[00:00] k, so I'm going to do it [00:00] I was just going to say that I asked them in the MP to contact the SRU team to see if that kind of thing is ok [00:00] I've already commited ot the current vcs [00:00] does the bug have the right info? [00:00] the SRU branch is targetting the wrong Vcs [00:00] I want to ask them to fix it [00:00] but I want the vcs to be updated first [00:00] to not have to ask them to rebase later [00:01] I'm going to ask about the SRU details at the same time I ask them to fix the vcs [00:02] right, pushed [00:02] thanks [00:02] I changed the changelog message in the one you pushed to trunk btw [00:02] bbiab [00:02] don't like it saying stuff about OEM partners [00:02] ok [00:02] ok, done here, I'm coming back to the desktop room, see you in a bit [00:03] k [00:04] is there a reason why language-pack-gnome-fr-base is still installing evolution-3.6.mo instead of 3.8 ? [00:09] ok it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/1238521 [00:09] Launchpad bug 1238521 in Ubuntu Translations "Evolution is not localized in Ubuntu 13.10" [High,New] === infinity_ is now known as infinity [01:03] didrocks: robru: mterry: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/libunity-webapps/webbrowser-app_to_suggests/+merge/186284 [01:03] I suggest reverting that rather than seeding [01:04] it broke image builds at the time [01:04] so we had to do that [01:04] didrocks, robru ^ [01:04] oh heh [01:05] I'm an idiot [01:05] hur de hur [01:06] lol [01:10] didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/libunity-webapps/require-webapps/+merge/193173 [01:13] xclaesse, @evolution: the new template didn't get imported, I'm fixing it === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [01:13] seb128, cool, thanks :) [01:15] seb128, speaking about evolution, google email configured in UOA still doesn't work... is that known? [01:15] I get "Data source '@gmail.com' does not support OAuth 2.0 authentication" [01:16] had to reconfigure my email account in evo instead of using uoa for that [01:17] xclaesse, yeah, oauth 2.0 has just been added in the newer version and we don't have it yet in Ubuntu, we are going to look at fixing it soon [01:17] seb128, was working in 13.04 [01:17] it regressed in 13.10 [01:17] xclaesse, no, 13.04 was using goa [01:18] xclaesse, you can remove evolution-data-server-uoa [01:18] that should work like in 13.04 then [01:18] ah, maybe I was using a ppa for that actually [01:19] seb128, I don't have evolution-data-server-uoa, it got removed at some point in 13.10 dev [01:20] yes [01:20] We'll add it back with 3.10 [01:25] pitti_, we had an outdated evolution template in saucy (evolution-3.6), I just approved evolution-3.8 from the launchpad UI ... is that going to make it to langpack updates in saucy or do we need manual tweaks to get that in? === Mapley is now known as letmechangemynic === letmechangemynic is now known as Mapley === pitti_ is now known as pitti === duflu_ is now known as duflu === tkamppeter__ is now known as tkamppeter === alf_ is now known as alf|upgrade === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g === alf|upgrade is now known as alf_ === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [13:16] hello [13:17] I'm making an icon for an input method. Is there any specification or documentation I can refer to? === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:05] larsu, hi [14:30] tkamppeter: hi Till, how are you? === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|bbl === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [16:45] larsu, hi, can you have a look at bug 1196986? The Japanese OpenPrinting guys are waiting. Thanks. [16:45] Launchpad bug 1196986 in cups-filters (Ubuntu) "bannertopdf can't handle Japanese characters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196986 === pstolowski|bbl is now known as pstolowski [17:15] seb128: do we have any saucy branches for SRUs? [17:15] Laney, no, not worth it on non LTS series [17:15] k [17:15] Laney, want to SRU something? [17:15] maybe [17:20] mpt, do you have a few minutes to chat about the background panel? [17:20] yes [17:22] Excellent, I'll come and find you [17:23] seb128, ^^ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:45] why don't we have the games on powerpc? [18:46] oh, huh, I guess it doesn't matter if we dropped the images [18:46] seeding cheese btw as discussed yesterday === ChrisTownsend1 is now known as ChrisTownsend [21:29] didrocks, do you have five minutes to review Bruno's patch attached to bug 1165104? [21:29] Launchpad bug 1165104 in oneconf (Ubuntu) "oneconf is only showing the pc you are on in raring and isn't sharing to other machines" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1165104 [21:44] mpt: are we sure that the server is still running/working? [21:46] didrocks, the two screenshots in bug 1165104 were taken in the same minute. If the server shut down between them, that's an impressive coincidence. [21:46] Launchpad bug 1165104 in oneconf (Ubuntu) "oneconf is only showing the pc you are on in raring and isn't sharing to other machines" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1165104 [21:46] mpt: ok, I'll review that then [21:46] thanks :-) [21:46] mpt: thanks for the head's up :) [21:54] attente: ping? [22:07] GunnarHj, hey [22:07] bschaefer, js/ui/shellDBus.js in gnome-shell [22:07] dbarth, have you tested remote login with the guest apparmor fix? [22:11] bschaefer, also, if you want to know how mutter is emitting the accelerator-activated signal, there's meta_display_accelerator_activate () in src/core/display.c in mutter [22:11] attente, cool thanks, ill have to take a look [22:21] robert_ancell: still not yet sorry [22:21] and i had to remove the package to build another thing that was breaking with the -dev packages for lightdm-gobject [22:21] so i need to re-verify my setup before testing [22:31] attente: Hi, can we talk about bug 1240058? [22:31] Launchpad bug 1240058 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "UI uses chinese, french and english simultaneously" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1240058 [22:32] GunnarHj, sure [22:32] i don't really know what the right thing is to do there though [22:33] attente: When we talked about it the other day, you expressed some doubt about modifying accountsservice to fix it. Why? [22:33] It might be sensible to add API rather than changing what we have [22:33] GunnarHj, not opposed to modifying the language tools [22:34] but having them behave differently depending on platform? maybe [22:34] i think Laney has the right idea [22:35] attente: We will need to make a-s behave differently depending on platform anyway (Ubuntu vs Xubuntu and Lubuntu). [22:35] attente: What's Laney's idea? [22:35] GunnarHj, right, but we could've done that by functionality rather than by environment [22:36] adding a different method that explicitly sets the language without adding it to the fallback list [22:36] Provide enough API so that frontends can themselves decide what to do [22:36] it's wrong to do it inside AS [22:37] attente, Laney: Aha, you would prefer a new method? [22:37] yes [22:38] +1, although i don't know what it should look like [22:38] Laney, attente: I would like to think about it for day or two, with that idea in mind. [22:39] i think what would've been nice is to have set_language and add_language as separate methods, but we can't do that now [22:39] attente: Why not? [22:39] I think SetLanguage is already provided upstream and we just modify it to also write to ~/.pam_environment? [22:39] but yeah it'd be bad to break the contract [22:40] Not the nicest API, I can't even tell where the priority list comes from there [22:40] Laney: It's my fault. ;-) [22:40] Laney, the language-tools do a check to see if there's a colon in the value [22:40] if there is, it appends [22:40] if not, it just sets it, iirc [22:40] oh [22:40] yeah, that's a bit buried [22:42] Laney, attente: There are a reason for everything, but indeed, adding a new method is possible. The method for setting format is not there in the original a-s either, but it's an Ubuntu special. [22:43] I think that one is OK [22:43] It's just the bit with the priority list [22:43] we could try a method that only clears LANGUAGE [22:43] which is SetLanguage AFAIK [22:44] then on u-s-s, make sure we call that clear, before doing the set [22:44] i don't know what the repercussions of having an empty LANGUAGE are, if somebody decides to clear and not set it to something meaningful [22:45] Laney: As long as language-selector is in use (by somebody) we need to deal with the priority list as well. That's why my first thought was to make a-s deal with it conditionally when calling SetLanguage. [22:45] Yeah, that's why I'm proposing not changing it [22:48] attente: Do you mean that u-s-s would first call the SetLanguage method, which does something with LANGUAGE in ~/.pam_environment, and then immediatedly removes the LANGUAGE line? Sounds a little clumsy to me. [22:48] GunnarHj, no, i'm thinking u-s-s first calls a ClearLanguage method, followed by SetLanguage [22:49] because that would allow u-s-s to set one single language, even if the semantics of SetLanguage are to add it to a list [22:50] but i'm not sure about having a ClearLanguage method either tbh [22:50] that or SetLiteralLanguage or something [22:50] GunnarHj: larsu says that upstream is looking for a solution to this btw, so you might want to have a chat with them [22:50] then we could do this there [22:50] GunnarHj: ya, stef walters is the guy to talk to [22:50] stefw on gimpnet [22:51] Laney, larsu: Which upstream are you talking about? GNOME or Debian? [22:51] Accoutnsservice [22:51] with correct spelling [22:52] GNOME [22:52] Laney: Sure, but the ultimate accountsservice is GNOME, while Debian is also involved in Ubuntu. [22:53] larsu [22:53] yes [22:53] larsu: Thanks, I'll talk to stef walters then, to see what the plans are. [22:54] AAAAAAAaaaaanyway, for now one of the two proposed methods should work, and for the long run someone ought to work with upstream to do it properly there [22:54] IMO [22:55] Laney: I agree wholeheartedly. Problem is that GNOME hasn't been very interested in listening to special requirements from distros. [22:56] It's worth explaining our requirements and having the conversation [22:56] sounds like stefw is keen to have it fixed there, so there's a good chance [22:56] Laney: Ok, hopefully you are right. [22:56] optimism! [22:57] ;-)