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seb128k, so I'm going to do it00:00
LaneyI was just going to say that I asked them in the MP to contact the SRU team to see if that kind of thing is ok00:00
seb128I've already commited ot the current vcs00:00
Laneydoes the bug have the right info?00:00
seb128the SRU branch is targetting the wrong Vcs00:00
seb128I want to ask them to fix it00:00
seb128but I want the vcs to be updated first00:00
seb128to not have to ask them to rebase later00:00
seb128I'm going to ask about the SRU details at the same time I ask them to fix the vcs00:01
Laneyright, pushed00:02
seb128thanks00:02
LaneyI changed the changelog message in the one you pushed to trunk btw00:02
seb128bbiab00:02
Laneydon't like it saying stuff about OEM partners00:02
seb128ok00:02
seb128ok, done here, I'm coming back to the desktop room, see you in a bit00:02
Laneyk00:03
xclaesseis there a reason why language-pack-gnome-fr-base is still installing evolution-3.6.mo instead of 3.8 ?00:04
xclaesseok it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/123852100:09
ubot2Launchpad bug 1238521 in Ubuntu Translations "Evolution is not localized in Ubuntu 13.10" [High,New]00:09
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Laneydidrocks: robru: mterry: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/libunity-webapps/webbrowser-app_to_suggests/+merge/18628401:03
LaneyI suggest reverting that rather than seeding01:03
Laneyit broke image builds at the time01:04
Laneyso we had to do that01:04
mterrydidrocks, robru ^01:04
mterryoh heh01:04
mterryI'm an idiot01:05
Laneyhur de hur01:05
robrulol01:06
robrudidrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/libunity-webapps/require-webapps/+merge/19317301:10
seb128_xclaesse, @evolution: the new template didn't get imported, I'm fixing it01:13
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xclaesseseb128, cool, thanks :)01:13
xclaesseseb128, speaking about evolution, google email configured in UOA still doesn't work... is that known?01:15
xclaesseI get "Data source '<user>@gmail.com' does not support OAuth 2.0 authentication"01:15
xclaessehad to reconfigure my email account in evo instead of using uoa for that01:16
seb128xclaesse, yeah, oauth 2.0 has just been added in the newer version and we don't have it yet in Ubuntu, we are going to look at fixing it soon01:17
xclaesseseb128, was working in 13.0401:17
xclaesseit regressed in 13.1001:17
seb128xclaesse, no, 13.04 was using goa01:17
seb128xclaesse, you can remove evolution-data-server-uoa01:18
seb128that should work like in 13.04 then01:18
xclaesseah, maybe I was using a ppa for that actually01:18
xclaesseseb128, I don't have evolution-data-server-uoa, it got removed at some point in 13.10 dev01:19
Laneyyes01:20
LaneyWe'll add it back with 3.1001:20
seb128pitti_, we had an outdated evolution template in saucy (evolution-3.6), I just approved evolution-3.8 from the launchpad UI ... is that going to make it to langpack updates in saucy or do we need manual tweaks to get that in?01:25
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yookoalahello13:16
yookoalaI'm making an icon for an input method. Is there any specification or documentation I can refer to?13:17
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tkamppeterlarsu, hi14:05
larsutkamppeter: hi Till, how are you?14:30
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tkamppeterlarsu, hi, can you have a look at bug 1196986? The Japanese OpenPrinting guys are waiting. Thanks.16:45
ubot2Launchpad bug 1196986 in cups-filters (Ubuntu) "bannertopdf can't handle Japanese characters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119698616:45
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Laneyseb128: do we have any saucy branches for SRUs?17:15
seb128Laney, no, not worth it on non LTS series17:15
Laneyk17:15
seb128Laney, want to SRU something?17:15
Laneymaybe17:15
kenvandinempt, do you have a few minutes to chat about the background panel?17:20
mptyes17:20
kenvandineExcellent, I'll come and find you17:22
kenvandineseb128, ^^17:23
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Laneywhy don't we have the games on powerpc?18:45
Laneyoh, huh, I guess it doesn't matter if we dropped the images18:46
Laneyseeding cheese btw as discussed yesterday18:46
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mptdidrocks, do you have five minutes to review Bruno's patch attached to bug 1165104?21:29
ubot2Launchpad bug 1165104 in oneconf (Ubuntu) "oneconf is only showing the pc you are on in raring and isn't sharing to other machines" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116510421:29
didrocksmpt: are we sure that the server is still running/working?21:44
mptdidrocks, the two screenshots in bug 1165104 were taken in the same minute. If the server shut down between them, that's an impressive coincidence.21:46
ubot2Launchpad bug 1165104 in oneconf (Ubuntu) "oneconf is only showing the pc you are on in raring and isn't sharing to other machines" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116510421:46
didrocksmpt: ok, I'll review that then21:46
mptthanks :-)21:46
didrocksmpt: thanks for the head's up :)21:46
GunnarHjattente: ping?21:54
attenteGunnarHj, hey22:07
attentebschaefer, js/ui/shellDBus.js in gnome-shell22:07
robert_ancelldbarth, have you tested remote login with the guest apparmor fix?22:07
attentebschaefer, also, if you want to know how mutter is emitting the accelerator-activated signal, there's meta_display_accelerator_activate () in src/core/display.c in mutter22:11
bschaeferattente, cool thanks, ill have to take a look22:11
dbarthrobert_ancell: still not yet sorry22:21
dbarthand i had to remove the package to build another thing that was breaking with the -dev packages for lightdm-gobject22:21
dbarthso i need to re-verify my setup before testing22:21
GunnarHjattente: Hi, can we talk about bug 1240058?22:31
ubot2Launchpad bug 1240058 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "UI uses chinese, french and english simultaneously" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124005822:31
attenteGunnarHj, sure22:32
attentei don't really know what the right thing is to do there though22:32
GunnarHjattente: When we talked about it the other day, you expressed some doubt about modifying accountsservice to fix it. Why?22:33
LaneyIt might be sensible to add API rather than changing what we have22:33
attenteGunnarHj, not opposed to modifying the language tools22:33
attentebut having them behave differently depending on platform? maybe22:34
attentei think Laney has the right idea22:34
GunnarHjattente: We will need to make a-s behave differently depending on platform anyway (Ubuntu vs Xubuntu and Lubuntu).22:35
GunnarHjattente: What's Laney's idea?22:35
attenteGunnarHj, right, but we could've done that by functionality rather than by environment22:35
attenteadding a different method that explicitly sets the language without adding it to the fallback list22:36
LaneyProvide enough API so that frontends can themselves decide what to do22:36
Laneyit's wrong to do it inside AS22:36
GunnarHjattente, Laney: Aha, you would prefer a new method?22:37
Laneyyes22:37
attente+1, although i don't know what it should look like22:38
GunnarHjLaney, attente: I would like to think about it for day or two, with that idea in mind.22:38
attentei think what would've been nice is to have set_language and add_language as separate methods, but we can't do that now22:39
GunnarHjattente: Why not?22:39
LaneyI think SetLanguage is already provided upstream and we just modify it to also write to ~/.pam_environment?22:39
Laneybut yeah it'd be bad to break the contract22:39
LaneyNot the nicest API, I can't even tell where the priority list comes from there22:40
GunnarHjLaney: It's my fault. ;-)22:40
attenteLaney, the language-tools do a check to see if there's a colon in the value22:40
attenteif there is, it appends22:40
attenteif not, it just sets it, iirc22:40
Laneyoh22:40
Laneyyeah, that's a bit buried22:40
GunnarHjLaney, attente: There are a reason for everything, but indeed, adding a new method is possible. The method for setting format is not there in the original a-s either, but it's an Ubuntu special.22:42
LaneyI think that one is OK22:43
LaneyIt's just the bit with the priority list22:43
attentewe could try a method that only clears LANGUAGE22:43
Laneywhich is SetLanguage AFAIK22:43
attentethen on u-s-s, make sure we call that clear, before doing the set22:44
attentei don't know what the repercussions of having an empty LANGUAGE are, if somebody decides to clear and not set it to something meaningful22:44
GunnarHjLaney: As long as language-selector is in use (by somebody) we need to deal with the priority list as well. That's why my first thought was to make a-s deal with it conditionally when calling SetLanguage.22:45
LaneyYeah, that's why I'm proposing not changing it22:45
GunnarHjattente: Do you mean that u-s-s would first call the SetLanguage method, which does something with LANGUAGE in ~/.pam_environment, and then immediatedly removes the LANGUAGE line? Sounds a little clumsy to me.22:48
attenteGunnarHj, no, i'm thinking u-s-s first calls a ClearLanguage method, followed by SetLanguage22:48
attentebecause that would allow u-s-s to set one single language, even if the semantics of SetLanguage are to add it to a list22:49
attentebut i'm not sure about having a ClearLanguage method either tbh22:50
Laneythat or SetLiteralLanguage or something22:50
LaneyGunnarHj: larsu says that upstream is looking for a solution to this btw, so you might want to have a chat with them22:50
Laneythen we could do this there22:50
larsuGunnarHj: ya, stef walters is the guy to talk to22:50
larsustefw on gimpnet22:50
GunnarHjLaney, larsu: Which upstream are you talking about? GNOME or Debian?22:51
LaneyAccoutnsservice22:51
Laneywith correct spelling22:51
larsuGNOME22:52
GunnarHjLaney: Sure, but the ultimate accountsservice is GNOME, while Debian is also involved in Ubuntu.22:52
GunnarHjlarsu22:53
Laneyyes22:53
GunnarHjlarsu: Thanks, I'll talk to stef walters then, to see what the plans are.22:53
LaneyAAAAAAAaaaaanyway, for now one of the two proposed methods should work, and for the long run someone ought to work with upstream to do it properly there22:54
LaneyIMO22:54
GunnarHjLaney: I agree wholeheartedly. Problem is that GNOME hasn't been very interested in listening to special requirements from distros.22:55
LaneyIt's worth explaining our requirements and having the conversation22:56
Laneysounds like stefw is keen to have it fixed there, so there's a good chance22:56
GunnarHjLaney: Ok, hopefully you are right.22:56
Laneyoptimism!22:56
GunnarHj;-)22:57

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