[00:00] <seb128> k, so I'm going to do it
[00:00] <Laney> I was just going to say that I asked them in the MP to contact the SRU team to see if that kind of thing is ok
[00:00] <seb128> I've already commited ot the current vcs
[00:00] <Laney> does the bug have the right info?
[00:00] <seb128> the SRU branch is targetting the wrong Vcs
[00:00] <seb128> I want to ask them to fix it
[00:00] <seb128> but I want the vcs to be updated first
[00:00] <seb128> to not have to ask them to rebase later
[00:01] <seb128> I'm going to ask about the SRU details at the same time I ask them to fix the vcs
[00:02] <Laney> right, pushed
[00:02] <seb128> thanks
[00:02] <Laney> I changed the changelog message in the one you pushed to trunk btw
[00:02] <seb128> bbiab
[00:02] <Laney> don't like it saying stuff about OEM partners
[00:02] <seb128> ok
[00:02] <seb128> ok, done here, I'm coming back to the desktop room, see you in a bit
[00:03] <Laney> k
[00:04] <xclaesse> is there a reason why language-pack-gnome-fr-base is still installing evolution-3.6.mo instead of 3.8 ?
[00:09] <xclaesse> ok it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/1238521
[00:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1238521 in Ubuntu Translations "Evolution is not localized in Ubuntu 13.10" [High,New]
[01:03] <Laney> didrocks: robru: mterry: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/libunity-webapps/webbrowser-app_to_suggests/+merge/186284
[01:03] <Laney> I suggest reverting that rather than seeding
[01:04] <Laney> it broke image builds at the time
[01:04] <Laney> so we had to do that
[01:04] <mterry> didrocks, robru ^
[01:04] <mterry> oh heh
[01:05] <mterry> I'm an idiot
[01:05] <Laney> hur de hur
[01:06] <robru> lol
[01:10] <robru> didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/libunity-webapps/require-webapps/+merge/193173
[01:13] <seb128_> xclaesse, @evolution: the new template didn't get imported, I'm fixing it
[01:13] <xclaesse> seb128, cool, thanks :)
[01:15] <xclaesse> seb128, speaking about evolution, google email configured in UOA still doesn't work... is that known?
[01:15] <xclaesse> I get "Data source '<user>@gmail.com' does not support OAuth 2.0 authentication"
[01:16] <xclaesse> had to reconfigure my email account in evo instead of using uoa for that
[01:17] <seb128> xclaesse, yeah, oauth 2.0 has just been added in the newer version and we don't have it yet in Ubuntu, we are going to look at fixing it soon
[01:17] <xclaesse> seb128, was working in 13.04
[01:17] <xclaesse> it regressed in 13.10
[01:17] <seb128> xclaesse, no, 13.04 was using goa
[01:18] <seb128> xclaesse, you can remove evolution-data-server-uoa
[01:18] <seb128> that should work like in 13.04 then
[01:18] <xclaesse> ah, maybe I was using a ppa for that actually
[01:19] <xclaesse> seb128, I don't have evolution-data-server-uoa, it got removed at some point in 13.10 dev
[01:20] <Laney> yes
[01:20] <Laney> We'll add it back with 3.10
[01:25] <seb128> pitti_, we had an outdated evolution template in saucy (evolution-3.6), I just approved evolution-3.8 from the launchpad UI ... is that going to make it to langpack updates in saucy or do we need manual tweaks to get that in?
[13:16] <yookoala> hello
[13:17] <yookoala> I'm making an icon for an input method. Is there any specification or documentation I can refer to?
[14:05] <tkamppeter> larsu, hi
[14:30] <larsu> tkamppeter: hi Till, how are you?
[16:45] <tkamppeter> larsu, hi, can you have a look at bug 1196986? The Japanese OpenPrinting guys are waiting. Thanks.
[16:45] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1196986 in cups-filters (Ubuntu) "bannertopdf can't handle Japanese characters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196986
[17:15] <Laney> seb128: do we have any saucy branches for SRUs?
[17:15] <seb128> Laney, no, not worth it on non LTS series
[17:15] <Laney> k
[17:15] <seb128> Laney, want to SRU something?
[17:15] <Laney> maybe
[17:20] <kenvandine> mpt, do you have a few minutes to chat about the background panel?
[17:20] <mpt> yes
[17:22] <kenvandine> Excellent, I'll come and find you
[17:23] <kenvandine> seb128, ^^
[18:45] <Laney> why don't we have the games on powerpc?
[18:46] <Laney> oh, huh, I guess it doesn't matter if we dropped the images
[18:46] <Laney> seeding cheese btw as discussed yesterday
[21:29] <mpt> didrocks, do you have five minutes to review Bruno's patch attached to bug 1165104?
[21:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1165104 in oneconf (Ubuntu) "oneconf is only showing the pc you are on in raring and isn't sharing to other machines" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1165104
[21:44] <didrocks> mpt: are we sure that the server is still running/working?
[21:46] <mpt> didrocks, the two screenshots in bug 1165104 were taken in the same minute. If the server shut down between them, that's an impressive coincidence.
[21:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1165104 in oneconf (Ubuntu) "oneconf is only showing the pc you are on in raring and isn't sharing to other machines" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1165104
[21:46] <didrocks> mpt: ok, I'll review that then
[21:46] <mpt> thanks :-)
[21:46] <didrocks> mpt: thanks for the head's up :)
[21:54] <GunnarHj> attente: ping?
[22:07] <attente> GunnarHj, hey
[22:07] <attente> bschaefer, js/ui/shellDBus.js in gnome-shell
[22:07] <robert_ancell> dbarth, have you tested remote login with the guest apparmor fix?
[22:11] <attente> bschaefer, also, if you want to know how mutter is emitting the accelerator-activated signal, there's meta_display_accelerator_activate () in src/core/display.c in mutter
[22:11] <bschaefer> attente, cool thanks, ill have to take a look
[22:21] <dbarth> robert_ancell: still not yet sorry
[22:21] <dbarth> and i had to remove the package to build another thing that was breaking with the -dev packages for lightdm-gobject
[22:21] <dbarth> so i need to re-verify my setup before testing
[22:31] <GunnarHj> attente: Hi, can we talk about bug 1240058?
[22:31] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1240058 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "UI uses chinese, french and english simultaneously" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1240058
[22:32] <attente> GunnarHj, sure
[22:32] <attente> i don't really know what the right thing is to do there though
[22:33] <GunnarHj> attente: When we talked about it the other day, you expressed some doubt about modifying accountsservice to fix it. Why?
[22:33] <Laney> It might be sensible to add API rather than changing what we have
[22:33] <attente> GunnarHj, not opposed to modifying the language tools
[22:34] <attente> but having them behave differently depending on platform? maybe
[22:34] <attente> i think Laney has the right idea
[22:35] <GunnarHj> attente: We will need to make a-s behave differently depending on platform anyway (Ubuntu vs Xubuntu and Lubuntu).
[22:35] <GunnarHj> attente: What's Laney's idea?
[22:35] <attente> GunnarHj, right, but we could've done that by functionality rather than by environment
[22:36] <attente> adding a different method that explicitly sets the language without adding it to the fallback list
[22:36] <Laney> Provide enough API so that frontends can themselves decide what to do
[22:36] <Laney> it's wrong to do it inside AS
[22:37] <GunnarHj> attente, Laney: Aha, you would prefer a new method?
[22:37] <Laney> yes
[22:38] <attente> +1, although i don't know what it should look like
[22:38] <GunnarHj> Laney, attente: I would like to think about it for day or two, with that idea in mind.
[22:39] <attente> i think what would've been nice is to have set_language and add_language as separate methods, but we can't do that now
[22:39] <GunnarHj> attente: Why not?
[22:39] <Laney> I think SetLanguage is already provided upstream and we just modify it to also write to ~/.pam_environment?
[22:39] <Laney> but yeah it'd be bad to break the contract
[22:40] <Laney> Not the nicest API, I can't even tell where the priority list comes from there
[22:40] <GunnarHj> Laney: It's my fault. ;-)
[22:40] <attente> Laney, the language-tools do a check to see if there's a colon in the value
[22:40] <attente> if there is, it appends
[22:40] <attente> if not, it just sets it, iirc
[22:40] <Laney> oh
[22:40] <Laney> yeah, that's a bit buried
[22:42] <GunnarHj> Laney, attente: There are a reason for everything, but indeed, adding a new method is possible. The method for setting format is not there in the original a-s either, but it's an Ubuntu special.
[22:43] <Laney> I think that one is OK
[22:43] <Laney> It's just the bit with the priority list
[22:43] <attente> we could try a method that only clears LANGUAGE
[22:43] <Laney> which is SetLanguage AFAIK
[22:44] <attente> then on u-s-s, make sure we call that clear, before doing the set
[22:44] <attente> i don't know what the repercussions of having an empty LANGUAGE are, if somebody decides to clear and not set it to something meaningful
[22:45] <GunnarHj> Laney: As long as language-selector is in use (by somebody) we need to deal with the priority list as well. That's why my first thought was to make a-s deal with it conditionally when calling SetLanguage.
[22:45] <Laney> Yeah, that's why I'm proposing not changing it
[22:48] <GunnarHj> attente: Do you mean that u-s-s would first call the SetLanguage method, which does something with LANGUAGE in ~/.pam_environment, and then immediatedly removes the LANGUAGE line? Sounds a little clumsy to me.
[22:48] <attente> GunnarHj, no, i'm thinking u-s-s first calls a ClearLanguage method, followed by SetLanguage
[22:49] <attente> because that would allow u-s-s to set one single language, even if the semantics of SetLanguage are to add it to a list
[22:50] <attente> but i'm not sure about having a ClearLanguage method either tbh
[22:50] <Laney> that or SetLiteralLanguage or something
[22:50] <Laney> GunnarHj: larsu says that upstream is looking for a solution to this btw, so you might want to have a chat with them
[22:50] <Laney> then we could do this there
[22:50] <larsu> GunnarHj: ya, stef walters is the guy to talk to
[22:50] <larsu> stefw on gimpnet
[22:51] <GunnarHj> Laney, larsu: Which upstream are you talking about? GNOME or Debian?
[22:51] <Laney> Accoutnsservice
[22:51] <Laney> with correct spelling
[22:52] <larsu> GNOME
[22:52] <GunnarHj> Laney: Sure, but the ultimate accountsservice is GNOME, while Debian is also involved in Ubuntu.
[22:53] <GunnarHj> larsu
[22:53] <Laney> yes
[22:53] <GunnarHj> larsu: Thanks, I'll talk to stef walters then, to see what the plans are.
[22:54] <Laney> AAAAAAAaaaaanyway, for now one of the two proposed methods should work, and for the long run someone ought to work with upstream to do it properly there
[22:54] <Laney> IMO
[22:55] <GunnarHj> Laney: I agree wholeheartedly. Problem is that GNOME hasn't been very interested in listening to special requirements from distros.
[22:56] <Laney> It's worth explaining our requirements and having the conversation
[22:56] <Laney> sounds like stefw is keen to have it fixed there, so there's a good chance
[22:56] <GunnarHj> Laney: Ok, hopefully you are right.
[22:56] <Laney> optimism!
[22:57] <GunnarHj> ;-)