[14:11] <bean> meh, my optimus lenovo works fine with ubuntu
[14:11] <marco_mesquita_> MrQuist: the one which ships with Ubuntu should have no problems then
[14:11] <MrQuist> FalconX: yeah i noticed... tried 12.04, 12.10, 13.10,
[14:11] <bean> granted i haven't upgraded to 13.10 yet
[14:11] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, done ... ok
[14:11] <MrQuist> nvidida drivers mess up everything. Gnome3 is buggy. Unity is shit.
[14:11] <FalconX> MrQuist: from what i know, you didn't get optimus to work, right?
[14:11] <MrQuist> Cinnamon is also shit.
[14:11] <MrQuist> Optimus?
[14:11] <MrQuist> the GPU stuff?
[14:12] <FalconX> MrQuist: yes
[14:12] <MrQuist> Don't know.. I just installed the nvidia-* driver stuff (tried 178 and 301 i believe)
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: and now run: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324140/
[14:13] <FalconX> MrQuist: You've got dual graphics here. Like mine.
[14:13] <MrQuist> then wanted to go back to my party working 12.04. Crashes because of nvidia drivers. Tried to delete them. No disc space left to delete them (what the hell). From live CD, extended the FS of the original one. Reboot. Got into GRUB EMERENCY RECOVERY
[14:13] <MrQuist> god,,, once i have a spare month of time i'll try to fix ubuntu on there.
[14:14] <MrQuist> too bad because if ubuntu works right its lovely...
[14:14] <xll11> I changed my screen driver to something else, now when I rebooted the computer, I get plain desktop screen with nothing on it
[14:14] <xll11> what to do?
[14:14] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, done
[14:14] <xll11> after I log in, ofc
[14:14] <MrQuist> xll11: your name says all
[14:15] <MrQuist> also try to change to another manager (gnome, unity) - if i recall correct you can change it in the login screen
[14:15] <FalconX> MrQuist: i changed my display manager twice
[14:15] <MrQuist> i did that about 3 times
[14:15] <FalconX> MrQuist: and my desktop three times
[14:15] <MrQuist> Unity -> Unity 2D -> Gnome -> Cinnamon
[14:16] <FalconX> MrQuist: i did almost the same
[14:16] <MrQuist> then somewhere some idiot setting got stuck - flash screen on error bleep. Never got rid of that even tho it was disabled in my Unversial Access settings
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: might as well get rid of all the unnecessary ones: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324159/
[14:16] <MrQuist> so every bleep the screen flashes (lovely)
[14:16] <FalconX> MrQuist: Screen flash? that's something new
[14:17] <MrQuist> Oh, and the digital video output didnt work so i was stuck on VGA on 1920x1200 (also lovely)
[14:17] <xll11> MrQuist, why does my name says it all? also there is no options to change anything on the login screen
[14:17] <xll11> :P
[14:17] <FalconX> MrQuist: i only get minor screen refresh glitch
[14:17] <MrQuist> no its noyt, check out access settings for deaf people
[14:17] <MrQuist> you can flash the screen on an error beep
[14:17] <MrQuist> my 13.10 digital video worked. Except for the part that there was no refresh kind of thing, so the cursor left a trail of cursors.
[14:18] <xll11> is there a way I can force terminal boot? and from there maybe do a system restore?
[14:18] <FalconX> MrQuist: The worst problem with linux i have is
[14:18] <reisio> xll11: hrmm?
[14:18] <MrQuist> xll11: when you're int he login screen, try CTRL+ALT+F1 / F2 / F3
[14:18] <FalconX> MrQuist: getting Shift-JIS encoding to work.
[14:18] <MrQuist> switch to a tty
[14:19] <MrQuist> FalconX: Then either you're lucky or i am very unlucky
[14:19] <hitsujiTMO> xll11: add kernel option: text
[14:19] <ryao> Where can I find the Ubuntu 11.10 ISO? I am on a system that is having trouble with its NIC, so using Google to find out is somewhat difficult right now.
[14:19] <FalconX> MrQuist: i mean at the moment
[14:19] <reisio> ryao: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[14:19] <ryao> This systems' motherboard is likely going to be RMAed. I just need to run Ubuntu 11.10 on it so I can tlel the manufacturer that I tried a supported OS.
[14:19] <ryao> reisio: Thanks.
[14:20] <FalconX> MrQuist: because whole text in txt file is broken because it's encoded in shift-jis and i can't get to open it.
[14:20] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: once thats done, can you pastebin the output of: df -h
[14:20] <MrQuist> welp. Windows is installed. How weird, everything works :D
[14:20] <reisio> ryao: actually maybe http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/ would be better
[14:20] <ryao> 11.10 does not appear to be on these mirrors. :/
[14:20] <MrQuist> FalconX: thats what i mean.. Those issues really only occur on linux.
[14:20] <FalconX> MrQuist: no
[14:20] <minimec> xll11: <ctrl><alt>F1; login...; 'sudo apt-get purge fglrx' (<-- AMD/ATI), 'sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current' (<-- for nvidia), 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' (reset xorg), 'sudo reboot' ...
[14:20] <MrQuist> lever had that kind of crap with windows.
[14:20] <ryao> reisio: Thanks.
[14:20] <FalconX> MrQuist: this one occurs also on windows
[14:21] <hitsujiTMO> !eol | ryan
[14:21] <reisio> ryao: yeah just noticed, sorry I don't grok Ubuntu retiring protocols :p
[14:21] <FalconX> MrQuist: but is easier to fix there
[14:21] <minimec> xll11: That's what I would try in your case.
[14:22] <MrQuist> It does? weird
[14:22] <MrQuist> anyhow
[14:22] <ryao> hitsujiTMO: I think you meant ryao and that does not change the fact that 11,10 is on Supermicro's support list.
[14:22] <xll11> minimec did it, lets see whats up now, thanks :)
[14:22] <MrQuist> i wish i was a C++ guru
[14:22] <FalconX> MrQuist: I wish i was C++ guru too.
[14:22] <ryao> MrQuist: Why?
[14:22] <MrQuist> i'd fix all this buggy shit instead of making a "new and better" unity
[14:22] <hitsujiTMO> ryao: 11.10 is removed from all mirrors as it is EOL
[14:23] <xll11> argh, minimec, not working =(
[14:23] <ryao> hitsujiTMO: I still need it so that I can tell supermicro that I tried a supported OS and the NICs did not work properly.
[14:23] <marco_mesquita_> ladies gentlemen, I think it is time to stop feeding the trolls
[14:23] <minimec> xll11: Do you know, which driver you installed?
[14:23] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, thanks for the help ... I have purged the old kernels.
[14:23] <xll11> I'll try upgrade my package since I've been given the option
[14:24] <FalconX> MrQuist: only driver issues i've got now are 'bluetooth not working' and 'graphics performance is almost crap'
[14:24] <xll11> minimec I changed it to the last propetiray driver of amd/ati (pretty sure it was fglrx)
[14:24] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you run: sudo apt-get -f upgrade                    now?
[14:24] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you run: sudo apt-get -f install                    now?
[14:25] <minimec> xll11: Hmmm... try 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg-old.conf'
[14:25] <xll11> Oh well it's updating the package now ^^
[14:26] <minimec> xll11: If it is updating the fglrx package, you did not remove it...
[14:31] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, the "apt-get -f install" is generating errors ... :-(
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you pastebin the errors
[14:32] <hacp> would ubuntu run slow on a external usb hd?
[14:33] <minimec> hacp: Well it should. I run a full installation on USB Sticks.
[14:33] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324260/
[14:33] <hacp> minimec: but hw fast is it?
[14:33] <KotaroDesign> Hello everyone. I have a slight problem with my Ubuntu Server. I am running on Ubuntu 13.10 (GNU/Linux 3.11.0-12-generic x86_64) and I have previously installed LAMP as well as WordPress and another Web App. All of them function fine, but now I have a problem with installing my mailserver. I installed postfix, not sure if properly though, and now I want to install iRedMail. I went through the configuration with
[14:33] <KotaroDesign> "bash iRedMail.sh" and followed the instructions. At the end a Warning popped up and I answered with "Y". Basically I get the following error at the end: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a5a3fac1f06a43de6b0e
[14:33] <hacp> must be slow I assueme
[14:34] <minimec> hacp: Well with USB3 it is pretty damn fast... Faster than a crypted internal laptop harddisk.
[14:35] <hacp> oh I see
[14:35] <hacp> so then you have to get a usb 3.0 hd in order to get the speed benefits right?
[14:35] <JasonS> Hello all
[14:36] <minimec> hacp: And you can put /tmp and /swap to RAM to limit write cicles and to speed up the system.
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: are you getting errors with: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:36] <hacp> ok
[14:36] <hacp> cool
[14:36] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, no that goes fine
[14:37] <JasonS> Can some one help me with a problem. I am using 12.04 and my machine freezes in the first few minutes of accessing the desktop
[14:37] <JasonS> And its the same I believe in 12.10
[14:37] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, no that is wrong... it says to a apt-get -f install
[14:38] <minimec> hacp: Yes you need compatible hardware. I can recommend the SAN Disk extreme 64GB stick.
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: ok, lol. looks like the best thing to di is to manually install the new packages
[14:41] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, ok ... how?
[14:41] <JasonS> Anyone?
[14:42] <MrQuist> JasonS: i had the same crap
[14:42] <MrQuist> reinstall 3 times helped for me
[14:42] <MrQuist> but i am not suggesting that as a solution.
[14:42] <JasonS> I've tried several installs using different versions of ubuntu
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: are you on 32 or 64bit?
[14:43] <JasonS> its 32 bit
[14:43] <MrQuist> JasonS: check your CPU / GPU temperatures
[14:44] <minimec> JasonS: HAve you once tried to disable all 'powersave' options for the screen and other stuff... Did you tune the kernel parameters?
[14:44] <MrQuist> +1 for ubuntu. Tweak / compile your own kernel so that your mouse works :D
[14:45] <JasonS> No I havent tried to disable any powersave and I am using the stock kernals
[14:45] <MrQuist> JasonS: did you check the temperatures?
[14:46] <esde> On a fresh install of server 12.04 64-bit, i ran update, upgrade, then dist-upgrade. Then i installed php5 and it's dependencies, and added the percona source to my sources and installed percona-server-client-5.5 percona-server-server-5.5 and libmysqlclient-dev. Then I see this error http://pastebin.com/PKaKkkr2 when trying to run a script dealing with php and mysql, what can I do to resolve this? I found this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10759334/hea
[14:46] <esde> ders-and-client-library-minor-version-mismatch but I'm not sure how to do the steps indicated. Any help would be awesome!
[14:46] <JasonS> Also I did a thorough cleaning of the heatsink and applied new thermal paste. I thought I may have been overheating.
[14:46] <MrQuist> JasonS: did you check the temperatures?
[14:46] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you tell me the output of: uname -a
[14:46] <JasonS> I dont remeber what the temps where when I checked since I been sitting on this problem a while now
[14:47] <MrQuist> so the pc just shuts down after a few minutes?
[14:47] <JasonS> I dont believe they were high at all
[14:47] <MrQuist> gracefully? or does it freeze? or does it suddenly power off?
[14:47] <JasonS> No it does not shut down. It freezes, I get no response from the mouse or keyboard
[14:47] <MrQuist> FunnyLookinHat [~funnylook@ubuntu/member/funnylookinhat] has joined #ubuntu
[14:47] <MrQuist> CatKiller [~catkiller@unaffiliated/catkiller] has joined #ubuntu
[14:47] <_nrdb> uname -a
[14:47] <SPEEDWAVE> maybe the processor is over-heated
[14:47] <MrQuist> Watch out cat in hat
[14:48] <MrQuist> JasonS: have you checked the temperatures?
[14:48] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO,  "Linux share 3.2.0-53-generic #81-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 22 21:01:03 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[14:48] <JasonS> Yes I have and as I recall they were not running hot
[14:48] <MrQuist> after you've checked those - try unplugging any external hardware, see if any of that causes the error
[14:49] <FunnyLookinHat> YOU RANG?
[14:49] <FunnyLookinHat> lol.
[14:49] <SPEEDWAVE> try to cmos clear
[14:49] <jony_easyrider> I cannot decide which OS should I instal on an old PC (celeron 2ghz, 512mb RAM): Ubuntu 10.04 or Lubuntu 12.04, please help
[14:49] <minimec> JasonS: Did you check the syslog files. There is probably some info in /var/log/syslog
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you wget this file: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-image-generic_3.2.0.55.65_amd64.deb         and then run: sudo dpkg -i linux-image-generic_3.2.0.55.65_amd64.deb
[14:50] <JasonS> How can I check the log files when it freezes?
[14:51] <minimec> JasonS: If the machine is still running, you can login from a different machine with ssh.
[14:51] <MrQuist> Or try CTRL+ALT+F2 / F1 / F4 / F3 (switch tty)
[14:51] <minimec> JasonS: 'sudo apt-get install ssh' first on the machine that freeses.
[14:51] <JasonS> Doesnt an ssh server need to be setup forst?
[14:51] <DJones> jony_easyrider: If its a desktop version you're looking for, forget Ubuntu 10.04, its end of life so no longer supported
[14:51] <minimec> JasonS: yas ;)
[14:51] <MrQuist> JasonS: how about just pinging it
[14:51] <matrix_> plhfcnt
[14:51] <matrix_> здрасте
[14:51] <altayr> hello everyone, first time here
[14:52] <matrix_> есть русскоговорящие?
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: then can you do the same with the: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-headers-generic_3.2.0.55.65_amd64.deb     and then : dpkg -i linux-headers-generic_3.2.0.55.65_amd64.deb
[14:52] <MrQuist> try that first. Keep a ping open from another machine. If that also stops you'll notice that a very low level system also freezes
[14:52] <MrQuist> matrix_: please use english
[14:52] <jony_easyrider> DJones, yes, it's a desktop, but it's very slooow
[14:52] <DJones> !ru | matrix_
[14:52] <MrQuist> !nl | MrQuist
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: that last command should with sudo ofc: sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-generic_3.2.0.55.65_amd64.deb
[14:53] <JasonS> and I assume the syslog is a text file correct?
[14:53] <DJones> jony_easyrider: I'd try either Lubuntu or Xubuntu on that spec, personally I normally go with Lubuntu on low spec machines because I prefer the desktop, but may be worth you trying both versions before deciding which suits you best
[14:53] <matrix_> I do not speak English
[14:53] <MrQuist> Lol. Paradox
[14:53] <MrQuist> matrix_ -> /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:54] <MrQuist> matrix_: njet blabla russia
[14:54] <MrQuist> natrmatmasdf
[14:54] <MrQuist> matrix_: мы не говорим России
[14:55] <jony_easyrider> DJones, I tried and used for a while already both versions, conclusion: 10.04 is faster, 12.04 is slower but it's up to date
[14:55] <rtcg72a> hi, I have a Creative Awe 64 ISA sound card that I would like to use with ubuntu. I followed the advice at one of the ubuntu forum posts and used sudo modprobe snd-sbawe. However, I still got no sound. Did I go wrong somewhere?
[14:55] <matrix_> and to whom you say?
[14:56] <jboii> hi
[14:56] <jboii> can someone help me with this
[14:57] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, those commands worked :-) ... but the "apt -f install" still failed.
[14:57] <JasonS> I am going to check the log file and see what clies it leaves me.
[14:57] <jboii> i need to fix my usb mouse to function with x11 , can someone help me with this?
[14:58] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: can you give me the exact error now
[14:58] <jboii> i am desperate , i have been having issues with this all night
[14:59] <CatKiller> jboii: What are the symptoms
[15:00] <jboii> broken screen , acer monitor , usb mouse connected to ubuntu , cannot find a solution to get this to work
[15:00] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324379/
[15:01] <CatKiller> jboii: What are the symptoms? The mouse doesn't power up? It's slow tracking, or it's not tracking but it's powered on?
[15:01] <frew> anyone know how I can find out what caused my computer to come out of susepnd?
[15:01] <CatKiller> Does it work on another machine
[15:01] <CatKiller> etc etc
[15:01] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: wget http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-generic_3.2.0.55.65_amd64.deb && sudo dpkg -i linux-generic_3.2.0.55.65_amd64.deb
[15:01] <jboii> the mouse itself will only move in log in screen , in ubuntu it wont move
[15:02] <jboii> yes it works , soon as i log in , its not moving
[15:03] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: after that can you pastebin the error of: sudo apt-get -f install     if it fails
[15:03] <CatKiller> jboii: That's kind of crazy. Anything you might have done that you think may have caused this?
[15:03] <CatKiller> Does it work on a Ubuntu liveCD/USB key?
[15:04] <jboii> i ended up with a broken laptop screen yesterday , so i had to buy a monitor
[15:04] <jboii> since than , the mouse itself is having problems moving
[15:04] <jboii> usb mouse
[15:04] <CatKiller> jboii: mhhh Can you see the cursor at all?
[15:04] <CatKiller> Maybe the new monitor is detected as an extended monitor
[15:04] <CatKiller> and your mouse cursor is present on the "other" monitor that's currently broken
[15:04] <jboii> yes , i have to use the laptop as a keyboard and mouse meanwhile tryin to fi this
[15:04] <mapsRus> Anyone know if there is a way to dump the terminal cache to a text file?
[15:05] <jboii> monitor is now setup as only function on the onitor
[15:05] <CatKiller> jboii: So you can use the laptop trackpad as a mouse
[15:06] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, that fixed everything
[15:06] <CatKiller> jboii: But if you take over with the USB one it won't work
[15:06] <jboii> yes
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: seet!
[15:06] <genii> jboii: If your laptop has one of those FN key combinations which cycles the monitor setups (eg: LCD no external, both, external only) You could try cycling to the setting which would be external only
[15:06] <CatKiller> jboii: That's extremely weird.
[15:06] <jboii> no , i havent found an app that will do anything like that
[15:06] <Areeb> Hi
[15:06] <CatKiller> jboii: So you can see the cursor on screen, but you can't move it with your usb mouse. However if you touch the trackpad it does move
[15:07] <jboii> yes
[15:07] <CatKiller> Does the "click" work?
[15:07] <jboii> yes
[15:07] <CatKiller> if you position your mouse using the trackpad over an icon and click, it does select that icon?
[15:07] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, thanks for the help ... where did you get url to download the package?
[15:07] <KotaroDesign> Anyone knows what this error means in roundcube: "SMTP Error (451): Failed to add recipient"?
[15:07] <jboii> yes
[15:08] <CatKiller> Just very odd. If it works using a livecd
[15:08] <CatKiller> I'd simply reinstall
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: packages.ubuntu.com
[15:08] <CatKiller> I mean if you've already searched all night for a solution
[15:08] <CatKiller> it would be way faster to just reinstall
[15:08] <jboii> hat about this
[15:08] <jboii> can i fix it using a bletooth mouse insted ?
[15:08] <genii> jboii: Do you have a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf which contains lines in it about input devices?
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> _nrdb: np, just watch you're free space in future.
[15:08] <jboii> i am having issues enabling my bluetooth
[15:09] <CatKiller> jboii: Maybe. I don't know what your problem is but obviously the mouse is "seen" by the system as the click works
[15:09] <jboii> how can i easy fix this ?
[15:09] <jboii> yes i have that fie
[15:09] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, very much so.
[15:09] <genii> jboii: Please pastebin that file for inspection
[15:10] <jboii> what about fixing usb insted ?
[15:10] <jboii> i cant seem to get it to work
[15:10] <jboii> wotn enable
[15:10] <CatKiller> won't enable?
[15:11] <jboii> yes , it wont get started
[15:11] <jboii> bluetooth off
[15:11] <_nrdb> hitsujiTMO, now to check all the other VMs
[15:11] <jboii> is there a system cleaning app i can run to fix this ?
[15:11] <CatKiller> jboii: Yes and it is always running
[15:11] <CatKiller> jboii: In a way
[15:12] <jboii> like that will easy solve the problem
[15:12] <CatKiller> Why would anyone make a system cleaning app as opposed to keeping it "clean"
[15:12] <CatKiller> no
[15:12] <monst> anyone know where default dhcp logs are kept?
[15:12] <CatKiller> You have a system that should work. If it doesn't it was broken and Ubuntu doesn't know how/why it's broken
[15:12] <airt> has anyone upgraded to 13.10 ubuntu
[15:12] <dsalfran> hello all, I just installed ubuntu 13.10 on a HP pavilion g6, is always starting with windows 8 by default. I had 12.04 and boot-repair solved the issue but not now. Can someone look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6324237/ ?
[15:12] <CatKiller> My suggestion of reinstalling (provided everything works using a livecd) is by far the easiest and fastest
[15:12] <CatKiller> Seems overkill
[15:12] <CatKiller> but it only takes minutes
[15:13] <CatKiller> maybe an hour
[15:14] <CatKiller> jboii: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/best-way-to-backup-all-settings-list-of-installed-packages-tweaks-etc
[15:15] <testpil0t> just curious... is there some way to boostrap windows from within ubuntu ?
[15:15] <testpil0t> i dont want to fiddle around with some grub-fixing etc..
[15:16] <genii> jboii: Perhaps in the incident which broke the creen the usb port also experienced damage. But there is a remote possibility that your input device is specified in your xorg.conf but tied to the old default screen, etc. But impossible to know this without seeing the xorg.conf file. All else is speculation, etc.
[15:17] <intrader> Anyone, good morning. I noticed that ubuntu 13.10 while asleep -disables networking and continues to run some processes running that cause the laptop to stay more than warm (psensor temp2 91C); opening the lapto cover finds networking disabled. In  contrast, in ubuntu 12.04 closing the laptop cover  put the laptop asleep bring temperature down
[15:17] <lmat> I'm having trouble with Ubuntu 12.04: I'm wanting to turn off the drum startup sound, but can't figure out how.
[15:18]  * BarbaroXXa is afk
[15:18] <lmat> lmat: I see instructions that say "Click system > administration > login window > accessibility > sounds > login screen ready" but I don't see any of that.
[15:18] <lmat> Where do I click "System" ? (I use cairo dock, and I think the usual unity thing is not here)
[15:18] <Raiane> como eu desistalo o ubuntu do pc ?
[15:19] <dsalfran> someone knows how to boot directly to ubuntu 13.10 in a dual boot system?
[15:19] <k1l_> !away > BarbaroXXa
[15:20] <Raiane> ??
[15:20] <minimec> lmat: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24946/how-do-i-disable-the-drum-beat-sound-on-the-login-screen
[15:20] <DJones> !br | Raiane
[15:20] <airt> lmat try  ubuntu tweek it has a place to turn off  logon sound
[15:21] <intrader> Anyone, continuing ... I am closing the lid to see if I can duplicate the behaviour.
[15:24] <Raiane> alguem me ajuda
[15:25] <HTT-Bird> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com quantal Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[15:25] <HTT-Bird> ^^ where'd the signatures for Quantal go?
[15:26] <dsalfran> HTT-Bird: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys
[15:26] <fossxplorer> I have to ask why Ubuntu Precise uses a much newer kernel than latest CentOS?
[15:26] <dsalfran> HTT-Bird: sorry, bad typing
[15:27] <dsalfran> HTT-Bird: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[15:27] <HTT-Bird> fossxplorer: because the two distros update the kernel on different cycles
[15:27] <HTT-Bird> dsalfran: WTF? same error
[15:27] <monst> anyone know what could cause a route to disappear? the machine wasnt rebooted but lost a custom route
[15:28] <HTT-Bird> ran your command, then reran aptitude update
[15:28] <fossxplorer> HTT-Bird, i see. I have to ask this on #centos
[15:28] <HTT-Bird> exact. same. error.
[15:28] <Guest28138> hi all, don't remember is i asked but can i upgrade 12.04 to 14.04( in april) ? or must i do all of the incremental upgrades in between ?
[15:28] <kostkon> Guest28138, you can
[15:28] <Ari-Yang> Guest28138: afaik you should be able to upgrade from LTS to LTS; so yes.
[15:28] <DJones> Guest28138: 14.04 is planned to be a Long term support release, so yes you should be able to got 12.04 to 14.04 without any problem
[15:29] <ceed^> Why is it not possible to control the volume fully with volume buttons or notification area volume control in Ubuntu? You can control it up to "100" which is a bit passed half way up, but to get above that you have to open the sound settings.
[15:29] <dsalfran> HTT-Bird: what does that mean. Same error? Try deleting /var/lib/apt/lists before doing apt-get update
[15:29] <xll11> the installation of the new package is long as hell
[15:29] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: thx, but will not be able to go from x.10 to lts ? correct
[15:30] <Ari-Yang> Guest28138: I don't think so. Like if you're on 12.10 you'd have to jump from it to 13.04 then 13.10
[15:30] <Ari-Yang> but I'm not sure...
[15:30] <Ari-Yang> guys, can one upgrade from 12.10 to 14.04?
[15:30] <cousteau> Ari-Yang, I think you have to do the 3 upgrades
[15:30] <DJones> Ari-Yang: I believe thats the plan,
[15:30] <Pici> Guest28138: You can always go from an LTS to an LTS, and from a prior release to the immediate next one.
[15:31] <HTT-Bird> dsalfran: now aptitude update won't even *try* to pull from quantal's repos
[15:31] <cousteau> maybe it'd be simpler to just reinstall  (assuming separate /home)
[15:31] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: thx, it looks like i will have to do all of the incrementals only because 12.x does not have verry good twinview support compared to 13.04
[15:32] <Ari-Yang> Guest28138: 13.04 is EOL in 3 months. So you might want to use 13.10
[15:32] <Guest28138> is anyone else here using multiple head display
[15:32]  * cousteau is waiting for 14.04 to be released to reinstall ubuntu
[15:32] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: thx
[15:32] <cousteau> and never again install a non-LTS
[15:32] <dsalfran> HTT-Bird: http://askubuntu.com/questions/198371/apt-encounters-errors-with-bad-gpg-keys
[15:32]  * cousteau uses Ubuntu 10.10 at home
[15:33] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: and while i am here i was having an issue with caffeine, it should temperarly disable xscreensaver , but even with "disable screensaver" checked the screensaver kept comming on
[15:33] <adamk> Guest28138: I run two monitors.
[15:33] <HTT-Bird> dsalfran: ok, *weird*.  aptitude was having issues, apt-get is doing what I want though o.o
[15:34] <Ari-Yang> Guest28138: dunno about caffeine :|
[15:34] <dsalfran> HTT-Bird: then all it's ok
[15:34] <Guest28138> adamk: ah, would you agree that 13 has better multihead support then 12
[15:34] <DJones> Ari-Yang: For 12.10 only, because 12.10's EOL is a few months after 13.04 goes EOL, in theory you could be using 12.10 without an upgrade path to 13.04, so when I asked a while back, the reply was that the plan was to have an upgrade path from 12.10 to 14.04 for those people (That was an answer I got some months back, possibly the plan could have changed since then)
[15:34] <m_tadeu> hi...is there a was to install a local package with dependencies on the command line?
[15:34] <reisio> m_tadeu: local?
[15:34] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: caffeine seems to be dead i have tried it on 12.10 and 13.04 and same results
[15:35] <reisio> m_tadeu: as in a .deb file you downloaded?
[15:35] <adamk> Guest28138: Not really.
[15:35] <m_tadeu> reisio: yes
[15:35] <reisio> m_tadeu: dpkg -i
[15:35] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: do you know of a way to disable and reinable xscreensaver, so i don't have to screw with it while watcing a video
[15:35] <Ari-Yang> DJones: ah I see.. I hope that is the case, in case I do want to upgrade from 12.10 to 14.04 I can just jump from it to 14.04
[15:35] <m_tadeu> reisio: that won't install dependencies
[15:36] <Ari-Yang> Guest28138: not really, mess with the system settings screen options/screen saver etc.
[15:36] <Guest28138> adamk: i have noticed that snapping seems to work for me in 13., where it didn't work for me in 12.x other then that, the suppor t is about the s8ame
[15:36] <adamk> Guest28138: That's a function of the window manager, not the multihead support.
[15:37] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: xscreensaver seems to not appear in settings so i am looking for a script that i can run to enable/disable
[15:37] <Ari-Yang> Guest28138: okay, good luck.
[15:38] <wangqizhong> quit
[15:38] <Guest28138> adamk: thx, i wasn't to sure who handled that
[15:38] <Guest28138> Ari-Yang: thx
[15:39] <Guest28138> adamk: i would say that 13 the ui at least looks cleaner then 12
[15:42] <deltra> hola a todos
[15:43] <reisio> deltra: hola
[15:44] <deltra> stoy buscando a arrweb  ?? alguien lo vio ?
[15:44] <compdoc> english
[15:45] <Pici> !es | deltra
[15:53] <deltra> #ubuntu-es
[15:54] <Multiply> How do I get an upstart service out of a confused state? (stop/killed, process XXXX)
[15:54] <Multiply> The process isn't running, but it's still in that state
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Multiply: can you kill -9 it?
[15:55] <intrader> Anyone, continuing experiment about ubuntu 13.10 problem with suspend. It appears that suspend disables wifi and networking just as closing the laptop lid does. Upon wakeup via the ON button, login screen comes up but neworking and wifi are disabled. Forces a reboot as enabling networking does not enable wifi also.
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> intrader: if you unload and reload the driver module, does it start working?
[15:57] <intrader> ActionParsnip, how do I unload and reload the driver?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> intrader: what is the driver module?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> intrader: sudo lshw -C network | grep -i driver      will tell you
[16:00] <intrader> ActionParsnip, thankyou, but I am not seeking to find what driver module. I am waiting to resolve issue with suspend turning wifi and networking off. Enabling networking does not start the wifi
[16:00] <Multiply> ActionParsnip, the process isn't running.
[16:01] <Multiply> Doesn't exist, either. I just want to clear the state of my service
[16:01] <siv> hello. anyone want to take a stab at a hdmi sound issue on dom0 / xen ?
[16:02] <xll11> how to start the gui mode from terminal?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> intrader: if you find it, then unload it and reload it, it can make the device 'wake up' this will solve your issue right?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Multiply: sudo service name status     is it running?
[16:03] <cromag> is it normal for apt-get update to use 100% disk I/O with 1mb/s ?
[16:04] <cromag> i have an apt-get update running for 20 minutes and that is happening
[16:04] <cromag> on an SSD disk
[16:04] <cromag> i have no idea why
[16:04] <hitsujiTMO> cromag: writing a lot of small file can do that
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> cromag: maybe its a bug
[16:04] <Multiply> ActionParsnip, as I wrote, start/killed or stop/killed is the status. It always report the same PID, regardless of how many times I try to start, or stop the service. Starting or stopping hangs, by the way, until I ctrl+c and try again. The PID never changes. And it's not running either.
[16:05] <cromag> hitsujiTMO: that i understand, it's during "reading package list"
[16:05] <intrader> ActionParsnip, first, how do I cut text from Xchat. Second how do I unload/reload driver. Third, all needs to happen in wakeup/suspend/wakeup automatically on
[16:05] <cromag> ActionParsnip: how can i debug maybe ?
[16:05] <cromag> ltrace stuff ?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> intrader: if you tell me the name (I told you how to get the name) I can give you the name
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> intrader: I can give you the command to unload and reload it
[16:05] <Guest28138> i don't know what is wrong with caffeine but how hard can it be to xscreensaver - exit, or xscreensaver --no-splash
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> intrader: you dont seem to want to know the name of the driver, despite the fact that it may in fact resolve your issue
[16:06] <MrSassyPants> Heys. I did an ssh local port forward to my proxy (in a 1gb lan) and speed was ~250kB/s. When I used the proxy directly, speed was higher (7+mB/s, what my isp offers). there was no noticeable cpu usage on ssh / sshd on either side, -C did not make a difference. so why is the ssh tunnel so much slower?
[16:06] <xll11> blah, now I get a blackscreen after login
[16:06] <xll11> :(
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> intrader: your move
[16:08] <EyePulp> yo ho ho
[16:08] <Lingo> hello
[16:09] <intrader> ActionParsnip, the driver is PCI
[16:09] <EyePulp> how long has there been a /var/log/upstart/  directory with actual logs sitting in it?  It seems like a somewhat recent change (and a good one at that)
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> intrader: wait, your PCI bus is slow
[16:09] <EyePulp> and is there a way to get that behavior working on older distros?
[16:10] <intrader> ActionParsnip, what does that have to do with the suspend/awake issue of disabling wifi wnd networking
[16:10] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: because the module is probably whats causing your issue
[16:11] <intrader> ActionParsnip, so how do I unload and reload the driver?
[16:11] <leif_> is there a irc for people into sever stuff on ubuntu
[16:11] <kostkon> leif_, #ubuntu-server?
[16:12] <leif_> ok
[16:12] <intrader> ActionParsnip, sorry about the delay in answering above - but I was looking up how to clip text from Xchat window - could not find how to do it.
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: sudo modprobe -r <module> && sudo modprobe <module>
[16:13] <abradley> I'm having the dickens of a time figuring out how to mount an nfs share in ubudesktop
[16:14] <Dirkos> I installed a VM with ubuntu 10.2 LTS but how can i get the latest PHP version? since 5.3 is still in the repo
[16:15] <loa> 10.2?
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> Dirkos: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:16] <Dirkos> ah sorry
[16:16] <upverter-is-cool> Hi everyone! I recently made the mistake of installing the OSX update called Maverick (not to be confused with Ubuntu 10.10) and it has lead me down a path to where I need to wipe my ubuntu installation.
[16:16] <Dirkos> 12.04 LTS
[16:16] <intrader> ActionParsnip, I get for first command: 'FATAL: Module PCI not found.'
[16:16] <Dirkos> was confused with something else
[16:16] <upverter-is-cool> That being said, I want to know if Ubuntu 13.04 is still the recommended version for installing on a 13" Macbook Pro Retina (10,2)
[16:16] <Dirkos> like for debian i could always use the dotdeb repo but is there anything for ubuntu?
[16:17] <upverter-is-cool> Or should I install 13.10 instead?
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> Dirkos: is there a specific reason why you need a later version than 5.3?
[16:17] <tim167> hello, I have a computer here, which I have to use for a project, but it has an _ancient_ ubuntu 8 on it, what's the best way to upgrade it? (update-manager) proposes upgrade to ubuntu 10, but that seems like its not really much better...)
[16:17] <Dirkos> 5.3 is end of life already hitsujiTMO and i need some stuff available in 5.4 anyhow
[16:17] <Dirkos> so i'd rather upgrade to 5.5.
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> intrader: run:  sudo lshw -C network    wait, then read
[16:18] <upverter-is-cool> @tim167 start with a usb or CD and upgrade all the way to 13.10
[16:18] <gordonjcp> tim167: flatten and reinstall
[16:18] <andry> test
[16:18] <upverter-is-cool> @tim167 it is not advised to upgrade over more than 4 updates
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> Dirkos: you'll have to find a PPA with the later version then. just be careful as there's a few poor PPAs around with bad installs.
[16:18] <gordonjcp> tim167: ensure that your computer has either 64-bit or PAE support ;-)
[16:19] <Dirkos> hitsujiTMO: thats why im asking
[16:19] <intrader> ActionParsnip, my bad, the driver is ath5k. Note the the grep does not find the driver - but I could tell from the console output
[16:19] <tim167> upverter-is-cool: ok, thanks for your advice, I guess it would be best to start with a clean install on a new disk... :)
[16:19] <cromag> ActionParsnip: do you have an idea on how i can debug the apt-get update / iowait ?
[16:19] <gordonjcp> tim167: new disk is a good idea
[16:19] <whoever> what is the quickest way to dev a tray app ? gtk ? or another
[16:19] <whoever> i know stupid question
[16:19] <gordonjcp> tim167: every so often I just pull the drive and do a fresh install
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> Dirkos: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5 is one of the more popular ones, but i have not tried it myself
[16:20] <gordonjcp> whoever: depends what desktop you're developing for
[16:20] <tim167> gordonjcp: it's actually ubuntustudio i'm running, and the audio drivers are all tweaked just right, so I've never been inclined to 'change a winning team'...
[16:20] <andry> test
[16:20] <andry> :P
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> Dirkos: please, note that you may also be forced to update apache2.2 to apache2.4
[16:21] <whoever> gordonjcp: a tray icon that will maintain 2 states and run a different command on click state
[16:21] <intrader> ActionParsnip, the modprobe pair disables/enables neworking and wifi
[16:22] <intrader> ActionParsnip, now I need to have it happen on suspend/resume
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> Dirkos: also not that 5.3 is not end of life ...
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> Dirkos: actually, sorry it is EOL, my bad
[16:24] <whoever> gordonjcp: so what would be the best option
[16:25] <whoever> gordonjcp: or does gnome already contain a configurable tray icon , and i just have to add it to my tray
[16:26] <EyePulp> so I *think* i have an upstart managed service running, but I can't seem to kill it, and there's no longer a /etc/init/ file for it.  How do I kill it, as it just seems to restart under a new PID each time I try?
[16:27] <andry> EyePulp, ehm
[16:27] <andry> expect fork needs to be added then
[16:27] <intrader> ActionParsnip, now I need to have it happen on suspend/resume
[16:27] <andry> "expect fork" as new line under description ie
[16:27] <nikhil_> anyone here know how to set focus to follow mouse using Linux Mint cinnamon?
[16:28] <genii> !mintsupport | nikhil_
[16:28] <andry> funny i had the exact same problem 10 minutes ago :D
[16:28] <EyePulp> andry: there's no upstart script for the service - I'm trying to kill it off completely.
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: http://askubuntu.com/questions/92218/how-to-execute-a-command-after-resume-from-suspend
[16:28] <EyePulp> just trying to untangle which process it controlling it =\
[16:28] <andry> oh okay sorry, misread it ..
[16:28] <andry> which process?
[16:28] <genii> EyePulp: Maybe it still has old sysvinit entry in /etc/init.d/
[16:29] <andry> hm sysvinit wouldnt restart it i think
[16:29] <EyePulp> genii: Nope - it was a service I wrote some time ago under /etc/init
[16:29] <andry> or try "pstree" to see where it spawns from
[16:29] <EyePulp> ooh - pstree
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> intrader: sudo modprobe -r ath5k; sleep 5; sudo modprobe ath5k      will unload it and reload it, dos it help?
[16:29] <EyePulp> lemme look up the syntax
[16:29]  * whoever just realized he can't code anything while system is updatiing qt is not installed 
[16:29]  * whoever wants to cry 
[16:31] <gordonjcp> whoever: I don't know, I guess there must be some documentation on writing tray apps for Unity somewhere on the Ubuntu wiki
[16:32] <intrader> ActionParsnip, hang on, I am have not red the article
[16:32] <hitsujiTMO> whoever: gordonjcp: docs: https://unity.ubuntu.com/projects/appindicators/
[16:32] <EyePulp> andry: So I found the process, which eventually links back to init  Now how do I kill it?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> EyePulp: everything links back to init. It is the mother of all processed and is always PID 1
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> or is it 0
[16:33] <andry> sudo killall processname or sudo kill $(pidof processname)
[16:33] <andry> but dont kill init
[16:33] <andry> :D
[16:34] <BAMbanda> If I'm upgrading ubuntu from my terminal, is it dangerous to do other things?
[16:34] <BAMbanda> such as being in irc rightnow?
[16:34] <intrader> ActionParsnip, Is this not a bug in 13.10?
[16:34] <SPEEDWAVE> my dta 2 hero are invisible anyone here knows how to fix it please...
[16:35] <SPEEDWAVE> i mean dota 2
[16:35] <BAMbanda> If I'm upgrading ubuntu from my terminal, is it dangerous to do other things?
[16:36] <reisio> BAMbanda: other things not to do with package management, nope
[16:36] <intrader> ActionParsnip, how do I stop Xchat (not let is scroll)
[16:37] <BAMbanda> reisio, thanks!
[16:38] <vitor_in> Hi, I'm having problems with ubuntu 12.04 and xrdp.
[16:39] <vitor_in> anyone could help?
[16:41] <EyePulp> argh - my kill and killall work, but a new process pops up immediately.  It's a resilient sucker
[16:41] <reisio> EyePulp: while(true); do kill foo; done
[16:41] <EyePulp> any way to figure out what upstart is currently managing in a list?
[16:41] <Guest78798> is there a command that will show me what driver is in use for a usb device?
[16:42] <gpled> can someone work with me to solve a seemingly simple dns/dhcp question?
[16:43] <minimec> Guest78798: What if you plugged the device and read out 'dmesg' in a terminal. The las 5-10 lines. There you see what driver is called.
[16:43] <dv-_> gpled: don't ask to ask, just state your problem, and if anyone looking knows, they'll tell you
[16:44] <intrader> ActionParsnip, should this issue not be reported as a bug?
[16:45] <gpled> /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases shows 208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220,68.116.46.115
[16:45] <gpled> my system keeps using 68.116.46.115
[16:46] <gpled> why is it not using 208.67.222.222,208 or 208.67.220.220 ?
[16:47] <Rexter> minimec I get no info all errors
[16:49] <Rexter> minimec; maybe I'm not going about this the best way. I need to find out what driver package a usb wireless adapter is using.
[16:50] <intrader> ActionParsnip, there is a bug reporte with workaround: #1234469: Network does not come up after resuming from suspend.
[16:51] <minimec> Rexter: Ok. Do you know how paste.ubuntu.com works? paste the output of 'dmesg' you got on that side and give me the link
[16:54] <Rexter> minimec; http://pastebin.com/gTqbU0Kq
[16:54] <traubisoda> hi there
[16:55] <traubisoda> if I have a webserver, and I purchased a domain which point to this server, do I have to adjust anything on my server regarding the domain name?
[16:55] <minimec> Rexter: Ok. This is a wifi module right. Now do the same with 'lsusb' and 'iwconfig'. Paste the result on paste.ubuntu.com again.
[16:56] <traubisoda> the server was used before based on IP address
[16:57] <hitsujiTMO> gpled: you are displaying leases for 2 different networks. you are on the 68.116.46.0 network would be why you have that ip
[16:59] <bean> traubisoda: depends on your apache config.
[16:59] <gpled> option domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220,68.116.46.115;
[16:59] <gpled> this is for name server.  getting the correct and working ip address.  just using the wrong dns server
[17:00] <operatorplik> cara instal cheat engine gimana gan...:D
[17:00] <traubisoda> bean: it's default, should I place the domain in the config file?
[17:01] <bean> traubisoda: I'd try it out and see if it works. I usually throw a "ServerName mydnsname.com" then "ServerAlias www.mydnsname.com" in the virtualhost just to make thigns happy
[17:02] <traubisoda> bean: virtualhosts had been already made
[17:03] <Rexter> minimec; http://pasebin.com/h0Sj46wz
[17:03] <benzrf> hi, I need a new  bootable partition quickly
[17:03] <benzrf> if I put  the installer disk iso into it, will I be able to boot that?
[17:04] <Rexter> minimec; oops sorry http://pastebin.com/h0Sj46wz
[17:05] <intrader> ActionParsnip, sorry, I had to reboot - is the suspend/resume bug resolved?
[17:06] <traubisoda> my real problem is, that php mail() runs very slow(aprox. 1 minute), so I 'tcpdump'-ed a mail sending issue, and the first delay was a DNS lookup for localhost.localdomain
[17:07] <minimec> Rexter: It's ok. I got it. So the wireless seems ok. On the other hand that "Philips (or NXP) Consumer Infrared Transceiver" is probably not so easy to configure... but seems possible. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1765178
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> gpled: how do you know it is using the last dns ?
[17:08] <kilit> asd
[17:09] <Rexter> minimec; It's working fine on Ubuntu 12.04, I know as soon as say this I'll be pointed to #linuxmint-help, but they were pointing me to here.
[17:09] <Rexter> minimec, I'm trying to find out what driver this device is using on ubuntu 12.04
[17:09] <hitsujiTMO> gpled: is your dns working at all?
[17:09] <n008> I get permission error when ei echo http://twitter.com 127.0.0.1 >> /etc/hosts
[17:10] <everald> Hi. How do I rebuild a ubuntu kernel with identical config and all? I'll just patch a file.
[17:10] <n008> how do I sudo ^
[17:10] <gpled> dns is working, it is just using the 3rd entry instead of the fist two
[17:10] <n008> sudo echo doen't work
[17:10] <Pici> n008: echo http://twitter.com 127.0.0.1 | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts
[17:10] <n008> Pici: what does tee do?
[17:11] <Rexter> minimec, because it worked with no fuss here, but doesn't work at all on Linux Mint 13, which is based on, and compatible with Ubuntu 12.04. I figure if it's just midding a package that I couls install in Linux Mint, if i can find out what Ubuntu is using.
[17:11] <Rexter> minimec, follow?
[17:11] <Pici> n008: it takes things from stdin and puts them into the file.  sudo will not pass IO redirection operators.
[17:11] <minimec> Rexter: I see ;)
[17:11] <n008> Pici: thanks
[17:11] <Rexter> minimec, so the question remains, what driver is this device using?
[17:11] <hitsujiTMO> n008: why do you want to add such an entry into /etc/hosts?   thats an invalid hosts entry
[17:11] <n008> Pici: -a means append ?
[17:12] <Pici> n008: yep
[17:12] <n008> hitsujiTMO: it was done wrong
[17:12] <n008> was meeant to be the other way roung
[17:12] <n008> round
[17:12] <n008> to block twitter
[17:13] <minimec> Rexter: Is lirc installed?
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> gpled: can you pastebin the output of: dig @68.116.46.115 google.ie
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> n008: thats still wrong and not going to do what you want
[17:15] <hitsujiTMO> n008: you don't specify the protocol for host file ... and that will only block twitter.com not www.twitter.com
[17:15] <minimec> Rexter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1765178
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[17:17] <FloodBot1> conejita_play_bo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:17] <Meistarin> Anyone able to help me with getting vnc on ubuntu server x64 12.04 _
[17:17] <Rexter> minimec, it's the RT5370 that I'm asking about. This device it working.
[17:19] <minimec> Rexter: https://www.google.com/search?q=RT5370+driver+ubuntu+130.10&ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&channel=fe&client=browser-ubuntu&hl=en#channel=fe&hl=en&q=RT5370+driver+ubuntu
[17:20] <Rexter> minimec, actually. I think I found my solution. I need to add a kernel module to /etc/modules, I'm not sure how to do it, but it's going to be a bit more of a Linux Mint question.
[17:20] <minimec> Rexter: Interresting thing is, that iwconfig sees the device... It's just not
[17:20] <n008> hitsujiTMO: echo 127.0.0.1 twitter.com | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts
[17:20] <n008> that works
[17:20] <Meistarin> Anyone able to help me with getting vnc on ubuntu server x64 12.04 _
[17:21] <minimec> Rexter: sudo nano /etc/modules ; add the driver ; <ctrl>X yes.
[17:21] <hitsujiTMO> n008: more precisely: echo 127.0.0.1 twitter.com www.twitter.com | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts
[17:22] <yeyeman> how do I make quoted text in thunderbird?
[17:23] <shroomduke> funny, I turn off the touchpad but it always comes back on after restart
[17:23] <Rexter> minimec; I did the commands in the terminal, and the device worked. Do I just add the command to the modules?
[17:24] <Rexter> minimec; 'As explained in the ubuntuforums (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1902715) the rt2870sta driver is no longer part of the kernel. So the rt2800usb has to be used. This is done via
[17:24] <Rexter> echo 'install rt2800usb modprobe --ignore-install rt2800usb ; /bin/echo "148f 5370" > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/rt2800usb/new_id' | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rt2800usb.conf
[17:24] <Rexter> sudo modprobe -v rt2800usb
[17:24] <Rexter> To get the rt2800usb loaded at every startup rt2800usb hast do be added to /etc/modules
[17:24] <Rexter> From then on it works fine."
[17:24] <FloodBot1> Rexter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:25] <intrader> Anyone, 13.10 transition between window opening are slow as molasses - for example open a new tab on a directory
[17:26] <Rexter> minimec, so do i just add "echo 'install rt2800usb modprobe --ignore-install rt2800usb ; /bin/echo "148f 5370" > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/rt2800usb/new_id' | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rt2800usb.conf" to /etc/modules?
[17:26] <minimec> Rexter: I you have that rt2800usb.conf in /etc/modprobe.d , you can just add the DRIVER to /etc/modules
[17:26] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: what graphics chipset are you using?
[17:26] <Rexter> minimec, what's the syntax?
[17:26] <minimec> Rexter: You execute that command. That will create a file.
[17:27] <minimec> Rexter: Then you add the driver you want to load to /etc/modules
[17:27] <minimec> Rexter: Just add the name of the driver.
[17:28] <n008> hitsujiTMO: cool thanks
[17:29] <Rexter> minimec; http://pastebin.com/JfY6ujSK
[17:29] <SPEEDWAVE> Guys check my video driver is this a latest driver in ubuntu or i need to update this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6325176/
[17:29] <Rexter> minimec; so safe it like that?
[17:29] <DavidBrooke> I have a video problem...kernel: [27023.619843] [drm] capturing error event; look for more information in /sys/kernel/debug/dri/0/i915_error_state.....wasn't sure if this was the correct forum?
[17:29] <minimec> Rexter: Exactly.
[17:30] <Rexter> minimec; ok, awesome, than you. I'm going down for reboot to try it out.
[17:31] <exalt> my unity top bar is empty, no global menu or sys tray, any ideas on howto fix ?
[17:36] <Gallomimia> DavidBrooke: you should probably mention more about what release you're running
[17:38] <erbal1st> how can i see what .so files a process has loaded?
[17:40] <exalt> erbal1st: try lsof -p <pid>
[17:41] <erbal1st> thanks exalt
[17:45] <Laurenceb> hi
[17:46] <daftykins> Laurenceb: hi
[17:46] <Laurenceb> is there a texlive-latex-extra on launchpad?
[17:49] <OerHeks> Laurenceb, here is > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+package/texlive-latex-extra >>  http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/texlive-latex-extra
[17:50] <ngochai> Hi guys, I'm trying to find a list of allow (or a list of invalid) characters for password, can someone point me a link? I've been googling for about 3 hours
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> ngochai: password for what exactly?
[17:53] <ngochai> hitsujiTMO, system user password
[17:54] <OerHeks> all typable characters can be used AFAIK > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords#Strong_Passwords
[17:54] <beliveyourdream> how can i downgrade apache from 2.4 to 2.2 on ubuntu 13.10 ?
[17:54] <ikonia> beliveyourdream: there isn't a 2.2 package
[17:55] <beliveyourdream> damn
[17:55] <mustmodify> is there something like tail for a file like /proc/loadavg that doesn't add more lines, just changes?
[17:55] <mustmodify> I want to just watch it.
[17:55] <ngochai> OerHeks, hitsujiTMO, I'm wringing a document for our embedded ubuntu system, I need to know the allowed/ invalid character for password
[17:55] <evilytwisted> Hi, is there a wget command or curl command which i could download the contents of a webpage and its entirety to my computer for a cached copy?
[17:56] <ngochai> wrting
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> ngochai: afaik, technically any characters are alllowed ... issues arise with special chars tho, best to keep with standard ascii chars
[17:56] <GimmiLFactorY> I need more computer friends. I ubuntu cloud people! :D
[17:57] <e_t_> mustmodify: watch cat /proc/loadavg
[17:57] <e_t_> evilytwisted: try the -m option to wget.
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> ngochai: by special chars, ofc i do mean unicode chars
[17:58] <evilytwisted> So like wget -m google.com?
[17:58] <ngochai> hitsujiTMO, I wonder why noone ever asks about this, google only show a few related questions
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> ngochai: i think it's one of the taken for granted questions
[17:59] <OerHeks> ngochai, it is worth a question on askubuntu.com
[17:59] <e_t_> evilytwisted: it will give you a static HTML copy of the site in question. For more info, try 'man wget'
[18:00] <evilytwisted> statical?
[18:00] <evilytwisted> static.. that means it wont change right
[18:00] <evilytwisted> just what i downloaded
[18:00] <excognac> hi all. just a little theoretical question why LTS is LTS when it doesnáthave support AT ALL for newer processors
[18:01] <ikonia> excognac: it does
[18:01] <ikonia> excognac: that's why there are new updates for it during it's support period
[18:01] <e_t_> evilytwisted: yes, it also means that dynamic scripts, like PHP won't by dynamic anymore.
[18:01] <exalt_> grrr unity drives me crazy, somthing killed my systray and global menu... i cnt fking firuge it out, its bothering me for two days now
[18:02] <evilytwisted> I never set a saved path  where does it save to automatically?
[18:02] <evilytwisted> ah nevermind e_t_  i found it :D
[18:02] <exalt_> ikonia: i got told you are the ubuntu wizzard that will be able to fix my problem
[18:03] <excognac> ikonia: if zou remember me from the morning, it challanges me hard just install drivers for graphics, and it is really annoying. I failed to install the intel ones so i added this https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa. now the machine doesn't even boot.
[18:05] <ikonia> exalt_: not sure who told you that, but if you ask the channel, many people can try to help
[18:05] <excognac> ikonia: or anyone> how do i remove a ppa with a live-cd?
[18:05] <exalt_> ikonia: i already did
[18:06] <ikonia> excognac: I do remember this morning, but I also remember saying adding extenral software was a bad bad idea
[18:06] <excognac> ikonia: well, i failed with native intel drivers, my fault. end of story?
[18:07] <exalt_> ikonia: to be more correct i already asked it 6 times the past two days, both in the dutch and english channel and no one seems to know the answer to my problem
[18:07] <ikonia> excognac: my initial thought is that your card is not being detected correctly by xorg, and therefore not using the existin intel xorg module
[18:07] <movedx> Is anyone running a Radeon HD 7000 series (specifically a 7850) on 13.10?
[18:09] <ikonia> excognac: you should normally get "some" output from intel cards from the pre-installed xorg modules with ubuntu, then a bit of tweaking can be requried for some models, however from where you are now it's a bit of a pain to undo
[18:09] <excognac> ikonia: ok, i'll reinstall it then. start the whole thing again.
[18:11] <excognac> ikonia: what shall i do right after> install lightdm, as without it i ain't have a graphical interface at all.
[18:11] <ikonia> excognac: what do you mean ? the ubuntu install comes with a gui
[18:11] <Rarrikins> Is there a way to upgrade directly from 12.10 to 13.10?
[18:11] <movedx> Or if someone could give me an idea of Radeon driver support in Linux/Ubuntu - is it decent these days?
[18:11] <ikonia> excognac: why are you installing things for a gui when it comes with a gui
[18:12] <excognac> ikonia: mine didn't work, only until login screen. then i had a messy thing with stripes.
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> Rarrikins: no, you must upgrade to 12.04 first
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> Rarrikins: 13.04 even
[18:12] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so you need to work with that, installing different desktops isn't the way to fix that
[18:13] <Rarrikins> hitsujiTMO: OK, thanks.
[18:13] <excognac> ikonia: fine, i'm ready to do it, not only for myself but for further wisdom for the community. can we talk again tomorrow please? if not please direct me to someone who would be as nice and keen to help as you and cer
[18:14] <ikonia> excognac: I'm normally around, but there are others in the channel who will and can help, just keep in mind, don't rush in - fix what's there only change software if that is the true solution
[18:15] <excognac> ikonia: great.thank you very much again. cya tomorrow, i have to leave the office now>(
[18:24] <maxflax> Which is the latest kernel version running on 13.10?
[18:24] <auronandace> !info linux-generic | maxflax
[18:25] <jaug0rd0r> Hi guys, kindly help me.
[18:25] <jaug0rd0r> Everything works fine on my computer expect the terminal....
[18:25] <maxflax> auronandace, Strange that uname -r shows 3.11.0-8-generic on my machine then
[18:25] <bjensen82> I have a HP DL120 server with ubuntu 12.04lts. It seams that whenever I do a shutdown now or reboot -P it doesnt change runlevel instead its like it does a cold reboot..am I doing something wrong ?
[18:26] <jaug0rd0r> I have tried installing all kinds of terminal but none would load.
[18:26] <jaug0rd0r> I can't do anything with the terminal
[18:26] <jaug0rd0r> and I am now thinking of re-installing Ubuntu..
[18:26] <jaug0rd0r> I changed desktop environment, but no luck...
[18:27] <garcianc> jaug0rd0r, can you switch by using Ctl+Alt+F2?
[18:28] <maxflax> So 3.11.0-8-generic is not the latest?
[18:30] <OerHeks> maxflax, looks like it is not, does update show no new kernel?
[18:30] <jaug0rd0r> Sorry, my computer rebooted.
[18:31] <jaug0rd0r> Anytime I press clrt-f2, the screen goes to the terminal and I am asked to enter the username and pwd.
[18:32] <garcianc> are you able to log in?
[18:32] <jaug0rd0r> garcianc, no
[18:32] <jaug0rd0r> it always come back to the login...
[18:32] <wagonboi> Is PAM_unix separate from SSH, SSHD?
[18:32] <krixkrax> why does ubuntu install apache 2.2 instead of 2.4 when I run apt-get install apache2 ?
[18:32] <maxflax> OerHeks, nope, nothing
[18:32] <sina> hi there
[18:32] <garcianc> jaug0rd0r, that sounds like a permission problem
[18:33] <sina> i have a question
[18:33] <jaug0rd0r> okay.
[18:33] <OerHeks> krixkrax, on what ubuntu version ?
[18:33] <krixkrax> 12.04
[18:33] <garcianc> do you have any other users you can log in as?
[18:33] <jaug0rd0r> Everything works fine whenever I use a different account..
[18:34] <garcianc> then it definitely sounds like permissions
[18:34] <jaug0rd0r> What do I need to make changes to...
[18:34] <jaug0rd0r> ?
[18:35] <OerHeks> krixkrax, apache 2.2 is part of the LTS, enable backports to obtain 2.4.* ?
[18:36] <techlord> Can anyone help with a HDMI audio out put not working. I have installed pulse audio and still not shifting to audio out put.
[18:37] <jaug0rd0r> garcianc, do you know what I need to change its permission?
[18:37] <sina> i have an old pc. i want to know ubuntu is 13.10 work correctly on my pc?
[18:37] <jaug0rd0r> The terminal flicks when I use yakuake..
[18:37] <auronandace> sina: only way to know is to try
[18:38] <sina> tnx
[18:38] <jaug0rd0r> ANd for other terminal app, the app only blinks i.e. comes up for a millisecond and it goes off.
[18:38] <jaug0rd0r> Kindly advice...
[18:40] <krixkrax> OerHeks thanks for the info
[18:40] <garcianc> jaug0rd0r, let me check
[18:42] <intrader> Anyone, I am unable to execute a bash file - what I get is a 'run with Emacs'
[18:45] <jaug0rd0r> garcianc, thanks.
[18:46] <intrader> Anyone, I am unable to execute a bash file from navigator -  what I get is a 'open with Emacs'
[18:47] <garcianc> jaug0rd0r, I am not really sure about this one. You could try resetting the user.  If you have anything important in the home directory, move it somewhere else. Then sudo userdel <username>. Then sudo useradd <username>
[18:48] <_root_> hello guys
[18:48] <jaug0rd0r> garcianc, that's was what I wanted to do.
[18:48] <jexmex_> I have been having a hell of a time getting my wireless working, finally got it working with ndiswrapper, but it will not connect to my wpa2 protected network
[18:48] <_root_> I want to install freenx on 13.10;;; i did sudo apt-add-repository ppa:freenx-team
[18:48] <jexmex_> been googling for hours trying to figure out how to fix it
[18:48] <_root_> but i am  getting error
[18:49] <hispeed76> sda and sdb are internal disks, sdc/sdd/sde/sdf are /dev/md0 just attached an external terabyte drive and it isn't showing up at /dev/sdg, how can i find the new drive??
[18:50] <Richhh> tried again to install (l)ubuntu on a new disc burned on the slowest speed, once again the memory check made the pc reboot during the first run, completed with no errors on the second run, once again the install hangs, last time with I/O errors, this time seems to be hung at '* Stopping Send an event to indicate plymouth is up [ OK ]'
[18:51] <Richhh> from a new disc*
[18:51] <hispeed76> doh, doesn't like the new hub..
[18:52] <Richhh> there were a couple of [ fail ]s like reload cups avahi daemon, or something similar
[18:53] <intrader> Anyone, pretty basic, I can't run a bash file from navigator - navigator offers me 'open with GNU Emacs' instead
[18:53] <estudiante> hola
[18:53] <reisio> shalom
[18:54] <estudiante> eee
[18:54] <reisio> intrader: navigator?
[18:54] <estudiante> nop
[18:54] <estudiante> puta
[18:55] <_6a68> hey all - i just installed an ubuntu 12.10 VM, it was working, then I must have hit some magic key combination, because now all I see is the desktop background and no menu bar
[18:55] <_6a68> what've i done?
[18:55] <deav> Has anyone had any experience with the Lenovo Twist and Ubuntu? I am getting terrible battery life <2 hours compared to Windows 8 4> hours
[18:55] <_6a68> I can right-click and create a new folder, so the VM is responsive. i just am kinda baffled by the UI
[18:56] <_6a68> this is 12.10 desktop, fresh install, on vmware
[18:56] <compdoc> _6a68, sometimes display drivers do that, but only when I install the propritory drivers
[18:57] <_6a68> compdoc: hmm, it was actually ok right at first, i saw the menu bar, dropped into terminal, and installed some compiler-related packages
[18:57] <_6a68> compdoc: i guess it's not some quirk of the new window manager, then? time to reinstall from the iso?
[18:59] <compdoc> _6a68, wouldnt think so. I run 12.04 and 13.10 in VMs
[18:59] <Richhh> any ideas?
[18:59] <compdoc> _6a68, guess youve rebooted?
[19:00] <Namtaru> hi
[19:00] <Richhh> i cant afford to upgrade, and i know its not safe to use xp online, would like to get ubuntu on there
[19:00] <_6a68> compdoc: haha, yes. how'd you know?
[19:00] <_6a68> compdoc: i tried to give the VM more cores and RAM, it crashed, I reverted, here we are. that's the full story :-\
[19:01] <compdoc> _6a68, one core is enough, but two is best unless you need more. how much ram?
[19:01] <_6a68> i bumped it from 1 gig to 4
[19:02] <_6a68> it doesn't immediately crash now (i turned cores from 1 to 4 and back to 1)
[19:02] <compdoc> 1 to 2 gigs is plenty
[19:02] <_6a68> compdoc: haha, not for me. i'm building firefox-related stuff
[19:02] <compdoc> what video type you using in the VM?
[19:02] <_6a68> compdoc: i'm not sure, whatever the default is. i can check in the settings panel
[19:02] <_6a68> compdoc: thanks for your help, btw. it's really appreciated
[19:03] <compdoc> see what video card is emulated
[19:03] <compdoc> what nic emulation you use?
[19:04] <_6a68> compdoc: i'm not sure, i'm trying to find the info in preferences
[19:06] <Richhh> seems i may have forgot to adjust the windows partition size
[19:07] <_6a68> compdoc: i've tried looking in the settings menu but i'm not seeing any display details. do you have any clues on where that info might be?
[19:07] <compdoc> _6a68, I use KVM. what are you using?
[19:08] <_6a68> compdoc: i'm sorry, i don't quite understand what you're asking
[19:08] <compdoc> oh, vmware
[19:08] <_6a68> compdoc: yes
[19:08] <compdoc> sorry, dont know vmware
[19:08] <intrader> Anyone, pretty basic, I can't run a bash file from navigator - navigator offers me 'open with GNU Emacs' instead
[19:09] <reisio> intrader: what distinguishes it as a bash file?
[19:09] <_6a68> compdoc: that's ok, i'll try to adjust the display settings if i can find them. thanks for the tip!
[19:09] <intrader> reisio, the hash first line
[19:10] <reisio> intrader: it's possible your file manager is hoping for a filename extension to make it apparent what to open it with
[19:10] <reisio> intrader: but you should be able to hit 'properties' or 'open with' regardless
[19:10] <crow1170> @intrader I'd guess you need to turn on the executable bit; right click>properties>pernmissions>allow executing
[19:11] <deav>  /join #ubuntu-uk
[19:12] <intrader> reisio, crow1170  I have set in the property page executable and it is a+x in chmod
[19:13] <ielo> hey, i just ran the update but half way through it crashed, it had been like this for half a day so i turned my computer off from the mains (wouldnt shut down) and now i cant go to menu, or shutdown and a bunch of other functionalities are messed up
[19:13] <ielo> how can i fix this, is there any way to like run a corrective update?
[19:13] <crow1170> @intrader Try removing the first line of the file- it tells your box which terminal to use. Without the line your box will try a default.
[19:13] <xll11> Everytime I run my ubuntu and log in - I miss all my toolbars :(
[19:13] <xll11> I need to run ccsm and enable the unity plughins
[19:14] <crow1170> @intrader Something like !#/bin/bash
[19:14] <intrader> crow1170, it wants to open with gedit
[19:14] <intrader> crow1170, it has the hash line
[19:15] <crow1170> @intrader open with gedit, remove the hashline, ensure that executable bit is high, and try again.
[19:15] <intrader> crow1170, I have tried, it still wants to open with gedit
[19:16] <crow1170> @intrader alternativelt, you could open up a terminal, navigate to the script, and type './nameOfScript.sh'
[19:16] <bjensen82> I have a HP DL120 server with ubuntu 12.04lts. It seams that whenever I do a shutdown now or reboot -P it doesnt change runlevel instead its like it does a cold reboot..is this expected behavior?
[19:18] <intrader> crow1170, reisio I am able to execute it from the terminal, however I want to use the navigator
[19:19] <reisio> what is a navigator?
[19:19] <reisio> you mean the "dash"?
[19:20] <CatKiller> he means the file browser probably
[19:20] <ielo> help please :( my computer is so messed up, i crashed half way through update and rebooted from mains, now im missing functionalities
[19:20] <crow1170> @intrader Sorry man, I've got nothing for you
[19:20] <ielo> should i run an update via terminal, i cant access some programs wont run
[19:21] <intrader> cromag, reisio thanks anyway - I can't find anything for such a basic thing
[19:22] <_root_> pphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6325791/ any idea how to fix that line 2-6
[19:22] <bgardner> ielo: What update were you running?
[19:23] <ielo> bgardner: saucy salamander
[19:24] <bgardner> ielo: Coming from Raring?
[19:24] <ielo> bgardner:  whichever was directly before it, i always update
[19:24] <SuperNoeMan> hey I have a live cd vm
[19:24] <SuperNoeMan> that only has network access
[19:25] <SuperNoeMan> how can I get files that come with it off?
[19:25] <garcianc> intrader, sorry to barge in to your conversation but have you checked the Preferences in your file manager?  Depending on which one you are using, there might be a setting for enabling the execution of text files.
[19:25] <SuperNoeMan> it's just booting off of an iso in a vm.
[19:25] <ielo> bgardner: for example i cannot shutdown/restaart but can logout, icons in my taskbar show incorrectly like "network manager not running", applications menu doesnt drop down
[19:27] <intrader> garcianc, thanks, but the 'file manager' in ubuntu is navigator - it does not have the option
[19:28] <garcianc> mine does
[19:28] <bgardner> ielo: Have you tried shutdown using terminal commands?  Just want to get a handle on how much is damaged.
[19:29] <ielo> bgardner: no, i think it would probably work judging by what things are working via terminal, im currently "sudo apt-get update" not sure if that updates the apt list tho instead of the distro
[19:29] <tgm4883> the file manager in ubuntu is navigator? I thought it was nautilus? (or am I thinking of something else)
[19:30] <bgardner> ielo: Show us what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list (paste.ubuntu.com)
[19:30] <XMLnewbi_> It completly infuriates me that this does not have an SD card. (that i can tell?) http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[19:30] <trism> tgm4883: it is nautilus
[19:31] <intrader> garcianc, thanks, I missed the option - it is under behavior tab - it works. You are a genius
[19:31] <tgm4883> trism, that is what I thought, I'm just confused by intrader but I didn't read all the backlog
[19:31] <garcianc> glad it worked
[19:31] <reisio> XMLnewbi_: it doesn't have anything, it doesn't exist
[19:31] <tgm4883> XMLnewbi_, does it matter? It's not being made
[19:32] <ielo> bgardner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6325845/
[19:32] <CatKiller> XMLnewbi_: The goal was a bit high. And the end result predictible
[19:32] <CatKiller> Not wanting to start a flame war but heh...
[19:32] <intrader> tgm4883, thanks, there is an option in the navigator in the behavior tab as per garcianc
[19:32] <XMLnewbi_> didnt even notice that, why is ubuntu blasting it all over there site then. lol
[19:33] <dsalfran> Hi I'm trying to get dual boot properly working, can some look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6325807/ ?
[19:33] <tgm4883> intrader, right, but you keep calling it navigator, so I'm not sure if you are talking about another program, or if you mean nautilus
[19:33] <bgardner> ielo: Not the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ folder, but rather the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:33] <ielo> ahh sory
[19:33] <everald> Is there a way to turn off, or at least cache for a certain duration, the authentication for root actions?
[19:33] <bgardner> CatKiller: True dat
[19:33] <tgm4883> XMLnewbi_, where?
[19:33] <XMLnewbi_> http://www.ubuntu.com/phone
[19:33] <everald> At least in software centre (as I find it too much that it asks again for each and every install)?
[19:34] <dsalfran> I ran boot-repair but still I'm getting windows instead of Ubuntu 13.10
[19:34] <xll11> http://hackaday.com/2010/11/03/how-to-program-pics-using-linux/
[19:34] <CatKiller> XMLnewbi_: On the page they suggest that it was "the tech talk of the month" for a while
[19:34] <CatKiller> they say thanks for believing in it
[19:34] <xll11> for some reason I can't 'sudo apt-get install picp'
[19:34] <xll11> ?:{
[19:34] <CatKiller> but they don't mean it was successful
[19:34] <maxflax> How do I force ubuntu to use latest kernel in repository - running 3.11.0-8 but I can see 3.11.0-13 lying around on my drive
[19:35] <ielo> bgardner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6325857/
[19:35] <tgm4883> XMLnewbi_, yea, I don't see anything about them blasting it on there. There is one story about it. The rest is about Ubuntu phone
[19:35] <XMLnewbi_> Our Indiegogo campaign made the Ubuntu Edge the talk of the tech industry. It smashed crowdfunding records from day one and attracted more than 25,000 backers, from enthusiastic individuals to companies as big as Bloomberg. Thank you all for your support!
[19:35] <SuperNoeMan> I have files inside a live cd that I want out. They're only accessible after boot
[19:35] <SuperNoeMan> and I'm booting into a vm
[19:35] <SuperNoeMan> the vm only has a terminal interface
[19:35] <SuperNoeMan> how can I get my files out?
[19:35] <CatKiller> XMLnewbi_: That's what I explained
[19:36] <bgardner> ielo: Your sources.list is pointed at saucy - finish your apt-get update and then do apt-get upgrade and tell us how it replies
[19:36] <XMLnewbi_> kinda mixed, not clear, and getting directed to the founder page doesnt clear it up. but meh maybe im just blind sometimes
[19:36] <ielo> bgardner: ok thanks for your help :)) you should feel good about yourself you helped someone who needed it
[19:36] <CatKiller> XMLnewbi_: I guess they wanted people to hear about it without saying: "Our phone project was a complete failure with only half the funds raised, albeit some serious PR from a global tech talk about it" ;)
[19:37] <bgardner> ielo: Glad to help out, come on back if you need more assistance
[19:37] <bgardner> SuperNoeMan: Map a USB device through from the host and push your data onto a flash drive that way.
[19:37] <ielo> bgardner:  :)))) i will forever remember this
[19:39] <intrader> Anyone, perhaps a new bug in 13.10. WHen I scroll in the Android SDK Manager, I get multiple red lines what eventually fill the space not allowing me to see the stuff in the manager
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> dsalfran, Make a thread at the ubuntu forums, have uefi in the header, there is a couple of people there focused in this area, if you get no answers here.
[19:40] <_root_> i did sudo apt-add-repository ppa:freenx-team ;;; what is the opposite command to remove PPA or if i should do it by hand what of which file should be deleted?
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge | _root_
[19:41] <intrader> Anyone, perhaps a new bug in 13.10. WHen I scroll in the Android SDK Manager, I get multiple red lines what eventually fill the space not allowing me to see the stuff in the manager. Moving the cursor over the red lines, it refreshes and I can see
[19:42] <_root_> wilee-nilee, thanks
[19:42] <dsalfran> wilee-nilee: Thanks, I'll do that. Right now I'm trying to fix it the hard way, I found something named rEFInd
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> intrader, everything else graphic wise works fine?
[19:43] <jexmex_> so got my wireless adapter using wl driver (broadcom bcm4321), that does not work, ndiswrapper works with a driver I found, but it will not allow me to connect to my wpa2 secured network
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> !bcm | jexmex_
[19:43] <intrader> wilee-nilee, yes, except in the Xchat (this app), I see garbled lines once in a while - like now
[19:44] <jexmex_> wilee-nilee, ya I have been doing all those things listed.  gonna try to find another driver to use with ndiswrapper I think
[19:45] <vala_for_life> anyone who knows a website where i can throw in code and then they will have a look at the code
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> intrader, the xchat app is rather basic I would check the graphics in general, not an area I'm real up in, but that would be my area to look.
[19:45] <xll11> Where do I put header files if I want the compiler to find them?
[19:45] <lonewulf85> Hey all I have a question about compression in Ubuntu 12.04
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> jexmex_, You doing any reboots after setting stuff up?
[19:45] <jexmex_> yes
[19:46] <genii> !ask | lonewulf85
[19:47] <vala_for_life> !patience
[19:47] <lonewulf85> My question is how can I compress a 4.4gb mkv file down to about 1.5gb?
[19:47] <_root_> ubottu, thanks
[19:48] <_root_> W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com saucy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192  ????
[19:48] <sruz25> what do I need to do, apart from having grub installed on my /dev/sda, to make my pc recognize grub? Live CD recognizes my grub and loads MY grub with MY settings, but my pc on it's own just won't do that...
[19:48] <sruz25>  I recently deleted some win recovery environment partition... after that, my grub just stopped loading..
[19:49] <lonewulf85> sruz, Where was the recovery partition?
[19:50] <sruz25> SYSTEM-DRV-partition
[19:50] <sruz25> lenovo
[19:50] <sruz25> on the begining
[19:50] <sruz25> 200mb
[19:51] <lonewulf85> sruz25, You can try mounting the drive in a live boot disk and running the update grub command I think it is sudo apt-get install grub
[19:53] <sruz25> I am now booted into my system, when I start my LiveCD but choose not to load the system on it and let it boot from my HDD, it recognizes my grub, I have installed and loads it...
[19:53] <sruz25> but the PC itself just won't load my grub...
[19:53] <delinquentme> anyone in here setup tons of laptops with ubuntu? I'm trying to figure out if theres a semi-powerful ultrabook which wouldn't cause issues with graphics drivers and setup running a 12.04 ubuntu installation
[19:54] <schultza> delinquentme: the only video driver that runs cleanly in linux as there is an open source driver are the intel chipsets.
[19:55] <sruz25> I wonder, if it may be doing it, because it's ext2 which my system in ROM can't read...
[19:55] <schultza> nvidia and amd/radeon still have proprietary drivers.
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> sruz25, take a look at the bootrepair at the least you can run just the bootinfo summary for a layout script to be generated to be posted, save the url if you run the app. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:56] <delinquentme> schultza, Ive got an i7 chipset ... and it craps the bed.
[19:56] <sruz25> I'll try that, ty
[19:56] <schultza> i7 would be a cpu/processor.
[19:56] <lonewulf85> sruz25, ext2 is just the file system type it should not stop you from booting how old is the system?
[19:57] <lonewulf85> smaller .mkv compression?
[19:57] <sruz25> I bougnt this pc 2years ago
[19:57] <_Bauer> guys, my apport-bug does not show me the bug report.. it just disappears after reporting the problem...
[19:58] <schultza> delinquentme: you are looking for the Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (or GMA) rather than Radeon or NVidia.
[19:59] <englewood> i am trying to bond my both network cords to one. if i run 'sudo ifenslave bond0 eth0' and the same for eth1 it adds them. how do i ensure this is done while booting?
[19:59] <schultza> or Intel HD Graphics
[19:59] <tgm4883> lonewulf85, I believe mkv is just a container.
[19:59] <lonewulf85> sruz25, Then it should not be the ext2 file system.
[19:59] <schultza> delinquentme: if you have a nVidia or Radeon on your computer, your computer is not using the Intel HD Graphics system.
[20:00] <OerHeks> lonewulf85, mkv is good compressed, recode it with fewer frames per second, but 1.5 gb is very small
[20:00] <lonewulf85> tgm4883, I am aware of that can I compress the file and still have it play?
[20:00] <tgm4883> lonewulf85, play where?
[20:01] <delinquentme> schultza, oh so this is the thing where I deactivate the nvidia graphics and just use the intel
[20:01] <xll11> if I have a file.txt on the Desktop, what's the absolute path to him?
[20:01] <xll11> .../Desktop/file.txt?
[20:01] <schultza> delinquentme: as for the proprietary drivers, id prefer and recommend radeon as they are currently better on their support for linux drivers. Of course, this is just my opinion.
[20:01] <englewood> this is my interfaces file. http://pastebin.com/iGCE6J4Y the bond part is basically try and error so far
[20:02] <anudas> home/user/Desktop/file.txt
[20:02] <schultza> delinquentme: I dont think you can just disable the nvidia. If it's installed, it will be active on a laptop.
[20:02] <trism> _Bauer: was it a crash bug? unfortunately I think those only go to errors.ubuntu.com now and we don't get actual bug reports that normal people can see (though you could ask in #ubuntu-bugs to confirm)
[20:03] <njin> Hi guy, i got a laptop that has a black vertical line of about one millimeter in the center exact of the lcd, the colour and writtens are garbled and this behaviour is present from the bios screen. Can be a problem of video card or of the lcd ??
[20:04] <trism> _Bauer: though you could also check that page to see if yours is one of the top bugs, some of them link to actual reports
[20:04] <schultza> njin: sounds like hw issue
[20:04] <schultza> njin: have you tried the flashing multicolor video to check to see if it's a stickly LED?
[20:04] <njin> yes,is hardware but I want to know if it is a lcd or video card, thanks
[20:05] <m3kk> what is the shortcut for killing a app?
[20:05] <garcianc> njin, you could plug in another monitor and see what that shows
[20:05] <schultza> the flashing video needs to be on the LEDs that are apparently stuck or it will not work.
[20:05] <m3kk> i mean
[20:05] <msdw> njin: do you have a monitor connection on your laptop check if the line apears on the other monitor maby is the lcd
[20:05] <m3kk> i want to kill an app running that does not respond and does not close when i try
[20:05] <njin> schultza, i've tried with an external monitor, but it is not detected
[20:05] <schultza> their suggestion is a process of elimination.. mine tries to fix sticky leds
[20:07] <anudas> for killing aplication, you can use terminal, top, then kill and number of aplication
[20:07] <mydoge> is this the appropriate place to ask a question about apt-get?
[20:07] <njin> schulta, thanks, the line is all along the screen, not few pixels
[20:07] <schultza> njin: is it a crack in the LED screen? it may need to be replaced. if it's just LEDs.. you need to have at least 3 seperate LEDs having issues.
[20:07] <njin> schultza:^^
[20:07] <schultza> njin: did you drop or hit the laptop in anyway?
[20:07] <_Bauer> trism: yes it was a crash report... I understand now why, but its wrong not to allow me to track the status of my report.. I have too frequent bug reports, and I want to track why they arent resolved yet
[20:07] <anudas> apt-get, symaptic
[20:07] <njin> schultza, no nothing...
[20:07] <m3kk> nevermind i got this
[20:07] <tgm4883> anudas, *synaptic
[20:07] <_Bauer> trism: by 'bug report' I mean crash reporst.. for me its the same
[20:08] <abradley> I have a strange issue: essentially, autofs deletes a folder at boot
[20:08] <njin> is a vertical line from the bottom to the top of the lcd in the exact midddleù
[20:08] <njin> this makes me think to a card issue..
[20:09] <schultza> njin: it sounds like a crack. if your laptop is under warrenty, see if your computer vender can replace the LED of that laptop. The vender of that laptop or best buy (if you got it through them). Otherwise, you may have to purchase a one time hw warrenty to fix this issue.
[20:09] <schultza> LEDs can crack.
[20:09] <mydoge> @anudas. I was having issues with the emacs provided by apt-get, so I installed it from source. Now I'm trying to install something that has emacs as a dependency, but my apt-get says that emacs is not installed. How do I get it to recognize the emacs I've installed from source?
[20:09] <trism> _Bauer: I agree, it is an irritating change if you don
[20:09] <schultza> They are meant to be a single plane of LEDs.
[20:09] <ajoox> Wow
[20:09] <trism> _Bauer: don't have access to errors.ubuntu.com
[20:09] <ajoox> there are a lot of people here
[20:09] <abradley> /mnt/nfs/vol1 exists. reboot (autofs starts). folder is gone. service autofs stop. mkdir /mnt/nfs/vol1 creates folder. service autofs start. folder gets populated (mount goes through correctly). What's causing this?
[20:09] <njin> schultza, thanks
[20:10] <kostkon> njin, btw is it a new laptop?
[20:10] <schultza> correction.. LED screens can crack. Backplane seperation in the circuit board for the LEDs.
[20:11] <schultza> kostkon: thats why i was suggesting a warrenty based fix with his computer vendor.
[20:11] <scorpius> what companies other than dell come with ubuntu pre-installed?
[20:11] <schultza> and i was informing him that they can still support it, but it may cost money (if he's out of warrenty).
[20:11] <kostkon> schultza, yeah
[20:11] <njin> koston, no is an acer with a nvidia integrated card
[20:11] <njin> kostkon:^^
[20:14] <njin> the strange things is that i can see the images, but them are a sort of unfocused, also seems a really poor definition...with this vertical line..
[20:14] <kostkon> njin, what are you planning to do
[20:14] <schultza> btw.. .a few days ago I was asking for help in fixing my stuck Computer, Trash, and Home icons on the desktop. I fixed that issue. I had nemo installed and I had to configure that through nemo on dconf.
[20:15] <njin> kostkon, I'm thinking to change the mobo
[20:15] <schultza> njin: yeah, it's sounding like a crack in the display.
[20:15] <kostkon> njin, hmm
[20:15] <njin> I dunno
[20:15] <_Bauer> trism: I am looking at errors.ubuntu.com on the last reported package crashed for me, but I still dont know how to locate my report...
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> njin, Can you boot any other live cd or install and have a normal screen?
[20:16] <schultza> It's not the video card, or it will appear on the external monitor.
[20:17] <njin> the external monitors are not detected even if working and the issue is present in the bios screen
[20:17] <_Bauer> Another issue I have, is when linux is booting, after a few seconds, keyboard stops working, until I login into password-less account (child account), and then re-login into mine, then keyboard works... I dont know against which package to report this
[20:17] <njin> this is strange, that two external are not detected
[20:18] <schultza> njin: with a laptop, there may be some kind of Fn-F3 through Fn-F5 key combo to get it to work on the external monitor.
[20:19] <schultza> Fn = Function key that is between the Super (Windows) key and Alt/Control on the bottom left of the keyboard.
[20:19] <njin> schultza, I will remount the mobo and retry then, but i've already tryied the key kombo to activate it..
[20:19] <schultza> ah ok
[20:20] <njin> schultza and others guys, thanks for the help..
[20:21] <schultza> but the issue is in bios.. im thinking hw related. and you say it is across the center of the screen. I have not seen a stuck LED group like that across the entire screen in a line in my history of laptop phone support. I personally think it's a crack in the LED screen. If that is the case, the screen needs a replacement.
[20:22] <njin> schultza, is perfectly in the middle all along the vericality of the screen, for the rest the images are visible but with low resolution
[20:23] <marz> I followed some steps to repair grub, now it redirects me to grub command line when booting up. I'm currently using a Live CD
[20:23] <schultza> I'm thinking LED screen first, njin.
[20:23] <marz> how do I repair it?
[20:23] <baron_zemo> how do i disable the 'Fn' keys in ubuntu?  On my laptop if I want to press 'F4' i have to hold 'Fn'  is there a way to disable this in ubuntu?
[20:23] <njin> don't seems to me a tipical crack, but i'm not an expert..
[20:23] <scorpius> ubuntu pre-loaded laptop suggestions?
[20:24] <njin> scultza, sorry, it is not led, it is lcd
[20:24] <schultza> LED screen cracks are wierd, but rare.
[20:24] <schultza> LCD (contains some liquid in the mix)
[20:24] <schultza> LCD cracks are more common.
[20:24] <anudas> someone know how work rsync? it is very good program
[20:25] <schultza> anudas: whats up?
[20:25] <tch> Hi all :) I've got small problem with chmod: I'm using minidlna and all media are stored in /home/dlna folder (chown dlna:dlna). My user is a member of dlna group but I see files and folders in /home/dlna only when I grant myself rights to execute this folder (+x). Anyone could tell me why right to write and read isn't enought?
[20:26] <marz> I tried recovering grub but now I get redirected to the grub prompt when booting up, how do i fix this?
[20:26] <anudas> chmod 777
[20:27] <njin> schultza, thanks, I want to retry before take a decision. and the weird is that is not the screen craked, the line, perfectly vertical and in the middle, is ~ 3 pixel large
[20:27] <schultza> anudas: I normally do the following to copy directories and do backups. rsync -avz directory user@computer:directory
[20:28] <schultza> njin: I've seen bars too, but never uniformly.
[20:28] <marz> I tried recovering grub but now I get redirected to the grub prompt when booting up, how do i fix this?
[20:28] <njin> schultza, that the weird imho, is perfect from  the start to the end and in the exact middle...
[20:28] <tkz> Hi I got a question and I was wondering if someone could help me
[20:29] <anudas> schultza, rsync is better then cp and rm
[20:29] <sopicones> hello
[20:29] <tkz> hi, yes I got a question about CTF
[20:29] <tkz> I was wondering what is the minimum knowledge that you need to have in order to play CTF ?
[20:29] <schultza> anudas: yes it is. maintains archive and permissions.
[20:30] <OerHeks> tkz what is CTF?
[20:30] <njin> schultza, ok many thanks , best wishes ..
[20:30] <tkz> capture the flag
[20:30] <anudas> schultza,  yes, its like remembering
[20:30] <schultza> capture the flag... linux game? tkz, what are you planning to do?
[20:31] <schultza> njin: good luck.
[20:31] <Pici> tkz: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[20:31] <tkz> I just was wondering
[20:31] <genii> Pici: Probably Warsow
[20:31] <kostkon> tkz, many games have ctf modes? which one you are referring to
[20:31] <tkz> the linux one
[20:31] <anudas> playonlinux :-)
[20:31] <tkz> the hacking one sorry
[20:31] <kostkon> ??
[20:32] <tkz> the one that you need to get different kind of information from your oponent website
[20:32] <anudas> or scummVM
[20:32] <tkz> and you earn points
[20:32] <schultza> also keep in mind, that ctf is a game mode for games. Ubuntu is not a game. It is an os. If you are having issues starting a program on ubuntu, do you have some error codes that point to ubuntu?
[20:32] <tkz> but getting information
[20:32] <kostkon> tkz, you are in the wrong channel then
[20:32] <tkz> oh
[20:32] <tkz> Im really sorry
[20:33] <tkz> my terminal is not working properly
[20:33] <tkz> I just joined the backtrack and now im in linux
[20:33] <tkz> please I beg your pardon
[20:33] <tkz> have a good day
[20:34] <kostkon> tkz, this channel is only for ubuntu support. you can join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want
[20:34] <tkz> oh , perfect thank you
[20:37] <lonewulf85> I am having touble with apt-get and ubuntu software updater anyone help
[20:38] <anudas> apt-get, synaptic, yum
[20:38] <abradley> for some reason, this process must be repeated after every boot to get the mount to work (stop autofs, mkdir, start autofs). Somehow, autofs keeps deleteing the vol1 folder: http://i.imgur.com/y0gNBbk.png
[20:38] <_root_> how could i install wgetpaste in ubuntu?
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85: state the problems to the channel for help.
[20:38] <lonewulf85> _root_, sudo apt-get install wgetpaste
[20:39] <gschanuel> folks.. wierd problem.. when I run the command "date +%u -d 2013-10-20" is should give me "7" but it give's me "invalid date". The same happens with "date +%u -d 2012-10-21"
[20:39] <_root_> lonewulf85,  Unable to locate package wgetpaste
[20:39] <gschanuel> with other dates it works fine.. like "date +%u -d 2013-10-19" and  "date +%u -d 2013-10-21"
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> !info wgetpaste
[20:40] <lonewulf85> I run sudo apt-get update and I get an error about it failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release.gpg
[20:40] <gschanuel> it happens in Arch and ubuntu 13.10
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> !find wgetpaste
[20:40] <anudas> sudo apt-get install wget*
[20:41] <_root_> is there any possible way to install it in saucy
[20:41] <lonewulf85> wilee-nilee, Are you running saucy?
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85: why?
[20:42] <schultza> wget is not available in saucy?
[20:42] <lonewulf85> wilee-nilee, Just wondering what its like compared to 12.04
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> !info wget
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> wgetpaste is not
[20:43] <schultza> hmmm...
[20:43] <schultza> !info wgetpaste
[20:43] <kostkon> !info wgetpaste raring
[20:43] <schultza> what is it?
[20:44] <Atlantic777> Hi! I have a laptop with UEFI thingy, some Windows installed (7, 8, whatever) and there was an ubuntu 12.10 installation. I reinstalled the ubuntu, it's 12.04 now, but system doesn't boot.
[20:44] <Atlantic777> I'm welcomed with nice black GRUB rescue prompt.
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85: not really a channel topic without specifics, it is ubuntu with some packages uodated.
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> updated*
[20:44] <Atlantic777> When I installed it I've chosen old ext4 partition. There was no separate /boot partition.
[20:45] <OerHeks> I removed Firefox completely, now it appears in updates, how is this possible?
[20:45] <schultza> why not "pastebinit" ?
[20:45] <Atlantic777> Installer did mention something about BIOS reserved space, some 1 MB partition which I tryied to choose but it wasn't successfull so I continued without it.
[20:45] <Atlantic777> Where to go now? What to do?
[20:45] <lonewulf85> wilee-nilee, simple answer thanks lol.
[20:46] <raevol> hi all, on saucy, any ideas why unity-panel-ser is periodically using 100% of my cpu?
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85: you are not even close to using the channel as designed, simple answers for simple minds.
[20:47] <lonewulf85> wilee-nilee, I know that thanks.
[20:52] <baron_zemo> sorry asked this question already but crashed, Can I disable the 'Fn' keys on my laptop in ubuntu?  if I want to press 'F4' i have to hold 'Fn'  at the same time, it's not a big deal but was wondering if i could edit this.
[20:53] <|nv|s|b|e> is Getdeb down  ??
[20:53] <CreativeEmbassy> can someone tell me how to install ubuntu server with the netboot files?
[20:53] <CreativeEmbassy> I have pxe up and running and everything
[20:53] <CreativeEmbassy> all of that is working, and it's booting to the netboot menu
[20:53] <CreativeEmbassy> but I want to make sure I'm installing the ubuntu server, not desktop
[20:53] <FloodBot1> CreativeEmbassy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:53] <CreativeEmbassy> or is there a way to convert ubuntu desktop to server 13.10?
[20:54] <CreativeEmbassy> Sorry FloodBot1!
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> CreativeEmbassy: the ubuntu base is basically the server.
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> CreativeEmbassy: there is a #ubuntu-server channel
[20:55] <CreativeEmbassy> really? it doesn't install the desktop stuff from scratch? because I'm really just trying to learn how to set up ubuntu server cloud. using docker.io and all that.
[20:56] <CreativeEmbassy> I just realized that. I'll ask in there. Thanks. :)
[20:56] <univerzh> enter as punctuation . fascinating never looked at it like that
[20:57] <altayr> hello every
[20:57] <altayr> 1
[20:58] <Corbett> hi
[20:58] <univerzh> hi
[20:58] <m3kk> as soon as i go in to "restricted drivers" i get a crash of "software-properties-gtk" someone got similar?
[20:58] <altayr> first time here, just got installed ubuntu
[20:58] <altayr> i might stick on something here
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> m3kk: that is a very confusing description.
[20:59] <m3kk> wilee-nilee, im sorry what more do you want to know?
[21:00] <m3kk> wilee-nilee, software and updates > Drivers > Crash of software-properties-gtk =send crash report?" it worked fine during livesession
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> m3kk: go into? the other is a terminal command to bring up the software sources gui.
[21:00] <m3kk> wilee-nilee, im sorry you lost me
[21:01] <m3kk> wilee-nilee, im not running a terminal command im doing this from gui
[21:01] <m3kk> altayr, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:01] <raevol> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1199877
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> m3kk: doing what in what gui, this a live cd, or install, or trying to fix a install with a live cd?
[21:03] <m3kk> wilee-nilee, this is a freshly install, trying to activate resstricted driver GPU
[21:03] <bl4ckdu5t> How do I switch to KDE desktop from unity
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> m3kk: you updated?
[21:04] <OerHeks> bl4ckdu5t, logout, switch, login
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> bl4ckdu5t: install it and choose from login
[21:05] <m3kk> wilee-nilee, they were showing up in livesession while i tried
[21:05] <m3kk> wilee-nilee, yes just recently got an update
[21:05] <anudas> apt-get install kde*
[21:05] <m3kk> wilee-nilee,  not from 13.04  freshly installed 13.10 if thats what you mean, but i recieved updates right after install
[21:06] <bl4ckdu5t> wilee-nilee: just apt-get install kde ??
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> m3kk: graphics are not my area, however more details such as the card and driver would be helpful for other users to help.
[21:07] <m3kk> wilee-nilee, radeon 6320 integrated in E450
[21:07] <Corbett> Hello everyone. first time here. I'd like to switch from Mac Os to linux. but as a professionnal photographer. Where could i get advice ?
[21:07] <fishduck> zup, how do I calc?
[21:07] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> bl4ckdu5t: I have  not used that desktop, I believe there are numerous de possibilties in that set install the one you like.
[21:08] <bgardner> Corbett: Hello and welcome.  This is the support channel for once you have Ubuntu installed - you might want to head over to #ubuntu-offtopic for your question.
[21:08] <m3kk> using radeon 6320 my software-properties-gtk crashes while searching for restricted drivers. Fresh 13.10 install .. someone know?
[21:08] <anudas> or apt-get install gnom*
[21:08] <intrader> wilee-nilee, I am having graphis problems in eclipse ADT also. So it seems that the problem is in the graphics of 13.10
[21:09] <pseudorandom> Hi everybody
[21:09] <dimitrilc> Is 13.10 stable?
[21:09] <Corbett> @bgardner copy that, thx
[21:09] <bodhi_zazen> anudas: consider apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop , the *-desktop are more complete
[21:10] <bodhi_zazen> dimitrilc: stable enough for release, YMMV
[21:10] <pseudorandom> I have a problem with dual monitors in ubuntu 12.04. When I enable both my laptop's monitor and the external monitor, one of the monitors displays more or less stable image but the other one (laptop being in this case) is blinking all the time, showing weird stuff. This does not happen when I mirror them
[21:10] <intrader> dimitrilc, I have problems with graphic stuff during scrolling, also the Xchat screen repaint as it scrolls up, in eclipse scroling, in eclipse menus, and ...
[21:11] <dimitrilc> bodhi_zazen: I currently have intell chipset. I was hoping Xmir would be stable enough
[21:11] <bodhi_zazen> pseudorandom: what video card ?
[21:11] <pseudorandom> bodhi_zazen: amd radeon hd 7700M
[21:11] <dimitrilc> AMD sucks
[21:11] <dimitrilc> on linux
[21:12] <m3kk> using radeon 6320 my software-properties-gtk crashes while searching for restricted drivers. Fresh 13.10 install .. someone know?
[21:12] <pseudorandom> dimitrilc does it mean i should just give up? sad thing is it works very well with windows
[21:12] <bodhi_zazen> dimitrilc: Xmir is, IMO, not yet stable, you can try it if you wish - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-October/037695.html
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> intrader: I'm not sure of the problem, in general graphics are not an area I have to mess with, however making broad conclusions in a release seem strange.
[21:13] <bodhi_zazen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Installing
[21:13] <dimitrilc> pseudorandom: I am not sure. I guess if you are sticking with mesa you should be ok. AMD is pushing hard for their drivers after the steamOS thingy.
[21:14] <dimitrilc> pseudorandom: but only god knows whether amd will support laptop chipsets.
[21:14] <dimitrilc> bodhi_zazen: thanks!!
[21:14] <pseudorandom> dimitrilc: that means basically there's no way of fixing that for me right now... :/
[21:15] <pseudorandom> sh*t
[21:15] <dimitrilc> pseudorandom: not right now, sorry. You can try 13.10. It has an updated kernel.
[21:16] <altayr> h
[21:16] <pseudorandom> dimitrilc oh, 13.10 didn't work for me at all, i had huge problems
[21:17] <dimitrilc> pseudorandom: 13.10 has 3.11 kernel; but the 3.12 kernel has a huge boost (with the proprietary driver)
[21:17] <pseudorandom> dimitrilc: maybe I'll try 13.10 with 3.12 kernel then, but now today :) thanks a lot anyway!
[21:18] <dimitrilc> pseudorandom: no problem. try google "amd kernel 3.12 linux"
[21:18] <dimitrilc> pseudorandom: there is as much as 90% increase in performance
[21:18] <pseudorandom> dimitrilc: btw, can i use 3.12 kernel with 12.04?
[21:19] <pseudorandom> dimitrilc: sounds possible to me...
[21:19] <dimitrilc> pseudorandom: You can, you can also always revert back to the old kernel on GRUB if things did not work out.
[21:20] <pseudorandom> dimitrilc: actually i'll try that now... just i have to find a quick way :)
[21:20] <dimitrilc> pseudorandom: good luck
[21:20] <bodhi_zazen> pseudorandom: yes, either compile it yourself or use the testing repo - http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[21:20] <dimitrilc> pseudorandom: don't blow it up
[21:20] <bodhi_zazen> pseudorandom: both are unsupported of course ;0
[21:20] <pseudorandom> dimitrilc: we will see :D
[21:20] <pseudorandom> bodhi zazen: thx :) i think i won't compile, but just try repo
[21:21] <bodhi_zazen> compiling is not too bad =)
[21:21] <bodhi_zazen> pseudorandom: http://bodhizazen.net/Tutorials/kernel
[21:22] <bodhi_zazen> use localmodconfig
[21:23] <shrimpy> Hey guys, I'm trying to use suckless.org's dwm as my window manager
[21:23] <shrimpy> and although I've been able to configure, compile, and install it,
[21:23] <pseudorandom> bodhi_zazen: thanks for the link :) actually why not, perhaps i will just compile
[21:24] <shrimpy> I am having some trouble without some of the gnome-services
[21:24] <pseudorandom> but that's too much effort for this time of day, i'll do it tomorrow
[21:24] <shrimpy> Such as gnome-settings-daemon and gnome-keyring-daemon
[21:24] <pseudorandom> i still have to wake up at 6 and go to work in the morning (to compile kernel for my employer :/)
[21:25] <shrimpy> How can I find out what gnome-services Unity runs at start up so I can run the same ones when dwm starts?
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> shrimpy: 3rd party you might contact them or related support.
[21:25] <OhYou_> So I'm attempting to install lubuntu on a laptop without a cd drive.  Wubi will let me install lubuntu, but only an old version, anyone know of a way to use 13.10?
[21:26] <shrimpy> wilee-nilee, I disagree. I think the services Unity runs at start-up is a very first-party Unity issue.
[21:26] <pseudorandom> c u later guys
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> OhYou_: wubi is a bad choice in general unless that is the only option.
[21:26] <dimitrilc> OhYou_: you have to download the latest version http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/13.10/release/
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> shrimpy: it is not a matter of agreement but the  channel norm or technically no 3rd party support.
[21:27] <OhYou_> dimitrilc I have, it will not let me put that in wubi
[21:28] <_root_>  connecting to freenx server i get   SSH public key authentication failed: Public key file doesn't exist
[21:28] <_root_> ???????
[21:28] <shrimpy> wilee-nilee. Unity, the default Ubuntu DE, is not 3rd party.
[21:29] <everald> Hello. Skype doesn't play any sound anymore for me; other applications (Clementine) work without any problem.
[21:29] <everald> Any idea?
[21:29] <bodhi_zazen> shrimpy: a better question is what services do you want? if you want a list, boot a live CD ?
[21:29] <shrimpy> I would like to know what gnome-services Unity runs by default, or how can they can be changed or configured
[21:30] <bodhi_zazen> depends on the service =)
[21:30] <shrimpy> I would start with gnome-keyring and gnome-settings
[21:31] <shrimpy> or even, what controls dbus starting?
[21:31] <bodhi_zazen> I think gnome-keyring is seahorse, and if you are not running gnome, why would you run gnome-settings ?
[21:32] <Siecje>  I have a vm ware running ubuntu and if I have gnome as the desktop envrionment I can copy and paste fills from the host machine into the virtual machine, but not if I have kde running
[21:32] <bodhi_zazen> shrimpy: in your window manager start script, config file, run dbus-launch
[21:32] <shrimpy> I dont know wh, bodhi_zazen, but it seems like Unity runs gnome-settings-daemon.
[21:32] <shrimpy> Where is that defined for Unity, bodhi_zazen?
[21:33] <bodhi_zazen> why do you want to run gnome-settings-daemon if you do not know what is does and are not running gnome/unity ?
[21:34] <shrimpy> I have some idea of what it does, and I want it to continue to behave the same way when I run other DEs
[21:34] <shrimpy> And gnome-settings-daemon is just an example. There are other services that I want to use in the same way they work in Unity
[21:35] <veryhappy> hi guys, is there any possibility to set up the preamble for wifi in ubuntu or other advanced network settings and also for LAN?
[21:35] <shrimpy> It would be nice if I could find out what is started when I log in using lightDM and select the default, Unity.
[21:35] <bodhi_zazen> you will have to identify what you want to run and look at the documentation for your window manager to configure
[21:36] <shrimpy> So it's start from scratch, then? Is there no way to discover what Unity launches? I dont think this is an unreasonable question.
[21:37] <bodhi_zazen> shrimpy: this is how I do it for Fluxbox - http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/a-5-minute-guide-to-fluxbox/
[21:37] <bodhi_zazen> but if you want Unity, run unity ;p
[21:38] <shrimpy> I want dbus, and the gnome-services that use it to behave the same way as they do in Unity or Gnome-shell. I dont want anything else that Unity offers.
[21:39] <shrimpy> Acting like Unity is a monolithic all-or-nothing option (when it uses services from another DE) is disingenuous
[21:40] <shrimpy> Anyway, I appreciate the example for fluxbox in the link
[21:43] <pero> is chromium going to get updated in the repo any time soon?
[21:43] <br112> anyone here know where the unity ui files are like where you can edit 'icon_size' and stuff?
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> pero: isn't this a ppa?
[21:43] <SonikkuAmerica> pero: It's on v30.x
[21:45] <pero> the official 'chromium-browser' package is on 29 - no?
[21:45] <Peyam> hi
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> !info chromium-browser
[21:46] <Peyam> I have a problem with my wireless connection. I want to install the drive for my computer. I dont have a cable so I connect with the live usb. I can see drivers in additional drivers with usb stick but not without it . how I install the driver?
[21:46] <shrimpy> !info gnome-keyring
[21:51] <everald> Skype sometimes works, sometimes stays silent, sometimes plays some persistent loud noise. All while calling the echo service. Ideas?
[21:52] <eph3meral> so, I just ran out of disk space on this VPS I have, but only on the main drive, I have like 300G available on a different mount point
[21:52] <mathiasrrrr> test
[21:52] <eph3meral> but I tried to import our production database and it ate up all the main disk cuz I didn't realize postgres was on the master drive
[21:53] <eph3meral> now I can hardly do anything cuz even tab completion won't work cuz the "disk is full"
[21:53] <Darkelfjuggalo> My aunt wants me to reformat her laptop to Linux, Model: Dell Inspiron B130 http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2732 ; I am curious what flavor will run best on a laptop this old [i used to have one that I got in 2006]
[21:53] <eph3meral> I manually deleted /var/lib/postgres/9.1/main (the supposed data folder)
[21:53] <eph3meral> but now postgres is borked, how can I fully refresh the postgres install back to its default state?
[21:54] <veryhappy> Darkelfjuggalo: debian, arch linux or ubuntu, but with a little tweaking it will run very well.
[21:54] <Kihokki> Hello! I've a problem with my fresh Ubuntu 13.10, I installed gnome-session-fallback and it looks cool, but now I can't switch windows with alt+tab and my main menu is a mess because subcategory "others" contains duplicate app launuchers
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> eph3meral: purge it, then reinstall it
[21:54] <Kihokki> *launchers
[21:55] <veryhappy> Darkelfjuggalo: i'm ready to help you when required.
[21:55] <joar> close
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> Darkelfjuggalo: you will have to do a net install I would try lubuntu, however it is a bit of a cli config os, not really a beginners best.
[21:55] <eph3meral> hitsujiTMO: ok, how do I do that? what commands?
[21:55] <eph3meral> well, you can omit the install part, I can figure out how to reinstall
[21:56] <Darkelfjuggalo> veryhappy; I know Unbuntu Unity will lag far too much on that old processor, so is there another Desktop Environment that will not have problems in 13.10?
[21:56] <OhYou_> Lubuntu
[21:56] <hitsujiTMO> eph3meral: sudo apt-get purge postrgresql-contrib && sudo apt-get install postgresql-contrib
[21:57] <clienthax> im transfering a 100gb folder from one box to another, the box im moving it from has a few gb of free space, is there a way i can pipe a rar of the folder across ssh etc?
[21:57] <hitsujiTMO> Darkelfjuggalo: what processor do you have and how much ram?
[21:57] <clienthax> atm im using rsync but its terribly slow
[21:57] <Darkelfjuggalo> OhYou ; Lubuntu, isn't designed for beginners really, and my aunt can barely understand ther WinXP that is on it
[21:57] <veryhappy> Darkelfjuggalo: xfce, lxde
[21:58] <Darkelfjuggalo> Above I linked to the specs on the model, there have been no changed from the factory specs
[21:58] <Darkelfjuggalo> http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2732 <~ Laptop Specs
[21:58] <auto> oi oi
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> Darkelfjuggalo: yeah, i'd definately go with lubuntu over xubuntu with that
[21:59] <Darkelfjuggalo> veryhappy ; xfce or lxde are these graphic interfaces like GNOME or KDE?
[21:59] <hedin> Hi, I have upgraded my computer from 13.04 to 13.10, started steam and installed FORCED, all working just fine with OSS driver... then suddently the screens went black... I ssh'ed to the computer and tryed to stop-start the lightdm service, but got this error: https://dpaste.de/BcQb
[21:59] <veryhappy> Darkelfjuggalo: not at all
[21:59] <hedin> and I still got black screen
[21:59] <veryhappy> Darkelfjuggalo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xfce http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LXDE
[22:00] <OhYou_> +1 lxde
[22:00] <veryhappy> Darkelfjuggalo: but i honestly doubt that Linux would be easier than XP
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> veryhappy  no FUD here, please
[22:01] <veryhappy> MonkeyDust: if it's better for the user why leave them do something bad?!
[22:01] <Darkelfjuggalo> she does not have a reinstall disc for the XP and she can't get anything to run on the XP that she has becuase the person that gave it to her has too much spyware I cant uninstall
[22:02] <veryhappy> Darkelfjuggalo: so that's something i can live with
[22:02] <veryhappy> MonkeyDust: i don't want to make any FUD BUT in every case i want to make the user feel BETTER
[22:02] <Darkelfjuggalo> she uses it to search the internet and it is 10 minutes to load the Home Page
[22:03] <veryhappy> Darkelfjuggalo: ok
[22:04] <Darkelfjuggalo> so she is asking me to find an OS that doesnt use too much Resouces so she can work faster
[22:04] <veryhappy> Darkelfjuggalo: got you
[22:05] <OhYou_> Darkel If you upgrade the ram, you could run puppy linux, that would be pretty fast
[22:05] <Darkelfjuggalo> here are some lightweight linux distributons, are any of these graphic interface? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_Linux_distribution
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> Darkelfjuggalo: Any chance of a more updated computer, that one is rather old and could fail like any will do eventually
[22:06] <Darkelfjuggalo> it is all she has and she cant afford to buy a new one...this one was given to her
[22:07] <everald> What is a device like /dev/video1? v4l2 or something else? Asking because "v4l2-dgb -D" shows what turned up as /dev/video0 (a webcam) but not what created /dev/video1 (a USB video frame grabber).
[22:07] <everald> (So is this because the frame grabber isn't actually v4l2? And /dev/video1 is some other subsystem?)
[22:07] <veryhappy> Darkelfjuggalo: it's hard to get a new notebook for her easily i think, but Lubuntu should do fine.
[22:08] <riceandbeans> is it completely necessary to have an MTA running?
[22:08] <veryhappy> riceandbeans: for what distribution?
[22:08] <riceandbeans> ubuntu
[22:09] <riceandbeans> I usually have one going but I found a system without any installed
[22:09] <veryhappy> riceandbeans: the MTA is needed for internal and/or external purpose.
[22:09] <riceandbeans> suprised it was up
[22:09] <veryhappy> riceandbeans: it delivers generally message from services
[22:09] <everald> Ah, v4l2-ctl --all -d /dev/video1 actually shows it.
[22:09] <riceandbeans> veryhappy: I know what an MTA does
[22:10] <riceandbeans> I just thought the system would come with one installed
[22:10] <veryhappy> oh ok
[22:10] <Codex_> err, I'm installing 13.10 and installation jams at setting up cups-client?
[22:10] <riceandbeans> and that it somewhat needed it
[22:10] <riceandbeans> I found a stray ubuntu system in the cluster that had nothing
[22:10] <riceandbeans> I didn't set up it, I can't stand ubuntu
[22:11] <veryhappy> riceandbeans: ubuntu generally?
[22:11] <riceandbeans> veryhappy: yes, *buntu, I can not stand
[22:11] <riceandbeans> veryhappy: I am a debian guy
[22:11] <riceandbeans> veryhappy: honestly, you ruined debain
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> riceandbeans: its all linux ubuntu is a desktop, hardly worth an emotional state.
[22:11] <riceandbeans> you took it and made it commercial and laden with malware and binary blobs and crap
[22:11] <veryhappy> riceandbeans: well, that's ubuntu here.
[22:12] <riceandbeans> wilee-nilee: the underlying commercial nature of some distributions does show a marked difference
[22:12] <veryhappy> riceandbeans: so i might want to point you to #debian
[22:13] <riceandbeans> wilee-nilee: aside from drastic changes to filesystem hierarchy, package management, init, kernel poisoning, malware, poor repackaging
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> riceandbeans: in your mind yes, and some others, however I have to question your base reasoning to be honest, and whether even valid overall.
[22:13] <riceandbeans> at heart, all GNU/Linux distros would be the same
[22:13] <OerHeks> riceandbeans, what 'malware' ? explain your rant please
[22:14] <LjL> yes explain your rant in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want :)
[22:14] <OerHeks> LjL +1
[22:15] <riceandbeans> OerHeks: Shuttleworth is very open about ubuntu installs phoning home with constant tracking built into different parts of the distro, from kernel to parts of X and parts of packaged WMs, providing ads and other unsolicited data to data mining companies
[22:15] <SmellyTaco> vaginal discharge
[22:16] <LjL> !ops | SmellyTaco
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> malware in ubuntu? how exciting! where did you read about it?
[22:16] <riceandbeans> OerHeks: the ubuntu owner himself is open about it, no use trying to deny it like a holocaust denier
[22:16] <garcianc> DrPhil ?  :-(
[22:16] <Ponch0> riceandbeans: prove sources please
[22:16] <Ponch0> provide*
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> don't enable the trolls
[22:17] <riceandbeans> Ponch0: really? look up your glorious leader, find any quote by him, read his own words at conferences
[22:17] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | riceandbeans if you wish to continue your rant di it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:17] <Ponch0> riceandbeans: ah misinformation
[22:17] <LjL> the privacy discussion can be interesting i'm sure, i'm interested for one, but the right place for it is #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:17] <Ponch0> good luck
[22:18] <Sashmo_> is there way to create a user that only has the ability to change IP address?
[22:18] <k1l> lets stick to technical ubuntu support in here.
[22:27] <asd> does anybody know what should i do with sound icon on panel?   http://i.imgur.com/g3HaTWV.png
[22:33] <dgirl> hi im having trouble with replication on pgpool2... ive 3 servers 1: it has a postgresql db and pgpool on it; 2: it has only postgresql; 3: it has only postgresql; the problem is that when i do an insert through pgpool's port it inserts only on the servers #2 and #3 but not in the localhost server #1
[22:34] <Guest62026> hi all i have two monitors on 12.04 but the second monitor does not show up in setting-displays, but if i upgrade to 12.10 it will work. so is there a package that i need that i do not have by default with 12.04
[22:35] <veryhappy> Guest62026: perhaps your Xorg.conf is set up wrong?
[22:35] <Guest62026> veryhappy: is there an easy way to fix that , it was originally set for one monitor
[22:36] <veryhappy> Guest62026: first we need to find out where the actual problem is, then we can see if there's an easy fix or not.
[22:37] <Guest62026> veryhappy: so what do you want to see first
[22:37] <veryhappy> Guest62026: please post the content of xrandr in pastebin
[22:37] <lachesis> i want to run a Windows 2008 Server R2 instance on an ubuntu server - libvirt + kvm or virtualbox?
[22:40] <veryhappy> lachesis: i'd suggest you to use libvirt + kvm because virtualbox is less used for commercial reasons.
[22:40] <atlas_128> hello
[22:40] <veryhappy> hello
[22:42] <lachesis> veryhappy, is kvm on par with virtualbox's performance for windows?
[22:42] <lachesis> i seem to remember guest additions having some paravirtualization components
[22:42] <lachesis> but it's been a long time
[22:42] <Guest62026> veryhappy: you gonna be here in a few hours i gotta head out now
[22:43] <veryhappy> lachesis: i'd like you to point to another more confirmed person.
[22:43] <veryhappy> Guest62026: probably not, unfortunately
[22:44] <Guest62026> veryhappy:  well here is what xrandr is can you pm me your thaughts
[22:44] <Guest62026> http://pastebin.com/TAPZMTD7
[22:44] <oisa> I have repositories in my software manager that are not in /etc/apt/sources.list. Where can I find them defined?
[22:45] <ShadowStrider> Can someone help me with boot repair?
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> oisa, /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:46] <oisa> wilee-nilee: thanks
[22:46] <mukti>  I have a VM running on my laptop with a bridged network adapter. At home, the VM works fine (WPA2 Auth) when the host laptop is connected to my wireless
[22:46] <mukti>                AP; however, at my University I cannot obtain an IP address. I assume this is because we use PEAP/MSCHAP for authentication. Is there a way to
[22:46] <mukti>                authenticate from the VM? I need to run two VMs on my laptop for a project, and I need to do it from within my University
[22:47] <ShadowStrider> I'm using dual boot pc where windows is located in  ssd and linux separate hdd
[22:47] <ShadowStrider> The boot loader asks if I want to install GRUB to all drives
[22:47] <ShadowStrider> How should I proceed?
[22:48] <veryhappy> ShadowStrider: install grub to the drive you boot as the first one.
[22:49] <ShadowStrider> And how do I determine that?
[22:49] <ShadowStrider> by sata port or what?
[22:49] <veryhappy> ShadowStrider: if you have a linux hdd with the boot partition on the same harddisk i'd suggest you to use the linux harddisk for grub.
[22:49] <ShadowStrider> ok
[22:49] <veryhappy> ShadowStrider: you should be able to get out which harddrive contains linux with fdisk /dev/sdx
[22:50] <ShadowStrider> No such file or directory
[22:50] <ShadowStrider> It says
[22:51] <ShadowStrider> "fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdx: No such file or directory"
[22:52] <ShadowStrider> umm
[22:52] <ShadowStrider> I now which device holds linux
[22:54] <ShadowStrider> So that one
[22:54] <ShadowStrider> what about other drives
[22:54] <alexw> What is the default ubuntu bash
[22:54] <alexw> I created a new user but am getting "$"
[22:55] <alexw> and autocompletion don't work etc
[22:55] <veryhappy> ShadowStrider: you shall not think of /dev/sdx as the name
[22:55] <Halite> What was command to start interactive haskell again?
[22:55] <veryhappy> ShadowStrider: you shall either use /dev/sda or /dev/sdb , sdx is just a general explanation
[22:55] <ShadowStrider> ok so /sda holds windows /sdb holds windows files /sdc/ and sdc1 holds this linux installations and /sdd is for windows files
[22:56] <ShadowStrider> Boot-repair asks me where I want to install Grub
[22:56] <ShadowStrider> Should I choose all of them or only sdc?
[22:57] <mukti> I there a way to set up PEAP/MSCHAP authentication through an Ubuntu VM in VirtualBox?
[22:58] <veryhappy> ShadowStrider: sdc should do
[22:58] <ShadowStrider> Ok
[22:58] <veryhappy> grub-install /dev/sdc
[22:58] <veryhappy> brb
[23:00] <ShadowStrider> Going to check that out now
[23:00] <ShadowStrider> If it works
[23:00] <Halite> I forgot the name of the package that offers Haskell in the console. What was it?
[23:01] <trism> Halite: ghc is probably what you want, or maybe haskell-platform
[23:02] <Halite> k ty
[23:02] <Ponch0> what do I format my usb stick to - to be able to make a bootable installation stick?
[23:02] <silverf0x> anyone can help me with crontab? mine cron.daile seems not running
[23:05] <k1l> Ponch0: just dd the ubuntu.iso onto it.
[23:06] <Ponch0> dd, k1l thanks i'll look that up.
[23:07] <wad> Most videos I try to watch in Chromium under my 12.10 (64-bit) give a message, "This video is currently unavailable". If I open it in Firefox, it works. What's up? Anyone else see this?
[23:07] <wad> I forgot to mention: These are Youtube videos.
[23:10] <dv9700> so, question: my laptop that I just installed xubuntu 13.10 on has a lot of buzzing on the headphone ports, is there anyway to fix that?
[23:10] <OhYou_> usb sound card
[23:11] <dv9700> well besides that
[23:11] <TomA> What would cause Alsa to record an audio track 146% slower than normal?
[23:13] <TomA> As in, I'm attempting to record from my mic (which is a usb mic) and the internal sound from the computer, but that internal sound is out of sync by 146% exactly.
[23:15] <TomA> Would anyone know where I can start to finding the solution?
[23:17] <Jordan_U> TomA: What app are you using to record?
[23:17] <TomA> Audacity, but this problem occurs in every program that I have used to record audio
[23:18] <Jordan_U> TomA: Try asking in #alsa.
[23:19] <TomA> Thanks
[23:23] <hsleem> hi
[23:24] <ac_slater> alright guys this has happened to me 5 times (literally). I'm developing a glib+Qt application and at various times signals get caught that arent supported to. Short story, I get a zombied process (or one unable to be killed with signals). I reboot. When I boot back up, ALL of my GCNOF and DCONF settings are back to default. What gives?
[23:25] <guest-aFsS0y> xfrbx v
[23:25] <ac_slater> s/supported/supposed
[23:25] <Jordan_U> ac_slater: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[23:25] <ac_slater> 12.04
[23:25] <Jordan_U> ac_slater: Are you doing a normal reboot or pulling the plug?
[23:26] <ac_slater> Jordan_U: just a normal `shutdown -r now`
[23:26] <kostkon> ac_slater, weird
[23:28] <ac_slater> kostkon: It *is* a VM. At first I thought it was because it was ran from an ESATA device. So I then created a VM on my harddisk and it happened again.
[23:28] <ac_slater> I even kept my dconf settings and try to do `dconf load / < settings.ui` and it didnt change anything... so there must be an issue
[23:28] <kostkon> ac_slater, you need to give more info though. e.g. what kind of signals are you responding to and what gets caught accidentally?
[23:29] <ac_slater> kostkon: Basically SIGINT get's caught and the version of GLib I'm using doesnt like that so it zombies (ie - in htop I see a 'z' next to the process), and killing the shell doesnt stop it. So I reboot.
[23:29] <kostkon> ac_slater, are you doing anything in your callbacks? is that the kind of signals you are talking about or something else?
[23:30] <kostkon> ac_slater, hmm
[23:30] <ac_slater> kostkon: I want to catch some signals but since I'm working on a team, someone slipped in a handler for SIGINT and it caused the issue
[23:30] <kostkon> ac_slater, right right
[23:30] <ac_slater> but that's not the issue really, the issue is what Ubuntu is doing to mess with my stuff
[23:31] <Guest31177> what is command to find if this box has a 32 or 64bit whatever.
[23:31] <ac_slater> Guest31177: `uname -a`
[23:32] <OerHeks> lscpu
[23:32] <ac_slater> or that
[23:32] <Jordan_U> ac_slater: It would be interesting to see if after such a reboot, and before logging in, ~/.config/dconf/user is empty or non-existant.
[23:32] <Guest31177> thank you ac_slater
[23:32] <ac_slater> Jordan_U: it's def not empty and dconf browser shows all of my proper values
[23:33] <ac_slater> Guest31177: `lscpu` is better
[23:33] <ac_slater> Jordan_U: dconf-editor I mean
[23:34] <ac_slater> Jordan_U: But isnt it gconf that handles panels, wallpapers, etc?
[23:34] <guest-aFsS0y> fghiojgorf
[23:34] <kostkon> ac_slater, some save in gconf some in dconf
[23:34] <sisterFister> I'm trying to install ubuntu from a usb but when it gets up to the part where I select where to install it there is no HD detected. I'm using a sandisk ssd. Did a ctrl + alt + f1, anyone know what to do from here? Maybe mount or format it?
[23:35] <roland> Hi. has anyone tried setting up server for diskless booting?
[23:35] <ac_slater> kostkon: Right. I just confirmed that gconf is for some UI stuff, in my case wallpaper, panel icons, etc
[23:36] <whuu> hello superstars
[23:36] <Jordan_U> ac_slater: gconf is the older configuration store, dconf is the new one. Apps that use gconf just haven't transitioned to dconf yet.
[23:37] <mr-rich-76> Hello. Every time I close my laptop, sound stops working. 13.10 - system76 laptop - any ideas?
[23:37] <whuu> i am trying to reverse a ssh tunnel on from my server to my local website however, i can access from my remote server via ssh tunnel when i am logged in on the remote server (i can access my remote box) but i can seem to forward my calls
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> mr-rich-76:  can you ssh into the box? sure its not going into suspend/hibernate?
[23:37] <whuu> gatewayports is set
[23:38] <sudostar> cunt
[23:39] <OhYou_> well then
[23:39] <sisterFister> I'm trying to install ubuntu from a usb but when it gets up to the part where I select where to install it there is no HD detected. I'm using a sandisk ssd. Did a ctrl + alt + f1, anyone know what to do from here? Maybe mount or format it?
[23:39] <ac_slater> Jordan_U: right. So gconf is showing my values and dconf is showing my values, but I have a default panel, wallpaper, etc. Not REALLY important but it happens all the time and it's terrible
[23:40] <OerHeks> sisterFister, does that SSD have 4 primairy partitions already?
[23:40] <mr-rich-76> Dr_Willis: I close the lid to my laptop - I reopen it later and sound doesnt work. I play around with alsamixer a bit an sometimes it comes back - not sure how.
[23:40] <sisterFister> OerHeks: Don't know. It doesn't show up in the table at all
[23:40] <mheinke> hi all
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> mr-rich-76:  could be suspend is crashing the sound card driver.
[23:40] <noche> Hello, I'm having some issues accessing my grub list. I hit shift but it keeps loading the saved default.
[23:41] <OerHeks> sisterFister, that could be the reason why it does not show up, as it can not have more than 4 primairy partitions
[23:41] <mr-rich-76> Dr_Willis: Im sure it is suspending
[23:41] <Biafra> mr-rich-76: what sound card does it have?
[23:41] <OerHeks> sisterFister, boot in live mode and see with gparted or fdisk
[23:41] <noche> Does anyboyd have any ideas what I could do?
[23:41] <ac_slater> Jordan_U: and I cant change the background .... this is fishy
[23:41] <sisterFister> OerHeks: i did ctrl alt f1, how do i get back to where i was?
[23:41] <mr-rich-76> Dr_Willis: lemme check ...
[23:41] <OerHeks> ctrl + alt + F7
[23:41] <sisterFister> nvm got it OerHeks
[23:42] <mr-rich-76> Dr_Willis: It worked ok until I upgraded to 13.10
[23:42] <Jordan_U> sisterFister: Is there no drive listed, or is the drive listed as being completely unallocated?
[23:42] <sisterFister> Jordan_U: there is no drive listed.
[23:42] <Biafra> Anyone know how to get sound working on a Ubuntu virtualbox guest?
[23:43] <Jordan_U> sisterFister: What is the output of "cat /proc/partitions"?
[23:44] <Jordan_U> sisterFister: Please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com rather than pasting to the channel.
[23:44] <x_root> hello guys
[23:44] <x_root> i'm uninstalling a bad isntalation of windows and installing ubuntu 13.10
[23:45] <x_root> but i have a files directory (sda3 nw)
[23:45] <x_root> can i just '-' the windows partitions and install ubuntu in the free space? what sould i do then?
[23:47] <ac_slater> Jordan_U: ah could it be that using a different version of GLib (other than the one installed) messes up permissions/whatever on some .gconf things ?
[23:55] <vmussa> hello, everyone, I think I ruined my 3d graphics
[23:55] <vmussa> I have a NVIDIA geforce 310m, and I'm trying to find drivers for the 3d to come back to work
[23:56] <vmussa> after I installed bumblebee - which I was not supposed to, since I don't have a optimus technology laptop and I didn't know that - everything got messed up
[23:56] <vmussa> I think it installed another driver
[23:57] <vmussa> I tried to switch to different drivers (304 and 319) and Unity looks the same strange thing
[23:57] <vmussa> is there a way to restart everything other than installing ubuntu again?
[23:58] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[23:58] <noche> Good afternoon. I am having trouble booting to Ubuntu in a dual-boot situation. Is there a way to edit /etc/default/grub without running update-grub?
[23:58] <mr-rich-76> Dr_Willis: Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[23:58] <sisterFister> Anyone have any ideas as to why my SSD isn't detected when I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on it using a USB stick? The Disk Utility only shows the 8gb usb stick and not the SSD
[23:59] <MrSassyPants> which is the config dir now, /etc/squid or /etc/squid3 ?