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| Noskcaj10 | Has anyone got the time to go through the sponsorship queue? i've got a heap of packages waiting, plus a number of other people. | 05:31 |
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| TheLordOfTime | anyone able to answer a question I have about gcc-4.7 (in raring)? | 21:13 |
| TheLordOfTime | (since -packaging went inactive and never actually replied to my general question about its build deps) | 21:13 |
| TheLordOfTime | the question is how it is able to build-depend on a package that is built from gcc-4.7, because i find it curious that the package has to build before its build-dep is satisfied. | 21:14 |
| jtaylor | I guess it was bootstrapped from a version which did not need libx32 | 21:22 |
| cjwatson | TheLordOfTime: The first build probably came from a previous GCC version | 21:46 |
| cjwatson | TheLordOfTime: We do have the ability to bootstrap things manually if necessary; circular build-dependencies are a reality at some level, you can't build the archive out of thin air | 21:47 |
| TheLordOfTime | cjwatson, true, the question came because of an Ask Ubuntu post I was reading up on, someone wants to backport gcc-4.7 in a PPA to precise, but it fails because E:MissingBuildDependency, but the build dependency is created out of gcc-4.7 source, so it was a little confusing for me, sorta like "which came first the chicken or the egg" | 21:48 |
| AlanBell | the chicken house comes first, otherwise a fox will eat the chickens and your eggs. | 21:48 |
| TheLordOfTime | lol | 21:49 |
| TheLordOfTime | cjwatson, i can foresee this being a problem for backporters, i assume that because you can bootstrap things by hand it works in the archive, but trying to backport something with circular build-deps will be problematic for PPA users and such? | 21:50 |
| xnox | AlanBell: i like that answer. | 21:50 |
| xnox | TheLordOfTime: why backporting gcc-4.7 when it's provided in the toolchain-ppa? | 21:50 |
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| cjwatson | TheLordOfTime: Not really interested :) | 21:51 |
| TheLordOfTime | xnox, ask the OP of the question, not me, personally i'm fine with the gcc that's in precise already :P | 21:51 |
| cjwatson | TheLordOfTime: The toolchain is out of scope for the official backports projects anyway ... | 21:51 |
| TheLordOfTime | i was asking myself that same question, xnox, though.. | 21:51 |
| cjwatson | I'm entirely uninterested in supporting people trying to build newer toolchains; it's a rathole | 21:52 |
| xnox | TheLordOfTime: if you want to learn about bootstrapping, google / wikipedia about it. Or just in general look up compiler articles on wikipedia aka "how to build the compiler without a compiler" and things like that. | 21:52 |
| TheLordOfTime | xnox, yeah, i'll just answer their question saying "It can't be done" and that'll be the end of it | 21:53 |
| xnox | TheLordOfTime: where is the question on askubuntu? | 21:53 |
| * TheLordOfTime grabs a link | 21:53 | |
| xnox | TheLordOfTime: it's better to ask them "why would you want to do that?" | 21:53 |
| TheLordOfTime | xnox, http://askubuntu.com/questions/368606/launchpad-missing-build-dependencies-even-though-dependency-should-be-contained | 21:53 |
| xnox | TheLordOfTime: replied. | 22:02 |
| TheLordOfTime | xnox, saw it, upvoted it too | 22:03 |
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| Unit193 | xnox: Heya, got a sec to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/ubiquity/debian-menu/+merge/192615 ? | 22:53 |
| xnox | Unit193: looks good. | 22:55 |
| xnox | Unit193: i have verify current ubiquity upload on the image, and then will do another round of merges/fixes in ubiquity | 22:55 |
| Unit193 | xnox: Sounds good. | 22:55 |
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