| ochosi | well i also need to rebuild the greeter | 00:00 |
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| brainwash | however, you did not notice the flicker anyway, so you won't see any difference | 00:00 |
| brainwash | or? | 00:00 |
| ochosi | well i see *some* screen-corruption | 00:00 |
| ochosi | it's not a clearly grey background | 00:00 |
| ochosi | so i can see whether your patch improves my situation | 00:01 |
| ochosi | i assume it works for you? | 00:01 |
| brainwash | uhm, I did not test this patch in particular | 00:02 |
| ochosi | you mean you didn't test your own patch? :D | 00:02 |
| brainwash | I messed around with the code and created the patch afterwards from scratch | 00:04 |
| brainwash | the idea is still the same | 00:04 |
| ochosi | well i'd say it's more useful if *you* test it than if *i* do | 00:05 |
| ochosi | :) | 00:05 |
| brainwash | yeah, I guess | 00:06 |
| brainwash | didn't want to release a diff of my local greeter copy | 00:07 |
| ochosi | and anyway, posting patches that you didnt test yourself is only useful if you can't reproduce a bug | 00:07 |
| ochosi | sure, but why not clean it up locally and test it before uploading the patch to lp? | 00:07 |
| brainwash | it's not meant to be a final patch, work in progress | 00:08 |
| ochosi | sure, still | 00:08 |
| brainwash | I'll test it, it's nothing complex anyway and the idea should be clear | 00:09 |
| ochosi | yup | 00:09 |
| ochosi | agreed to that | 00:09 |
| brainwash | but still, it will only work if the user actually uses the lightdm gtk greeter | 00:10 |
| ochosi | yeah, but i thought we're trying to resolve this specifically for xubuntu | 00:10 |
| ochosi | then we can see whether other distros pick it up | 00:10 |
| jjfrv8 | ochosi, bluesabre, slickymaster, just to nail down this screenshot thing, I thought I would note all the details in a draft on the wiki. http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=playground:sceenshot-stds | 00:13 |
| jjfrv8 | Judging by what's been discussed so far, I think the only thing left to decide is whether to use a custom highlight color or not. | 00:14 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: well done! | 00:14 |
| jjfrv8 | I was using a darker color than the default to try to make it match the xfce stuff a little closer. | 00:14 |
| ochosi | yeah, i don't have a particular preference here. but if we do use a custom highlight-color, we should note it's hex-color-value so ppl without gtk-theme-config can easily reproduce it | 00:14 |
| jjfrv8 | good point | 00:15 |
| * Unit193 wonders if he should get brainwash to figure out the bug he found with xfwm. | 00:16 | |
| pleia2 | oh goodie, will brainwash fix all the things? | 00:18 |
| jjfrv8 | bluesabre, if you can give us your vote on the draft, then I guess we can proceed. Tell me if I'm off base about the file size thing, too. | 00:18 |
| * ochosi hopes so | 00:18 | |
| bluesabre | I certainly hope that brainwash takes the title "official fixer" | 00:18 |
| bluesabre | jjfrv8: yeah, I wonder if we should have the latest elementary-xfce and greybird for best support? | 00:20 |
| bluesabre | ochosi ^ | 00:20 |
| brainwash | tzzzz | 00:22 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: latest as opposed to what? version from S? | 00:22 |
| brainwash | ochosi: ok, tested now | 00:22 |
| ochosi | brainwash: so it works? | 00:22 |
| brainwash | it appears to work | 00:22 |
| bluesabre | maybe, I know the icon theme at least has minor fixes like document-open-symbolic, repeat, shuffle | 00:23 |
| ochosi | hm true | 00:23 |
| ochosi | then let's use the git-version always | 00:23 |
| brainwash | ochosi: well, no compile errors and so on, and no flicker after login | 00:23 |
| ochosi | parole will always be a first-class citizen in elementary-xfce anyways | 00:23 |
| ochosi | brainwash: sounds promising! | 00:23 |
| ochosi | brainwash: i'll give it a shot asap then | 00:23 |
| brainwash | no need to hurry | 00:24 |
| bluesabre | shimmer-project daily ppa? https://launchpad.net/~shimmerproject/+archive/daily | 00:24 |
| Unit193 | Anyway, to get it in the devel channel rather than offtopic (since it's now not just a crazy me issue.) Clicking and holding onto minimize then hitting alt+tab makes xfwm hang. | 00:25 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: +1 | 00:26 |
| brainwash | holding minimize.. why would you do that? :D | 00:26 |
| bluesabre | oh, nice find Unit193 | 00:27 |
| bluesabre | and darn it, you froze my xfwm | 00:27 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Actually, I even dragged it to the center of the screen then hit alt+tab the first time. :P Answer: I don't exactly know, it was late at night and I didn't want to minimize it anymore. | 00:27 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: TTY, killall and it'll respawn fine. | 00:27 |
| brainwash | it does not freeze for me | 00:27 |
| ochosi | brainwash: how does the compile-option for xfwm4 look like exactly? | 00:28 |
| brainwash | ochosi: config.h, #define MONITOR_ROOT_PIXMAP 1 | 00:31 |
| ochosi | ok, will see whether it changes anything for me | 00:32 |
| ochosi | brb | 00:33 |
| ochosi | brainwash: doesn't seem to work for me. i can in fact see the grey bg now :) | 00:36 |
| ochosi | but it might be due to other components being from git, like xfdesktop etc | 00:37 |
| ochosi | anyway, time to go to sleep | 00:38 |
| ochosi | night everyone! | 00:38 |
| brainwash | good night | 00:38 |
| jjfrv8 | night, ochosi | 00:38 |
| ochosi | brainwash: as soon as i get a chance, i'll re-test this in a cleaner env | 00:38 |
| ochosi | (might not be tomorrow though) | 00:38 |
| brainwash | ochosi: make sure #define MONITOR_ROOT_PIXMAP 1 does not get overwritten | 00:38 |
| ochosi | well yeah, just now it becomes clear to me that editing config.h is pointless | 00:39 |
| brainwash | it's a generated file :D | 00:40 |
| ochosi | yeah | 00:40 |
| ochosi | see, i'm too tired for this s*** | 00:40 |
| brainwash | Unit193: oh right, I'm using a custom built xfwm4 version, maybe that's the reason I cannot reproduce the freeze | 00:42 |
| ochosi | brainwash: so why not add to the bugreport how to build xfwm4 exactly so that also tired ppl can do it? :] | 00:46 |
| brainwash | read the autotools manual :) | 00:47 |
| brainwash | maybe that a good opportunity for me to learn how to setup a PPA | 00:48 |
| brainwash | mmh | 00:48 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Rolling from git right? So pointless to report as it's already fixored. Gotcha. | 01:09 |
| brainwash | Unit193: probably, well, go ahead and test it | 01:10 |
| brainwash | Unit193: default xfwm4 shipped by saucy does not freeze either | 01:19 |
| brainwash | I clicked on the minimize button and kept holding it while triggering alt-tab, nothing special happened | 01:21 |
| Unit193 | Got 2 people to confirm, 2 people deny. >_< | 01:24 |
| brainwash | the usual procedure would be to check log files | 01:28 |
| Unit193 | brainwash: Yeeep. dmesg, syslog, xsession-errors, and startxfce said nothing. | 02:28 |
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| Unit193 | brainwash: As of late, suspend in Xfce somehow hasn't actually suspended the system, but pm-suspend works and resumes correctly it'd seem. | 08:02 |
| Unit193 | Calling it over login1: Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Failed: Operation already in progress | 08:04 |
| slickymaster | good morning all | 09:58 |
| knome | morning slickymaster | 10:05 |
| slickymaster | knome: hi, good morning | 10:05 |
| brainwash | Unit193: right, that's bug 1184262 which nobody is able to fix, not even the mighty pitti (he isn't affected by the issue though) | 10:34 |
| ubottu | bug 1184262 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "[logind] stuck in PrepareForSleep, causing network and other services to not resume" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1184262 | 10:34 |
| slickymaster | ochosi, jjfrv8, bluesabre, I've been through yesterday's log and it seems that there are no final conclusions on what theme and icons to use for http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=usage | 10:42 |
| jjfrv8 | slickymaster, I think the theme and icons have been decided on. We just need bluesabre to weigh in on the custom highlight color. | 12:50 |
| jjfrv8 | slickymaster, and bluesabre wants us to use the PPA that I put in the draft screenshot standardization document: http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=playground:sceenshot-stds | 12:53 |
| jjfrv8 | And slickymaster, can you put your usage draft here? http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=playground:slickymaster | 13:09 |
| jjfrv8 | instead of on the main wiki page. | 13:09 |
| jjfrv8 | We can combine yours and mine later after they are reviewed. | 13:10 |
| jjfrv8 | but upload your screenshots to root>wiki>usage-menu-items. That way we won't have to move them later when we move the doc pages. | 13:13 |
| jjfrv8 | does that make sense? | 13:13 |
| brainwash | interesting request bug 1245870 | 14:21 |
| ubottu | bug 1245870 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 13.10 should be upgraded to LTS status" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1245870 | 14:21 |
| slickymaster | jjfrv8: absolutely. It's clear as water :) | 14:28 |
| slickymaster | jjfrv8, bluesabre, as soon as bluesabre has a decision on the custom highlight color we're good to go | 14:30 |
| jjfrv8 | yup | 14:31 |
| jjfrv8 | slickymaster, bluesabre, per ochosi's recommendation, I listed the custom highlight color number in the draft standards doc. | 14:46 |
| slickymaster | jjfrv8: you'll have to send me the url to the draft standards doc | 14:47 |
| jjfrv8 | slickymaster, http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=playground:sceenshot-stds | 14:48 |
| slickymaster | jjfrv8: oh, I see. Thanks a bunch | 14:49 |
| jjfrv8 | np | 14:49 |
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| knome | bluesabre, you around? | 21:08 |
| knome | ochosi, ? | 21:15 |
| bluesabre | slickymaster, jjfrv8; I'm cool with the highlight color, I'll try to update my screenshots accordingly | 22:10 |
| bluesabre | knome: yes | 22:10 |
| knome | bluesabre, i commented on the bug and then noticed you had noticed the same thing and went over it in #shimmer. so nevermind | 22:14 |
| bluesabre | ah | 22:14 |
| bluesabre | which bug? | 22:14 |
| Unit193 | The fun ones, Bug 1245355 | 22:14 |
| ubottu | bug 1245355 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "New pop-up notification panel triggered by xfce4-display-settings blocks view and access" [Wishlist,Opinion] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1245355 | 22:14 |
| bluesabre | ah | 22:15 |
| bluesabre | yeah, I'll try to get an upstream fix on that today or tomorrow | 22:15 |
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