[00:00] well i also need to rebuild the greeter [00:00] however, you did not notice the flicker anyway, so you won't see any difference [00:00] or? [00:00] well i see *some* screen-corruption [00:00] it's not a clearly grey background [00:01] so i can see whether your patch improves my situation [00:01] i assume it works for you? [00:02] uhm, I did not test this patch in particular [00:02] you mean you didn't test your own patch? :D [00:04] I messed around with the code and created the patch afterwards from scratch [00:04] the idea is still the same [00:05] well i'd say it's more useful if *you* test it than if *i* do [00:05] :) [00:06] yeah, I guess [00:07] didn't want to release a diff of my local greeter copy [00:07] and anyway, posting patches that you didnt test yourself is only useful if you can't reproduce a bug [00:07] sure, but why not clean it up locally and test it before uploading the patch to lp? [00:08] it's not meant to be a final patch, work in progress [00:08] sure, still [00:09] I'll test it, it's nothing complex anyway and the idea should be clear [00:09] yup [00:09] agreed to that [00:10] but still, it will only work if the user actually uses the lightdm gtk greeter [00:10] yeah, but i thought we're trying to resolve this specifically for xubuntu [00:10] then we can see whether other distros pick it up [00:13] ochosi, bluesabre, slickymaster, just to nail down this screenshot thing, I thought I would note all the details in a draft on the wiki. http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=playground:sceenshot-stds [00:14] Judging by what's been discussed so far, I think the only thing left to decide is whether to use a custom highlight color or not. [00:14] jjfrv8: well done! [00:14] I was using a darker color than the default to try to make it match the xfce stuff a little closer. [00:14] yeah, i don't have a particular preference here. but if we do use a custom highlight-color, we should note it's hex-color-value so ppl without gtk-theme-config can easily reproduce it [00:15] good point [00:16] * Unit193 wonders if he should get brainwash to figure out the bug he found with xfwm. [00:18] oh goodie, will brainwash fix all the things? [00:18] bluesabre, if you can give us your vote on the draft, then I guess we can proceed. Tell me if I'm off base about the file size thing, too. [00:18] * ochosi hopes so [00:18] I certainly hope that brainwash takes the title "official fixer" [00:20] jjfrv8: yeah, I wonder if we should have the latest elementary-xfce and greybird for best support? [00:20] ochosi ^ [00:22] tzzzz [00:22] bluesabre: latest as opposed to what? version from S? [00:22] ochosi: ok, tested now [00:22] brainwash: so it works? [00:22] it appears to work [00:23] maybe, I know the icon theme at least has minor fixes like document-open-symbolic, repeat, shuffle [00:23] hm true [00:23] then let's use the git-version always [00:23] ochosi: well, no compile errors and so on, and no flicker after login [00:23] parole will always be a first-class citizen in elementary-xfce anyways [00:23] brainwash: sounds promising! [00:23] brainwash: i'll give it a shot asap then [00:24] no need to hurry [00:24] shimmer-project daily ppa? https://launchpad.net/~shimmerproject/+archive/daily [00:25] Anyway, to get it in the devel channel rather than offtopic (since it's now not just a crazy me issue.) Clicking and holding onto minimize then hitting alt+tab makes xfwm hang. [00:26] bluesabre: +1 [00:26] holding minimize.. why would you do that? :D [00:27] oh, nice find Unit193 [00:27] and darn it, you froze my xfwm [00:27] brainwash: Actually, I even dragged it to the center of the screen then hit alt+tab the first time. :P Answer: I don't exactly know, it was late at night and I didn't want to minimize it anymore. [00:27] bluesabre: TTY, killall and it'll respawn fine. [00:27] it does not freeze for me [00:28] brainwash: how does the compile-option for xfwm4 look like exactly? [00:31] ochosi: config.h, #define MONITOR_ROOT_PIXMAP 1 [00:32] ok, will see whether it changes anything for me [00:33] brb [00:36] brainwash: doesn't seem to work for me. i can in fact see the grey bg now :) [00:37] but it might be due to other components being from git, like xfdesktop etc [00:38] anyway, time to go to sleep [00:38] night everyone! [00:38] good night [00:38] night, ochosi [00:38] brainwash: as soon as i get a chance, i'll re-test this in a cleaner env [00:38] (might not be tomorrow though) [00:38] ochosi: make sure #define MONITOR_ROOT_PIXMAP 1 does not get overwritten [00:39] well yeah, just now it becomes clear to me that editing config.h is pointless [00:40] it's a generated file :D [00:40] yeah [00:40] see, i'm too tired for this s*** [00:42] Unit193: oh right, I'm using a custom built xfwm4 version, maybe that's the reason I cannot reproduce the freeze [00:46] brainwash: so why not add to the bugreport how to build xfwm4 exactly so that also tired ppl can do it? :] [00:47] read the autotools manual :) [00:48] maybe that a good opportunity for me to learn how to setup a PPA [00:48] mmh [01:09] brainwash: Rolling from git right? So pointless to report as it's already fixored. Gotcha. [01:10] Unit193: probably, well, go ahead and test it [01:19] Unit193: default xfwm4 shipped by saucy does not freeze either [01:21] I clicked on the minimize button and kept holding it while triggering alt-tab, nothing special happened [01:24] Got 2 people to confirm, 2 people deny. >_< [01:28] the usual procedure would be to check log files [02:28] brainwash: Yeeep. dmesg, syslog, xsession-errors, and startxfce said nothing. === forestpiskie is now known as Guest16550 === Guest16550 is now known as forestpiskie [08:02] brainwash: As of late, suspend in Xfce somehow hasn't actually suspended the system, but pm-suspend works and resumes correctly it'd seem. [08:04] Calling it over login1: Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Failed: Operation already in progress [09:58] good morning all [10:05] morning slickymaster [10:05] knome: hi, good morning [10:34] Unit193: right, that's bug 1184262 which nobody is able to fix, not even the mighty pitti (he isn't affected by the issue though) [10:34] bug 1184262 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "[logind] stuck in PrepareForSleep, causing network and other services to not resume" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1184262 [10:42] ochosi, jjfrv8, bluesabre, I've been through yesterday's log and it seems that there are no final conclusions on what theme and icons to use for http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=usage [12:50] slickymaster, I think the theme and icons have been decided on. We just need bluesabre to weigh in on the custom highlight color. [12:53] slickymaster, and bluesabre wants us to use the PPA that I put in the draft screenshot standardization document: http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=playground:sceenshot-stds [13:09] And slickymaster, can you put your usage draft here? http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=playground:slickymaster [13:09] instead of on the main wiki page. [13:10] We can combine yours and mine later after they are reviewed. [13:13] but upload your screenshots to root>wiki>usage-menu-items. That way we won't have to move them later when we move the doc pages. [13:13] does that make sense? [14:21] interesting request bug 1245870 [14:21] bug 1245870 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 13.10 should be upgraded to LTS status" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1245870 [14:28] jjfrv8: absolutely. It's clear as water :) [14:30] jjfrv8, bluesabre, as soon as bluesabre has a decision on the custom highlight color we're good to go [14:31] yup [14:46] slickymaster, bluesabre, per ochosi's recommendation, I listed the custom highlight color number in the draft standards doc. [14:47] jjfrv8: you'll have to send me the url to the draft standards doc [14:48] slickymaster, http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=playground:sceenshot-stds [14:49] jjfrv8: oh, I see. Thanks a bunch [14:49] np === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash === hobgoblin is now known as elfy [21:08] bluesabre, you around? [21:15] ochosi, ? [22:10] slickymaster, jjfrv8; I'm cool with the highlight color, I'll try to update my screenshots accordingly [22:10] knome: yes [22:14] bluesabre, i commented on the bug and then noticed you had noticed the same thing and went over it in #shimmer. so nevermind [22:14] ah [22:14] which bug? [22:14] The fun ones, Bug 1245355 [22:14] bug 1245355 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "New pop-up notification panel triggered by xfce4-display-settings blocks view and access" [Wishlist,Opinion] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1245355 [22:15] ah [22:15] yeah, I'll try to get an upstream fix on that today or tomorrow === Punna is now known as Pwnna