[00:00] <xangua> hi everyone, after an ubuntu upgrade 12.04  to 12.10, my bluetoot dongle is not recognized, neither the indicator show up in unity panel
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  does 'sudo blkid' show the ssd drive?
[00:09] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: it only shows loop0: type="sqashfs" and sda1:UUID="384D-2BED" TYPE="vfat"
[00:09] <gimli_> what is terminal command to check md5sum?
[00:09] <zeep> md5sum
[00:10] <sisterFister> what's the one to check the date?
[00:10] <bekks> sisterFister: "date"
[00:11] <gimli_>  someone gave me a command to check all iso md5sums.  something like < !md5sum >
[00:11] <gimli_> will that work?  ^
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | gimli_
[00:13] <fmedina> hello
[00:13] <gimli_> !mdsum.  thank you.
[00:13] <zeep> gimli_: md5sum *.iso
[00:13] <fmedina> I am running 13.10, now all flash video freezes, any recommendations?
[00:13] <mheinke> fmedina, is the plugin crashing?
[00:13] <gimli_> i've tried burning an iso to a usb stick twice.  no luck.  i am using this command
[00:13] <zeep> fmedina:  s/mplayer
[00:14] <zeep> or minitube
[00:14] <gimli_> sudo dd if=~/Desktop/filename.iso of=/dev/sdb oflag=direct  bs=4M
[00:14] <fmedina> flash is not crashing, every single video stops a couple of seconds into playback, i slide the progress bar a bit and it starts palying for a few secs, and so on
[00:15] <zeep> gimli_:  did you format the flash drive? i usually format it to fat32 and never had a problem dd'ing to it
[00:15] <zeep> i also don't use the oflag and bs flags. not sure if it matters
[00:16] <fmedina> hmmm.. actually sound does not seem to be working
[00:16] <Ponch0> How come during installation, when I choose "replace and install" it doesn't actually erase anything?
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  if blkid is not showing the device.. then the system is most likely not seeing it at all.  id see if the BIOS is showing the device
[00:16] <Ponch0> It says it erases but it doesn't
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> Ponch0:  delete it
[00:17] <gimli_> zeep: that command has blanked, formatted and burned iso before.
[00:17] <Dr_Willis>  before hand perhaps
[00:17] <Ponch0> Dr_Willis: How?
[00:17] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: the bios does not show it
[00:17] <Ponch0> Dr_Willis: I've formatted with gparted and it's still there.
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> Ponch0:  gparted can delete partions if thats what you want.
[00:17] <Ponch0> It doesn't actually erase the data
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> Ponch0:  formating what exactly?
[00:18] <Jordan_U> sisterFister: It sounds like you have a hardware problem then.
[00:18] <Ponch0> the harddrive
[00:18] <Ponch0> deleting the partitions with gparted doesn't actually free up that space
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> Ponch0:  use gparted. delete all the partions.. you ARE using the 'apply changes' button?
[00:18] <Ponch0> Dr_Willis: I am lol
[00:18] <sisterFister> Jordan_U: Dr_Willis could it be that the drive is not formatted properly or would it show up in bios even if that were the case?
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> ive seen people not relaise that button is there. ;)
[00:18] <zeep> gimli_: dd will write over w/e is there, but if it's not working i'd recommend formatting it
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> Ponch0: you want to erase the whole disk? or just a few parttions?
[00:19] <Jordan_U> sisterFister: It would show up in both your BIOS and in GNU/Linux no matter what bits are stored on the drive.
[00:19] <gimli_> zeep: what would the command for that be?  it has an old iso on it now.
[00:19] <Ponch0> Dr_willis: Well I had to reinstall ubuntu and it kind of puts the old partitions in the back of the disk and just installs in new space
[00:20] <sisterFister> Jordan_U: well it was a 65 dollar SSD. I think I ruined it when i was trying to install linux lite on it once.
[00:20] <Ponch0> So each installation my hdd has less and less space.
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> Ponch0:  you could just try fdisk to delete the partions then  be sure to write the changes.
[00:20] <charlie> Dont you have to set the Bios to acsi for a ssd
[00:20] <tom_> hello everyone
[00:21] <Ponch0> Dr_Willis: Lol ok thanks, next install i'm going to look into dd, I hate to use drastic measures but it seems there's no other way to actually free up the space
[00:21] <zeep> go into custom and manage the partitions by hand
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> Ponch0:  use tge gparted live cd perhaps. Ive neer had gparted not do its job. Could be some odd quirk. or error going on
[00:21] <crankharder> ntp continues to not keep my clock in sync.  syslog is showing a PID permissions error when I restart ntp (which starts as user ntp)  but no other logging about syncing the clock:  https://gist.github.com/crankharder/505fc3000fd6272b0363#file-gistfile1-txt-L3
[00:22] <crankharder> any ideas why there'd be a perm error on that pid file?
[00:22] <Ponch0> Dr_Willis: Usually when I reinstall, I use gparted after booting into live cd
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, I would post evidence of all this really for solid help, and be sure to use a live cd when using gparted to delete, I can't really tell if you have.
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> MASTER_KAYUGA:  please stop spamming me with idiotic useless pokemon pm's - i dont play that childish game any more.
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, Are you removing extended partitions with logicals still inside?
[00:23] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: I'm not sure what that means, so I guess maybe I am missing something.
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> Ponch0:  gparted has an actual offical 'gparted live cd' i use a lot. it dosent auto mount stuff and tends to be more up tp date with the gparted releases
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, I suspect your technique is incorrect here.
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> Ponch0:  if a filesystem is IN USE then gparted cant change it.  and the live cd can automount partions :)
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> so that can cause issues
[00:23] <Ponch0> Dr_Willis: thank you for that, I have to get that.
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> fdisk wont care.
[00:24] <Ponch0> all right thank you guys.
[00:24] <darkclown>  /server 124.105.172.94:3333
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> you can delete your  / partion with fdisk and the system will say.. OK.. ;) then crash a little bit later
[00:24] <zeep> you can install gparted on the live cd provided you have enough free ram
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> zeep, gparted is on the live cd
[00:24] <fmedina> ok, in case anyone else encounterd video not playing back after upgrade to 13.10, turns out I had to: sudo chown your_user_here /run/user/1000/pulse
[00:24] <fmedina> it was an audio problem
[00:25] <fmedina> for some reason that directory was owned by root
[00:25] <Ponch0> lol ok dr_willis, I like the sound of fdisk.
[00:27] <Slyve> Hey - is it possible to install ubuntu on a mac without a usb or cd? I.e. just through terminal?
[00:28] <zeep> wilee-nilee: ah ok
[00:31] <sisterFister> i'm giong to get another drive. In other news, is there any reason i have the option to mount my hd on another ubuntu computer when i'm in the file browsing gui?
[00:34] <visceral> Can somebody please make it so I can view images on ubuntuforums.org without having to authenticate?
[00:34] <visceral> Either make the whole site need authentication, or none of it.
[00:34] <Diamondcite> Registering for a free account is too much?
[00:35] <microfreaks> lol
[00:35] <visceral> Diamondcite, so what's the rationale for allowing unauthenticated users to view text but not images?
[00:35] <Diamondcite> Save bandwidth?
[00:35] <Diamondcite> Thank you MASTER_KAYUGA for the PM spam.
[00:35] <visceral> Meanwhile, they're pushing out how many GBs a month in software, and you think some JPEGs are a concern?
[00:36] <visceral> I don't think so.
[00:36] <visceral> Just seems like something was overlooked.
[00:36] <Diamondcite> Could be, but most of the time, text seems to be enough help?
[00:36] <visceral> Most of the time.
[00:37] <visceral> I'm just making a suggestion that I think will improve the site's usability. Anyone who has administrative access to that site can kindly consider it.
[00:39] <Therapy> Hi guys, I have a problem installing ubuntu from live usb. Basically, I can't even get to the first installation menu, once I select to load from usb, it gets stuck on a blakc screen with flashing cursor on it. Moreover, I've installed the same system (using the same .iso) on a virtual machine and it worked just fine
[00:39] <Therapy> Any suggestions?
[00:39] <visceral> Okay, so I have an actual issue now. ThinkPad X220 BIOS in legacy mode (no EFI), BIOS firmware fully patched. Ubuntu installer on USB (isohybrid/dd). The installer worked, I pressed the button to shutdown/reboot, and the system is hung on a black screen.
[00:39] <visceral> Any ideas why Linux hates me?
[00:40] <sisterFister> it's your shoes Jimmy
[00:40] <cpined> greetings
[00:40] <cpined> anybody have experience flashing a Coby tablet with Ubuntu Touch?
[00:40] <visceral> Pressing spacebar caused the reboot to continue after it displayed some text on the console for 0.1 second. Weird.
[00:41] <xangua> !touch
[00:41] <xangua> cpined: you can only flash ubuntu touch on certain galaxy and nexus devices
[00:42] <cpined> ok, thanks
[00:42] <visceral> Hmm, and now I don't get a desktop on first boot. I get an X11 cursor, some notification about an IBus keyboard shortcut, and that's it...
[00:43] <Ben64> !nomodeset | visceral
[00:43] <fatmandown> Can someone help me install the D-Link DWA-171 USB dongle on my new 13.04 installation?
[00:43] <visceral> Ben64, cold booted and it works. What the hell
[00:43] <visceral> No "nomodeset" required
[00:44] <Therapy> Anyone? Please? QQ
[00:44] <alainus> Where can I get Ubuntu with linux 3.12?
[00:44] <visceral> Ben64, why would it fail only sometimes?
[00:44] <Ben64> visceral: no idea
[00:44] <Ben64> alainus: you can manually do that, but its not supported here
[00:45] <alainus> Ben64, won't it be shipped with the installation anytime soon?
[00:45] <bekks> alainus: No.
[00:45] <alainus> bekks, How come?
[00:46] <Ben64> alainus: it might be in 14.04, but thats still months away
[00:46] <bekks> alainus: because kernel package will only be updated to major versions in case of heavy breakers - security fixes are applied to the same major version as the initial version.
[00:46] <bekks> alainus: Why do you need 3.12 anyways?
[00:47] <baron_zemo> anyone know if you can edit this in the gui?  or is it hard coded into unity? http://imgur.com/a/vqpQQ
[00:47] <alainus> bekks, I got a Vaio Pro 11, and it requires some patches to work, and those are upstreamed in 3.12. I'd prefer it if it worked out of the box.
[00:48] <alainus> But if it's for 2015, though.........
[00:48] <xangua> baron_zemo: by 'this' you mean¿
[00:48] <bekks> alainus: Then you have go with a mainline kernel - vanilla upstream, with no ubuntu patches.
[00:50] <baron_zemo> xangua, that space between the icons and the active window, the "padding"
[00:55] <sisterFister> in other news i'm able to continue working in lubuntu on a laptop after a suspend state and it also suddenly started working on my ubuntu 12.04 tower. First time i've seen suspend work on ubuntu and for no apparent reason too lol
[00:56] <jboii> hei
[00:56] <jboii> anyone know bout an app that controles the usb devices?
[00:58] <forense> hi
[00:58] <forense> suck me
[00:58] <ncp> ok :)
[00:58] <forense> fuck me
[00:58] <ncp> gaypride?
[00:58] <forense> suck my dick
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> jboii:  controlls in what way?
[00:58] <LjL> !ops | forense
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> Kindergarden is out early
[00:59] <baron_zemo> Dr_Willis,  i know look at what this guy answered http://askubuntu.com/questions/368214/where-can-i-find-unity-7-1-2s-appearence-gui-files-on-my-drive
[00:59] <jboii> the usb mouse work , so i need it go get worked using an app
[00:59] <forense> suck me
[01:00] <jboii> i can only use my laptop mouse using a monitor
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> jboii:  i think you need to clarify what it is you are needing to do..
[01:00] <jboii> so a device controller would help fixing it i guess
[01:01] <Ponch0> what is the command line to check my graphics card info and drivers?
[01:01] <jmole> wondering if someone can help me figure out an OpenGL fullscreen issue. I want the app to span across 3 displays. nvidia-settings shows a single X Screen at 7680x1440px, but a fullscreened openGL app is only opening on one display out of the 3
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> Ponch0:  lspci to see devices
[01:02] <Ponch0> thank you again dr_willis
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> jmole:  enable xinerama, and disable twinview - i belive is what you need.  twinvive by design fullscreens apps to a single moniotr. Most people DONT want to fullscreen across 2+ moniotrs
[01:03] <darkangel> Is Ubuntu Main Servers having slow downs on Updates or something cause alot of my updates i was gonna get FAILED
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> darkangel, If nothing is available on some you will see a fail.
[01:04] <darkangel> ok...
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> darkangel, Be careful and do not install a partial upgrade ever.
[01:07] <darkangel> lol why? may i ask
[01:07] <Ponch0> it'll break your install
[01:08] <Ponch0> (personal experience)
[01:08] <darkangel> eww yay
[01:08] <VonDraco> Is there anyway to change the ordering in what to boot into on that screen that appears when I startup my computer? I have ubuntu installed alongside windows and the top option is to boot into Ubuntu, but I'd prefer if it defauled to windows instead.
[01:08] <darkangel> good to know
[01:08] <darkangel> now
[01:08] <darkangel> lol
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> darkangel, partial updates having missing packages still needed, and generally appear, it can brick your setup.
[01:08] <FloodBot1> darkangel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:08] <darkangel> ok mr flood bot
[01:09] <gassho> Ponch0 my update installer to get to 13.10 crashed or something, in the middle of configuring xorg i think
[01:09] <gassho> so im gonna try something else
[01:10] <gassho> but how do i fix this $#!+
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> darkangel, All you have to do is search on the web ubuntu partial upgrades and you would know, you might do this in the future, on things your not sure of.
[01:10] <darkangel> ok
[01:10] <jamesT_> Hello everyone, I've been having some wireless troubles with ubuntu which have been absolutely ruining my linux laptop for me. I've explained it here, but never got much of a reply: http://askubuntu.com/questions/366968/my-wifi-drops-constantly-on-my-university-network-wpa2-peap
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> gassho, swearing is not allowed here.
[01:11] <gassho> yo sorry
[01:12] <Ponch0> i dont know how to fix things I just know how to break them
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> jamesT_, elementary is not supported here you know that already.
[01:12] <darkangel> only problem ima havin is Installing only Sound Converter upgrades neather Fail or extreamly slow also tryin to Download any thing in the Ubuntu Software Center is EXTREAMLY slow
[01:13] <jamesT_> wilee-nilee: So, you think that if I install ubuntu 13.10, the problem will be fixed, despite the fact that my packages are updated with the latest in the ubuntu repositories, and I experienced the exact same problem on an updated 13.04 a few weeks ago?
[01:13] <hispeed76> how do i update to a *more* current kernel?
[01:13] <jmole> Dr_Willis, same issue as before with xinerama enabled and TwinView off. Could it be an issue with my window manager LXDE?
[01:13] <darkangel> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:13] <darkangel> to upgrade kernel
[01:13] <hispeed76> thnx
[01:14] <darkangel> np
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> hispeed76, sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will give you the latest for your release, anything else is not supported basically.
[01:15] <hispeed76> so, 3.11.0-12 is reasonably current?
[01:16] <darkangel> for 13.10 yes
[01:16] <darkangel> unless u want the betas
[01:16] <baron_zemo> how do i install gnome2.0 on ubuntu or something essentially gnome2.0   is it the "sudo apt-get install gnome "fallback " or something?
[01:16] <hispeed76> ima trying to keep stable this time.. <g.
[01:16] <darkangel> aww
[01:17] <darkangel> good idea
[01:17] <darkangel> but 3.11.0-13 should be coming out sooner or l8r
[01:18] <darkangel> Im Scared to see Ubuntu 14.04 LTS performance.... Ubuntu 13.10 is Un-earthly fast kinda creepy on this comp i have
[01:19] <jamesT_> So seriously, does anyone think it is worth it to reinstall 13.10 fresh when my wireless drives didn't work on fully updated 13.04 and 12.04?
[01:19] <jamesT_> *drivers
[01:19] <fatmandown> how would I get a hold of the files that would be installed if I used apt-get install to install a package?
[01:20] <darkangel> I have 12.04.3 which is not bad. i Just stay with the LTS
[01:20] <fatmandown> I need to put build-essential and some other packages on a xubuntu install with no access to internet.
[01:21] <pebbleculture> Hi, everybody. Recently I've been trying to install a couple of linux distros from a Live USB. With Fedora and Crunchbang I had no problems booting from the flash drive, but with Ubuntu 13.10 and and Ubuntu Studio I could not boot the Live installation. I'm a Linux relatively new user.
[01:23] <jamesT_> pebbleculture: Honestly some newer ubuntu releases have made me had to format my flashdrive and reinstall the live usb (you're using unetbootin, right) again before being able to boot from it.
[01:24] <Biafra> pebbleculture: Have you tried burning the ISO to a DVD?
[01:24] <Biafra> pebbleculture: if that fails to run the live disc, check the checksum of the ubuntu isos
[01:25] <pebbleculture> I have used Unetbootin, Universal USB Installer from Windows, the startup disk creator from Ubuntu, I have performed the checksum
[01:25] <Slart> fatmandown: you can always download the package manually and extract the contents
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> darkangel, You can do stack upgrades and get to the raring kernel, however I would back it up first.
[01:26] <Slart> fatmandown: packages.ubuntu.com should have links for everything in the normal repos
[01:26] <lkthomas> hey guys, when I play youtube, the ALSA is occupied by flash and other program can't play sound, is that possible to allow multiple programs play / record with same piece of hardware ?
[01:26] <xeniphon> After years of working with RHEL and Gentoo, I've decided to try out that Ubuntu thing - mostly because of Steam.   I recently let the upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 go and in the process I lost audio, and the network-icon on my desktop doesn't work.  I figured out the audio thing (I added my user ID to the 'audio' group and sound started working) but I haven't figured out how to get the network icon back.  WiFi magically joins the network, but I cannot chang
[01:26] <xeniphon> e the SSID using the GUI.  Any suggestions?
[01:26] <fatmandown> Slart, thank you. Is build-essential usually installed by default? I'm trying to make a driver set for a USB wifi chip and the makefile isn't...making.
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> pebbleculture, blank screen?
[01:27] <Slart> fatmandown: although, if you just want to install packages on an offline computer there are other ways... I think synaptic has a "create a download script to download all the stuff you want to install" which you then run on an internet-connected computer.. preferable from a usb stick
[01:27] <pebbleculture> Wilee-nilee, when booting it says No default or UI configuration
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> pebbleculture, Hmm, not sure of that you try nomodeset?
[01:28] <Slart> fatmandown: build-essential isn't really a big package if I recall correctly.. it depends on a lot of other packages though that will get installed with it
[01:28] <jc__> hi, i have this problem : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1050352
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> pebbleculture, Or xubunru or lubuntu?
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> xubuntu*
[01:28] <jc__> anybody know anything about that
[01:28] <Slart> fatmandown: and I don't think it's installed by default
[01:29] <Biafra> pebbleculture: also, yeah, wilee-nilee's sugestion will possibly work as well...
[01:29] <pebbleculture> I have tried with Ubuntu 13.10 and Ubuntu Studio.
[01:29] <pebbleculture> And always the same, No configuration file Found
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | pebbleculture easier with the multisystem boot
[01:29] <pebbleculture> I will try nomodeset, thanks.
[01:30] <pebbleculture> That's something I have not tried yet.
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> pebbleculture, If you try this boot the unetbootin app does not default to the kernel modify gui with a e for edit the multisytem will.
[01:30] <Slart> !info aptoncd | fatmandown
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> IT can not sure how though, pebbleculture
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> jc__:  what ubuntu relase is the problem happening in?
[01:32] <jc__> sorry, i have 13.04
[01:32] <Slart> fatmandown: there's also apt-zip and apt-offline that should be helpful
[01:32] <pebbleculture> Thanks wilee-nilee.
[01:32] <sam113101> hello
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> jc__:  i had the issue in 13.04 - iv not seen it in 13.10
[01:33] <fatmandown> thank you! if anyone here knows of a USB wifi dongle I can use that works with XUbuntu, let me know?
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> fatmandown:  should be many of them on amazon.com - ive posted reviews for the 3 or so ive  bought that work well
[01:34] <jc__> Dr_Willis: i got 13.10 but get back to 13.10 for hdmi isues
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> fatmandown:  look for reviews written by B. Bubba   ;)
[01:35] <feros> Hello there :)
[01:35] <fatmandown> Dr_Willis, thanks! Will do- I just got my hands on an old Dell desktop and want to add wifi capability to it with xfce. Thank you!
[01:36] <feros> Anyone here really really good got time to help me ^^? Got a GPU issue ^^
[01:38] <feros> *sings* Alone in the dark as alwaaays *nanana*
[01:38] <Biafra> feros, I have some time
[01:39] <feros> <3 :D
[01:39] <Biafra> Intel, AMD, or Nvidia?
[01:39] <feros> Well, my problem is that all the guids I find for Asus 7950 is for intel, I got a AMD processor
[01:40] <feros> and last time I did a install I ended up with a black screen and had to reinstall
[01:40] <feros> This time I seek help instead of another screwup (A)
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> feros, My assumption here is that details are key, run lspci in the terminal and identify the graphics to the channel
[01:51] <feros> getting help from Biafra :)
[01:52] <Guest38418> hi all i have two monitors on 12.04 but the second monitor does not show up in setting-displays, but if i upgrade to 12.10 it will work. so is there a package that i need that i do not have by default with 12.04
[01:54] <apricots> i ubuntu is it possible to share a usb-connected printer over bluetooth?
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> Guest38418, Look on the net for drivers in ubuntu for that monitor.
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> Guest38418, Indentify it in a askubuntu search maybe.
[01:55] <Guest38418> wilee-nilee: i think it might be my xorg.conf, it was set up with one monitor and i just hooked the second one up
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> Guest38418, You were on earlier, what was done there, it would show up I would think at the least, is there even a xorg.conf?
[01:58] <gassho> i dont see how to get my home folder in the file manager, or get the file manager to open at all
[01:58] <gassho> version 13.04; edubuntu variant
[01:59] <gassho> plus the 13.10 installer/upgrader stopped working more than a day ago
[02:00] <Leroy91> I don't suppose anyone here is running an IBM xServe 346?
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> Guest38418, here is one link read and follow with care. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=xorg.conf+12.04
[02:01] <Zenith> hello
[02:01] <gassho> oh, hi there Zenith :)
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> Leroy91, The channel works with you stating the actual issues to it.
[02:02] <Zenith> I'm new to all this everything
[02:02] <xIlluzionx> hello
[02:02] <Zenith> hi!
[02:02] <gassho> hlo :D
[02:02] <xIlluzionx> I am a brand new Ubuntu user, and thus, I am having problems
[02:03] <Leroy91> I'm trying to get my machine to go into standby and wake up on it's own at certain times, which I can do with a simple bash script on a cron job but I'm wondering (since I'm running an enterprise level server) if anyone has been able to reduce fan speed during standby time
[02:03] <xIlluzionx> I cannot get my machine to boot
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> Leroy91, This a ubuntu server?
[02:03] <Leroy91> even in standby they sound like a wind tunnel and the BIOS has nothing about fan speed
[02:03] <Leroy91> yes
[02:03] <Leroy91> 12.04
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> Leroy91, You might like #ubuntu-server
[02:03] <Leroy91> thanks i'll give it a shot
[02:04] <Zenith> feros O.o
[02:04] <xIlluzionx> I installed Ubuntu Server 13.10 and when it boots and I select "Ubuntu" it goes through boot and then powers off
[02:04] <Zenith> are you booting ubuntu off a flashdrive?
[02:04] <xIlluzionx> No, I installed off of a flash drive
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> xIlluzionx, Fresh install. in a vm a regular hd, a potato?
[02:05] <xIlluzionx> created a bootable usb
[02:05] <xIlluzionx> This is a fresh install on a ssd with nothing but ubuntu
[02:05] <Zenith> my only advice from my very limited knowledge is to hold f12 while it boots
[02:05] <Zenith> FEROS
[02:06] <Zenith> hey Feros
[02:06] <Zenith> Mass Effect?
[02:06] <xIlluzionx> I will try F12 I suppose
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> xIlluzionx, Be sure the ssd's mbr is where the grub bootloader went, this a dual with W8 perchance?
[02:07] <xIlluzionx> I did choose to install the grub loaded to the SSD
[02:07] <mr-rich-76> Every time I close my laptop, sound stops working. 13.10 - system76 laptop - any ideas?
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> xIlluzionx, The mbr?
[02:07] <xIlluzionx> How can I check that?
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> xIlluzionx, The mbr would be for example sda no partition numbers, we can assume there is no uefi right anywhere?
[02:08] <xIlluzionx> When it attempts to loag I see "Grub Version 2.00" at the top of the screen
[02:08] <xIlluzionx> Does that answer your question?
[02:09] <xIlluzionx> I currently have no way of seeing the partition scheme
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> xIlluzionx, uefi is rather important to confirm, I have the feeling you are not understanding me.
[02:09] <xIlluzionx> I'm not, I apologize
[02:09] <xIlluzionx> I am coming from a hackintosh setup if that helps
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> xIlluzionx, No biggie, we just want make sure we are communicating.
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> xIlluzionx, That would be outside my area of any knowledge.
[02:10] <xIlluzionx> I am fairly technology competent, however checking the mbr is outside my knowledge scope currently
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> what little I have lol
[02:11] <xIlluzionx> During the install, I said use the full disk, and at towards the end I said add the grub loader to the disk
[02:11] <xIlluzionx> I believe I am getting to the grub loader, when the computer boots I get to a black screen with four options
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> xIlluzionx, The mbr is part of a msdos setup, standard formatting, I'm not sure what you have, so that is important to the channel though.
[02:12] <xIlluzionx> This harddrive has never had msdos installed
[02:13] <xIlluzionx> I currently have a command screen loaded
[02:13] <xIlluzionx> "GNU Grub version 2.00-19ubuntu2"
[02:13] <xIlluzionx> I am able to type after "grub>"
[02:13] <xIlluzionx> Is that helpful information for further troubleshooting?
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> xIlluzionx,If the computer has had a gpt setup you may need to make sure any remnants are gone. There is a bootrepair app that will tell us with the bootinfo summary. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  Do you want a msdos is this a standard computer or an apple...etc or a uefi?
[02:14] <xIlluzionx> This will be only an Ubuntu server, nothing else.  Looking into that application
[02:15] <xIlluzionx> It is also just standard hardware
[02:15] <xIlluzionx> not apple components
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> xIlluzionx, The tool may just fix it, save the bootinfo summary url though.
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> FF 25 is released tomorrow
[02:19] <anonjumper> buona sera, un aiuto per tor?
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> ! it | anonjumper
[02:21] <anonjumper> ok grazie
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[02:24] <KillSnooki> Hi Everyone :) I have been having serious issues getting Ubuntu installed on both my laptop and desktop (dual-boot) I have been searching the interwebs intensively and at this point I am so confused on what's going on. I boot the Live CD and then select the option to install next to Windows. When I reboot no grub ever loads. I am running ACHI with UEFI if that matters. I just booted and told
[02:24] <KillSnooki> it to do a check disk but all I see is a black screen.
[02:25] <feros> Any tip on what to use for games? LoL and WoW (sounds silly like that...)? Wine, Crossover or playonlinux?
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | KillSnooki
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> KillSnooki, and another link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295  resize windows with it's partitioner for the unallocated space for ubuntu.
[02:27] <KillSnooki> Thanks Wilee, I have read all over that. I installed Windows in ACHI/UEFI mode it states I should not have any problem.
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> I would image windows to have a backup schema in case anything happens. KillSnooki
[02:27] <DevZero> i'm trying to resurrect an old dell 2400 for a senior citizen who only wants to surf a few websites...however, the onboard graphics are very buggy on linux and flash (i.e. youtube) is unwatchable.  so i want to buy a refurb card for it, but am not sure about compatibility.  how does someone know definitively if something is compatible in these situations with older hardware?  specifically, i'd like to know if this ca
[02:28] <KillSnooki> meh I've reinstalled Windows about 5 times in the last week trying to mess with the MBR and what-not
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> KillSnooki, If uefi the mbr does not play out here.
[02:28] <KillSnooki> ah, uefi is the new bootloader? I thought uefi was more the BIOS?
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> KillSnooki, Yes it is a different bios, the boot is from partitions I believe.
[02:31] <thumbee> ive just increase the size of my VirtualBox VM from 8gb to 30gb successfully but im having problems adjusting the size in gparted. where it only still shows the original 8gb. any thoughts?
[02:31] <KillSnooki> Okay, the link you provided wilee says to update the UEFI which I understand. When I go to the lenovo y500 drivers for BIOS there's no updates available. Does UEFI have a separate update procedure?
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> thumbee, I believe you just make a new container and link it to the vdi.
[02:32] <thumbee> can u be more specific. im a newbie
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> KillSnooki, No idea really my knowledge in uefi is cursory at best. you might want to know of the bootreapir app as a fixer, and as a it makes a script to use when needing help called the bootinfo summary.
[02:33] <thumbee> right now in my gparted it says "/dev/sda5 7.76GiB" and thats the full horizontal bar. (meaning it only sees ths original 8gb allocation)
[02:33] <thumbee> *i believe.
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> thumbee, The os is installed in a container, a vdi or another depending on how you installed, you make another the size you want and in the preferences attach the OS to it, try #vbox maybe.
[02:36] <SlickMcRunFast> Anyone having issues with 13.04 update to 3.8.0-32?
[02:36] <SlickMcRunFast> My mouse stopped working
[02:36] <SlickMcRunFast> when i change back to 31 in grub it works
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> SlickMcRunFast, Any drivers needed originally for it?
[02:36] <SlickMcRunFast> but back to 32 its dead again
[02:36] <SlickMcRunFast> don't think so
[02:36] <SlickMcRunFast> ps2 mouse doesn't work either
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> SlickMcRunFast, This a ubuntu repo update?
[02:38] <SlickMcRunFast> i think so
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> not sure myself
[02:38] <SlickMcRunFast> i don't have anything in my sources related to kernel
[02:39] <SlickMcRunFast> besides stock
[02:39] <SlickMcRunFast> is there a log somewhere that barfs errors?
[02:39] <SlickMcRunFast> related to input devices
[02:41] <KillSnooki> wilee, Sir/Maim I do believe you are a god-send. On that link you sent me I found a link to a specific post about Ubuntu problems with the Lenovo Y500. Thank you so, somuch
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> KillSnooki, sounds like oldfreds link.
[02:42] <SlickMcRunFast> hmm maybe i did install a special driver for the mouse. roccat pure xtd
[02:42] <SlickMcRunFast> reboot and rebuild i guess
[02:42] <SlickMcRunFast> thanks
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> mmm proprietary
[02:44] <lolhiimchris> How would I go about figuring out why my wireless breaks when I switch from 12.04 LTS to 13.1? Is it a change in the kernel?
[02:45] <ziroday> Hey there! I'm seeing awfully slow updates and installs from the default us.archive repo (https://gist.github.com/nickhs/7226460) - any better way to debug what's going wrong?
[02:46] <ac_slater> Jordan_U: Hey I fixed my issue. I had two glib installs visable globally, so gconf and gnome-session were using my newer glib instead of the one in apt. Thanks!
[02:46] <thumbee> ahh i think i found the solution. im shouldnt have instaleld gparted using sudo. but with the image iso. though im not clearly understanding what "Add the ISO as Virtual DISK Boot from the it using the same machine in Virtual Box" means
[02:52] <lianzinho> guys, I need to sed http:\\/\\/foo.org indto http:\\/\\/bar.foo.org but I can't figure out how to handle this escaped slashes
[02:52] <delinquentme_> anyone with ubuntu editing ability ? I've got this KernelDriver=nvidia_319_updates  <<< which is wrong here:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Updating_drivers
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> thumbee:  that dosent make a lot of sence. :) gparted needs to bee installed by the admin/sudo user  id imagine. since you would need to run gparted as root anyway.    add the iso to vbox. i imagoue would tell vbox to stick the iso in the virtual cdrom drive
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> lianzinho:  i seem to recall there being a way to make sed (or other regular expression engines) use a differnt escape characer. like # for example. that would make the  regrexp a bit easier to read/understand
[02:57] <lianzinho> Dr_Willis:  I've tried, but still not working
[02:57] <lianzinho> i've managed to do it using echo piping directly to sed
[02:57] <thumbee> Dr_Willis: yes - ahh yees yes. i just figured out what i was doing wrong. and realized what i said didnt make any sense lol. thanks!
[02:58] <lianzinho> but when I`ve tried with a file, it does not do the job!
[02:58] <SlickMcRunFast> it sees the devices but they don't work!
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> delinquentme, you not know how to edit. /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf
[02:58] <SlickMcRunFast> how is 13.10
[02:59] <delinquentme> wilee-nilee, I mean the tutorial on the website is wrong :D
[02:59] <lianzinho> Dr_Willis: look this monster:
[02:59] <lianzinho> Dr_Willis: echo "http:\\/\\/dialogossetoriais" | sed "s/http:\\\\\/\\\\\/dialogossetoriais/http:\\\\\\\\\/\\\\\\\\\/antigo\.dialogossetoriais/g"
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> lilstevie:  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/407523/escape-a-string-for-sed-search-pattern    in the comments   mention using charrs other then \  for the escape sequence
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> delinquentme, Give some details to the channel than.
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> t's worth noting that you can avoid having to escape the forward slashes by not using them as the delimiters. Most (all?) versions of sed allow you to use any character, so long as it fits the pattern: $ echo 'foo/bar' | sed s_/_:_ # foo:bar
[03:02] <SPEEDWAVE> how to install this file hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:02] <lianzinho> Dr_Willis: yeah, but, take a look at this: echo http:\\/\\/dialogossetoriais | sed "s=http:\\/\\/dialogossetoriais=http:\\/\\/antigo.dialogossetoriais=g"
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  a .bin is a rather useless extension. it means 'binary' and tells us very little.. what is that file supposed to do exactly?
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> lianzinho:  i can look at it all day.. but i use sed/awk/regrxps almost once every 8 months... ;)
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> lianzinho:  so im defaintaly not an expert
[03:04] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis, update for steam tools
[03:04] <help_me> hello. how is everyone?
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  perhaps steam or the tools are supposed to load it.. or its supposed to go in some directory under your steam files..
[03:04] <srtfmx> Is it possible to boot ubuntu via pxe using pxe+ftp instead of pxe+nfs
[03:05] <help_me> I'm running ubuntu 13.10 and I'm having an issue. My box is downloading at 3,000 +/- Bps. could anyone help me diagnose AND fix this issue, please?
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> help_me, try another mirror, you can search for the fastest answer in the software sources
[03:05] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis, ok i just copy and paste that in a steam folder
[03:06] <lianzinho> Dr_Willis:  nice, ok. Anywhere where I could get help on this? Its kinda difficult to search for… hahaha
[03:06] <help_me> it's not just the updates/upgrades... it's also the net connection wilee-nilee
[03:06] <help_me> on firefox, xchat, etc
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> help_me, reboot the router maybe
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> lianzinho: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10309968/sed-search-and-replace-strings-containing?rq=1
[03:07] <help_me> it was doing this at the library too... I suspect it's a software thing wilee-nilee, not the router
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> leave it off for 30-60  seconds unless its static to change, check the my net speed, help_me
[03:07] <kostkon> help_me, checked your connection speed in your router settings?
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> help_me, This with a usb wireless?
[03:08] <kostkon> help_me, modem/router*
[03:08] <help_me> no. this is wifi wilee-nilee. no usb device
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> help_me, find it with lspci and tell us what it is.
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> rt something is my guess
[03:09] <help_me> 24:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[03:09] <help_me>  @ wilee-nilee
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> help_me, You might cruise through here. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=AR9285
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> I tried a 13.10 search nothing relevant
[03:12] <help_me> will look wilee-nilee, thank you
[03:12] <kostkon> help_me, have you checked your internet connection speed already
[03:12] <help_me> not yet, I will soon after update
[03:15] <marz> I'm having problems installing the proprietary driver for my wireless, can anybody help me
[03:15] <doug_> join #xboxdrv
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> ! details | marz to the channel
[03:16] <marz> I'm having problems installing my laptop's proprietary wireless driver
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> marz:  give the channel whatever details you have - is a good idea.. since thats going to be the first thing asked. ;)
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> marz, really you have the man on the mars version. ;)
[03:17] <srtfmx> I am running ubuntu 12.04. Trying to install it via pxeboot by installing kernel and initrd via tftp and then remaining files via ftp
[03:18] <lianzinho> Dr_Willis:  hahahaha… can't believe, just using single quotes instead of double!
[03:18] <srtfmx> i am not able to find any kind of help online for this it is filled with links for nfs which i do not want to do
[03:19] <srtfmx> please help me anyone
[03:20] <marz> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04, I'm currently using an ethernet cable to acquire Internet connection. In my System Settings > Additional Drivers, there is a proprietary wireless (Broadcom) driver available but I try to activate it, i get the error "Sorry installation of this driver failed". Please have a look at the log filefor details: /var/log/jockey.log
[03:20] <srtfmx> Dr_Willis I am running ubuntu 12.04. Trying to install it via pxeboot by installing kernel and initrd via tftp and then remaining files via ftp and i am not able to find any kind of help online for this it is filled with links for nfs which i do not want to do
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> lianzinho:  for inside bash.. the use of ' '  vs  ""  makes bash ignore whats inside the ' ' marks ;)
[03:22] <kostkon> marz, first of all, open the software centre, select edit -> software sources from the menu and then in the first tab make sure that all the repos are enabled, main, universe
[03:22] <marz> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04, I'm currently using an ethernet cable to acquire Internet connection. In my System Settings > Additional Drivers, there is a proprietary wireless (Broadcom) driver available but I try to activate it, i get the error "Sorry installation of this driver failed". Please have a look at the log filefor details: /var/log/jockey.log. There are a lot of stuff in the log file, can't figure it out
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> srtfmx:  ive never used pxe. so no idea.  It might not even be doable over ftp
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> marz:  and the chipset is what exactly?
[03:23] <kostkon> marz, if that's not case, enable them, press close, then either open the terminal and give: sudo apt-get update or open the update manager and check for updates and then try to install the driver again
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> broadcom makes a LOT of differnt wifi chipsets. :) some work better then others.
[03:24] <kostkon> marz, then try this guide
[03:24] <kostkon> !bcm | marz
[03:24] <srtfmx> Dr_Willis Thanks for the reply well can you tell anyone who can help me. I am kind of stuck in  it for too long then expected and i am frustrated very much
[03:24] <kostkon> hmm
[03:24] <kostkon> !broadcom | marz, this:
[03:24] <kostkon> pfff
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> srtfmx:  the #ubuntu-server channel may know if its even possible. #networking might.
[03:24] <garcianc_> srtfmx, have you looked at something like this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[03:24] <marz> kostkon:  Yes it is
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> i cant recall ever seeing a ftp server used as net-boot type setup I would think the limitaions of ftp would   cause problems
[03:25] <kostkon> marz, all repos are enabled? also check in the 3d party software tab
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> tftp  just grabs the initial kernel and initrd i thought.
[03:25] <srtfmx> I have looked it all and tried every possible thing which i can think off .Nothing is working.
[03:25] <thumbee> ugh. i finally got a new 'drive' added and when i try to drag files into the folder i dont have permission. can someone point me to how thats done. its called "/dev/sda3" mounted on "/media/sda3"
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | thumbee
[03:26] <srtfmx> Yes i have looked at that link it tell us how to do it via nfs not via ftp
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> thumbee:  if its ext2.3.4 then you need to chown/chmod the mountpoint or directories inside the filesystem to allow your user access
[03:27] <garcianc_> not nfs, tftp
[03:27] <marz> kostkon:  Yes, under the Other Softwares tab, the "Provided by third-party" is checked
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> thumbee:  the same permissions rules apply if its a local folder. or a mounted filesystem. (as long as the filesystem supports the linux permissions)
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> thumbee:  if you are using ntfs/vfat - then you have to change permissions in a differnt way
[03:28] <srtfmx> yes tftp just grab the initial kernel and initrd and then i am trying to grab remaining files via ftp which is not happening
[03:28] <kostkon> marz, reboot, try to enable it again, if you get the same message, then open a terminal and give: gedit /var/log/jockey.log  then paste its contents on paste.ubuntu.com and paste here the url of the paste
[03:29] <marz> kostkon: okay, just a minute
[03:30] <delinquentme> if I'm sticking /home on one partition and the rest of my ubuntu install on another
[03:30] <delinquentme> how much of a 1TB HD do I want dedicated to each?
[03:31] <silverf0x> anyone can help me with uefi boot?
[03:31] <silverf0x> i just updated mine UEFI and cant boot on ubuntu
[03:32] <thumbee> finally got it. lol sudo chown -R user1:user1 /media/sda3 xD
[03:32] <thumbee> success
[03:32] <thumbee> lol
[03:32] <Ben64> delinquentme: I have a 64GB / partition, 38GB of that is /home, and i have 9GB free
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> delinquentme:  for /  id use at least 30gb.   some people get by with less.. but ive definatly filled up 20gb / befor.
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> delinquentme:  50-100 would be even safer
[03:33] <garcianc_> srtfmx, I think that previous link might have been missing the step that tells you to copy the netboot install files to your tftp directory. This other link might show you a couple of more options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> delinquentme:   be very very carefull if making a seperate /boot/ partion that you dont fill it up.   use of a /boot/ partion is only needed in some cases these days
[03:34] <SPEEDWAVE> mesa-9.1.7.tar.gz how to install this in terminal using ubuntu12.04
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> delinquentme:  so / of 30-100gb.  some swap partion, rest for home.
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  if its source code you compile it..
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  and i imagine that will be quite a task.
[03:34] <srtfmx> garcianc: i have copid my netboot install files to that directory but the problem is that it is not able to up my eth0 and i dont know why is this happening
[03:35] <srtfmx> garcianc_ : i am able to download the kernel and initrd via tftp over the network but after that the eth0 kind of dies out and is never able to get ip again from dhcp
[03:35] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis, i don't know if this a source code?
[03:36] <garcianc_> I have had that problem before with pxe booting. Somehow it wants to use eth1. Are you able to manually bring up the interface?
[03:37] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis, i want to update my mesa in intel driver do you think this is the roght updates as of 2013 mesa-9.1.7.tar.gz
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  dont get mad.. but i think you may be  needing to learn to walk. befor you run.    Extract the archive and look at the files in it.
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  i imagine trying to compile/install that  will break things for you
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  there are ppa's with newer intel drivers. (the xorg - xedgers ppa) and intel has its 01.org site for newer drivers
[03:37] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis, ah.. i see ok
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  either of those can also break things. :)
[03:38] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis, thanks
[03:38] <zero_coder> hello
[03:38] <silverf0x> i just updated mine UEFI and cant boot on ubuntu
[03:38] <zero_coder> my os is getting stuck at times
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  why do you think you need to install  newer stuff?
[03:39] <srtfmx> garcianc : no i am not able even to get it manually up.All tutorial is on nfs and i want to use ftp and i am stuck
[03:39] <thumbee> kindda silly question. but how do i change the ubuntu desktop gui folder to show files in "detail view" (reference to windows detailed view format)
[03:39] <thumbee> as oppose to icons :P
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> srtfmx:  i cant even find any guides mentiong that its possible to do it over just ftpo.
[03:39] <garcianc_> srtfmx, the nfs vs. ftp issue is different than your interface issue
[03:39] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis, is that avaible in synaptic package manager?
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> thumbee:  what ubuntu release? Nautiuls changes a bit from release to relase
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  PPA's are not in the  default package manager repostories
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> !ppa | SPEEDWAVE
[03:40] <thumbee> ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64
[03:40] <srtfmx> Dr-Willis : yes me too also not able to find any guide that it is possible or not.
[03:40] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis, i don't know b'coz i just want to play my game in ubuntu ok..
[03:40] <msdw01> Anyoen know about zpanel
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> srtfmx:  its possible that its not possible. ;)
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> !info zpanel
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> !find zpanel
[03:41] <msdw01> zpanel for 12.4
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  and what game is this?
[03:41] <srtfmx> garcianc: yes i know that both are different issue but i am not able to pin point my exact problem :(
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> msdw01:  is it in the repositories?
[03:42] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis, Dota 2 B'coz my hero is invisible in steam
[03:42] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis, and i think my graphics is kinda low update i guess?
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  theres no guarentees that newer intel drivers may fix a game bug.
[03:42] <srtfmx> Dr_Willis: yes it is possible that its not possible but i am unable to find a reference for it even
[03:42] <garcianc_> srtfmx, without a network interface up you will not be able to do a net install.  The boot image comes from tftp, but the netboot install will get the packages from the internet repositories.
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  if you feel brave. try that PPA. or the o1.org
[03:42] <msdw01> actually ive ran the auto install script but it says its installing but nothing
[03:43] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis,Uhmmm... ok i will try that is that not that harmful? hehehe
[03:43] <thumbee> problem is i dont even know what its called. ie. google "ubuntu desktop file view" -_-; ? like i want to see file size beside files in desktop view lol
[03:43] <srtfmx> garcianc: i have a pxe server on a centos 6 machine which is running dhcp server to give ip tftp service and vsftpd to transfer remaining files
[03:44] <mheinke> hows the party?
[03:44] <bl4ckdu5t> Trying to update wine and I did "sudo apt-get update wine"
[03:44] <Kryptis3> I need some opinions. I seriously have no idea what to do. Should I switch to 13.10 or stay on ubuntu 13.04?
[03:44] <Ben64> bl4ckdu5t: thats not how that command works
[03:44] <bl4ckdu5t> I think I'm doing it wrong
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> bl4ckdu5t, That is incorrect a regular update would do it if available.
[03:45] <SchrodingersScat> bl4ckdu5t: you meant sudo apt-get ; wine
[03:45] <Ben64> Kryptis3: you'll need to upgrade before january or you'll lose support
[03:45] <mheinke> bl4ckdu5t, sudo apt-get upgrade**
[03:45] <SchrodingersScat> er
[03:45] <srtfmx> garcianc: all the netboot files are in tftp's directory and my client machine is able to fetch them via the ip given by dhcp but when its time to fetch the remaining files to install the remaining things it just dies out
[03:45] <bl4ckdu5t> ok I do my regular updates to tho
[03:45] <mheinke> update just checks whether new packages are available
[03:45] <Ben64> bl4ckdu5t: wine will be included in normal updates
[03:45] <mheinke> upgrade actually..upgrades
[03:46] <Kryptis3> Ben64 I am also contemplating if I should switch to another distro instead of updating to 13.10
[03:46] <Ben64> Kryptis3: thats not really a question for #ubuntu
[03:46] <srtfmx> garcianc: is it possible that the problem lies in  the initrd file and it is corrupted or not compatible with my setting or something like that bcoz my eth0 interface seem to work fine
[03:46] <bl4ckdu5t> also, I want to be able to switch from unity to kde at anytime and switch back easily. How do I go about this?
[03:46] <SPEEDWAVE> ubottu, ok i will check that and read those in the link hope it helps me..
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  the xorg edgers ppa sould be easier to install/remove.. No idea about the 01.org drivers from intel
[03:46] <zero_coder> what is the best way to upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10
[03:47] <zero_coder> ??
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> zero_coder:   a clean install.
[03:47] <Kryptis3> Ben64 I needed an opinion and I went to Ubuntu, for me it only seems logical from my standpoing.
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> zero_coder:  but you can backup, then try the release upgrade method.
[03:47] <mheinke> i did a straight upgrade and it worked great
[03:47] <Kryptis3> standpoint*
[03:47] <Ben64> Kryptis3: we might be biased here towards ubuntu
[03:47] <mheinke> 13.04 -> 13.10 worked like a charm
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> we see a lot of upgrade issues in here.. but thats because this is where people come when they have issues.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> I also upgraded with no issues. :0
[03:48] <zero_coder> Dr_Willis, my ubuntu is becoming unresponsive at times
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> otheres have not been so lucky
[03:48] <mheinke> Kryptis3, depends on your knowledge of linux
[03:48] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis, ok i check it too
[03:48] <garcianc_> srtfmx, that sounds much more complicated than my gut feeling tells me. You might want to double-check your DHCP configuration.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> zero_coder:   may as well do a clean new install. if you can.
[03:48] <Kryptis3> mheinke, I have good knowledge of ubuntu.
[03:48] <mheinke> thats not the question
[03:48] <Kryptis3> linux in general
[03:48] <KillSnooki> I am trying to install Ubuntu onto the lenovo y500 following the instructions here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/272570/unable-to-install-ubuntu-on-lenovo-y500/290358#290358 I just whiped my drive and changed the grub.cfg try ubuntu file to text only. When I try to boot it get's stuck at fb: conflicting fb hw usage nouveaufb vs EFI VGA - removing generic driver
[03:48] <mheinke> are you comfortable rolling / compiling your own kernal?
[03:48] <zero_coder> Dr_Willis, okay
[03:48] <Kryptis3> mheinke, Oh... not really...
[03:48] <bl4ckdu5t> I will like to know if 'apt-get install kubuntu' is enough for me to have kde running
[03:49] <qin> Kryptis3: Most of distros are blessed with live verion to try...
[03:49] <bl4ckdu5t> then will it be possible for me to switch back to unity at will
[03:49] <mheinke> can you get around without a graphical display?
[03:49] <anonymous__> is anyone here?
[03:49] <Kryptis3> mheinke, Yes.
[03:49] <srtfmx> garcianc_ : it is just giving ip telling ip of tftp machine and the name of the file .Nothing else
[03:49] <mheinke> you might want to try arch
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> bl4ckdu5t:  'kubuntu-desktop' is the full kubuntu setup.  try kde and see if it gives you a useable desktop
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> bl4ckdu5t:  you select the desktop to use at the login screen (lightdm)
[03:49] <garcianc_> srtfmx, does the machine ever boot the image?
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> bl4ckdu5t:  its trivial to have several *-desktop packages installed at the same time. ;)
[03:50] <anonymous__> i am new here. .:D
[03:50] <mheinke> Kryptis3, i love ubuntu, its my go-to distro, but arch is fun and fast and allows you more freedom..more like a poweruser distro
[03:50] <mheinke> its worth trying
[03:51] <anonymous__> may i ask some question is there metasploit in anon-OS
[03:51] <anonymous__> ?
[03:51] <Kryptis3> mheinke, I've tried Arch but I don't like it very much.
[03:51] <srtfmx> garcianc_ the machine just fetch kernel and initrd image but the same setting works perfectly fine when i do this to boot a centos image remotely
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> anonymous__, This is ubuntu support.
[03:51] <starkiller> i need hellllp lol
[03:51] <mheinke> Kryptis3, aww :P ok, well then you can go further down that path with slackware or gentoo..or go back to debian/ubuntu/mint
[03:51] <anonymous__> hi there wilee-nilee
[03:52] <garcianc_> srtfmx, sorry for not understanding but when you say that it fetches the kernel, does that mean that it boots? are you getting to a point where you can do something?
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> good old linux-from-scratch for those that want to spend all day reading a manual and watching code compile ;)
[03:53] <mheinke> LFS++
[03:53] <qin> haha
[03:53] <KillSnooki> All day for you, all season for me ;)
[03:53] <starkiller> i love xubuntu, i have it on  3 computers:P but i have an old celeron 1.20 processor and 300 ram
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> the Linux-from-scratch book IS handy to read. if nothing else - you learn a bit about how things are setup on a typical linux system. and what differnt packages do
[03:53] <mheinke> im running 13.10 on a HP elitebook (quad I7 8gb ram) i love it!
[03:53]  * wilee-nilee whistles "no one knows the trouble I have seen"
[03:54] <srtfmx> garcianc_ yes i do get to a point where i can select language country and such thing but when it go on to configuring eth0 interface it just dies out
[03:54] <Kryptis3> mheinke, I do like debian based distros... But ubuntu is not fitting my needs, Mint doesn't like my computer for some odd reason.
[03:54] <starkiller> and i need an os for it:P
[03:54] <mheinke> Dr_Willis, have they come out with an updated manual?
[03:54] <mheinke> Kryptis3, how about debian?
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> mheinke:  not noticed. :) they come out with somthing eveyr year or so. ;) just changes version #'s i imagine
[03:55] <mheinke> or Kryptis3 there is an ubuntu deriv out there running Enlightenment Environment
[03:55] <mheinke> i forget the name
[03:55] <Kryptis3> mheinke, I have tried it. By chance do you know any other debian distros?
[03:55] <Kryptis3> mheinke, I think you are thinking about Bodhi Linux.
[03:55] <mheinke> Kryptis3, what are you looking for?
[03:55] <KillSnooki> (Same edits as listed in step 3. Also on my install Ubuntu was on the 8th partition /dev/sdb8. Yours may vary so check it first!) How can I check which partition the installed used in text mode?
[03:56] <mheinke> what is the itch you are trying to scratch?
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> Kryptis3: did you try E17 on ubuntu yet?
[03:56] <starkiller> is there something like xubuntu compatible for a p3 1.20 processor:P?
[03:56] <mheinke> starkiller, Damn Small Linux
[03:56] <kostkon> starkiller, how much ram?
[03:56] <zero_coder> ubunutu is getting unresponsive at time
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> starkiller:  for low low end machines. You might want to check into Puppy Linux and its old-legacy variants
[03:56] <xangua> starkiller: there is Lubuntu, is the ubuntu flavor that uses less resources
[03:56] <mheinke> MacPup :P
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> starkiller:  lubuntu is as light as normal ubuntu gets
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> does a P3 even support PAE?
[03:57] <Kryptis3> mheinke, Lightweight, fully customizable, able to handle multiple desktop environments.
[03:57] <kostkon> Dr_Willis, yes. even p2
[03:57] <kostkon> starkiller, lubuntu should be ok
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> Kryptis3:  those goals are often opposites of each other. ;)
[03:57] <mheinke> Kryptis3, sounds like Crunchbang
[03:57] <starkiller> i seen puppy and damn small lunix,  wow thanks guys ill try lubuntu right nwo:P
[03:58] <kostkon> starkiller, lubuntu yeah. p3 is not that old
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> starkiller:  whats your ram in that box?
[03:58] <kostkon> starkiller, and 1.2ghz is fast enough
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> !info E17 | Kryptis3
[03:58] <starkiller> 300 ram
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[03:58] <garcianc_> srtfmx, sorry, I am stumped. I have run a bunch of distros over pxe before and never ran into that.  The closest thing was with Slitaz wanting the interface to be eth1 after boot.
[03:58] <kostkon> starkiller, hmm
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> starkiller:  300mb?  it would be a big benifit to track down more ram.
[03:58] <Kryptis3> lotuspsychje, What?
[03:59] <Kryptis3> ubottu I'm not using Saucy.
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> Kryptis3: seems like they removed enlightment
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> Kryptis3:  ubottu  is a bot..
[03:59] <starkiller> well ram its like 25 bucks and im gonna sell this pc for 50 dollarsa lol
[03:59] <srtfmx> garcianc_ : can you tell me what setting you used to do this . Is it via ftp or nfs or http
[03:59] <Kryptis3> lotuspsychje, I don't use enlightenment.
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> i have a pile of old ram chips from dead pc's :)
[03:59] <Kryptis3> Dr_Willis, I was not aware of that.
[03:59] <kostkon> starkiller, ebay
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> !find eterm
[04:00] <jmgk> where can I find european users on IRC?
[04:00] <kostkon> starkiller, check its type, either rambus or sdram
[04:00] <DevZero> i'm trying to resurrect an old dell 2400 for a senior citizen who only wants to surf a few websites...however, the onboard graphics are very buggy on linux and flash (i.e. youtube) is unwatchable.  so i want to buy a refurb card for it, but am not sure about compatibility.  how does someone know definitively if something is compatible in these situations with older hardware?  specifically, i'd like to know if this ca
[04:00] <garcianc_> if you are just booting the image, all you need is tftp. If you want to do a net install, then the only method I have tried before is the netboot where all the installation files are downloaded from the internet repositories (http)
[04:00] <KillSnooki> I am so sorry but can someone help me pretty please? I am following a guide to install ubuntu on my lenovo y500. I booted into text with nomodeset and need to find where ubuntu was installed to mount it and edit the grub.conf
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> DevZero: lubuntu or xubuntu maybe
[04:01] <kostkon> alis|jmgk
[04:01] <kostkon> damn
[04:01] <kostkon> !alis|jmgk
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | KillSnooki
[04:01] <jmgk> ok
[04:01] <jmgk> what do I type ecatly ?
[04:01] <DevZero> lotuspsychje: i've installed peppermint on it
[04:01] <DevZero> but i need a better card
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> jmgk: wich country specific?
[04:01] <soy_el_pulpo> does chromeOS qualifies as a linux flavor?
[04:02] <jmgk> well
[04:02] <mheinke> sort of
[04:02] <jmgk> eastern Europe
[04:02] <kostkon> jmgk, e.g. /msg alis *europe* or /msg alis *european* something like that
[04:02] <jmgk> so Poland Gemrany etc
[04:02] <msdw01> killSnooki how are you trying to instal it
[04:02] <jmgk> Belarus
[04:02] <FloodBot1> jmgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> soy_el_pulpo:  chromeos uses linux
[04:02] <starkiller> its sd ram
[04:02] <KillSnooki> right lotu, I used it correctly and was able to get it to boot into text mode. I need to sudo mount /mnt/newinstall to /dev/sdax but do not know how to figure out which sdax partition it installed on
[04:02] <soy_el_pulpo> Hi Dr_Willis!
[04:02] <KillSnooki> I tried typing mount but do not see any sda's.
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> jmgk: join #ubuntu-countryname here
[04:03] <starkiller> the box says 300 ram upgratable to 500 ram lol funny
[04:03] <KillSnooki> msdw, I installed it using the graphics on a SSD as the only OS
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> !pl | jmgk
[04:03] <jmgk> its quite dead
[04:03] <kostkon> jmgk, /msg alis list * term* sorry. but if you mean #ubuntu channel then ^^
[04:03] <soy_el_pulpo> Dr_Willis: so it qualifies. what branch it uses?
[04:03] <KillSnooki> by changing the grub.cfg and adding the nomodeset but when I rebooted I need to use the liveCD to edit the new grub.cfg on the system to also include the nomodeset
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> soy_el_pulpo:  no idea.  it uses linux is all i know. Check the wikipedia
[04:03] <kostkon> starkiller, yeah, most p3 mobo could accept at most 2gb of ram
[04:04] <zero_coder> hello , my ubuntu is becoming unresponsive at times
[04:04] <soy_el_pulpo> Dr_Willis: I will, thkx
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> !details | zero_coder
[04:04] <garcianc_> srtfmx, sorry I did not highlight my answer above for you.  netboot, afaik, attempts a http install from the internet repositories unless you customize your own.
[04:05] <starkiller> kostkon and dr will thanks for the advice im gonna try lubuntu right now and ill be back :P
[04:05] <Kryptis3> Has anyone else experienced Unity and Gnome2 faultiness after installing Cinnamon DE?
[04:05] <jmgk> thanks
[04:05] <qin> jmgk: besides /whois everybody on whole irc you can just try more social networks, or channels. http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[04:05] <zero_coder> ubottu, i am using ubuntu 13.04 (raring ringtail) and every couple of minutes its become unresponsive for a second or so
[04:05] <jmgk> ok
[04:05] <srtfmx> garcianc_ thanks mate for the help i will look into it
[04:06] <krz> has anyone upgraded via the popup from 13.04 to 13.10? is it stable
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> zero_coder: check your logs at /var/log/syslog.1 and find any usefull errors
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> krz: all depends on your machine, 13.10 is stable but upgrades are always tricky
[04:06] <Kryptis3> krz, You have to update by January.
[04:06] <qin> krz: You do want to have back ups up to date anyway
[04:07] <zero_coder> lotuspsychje, nope i think
[04:07] <Kryptis3> krz, 13.04 support stops after January.
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> zero_coder: no errors?
[04:07] <zero_coder> i dont think so
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> !13.04
[04:08] <zero_coder> its just that its becoming unresponsive at times , but only for a second though
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> zero_coder: what was default Os on your machine before ubuntu?
[04:08] <zero_coder> default os?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> hmm. thought the factoid gave the e-o-l date
[04:08] <zero_coder> there is a windows running alongside
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> zero_coder: win7?
[04:08] <zero_coder> win 8
[04:09] <zero_coder> and its in a pretty bad condition right now , virus :P
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> zero_coder: can you pastebin syslog.1 anyway mate?
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> zero_coder: what brand is your machine?
[04:10] <Guest38418> i have two monitors but only one is detected
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | Guest38418
[04:10] <zero_coder> toshiba
[04:10] <Guest38418> do i need to confgure xorg
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> Guest38418:  run the moniors/displays setting tool
[04:14] <Guest38418> Dr_Willis:  in settings ?
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> Guest38418:  do you see somthing in settings that mentions displays or monitors?
[04:15] <SomeDamnBody> hey, I am doing some practice buffer overflows in a class
[04:15] <SomeDamnBody> and I want to make my problems really simple
[04:15] <SomeDamnBody> how can I turn off DEP?
[04:16] <Guest38418> Dr_Willis: displays > detect monitors but it only detects 1
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> Guest38418:  and is this a laptop?
[04:18] <Guest38418> Dr_Willis: it is a desktop ,
[04:18] <Guest38418> but it thinks the one monitor is "laptop"
[04:19] <KillSnooki> Did anyone here start brand new with Linux and study for the LPIC? I am just curious how long to expect someone brand new using it as their primary OS and studying would take to be able to pass it
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> Guest38418:  so both monittors are on the same video card? were both plugged in when the pc booted up?
[04:19] <Guest38418> Dr_Willis: yes one vga one dvi
[04:22] <Guest38418> Dr_Willis: if i run xrandr only one monitor will show
[04:22] <Guest38418> if i upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 both monitors will work
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> is that a question or a statement? What is this video cards chipset?
[04:22] <Guest38418> when i initially set this up i only had one monitor
[04:23] <Guest38418> Dr_Willis: it is a statement
[04:24] <doug_> hi
[04:24] <doug_> I need some assistance
[04:25] <doug_> I'm trying to get this driver for my controller to run at startup
[04:27] <Guest38418> it is a gforce ENgTS450
[04:27] <eonsai> hi all, just finished installing ubuntu "beside" windows 8. Everything works OK but there is no grub menu. I get into each install by booting either by UEFI or Legacy at start-up. Is this the way it's supposed to be? I followed a guide, shrunk my windows 8 partition, installed via netbootin i just don't want to start re-installing all my gear unless I know it's all good. Can anyone verify?
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> startup - meaning , user login, or system boots up doug_ ?
[04:27] <KillSnooki> Would anyone be willing to spend about an hour or two with me to get ubuntu installed in exchange for a paypal reward? I'm desperate.
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> Guest38418:  you are using the nvidia drivers or the open sourced drivers?
[04:27] <eonsai> sorry not each install *each OS*
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> KillSnooki:  just describe the issue here.
[04:28] <doug_> system boot
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> doug_:  and what are you starting exactly?
[04:28] <doug_> can I just put it in the rc.local file?
[04:28] <KillSnooki> I've been trying Dr_Willis...
[04:28] <doug_> xboxdrv
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> doug_:  depend son what it is. ;)   whats the exact command you use to start it and what does it do
[04:28] <doug_> it is for the xbox controller hooked to my machine
[04:28] <Guest38418> thaught i was now i am activating
[04:29] <kostkon>  !find xboxdrv
[04:29] <femian> Hola como están. Consulta, quiero instalar el xubuntu 12.04.3 pero cuando llego a la parte que se ve el sistema operativo que esta instalado y la otra partición, me dice que no hay ningun sistema operativo instalado y no me muestra la otra partición, como que el disco está vacio, pero en realidad si tengo un so instalado y otra particion, saben como lo puedo solucionar?
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> !info xboxdrv
[04:29] <Guest38418> Dr_Willis: activating nvidia drivers
[04:29] <kostkon> !info xboxdrv
[04:29] <doug_> command now is sudo xboxdrv --next-config --chatpad --next-config --mouse --silent
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> doug_:  if it dosent have a X gui.  you can run things from rc.local  they will run as root autoimatically
[04:29] <qin> !es | femian
[04:29] <doug_> no gui
[04:29] <Guest38418> Dr_Willis: shouldn't it work without the nvidia drivers though
[04:29] <KillSnooki> I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop with sli video cards. When I try to launch it by default nothing loads. I am using linux live usb creator and created a bootable usb drive and edited the grub.cfg to include nomodeset=1. Now when I boot from the usb only 1/8 of my screen shows and it has 3 copies running
[04:30] <doug_> so I need to put the "sudo" part in the rc.local then?
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> Guest38418:  no idea   - i always install the nvidia drivers.. and my 2nd monitor   auto-turns on when i plug itin
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> doug_:  rc.local all runs as root. :)  so correct.. no 'sudo' needed
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> and you may want to end the command with a &  just in case it dosent 'return'
[04:30] <doug_> ok, thank you for your help
[04:31] <limerulez> hi
[04:31] <femian> ubottu, ya entre a ubuntu-es, pero nadie me responde...
[04:31] <Guest38418> Dr_Willis: ok, still downloading, then we know it will require  a restart to check
[04:31] <limerulez> test chat
[04:31] <KillSnooki> I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop with sli video cards. When I try to launch it by default nothing loads. I am using linux live usb creator and created a bootable usb drive and edited the grub.cfg to include nomodeset=1. Now when I boot from the usb only 1/8 of my screen shows and it has 3 copies running. Any idea how to get just one copy to run?
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> KillSnooki:  and what is the video card?  sounds like its booting with a video glitz
[04:31] <qin> limerulez: /j #test
[04:32] <KillSnooki> it's dula geforce 650m nvidia
[04:32] <limerulez> ok
[04:32] <KillSnooki> dual
[04:33] <Guest38418> Dr_Willis: if the  nividia drivers don't solve it where should i look? its late , gotta head to bed
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> KillSnooki:  a dirty way i installed to a problem system once was to do a 'full' install to a 8gb flash drive.. then using a 2nd  text only live usb to boot.. imaged  with 'dd' that  8gb flash onto the hd of the  the problem pc.  I then had a text mode boot on the problem pc. i could also ssh in and try to fix the other issues the box had.
[04:34] <femian> Hello how are. See, I want to install the xubuntu 12.04.3 but when I get to the part you see the operating system is installed and the other partition, it tells me that there is no operating system installed and does not show me the other partition, such that the disk is empty, but in reality if I have installed and another partition so, know how I can fix?
[04:34] <Guest38418> i also noticed that 13.10 if i install and log in, it will fail to load a gnome desktop, and display an error message that only lets me report the issue
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> Guest38418:  i rarely have dual monitor issues with my nvidia-driver systems. I dont know what the open sourced drivers support in that area
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> sounds like weird video driver issues tome.
[04:35] <Guest38418> Dr_Willis: ok thx, off t restart
[04:35] <Paulus68_1> Dr_willis: killSnooky: perhaps this link might be helpfull  http://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/install-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu.html
[04:36] <KillSnooki> Thanks Paul but I cannot even get to the install menu ;\
[04:36] <femian> ?¿?
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> KillSnooki:  a full install to a usb flash. then instgall the drivers. :) may be a way to test if they work or not. but i have lots of flash drives for that sort of testing.
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> theres also the minimal installer that uses the text mode installer
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> !mini
[04:37] <marz> kostkon: Done with updating and rebooting computer
[04:38] <KillSnooki> Ok, I will start researching how to do a full install to a usb :( This is my very first interaction with linux and I have been working on this for over a month chasing my tail everywhere
[04:38] <femian> can anyone help?
[04:38] <KillSnooki> I start researching one thing then have to research something for that and then research for the third thing
[04:40] <Kamilion> is there any way to disable plymouth?
[04:41] <Kamilion> i've got a machine that has no video adapter, and it lags for two minutes every boot with this message: [  130.402359] init: plymouth-stop pre-start process (1163) terminated with status 1
[04:41] <eonsai> hi guys. Just installed ubuntu beside windows 8 but there is no grub menu I have to load ubuntu via legacy mode what have I done wrong?
[04:41] <marz> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04, I am having problems installing the broadcom wireless driver, how do i fix it?
[04:43] <msdw01> eonsai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[04:46] <James> hi
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> KillSnooki:  same as you install to an internal hd.. partion it.. and install. but you will have todo that install from a differnt pc i imagine
[04:47] <DeluxGhost> good afternoon
[04:47] <marz> Need help, I just installed ubuntu 12.04 and I'm having problems installing the broadcom wireless driver
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> marz:  you really should give the channel more details. not just repeate the same thing over and over.
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> or you will get the same factoids spat at you as earlier today
[04:47] <marz> Dr_Willis:  I'm sorry, I'm really new to Linux/Ubuntu. I was told to update and reboot, I already done that
[04:48] <marz> Dr_Willis: I dont' know where to go from here
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> marz:  rerun the addational drivers tool yet?
[04:49] <marz> Dr_Willis: Still gives me the same error: "Installation of the driver failed".
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> marz:  and what is the chipset and what driver package is it trying to install?>
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> you can install the same package via the cli and look for error messages
[04:51] <marz> Dr_Willis:  How am I gonna do that? I mean, what commands should I use?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> lspci
[04:53] <excalibr> in 13.10 where are those dash scopes kept?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> I think that !broadcom wiki page mentioned how to determine your exact chipset and what commands to use to instgall the various drivers marz
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> marz:  so 'lspci' and check out the broadcom factoid site
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> !broadcom
[04:54] <marz> Dr_Willis: okay thanks, let me read that oen
[04:56] <xgeek-cub> hello
[04:57] <xgeek-cub> I want to install wgetpaste but i am in saucy; any ideas?
[04:59] <redjustice> aloha everyone
[05:00] <xgeek-cub> Reacto: aloha
[05:00] <redjustice> anyone around want to tell me why it's a bad idea to install ubuntu server onto a thumb drive?
[05:01] <SchrodingersScat> redjustice: is it a bad idea?
[05:01] <SchrodingersScat> redjustice: sounds like one of many options.
[05:01] <ChrisMorgan> redjustice: performance?
[05:01] <ChrisMorgan> Clang 3.2 isn't working properly for me since upgrading to 13.10 (64-bit); libclang-common-dev used to put the files like stddef.h in /usr/include/clang/3.2/include/, now they're in /usr/lib/llvm-3.2/lib/clang/3.2/include/, but the include path hasn't been changed, so it can't compile things. Any ideas?
[05:02] <redjustice> so, i'm looking to run ubuntu server on a box with 4 sata ports, which i'd all like to be for storage drives in a software raid
[05:02] <redjustice> and i don't know how to do that, other than put ubuntu on a usb stick, so i'm wondering if that's a bad idea
[05:03] <cortexA9> hello
[05:03] <redjustice> aloha, cortexA9
[05:04] <Bauer1> Another issue I have, is when linux is booting, after a few seconds, keyboard stops working, until I login into password-less account (child account), and then re-login into mine, then keyboard works... I dont know against which package to report this
[05:04] <xgeek-cub> redjustice: you should put your ubuntu somewhere; maybe i got you wrong; but you can install ubuntu on a raid scheme
[05:05] <Kishlay> Hi,  The shutdown button in my ubuntu 13.10 is not working... please help
[05:06] <redjustice> xgeek-cub: i'd be making the software raid with ubuntu, so it seems i'd need it installed elsewhere, thus my wondering if installing it on a flash drive is a bad idea
[05:07] <cortexA9> Ubuntu is good ?
[05:07] <msdw> redjustice: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html
[05:07] <xgeek-cub> redjustice : you are wrong
[05:08] <cortexA9> what is the best version
[05:08] <xgeek-cub> redjustice: look at the link
[05:08] <xgeek-cub> AnyBodY
[05:08] <cortexA9> 10.04 LTS 12.04 LTS 12.10 13.04 13.10 ?
[05:08] <xgeek-cub> cortexA9 : go with 13.04
[05:08] <cortexA9> why 13.04 ?
[05:09] <xgeek-cub> I want to install a paste client; like wgetpaste COuld anyone help?
[05:11] <cortexA9> how to help
[05:11] <cortexA9> the community
[05:12] <eonsai> msdw, thanks bud
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> !info pastebinit
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> !find wgetpaste
[05:15] <cortexA9> anyone have an hp notebook ?
[05:16] <ChrisMorgan> cortexA9: HP 6710b
[05:17] <thrasher194> is ubuntu touch good on nexus 7 (2012)?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !nexus7 | trash
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !ask | cortexA9
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> thrasher194:  from what i see in reviwws. the touch OS - supports the barest miniman of os features a phone can have tobe 'useable' and not much else. ;)
[05:19] <sam113101> guys, why are my shortcuts broken
[05:19] <sam113101> I can't switch workspaces with my shortcuts
[05:19] <sam113101> ctrl+alt+left, right, etc. don't work
[05:20] <msdw> check in the shortcuts settings
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  see if they work for a newly made user.
[05:20] <sam113101> workspaces are enabled, are these are the right shortcuts
[05:20] <cortexA9> because i had suspend problems with ubuntu and i need to find a good version..
[05:20] <thrasher194> ok, so im on cm10.2
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> cortexA9: wich version did you have those problems?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> cortexA9:  try the latest release of ubuntu. it will have the latest supported ubuntu kernel version.
[05:20] <thrasher194> :)
[05:21] <cortexA9> yea with 13.10
[05:21] <kna20> I have a question about Ubuntu's install process and a problem I'm facing
[05:21] <thrasher194> SysInfo: uname: Linux 3.11.0-12-generic
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> !ask | kna20
[05:21] <thrasher194> :)
[05:21] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: it does work with the guest user
[05:21] <cortexA9> maybe another version is good..
[05:21] <cortexA9> i can try 12.04 ?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> cortexA9: sure 12.04 is LTS so
[05:22] <cortexA9> because i read is certified.
[05:23] <cortexA9> for my notebook
[05:23] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: so, how do I fix it?
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> cortexA9: try out a few versions, and stick to the one that works flawless for you
[05:24] <scottalan> I just install ufw and when it's enabled it greatly hinders site performance. Is this normal? Would I be better off just going straight to iptables?
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | scottalan
[05:25] <scottalan> I've been doing some reading and looking at the logs but can't seem to pinpoint the problem
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> scottalan: maybe describe what specific filtering you looking for?
[05:27] <cortexA9> ok lotuspsychje thanks
[05:27] <cortexA9> so 13.10 is not compatible right ?
[05:27] <cortexA9> with all notebooks..
[05:28] <linu> hi i just converted a png to ppm by mogrify -format ppm *.png  and replace it into drivers/video/logo/ in kernel it shows the folowing error http://pastebin.com/UzTV5jB1 can you help me
[05:29] <scottalan> lotuspsychje: just basic filtering for now. ssh, samba, a few ports. Is that what you mean by filtering? Just allow/deny for now
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> scottalan: you have no router firewall enabled that could fight with iptables?
[05:31] <msdw> scottalan: have you checked the ubuntu manual it does give you examples
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> cortexA9: 13.10 can work for your device but might need some tuning
[05:31] <linu>  http://pastebin.com/UzTV5jB1 anybody know ?
[05:31] <scottalan> lotuspsychje: didn't think of that. I'll look into it. Thanks for the tip
[05:32] <msdw> linu: use the command that is tells you
[05:32] <linu> msdw, pnmnoraw ?
[05:32] <SPEEDWAVE> anyone, when i press ctrl+a its not selecting all my text file?
[05:33] <msdw> linu: yes
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  if a newly made user works.. and the old user has issues.. that points to a setting issue with the problem user. you could clean out/remove old config files untill you reset enogh settings back to default and it should start working.
[05:35] <cortexA9> because i very need the suspend mode..
[05:37] <cortexA9> please help me
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> theres also hibernate instead of suspend.. I dont use either mode
[05:37] <cortexA9> how to fix suspend mode..
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> My rather modest netbook boots to ubuntu in less then 60 sec.
[05:37] <cortexA9> mmm
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> suspend issues i imagine have a lot of threads on askubuntu.com and the forums.
[05:38] <cortexA9> oh
[05:38] <cortexA9> on HP ?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> on Laptops and netbooks  and even some desktops....
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> on EVERYTHING. ;)
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> theres to much varity in the hardware
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> some work.. some dont. some semi-work
[05:42] <cortexA9> Dr_Willis: that's bad :(
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> i never use or really need suspend or hibernate.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> even on windows.
[05:42] <cortexA9> Dr_Willis: because you shut down right everytime right ?
[05:43] <cortexA9> Dr_Willis: because you shut down everytime right ?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> desktop machines have 4+week uptimes... laptops - boot up in under 60 sec.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> I think suspend might work on this netbook..  but im not sure. I have a swap file. not a swap partition
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> desktop machine. i got swap files also . not swap partitions
[05:46] <cortexA9> Dr_Willis: now i try to install 13.10
[05:46] <cortexA9> and i don't care about suspend..
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, I'ne used swap files at times, funny thing is with the ssd any fairly light swapping on the swap partition I see no difference, I have hardly had swapping going on though.
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> I've*
[05:48] <Dispatch> Hello. How would I install ubuntu-non-native-extras ubuntu-restricted-extras and w32codecs (since medibuntu is no longer being hosted)?
[05:48] <Dispatch> in ubuntu 13.10
[05:48] <cortexA9> because i need a linux system installed.
[05:48] <cortexA9> dual booting
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> i dident even have a swap file or partion on my desktop box for months. ;)
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Dispatch:  ive not needed w32codecs in.. ages...
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> Dispatch, mediabuntu had the libdvdcss2 the restricted-extras are in the repos, you can still install the other.
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu-restricted-extras and i can play anything ive ever found
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> libdvdccs and run that script it includes.. for dvd playback.
[05:49] <Dispatch> E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-non-native-extras
[05:49] <Dispatch> E: Unable to locate package w32codecs
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> ive never recall ever using  ubuntu-non-native-extras
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> never ever. ;)
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> in my ages of ubuntu ussage.
[05:50] <cortexA9> because i lost many time with unstable system hehe
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> Dispatch, make sure the partners is open and run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:50] <cortexA9> i need one stable
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> cortexA9:  use LTS release if you dont want to upgrade in the near future. or the latest release if you want to stay with the newest packages.
[05:51] <cortexA9> i like upgrading my system.
[05:51] <cortexA9> i think i use 14.04 repositories :P
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> then you have answered the question as to what release to install it seems
[05:51] <Dispatch> Dr_Willis: http://pastebin.com/fVnigTTZ
[05:51] <cortexA9> after 13.10
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> Dispatch, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs  What release are you running the ones in that link are eol, at least 10.04 the desktop s and the other fully.
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> Dispatch:  notice the years that post mentions?   its over 3 years old
[05:53] <cortexA9> maybe with 14.04 the suspend mode work Dr_Willis :P
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> cortexA9:  no idea. doesnt matter to me one way or the other.
[05:53] <Dispatch> I know this Dr_Willis
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> ive not needed w32codecs or medibuntu in years.
[05:54] <cortexA9> Dr_Willis: you have problems of wifi or something ?
[05:54] <cortexA9> *had
[05:55] <leif_> is there a ubuntu app for sever stuff
[05:55] <Dispatch> cortexA9 I accidently removed my dnsmasq-base package once... oops
[05:55] <Dispatch> never again
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> cortexA9:  i have very few hardware issues in ubuntu.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> leif_:  thats a little vague
[05:55] <Kamilion> Dr_Willis: assuming you're not using netflix?
[05:55] <IanHernandez> Is Codename here?
[05:55] <leif_> apatche joomla etc
[05:55] <Dispatch> leif_ could you define server stuff?
[05:56] <leif_> Dispatch, web sever stuff
[05:56] <Kamilion> leif_: juju
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Kamilion:  i have netflix working on ubuntu
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> !netflix
[05:56] <Dispatch> as in what leif_ like hosting a server? creating a server? what type of server? mysql? postgres? apache2?
[05:57] <msdw> Dispath: you want to install server programs or qhat
[05:57] <msdw> what
[05:57] <Dispatch> not me msdw
[05:57] <Dispatch> ^^^^^^
[05:57] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: could it be that?: I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/sam/.compiz/session/1022aa078c17b270cd138302971146482800000015610031"
[05:57] <leif_> yeah hosting a joomla sever whit apacthe msql that king
[05:57] <Kamilion> Dispatch: that might help -- since the primary reason for moonlight was netflix.
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  IO = input output. could be the file is bad.
[05:57] <sam113101> it doesn't exist
[05:57] <Kamilion> leif_: https://juju.ubuntu.com/
[05:58] <leif_> ok
[05:58] <msdw> leif: install the lamp server
[05:58] <sam113101> what are these files used for, anyway?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  you could go hardcore and move all your config and other .* dirs in your home to some backup directory and reset everything back to defaults  then move back what  dirs you need
[05:58] <msdw> then intall joomla
[05:58] <sam113101> but that's quite time consuming
[05:58] <Dispatch> what I'm trying to do is play mms streams in ubuntu
[05:59] <Kamilion> aka, view streaming internet video, likely with microsoft DRM applied.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> Dispatch:  i recall using vlc to  play mms streams. or streamtuner, or tunapie
[05:59] <Kamilion> i used to have good results with asfrecorder
[06:00] <Kamilion> but it's rare to find an stream without DRM turned on from a commercial source, these days...
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> other then Public Radio. ;) i cant think of any streams i listen to.
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> or the various shoutcast radio stations
[06:02] <Kamilion> ah, audio stream. I've had good results with totem and shoutcast; but I don't know of any mms:// audio streams anymore, unless it's from one of those '100000 channel free television' applications on windows.
[06:02] <KillSnooki> Well, another 12 hours waste trying to get ubuntu to install unsuccessfully.
[06:03] <Kamilion> KillSnooki: hardware issues, configuration issues, or pebcak?
[06:04] <Dispatch> gd-mf-ss-bwnm-cs-sob
[06:04] <KillSnooki> Isn't all hardware issues configuration issues? :) My issue is that I am completely new to Ubuntu and trying to install it on a laptop with sli video cards into uefi mode and have no clue what I am doing or even how to troubleshoot
[06:04] <Dispatch> uuuurrrrrGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[06:04] <KillSnooki> Soo I am just going through 50 billion pages not understanding anything ;\
[06:04] <Dispatch> will free-tux-tv play mms?
[06:05] <Dispatch> in 13.10?
[06:05] <Kamilion> KillSnooki: well, there's your first problem. Drop uefi, it's nothing but pain, wait a year or so.
[06:05] <Dispatch> or TV-Maxe?
[06:05] <nevyn> uefi isn't hard.. it sortof works or it doesn't
[06:05] <Kamilion> KillSnooki: there should be no user-discernable differences between running ubuntu on UEFI and 'BIOS' fallback.
[06:06] <Kamilion> so unless you're trying to keep windows 8/8.1 and set up some dual boot stuff
[06:06] <nevyn> Kamilion: but why mess with it.
[06:06] <Kamilion> avoid uefi like the plague
[06:06] <KillSnooki> It's a nightmare...
[06:06] <nevyn> ubuntu installs on native uefi without problems
[06:06] <Kamilion> nevyn: tell that to the person saying 'it's a nightmare'.
[06:06] <nevyn> and it lets you boot your win8 without messing about in the uefi setup menu
[06:06] <wyattderp> I'm running Ubuntu 13.10 on UEFI standard.
[06:06] <dr_willis_> KillSnooki:  i thought yiu had video issues. not uefi idsues
[06:06] <Kamilion> KillSnooki: had a friend with a brand new clevo laptop; no end to uefi problems too.
[06:07] <Dispatch> I...
[06:07] <Dispatch> Like...
[06:07] <Dispatch> Big...
[06:07] <nevyn> don't get me wrong. I can't get my prefered linux to boot still but ubuntu it all works.
[06:07] <Dispatch> Butts and I cannot lie
[06:07] <FloodBot1> Dispatch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <KillSnooki> The worse part is the very first time I installed ubuntu on it I had everything running great! I wanted to install fedora instead so I could get a 'less user friendly' OS and try to learn more by less working hah
[06:07] <KillSnooki> and now nothing works.
[06:07]  * Kamilion laughs
[06:08] <Kamilion> yeah, that was probably fedora's 'smarter' uefi scripts mucking around in the uefivars
[06:08] <KillSnooki> I cannot get Ubuntu to install under Legacy either though. It goes through and installs but never boots. Grub doesn't install from what I can tell BUT again I have no idea what I am doing ;)
[06:09] <Kamilion> sounds like fedora might have enabled secure boot for you.
[06:09] <KillSnooki> My BIOS does not have any options for Secure Boot. I've looked for it. My BIOS is pretty lame actually for such a high-end laptop
[06:09] <Kamilion> you'll have to go through and purge it's UEFI keys from your UEFI firmware interface -- should find an option around like 'clear enrolled fingerprints'
[06:10] <KillSnooki> ooooo, how do I do that? I just ran killdisk and wrote 00's to everything
[06:10] <KillSnooki> Would that do it?
[06:10] <Kamilion> 'Setup' is different from the UEFI firmware on some systems. And the only f--king way I've found to get into it is by using windows 8's 'shutdown to firmware' thing. >.<
[06:11] <Kamilion> i am not aware of another way to trip it, myself, other than pulling any SATA/USB 'disk' devices out of the machine and attempting to boot it; which should drop you into the firmware.
[06:11] <Kamilion> is this a Sager or Clevo laptop?
[06:12] <KillSnooki> I'm googling to find out how to get into these keys.... I have never heard of them
[06:12] <KillSnooki> It's a Lenovo Y500
[06:12] <Kamilion> k. Fedora uses gummiboot for uefi booting; and it tries to enroll keys by default, last I checked in F19
[06:13] <Kamilion> iirc, ubuntu uses 'slim', not gummiboot
[06:13] <KillSnooki> Everything went downhill after fedora
[06:13] <Kamilion> but I could be mistaken
[06:13] <KillSnooki> everything
[06:13] <airtonix> oh ok
[06:13] <airtonix> run for the hills?
[06:13] <Kamilion> i've turned off uEFI after several bad experiences last year. Either works or it doesn't. Once it doesn't, that's it, game over. >.<
[06:14] <KillSnooki> I was reading somewhere that uefi helps with ssd's speed
[06:14] <Kamilion> cause it's usually because i've pooched the keystore
[06:14] <KillSnooki> hah
[06:14] <KillSnooki> pooched ;)
[06:14] <Kamilion> only boot speed
[06:14] <KillSnooki> oh man and does it boot up quick with it. I had Windows 8 and honestly booted in less than 15 seconds
[06:14] <KillSnooki> from button to operation
[06:15] <Kamilion> uefi basically 'configures memory', brings up multiprocessor, configures the SATA controller, and then boots.
[06:15] <Kamilion> usually 0.05 seconds, just enough time for the display backlight to start coming on... lol
[06:15] <Kamilion> doesn't even start up the usb controller in quickboot
[06:16] <Kamilion> OS gets to handle all that fun stuff over ACPI
[06:16] <Kamilion> object is to get the OS dealing with it ASAP
[06:18] <Kamilion> and do nothing but things that get to that goal. Thankfully, most modern nvidia and amd graphics chips execute their own boot firmware independantly of their host system and are usually ready to go a few hundred microseconds after power's applied.
[06:18] <KillSnooki> oh snap, I turned off uefi and reinstalled. I have a desktop now. I just wonder if I will have the battery problem. I was experiencing issues charging. No matter how drained the battery was ubuntu would say '3 minutes to charge' and basically just try to ruin my battery
[06:18] <Kamilion> KillSnooki: go to the 'detail' page of the power graphs and look at the 'current charge rate'
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> KillSnooki:  or its just miss-reading the info and doing nothing to your battery
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> from what ive read - its rather hard to 'ruin' a battery in mondern hardware these days
[06:19] <jony_easyrider> how can I launch: sudo chmod 0755 /usr/local/bin/[file1]and[file2] in a single command?
[06:19] <Kamilion> hint: 'power gauges' are usually read only -- the OS is generally not able to write to that device unless it's an apple device with firmware in the battery ;)
[06:19] <KillSnooki> I analyzed the graphs last time. Yeah I just unplugged my laptop and at full charge it says only 7 minutes remaining at 100% capacity
[06:19] <Kamilion> jony_easyrider: by specifying both files to chmod?
[06:19] <xmetal> brb ... playing with batch PDF to Image programs/scripts
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> chmod 755 /path/to/file1  /path/to/file2
[06:19] <Kamilion> jony_easyrider: sudo chmod 0755 /usr/local/bin/file1 /usr/local/bin/file2
[06:20] <Kamilion> jony_easyrider: sudo chmod 0755 /usr/local/bin/files_starting_with_this_* /usr/local/bin/singlefile /usr/local/bin/wildcard_again_*
[06:20] <Kamilion> etc, etc
[06:21] <Kamilion> if there's only a few characters differce and they're the same length, you can use a sequence of ? to glob
[06:22] <Kamilion> jony_easyrider: sudo chmod 0755 /usr/local/bin/local-????-video
[06:23] <Shirakawasuna> I've been having issues with team fortress 2 fps lately (when in groups of people, I get an unplayable frame rate). I think the issue appeared some time around last Friday. I've tried a few different things trying to get it to work, including upgrading to saucy from precise (no luck). One of the things I did on Friday was update the kernel from one 3.8.0 revision to another. I have two questions: 1) Anyone know what's up with
[06:23] <Shirakawasuna>  my frame rate issue by chance? 2) If I want to install e.g. a 3.8 kernel in saucy without compiling my own, what are my options?
[06:23] <Kamilion> try to be as specific as you can. <3
[06:23] <Kamilion> Shirakawasuna: amd or nvidia? I heard some AMD patches were coming in 3.12
[06:23] <Shirakawasuna> Kamaris: nvidia
[06:24] <leif_> join #dansk-gruppen
[06:24] <Shirakawasuna> it's strangely dependent on being around crowds - not sure what it means. There must be some effect that appears more often in crowds (like particle effects)
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> i still say avoide ati/amd ;)
[06:24] <Kamilion> Shirakawasuna: Please locate a can of compressed air or a source of compressed air that is under 30PSI, and remove the dust from your video card.
[06:24] <Shirakawasuna> Not sure if that's possible, it's a laptop :)
[06:24] <Kamilion> Shirakawasuna: modern cards have analog limits when they reach thermal
[06:25] <yesyayen> hi all,  i found size of my ubuntu desktop screen using wnck, but how to find the size of side menu bar and top menu bar, so that i can subtract them out to find total usable screen size. Doing this to place a window by giving screen coordinates
[06:25] <Kamilion> remove the dust from your laptop's gpu cooler fins then
[06:25] <jony_easyrider> Kamilion, ty
[06:25] <Shirakawasuna> Kamilion: I'll try it, but the issue I'm getting seems to crowd-dependent for that to be the case. The instant I exit a crowd my fps shoot up to 60. When I enter a crowd they go to 3.
[06:25] <Kamilion> Shirakawasuna: there's a good chance it's clocked itself down ~200mhz and things that were 'playable' before suddenly drop.
[06:26] <Shirakawasuna> yeah, could be
[06:26] <Kamilion> level geometry is less complex than character models
[06:26] <Kamilion> clean that sucker out and performance should return
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> compressed air gentlly applied. ;)  dont blow the chips off the MB with 120psi. ;)
[06:26] <Shirakawasuna> I turned off 'powermizer' in an attempt to do that, but thermal limits probably aren't controlled by it
[06:26] <Kamilion> aye -- 30PSI or lower
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> been there -- done that.. )
[06:27] <Kamilion> correct, thermal limits are hardware preventing powermizer from moving *past* a certain setting
[06:27] <Kamilion> those P states are no longer advertised to powermizer
[06:27] <Kamilion> likely you got a little peice of lint or cathair that somehow clogged a number of fins solid
[06:28] <Kamilion> and it may take a careful disassembly and cleaning to discover and remove.
[06:28]  * Kamilion glares at his cat
[06:28] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[06:28] <Shirakawasuna> not super fun on a laptop, but at least it's a thinkpad
[06:28] <Kamilion> ifixit.com
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> the bi-anual cleaning of the pc. ;)
[06:28] <Kamilion> usually if they don't have a howto, i won't bother trying... ^_^
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> always seeing people running laptops from sitting on a bed, or the floor with carpeting..
[06:30] <Kamilion> and for those looking for laptops; Sager is usually a pretty good win. (Rebranded Clevo. Clevo, Compal, and Quanta make about 80% of the notebook computers on the market other than apple and sony.)
[06:30] <KillSnooki> I am still trying to get my head wrapped around what ppa's are
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> covering up the fan ports.. vacumeing up the dirt.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> !ppa | KillSnooki
[06:30] <Kamilion> KillSnooki: oh, they're wonderful. My favorite ubuntu feature.
[06:30] <KillSnooki> now.
[06:31] <KillSnooki> nice
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> KillSnooki:  a personal repository one can put stuff in
[06:31] <KillSnooki> Yeah ppa's seem pretttttttty fantastic
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> !manual | KillSnooki
[06:31] <Kamilion> KillSnooki: say you need/want nginx 1.4.1 instead of what comes with precise, or raring
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> actually ppa's are sort of a simple extension to how the apt system works. ;)
[06:31] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: I have found the file
[06:31] <Shirakawasuna> hrm
[06:31] <KillSnooki> Once you add a ppa and install a program - does the ubuntu software update program include that program?
[06:31] <Kamilion> KillSnooki: you can just find the nginx ppa and add the stable repo and poof, now it's recent.
[06:31] <Kamilion> yes.
[06:32] <KillSnooki> nice.
[06:32] <Kamilion> it 'overrides' any existing packages in the repo, in the order you add the PPAs.
[06:32] <Kamilion> (which can be annoying!)
[06:32] <Kamilion> there's a tool called... ppapurge or purgeppa, that will help manage them
[06:32] <yesyayen> hi, how to find the size of side menu bar and top menu bar in ubuntu desktop, so as to place a window by setting its coordinates accordingly?
[06:32] <Shirakawasuna> I'd like to try a kernel reversion before spending ~45 mins cleaning up the hardware. I downloaded and installed  the appropriate linux-image-generic, linux-headers, and linux-headers-generic packages from precise and installed w/ dpkg, but running dpkg-reconfigure for the nvidia package only builds modules for the saucy kernel. Do you know what's up there?
[06:33] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: the file is ~/.config/dconf/user, but if I get a new one well all of my settings are erased
[06:33] <sam113101> how can I edit it manually?
[06:33] <KillSnooki> hrm I will have to get this battery thing sorted out. I need to figure out how to dim my screen especially. I have used up "13%" of my battery in less than 10 minutes
[06:33] <Kamilion> Shirakawasuna: i think you'll have to install DKMS (the dell kernel module system), which will automatically build many optional or closed modules/shims for whatever kernel is running.
[06:34] <Kamilion> such as vmware tools, virtualbox guest additions, nvidia kernel shims, some broadcom ethernet adapters, etc...
[06:34] <Shirakawasuna> Kamaris: dkms is installed. Do you mean I need to reboot into the other kernel, then do the reconfigure / reinstall dkms?
[06:35] <Kamilion> yes
[06:35] <hellyeah> hey
[06:35] <Kamilion> dkms should lag on boot while those modules are built
[06:35] <hellyeah> how can i cancel screensaver?
[06:35] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[06:35] <Kamilion> otherwise the modules will always be built on the running kernel, so far as I remember.
[06:35] <Shirakawasuna> cool, I'll try it
[06:35] <Shirakawasuna> brb
[06:35] <Kamilion> hellyeah: There's usually two -- the screen blanking timeout in the power control panel, and the screensaver.
[06:36] <Kamilion> hellyeah: depending on which ubuntu, there may be three or four... screensaver, monitor blank, monitor sleep, monitor off.
[06:37] <hellyeah> 13.10
[06:37] <Kamilion> no, i mean, lubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu/xubuntu
[06:37] <hellyeah> just ubuntu
[06:38] <Kamilion> http://puu.sh/53AeB.png
[06:38] <Kamilion> all i can help with is lubuntu at the moment, sorry. :<
[06:38] <hellyeah> no problem
[06:38] <hellyeah> what lubuntu use as desktop environment
[06:38] <hellyeah> first time i heard lubntu
[06:38] <Kamilion> lxde and xfce
[06:39] <Kamilion> i added nautilus from gnome and gedit and gnome-terminal
[06:39] <hellyeah> lxde that must be new
[06:39] <Kamilion> nope, pretty old
[06:39] <hellyeah> hmm
[06:39] <cfhowlett> hellyeah, the distro is new, but lxde has been around
[06:39] <hellyeah> i heard xfc kde gnome fluxbox icewm wmaker
[06:39] <Kamilion> since 9.04 at least
[06:39] <snadge> how much is it worth to canonical the advertising in the unity dash? .. i hope its worth the dismay / shock to privacy advocates etc
[06:39] <Kamilion> i've had lubuntu
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> !lubuntu
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> wmaker - is old. ;) as is icewm
[06:39] <Kamilion> it became official in 10.04 i think
[06:39] <Raymii> https://www.digitalocean.com/promos/campaigns/51 - 60 dollar free digital ocean credit
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> snadge:  not really On topic here.. and we have heard it all befor.
[06:40] <cfhowlett> !spam|Raymii,
[06:40] <hellyeah> lubuntu has compiz?
[06:40] <Raymii> cfhowlett Nope, it works
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> hellyeah:  lubuntu uses openbox last i looked.
[06:40] <cfhowlett> Raymii, and it's offtopic ... as you know.
[06:40] <Kamilion> hellyeah: desktop effects? No. It has windows, and a taskbar.
[06:40] <Kamilion> hellyeah: :)
[06:40] <IfSixWasNine> hi, how can i create a cronjob wich gets called every hour between 04:00 and 20:00 daily? (sry for my dumb question) ;)
[06:40] <Raymii> cfhowlett Excuse me then.
[06:41] <Kamilion> hellyeah: works great in VMs or on machines with 256MB of ram.
[06:41] <cfhowlett> hellangel, it's been for low spec and older machines.  Less eye candy = more power
[06:41] <snadge> yeah fair enough.. im a long term ubuntu user, and normally i use gnome-panel (flashback) .. im not greatly concerned about, but apparently a number of other people are.. i was just wondering if it was worth it to Canonical.. im hoping it is :)
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> IfSixWasNine:  make it run at 4,5,6,7,8,9,........20...
[06:41] <Kamilion> snadge: hell, i used gnome-fallback for ages, just to get my dang cpu-meter widget
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> !cron
[06:41] <hellyeah> i can try t hat
[06:41] <hellyeah> ubuntu is kinda heavy
[06:42] <hellyeah> and as far as i understand lxde doesnt have unity thing
[06:42] <Kamilion> all i wanted was a freaking cpu meter... and 'ubuntu' didn't have one for unity yet
[06:42] <snadge> you mean like the cpu frequency indicator?
[06:42] <cfhowlett> hellangel, sudo apt-get install lxde will get you the desktop environment.  logout.  choose lxde session.  login
[06:42] <hellyeah> like system monitor?
[06:42] <IfSixWasNine> ahh, so when i separate them with , it will take all values, and separate with space "jumps" to the next param?
[06:42] <Kamilion> yeah, like system monitor.
[06:42] <KillSnooki> !nvidia
[06:43] <hellyeah> cfhowlett:  i guess you meant hellyeah
[06:43] <hellyeah> :D
[06:43] <hellyeah> Kamaris:
[06:43] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: how
[06:43] <cfhowlett> hellyeah, d'oh!
[06:43] <IfSixWasNine> thx for the link Dr_Willis
[06:43] <hellyeah> i really like to use panel upper panel and down panel
[06:43] <hellyeah> add some small programs like system monitor or force quit
[06:43] <Kamilion> http://files.sllabs.com/files/images/nolie.png
[06:43] <hellyeah> not it is not possible to do that
[06:43] <Kamilion> I loved System-monitor!
[06:44] <KillSnooki> The ubuntu restricted drivers for nvidia - will they push sli video cards?
[06:44] <hellyeah> i am not the big fan of unity
[06:44] <Kamilion> that's why there is choice. But, choice is also painful. Sorry about that. :<
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  how what? i dont even recall the original issue... irc dosent charge by the word...
[06:45] <hellyeah> it is a good thing but it is just arthictic side of os :D
[06:45]  * Kamilion stares at his irc log folder
[06:45] <hellyeah> Kamilion:  what coice
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> hellyeah:  a new entry  to the desktop catatory in 13.10 is razorqt
[06:45] <Kamilion> Dr_Willis: thank god it doesn't.... I'd need to be like... an oil millionare or something
[06:45]  * xmetal wonders if it's possible to be "too tired" to go to bed
[06:46] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: the problem is the dconf folder, as I understand it's some kiof container for settings using key value pairs, how do I read it?
[06:46] <sam113101> I don't want to start with a new one
[06:46] <sam113101> I want to try to fix it manually
[06:46] <Kamilion> hellyeah: well, linux, and ubuntu in specific, let you pick between a lot of desktop environments. You don't have to use unity. Buuuut.... you're also not gonna get the 'gpu experience' without it, for the most part.
[06:46] <sam113101> gconf? is that it?
[06:46] <Kamilion> not without setting it all up yourself on some other DE
[06:47] <Kamilion> I think kubuntu probably has nice acceleration.
[06:47] <Kamilion> but I've never tried it, so I couldn't tell you.
[06:47] <sam113101> oh, there is dconf editor
[06:47] <hellyeah> let me try lxde
[06:47] <hellyeah> i suppose it is kde's esque
[06:47] <hellyeah> just an instinct
[06:47] <hellyeah> hmm
[06:47] <FloodBot1> hellyeah: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:48] <Kamilion> hellyeah: it's best to think of ubuntu and linux like a bunch of pancakes, and everyone orders their plate a little different.
[06:48] <hellyeah> suppose lxde is kde's esque this is just instict
[06:48] <cfhowlett> Kamilion, hmm.  ubuntu linux: have it your way.
[06:48] <Kamilion> but almost everyone has the plate underneath. (the linux kernel and GNU userland)
[06:49] <Kamilion> have it your way, only a couple apt-gets away
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  move it.. see if it fixs the problem..  then you can move it back and go setting by setting init.. and see what the issue is.
[06:49] <Kamilion> in some cases, seriously. apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[06:49] <KillSnooki> So the best Office to use with Ubuntu is 2007?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  i regularry clean out all my old settings during beta testing. dosent take me very long to figure out what files does what and what ones to keep
[06:49] <Kamilion> KillSnooki: in wine without crossover-office? yeah.
[06:50] <KillSnooki> Does crossover-office work pretty well with 2013?
[06:50] <Kamilion> with crossover-office, i think 2010
[06:50] <Kamilion> no idea about anything newer
[06:50] <sam113101> I know ~/.config/dconf/user is the problem
[06:50] <KillSnooki> ah, I think I bought crossover-office like 10 years ago
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> I will stick with Libreoffice and Abiword. ;)
[06:50] <sam113101> I'm trying to figure out which part of it
[06:50]  * Kamilion scoffs
[06:50] <pogiako> hello
[06:50] <Kamilion> I'll stick with nano, gedit, and pycharm. :)
[06:51] <pogiako> can someone help me, python zlib isnt available where can i get it?
[06:51] <Kamilion> i don't need your steenking bold and italics... just syntax highlighting.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  time to find a dconf file tweaker/editor i guess   and spend an hr or 2 and hope ya figure it out. or rename it.. and reset things how you want
[06:51] <KillSnooki> Yeah, the problem though is I attend school full time and work full time and when I am at school I need things to work. I will switch over little by little
[06:51] <KillSnooki> I cannot live with my OFfice at this time ;\
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> dconf-editor - simple configuration storage system - utilities
[06:52] <Kamilion> pogiako: it's part of python stdlib
[06:52] <pogiako> yeah
[06:52] <pogiako> it aint there
[06:52] <pogiako> trying to startproject with django
[06:52] <pogiako> that what it says
[06:53] <Kamilion> python-minimal instead of python?
[06:53] <pogiako> ide u mean?
[06:53] <pogiako> am just using text editor
[06:54] <Kamilion> http://puu.sh/53AF2.png
[06:55] <pogiako> yeah i got no zlib
[06:55] <snadge> im using ubuntu on my work pc.. because fedora wouldn't install.. well done guys ;)
[06:55] <pogiako> am using 2.7.5
[06:55] <KillSnooki> !battery
[06:55] <KillSnooki> dern, hey Kamilion where should I start to troubleshoot the battery reporting issue?
[06:55] <snadge> cheers for releasing something, that actually installs and is useable, and doesn't just completely waste my time.. hehe
[06:56] <Kamilion> KillSnooki: uhhh.... Good question. Depends on a few things.
[06:56] <KillSnooki> Does ubuntu have to 'learn' how fast your battery discharges or charges?
[06:56] <Kamilion> Are you getting any reporting from the battery already?
[06:56] <KillSnooki> or should it be accurate from the get-go like Windows?
[06:56] <snadge> as a final offtopic point.. i will note that fedora installs perfectly.. in virtualbox running on ubuntu ;)
[06:56] <KillSnooki> yup. Started at 100%, 2.2 hours and now it's down to 67% with 1:42 remaining
[06:57] <Kamilion> snadge: hint, vmware player works sweeeeeet.
[06:57] <Kamilion> little more of a pita than virtualbox-ose to install though ;)
[06:57]  * Kamilion aways and rests his brain of #ubuntu for a while
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> KillSnooki:  theres known issues with powersaveing/battery life in ubuntu not being near as good as it should be.
[06:58] <Kamilion> (you may not realize this, but there are 1700 people in here.)
[06:58] <Kamilion> 1699.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> KillSnooki:  theres most likely HUGE number of threads on it on the forums and askubuntu.com - the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites also have some guides on getting better life
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> i recall some power-saveing tweaks on the 'X things to do after installing ubuntu...' guides on both sites
[06:59] <KillSnooki> yup. I will look again. Right now my main concern is getting the screen dimmer to work. I've installed some program called pommed. We will see how it does ;)
[06:59] <Kamilion> note: linux and 'power saving' / 'hibernation' may be hazardous to your mental health.
[06:59] <pogiako> can someone help me get zlib?
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search zlib
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> \install what you need. ;)
[07:00] <pogiako> done it
[07:00] <Kamilion> pogiako: try apt-get install python-2.7  ?
[07:00] <pogiako> ?
[07:00] <pogiako> i already have python
[07:01] <pogiako> just need the module
[07:01] <Kamilion> python-2.7 or python2.7-minimal ?
[07:01] <pogiako> 2.7.5 is what i have
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> \install what you need. ;)zlib1g - compression library - runtime
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> !info zlib1g
[07:01] <pogiako> i dont get u willis?
[07:02] <pogiako> what?
[07:02] <West> I'm currently learning java in school and I am new to Ubuntu. Is this the appropriate ppa ? ppa:webupd8team/java
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> you asked for zlib..
[07:02] <pogiako> yeah
[07:02] <West> anything I should be aware of ?
[07:02] <Kamilion> pogiako: there are two different python packages... one with some of stdlib stripped, python-2.7-minimal, and python-2.7
[07:02] <pogiako> oh
[07:02] <pogiako> so what do I do then?
[07:02] <pogiako> i just want the zlib mod
[07:02] <pogiako> mod.
[07:02] <Kamilion> pogiako: apt-get install python-2.7
[07:02] <pogiako> lol?
[07:03] <Kamilion> you have -minimal
[07:03] <Kamilion> it comes with ubuntu because the core OS needs it
[07:03] <pogiako> so i'll overwrite my python then?
[07:03] <pogiako> oh ok
[07:03] <pogiako> ty ;)
[07:04] <pogiako> i still need to dl i tright?
[07:04] <pogiako> right?*
[07:04] <Kamilion> yes :<
[07:04] <Kamilion> it's a larger package.
[07:04] <mykal> hi all. anyone point me to some good reading on methods for rdp from win7 to ubuntu 12.04LTS?
[07:05] <pogiako> went back to python site and am getting gzipped ;)
[07:05] <Kamilion> uhh
[07:05] <Kamilion> that's generally not a good idea
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> !java | West
[07:05] <Kamilion> the release tarball's been split into... ... something like 80 .deb packages?
[07:06] <West> ubottu: thank you very much for the link
[07:06]  * Kamilion doublechecks on launchpad
[07:06] <West> ubottu: ^^
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> !bot
[07:06] <gaara_akash> hello, does anyone know which channel is used for discussion of unity webapps?
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> gaara_akash:  id be suprised if there is a seperate channel for that. but the 'alis' service may find one
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> !alis
[07:07] <Kamilion> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/python2.7
[07:07] <Dr_Willis>     /msg alis list #ubuntu*
[07:07] <Kamilion> k, my bad, it's mono that gets split like hell, looks like python doesn't.
[07:07] <xgeek-cub> i am i suacy and i am in need of a wgetpaste or similar; plz help
[07:08] <gaara_akash> Dr_Willis, thanks
[07:08] <pogiako> Kamilion: woooh! got it thanks man i love yah! ;)
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> xgeek-cub:  and wgetpaste does what exactly?
[07:08] <Kamilion> g'luck with your pythoning.
[07:09] <Kamilion> \o
[07:11] <xgeek-cub> Dr_Willis: it paste an output to dpaste.net
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> xgeek-cub:  i mentioned 'pastebinit' earlier to day to you i brecall.
[07:12] <xgeek-cub> ls|&wgetpaste enter then you have a link in command line
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> !info pastebinit | xgeek-cub
[07:13] <sam113101> yeah I just used a new dconf
[07:14] <xgeek-cub> Dr_Willis: thanks i just saw that
[07:17] <devilnorm> !list
[07:18] <gaara_akash> ok the closest thing to app developers was #ubuntu-app-devels and no one was really present there so i'm just going to ask
[07:19] <gaara_akash> i'm trying to create a unity webapp for an extension of chromium
[07:19] <xgeek-cub> Dr_Willis : but new problem when i tried to install it : Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main pastebinit all 1.3-4-ubuntu1 connection failed [IP: 91.189.91.13.80]
[07:19] <gaara_akash> but external.getUnityObject fails because there is no such funciton
[07:19] <gaara_akash> does anyone know how to work around this issue?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> xgeek-cub:  done a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and see if theres any errors .  and then try intalling pastebinit again.
[07:25] <tfh> hi, i upgraded yesterday, and since then my scroll pad doesn't work anymore. I have an acer aspire timleline. (there is a line on the right of the pad, usually swiping the finger up and down causes the page (like browser for example) to scroll up and down, this isnt working  anymore)
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> tfh: maybe this can help? http://linuxg.net/how-to-enable-both-natural-scrolling-and-horizontal-scrolling-on-ubuntu-13-10-saucy-salamander-and-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[07:30] <tfh> lotuspsychje, but this was working, i lost it after  the version upgrade...
[07:30] <xgeek-cub> Dr_Willis : still the same problem with us.archive.ubuntu.com 91.189.91.13 (91.189.91.15) ;;; even when i ping the ip i get unknown host
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> tfh: doublecheck dconf settings anyway, to be sure if they are enabled
[07:31] <Raymii> Does anybody know how I can fool apt to think a specific package and specific version of that package is installed altough it is not really installed?
[07:31] <tfh> lotuspsychje doing now, thanks
[07:33] <tarelerulz> I have samsung note 3 and it only shows up in ptp, don't see sd card and I can't seem to trasfer movies off it. It supports mtp , ptp and usb 3.
[07:34] <tfh> lotuspsychje, my touchpad settings don't have any entry for horizontal scrolling, how can I add one/
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> tfh: how about natural scrolling?
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | Raymii
[07:34] <tfh> lotuspsychje no, none
[07:35] <tfh> lotuspsychje, just one single entry about orientation-locking
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> tfh: thats odd indeed, not sure then mate
[07:36] <Raymii> lotuspsychje Thanks!
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> Raymii: np
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> xgeek-cub:  works for me.   sounds like some network issues on your end
[07:36] <tfh> lotuspsychje, in previous update, there usually is a #channel dedicated to updates regressions, do you know what is it?
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> tfh: not sure what you mean by that, an irc channel for updates?
[07:39] <tfh> lotuspsychje, yes
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> tfh: you mean #ubuntu+1 for next version of ubuntu?
[07:40] <xgeek-cub> : Dr_Willis is there any way to switch to other alternative repos?
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> tfh: http://itsfoss.com/enable-edge-scrolling-ubuntu-1310-quick-tip/
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> xgeek-cub:  you can edit your /etc/apt/sources.list  file.   the askubuntu.com site should info on selecting the best mirrors for your location
[07:52] <hellangel> cfhowlett, ill just assume you wanted to highlight someone else? :P
[07:57] <Cliff123> Hello, I just installed the proprietary NVidia Driver on my Notebook (Kubuntu 13.10) and now my graphics card is running on full power all  the time. That means the fan is always on full speed
[07:57] <excognac> hi all, morning
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> Cliff123: did you have software to modify fan speed?
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> excognac: hello mate, what can we do for you?
[07:58] <Cliff123> Well, I have nvidia-settings
[07:59] <Cliff123> but my graphics card doesn't need to run on 700Mhz in desktop mode..
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> Cliff123: is there a bios setting for that fan speed?
[07:59] <Cliff123> and I cant set my fan speed with nvidia-settings
[07:59] <Cliff123> the fan speed isn't the real problem.
[07:59] <Cliff123> whats causing the fan speed is the problem
[07:59] <excognac> lotuspsychje: ikonia: who can help me now tih installing 12.04 with the intel i5 proc/intel graphics which has no drivers by default in 12.04 kubuntu live cd?
[08:02] <excognac> *dvd
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> Cliff123: maybe check your /var/log/syslog.1 to see errors on it?
[08:02] <excognac> ikonia: could you please help me now?
[08:03] <ikonia> excognac: can certainly try
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> excognac: did you check your additional drivers section?
[08:04] <excognac> lotuspsychje: well, i tried.
[08:04] <auronandace> excognac: how new is the machine you are trying to install 12.04 on?
[08:04] <excognac> auronandace: brand new, i did 4-5 fail installs only.
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> normally we see in here - fans running at full speed. untill the nvidia drivers get installed.
[08:05] <auronandace> excognac: are you using 12.04 dvd or 12.04.3 (this one would have a more recent kernel)
[08:06] <excognac> ikonia: shall i just make a regular 12.04 install on it? (separate /, /home and swap, all primary)
[08:06] <excognac> auronandace: 12.04.3 live dvd.
[08:06] <Cliff123> well, it doesn't look like there is an error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6328721/
[08:06] <ikonia> excognac: lay it out how you feel comfortable
[08:07] <auronandace> excognac: did your machine come with win8?
[08:08] <excognac> auronandace: no. clean machine. i dont use windows.
[08:09] <auronandace> excognac: do you know if it uses uefi?
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> Cliff123: 966 gives acpi warning, not sure if this is your issue
[08:11] <Cliff123> acpi is responsible for suspend and hibernate, isn't it?
[08:11] <C200> I can't decide if I should buy a Chromebook.
[08:12] <auronandace> C200: we can't help you with shopping, this is just for ubuntu support
[08:12] <excognac> auronandace:  why it cries for EFI /boot partition?
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> Cliff123: you checked bios updates for your toshiba?
[08:13] <Cliff123> no I haven't. This is my notebook from work, I won't update the bios ^^
[08:13] <Cliff123> and it's a fujitsu ;)
[08:14] <excognac> at manual install / partition has to be EFI boot partition? not ext4?
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> the efi boot partion has its own special type i recall from the efi wiki page. but i think its a fat32 filesystem
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> !uefi
[08:16] <Dr_Willis>  / would be ext4   (normally) /boot/efi  is the special kind. (id reread that url i may be wrong)
[08:18] <Cliff123> well, I guess I have to switch to nouveau drivers again and live with it's problems..
[08:23] <Lope> Hi, Normally my USB3 hard drive works perfectly on my USB3 port. Now I've just bought a USB3 hub. I've plugged the USB3 hub into my USB3 port, and plugged my USB3 HDD into the hub. The HDD spins up, but doesn't auto-mount, and I don't see the HDD on lsusb?
[08:23] <jeannoel> hi in my gedit bottom panel, the command line is displayed in white, with white background
[08:24] <jeannoel> someone knows how to change the colour of that?
[08:25] <junktext_> Lope, depending on your USB hub, not enough power may be going through the hub to reach your hard drive's power requirements. I've had issues like that in the past with other power-hungry USB devices running through hubs or extenders.
[08:26] <t38> excognac: Definitely read thru the URL that Dr_Willis gave you. If you don't have a efi partition available, things will be pretty difficult. As far as the intel video, you should be ok although intel  does have a repository for driver installation
[08:27] <junktext_> Lope, can you plug other devices into your USB hub, such as a mouse, and will it work fine?
[08:27] <junktext_> If so, that means your USB hub is working generally, but there still may be a power limiting aspect with more power-hungry equipment.
[08:27] <excognac> Dr_Willis: t38 tanks mates, i'm reading it. not sure, but looks like i can just ignore all efi as kubuntu will be the only operating system. i keep reading it
[08:28] <Lope> junktext_: ok will try that. I figured if the HDD spins up, which takes more power than just it's electronics. it should at least be visible. I'll try some lower power devices.
[08:29] <xgeek-cub> http://askubuntu.com/questions/368364/ssh-connection-refused-after-installin-freenx
[08:30] <junktext_> Lope, also does your USB hub supply its own power supply (i.e., with a separate plug-in transformer to an outlet), or is the USB hub just a simple add-on to one of your PC's USB ports? If it's the latter, I'd assume it's a power limitation. If the hub supplies its own power, it could be another thing on second thought.
[08:32] <razzledazzle> how can I make the minimal installed detect my wireless hardware?
[08:32] <razzledazzle> *installer
[08:32] <lonixxx> Now, finaly i got nick
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> excognac:  yep. you can kick in legacy mode and just use that. Im not sure what you gain by useing uefi  over legacy.. if anything...
[08:33] <lonixxx> Guys, if i have a server with a /dev/sda thats getting full
[08:33] <den_> iki wong ngenbdi
[08:33] <Lope> junktext_: I just plugged a flash drive into the USB3 hub. Also absolutely nothing happens. I unplugged the USB3 hub and plugged the flash drive directly into the USB3 port on my laptop. and instantly the flash drive mounts and pops up.
[08:33] <lonixxx> can i mount /dev/sdb as i.e. /etc/service somehow
[08:33] <excognac> Dr_Willis: basically setting bios legacy/uefi determines how i install os, right?
[08:34] <junktext_> Lope, try also using a non-HDD option to test your USB hub.  Such as a mouse to see if there is some reason the hub is either defective or simply not recognized for some reason by the OS.
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> lonixxx:  so.. clean out the cruft?
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> lonixxx:  you can mount filesystems, wherever you want
[08:34] <Dr_Willis>  using a seperate partion/filesystem for  /var or /tmp or /home   is commonplace
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> excognac:  thats how i read it. enable legacy, instgall in legacy mode.. keep it in legacy mode
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> !mount | lonixxx
[08:36] <lonixxx> Im trying to avoid haveing to move content anywhere
[08:36] <junktext_> Lope, also... an old-school trick: Try plugging your USB hub into a different USB port than what you've been plugging it into.  Sometimes this gets past weird temporary resource conflicts.
[08:37] <excognac> Dr_Willis: and if later on i change my mind, i can set uefi install with a boot-repair disk, i won't need to do the whole installation again, right?
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> excognac:  no idea. Im not sure why you would want uefi mode when legacy mode works..
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> only real reason i see to isntall ubuntu in uefi mode. is if windows is there in uefi mode also
[08:37] <junktext_> Lope, I've gotta get some sleep.  I wish you luck!
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> unless ive totally missed a reason for uefi mode. ;)
[08:39] <lonixxx> i guess its: Stop service -> move content to temp usb -> mount new drive as /etc/application - move back -> start service for me then
[08:40] <Lope> junktext_: okay I've just plugged a keyboard into every port of the USB3 hub. works
[08:40] <guest1763836947> Hello
[08:41] <Lope> I've got another USB3 cable thats got 2 USB A plugs on it (for more power) will try that with the HDD in a few mins. have a good night.
[08:41] <Lope> thanks.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> lonixxx:  what kind of app is keeping a lot of data in /etc/ ?
[08:41] <Lope> BTW I think some USB2 devices really hate USB3. I've noticed 3G modems hate my USB3, and also some USB2 flash drives.
[08:42] <t38> Dr_Willis: That would probably be the only reason not to use legacy
[08:47] <excognac> ikonia: now i'm installing it a legacy mode, no uefi mess. could that cause the problem previously or graphics has nothing to do with uefi?
[08:47] <ikonia> excognac: doesn't seem like it should cause a problem
[08:53] <excognac> ikonia: well before try/install screen appeared screen was blinking, for a few seconds it went text mode (i didn't press anyting) then i had the graphical interface for install, looks like it works fine. please tell me what to do after it finsihed (should take 10 mins from now on).
[08:55] <ikonia> excognac: get it installed, then see what the situation is, report back and we can work it through
[09:00] <excognac> ikonia: it says modem-manager [1438]: ,info. Caught signal 15, shutting down... and it doesn't. so i do it manually.
[09:01] <ikonia> excognac: ok, that's not terrible
[09:03] <rjd_> is there an apt archive with old hardy packages (dont ask)?
[09:04] <maxb> rjd_: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[09:05] <rjd_> it's enough to replace archive with old-releases in sources.list?
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> !eol
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> im not even sure the archive serves have all the old  releases.
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> someone was looking for some old ones the other day. and there were some gaps we noticed. (not sure why)
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> starts at  'l'  .
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> 'm' and 'n' are also missing.
[09:07] <maxb> ?
[09:07] <tarelerulz> mtp does not work on my  Samsung note 3 at all.  says something about being locked.  USB 3 don't work either .   How would I mount it?
[09:08] <maxb> Dr_Willis: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/ doesn't look missing to me
[09:08] <maxb> < rjd_> it's enough to replace archive with old-releases in sources.list?  --   Yes.
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> we were wonder ing the other day if there was a archive-archive-server ;)
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> guess its old-releases ;)
[09:11] <excognac> ikonia: so i have it installed, i have the loginscreen wider the supposed to be. what's next?
[09:11] <ikonia> excognac: ok, but you do get a login screen, as expected ?
[09:12] <helmut_> hi
[09:13] <excognac> ikonia: yes. i left it as it was, by default screensaver turned on, now it's a messy striped loginscreen
[09:13] <ikonia> excognac: can you login ?
[09:14] <excognac> ikonia: yeah, blindfoldedly i could. still messy interface.but now i'm logged in.
[09:14] <Lope> I'm upgrading my kernel. I got a few errors and warnings, I've separated the errors and warnings with empty lines above and below so they're easy to see http://codepad.org/r4ZxYJOc should I be concerned or just proceed?
[09:14] <ikonia> excognac: ok, what does it look like now you're logged in ?
[09:15] <excognac> ikonia: striped messy graphical interface onwhich i cant read things.
[09:15] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so it's a total mess.
[09:15] <lonixxx> Dr_Willis: its ita home writen-app made befor mytime, and its not etc its /var but it was a example
[09:15] <excognac> ikonia: yap.
[09:16] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so lets try to force the video card to use "vesa" module, it will be poor performance, but is normally a %100 compatible "fail safe" xorg module
[09:16] <ikonia> excognac: from there with a working desktop, we can move foward
[09:16] <excognac> ikonia: ok, ow do i dothat
[09:17] <ikonia> excognac: I'm guessing you don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:17] <auronandace> Lope: nvidia and virtualbox are giving your errors but the warning is about a realtek nic that doesn't have firmware
[09:17] <excognac> ikonia:  so i go to text mode now
[09:17] <ikonia> excognac: seems a logical step
[09:18] <Lope> auronandace: how can the realtek NIC not have firmware. surely it should ship with firmware on it? what will happen if I proceed with the kernel upgrade?
[09:18] <Mergy> Hi  all ! I have a small package problem: apt-get install libgd2
[09:18] <Mergy> http://pastebin.com/v9wme9Mz
[09:18] <Mergy> Does anybody would have an idea about how to fix it ? It's the first time I get this !  Thanks :)
[09:18] <auronandace> Lope: if you are not using the nic then no problem
[09:19] <excognac> ikonia: no i dont have it
[09:19] <Lope> I don't use my nvidia GPU. I've got bumblebee installed to just power the GPU down and save power.
[09:19] <auronandace> Lope: commencing with the upgrade will probably break your graphics and virtualbox though
[09:19] <ikonia> excognac: that's not a bad thing, we need to create it
[09:19] <Lope> and I don't care about virtualbox. I use VMWare instead.
[09:19] <Lope> the main thing is I want my USB Displaylink adapter to work.
[09:20] <den_> hello
[09:20] <Lope> I heard that the 3.9 and 3.10 kernels improve displaylink support and it may just work automagically.
[09:20] <auronandace> Lope: sounds like you got your bases covered then (just curious, why have vbox installed if you are not using it?)
[09:20] <den_> FUCK ALL
[09:20] <den_> FUCK ALL
[09:20] <excognac> ikonia: ok, i did sudo nano path+name
[09:20] <ikonia> excognac: hang on, step back a moment
[09:20] <Lope> so I figured if I'm upgrading my kernel I should just go for the newest release which is 3.11.6
[09:21] <excognac> ikonia: kk
[09:21] <Lope> auronandace: I installed vbox before I got vmware working.
[09:21] <Lope> I should probably uninstall vbox.
[09:21] <ikonia> excognac: you've got no X11 desktop running now, correct ?
[09:21] <Lope> should I do it now or can I uninstall vbox after the kernel update?
[09:21] <auronandace> Lope: why not use the kernel that ships with 13.10? (it uses 3.11)
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> Lope:  that would be good news. thats those usb-lcd-monitors right? Id recall ags ago they had big problems.
[09:22] <excognac> ikonia: how do i check that?
[09:22] <Lope> I'm currently on kernel 3.8.11-32
[09:22] <ikonia> excognac: you're in a text mode - no desktop correct ?
[09:22] <Lope> I'm running ubuntu 13.04
[09:22] <excognac> ikonia: yes ofc. i'm chatting froma different macine
[09:22] <Lope> Dr_Willis: correct :)
[09:22] <ikonia> excognac: just checking
[09:22] <auronandace> Lope: then why not install 13.10? why do you want to stay with 13.04?
[09:22] <ikonia> excognac: run "sudo X -configure"
[09:22] <Lope> auronandace: I don't want to have to reinstall everything.
[09:23] <Lope> it was such a mission getting everything I have set up. the apache, the samba, the mysql, mongo php you name it.
[09:23] <auronandace> Lope: just so you know then, you'll need to maintain the kernel yourself (can't be supported here)
[09:24] <Lope> so is 13.04 destined to stay on the old 3.8 kernel forever?
[09:24] <auronandace> Lope: sounds like the lts release would have been better for you
[09:24] <auronandace> Lope: yes
[09:24] <Lope> isn't 13.04 LTS?
[09:24] <auronandace> Lope: no
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> Lope:  you might want to test with a live-dvd of 13.10 and see if they work.
[09:24] <auronandace> Lope: anywho, i gotta go
[09:25] <Lope> well I read that if I upgrade my kernel I can just hold shift and boot to my old kernel?
[09:25] <excognac> ikonia: Fatal server error: server is already active for display 0 If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.xo-lock and start again
[09:25] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so that still sounds like you have X11 running
[09:25] <ikonia> excognac: how did you go to "text mode"
[09:25] <excognac> ikonia: Ctrl+Alt+F1
[09:25] <Lope> okay I'm continuing...
[09:25] <Lope> thanks guys.
[09:25] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so "sudo service lightdm stop"
[09:26] <ikonia> excognac: then try again
[09:26] <Lope> time for the big reboot.
[09:27] <excognac> ikonia: unrecognized service. it's not installed. yesterday i installed it so i coud use gui.
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> wonder why i keep getting these huge lag's  every so often with freenode lately..
[09:27] <ikonia> what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[09:27] <ikonia> 12.04 ubuntu ?
[09:28] <SPEEDWAVE> ikonia, can you help me about my dota 2 invisible hero and trees graphic?
[09:29] <ikonia> SPEEDWAVE: no idea, just ask the channel
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  what have you done so far to try to fix the issue?
[09:29] <SPEEDWAVE> ikonia, ok thanks anyway
[09:29] <Mergy> Hi  all ! I have a small package problem: apt-get install libgd2 http://pastebin.com/v9wme9Mz Does anybody would have an idea about how to fix it ? It's the first time I get this !  Thanks :)
[09:29] <Guest10228> hi
[09:29] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis, upgrade my mesa to 9.1.4
[09:30] <Guest10228> i have additional 5 keys on keyboard, can i bind on them something?
[09:30] <excognac> ikonia: yes, 12.04.3 live-dvd used
[09:30] <Guest10228> xubuntu 13.10 my version
[09:30] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis, but still invisble my hero at dota 2
[09:30] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so that should have lightdm as the display manager
[09:30] <MonkeyDust> Mergy  apt-cache search libgd2    ... then install the correct package name
[09:31] <excognac> ikonia: i have no idea why it doesn't have/doesn't install it.
[09:31] <excognac> ikonia: i think it has kdm
[09:31] <ikonia> excognac: then it would be "kubuntu" you're using
[09:31] <excognac> ikonia: it is indeed kubuntu.
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> SPEEDWAVE:  you did look at the steam forums and so forth to see if the issue had been reported? or did you just randomly decide that it was a mesa problem?
[09:32] <ikonia> excognac: come on !!! you've got to share this sort of information, you keep saying "ubuntu" - it's not, it's kubuntu
[09:32] <Mergy> MonkeyDust: with apt-get install or apt-cache install ?
[09:32] <MonkeyDust> Mergy  apt-cache seach ... then apt-get install
[09:32] <excognac> ikonia: i'm utterly sorry, i think i have told it many times, i haven't repeated it tho.
[09:32] <MonkeyDust> search*
[09:33] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis, i go there at steam support i try the same problem but not my luck
[09:33] <ikonia> excognac: sudo service kdm stop
[09:34] <SPEEDWAVE> Dr_Willis, in furom they say mesa should upgrade and everythings ok, but in my part not luck
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> Mergy  apt-cache does not need sudo, as opposed to apt-get
[09:34] <Cuppa_coffee> Hi all, dunno if this is a chrome issue, or an ubuntu one. But: the tabs in chrome show the icon of the site (ie; youtube logo) but not the title of the tab. I just installed the AMD-driver. Any insight?
[09:34] <excognac> ikonia: ok. done. x- configure ran now correctly. what u need from output
[09:35] <ikonia> excognac: perfect, you should have a file called xorg.conf.new in your current working directory
[09:35] <excognac> ikonia: i do have it <3
[09:35] <ikonia> excognac: excellent, so now copy that into place at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:36] <excognac> ikonia: sudo cp /home/<user>/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf right?
[09:37] <ikonia> excognac: looks good
[09:37] <excognac> ikonia: done
[09:37] <Mergy> MonkeyDust: okay thanks I've succesfully installed all (had to do a apt-get install -f before) but now: http://pastebin.com/rq8s3RVX :(
[09:38] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so if you look in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file you should see a line that says "Driver"
[09:38] <ikonia> excognac: you may see multiple ones,
[09:38] <makara> i did "sudo apt-get install tiger" just to see what it was about. It wants to install tripwire, but I don't want to continue. Ctrl+C doesn't work. What to do (without killing the terminal)?
[09:39] <ikonia> excognac: need to step away from desk, back in 5 - 10
[09:40] <ShadowLAG> Quick question, do the deb files for the kernel repo create a bzimage? The reason I ask is because I need to repack a kernel and google sign it
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> mayday:  it asked   Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> Mergy  i'm not familiar with that error, i'm no help there
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> and you hit Y  ?
[09:41] <ShadowLAG> Unfortunately I am on a chromebook and I don't believe I can get a config file from this kernel. This chromebook shares the same specs as the aspire one.
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> vmlinuz-3.11.0*   are the kernel names here ShadowLAG
[09:43] <ShadowLAG> I support what I am asking is this, when compiling a new kernel it forces me to make a config file from scratch
[09:43] <ShadowLAG> I am on a chrome kernel and am needing to update to ubuntu 3.10 supported
[09:43] <excognac> ikonia: cool. i found Sections driver only mentioned under stg like Section "Device" Available Driver options are:- and below (for instance) Driver "vesa"
[09:44] <ShadowLAG> That being said, if I were to apt-get and install the new kernels
[09:44] <ShadowLAG> would they generate a pre-configed bzimage?
[09:45] <reisio> ShadowLAG: the kernel packages tend to be for premade kernels, yes
[09:46] <ShadowLAG> Right on, that's great news hopefully I can skip compiling completely.
[09:46] <reisio> Ubuntu isn't big on compiling
[09:47] <ShadowLAG> The reason is, is because I need some way to have access to a kernel to repack and resign
[09:47] <ShadowLAG> and move it into it's own partition, yet when using source, it's a blank slate for driver support
[09:48] <xgeek-cub> W: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com saucy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 16126D3A3E5C1192
[09:48] <ShadowLAG> So thats good news, where does it place the bzimage?
[09:48] <xgeek-cub> can i solve that?
[09:48] <rory> xgeek-cub: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 3E5C1192
[09:49] <huapox> hello every one
[09:49] <rory> Hello huapox
[09:49] <reisio> ShadowLAG: in /boot/ no doubt
[09:49] <reisio> ShadowLAG: you know what a bzImage is?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> huapox, greetings
[09:49] <ShadowLAG> It's a compiled blob kernel image
[09:49] <huapox> thanks
[09:50] <reisio> ShadowLAG: and what is it you want to do with it?
[09:50] <xgeek-cub> rory: how do you determine the lat hexdec number 3E5C1192
[09:50] <huapox> the first coming here
[09:50] <ShadowLAG> I need to repack it with google utils to sign it for my chromebook, the kernel I am on is stock google and is far outdated causing my drivers to break
[09:50] <ShadowLAG> in ubuntu 3.10
[09:51] <ShadowLAG> I mean lol
[09:51] <reisio> k
[09:51] <ShadowLAG> ubuntu 13.10
[09:52] <huapox> i get a problem like this,
[09:52] <huapox> 'sudo apt-get install ia32-libs'
[09:52] <ShadowLAG> One other question, the kernel that is grabbed from repo, does it rely on grabbing info from your current kernel or does it come with a wide range of device support built in?
[09:52] <reisio> ShadowLAG: should be the latter
[09:52] <huapox> "ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-multiarch"
[09:52] <huapox> do anyone find the solution?
[09:52] <sgo11> hi, how can I allow or deny outgoing traffic to some hosts or domains? for example, disable access to www.example1.com and example2.com. can I do this in ufw? or other tools? thanks.
[09:52] <ShadowLAG> Great that's pretty much what I'm looking for
[09:56] <leif_> join #xubuntu-offtopic
[09:56] <Bauer> guys, how do I get some developers feedback/attention to this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/1161341
[09:56] <g105b> Please can someone guide me to installing Ubuntu, from Ubuntu, without any access to the physical machine? I did it before using GRUB to boot the iso but can't remember...
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> Bauer: the bug briungs attention to the issue, you could install xscreensaver and remove gnome-screensaver instead
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> !info ia32-libs-multiarch
[09:58] <vxl_> hi
[09:58] <yesyayen> how to add a custom coded application to the left side of top menubar in ubuntu 10.04, with vloume, network icons?
[09:58] <reisio> vxl_: hi
[09:58] <Bauer> ActionParsnip: you sure that wouldnt break my login screen or anything? simply different login screen?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Bauer: should be fine
[09:58] <cfhowlett> yesyayen, 10.04?  end of life ...
[09:58] <cfhowlett> vxl_, greetings
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> ShadowLAG: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ia32-libs-multiarch&searchon=names  seems to be only up to Raring
[09:59] <reisio> yesyayen: right click
[09:59] <Bauer> thank ActionParsnip, I will try when I get home
[09:59] <vxl_> reisio, I would like to know how to configure XDMCP in linux
[09:59] <vxl_> ubuntu
[09:59] <cfhowlett> !details|vxl_,
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> ShadowLAG: http://askubuntu.com/questions/282194/depends-ia32-libs-multiarch-but-it-is-not-installable-solution
[09:59] <reisio> vxl_: to do what?
[09:59] <yesyayen> sorry, 13.04
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> ShadowLAG: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+changelog
[10:00] <yesyayen> reisio: i need to know the language in which i need to code, and where to deploy it to add it in the top menu bar? ubuntu 13.04
[10:01] <ShadowLAG> Nice
[10:01] <ShadowLAG> Why do I need ia32-libs again?
[10:01] <vxl_> reisio, I m using vmware view client 2.0 the local timezone is not redirecting inside vm, what should I do
[10:03] <ShadowLAG> @ ActionParsnip I was working with kernels are you sure those links were directed at me?
[10:04] <excognac> ikonia: sorry fordisturbing, are you back?
[10:04] <sgo11> Bauer, I read your bug. I don't know what the problem is. even if the input method is set to something else, you can still directly input english to password field. what's the problem?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> ShadowLAG: possibly crossed wires :(. Its early
[10:06] <ShadowLAG> It's all good
[10:06] <Bauer> sgo11: problem is, that the typing language in the login screen is set to the language of the last active window, which sometimes is not english
[10:06] <Bauer> sgo11: this causes mistakes on the first attempt to unlock
[10:06] <razzledazzle> I'm doing a minimal Ubuntu install and aptitude is telling me that the packages conflict with their i386 version, why doesn't it fix itself>
[10:07] <razzledazzle> *?
[10:07] <Bauer> sgo11: and in Windows (all versions) login screen never behaved in such way. Its not by design as well, I believe
[10:07] <sgo11> Bauer, yeah, so what? you can only input english to password field. no. I just did the test. even if the typing language is set to non-english, I can still input my password correctly at the first attempt. no need to change typing lang.
[10:08] <Bauer> really? ok, I will test today when I get home.. pretty sure this is not true for my computer for some reason
[10:08] <yesyayen> sorry for duplicate message, just made it more clear, - Need to add a application or a custom code to the top menu(global menu) of ubuntu 13.04? what is the way to write the UI code and deploy it. The reason is tht, it should be accessible to all other application/window all the time.   here->http://cdn.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/00_global_menu.png
[10:09] <sgo11> Bauer, I am using ubuntu-gnome 13.10. I can only type english to password field regardless what typing lang sets. and i can input password correctly at the first time.
[10:11] <ShadowLAG> Quick question are vmlinuz the same thing as bzimage
[10:12] <reisio> ShadowLAG: should be
[10:12] <airtonix> conceptually anyway
[10:12] <ice9> is there a tool to detect network sniffers on a network?
[10:12] <reisio> trace bustah bustah
[10:13] <ShadowLAG> good deal, I'll know for sure if I wreck my install, I can fix it from chrome os at anyrate
[10:13] <iwaffles> Is it possible to use iptables to block a domain name? There's one currently pointing at my IP address that I'd love to block
[10:14] <reisio> iwaffles: #netfilter
[10:14] <iwaffles> ty
[10:14] <cariveri> Hi. ubuntu upgrade to 13.10 broke my /boot partitions entries.e.g. entries from another dsitro (fedora) are relabeled wrongly as kubuntu. and booting results in the: Error is something like : plymouthd boot splash cannot be found. what can I do?
[10:14] <ShadowLAG> "zImage is then copied using the cp (i.e., copy) command to the /boot directory and simultaneously renamed vmlinuz with a command such as..."
[10:15] <ShadowLAG> Nice they are!
[10:15] <universal> how to enable saucy-proposed and saucy-backports from terminal ?
[10:15] <ShadowLAG> This might be my lucky day if ubuntu 13.10 supports acer aspire one specs
[10:16] <SPEEDWAVE> how to ddelete recent history in ubuntu terminal?
[10:16] <reisio> SPEEDWAVE: echo '' > ~/.bash_history && history -c && history
[10:17] <SPEEDWAVE> reisio, thanks man
[10:17] <Bauer> sgo11: ubuntu-gnome is the one used by default by the unity interface?
[10:18] <sgo11> Bauer, I am not sure. I never use unity. I use gnome-shell.
[10:19] <Cuppa_coffee> Hi all, dunno if this is a chrome issue, or an ubuntu one. But: the tabs in chrome show the icon of the site (ie; youtube logo) but not the title of the tab. I just installed the AMD-driver. Anyone know what might cause it/fix it?
[10:20] <razzledazzle> Cuppa_coffee, I looked up about it, its a filed bug
[10:20] <Bauer> sgo11: I use Unity, could this be why my behaviour (and the guy who posted to that bug too) is different from yours?
[10:20] <Cuppa_coffee> razzledazzle, thanks. My googleskills must have failed me. I'll wait patiently for an update. Thank you!
[10:21] <sgo11> Bauer, maybe, you are right. I don't really know. sorry.
[10:22] <razzledazzle> Cuppa_coffee, no problem at all, mine ain't sharp either, took me to open few pages before :)
[10:22] <willybilly0101> does ubuntu has full hybrid graphics support?
[10:22] <gain> hi guys, nautilus seems allow me to browse a webdav resource, but says that mine is not a valid server (but I can browse it with other clients)
[10:22] <reisio> willybilly0101: works to varying degrees
[10:23] <gain> have I to install some webdav package, maybe?
[10:23] <gain> (ubuntu 12.04)
[10:24] <universal> how to enable saucy-proposed and saucy-backports from terminal ?
[10:25] <willybilly0101> another thing, is there any way to strip down ubuntu at install time?
[10:26] <willybilly0101> I don't want all the huge packages like openoffice (or libre, whatever it has) 5 video players, 5 for music ... and so on?
[10:26] <reisio> willybilly0101: install from the 'minimalcd', you should be able to opt out at the end
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> !mini
[10:31] <willybilly0101> thank you MonkeyDust
[10:33] <cariveri> can some one please help me with plymouthd ? "can't not start boot splash"  after upgrade to 13.10
[10:35] <razzledazzle> can someone help me fix these problems with aptitude during a minimal installation?
[10:35] <razzledazzle> how to make it skip i386 version of the packages that are conflicting?
[10:36] <comander> hello how to i make live ubuntu distro per installed ubuntu system?
[10:36] <cfhowlett> !clonezilla|comander,
[10:36] <cfhowlett> !clone
[10:36] <willybilly0101> I think he wants live, as in with boodloader & everything
[10:37] <comander> phank cwhowlett
[10:43] <eduardo_> i need help upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10... says not enough free space in /boot....
[10:43] <eduardo_> perhaps a bug? I only have the latest kernel in 13.04
[10:46] <yalex> Hello can I use a storage pool across multiple KVM guests?
[10:47] <cariveri> eduardo_: perhaps you should wait on this. upgrading to 13.10 messed up my playmouthd and my /boot partition.
[10:50] <Wobbo> I wondered if I'm the only one who got a lot of problems with 13.10. Very, very, very many problems. With different, whether it's about an update, 32/64, fresh install or even via VB provide: jams, long time still, black background, fixed hang hang, mouse still stand, software does not start, some no more NL offer , one knew Ubuntu pages, some software does not work anymore, Aptana Studio 3 is not running properly (fresh installed or not,
[10:50] <Wobbo> different 13.10), the latest Ubuntu does not look good on different PC ... I am a regular user since 6:04 on me all computers, including me work. This version seems really the worst version, or am I the only one who has problems? The new updates and upcoming updates have no use. But I hope I'm not the only one with all these problems? Even Chrome and Chromium are not working properly. The same problems with ATI / intel / with and without o
[10:50] <Wobbo> pen-source.
[10:50] <FloodBot1> Wobbo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:51] <cfhowlett> Wobbo, dude.  DETAILS and one problem at a time if you actually expect help
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Wobbo: tried a few DEs?
[10:54] <Wobbo> Sorry, ok: one problem 13.10 total isn't reade for users. But, u just want to now if i am the onlieone whits so many problems?
[10:55] <excognac> ikonia: still afk?
[10:55] <cfhowlett> Wobbo, no.  we done here?
[10:56] <cfhowlett> Wobbo, what I'm trying to say is, choose an issue to deal work with.  This isn't the complaint channel.
[10:58] <eduardo_> cariveri thanks... many people say this is not the best ubuntu version...
[10:58] <eduardo_> any update dev to refer this problems ??
[11:00] <sgo11> are there any firewall apps based on hosts and domians? not ip address. I want to deny some access to hosts and domains rather than ip. since I ip might be changed, but domain will never change. thanks.
[11:03] <Wobbo> cfhowlett, sorry, go shot want to hear about the complains. If not all the problem wont be knon and solved...
[11:07] <excognac> Until now, ikonia provided me help but he seems to be afk. who can help me now  installing 12.04 with the intel i5 proc/intel graphics which has no drivers by default in 12.04.3 Kubuntu! live-dvd?
[11:07] <ikonia> excognac: I'll be with you shortly, I just got back to desk, but I'm in a meeting
[11:07] <excognac> ikonia: oh, ok sorry, i wait for you
[11:07] <ikonia> excognac: no need for sorry, things are just moving a little slowly for me
[11:08] <ikonia> excognac: it may help if you can pastebin your xorg.conf now ready for later
[11:09] <excognac> how do i pastbin things in text mode? anybody?
[11:10] <excognac> ok got it
[11:11] <SPEEDWAVE> excognac, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:14] <excognac> i opened a file to view with cat or less. i can't stopviewing it, what's the key combo for it?
[11:15] <Cuppa_coffee> ctrl+c
[11:15] <Cuppa_coffee> iirc
[11:15] <excognac> Cuppa_coffee: i doesn't do the job:(
[11:15] <Cuppa_coffee> ctrl+d, ctrl+x?
[11:15] <Cuppa_coffee> it's been a while, sorry :)
[11:15] <excognac> Cuppa_coffee: none works
[11:16] <Cuppa_coffee> then i'm afraid i don't know :(
[11:16] <excognac> Cuppa_coffee: wow, Ctrl+z
[11:16] <Cuppa_coffee> mhahaa, good ol' ctrl+z :) works for everything
[11:20] <excognac> ikonia: i can't install pastebint it with apt-get even i can ping ubuntu.com. shall i try a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> excognac  ctrl-z pauses, it does not stop the process
[11:21] <excognac> MonkeyDust: ok how do i stop it hten?
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> excognac  firdt, type fg, see what happens
[11:22] <excognac> MonkeyDust: i'm viewing the file again
[11:22] <aclffrd> if it's less does q end it?
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> excognac  fg (foreground) un-pauses ctrl-z
[11:23] <excognac> MonkeyDust: ok, thanks. but how do i stop the process?
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> excognac  what command did you use to view the file?
[11:24] <excognac> MonkeyDust: less
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> excognac  ok, then hit q to stop viewing
[11:24] <excognac> MonkeyDust: lol ty
[11:25] <Cuppa_coffee> MonkeyDust, ty.
[11:25] <DJones> excognac: It may be worth using "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" and then once thats installed, use "cat /etc/xorg.conf | pastebinit" which will give you a http address with the contents of your xorg.conf in a paste, all you'll need to do then is give people the link the http address
[11:25] <DJones> excognac: Assuming its still the xorg.conf you wanted to put in a pastebin
[11:26] <excognac> DJones: thanks alot bro
[11:29] <excognac> DJones: but i cant locate package
[11:29] <DJones> excognac: What error message do you get
[11:29] <excognac> DJones:  ignore, gotit.
[11:29] <DJones> No worries
[11:30] <excognac> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6329465
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> excognac  another tip: after you used ctrl-z, you can use 'jobs' to see what's paused
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> DJones: or:  pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     (waste of a cat)
[11:32] <excognac> ActionParsnip: np, i remembered the correct path. as exaple i could use perfectly what he said
[11:41] <renhuang> .
[11:46] <renhuang> ..
[11:47] <renhuang> I'm using ubuntu, but my computer will be very heat!!
[11:48] <renhuang> I'm using ubuntu, but my computer will be very heat!! why?
[11:49] <renhuang> Is somebody there?
[11:50] <DJones> renhuang: You probably need to give some more details to the channel, which version of Ubuntu, what is the computer doing at the time it gets hot, and anything else thats relevant, laptop/desktop.
[11:51] <Demorion> Hello!!!!
[11:52] <renhuang> DJones, I'm doing nothing,but my laptop will be very heat.
[11:53] <Demorion> :D
[11:53] <Demorion> :D
[11:53] <Demorion> kiss me now
[11:53] <renhuang> Is not a lack of graphics driver?
[11:55] <DJones> renhuang: The only time my laptop gets hot is if I'm playing a java based game, apart from, all I can suggest is making sure the fan vents aren't blocked, hopefully somebody else may have a more useful answer though
[11:59] <bgardner> renhuang: I'd run 'top' and see if you have a process maxing your CPU.
[12:01] <bgardner> renhuang: Also, install lm-sensors and see if your machine *appears* hot, or if really is overheating.  Heat is a standard by-product of a computer, so it could be normal.
[12:03] <renhuang> DJones, Well,I'll see
[12:08] <ryorky1> can someone tell me how I would recursively search for a string through in files in directories
[12:08] <ryorky1> I tried this:  grep -rn "mousetrap” /home/ryorky1/public_html/
[12:08] <ryorky1> but it does nothing
[12:09] <ryorky1> just comes up w/ a > after I press enter
[12:09] <ikonia> excognac: I'm back now, are you stil there
[12:10] <excognac> ikonia: wlcb, aye, here.
[12:10] <TrD> hi all
[12:10] <TrD> i want to prevent  Wine from accessing internet
[12:10] <ikonia> excognac: just going through your xorg.conf - it says here you have 2 monitors
[12:10] <TrD> if there are any way ?
[12:11] <ikonia> excognac: it's also showing 2 video cards but at the same device address, this seems very odd
[12:11] <bgardner> ryorky1: Sounds like it isn't finding your search string - are you sure it exists in that folder or below?
[12:11] <ryorky1> anybody at all?
[12:11] <excognac> ikonia: i have one smasung syncmaster 943nw led monitor
[12:11] <ikonia> excognac: if you look at your xorg.conf you can see card1 and card0 both at PCI:0:2:0
[12:12] <ikonia> excognac: one is using framebuffer device module the other vesa
[12:12] <excognac> ikonia: i do see that
[12:12] <ryorky1> bgardner:  I also tried it w/ just my documents folder where I knew a word existed in a .doc file and I got nothing
[12:13] <Razkin> How can I burn XBOX 360 games to USB on Ubuntu 13.04.
[12:13] <ikonia> excognac: I think this is one of those setups where the video card is being taken from onboard the cpu, would I be right in that
[12:13] <bgardner> ryorky1: I just tested it and it works as you would expect - maybe you need to do a case-insensitive search?
[12:13] <Razkin> Hi.
[12:13] <ryorky1> bgardner:  how do I add that?
[12:13] <ryorky1> just add an i?
[12:13] <bgardner> ryorky1: grep -irn
[12:14] <bgardner> ryorky1: Yep
[12:14] <Razkin> How can I burn XBOX 360 games to USB on Ubuntu 13.04.
[12:14] <excognac> ikonia: yes. it's this setup http://ark.intel.com/products/75043/
[12:14] <ikonia> Razkin: they are copy protected
[12:14] <Razkin> ikonia: Will this method also work on Ubuntu? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Burning_Xbox_360_games_with_linux
[12:15] <ikonia> Razkin: don't see why not if you meet the same requirements
[12:15] <Razkin> ill try it out, thanks.
[12:15] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so for me personally, this is a bit of a reach into the unknown as I've only played a litte bit on the onboard graphics cards in cpu with linux
[12:16] <ikonia> excognac: first thing to do is to take a backup of that xorg.conf - treat that as the "base" or "good" file that we can use as a reference
[12:16] <excognac> ikonia: shall i copy it on a usb or so?
[12:16] <ikonia> excognac: could do, just somewhere safe so we can keep referencing it, as I think this may take a few attempts
[12:16] <hesaplayici> guys
[12:17] <hesaplayici> im using ubuntu 12.04 with gnome classic. and when i open sth there is someting appears for 10 sec like " opening blabla"
[12:17] <hesaplayici> at the bottom bar
[12:18] <ryorky1> bgardner:  I am having the system errors popup, could this be contributing to the problem?
[12:18] <bgardner> ryorky1: What errors are you getting?
[12:19] <ryorky1> bgardner:  I just randomly get the system errors popup
[12:19] <excognac> ikonia: ok,i have it backed up
[12:20] <bgardner> ryorky1: Can you provide a screenshot so we can see what you mean?  I doubt it's related, but it's worth checking.
[12:20] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so what I'd suggest doing is removing the sections that reference card0
[12:21] <excognac> ikonia: i just edit it with sudo nano righ?
[12:21] <ryorky1> bgardner:  I'm gonna reboot, then I'll let you know if I have any success
[12:21] <ikonia> excognac: so lines 56 - 69, gone, lines 85 - 113, gone,
[12:21] <SPEEDWAVE> guys what ubuntu is the best for gamer?
[12:21] <ikonia> SPEEDWAVE: none
[12:22] <SPEEDWAVE> ikonia, what?! ok.. hehehehhe
[12:22] <ikonia> excognac: let me know when you are don
[12:22] <ikonia> done
[12:27] <excognac> ikonia: i'm done
[12:27] <ikonia> excognac: ok, now we need to sort out the "serverlayout" as it thinks you have 2 monitors
[12:28] <excognac> ikonia:  nice:) how do we start it?
[12:28] <ikonia> excognac: change line 3 to reference screen 1, so Screen 1 "screen1" 0 0
[12:28] <ikonia> excognac: then delete line 4
[12:28] <Raven> Hello everyone :)
[12:29] <yossarianuk> ok ubuntu 13.10 is bad
[12:29] <yossarianuk> as well as spamming yourself when searching for any app
[12:29] <ikonia> yossarianuk: don't use it then if you don't like it
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !nounity|yossarianuk,
[12:30] <ikonia> yossarianuk: or ask specific questions about issues you'd like to resolve
[12:30] <cfhowlett> yossarianuk, or (ridiculously easy, I know) logout.  choose a different desktop environment.  login.  no unity.
[12:30] <excognac> ikonia: done
[12:30] <yossarianuk> ok - sorry - aside from the fact that Unity is like self spamming - firefox randomly (constantly) freezes
[12:30] <ikonia> excognac: ok, before we do anything else, can I see your xorg.conf as it is now in a pastebin please
[12:30] <yossarianuk> doesn;t happen in other de's
[12:30] <yossarianuk> (I usually use kde..)
[12:31] <cfhowlett> yossarianuk, asked and answered ...
[12:31] <yossarianuk> (just wanted to check out unity)
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !kubuntu|yossarianuk,
[12:31] <ryorky1> bgardner:  for whatever reason, restarting my comp fized the issue, lol
[12:32] <bgardner> ryorky1: Good enough, come on back if you get an error and want to review it.
[12:33] <excognac> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6329733
[12:33] <lionrouge> hi ppl
[12:33] <silverf0x> anyone can help me with crontab? mine seems not working
[12:33] <ikonia> excognac: lets dump lines 43- 47 too
[12:33] <yossarianuk> I am aware of kubuntu (i normally use it) - just wondering if there is a fix for firefox on unity?
[12:33] <lionrouge> how  to ensure i deleted previous video drivers?
[12:34] <yossarianuk> chrome works ok - I prefer firefox though.
[12:34] <cfhowlett> lionrouge, greetings
[12:34] <lionrouge> i'm trying to install steam as described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[12:35] <excognac> ikonia: done
[12:35] <lionrouge> looks a bit outdated
[12:35] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so that's a good "starting point" in my view, reboot and lets see what comes up
[12:35] <whoever> hi all
[12:35] <lionrouge> so how to "remove currently installed drivers"?
[12:36] <dorsatum> hi, there was this particular feature, i'd like to try to implement in 12.04.3, it's to add some functionality  to the windows when they are in the expose mode. could anyone tell me how i should proceed?
[12:36] <excognac> ikonia: login screen looks wider just as beofre shall i log in?
[12:36] <whoever> is there a way i can safty change image names of images that where made with clonezilla se
[12:36] <ikonia> excognac: give it a try
[12:36] <whoever> lionrouge: what is the driver
[12:37] <lionrouge> i use AMD videocard
[12:37] <lionrouge> currently it's opensource one
[12:37] <lionrouge> (13.10 btw)
[12:37] <whoever> lionrouge: settings > aditional divers, at the bottom deativate button
[12:38] <whoever> lionrouge: or if you want to use the close source ones, then  click activate (probably the same button)
[12:39] <lionrouge> nice... can't open settings... it's crushing
[12:39] <bosnjak> hi
[12:40] <bosnjak> when my partition is mounted, the name is "35395d04-4015-4db3-9459-eed1fafa3a9f" - how can i make this something more userfriendly? Like "MyData" or else...
[12:41] <yossarianuk> bosnjak: you can give it a label
[12:41] <whoever> hi all, i am using clonzilla , how can i rename an image  after it has been created
[12:41] <bosnjak> yossarianuk: i do this in fstab?
[12:41] <yossarianuk> then mount as /dev/disk/by-label/name
[12:42] <yossarianuk> you give a label via
[12:42] <yossarianuk> e2label
[12:42] <yossarianuk> then change fstab
[12:42] <lionrouge> whoever, thanks i made it
[12:42] <yossarianuk> i.e say you change the label of /dev/sda1 to kdeisbetter
[12:43] <yossarianuk> then change fstab to
[12:43] <alumno> hola
[12:43] <alumno__> jajajaja
[12:44] <alumno__> estamos al lado
[12:44] <yossarianuk> /dev/disk/by-label/kdeisbetter
[12:44] <alumno> q paSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[12:44] <yossarianuk> uuid's are useful however - there could be a situation when 2 partitions have the same label...
[12:45] <excognac> ikonia: sorry i was afk. now logged on still the same messy gui
[12:45] <deveras> Recommendations for agile free tool for linux. Currently using planner for my personal management
[12:46] <ikonia> excognac: thats ok, so what I need you to try now, is change the word "vesa" to "intel" and restart
[12:46] <ikonia> excognac: see what that does
[12:46] <Codex_> anyone know how to get fglrx-legacy package working?
[12:47] <excognac> ikonia: do i need to stop kdm again or just edit the file?
[12:47] <bosnjak> hm
[12:47] <ikonia> excognac: edit file, reboot
[12:47] <bosnjak> what manages the mounting of my partitions? They are not in fstab, but are mounted anyways?
[12:47] <Codex_> I keep getting error that fglrx.ko is missing
[12:48] <Codex_> and google says there is only amd64 packages available, so 32 bit package is not there
[12:48] <excognac> ikonia: messy again
[12:48] <ikonia> excognac: Hmmm, ok
[12:49] <ikonia> excognac: so the basics are covered
[12:49] <ikonia> excognac: one final basic to change is to change all references to card1 and screen1 to card0 and screen0
[12:49] <ikonia> excognac: they both shared the same pci address, but lets make sure it's still not trying to auto configure card0 dynamic
[12:50] <excognac> ikonia: ok, i change all that now
[12:52] <excognac> ikonia: chhange it in line 70 and 71 too, right?
[12:52] <ikonia> excognac: yes
[12:53] <excognac> ikonia: done rebooting
[12:53] <ikonia> excognac: don't think this will work, just covering all bases
 xchat fails 2 SASL autoidentify my account,i got this message:SASL is supported but there is no authentication information set for this network(linux mint server).how to fix this?
[12:55] <excognac> ikonia: yeah. it doesn't. however previously if i installed lightdm, i could have a graphical interface, without effects tho. that's how we could chat from that computer yesterday
[12:55] <ikonia> excognac: lets not make any more changes yet
[12:55] <ikonia> excognac: I'm going to do a little research on your onboard chip and it's config options for xorg
[12:55] <lionrouge> my steam crashes right after launch
[12:55] <cfhowlett> lionrouge, launch from the command line.  note any error messages
[12:56] <lionrouge> i did
[12:56] <ikonia> excognac: you said earlier you'd tried this in 13.10 and it worked fine, correct ?
[12:56] <lionrouge> segmentation fault
[12:56] <excognac> ikonia: ok. (the only thing i've done was a sudo apt-get update (but not upgrade to install pastebinit) yesterday using xorg bleeding edge backports resulted in nothing visible upon booting or anyting later on.
[12:57] <excognac> ikonia: it was 13.04 live-dvd kubuntu. the live session worked fine, then after install i had a grub rescu prompt.
[12:58] <ikonia> excognac: ok, thats interesting/good to know
[12:58] <lionrouge> please tell me what to do
[12:58] <ikonia> excognac: bring 12.04 up to date, apt-get upgrade
[12:58] <ikonia> excognac: make sure it's "current"
[12:58] <excognac> ikonia: ok
[12:59] <excognac> ikonia: shall i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade too?
[12:59] <ikonia> excognac: can do, shouldn't be any different than upgrade.
[13:00] <excognac> ikonia: kernels and imges are kept back. so i believe it is different,maybe not from our point of view
[13:00] <g105b> Hi I'm trying to install Ubuntu server 13.10 but the first screen "[!!] Select a language" doesn't accept any keyboard input... Any help?
[13:00] <ikonia> excognac: well, get it all updated to current
[13:01] <excognac> ikonia: yesterday i also tried ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports, made no difference.
[13:02] <ikonia> excognac: yeah - no ppa's pleae
[13:02] <ikonia> please
[13:02] <ikonia> excognac: lest just stick with basic stuff from the ubuntu core repos
[13:03] <DrFoo> I lost a txt file because my power went out, where does gedit store the shadow file?
[13:03] <DrFoo> tmp?
[13:06] <philinux> DrFoo: usually as filename~
[13:07] <g105b> I have the Ubuntu server .iso file on one Ubuntu machine, I want to install to another machine over LAN. I see a lot of links out there but they all vary - what's the most up-to-date method of doing this?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> g105b, I think you want something called the PXE install method.  #ubuntu-server would know all about that
[13:09] <philinux> DrFoo: the ~ on the end makes it hidden
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> g105b: pxe server
[13:09] <hufg> my tmpfs /tmp slows down after a while and it's not nearly full for paging to happen
[13:09] <hufg> any ideas?
[13:09] <hufg> tmpfs           6,0G  1,7G  4,4G  27% /tmp
[13:09] <hufg> :Z
[13:09] <hufg> got 32gb
[13:10] <hufg> memory so can't be the issue
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> hufg: is the drive healthy?
[13:15] <galaris> Which version of ubuntu supports Apache 2.4? Also, where can I download test releases of ubuntu server?
[13:15] <DrFoo> philinux: thanks. I think its gone... bummer.
[13:15] <excognac> ikonia: i'm ready soon with the update/grade
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> galaris: there is an ISO of Trusy (Ubuntu 14.04) but it is unstable
[13:16] <DrFoo> How can I get hibernate to work in 12.04?
[13:16] <snadge> my volume control has disappeared, and ive tried a few things to get it to work, to no avail
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> DrFoo: what make and model system?
[13:17] <Happzz> how do i upgrade mysql-server from 5.5 to 5.6 using apt-get
[13:17] <DrFoo> I have an xt2 and it powers down w/o error, but when it boots, it dosn't recover anything
[13:17] <galaris> ActionParsnip : where can I find that ISO?
[13:17] <DrFoo> actionparsnip ^^
[13:17] <cfhowlett> galaris, test version?  for a working server?  you sure you'd not rather use 12.04 LTS until 14.04 LTS is available?
[13:17] <philinux> DrFoo: ah shame
[13:17] <galaris> cfhowlett: Internal test server, only for apache benchamrking
[13:17] <galaris> benchmarking
[13:17] <cfhowlett> galaris, *on your head* :)
[13:18]  * galaris is confused...
[13:18] <excognac> ikonia: i'm done with it. (I'll need to be afk for an hour so, let me know would that suit for you)
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> DrFoo: what happens when you try to hibernate?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> DrFoo: whay is this information NOT in your initial question?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> !info uswsusp precise
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> DrFoo: have you seen this page: http://www.mayrhofer.eu.org/kubuntu-on-dell-latitude-xt
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> DrFoo: have you also tried s2disk ?
[13:20] <snadge> oh woops.. apparently indicator-sound wasn't installed.. weird
[13:20] <DrFoo> actionparsnip: no, I'll check those out.
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> DrFoo: so, what _have_ you tried?
[13:22] <DrFoo> actionparsnip: I've just tried using the hibernate. It goes down fine, but boots without restoring state.... The only thing I've read was building my own kernel and that doesn't seem good without a complete reinstall
[13:24] <galaris> cfhowlett, ActionParsnip, should I look for Trusy ISO here? http://cdimages.ubuntu.com
[13:25] <Guest27433> hi all is there a good way to rename a disk image or do i have to re-image with the name i want to use
[13:25] <blahblah> Guest27433: rename it normally with mv
[13:25] <blahblah> its just a filename
[13:26] <cfhowlett> galaris, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[13:26] <Guest27433> blahblah:  I tried that, and clonezilla will refuse to image with it
[13:27] <cfhowlett> galaris, again: unstable build.  I don't understand how this can give you a reliable testing platform, but ... good luck with that.
[13:27] <blahblah> Guest27433: ah with clonezilla there might be some txt files containing the info, you might need to edit them
[13:27] <blahblah> for the new image name
[13:27] <galaris> thanks cfhowlett
[13:28] <rich__> I'm trying to re-create what "dpkg-reconfigure locales" does, on the command line and without human intervention. I know the first step is editing /etc/locale.gen.
[13:28] <rich__> But, at the end of the process, dpkg-reconfigre asks "Default locale for the system environment:". My question: where is the answer "None" stored?
[13:28] <rich__> Or how do I specify this default locale on the command line?
[13:29] <excognac> ikonia: everything is done now, i need to go away from desk for an hour or so. I'll pm you when back is that ok for you?
[13:30] <Guest27433> blahblah: i think there may be a hash created an the quickest way may be to reimage with the desired image name , but still reading
[13:31] <salman_> how do I use urdu font on my ubuntu machine?
[13:31] <blahblah> salman_: download it
[13:31] <blahblah> put it in .fonts folder
[13:31] <blahblah> choose the font in your program
[13:31] <salman_> super. where is .fonts folder?
[13:32] <blahblah> ls -a ~/.fonts
[13:32] <blahblah> if not mkdir .fonts
[13:32] <Guest27433> blahblah: here is a simler discusion, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/clonezilla-copy-dev-sda2-on-computer-1-%3D-dev-sda4-on-computer-2-a-823909/
[13:32] <jrx> Witam
[13:33] <Poisonfibre> can i install X-server on ubuntu-server (non-GUI) and still run X-server so i can remotely access applications via X11 ?
[13:33] <Poisonfibre> sorry if that was confusing
[13:33] <blahblah> Poisonfibre: you can install what you want
[13:33] <Poisonfibre> but will it work ?
[13:34] <galaris> ssh -X ?
[13:34] <Poisonfibre> yes
[13:34] <Poisonfibre> but since I'm running a command line server, theres no GUI...so can remote computers run applications in GUI mode ?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> salman_  better ask in #ubuntu-in, i guess
[13:35] <blahblah> Poisonfibre: not without X
[13:35] <Poisonfibre> that sucks, Thank you for the information gentlemen
[13:35] <blahblah> as ssh on the remote comps is just the client
[13:35] <blahblah> doesnt contain anything other than the connection
[13:39] <korrosion> How do I completely purge a package?
[13:39] <blahblah> apt-get purge
[13:39] <cfhowlett> korrosion, ^^^
[13:39] <_r1_> hi guys sudo apt-get --purge packagename
[13:39] <Razkin> korrosion: you can also use dpkg -P packagenamehere
[13:39] <Razkin> I would recommend using dpkg instead of apt.
[13:40] <korrosion> Ok. I removes mailutils because I didn't set it up right. I know sometimes doing apt-get remove doesn't completely untilstall it
[13:40] <Razkin> (for purging, ofcourse)
[13:40] <cfhowlett> Razkin, justify?
[13:40] <Razkin> cfhowlett: you may google.
[13:40] <_r1_> and I would recommend using apt-get instead of dpkg
[13:42] <korrosion> how can I reconfigure mailutils
[13:46] <_r1_> hey, someone knows issues about fglrx drivers with focus on wine applications? I'm used to play to StarcraftII through wine, but since I'm usint an ATI card, I lose the focus when I4m ingame.
[13:46] <_r1_> I d'ont find any relative issue on the web, and I can't reach any solution/workaround to keep that focus.
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> _r1_  #winehq would be a better place to ask, i guess
[13:47] <_r1_> ok. seems relative to ubutnu since there is no issue on archlinux
[13:47] <_r1_> but I'll try.
[13:47] <dimitrilc> _r1_: which distro are you running
[13:47] <dimitrilc> like ubuntu version?
[13:47] <_r1_> same issue 13.10 and 12.04
[13:47] <dimitrilc> try kernel 3.12 on 3.10
[13:48] <dimitrilc> try kernel 3.12 on 13.10
[13:48] <johelish> Upon completion of a rsync job sendmail sends email to localhost email but I'd like to change the email adress to a remote email adress.. how can I do this? I've tried to look around
[13:48] <_r1_> dimitrilc: there is some update on the kernel?!
[13:48] <_r1_> about this?
[13:49] <dimitrilc> _r1_: no but you can install it
[13:49] <dimitrilc> I heard that AMD fixed a lot of bugs on the 3.12 kernel
[13:49] <_r1_> ho ok.
[13:51] <_r1_> dimitrilc: the kernel is not on the reporsitories obviously
[13:51] <_r1_> where you get it?
[13:51] <dimitrilc> _r1_: yes it is not, let me look
[13:51] <dimitrilc> _r1_: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-kernel-3-12-rc7-on-ubuntu-linux-mint-debian-crunchbang-kwheezy-pear-os-and-elementary-os/
[13:52] <dimitrilc> _r1_: please read carefully
[13:52] <dimitrilc> if your computer has issues after kernel update, you can revert back to the old one on GRUB
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> _r1_  mind: that's a PPA, not supported here if you have issues with it
[13:53] <_r1_> I know
[13:53] <_r1_> that's why I was asking where he found it
[13:53] <_r1_> I'm kind of aware of that ;)
[13:54] <dimitrilc> MonkeyDust: My apologies, so we are not allowed to put ppas in here?
[13:55] <OerHeks> i wonder if that 3.12 kernel solves wine issues
[13:55] <blahblah> ppas could be anyone hence why theyre not supported
[13:55] <llutz> johelish: thats a cronjob? add MAILTO='foo@bar.com' to your crontab
[13:55] <OerHeks> _r1_, you better try a newer wine version than a newer kerne;
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> !ppa > dimitrilc
[13:55] <nightdrever> what runs faster xubuntu or xfce?
[13:56] <blahblah> it is xfce
[13:56] <_r1_> OerHeks: allready done
[13:56] <blahblah> hence the x in xubuntu
[13:56] <_r1_> OerHeks: actually I can't determine where the bug is from: wine, fglrx, ubuntu/unity/compiz
[13:57] <Kelle> black
[13:57] <cfhowlett> nightdrever, xubuntu is ubuntu + xfce.  your query is confustion.
[13:57] <cfhowlett> confusing
[13:57] <johelish> llutz: doesn't look right? like this one "MAILTO='foo@bar.com' @daily rsync -pav user@domain:/var/www/site/application/folder/ /media/files/folder/ && chmod -R 775 /media/files/folder"
[13:58] <johelish> shouldn't the @ be before the mail
[13:58] <AMRITAVIDYA\u4cs> Where do we find the style box files in the large mediawiki file?
[13:58] <blahblah> nightdrever: there are faster options than xfce if your comp is seriously slow
[13:58] <cfhowlett> AMRITAVIDYA\u4cs, check your channel.  you're in ubuntu.  mediawiki?
[13:58] <korrosion> im having issues using the mail command
[13:58] <AMRITAVIDYA\u4cs> arav93: Sorry
[13:59] <AMRITAVIDYA\u4cs> *Sorry
[13:59] <korrosion> it won't send mail and I've looked all over for answers
[13:59] <llutz> johelish: MAILTO='foo@bar.com' on an own single line, above the cronjobs
[14:00] <korrosion> echo "test" | mail --debug-level=15 -s "test email" you@youremail.com
[14:00] <korrosion> I was doing this
[14:00] <korrosion> even without debug it doesn't send
[14:00] <santhosh> hai  iam getting this error in mrtg"indexmaker --output=/var/www/html/mymrtg/index.html /etc/mrtg/mymrtg.cfg"
 with out adding debuig it can send
 hai  iam getting this error in mrtg"indexmaker --output=/var/www/html/mymrtg/index.html /etc/mrtg/mymrtg.cfg"
[14:01] <korrosion> it just hangs
[14:01] <korrosion> santhosh:
 hai  iam getting this error in mrtg"indexmaker --output=/var/www/html/mymrtg/index.html /etc/mrtg/mymrtg.cfg"
[14:02] <awallin> anyone else having problems with hardware-sensors-indicator in 13.10?  for me 'sudo sensors' shows cpu temp data, but sensors-indicator doesn't show it in the top bar
 hai  iam getting this error in mrtg"indexmaker --output=/var/www/html/mymrtg/index.html /etc/mrtg/mymrtg.cfg"
[14:03] <korrosion> ?
[14:03] <blahblah> santhosh: stop spamming
[14:03] <santhosh> Use of uninitialized value $first in hash element at /usr/bin/indexmaker line 353. in mrtg
[14:03] <dtigue> santhosh: patience is a virtue
 <blahblah>  i need this in that caser iam spamming
[14:04] <cfhowlett> !patience|santhosh,
[14:04] <blahblah> santhosh: you didnt even paste the error and spammed the same question on basically 3 lines
[14:05] <santhosh>  <ubottu> i did not answer on that site
[14:05] <spyke581> I just booted an ubuntu live disk and it stuck on busy box initramfs, is this normal? if so how do i move forward to install the os?
[14:06] <dtigue> santhosh: what software is even giving you these errors
[14:06] <santhosh> centos 6.4 and ubuntu 12.04<dtigue>
[14:06] <dtigue> spyke581: that isn't normal, something wrong happened, try rebooting to the live disk, also did you run the check disk?
[14:07] <dtigue> spyke581: not check disk, checksum
[14:07] <spyke581> dtigue, i did not
[14:07] <blahblah> rebooting might help, sometimes random things can happen (rarely)
[14:07] <spyke581> rebooting got me to the same place
[14:07] <dtigue> spyke581: make sure the media is ok, also rebooting is a good first try at fixing the issue
[14:07] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|santhosh, bad downloads do happen
[14:08] <dtigue> spyke581: ok, then something else is messed up, maybe yourmedia
[14:08] <spyke581> ill check the media, thanks
[14:09] <santhosh>  <ubottu> iam trying that but it getting same error
[14:09] <dtigue> i really need to learn ubottu commands
[14:10] <dtigue> santhosh: ubottu is a bot, you can't carry a conversation with it
[14:10] <syntac> is there a workspace switcher that i can add next to the clock in unity?
[14:10] <somsip> !brain | dtigue
[14:10] <hillcd> hi
[14:10] <blahblah> hi
[14:10] <dtigue> somsip: thanks
[14:11] <santhosh> what is the meaning of this"ubottu is a bot"<dtigue>
[14:11] <ikonia> santhosh: it means ubottu - the nickname is an IRC bot, it's not a person
[14:11] <blahblah> santhosh: its not a human
[14:11] <hillcd> i'm trying to upgrade a really old (10.04) version of ubuntu and i've run into problems
[14:11] <santhosh> ok  <ikonia>
[14:11] <dtigue> somsip: it looks like ubottu is a supy bot, if so thats great i've ran many of them so the plugins should come natural to me
[14:12] <blahblah> hillcd: i would backup the data and clean install
[14:12] <blahblah> would be cleaner
[14:12] <hillcd> i'd really prefer if i didn't have to do that... for a start i have nowhere to back it up to
[14:12] <blahblah> make a new partition temporarily?
[14:12] <blahblah> most of it should only be txt files
[14:13] <blahblah> for the configs
[14:13] <blahblah> and put your music or whatever else you have in that new partition
[14:13] <hillcd> so is there just no other way to do it?
[14:13] <blahblah> well what problems have you run into?
[14:14] <dtigue> hillcd: the best way i've seen to upgrade older versions is to get all the updates for the version you're on then upgrade to the 10.10, then gets 10.10's updates, then upgrade to 11.04, etc, this process could take forever, best to do a clean install and then start keeping up with the latest version
[14:14] <hillcd> when i run do-release-upgrade... it tells me that no new release is found
[14:14] <hillcd> if i do it with -d it says it failed upgrade tool signature
[14:15] <hillcd> dtigue... yup that's what i'm trying to do (although I'm hoping to jump between LTS releases)
[14:16] <dtigue> i forget is 10.04 LTS?\
[14:16] <hillcd> yes
[14:16] <cfhowlett> dtigue, it is
[14:16] <dtigue> oh, that might make it easier
[14:16] <johelish> llutz: doesn't appear to send any mail or log anything to /var/mail/user now ..
[14:16] <dtigue> hillcd: did you do update-manager -d?
[14:17] <llutz> johelish: why should it? it sends output (if there is any) to the mailaddress given in MAILTO
[14:17] <hillcd> yup... then it gives me: Checking for new ubuntu release \ Failed upgrade tool signature \ Failed Upgrade tool \ done downloading \ failed to fetch
[14:17] <hillcd> seems like it's got some problem getting the upgrade tool?
[14:18] <dtigue> http://askubuntu.com/questions/270396/10-04-12-04-upgrade-server-do-release-upgrade-fail-what-sources-to-change <<  hillcd  have you read this yet?
[14:18] <hillcd> let me check
[14:18] <johelish> llutz: oh, alright but it's not sending any emails thought
[14:18] <llutz> johelish: if you want to send mails to remote systems, you need a working mta (like ssmtp/msmtp...)
[14:21] <hillcd> dtigue: i've done pretty much exactly what the answer describes
[14:21] <olimpop> como utilizar backdoor.ploutus para sacar dinero cajeros
[14:21] <hillcd> haven't played with /var/lib/update-manager at all
[14:21] <olimpop> jajaja
[14:22] <hillcd> hmmmm... interesting my meta-release file stops at 9.10....
[14:23] <timbozeman> I upgraded to 13.10 and now apache says the default message "It works! This is the default web page for this server...." any ideas?
[14:23] <dtigue> hillcd: you've done the following >> sudo apt-get install update-manager-core sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades then in that file change Prompt=lts, then run sudo do-release-upgrade ??
[14:23] <hillcd> yes done those dtigue
[14:24] <guestperson421> does anyone know if there are packages for the virtualbox 4.3 guest additions anywhere?
[14:24] <dtigue> hillcd: and you still get the failure errors? have you looked through any of the logs to see if there is any thing that might point you towards the problem?
[14:25] <dtigue> hillcd: /var/log/dist-upgrade  might have something in there that may help
[14:26] <dtigue> hillcd: /var/log/dpkg.log << check that too
[14:26] <hillcd> ok... will check the logs
[14:26] <dtigue> /var/log/apt/history.log << hillcd
[14:26] <hillcd> thanks for all your help dtigue
[14:27] <hufg> ActionParsnip: no idea, what do you mean?=
[14:27] <dtigue> hillcd: no problem, i've never ran in to that issue before so I'm trying to just give you some ideas on how to figure out why it is failing, if we know why then maybe we can try to fix it, if you figure anything out i would be interested in knowing
[14:28] <excognac> ikonia: hi i'm back, do you have some sparetime now to continue?
[14:28] <korrosion> how do make this command display the ping in the terminal: ping -c $COUNT $myHost | grep 'received' | awk -F',' '{ print $2 }' | awk '{ print $1 }'
[14:28] <ikonia> excognac: I'm still digging around at the moment
[14:29] <ikonia> excognac: I've not forgotton you, just lots of info
[14:29] <excognac> ikonia: ok, ty. if anything i can do/help, just lemme know
[14:29] <ikonia> excognac: of course
[14:31] <hillcd> yeah, it's a strange one... i mean, i understand it's not supported anymore so anything could have changed, but it's strange it doesn't work
[14:33] <korrosion> How can I run a command and show the output.
[14:33] <thinknow> anyone know how i can give privigies just to use the commands"sudo /etc/init.d/openvpn start and then sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf" to one user without making him admin?
[14:33] <korrosion> I'm doing a ping monitor and want it to show the pings
[14:34] <thinknow> please pm me if you got any details, or write here, but if it goes a while before you reply please pm me, much appreciate it
[14:34] <thinknow> anyone know how i can give privigies just to use the commands"sudo /etc/init.d/openvpn start and then sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf" to one user without making him admin?
[14:34] <thinknow> sry
[14:38] <oooxff> hi all, when i apt-get dist-upgrade, it takes too much times, how can i cancel it ?
[14:39] <oooxff> Just Ctrl+c ?
[14:39] <adamk> You can...  Generally I'd say it's best just to let it run.
[14:42] <hillcd> <-- digging through the internals of do-release-upgrade to see why it throws the errors it is...
[14:44] <sahil__> hello
[14:45] <cfhowlett> sahil__, greetings
[14:46] <KimK> Any ideas why 12.04's Add Printer/Detect Network Printers function would "freeze/hang" (grayed out, spinning hourglass) and never find anything while trying to add my first 12.04 printer? This same PC works great when 10.04 is booted, it finds a dozen or so (company) printers, and I've connected to and used two of them.
[14:47] <sahil__> i am running ubuntu 12.04 and wish to have a ondemand cpu  governor. i hear that newer kernal have this feature.can i upgrade my kernal without making my system unstable?? i have virtual box, propitiatory nvdia driver and huwaei drivers installed
[14:47] <whiskyphilips> hello
[14:47] <cfhowlett> KimK, no idea.  my 12.04 works perfectly finding the network printers.
[14:47] <whiskyphilips> hello
[14:47] <cfhowlett> KimK, if you find the printer properties, supplying the printer url would probably help
[14:48] <KimK> cfhowlett: OK, thanks, that's good to know at least
[14:48] <cfhowlett> whiskyphilips, greetings
[14:48] <sahil__> @cfhowlett any idea?
[14:48] <cfhowlett> sahil__, not my area of "expertise".  sorry.
[14:49] <DrFoo> where is the openvpn daemon located? My client is now saying it's not there....
[14:49] <sahil__> k..
[14:49] <KimK> cfhowlett: Yes, I was considering entering the printer manually, but the (auto-discovered) urls are usually somewhat complicated
[14:49] <whiskyphilips> cfhowlett asl
[14:50] <Guest39613> hi all how do i get block id of a partion ? blkid /dev/sdbx does return anything
[14:50] <rypervenche> Guest39613: sudo blkid
[14:50] <|newbie|> hello
[14:50] <moultonl> I'm running a java app, and getting a warning about a security certificate.  This app runs on a server on the LAN ( it's our ERP) so I trust it (at least as far as I trust the company) and I don't see a way to shut off the notification.
[14:50] <cfhowlett> KimK, is this an hp printer
[14:50] <joncam> Anyone here know Evolution, or the right place to go to chat about Evolution (the email client, not the Darwin work) - having a problem with a calendar in evo-ews I can't fix, and #evolution doesn't seem like the right place
[14:50] <|newbie|> how is the ubuntu family doing today
[14:51] <hillcd> hmmmm... i give up for now... thanks all for your help, dtigue especially
[14:51] <cfhowlett> KimK, also try adding via http://localhost:631/
[14:51] <Guest39613> rudyismydog: that is returning  blank even with sudo
[14:52] <Guest39613> rypervenche: only returns some of the disks not all
[14:52] <rypervenche> Guest39613: Then the others don't have file systems on them. You can see them all by doing "sudo fdisk -l"
[14:52] <rypervenche> Guest39613: You can see swap with "swapon -s"
[14:52] <sr20dett>  In the ubuntu sdk how can i use items out of the component show case in my app.
[14:53] <Pici> sr20dett: Try asking in #ubuntu-app-devel
[14:54] <hufg> 32gb of memory and tmpfs slows down and gets cluttered with temp files(they get removed with default mount) any ideas? 8(
[14:54] <hufg> tmpfs /tmp
[14:54] <X3NQ> Anyone having problems with askpass not prompting for ssh key passwords in Gnome after the update?
[14:55] <Guest39613> rypervenche: here is my prob, when i boot, i get a message that i am unable to mount , so i press 's' yet when i finish logging in , all my drives appear to be mounded when i brouse the file system, but mount shows only 3 of the 4 mounted
[14:55] <rypervenche> Guest39613: Which one is missing?
[14:55] <KimK> cfhowlett: Yes, perhaps half of them here are HP, the rest assorted others. The two I'd like to connect to are an Oce/Gestetner/Lanier/Whatever and an HP9000 (both big freestanding office-sized printers). They both work great on 10.04, funny I can't see any printers on 12.04.
[14:56] <timbozeman> how come after upgrading to 13.10 I can't alt + tab to sublime text? O_o
[14:56] <Guest39613> rypervenche:  subosedly its my partiton for vbox
[14:56] <rypervenche> Guest39613: You created a partition for vbox yourself?
[14:56] <Guest39613> rudyismydog: yes
[14:56] <rypervenche> Guest39613: Is it showing up when you type "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[14:57] <Guest39613> rypervenche: i have an sdc1 and sdc2 but when i do blkid only sdc1 is showing
[14:58] <rypervenche> Guest39613: What partition type is sdc2 showing up as?
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> Guest39613  try lsblk (and change your nick to soe
[14:59] <rypervenche> MonkeyDust: Oooo, awesome command. *noted*
[14:59] <bgardner> timbozeman: Did you get your answer?
[14:59] <timbozeman> bgardner: naw :(
[15:00] <bgardner> timbozeman: Where is your apache docroot?
[15:00] <timbozeman> bgardner: in sites-available?
[15:01] <bgardner> timbozeman: I mean on disk - it sounds like either you picked up a stock index.html in a docroot that has maybe index.php or index.jsp in it, so you want to peek at your docroot /var/www maybe?
[15:01] <Guest39613> rypervenche: how do i show the type ?
[15:01] <Guest39613> MonkeyDust: thx the drive shows in lsblk
[15:04] <bgardner> timbozeman: Any files in your DocumentRoot matching index.* that are supposed to be the actual default document?  It may be as simple as removing (or restoring, depending on your installation) /var/www/index.html
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> Guest39613  great!
[15:04] <timbozeman> bgardner: Yep, that is what is going on. When I installed apache I pointed the documentroot to a different directory. now its pointing at /var/www like you said
[15:05] <timbozeman> <3
[15:06] <whoever> MonkeyDust: so how da i get the partion typ  of a partition
[15:07] <timbozeman> bgardner: but in my sites-available directory I point my document root to the websites folder hermmm
[15:08]  * timbozeman scratches head
[15:08] <timbozeman> I think some config file got overwritten when I upgraded to 13.10
[15:10] <bgardner> timbozeman: Sounds like it.  You should check your backup of /etc/apache2/ against the current copy.
[15:10] <timbozeman> backup?  D:
[15:11] <jmunsch> so i recently started a job where i work on refurbished computers. if they do not have a windows COA on them i am thinking of putting ubuntu 12.04. will the end user run into issues? if lets say they are used to windows? any thoughts on this ... don't want to set some laptops into the wild and give ubuntu a bad rap ... since it actively requires users to acknowledge proprietary stuff more succinctly??? thoughts?
[15:11] <bgardner> timbozeman: Ah, hmm.  Did the upgrade make a backup for you?  /etc/apache2/apache2.conf.orig or whatever.
[15:12] <timbozeman> bgardner: doesn't look like it
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> whoever  if your nick changed to Guest: try findmnt
[15:13] <jmgk_> hi
[15:13] <bgardner> timbozeman: What's in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled?
[15:14] <timbozeman> bgardner: a bunch of sim links I made to ../sites-available the owner is root:root
[15:15] <bgardner> timbozeman: Well, start reviewing your apache2.conf, I guess - it should load all the entries in sites-enabled, but it sounds like you said it isn't working.  Any links in sites-enabled that you didn't put there?
[15:16] <timbozeman> bgardner: I haven't touched apache2.conf since I installed lamp on this box a few months  ago. I ussually just make a sites-available file, sites-enabled link, and add a line in the hosts file
[15:17]  * timbozeman reviews apache2.conf
[15:18] <bgardner> timbozeman: Try this:  grep -H "/var/www" /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*
[15:19] <timbozeman> bgardner: there's a sim link (new?) called 000-default.conf
[15:19] <bgardner> timbozeman: Yeah, that's the default - what's the date on it?  Match your upgrade date?
[15:20] <timbozeman> bgardner: yes, yesterday at 1pm
[15:20] <bgardner> timbozeman: Remove the symlink and bounce apache, should take care of it
[15:20] <gryg> Hello, which vnc server should I use? x11vnc or vino?
[15:20] <gryg> I'm using elementaryos so it is not preinstalled.
[15:21] <rypervenche> gryg: I personally use x11vnc myself.
[15:21] <timbozeman> bgardner:    I unlinked it and restarted apache, no dice :(
[15:22] <gryg> rypervenche, I need to install this on virtual machine were is elementaryos installed. Should this work fine with virtual gpu?
[15:22] <xgt001> hi, how do I disable icons in menus
[15:22] <bgardner> timbozeman: Say what?  No config file in sites-enabled has /var/www in it, but your apache2 is serving files from there?
[15:22] <rypervenche> gryg: yep, it'll work fine. I usually run "x11vnc -display :0 -localhost -forever" and then I create an SSH tunnel for port 5900, although you could get rid of the -localhost and connect directly to it.
[15:23] <gryg> rypervenche, oki. I will try this way ;]
[15:23] <timbozeman> bgardner: I get no results from greping /var/www sites-enabled. So yeah, hmm weird
[15:23] <bgardner> timbozeman: grep -H "/var/www" /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*
[15:24] <bgardner> timbozeman: Sorry, wrong copy buffer: grep -irH "/var/www" /etc/apache2/
[15:24] <Private_User> hello people
[15:25] <timbozeman> bgardner: There is a line in apache.conf <Directory /var/www/>
[15:25] <bgardner> timbozeman: If no results, do a full stop-wait-start on apache, rather than a restart
[15:25] <Private_User> quick question if I have ubuntu server installed on a machine can I install the ubuntu desktop using the live cd from the terminal?
[15:27] <wilee-nilee> Private_User, No internet?
[15:27] <OerHeks> Private_User, just perform "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[15:28] <Private_User> yepo done that but does not work
[15:28] <Private_User> *yep
[15:28] <bgardner> timbozeman: *puzzled* Shouldn't be there for a default install...  at least, I don't think so.  What version of Ubuntu is this?
[15:28] <Private_User> 13.04 server installed on machine
[15:28] <timbozeman> bgardner: it was 13.04 I upgraded to 13.10 yesterday and it broke. Maybe it upgraded apache at the same time?
[15:29] <timbozeman> bgardner: apache version 2.4.6
[15:29] <Private_User> I have searched the net but cannot find anything to help wondering if I need to download some other file to install
[15:29] <bgardner> timbozeman: Well, I don't have a 13.10 with apache to look at, but my apache (2.2.22) just relies on sites-enabled.
[15:29] <andreb> hrm... hi all
[15:30] <bgardner> timbozeman: But you don't use /var/www - so comment out that block and try that.
[15:30] <wilee-nilee> Private_User, details and errors on the attempt?
[15:30] <andreb> i created a group call admin... added my user to the group and the limited su so only members of that group can "su" to root.. but now my user cant su to root and hes in the admin group
[15:30] <andreb> what did i do wrong ?
[15:30] <bgardner> timbozeman: If you don't have sensitive info in it, you can also pastebin your apache.conf and I'll look over it with you.
[15:31] <Private_User> unable to locate package ubuntu-desktop
[15:31] <gryg> rypervenche, thx it works, but vnc is too slow :/
[15:31] <timbozeman> bgardner: Thank you very much! http://pastebin.ca/2472728
[15:32] <Private_User> I downloaded the ISO from the website
[15:32] <Private_User> copied to a usb
[15:32] <rypervenche> gryg: VNC isn't slow, it is probably your client that is using too good of quality.
[15:32] <Private_User> mounted the usb
[15:32] <andreb> anyone ?
[15:32] <Private_User> but not sure which file to run there
[15:32] <wilee-nilee> Private_User, Have you run a update at all?
[15:32] <gryg> rypervenche, but on low quality I can not work
[15:33] <Private_User> the machine is a standalone no connectivity
[15:33] <gryg> I'm connecting to server over ocean (from europe to usa)
[15:33] <rypervenche> gryg: Sure you can. Why wouldn't you be able to? If the VM can't handle the connection, perhaps there are not enough resources allocated to it. Still, you should have no problem using VNC on it.
[15:33] <wilee-nilee> Private_User, I asked you if you had net access.
[15:34] <Private_User> not on the pc i want to install the ubuntu desktop
[15:34] <willybilly0101> just curious, does ubuntu 64 also includes 32 bit libraries, or you can run only 64 bit software?
[15:34] <Private_User> I also tried to do a fresh install by booting with usb
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> willybilly0101 been that for awhile.
[15:35] <Private_User> I have the same issue as the one posted on ask ubuntu but there is no reply there
[15:35] <willybilly0101> wilee-nilee, been how?
[15:35] <bgardner> timbozeman: Looks like a lot has changed between my version and yours, but the overall configuration is really close now that you commented out those lines.  Have you tried restarting and testing it yet since you made those edits?
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> 32 or 64 willybilly0101 depending on what's available
[15:35] <Private_User> http://askubuntu.com/questions/368439/unable-to-install-ubuntu-desktop-13-10 I have this issue as well
[15:35] <timbozeman> bgardner: yes, I'm trying to do the config changes from this url http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/upgrading.html
[15:36] <willybilly0101> so ubuntu 64 it's actually mixed, but has 64bit kernel
[15:36] <wilee-nilee> willybilly0101, its called multiarch
[15:36] <bgardner> timbozeman: Excellent choice, let us know how that goes.
[15:36] <willybilly0101> yeap
[15:36] <willybilly0101> unpure :)
[15:36] <willybilly0101> thanks
[15:36] <wilee-nilee> willybilly0101, some things are only in 32 bit.
[15:37] <willybilly0101> I know
[15:40] <celso> hi all. people, i am playing nexuiz with a radeon 5470HD and i can't pass the 61 fps. i am using ubuntu 13.04 with 3.11 kernel with dpm enabled. i am playing with no vsync enabled and whattever resolution is, i always get no more than 61 fps. is radeon blocking something?
[15:43] <Ari-Yang> celso: I think you should also ask that question on #radeon
[15:43] <celso> ohh  thanks
[15:43] <Ari-Yang> celso: you might need to upgrade your mesa to mesa 9.2 or 10 even
[15:43] <celso> didn't know that there was a radeon channel.
[15:44] <Ari-Yang> well now you do~
[15:44] <celso> the problem is that it seem that is locked to that fps
[15:44] <celso> but thanks for the info :)
[15:45] <antar> Hi people
[15:45] <__raven_> 13.10 how to install the old full featured nautilus?
[15:46] <antar> can you give me a good google notifier for ubuntu ?
[15:46] <Sneferu> hummmmm, just as I thought....bye
[15:46] <antar> __raven_, maybe sudo apt-get install nautilus
[15:47] <__raven_> antar the old one not the trash what is included
[15:48] <andreb> can anyone help mne.. i am using ubuntu server 12.04 lts and i did the following "sudo groupadd admin" ..then "sudo usermod -a -G admin andreb" ..and then  "sudo dpkg-statoverride --update --add root admin 4750 /bin/su" ... but now my user andreb cant 'su' i am getting permission denied... did i miss a step or something ?
[15:48] <antar> i have the 3.4.2 on my 12.04.3
[15:49] <antar> __raven_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/286056/how-can-i-downgrade-to-an-older-version-of-nautilus
[15:49] <reisio> andreb: su or sudo? su won't work without a password, I don't think
[15:50] <andreb> reision it doesnt even prompt for a password when i try to elivate my user to root
[15:50] <andreb> i can do sudo just find
[15:50] <andreb> fine
[15:50] <loa> i have problem, when i try to close window by trying to click on window icons in the left top corner, icons dissapear when move my cursor over them =/
[15:50] <reisio> andreb: and you want to use su instead because?
[15:51] <kaklaa> hello everyone, see that link ,http://imagebin.org/275264, this is boot chart of my laptop,  i want to boot my laptop faster, tell me which services i can disable safely and how, i used bum and disabled few like timidity, xfs etc, in startup i disabled some items which i don't like, i want to improve more, anybody please help, which service i can disable safely and how to stop them, and how to re-enable them, if i want
[15:52] <timbozeman> bgardner: The trick was to rename sites-available/mysite to sites-available/mysite.conf
[15:52] <andreb> there is an program that i use... that i need to run an update on.. and they recommand that you do the update as root
[15:52] <kaklaa> i can also disable plymouth, if it is taking a lot of time
[15:53] <bgardner> timbozeman: Ah - I did see that our two files differed specifically by that.  Mine says 'sites-enabled/' while yours is 'sites-enabled/*.conf', but I didn't think about why.
[15:53] <bgardner> timbozeman: But as long as you got your answer.
[15:54] <timbozeman> bgardner++ thank you very much for your time!
[15:54] <bgardner> timbozeman: Any time, glad to help out
[15:55] <feros> Anyone here good at wine :P? #winehq seems dead :P
[15:57] <reisio> feros: probably someone is
[15:57] <feros> have asked reiso :P
[15:58] <andreb> reisio any pointers for me ?
[15:58] <reisio> feros: asked what?
[15:58] <reisio> andreb: when you prepend 'sudo ' to a command, it runs as root
[15:59] <feros> I told them my issue, and asked for help about it. Yet no reply :P
[15:59] <feros> and now I cant even figure out how to uninstall it -.-"
[15:59] <reisio> feros: your issue?
[15:59] <reisio> is a mystery
[16:00] <feros> xD Sorry reading my ass off :P
[16:00] <feros>  Just installed it, and got a game down. It installed the game fine, BUT! When I try to start it and everything else now all I get is a error.
[16:00] <feros> Program Error. "The program (unidentified) etc etc
[16:00] <feros> and when I press show info it closes
[16:03] <kaklaa> hello everyone, see that link ,http://imagebin.org/275264, this is boot chart of my laptop,  i want to boot my laptop faster, tell me which services i can disable safely and how, i used bum and disabled few like timidity, xfs etc, in startup i disabled some items which i don't like, i want to improve more, anybody please help, which service i can disable safely and how to stop them, and how to re-enable them
[16:04] <andreb> resisio i believe doing "sudo -i" would work for my program..thanks
[16:08] <LinuxGold> http://devnull-as-a-service.com/
[16:08] <LinuxGold> lol
[16:12] <excognac> ikonia: i'm leaving the office now. do you think i should post this on lanchpad? or we give it a shot in 19 hours?
[16:14] <ciciorossi> hola
[16:14] <ciciorossi> +i
[16:14] <ciciorossi> !list
[16:15] <reisio> ciciorossi: shalom
[16:18] <galaris> anybody can help me set up apache + php-fpm on Ubuntu 13.10 for wordpress? I'M having troubles installing php.
[16:18] <reisio> what troubles?
[16:20] <excognac> cya tomorrow all, thanks for providing help
[16:21] <galaris> I did apt-get install apache2 php5-fpm
[16:21] <galaris> but when I go to index.php it's just displays the php file as text. I'm probably missing some rule, but I can't figure out where and whatű
[16:22] <bgardner> LinuxGold: Hilarious :D
[16:25] <mathisen> galaris sudo apt-get install php5 libapache2-mod-php5 and then sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[16:27] <_Possum> question, i have set ownership for a certain folder to user:group  kafka:staff   .  i have an ftp daemon running which is using the username libuuid, i added him as a primary group to group staff, now i've set chmod 770 on that folder crated by user kafka, when i'm trying to browse the folder via the ftp daemon (establishing ftp connection) it says permission denied when trying to access it
[16:27] <_Possum> what am i doing wrong
[16:27] <_Possum> drwxrwxr-- 13 kafka staff  126 Jan 27  2002 incoming
[16:27] <_Possum> uid=100(libuuid) gid=50(staff) groups=50(staff)
[16:30] <spyke581> Im trying to install ubuntu on a new machine but the sstem stops and busybox. The media and checksum are both correct
[16:30] <spyke581> stops at busybox*
[16:31] <galaris> mathisen: Will that use php-fpm?
[16:33] <mathisen> galaris im not familiar with php-fpm but read this >> http://www.howtoforge.com/using-php5-fpm-with-apache2-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts
[16:33] <mathisen> maybe something usefull there
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> spyke581  on SSD or a common hard disk?
[16:35] <spyke581> Im installing on an SSD but its booting from a dvd,
[16:35] <feros> When I start Wine, Mono and Gecko installer crashes, help please :( (Winehq is silent atm..)
[16:36] <reisio> feros: nobody knows what you want
[16:36] <spyke581> MonkeyDust, i havnet gotten that far though. it went straight there after the bios
[16:36] <reisio> feros: because you've never said
[16:36] <galaris> mathisen: thanks
[16:37] <feros> I want wine to work xD
[16:37] <reisio> feros: 'work' is ambiguous
[16:37] <reisio> I'd like the world to work
[16:38] <feros> That would be great aswell!
[16:38] <feros> :P
[16:38] <feros> Well Wine does crash when it tries to install Mono and Gecko, I want to play WoW and LoL on my ubuntu :P
[16:38] <LinuxGold> http://www.wikihow.com/Ask-a-Question-Intelligently
[16:43] <loa> i have problem, when i try to close window by trying to click on window icons in the left top corner, icons dissapear when move my cursor over them =/
[16:49] <wilee-nilee> loa, Have you modified compiz, what release what desktop?
[16:49] <loa> no
[16:49] <loa> 13.10
[16:50] <xangua> where in / are the ppa files stored¿
[16:50] <jjavaholic> Every second right click in Thunar crashes Thunar with: unity_gtk_menu_shell_get_items: assertion 'shell->menu_shell != NULL' failed Segmentation fault can someone point out what is going on here
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> xangua, /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:51] <loa> wilee-nilee, how i can restart compiz?
[16:51] <loa> unity *
[16:51] <loa> i forgot
[16:52] <wilee-nilee> loa, many benefit from a reset. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[16:52] <yeyeman> wow KVIrc is so bloated
[16:52] <yeyeman> I can't even find basic stuff like "hide leave/join msgs"
[16:52] <wilee-nilee> bloated the commonly used word with no meaning
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> "just the facts" joe friday
[16:54] <yeyeman> so confusing
[16:57] <morfeu> boa tarde
[16:59] <loa> wilee-nilee, one command helped)
[16:59] <loa> how i can set icon size?
[16:59] <yeyeman> testing
[17:00] <yeyeman> helo
[17:01] <wilee-nilee> loa, In the panel, where?
[17:01] <loa> wilee-nilee, found it, in unity launcher
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> loa, cool you can resize the launcher from a right click on the desktop.
[17:05] <marlo> i know there's probably a clever way to do this, I'd like to 'cat * | grep Subnet' and have the output also include the filename of the file that it finds...
[17:08] <kongthap> hi, i have a problem with create .desktop for ADT program, I got a very BIG icon (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61719196/56-10/Screenshot%20from%202013-10-31%2000%3A03%3A36.png), this is my .desktop looks like (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61719196/56-10/Screenshot%20from%202013-10-31%2000%3A02%3A49.png) please help
[17:09] <docmur> I'm looking for a some well supported and good preforming usb wireless adapters running the broadcom bc43 chipset.
[17:09] <Dubu> marlo: Then just skip the useless 'cat' and just do 'grep Subnet *'
[17:10] <minimec> kongthap: save the file as *.png file and try again. At the same time you could resize the image to 128px or so.
[17:11] <marlo> Dubu, thanks!
[17:12] <marlo> Dubu, oh, glory be, i knew it would be something simple!
[17:13] <yeyeman> man I sure love ubuntu so great wow
[17:15] <ffreemen> gg
[17:15] <yeyeman> am I connected to this channel?
[17:16] <reisio> yeyeman: possibly
[17:16] <bgardner> yeyeman: Could be
[17:16] <yeyeman> great just grea
[17:16] <maxflax> Is there any advantages running UEFI grub vs old grub2?
[17:17] <reisio> maxflax: there's only grub legacy and grub2
[17:18] <trevnorris> using saucy, 3.11.0-12-generic, perf list isn't showing any tracepoint events. is there another package that I need to install?
[17:19] <m3kk> should one update kernel yourself?
[17:19] <m3kk> or is that done automatic?
[17:19] <daaku> anyone have any experience with using custom sources when setting up a system using debootstrap? i setup a custom script where i setup my sources.list in first_stage_install but it doesn't survive
[17:20] <kongthap> minimec: i just save as .png, i got it fixed now, thanks :)
[17:20] <minimec> kongthap: no problem
[17:22] <yeyeman> where is the setting for how many workspaces I have?
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> maxflax, I'm not sure that uefi benefits linux in general, it does have a gpt partitioning, generally included, but one can do the same excess of partitions with an extended in a msdos setup.
[17:23] <reisio> yeyeman: I think the tweak tool exposes that
[17:23] <m3kk> yeyeman, yeah gnome tweak tool can handle that  + expose / hot conerns
[17:23] <m3kk> corners*
[17:24] <marlo> Dubu, can you point me to where i can then format the output, something on the order of 'ls -la' where by I can extract values from my Subnet = line (with the filename in there) and get it formatted into a columnar output?  Just a little push to the command (sed or awk or whatever) and I should be able to figure it out
[17:25] <Dubu> marlo: How do those lines look like? What do you want to extract from them?
[17:26] <Dubu> marlo: "extract values" is a bit unclear for me.
[17:28] <owner_> home
[17:29] <Guest2605> how to install flash player
[17:30] <Canadaftw> hello
[17:30] <Canadaftw> can someone help me?
[17:30] <yeyeman> I didn't find anything called tweak tool, but I fixed it in compiz config manager
[17:30] <omgitsmit> Canadaftw: dont ask to ask the question, just ask it
[17:30] <omgitsmit> yeyeman: you mean ubuntu-tweak? it should be in the repos
[17:31] <Canadaftw> i installed lubuntu, no audio drivers, couldnt get anything to work, decided to install xubuntu for fun, reformated lubuntu partition, now it says grub error and cant boot from liveusb. currently using crunchbang live session.
[17:31] <Canadaftw> How can i fix my grub and get my win install back (didnt touch it beforehand)
[17:32] <omgitsmit> Canadaftw: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows
[17:32] <omgitsmit> Have you followed the usual?
[17:34] <geirha> Canadaftw: The reason grub fails is because grub had files on the partition you reformated.
[17:34] <Canadaftw> I kinda understand now, but why does it not give me the option of installing from usb or booting into windows now.
[17:35] <Canadaftw> Sorry for asking stupid questions, im very new to linux.
[17:35] <marlo> Dubu, cdfCmcServer:Subnet = 192.168.56.20/32... 'cdfCmcServer' is variable length, so 56.20 ends up in a different column for each file... i'm really after the .20 so I can see what all my ip assignments are.  i would say pull out the name at the beginning of the line prior to the ':' colon and tack it on at the end or something
[17:35] <geirha> Canadaftw: To boot from usb, you likely have to enter the bios and tell it to try booting the usb before the harddrive
[17:35] <Canadaftw> I have, im not that new.
[17:35] <Kihokki> Mother of god what is this, my Steam games are working out of box with open graphics driver
[17:36] <compdoc> Kihokki, that sucks
[17:36] <Canadaftw> I attempted to install crunchbang on the old lubunto partiton as a final attempt and it kept failing to install the grub and the lilo booter.
[17:37] <geirha> Canadaftw: Maybe the image didn't get loaded properly on the usb then. Grub has nothing to do with that part. The reason it can't boot windows is because you removed grub's files.
[17:37] <Canadaftw> Ok, that makes sence, but how do i add fresh grub files?
[17:37] <Canadaftw> Like I said, im unable to install anything to said partion
[17:38] <horrorxstory> my computer wont install updates and wont install aircrack via terminal
[17:38] <Canadaftw> Could I install standard ubunto onto the partion to fix it?
[17:39] <horrorxstory> canadaftw yes you should be able to coy over and completely remove the original partition
[17:39] <horrorxstory> copy*
[17:39] <Canadaftw> awesome.
[17:39] <Canadaftw> I assume the ubuntu win installer will work from crunchbang, correct?
[17:40] <Kihokki> compdoc: Well it takes my focus away from my work... :D for example CSS runs at 60-80 fps
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> Canadaftw, your asking about wubi on crunchbang?
[17:42] <horrorxstory> will someone help me with my issue
[17:42] <horrorxstory> lol
[17:42] <horrorxstory> please lol
[17:42] <Canadaftw> wubi?
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> Canadaftw, This is ubuntu support just trying to understand what the issue is.
[17:43] <geirha> wubi is the "win installer". It installs ubuntu to a file on a windows filesystem instead of on a separate partition
[17:44] <geirha> which has several drawbacks
[17:44] <sangohan> When i close Xchat, the process still runing but if i click on icon on dock, it opens a new instance. How can i display again the windows of this process ? Thanks. (13.10)
[17:45] <m3kk> oh hai? using fresh install 13.10 and i cant enable restricted drivers, it just crashed on software-properties-gtk ? anyone else has this issue?
[17:45] <m3kk> 6320 radeon
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> Canadaftw, Try the bootrepair app to fix the grub boot, save the bootinfo summary. Not sure it will run from crunch bang though, get a lubuntu disc/usb https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:46] <Canadaftw> Alright
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> Canadaftw, seeing the boot info summary is key if this does not work for some.
[17:47] <m3kk> perhaps
[17:47] <bjrohan> Hey everyone  am trying to connect an HTC one to my Ubuntu machine. When I plug it in, it charges, but lsusb and adb devices doesn't list the phone, any suggestions?
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> bjrohan, ubuntu release?
[17:47] <bjrohan> 13.10
[17:47] <xangua> !info xchat-indicator
[17:47] <xangua> sangohan: you need yo install xchat-indicator
[17:47] <bjrohan> I have adb installed
[17:47] <m3kk> oh hai? using fresh install 13.10 and i cant enable restricted drivers, it just crashed on software-properties-gtk ? anyone else has this issue? processor : intel E450 with radeon 6320
[17:47] <Dubu> marlo: This should give you the filename and the last part of your IP, separated by a bar: grep Subnet * |  | sed 's/:Subnet = 192\.168\.[[:digit:]]\+\.\([[:digit:]]\+\).*/|\1/'
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> bjrohan, Hmm, my dna shows right up, you have the desktop showing mounts?
[17:48] <rory> m3kk: Do you know what driver it was trying to install?
[17:48] <sangohan> xangua, it's already install and when i click on this icon, it opens a new instance to
[17:48] <bjrohan> wilee-nilee: I do. WHen I connect my G'Nex, it works fine, just not the HTC One
[17:48] <Dubu> marlo: If you want the subnet also, you must move the '\(' to the left in the regex. (Everything betweeen '\(' and '\)' will be captured and printed with \1.)
[17:48] <CarlFK> when I plug in a usb disk, it normally gets mounted under /media/user/label - but only when I am logged into the gui.  is there a script i can run that will mount it if I am sshed into the box?
[17:49] <m3kk> rory, it crashes while searching for drivers.. but they did show up in livesession thou :)
[17:49] <m3kk> :( *
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> bjrohan, You have the dvelopers options usb bugging on?
[17:49] <geirha> Dubu: Can also be done without grep
[17:49] <killroy1080> hello
[17:50] <Dubu> geirha: How do you get the filename in the line then?
[17:50] <bjrohan> wilee-nilee: Yes I have tried it on and off. I have not restarted the phone since enabling USB Debug
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> bjrohan, should not matter but why not eh
[17:51] <bjrohan> wilee-nilee: rebooting phone now
[17:52] <geirha> Dubu: Ah, the filename is wanted, I see. In that case it can't be done with sed alone. grep|sed or awk, then
[17:52] <logic_prog> am I blind, or are there no hadoop/hbase packages for ubuntu 13.04 ?
[17:53] <bjrohan> wilee-nilee: reboot done, no difference. FWIW it is plugged into a USB 2.0 as well
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> bjrohan, I have noticed my dna will not mount if on sleep.
[17:53] <yeyeman> sometimes when I log in the mouse cursor is invicible
[17:53] <bjrohan> wilee-nilee: what do you mean by sleep?
[17:54] <sangohan> someone told me to try fg command to  get my 'hidden' process go into a foreground window, is it available under 13.10, it not seem ?
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> bjrohan, Hehe seemed confusing screen off.
[17:54] <bjrohan> Aah, the screen is on when plugged into the computer, do you mean turning off the settine completely on the phone
[17:55] <yeyeman> If my computer is suspended and I vake it again, ubuntu completely freezes and I have to restart
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> logic_prog: there are a few stuff missing in some distros because of compatibilities issues: such as haskell-platform is missing form raring as the GHC ship with raring is not compatible with haskell-platform 2012 or haskell-platform 2013
[17:55] <yeyeman> If I type the wrong password at login, ubuntu sometimes completely freezes and I have to restart
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> bjrohan, No, just that I open the phone up, using the password so I see the main screen then plug in.
[17:56] <logic_prog> hitsujiTMO: how does this relate to hbase/hadoop?
[17:56] <bjrohan> wilee-nilee: Gotcha, that is the case with me, screen on, logged in, nada. Is there a setting on HTC One to not turn off screen when plugged in?
[17:56] <Dubu> marlo: Have to go now, good luck.
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> bjrohan, My dna has a options-display-sleep-never off
[17:57] <Canadaftw> Unable to find a proper program to create live usbs for crunchbang.
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> logic_prog: the packages may be missing because of other incompatibilities is what i'm trying to say
[17:57] <Canadaftw> Everything errors.
[17:57] <shrimpy> Canadaftw, have you tried Unetbootin?
[17:57] <Canadaftw> yes.
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> Canadaftw, How did you install lubuntu?
[17:57] <shrimpy> Have you checksummed your crunchbang iso?
[17:58] <Canadaftw> live usb
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> Canadaftw, You can't use it to fix lubuntu? use nicks here.
[17:58] <UbuntuNoobAC> Hi - I am new to Ubuntu using 12.04 for 32 bit... can someone help me with my wireless card
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> !details | UbuntuNoobAC post the card
[17:59] <Canadaftw> what is nicks here?
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> !who | Canadaftw
[17:59] <UbuntuNoobAC> the Wireless card just does not show up at all
[17:59] <shrimpy> Canadaftw: Use md5 check sum to make sure your crunchbang iso is correct: http://linuxforcynics.com/how-to/using-md5-to-verify-downloaded-files
[17:59] <UbuntuNoobAC> i have a Dell Latittude D420
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> UbuntuNoobAC, this a internal run lspci a external lsusb
[18:00] <UbuntuNoobAC> Wilee - this is an internal card
[18:00] <Canadaftw> what would the sudo command be?
[18:00] <Canadaftw> still new to the commands.
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> UbuntuNoobAC, and it does not show with lspci in the terminal?
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> no sudo
[18:01] <UbuntuNoobAC> let me try plz... i am new to Ubuntu and used linux about 7+ yrs ago
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> Canadaftw, sudo for? it is just super user acess
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> access*
[18:02] <Canadaftw> Im still a complete noob sadly.
[18:02] <marlo> Dubu, holy cow, thank!
[18:02] <UbuntuNoobAC> Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> !bcm | UbuntuNoobAC
[18:02] <anonymous> hi
[18:02] <Canadaftw> Just need a live usb creater that is compitable with crunchbag, or somehow able to boot windows and i can take it from there.
[18:03] <UbuntuNoobAC> thanks i will go check
[18:03] <bjrohan> wilee-nilee: bad cable, switched to a diff cable, now it is recognized
[18:04] <shrimpy> Have you downloaded a Crunchbang iso?
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> Canadaftw, If you have a windows disc/usb recovery or install you could reload its boot loader in general, however not being able to at the least show us say the bootinfo summary or identify whether this is a uefi or msdos makes this difficult. YOU might try ##windows for a fix to boot it
[18:05] <Canadaftw> Im gonna try windows recovery.
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> shrimpy, This is ubuntu support.
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> they have crunchbang on a disc, you dop not have the problem isolated
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> do*
[18:06] <shrimpy> wilee-nilee, he is trying to create a Live USB that happens to be crunchbang. He is trying to do it using Ubuntu. I am offering ubuntu support.
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> shrimpy, YOU are wrong it is a lubuntu iso on crunchbang
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> on a crunchbang booted disc
[18:08] <shrimpy> wilee-nilee, if that is the case, I had it backwards and assumed he was using Ubuntu, since this is a Ubuntu support after all.
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> shrimpy, No biggie, just let it go after awhile if no one answers. ;)
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> people will ignore us or not even notice for a variety of reasons
[18:10] <ljunggren> hey how can i change session in ubuntu? i installed unity 2d but i dont know how to change to it?
[18:10] <shrimpy> What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> ljunggren, login, what release, 12.04?
[18:10] <ljunggren> wilee-nilee, 13.10
[18:10] <Guest14596> hi
[18:10] <ljunggren> cant find the option at login wilee-nilee
[18:11] <Guest14596> i'm using realvnc
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> ljunggren, There is no 2d for 13.10
[18:11] <trism> ljunggren: it is an empty package
[18:11] <trism> !info unity-2d saucy
[18:11] <horrorxstory> so my terminal wont update nor will it allow me to download anything
[18:11] <Guest14596> after some amount of time, the connection to the server is closed
[18:11] <ljunggren> trism, thanks
[18:11] <Guest14596> and i have to use the realvnc viewer to connect back
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> horrorxstory  what happens when you try? symptoms? errors?
[18:11] <ljunggren> wilee-nilee, so the option for change session shows up at login when i install another DE?
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> yeah it be empty
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> ljunggren, yes at the gear.
[18:12] <horrorxstory> o errors
[18:12] <horrorxstory> o dlownloads, 0 removable
[18:12] <Guest14596> is there a command to increase or disable the timeout so the session is active?
[18:12] <horrorxstory> on everything
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> horrorxstory, pastebin sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:13] <ljunggren> wilee-nilee, thanks!
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[18:14] <samgabbay> Sam Gabbay In Tha House to Assist You With all your ubuntu issues :_)
[18:15] <samgabbay> Sorry about thaat
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> samgabbay, I heard ubuntu was manufactured in the 7th brane of reality, is this true
[18:15] <ljunggren> wilee-nilee, so there is no way to tune down all 3dblurtransparency? i found turn down blur in gnome tweaks but not much more..
[18:16] <samgabbay> wilee-nilee: i have no clue
[18:16] <ljunggren> My laptop heats upp pretty much , unity dash i pretty slow and i cant enable restricted drivers
[18:16] <samgabbay> lol
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[18:16] <samgabbay> ljunggren: why dont you use xubuntu?
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> ljunggren, I'm not real up on unity is all, I use the shell.
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: if you install unity-tweak-tool you can use that to disable background blur
[18:17] <Guest14596> exit
[18:17] <ljunggren> samgabbay, screen tearing.. cant enable restricted driver on xubuntu 13.10 either
[18:17] <killroy1080> how do i link xpn to a news server?
[18:17] <samgabbay> ljunggren: this is how you fix the lag in ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/wyxMwBNK
[18:17] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, yeah blur but its still slow because transperancy
[18:17] <samgabbay> ljunggren: if anything is unclear tell me i made this
[18:18] <ljunggren> samgabbay, ok
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> ljunggren, I like the jung in your nick.
[18:18] <samgabbay> ljunggren: :D
[18:18] <samgabbay> wilee-nilee: your question before made me laugh but i dont know the answer LOL
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: if you're having issues still after disabling background blur then i'd advise using a different DE
[18:19] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, i was adviced my laptop should handle this De well :
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> samgabbay, it was supposed to, just a little armchair physics, vivia ed witten
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: what gpu do you have?
[18:19] <samgabbay> wilee-nilee: i see i see :)
[18:19] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, Intel dual core E450 with radeon 6320 but i cant enable restricted drivers on 13.10 .. it crashes on searching
[18:19] <samgabbay> hitsujiTMO: he went to ttry what i told him give him a minute
[18:19] <ljunggren> samgabbay, will try this
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> marlo  use grep -l and xargs ... like so : grep -l some_word * | xargs ls -l
[18:20] <samgabbay> ljunggren: if something is unclear please tell me
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: the E range of cpus and their apus are really poor. I would try a DE without graphical acceleration if I were you
[18:21] <ljunggren> samgabbay, "that could fix everything" hah
[18:21] <samgabbay> ljunggren: haha i made it for my pc but i like to give my methods away too :D
[18:22] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO,  wow tought ubuntu would run much much better then win7
[18:22] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, is really that crappy? its almost new.. thought it would blaze throu unity like butter
[18:22] <samgabbay> ljunggren: it does only if you tweak it up :D
[18:22] <ljunggren> i fail
[18:22] <samgabbay> ljunggren: do what i told you it should really fix everything
[18:22] <ljunggren> samgabbay, i will continue your guide now
[18:23] <ljunggren> samgabbay, all the way eh?
[18:23] <samgabbay> hopefully you dont have amd
[18:23] <samgabbay> ljunggren: yessssss thats how i fixed all my laggy issues
[18:23] <ljunggren> samgabbay, radeon 6320 but intel cpu
[18:23] <samgabbay> ljunggren: god help you!
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: it can run just as well if you have propper GPU support ... however ATI/AMD gpu support sucks. RadeonDriver had crap 3d accel, proprietary drivers have crap 2d accel.
[18:23] <ljunggren> samgabbay,  :( im crying myself to sleep
[18:24] <samgabbay> ljunggren: i know how you feel :) but this fixes everyhthing for unity for me it should help for you
[18:24] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, even more i cant even enable restricted drivers in xubuntu/ubuntu 13.10 because software-properties-gtk crashes
[18:24] <ljunggren> so im left with default
[18:24] <samgabbay> NO
[18:24] <samgabbay> ljunggren: jsut follow the guide! then tell us the results it will fix everything just like it did for me
[18:25] <ljunggren> samgabbay, thanks i will
[18:25] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: you can via command line ... but, the 3d acceleration will bring you no good in comparison to what you'll loose in 2d acceleration
[18:25] <samgabbay> ljunggren: good :D
[18:26] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, ok
[18:26] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: btw the E450 is an AMD cpu
[18:27] <samgabbay> i may never buy an amd pc untill itss supported by unity
[18:27] <marianne> hello guys...question... running 12.04 64 bit Chrome is my main browser. Does anyone know why I can't get some streaming services to work. Spcifically Flixster
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: you can see with the output of: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
[18:27] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, it says intel on my sticker?
[18:27] <samgabbay> marianne: how in the world do you stream from flixter? from youtube you mean?
[18:28] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, ok i will check
[18:28] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, "model name" ?
[18:28] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: that will tell you the name of the cpu
[18:28] <marianne> samgabbay: it's the ultravoilet digital thing....you know, when you buy a movie and get the digital version free
[18:29] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, model name	: AMD E-450 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
[18:29] <marianne> samgabbay: youtube works great
[18:29] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, guess sticker on my laptop is a little worn out lol
[18:29] <samgabbay> marianne: whaaa? i really dont get it try using firefox at first if it works clear your chrome cache and cookies,
[18:29] <ljunggren> samgabbay, thank you.. it actually feels snappier
[18:29] <ljunggren> samgabbay, too bad i get screen tearing like xfce now xD
[18:30] <ljunggren> samgabbay, can i just install compiz this way in xfce also? i like the desktop effects
[18:30] <samgabbay> ljunggren: i have no clue you may as well try i believe it is possible
[18:31] <Axlin> Yes, you can use Compiz en Xfce.
[18:31] <Axlin> in*
[18:31] <anand> How do I add power saving mode to Ubuntu laptops? Something like Windows have!
[18:31] <ljunggren> Axlin, but that will put performance and benefits of xfce out the window? right?
[18:31] <samgabbay> Axlin:  Thx for the confirm
[18:31] <samgabbay> ljunggren: i dont believe so i think it should be fineeeee try
[18:32] <ljunggren> samgabbay, perhaps i will , for now im happy with my unity thanks to you1
[18:32] <Axlin> ljunggren: Depends. If you want *absolute* minimum resource usage, then to an extent, yes. But most computers these days will breeze through Compiz. It will still be lighter than Unity.
[18:33] <b1001> test
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: I would advise against using compiz on your laptop. The compiz effects are what's slowing down unity for you
[18:33] <m3kk> Axlin, thank you! i the ONLY thing a little slow in unity for me is DASH
[18:33] <samgabbay> ljunggren: anytime man :D it always workes for meeeee
[18:33] <m3kk> the dealy from pressing Super key to actually get my results
[18:34] <m3kk> delay
[18:34] <m3kk> stupid dash
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> m3kk: disable background blur in unity-tweak-tool
[18:34] <m3kk> hitsujiTMO, its done
[18:34] <m3kk> hitsujiTMO, im thinking you just was right ;)
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> m3kk: still slow? ouch
[18:34] <m3kk> hitsujiTMO, well not AS slow but its not really getting results fast
[18:35] <Axlin> m3kk: Yeah, Dash can be a bit sluggish. It does seem much snappier in 13.10 though, from the ~30 minutes I played with it.
[18:35] <no_gravity> ubuntu.com still downloads ubntu12 instead of ubuntu13 when you have javascript disabled. i reported that months ago...
[18:35] <m3kk> Axlin, you changed DE?
[18:35] <samgabbay> haha im so amazing :D
[18:35] <tgm4883> no_gravity, bug number?
[18:36] <Axlin> m3kk: I've been on KDE for around 2 1/2 years, but considering Xfce or Openbox, so I've been playing around with them a lot.
[18:36] <no_gravity> tgm4883: no idea. im not much into that stuff.
[18:36] <tgm4883> no_gravity, well if you reported it, it should be listed under your account. What is your LP name?
[18:37] <no_gravity> tgm4883: i either reported it here and somebody did it, or i created a throwaway account i guess
[18:37] <tgm4883> no_gravity, thats.... helpful
[18:38] <no_gravity> tgm4883: you can try for yourself. turn off js, go to ubuntu.com and try to download it.
[18:39] <tgm4883> no_gravity, you misunderstand me, I believe you that it is an issue, I'm just trying to find the bug number so I can A) see if it's marked against the correct project, and B) mark it "me too"
[18:39] <no_gravity> tgm4883: ok
[18:39] <marianne> samgabbay: that didn't work, still not loading the media
[18:39] <tgm4883> no_gravity, it appears that it is bug 1193761
[18:39] <marianne> samgabbay: thank s for the suggestion
[18:40] <samgabbay> marianne: did it work?
[18:40] <m3kk> Axlin, yeah was trying KDe for the first time yesterday.. it found it overclottered with settings all over the place
[18:41] <shrimpy> KDE can be obnoxious, but I guess its a matter of opinion
[18:41] <no_gravity> tgm4883: yes
[18:41] <marianne> samgabbay: nope, pahe opens, I select my movie and then it just doesn't load... I'm wondering if there is a plugin I'm missing
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> no_gravity  tgm4883 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/1193761
[18:42] <samgabbay> marianne: put you issue on ask ubuntu i think it could help alittle
[18:42] <marianne> samgabbay: thanks, going to search around a bit and see if I can find anything about it.
[18:43] <samgabbay> marianne: alright sounds good if you have any other issues let us know :)
[18:43] <marianne> samgabbay: you guys are great... and have helped me in the past with tons of things...
[18:44] <samgabbay> marianne: haha :) thankss :)))) i havent been here long enough but i try when i can :)
[18:45] <nicole2> hi my name is nicole and my bar thingy (the one thats usually on the bottom that has my windows and stuff) has moved to the left side and i'm having no luck in moving it back down to the bottom
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> nicole2, Ah the unity desktop it can't be moved.
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> nicole2, Not xubuntu right or another desktop?
[18:47] <paulus68_1> what is the best program to edit photo's
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> nicole2: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[18:48] <reisio> paulus68_1: edit them in what way
[18:48] <nicole2> wilee-nilee, it used to be on the bottom but then my cat did something and its on the left now and i think its gnom
[18:48] <samgabbay> well people i gotta get back to work in school See YA :D
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> nicole2, What ubuntu release?
[18:49] <paulus68_1> reisio: at this point just want to reduce them so that I can mail them without sending a mail of 36 mb :d
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> nicole2: can you paste the output from the terminal of: cat /etc/issue
[18:49] <reisio> paulus68_1: oh, use imagemagick for that
[18:49] <Kamaris> does anyone here use x11vnc and have they noticed an issue with their capslock spontaneously locking on under some circumstance? it happens pretty frequently, but i can't figure out what i'm doing to cause it
[18:49] <paulus68_1> reisio: ok thanks
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> nicole2, lsb_release -a  will tell you the release
[18:50] <Kamaris> FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S ON RIGHT NOW :/ and i have to hold shift to keep it off
[18:50] <reisio> paulus68_1: cp -r images/ thumbnails/ && mogrify -resize 1024 thumbnails/*
[18:50] <reisio> well, not thumbnails, but y'know
[18:50] <reisio> smaller/
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> Kamaris, what's that sonny let me turn don my hearing aid.
[18:50] <paulus68_1> reisio: thnks
[18:50] <reisio> paulus68_1: or just get some online hosting
[18:50] <nicole2> wilee-nilee i think its 11
[18:51] <nicole2> wait no its 12
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> nicole2, 10.04 the server is still supported 12.04 and up are as well, does this make sense?
[18:51] <niuniomartinez> Hello. After upgrading Ubuntu from 13.04 to 13.10 there are an old Java VM that I can't uninstall, and it interferes with the latest Java. How can I uninstall it?
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> nicole2, 12.04 is unity, if the ubuntu desktop, the panel would be on the left.
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> nicole2: can you open the terminal and type: cat /etc/issue          and then please paste the output here
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> and a top one
[18:52] <Kamaris> and now it's off :/ but i can't think of a definitive key combo i performed to turn it off
[18:52] <Kamaris> askldfja;lskfdj
[18:52] <korrosion> What ping monitors are available for ubuntu? I see so many. What's good? I just need to ping a bunch of my servers and notify me if it doesn't get a reply
[18:53] <nicole2> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> nicole2, If this is the ubuntu desktop, the panel would not have been on the bottom, there was a hack earlier for this, however not for 12.04
[18:55] <niuniomartinez> After upgrading from 13.03 to 13.10 I've found a Java VM that I can't uninstal using APT, but it interferes with latest Java. How can I uninstall it?
[18:55] <rory> niuniomartinez: It depends how you installed it originally
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> niuniomartinez, Was this a ppa install?
[18:56] <hitsujiTMO> nicole2: sweet: now can you tell us what desktop environment you are using from looking at this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available    just comare the images to what you have on your desktop
[18:56] <niuniomartinez> rory: I'm not sure.  I think it was the Oracle's one. Or it says Minecraft.
[18:57] <niuniomartinez> wilee-nilee: Wich ppa?
[18:57] <evilytwisted> can i install ubuntu for phone on kyocera echo? http://www.echobykyocera.com/
[18:57] <evilytwisted> or on galaxys3?
[18:57] <acovrig> My graphics *'d themselves, compiz works OK w/onboard graphics, how can I backup my compiz settings and attempt a clean compiz config?
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> niuniomartinez, Thats what I would like to know look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[18:59] <yeyeman> btsync creates 2 of the panel indicators every time, but as far as I can tell only 1 instance of the program is running
[18:59] <yeyeman> how can I fix?
[19:00] <niuniomartinez> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6331666/
[19:01] <niuniomartinez> wilee-nilee: May be I should remove all that precise and raring stuff, shouldn't I?
[19:01] <snikker> is possble to rescue a sistem using ubuntu netboot live cd?
[19:03] <no_gravity> Im running Debian 7 and im about to try Ubuntu 13 in VirtualBox inside Debian. How much % of native speed will i get out of this?
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> yeyeman  what's btsync?
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> yeyeman  bluetooth?
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> no_gravity: that's an impossible to answer question too many factors that can effect the performance
[19:04] <no_gravity> hitsujiTMO: rather 90% or rather 10%?
[19:05] <yeyeman> MonkeyDust: its bittorent sync
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> no_gravity: as I said, it's impossible to say. depends on too many things like what processor ypu have, how you set up the vm, what else you have running. what de you are using and whta de you install on ubuntu. if you want an idea of the actual speed, use a live cd
[19:06] <CatKiller> no_gravity: With virtualization in CPU and a recent CPU that supports all the fancy Virtualization extensions
[19:06] <CatKiller> it's more like 90%
[19:06] <CatKiller> upwards
[19:06] <no_gravity> CatKiller: i dunno. i use a lenovo X301.
[19:07] <CatKiller> I think the best answer is:
[19:07] <CatKiller> "it'll be horrible, or it'll be nearly as good"
[19:07] <CatKiller> if it's horrible either virtualbox is not configured or not using the virtual CPU extensions
[19:07] <CatKiller> or you don't have them on your hardware
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> yeyeman  ubuntu has Deluge and Transmission, why use something else?
[19:08] <CatKiller> As people suggested just now you should try
[19:08] <hitsujiTMO> no_gravity: just create a live distro on usb from the iso using netbootin
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge | niuniomartinez the java one anyway.
[19:08] <yeyeman> MonkeyDust: they aren't the same kind of program
[19:08] <no_gravity> wow, its *really* slow.
[19:08] <no_gravity> like unbelievable slow.
[19:08] <CatKiller> see!
[19:08] <CatKiller> Predicted that!
[19:09] <CatKiller> :p
[19:09] <CatKiller> Most likely your CPU doesn't support virtualization
[19:09] <niuniomartinez> wilee-nilee: Thanks. Reading.
[19:09] <CatKiller> that's provided you have *real* memory allocated to the VM
[19:09] <korrosion> What ping monitors are available for ubuntu? I see so many. What's good? I just need to ping a bunch of my servers and notify me if it doesn't get a reply
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> niuniomartinez, One of the keys is making sure any ppa has releases for your install.
[19:09] <DrFoo> Anyone know how to have an iphone look for music on an smb share instead of itunes?
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> you an check their webpages
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> can*
[19:10] <CatKiller> korrosion: Sounds like a crude method of SNMP
[19:10] <CatKiller> DrFoo: How is that a #ubuntu question?
[19:11] <korrosion> CatKiller: Sort of. We just need to keep an eye on our servers connectivity
[19:11] <no_gravity> still waiting for firefox to start.... how long will that take.. 10 minutes?
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> korrosion  tip: there's also #ubuntu-server
[19:11] <CatKiller> korrosion: If you don't want to use snmp not sure
[19:12] <DrFoo> CatKiller because there is no itunes for linux and most of the previous libraries for ubuntu no longer work to sync. It affects the ubuntu community, and is fairly common thing to want.
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> no_gravity, ubuntu is a bit chunky in a vm, a lighter desktop might help.
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> takes a gig of ram in a partition alone basically
[19:13] <niuniomartinez> wilee-nilee: Thankyou. I think I have it fixed now. :D
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> niuniomartinez, Cool, enjoy.
[19:14] <CatKiller> DrFoo: But what could Ubuntu possibly do since you want the *iPhone* to discover music on a SMB share
[19:14] <no_gravity> wilee-nilee: maybe. im too lazy to experiment on for today.
[19:15] <CatKiller> DrFoo: Anyways, google's first hit: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1503989
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> DrFoo: you will have to contact apple to ask them to rewite iOS such that it doesn't require their proprietary software
[19:15] <korrosion> MonkeyDust: CatKiller I just need something simple for my desktop
[19:15] <CatKiller> DrFoo: Seems like a good few music players exist on iOS to connect to SMB share
[19:15] <CatKiller> DrFoo: Which is handy because I was wondering myself
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> no_gravity, heh, in the last amount of letters typed you could have installed another de.
[19:15] <goneGone-theForm> in 13.10 I keep getting prompted for wifi password and username, before I log in.  So i cancel it and log in and then it auto-connects with no prompt like it should.  How do i stop it from prompting me before i login?
[19:15] <CatKiller> korrosion: How about "Smokeping"?
[19:16] <CatKiller> korrosion: Again this is a google hit but it seems popular
[19:16] <korrosion> CatKiller: I'll look into it
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> !info smokeping
[19:16] <DrFoo> CatKiller: point #1: I agree I don't want ubuntu to do anything... I'm just looking for someone who may be able to help and can PM or take to another irc.
[19:16] <DrFoo> HitsujiTMO: bummer... should have gotten andriod.
[19:17] <CatKiller> DrFoo: Sure, gave you the answer
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> goneGone-theForm, strange, more than one de?
[19:18] <acovrig> Any ideas why 'Ubuntu' doesn't work, but 'Ubuntu 2D' woks?
[19:18] <goneGone-theForm> wilee-nilee, used to have gnome and others but purged them all, only unity (ubuntu-default) the option to select others is not there at the unity log in screen.
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> goneGone-theForm, purged how?
[19:18] <goneGone-theForm> wilee-nilee, i have the wifi connection ticked for "Available to all users"
[19:19] <goneGone-theForm> wilee-nilee, "sudo apt-get purge gnome-shell*"
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> goneGone-theForm, That tick is most important in the dektop on install.
[19:19] <CatKiller> DrFoo: I personally use OPlayer for videos and it works with SMB, but it's also a music player
[19:19] <xll11> erm
[19:19] <xll11> why my 'su' password does not work?
[19:19] <xll11> shouldnt it be the same as the password for sudo
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> goneGone-theForm, was this a gnome only install originally?
[19:19] <goneGone-theForm> wilee-nilee, what's the command to see if i have de's currently installed other than unity. like... list all de's?
[19:20] <goneGone-theForm> wilee-nilee, know i installed from the a regular ubuntu13.10 iso, so it only had unity by default, i added on and removed gnome and others later
[19:20] <xll11> sudo: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dfist-packages/django/bin/django-admin.py: command not found
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> goneGone-theForm, NOt sure, but there is a website psychocats that has meta lists of de's for full removal on some releases.
[19:20] <CatKiller> DrFoo: I also used FlacPlayer before. And it reads flac!
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> acovrig: what do you mean by "ubuntu 2d" ?  ... do you mean unity 2d?
[19:21] <DrFoo> CatKiller: nice, I'm moving everything to flac
[19:21] <DrFoo> CatKiller: does it read smb share, or just local filesystem?
[19:21] <CatKiller> DrFoo: FlacPlayer can connect to SSH files
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> I doubt 13.10 is there though yet, goneGone-theForm you have to be careful installing and removing thise meta packages to get them all.
[19:21] <acovrig> hitsujiTMO: I guess, 'http://askubuntu.com/questions/72978/what-could-cause-normal-ubuntu-not-to-work-but-ubuntu-2d-to-work-11-10' seems to be my problem
[19:21] <CatKiller> SSHFS
[19:21] <CatKiller> sftp sorry
[19:21] <CatKiller> works with Ubuntu or most NASs
[19:21] <CatKiller> *NASes
[19:22] <DrFoo> CatKiller: use openvpn connect and then it appears as a LAN and you don't need ssh
[19:22] <hitsujiTMO> acovrig: unity requires 3d acceleration (runs on compiz). unity-2d does not use the 3d accel.
[19:22] <CatKiller> xll11: You wrote "dfist" instead of "dist"
[19:22] <offensive-securi> hi all
[19:22] <xll11> i wrote the path by hand, its on my ubuntu comp, windows here
[19:22] <acovrig> hitsujiTMO: I know, but I have no display in 3d, and can't figure out why :(
[19:22] <hitsujiTMO> acovrig: you most like do not have a grpahics card sufficient to run 3d acceleration
[19:22] <xll11> the path si correct
[19:22] <xll11> (Was just a mispelling :p)
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> goneGone-theForm, Here is the website, you can try the lists and remove what is not seen from a list say in a gedit and try till you get everything, that is a bit hackneyed is all.
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> acovrig: what graphics chipset do you have?
[19:23] <acovrig> hitsujiTMO: no, it worked just fine until 1hr ago, then quit and IDK why
[19:23] <acovrig> hitsujiTMO: GTX 460 SE
[19:23] <CatKiller> xll11: What are the permissions of /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dfist-packages/django/bin/django-admin.py
[19:23] <CatKiller> xll11: Also did you say Windows?
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> acovrig: did you have any updates before it stopped working?
[19:24] <CatKiller> xll11: nevermind. Anyways also what is the first line of that script?
[19:24] <goneGone-theForm> wilee-nilee, alright thank you.
[19:24] <acovrig> hitsujiTMO: not sure, but probably; I think it updated compiz, and I have no idea how to downgrade or something to get it working...
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> goneGone-theForm, Generally If I install something I might want to remove I use the terminal and save the install packages, just for these sort of situations.
[19:25] <acovrig> hitsujiTMO: I am running 12.04 LTS, I wonder if it would be a good idea to update to 13.04 or 13.10 or if that would just turn out to be a nightmare...
[19:25] <offensive-securi> Russian lingual channel? ubuntu
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> goneGone-theForm, Theoretically you might be able to reinstall save the list and run a purge on it, however with these lists watch what is removed overall
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> !ru
[19:28] <levo> what's the best free  replacement for Matlab?
[19:28] <offensive-securi> wilee-nilee Thanks!
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:29] <acovrig> *sigh* flakey wifi :/
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> acovrig, YOu can reset unity and compiz
[19:29] <acovrig> wilee-nilee: how, and can I backup compiz settings first?
[19:30] <xll11> CatKiller problem solved, used something else ^^
[19:30] <xll11> Thanks anyhow
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> acovrig, been awile since I used unity, but in the config manager is a backup
[19:30] <CatKiller> ok
[19:31] <CatKiller> xll11: Anyways your issue was either file not executable or missing #!/usr/bin/python hashbang
[19:31] <goneGone-theForm> wilee-nilee, hmm that sounds like it could work, i had the two gnome-flashbacks, the two new gnome3.8 ones and an xfce low usage one installed... shouldn't be hard to find.  where would the files for an installed de be?  would you reccommend deleting those?
[19:31] <acovrig> wilee-nilee: that would help if I could get to the config manager, but I have no graphical display, the card display is black, but I can get to CTRL+ALT+F2 with onboard...
[19:32] <BuFF> ubottu: pasol naxui atsiusda ruskij celavek, zdes nevmiesta po ru govarit!
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> goneGone-theForm, 3.8 was a ppa? I would remove the whole meta myself, if you reinstall any be sure to tick the auto login in its wifi just tobe be safe in case you do not get every package.
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> acovrig, This a graphic card driver issue, or tweaking, can you nomodeset boot?
[19:34] <acovrig> wilee-nilee: where does that go, splash area of grub?
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> goneGone-theForm, I'm not sure besides the ubuntu site listing packages are lists fpr 13.10.
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | acovrig
[19:35] <yeyeman> I'm trying to do this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/96865/power-saving-with-free-radeon-ati-driver but it gives the error "bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument"
[19:35] <goneGone-theForm> wilee-nilee,  hm how do i remove metas?  finding the lists on that site? ...or no
[19:35] <yeyeman> what to do???
[19:35] <acovrig> if I boot in the 3D mode, all I get is the background with a cursor, yet the login window shows up just fine on this display...
[19:36] <acovrig> because lightdm shows up just fine, I would doubt it's a GPU driver issue...
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> goneGone-theForm, That site I sent you has ones for earlier releases I have not looked close for any 13.10, and it is usually limited to the 4 or so main de's
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> might be a 13.10 list somewhere, maybe
[19:37] <acovrig> wilee-nilee: interesting, after a few minutes, gnome-terminal opens (startup item), yet I don't have the unity bar (yet).
[19:37] <goneGone-theForm> wilee-nilee, hm yeah found stuff for 13.04 but still nothing to do with Gnome?  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/tag/pure-ubuntu/
[19:38] <MeTRoPoL> Selan
[19:38] <MeTRoPoL> Selam
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> goneGone-theForm, There is probably an easier way, if you found the wifi stuff for the other desktops, I'm assuming that is the issue here.
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> be very careful though don;t remove the wifi altogether if thats' all you have goneGone-theForm
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> acovrig, Hard to really tell what the issues are, graphics are not really a strong area for me, and there is missing info, such as what led you to this conundrum.
[19:40] <cellardoor> Can anyone tell me why when I try to play DVD's I get a lot of "ac-tex damaged at XXX" errors? I have libdvdread and libdvdcss installed and am not a noob :)
[19:40] <jhutchins_wk> cellardoor: damaged disks or drm.
[19:41] <cellardoor> jhutchins_wk, but this is the new star trek.... I am actually not able to watch it? :( what the heck
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> cellardoor, Some of had problems with the late dvd's, or so they say.
[19:42] <cellardoor> wilee-nilee, just put Downfall in and yep sure enough...
[19:42] <cellardoor> That's disgraceful
[19:42] <acovrig> wilee-nilee: I shutdown, took out a PCI firewire and put in a PCI audio card, the booted and am in my current state...  I tried removing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replacing it with /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe and didn't get anything with either...
[19:42] <goneGone-theForm> wilee-nilee,  would re-installing via my ubuntu usb, the option that doesn't delete old files fix this?
[19:42] <HisaoNakai> There's a software I'm trying to install from it's site. it gives an MDA5 hash and a GPG .sig file in the download section. The hash check went fine but how do I verify it with the .sig file? I used gpg --verify file.sig but it says 'public key not found', and the site doesn't mention a public key anywhere...ideas?
[19:43] <HisaoNakai>                                        
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> goneGone-theForm, Did not know there was that option and not sure.
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> goneGone-theForm, You have a separate home you mean?
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> HisaoNakai, probably is not one, can you install without it, and should you?
[19:47] <kaklaa> hello everyone, i enable hibernate, it saves the session , it is confirmed from    /var/log/pm-suspend.log  but it is not working, i haven't seen any delay , in resuming, and no message is being displayed for resume.
[19:47] <HisaoNakai> wilee-nilee: Ah :s
[19:47] <goneGone-theForm> wilee-nilee, yes
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> cellardoor, It's not that the big providers are serving linux you know, most things needed are reversed engineered or ported, linux is a server or a kernel in the end.
[19:47] <kaklaa> I want my system to resume faster, sleep is an option but i want hibernate,
[19:48] <HisaoNakai> wilee-nilee: The software in question is moc, I'm trying the devel version. http://moc.daper.net/download Any clues? o.o
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> goneGone-theForm, You might be fine with a reinstall of the the base, check the .config and .local in mome is all.
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> home*
[19:49] <goneGone-theForm> wilee-nilee, okay gonna try it thanks man.
[19:49] <kaklaa> what kind of problem it can be, while using windows i can resume  from hibernate within 15-20 seconds, while here it is taking time equal to restart 45 seconds
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> HisaoNakai, I see it in the 13.10 repos.
[19:50] <kaklaa> i am using ubuntu 12.04 lts
[19:50] <HisaoNakai> wilee-nilee: 12.04 lol
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> HisaoNakai, Not there?
[19:51] <HisaoNakai> wilee-nilee: Nope, we have the one just before that.
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> HisaoNakai, Does it really matter? you can install stuff without a sig usually.
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> HisaoNakai, Is there a ppa maybe?
[19:53] <HisaoNakai> wilee-nilee: No, they don't provide a PPA. I suppose I can, but I was just curious how one verifies in such situations (if it is actually possible)
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> kaklaa, windows has a hybrid hibernate in uefi, ubuntu does not.
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> HisaoNakai, You might ask them, If you download from gthem and the sum is correct your okay I would think.
[19:54] <kaklaa> it does not uefi, that's why it takes lot of time to boot?
[19:54] <sidhom> hi
[19:54] <sidhom> I'm no newbie here
[19:54] <kaklaa> why it is better than Windows , except virus free?
[19:55] <ctrlbyte> hi sidhom
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> kaklaa, hibernate has always been as long as a boot on my machines in ubuntu here.
[19:55] <kaklaa> lot of configurations need to be done, which takes time greater than installing drivers and softwares
[19:55] <Underbyte> question -- the ubuntu server cloud edition image is named exactly the same as the normal ubuntu server iso, is there a difference between the two?
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> kaklaa, the uefi hibernate is a pseudo, it is a sleep to some extent, you would have to ask the windows guys really.
[19:56] <ctrlbyte> kaklaa, virus free? Hmmmm not sure that statement is exactly true, Linux has come a long way in the last six years, not as much manual tweaking as you might imagine
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> kaklaa, You seem unhappy, are you sure this OS is for you, lol.
[19:57] <kaklaa> some small annoying bugs, which really need to take care , like wifi doesn't work BROADCOM most of time, bluetooth Headsets, and many more simply annoying bugs
[19:57] <kaklaa> nautilus hangs even on small directories
[19:58] <kaklaa> then many context menu, why ubuntu doesn't ship them by default
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> funny in 7 years of use I can't remember any bug I have had
[19:58] <ctrlbyte> kaklaa, I always try and use Intel  hardware for greyer compatibility
[19:58] <ctrlbyte> greater*
[19:59] <kaklaa> I have integrated Intel graphics in my laptop, and they are okay
[20:00] <kaklaa> i cannot say laptop manufacturer to provide me Intel WIFI instead, hahaha
[20:00] <kaklaa> Intel LAPTOPs are much costly than other OEM in my country
[20:00] <kaklaa> anyway, is there any way to quick boot system
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> kaklaa, a ssd works nicely
[20:01] <kaklaa> i have enabled only some services, i used bum, disabled a few, like timidity etc
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> kaklaa, I saw that boot stuff earlier 1 min is not bad with a regular HD.
[20:01] <kaklaa> wilee-nilee: No, this is not a option for me, this is hardware upgrade
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> kaklaa, sounds OCD to be honest.
[20:02] <bekks> kaklaa: The only way to fasten that up is using faster hardware.
[20:02] <kaklaa> wilee-nilee: OCD means?
[20:03] <kaklaa> bekks: but same hardware works fast on windows
[20:03] <kaklaa> wifi works fast
[20:03] <kaklaa> file copying works fast
[20:03] <bekks> kaklaa: And windows is out of interest and scope when using Ubuntu.
[20:03] <kaklaa> write speed specially
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> mine is about 40 seconds to the desktop with a ssd and a 5 year ols dualcore
[20:04] <Norith> Hello, I'm having an issue with approx, and I was hoping someone could help.  I set approx up this morning, everything worked perfectly for a while.  come back after lunch, and I keep getting 500 internal server errors when I try to access the cached repository at <server>:<port>/ubuntu/  I don't see anything in the logs that would help me, and googling for sys_error("is a directory") (the specific 500 error I'm getting) is not very helpful
[20:04] <kaklaa> frequent wifi disconnection problems, even in 1 metre range of wireless router :(
[20:04] <bekks> Hmm, I think I'm spending more time to let the BIOS pass than waiting for Ubuntu to finalize booting.
[20:04] <kaklaa> sorry to say but these things should be improved
[20:05] <bekks> kaklaa: Being too close at the router heavily impacts the connection.
[20:05] <Calinou> OCD = Obsessional Compulsive Disorder
[20:05] <kaklaa> there should be native support for daily use software and specially for internet,
[20:05] <Calinou> buy proper wifi chips
[20:06] <Calinou> and learn how to use them
[20:06] <kaklaa> like modems, wireless
[20:06] <kaklaa> how to send USSD codes , is there any other GUI application than, GSM-USSD, Modem mnanger GUI and prepaid manager
[20:07] <kaklaa> i tried all these and none of them worked for me
[20:07] <bekks> kaklaa: Blame it on the manufacturers to not write opensource drivers but letting people reengineer them.
[20:07] <bekks> Whats an USSD code?
[20:07] <kaklaa> bekks: u r right, by the way, but only huawei seems to provide support for linux
[20:08] <bekks> kaklaa: Which is entirely wrong. Realtek, Broadcom, Intel, Atheros, etc...
[20:08] <Calinou> broadcom on linux is usually quite terrible
[20:09] <Daekdroom> I'm using 13.10 and whenever I download a .rar file with Firefox, it doesn't display File roller under my "Open with:" choices. How do I make it show up there?
[20:09] <kaklaa> Broadcom wireless, STA driver installed not worked , binary installed, not worked, brcmacs installed worked but with poor speed
[20:09] <kaklaa> bluetooth worked out of box
[20:09] <Calinou> install unrar, use terminal, "unrar filename"
[20:09] <bekks> Calinou: Which is not true. For 8 years now, Broadcom chipsets work out of the box here.
[20:09] <kaklaa> Headset profile not worked
[20:09] <Daekdroom> Calinou, you clearly haven't got the point.
[20:09] <Calinou> bekks: why do I still see screenshots with broadcom drivers in proprietary drivers menu then?
[20:09] <Daekdroom> I know how to extract a rar file.
[20:09] <kaklaa> sending and receiving files worked
[20:09] <bekks> kaklaa: "not worked" is a pretty useless, while generic, statement.
[20:10] <Daekdroom> But I download these small rar files often and I need a faster way to do it.
[20:10] <bekks> Calinou: Because you _may_ want to use them. As you _may_ want to use nvidia instead of nv, or the opensource radeon driver, or or or
[20:10] <Calinou> yes, but the other proprietary drivers are already in the kernel, such as intel
[20:10] <kaklaa> countless hours on askubuntu, ubuntugeek and google
[20:10] <Daekdroom> Calinou, Intel isn't a proprietary driver.
[20:11] <Calinou> intel wifi is proprietary
[20:11] <bekks> Calinou: There is no single proprietary driver which is in the kernel.
[20:11] <bekks> Calinou: It isnt.
[20:11] <Calinou> there are tons of proprietary firmware in the linux kernel
[20:11] <DjAngo23> Hallo everyone. I locked mysel out of my router: I can't assign IP Adresses from my router but i changed my NAS to static IP, and i can only configure my NAS via the webinterface. How can I access my NAS to reset this option?
[20:11] <bekks> Calinou: firmware are not drivers.
[20:11] <Calinou> it's only redistributable
[20:11] <bekks> Calinou: firmware is firmware - drivers are drivers. Some drivers do use firmware.
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> DjAngo23, reset it if locked out and start over.
[20:12] <Daekdroom> These files may be installed by default, but they're in linux-firmware-nonfree package.
[20:12] <MrMonkey31> sorry, when I do checkinstall, on a program I'd compiled, can I rename my build directory first, or will that like, bust up everything?
[20:12] <Daekdroom> Whatever code is in the kernel is opensource, however.
[20:12] <bekks> Daekdroom: full ack
[20:12] <b1001> DjAngo23: reset and connect with default ip in a closed network without your router..
[20:13] <kaklaa> how to get high write speed to NTFS file system, i am getting about 13-14 while my HDD is of 7200 rpm  and on windows it gives me about 35-40 Mb
[20:13] <bekks> kaklaa: By forcing microsoft to finally improve that filesystem and put it under opensource license to enable people to write kernel drivers instead of userland drivers.
[20:13] <DjAngo23> wilee-nilee and b1001: That's what i thought, but i I was hopping for another solution
[20:14] <XLV> kaklaa using linux kernel's ntfs support or ntfs-3g?
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> you want access to the router no matter what
[20:14] <kaklaa> i couldn't format all my NTFS partitions to ext4 because
[20:14] <kaklaa> i need windows for some programs like office 13 etc
[20:14] <kaklaa> XLV: YES, IT IS INSTALLED
[20:14] <kaklaa> don't know it is updated or not, but there is no update in update manager for the same
[20:14] <Daekdroom>  Linux kernel support for ntfs doesn't support writing, anyway.
[20:14] <kaklaa> NTFS-3G
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> or heh a closed sytem
[20:15] <bekks> kaklaa: Still, blame it on micrisift that linux users arent able to use kernel drivers for NTFS.
[20:15] <OerHeks> kaklaa, force big writes > http://askubuntu.com/a/255965 and speed should go up
[20:15] <XLV> Daekdroom you can force writing too
[20:15] <kaklaa> NTF 3G is installed
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> "micrisift" that's a new one
[20:15] <OerHeks> * between ntfs-ntfs
[20:15] <kaklaa> let me check, between the same
[20:17] <Cuppa_coffee> ok, hi all. I have mounted a .iso file and it shows up in nautilus under devices. Unmounting doesn't remove the iso from the list. "remove" is greyed out. How do I remove this item?
[20:17] <rahules> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 64bit on a dell inspiron 14r laptop. Recently, whenever I open the ubuntu software center, it closes within 2 seconds of opening, if not less. I can't actually remember the ppa i've added last, but it was an icon theme. I have no idea why this is happening. Please help.
[20:18] <Richhh> i tried to dual boot install ubuntu/lubuntu, got I/O errors (tried reburning, same deal) now booted GParted (with some errors) and I can't partition the main ntfs partition ('the cause might be a missing software package ... eg ntfsprogs / ntfs-3g')
[20:18] <Richhh> what to do?
[20:18] <bekks> Richhh: then install ntfs-3g
[20:19] <Richhh> ok
[20:19] <kaklaa> OerHeks: 16-18 MB/s
[20:19] <kaklaa> between two NTFS partitions on the same drive
[20:19] <bgardner> rahules: Check /var/log/apt/history.log for what you installed last and see ppa-purge about removing anything non-standard you added.
[20:19] <Jpmh> I have a system that was donated to our non-proft.  A Dell laptop, it HAD Windoze XP on it and I intend to upgrade it to Ubuntu 12.04.3 - Donor was adamant that everything had to be cleared, so  with him there I booted to a live usb stick and used gparted to delete partitions and then create a new partition table -  all appeared OK. - when I try and install however I get a message ubi-partman fail
[20:19] <Jpmh> ed with exit code 10 - what does this mean and how do I proceed?
[20:20] <bekks> kaklaa: Thats because ntfs-3g is a userland driver.
[20:20] <kaklaa> hmm,  tell me how to use this long-WRITE
[20:20] <kaklaa> sorry big_writes
[20:21] <bekks> kaklaa: You've been given a link to it.
[20:21] <rahules> bgardner: thanks. let me check now
[20:22] <rahules> bgardner: cannot find any conflicting packages
[20:23] <kaklaa> it is saying that no such file or directory, failed to found mount point /media/tmp
[20:23] <kaklaa> what should be there in place of temp
[20:24] <kaklaa> sudo mount -o big_writes /dev/sde1 /media/tmp
[20:24] <OerHeks>  big_writes This option prevents fuse from splitting write buffers  into  4K chunks,  enabling  big  write buffers to be transferred from the application in a single step (up to some system limit, generally128K bytes).
[20:24] <kaklaa> i used sda2 instead of sde1
[20:24] <designbybeck> Greetings all, I have a HP small laptop, I'm trying to capture the full screen with Kazam, but the HP laptop has an odd resolution. I want 720x1280, But the DIsplay settings are somethink like 720x1300
[20:24] <OerHeks> kaklaa, sure, you need to translate that example to your own situation
[20:25] <OerHeks> and neet reboot
[20:25] <bgardner> rahules: Does this give any errors?:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:25] <kaklaa> but what to use in place of /tmp
[20:25] <designbybeck> Is there a way to force the Display setting to something else?? In kazam I can select by drawing out an area
[20:25] <designbybeck> that is just a pain
[20:25] <rahules> bgardner: no, I did an update a few minutes ago
[20:25] <kaklaa> it is displaying error, there is no mount/media/tmp
[20:26] <bgardner> rahules: But software center crashes out?
[20:26] <rahules> yes bgardner
[20:26] <kaklaa> sudo mount -o big_writes /dev/sde1 /media/tmp
[20:26] <kaklaa> fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/
[20:26] <marianne_> hey guy... just wanted to let anyone who was on here earlier that I fixed my issue playing streaming movies on Flixster... it was a known issue and i just needed to install the correct files
[20:26] <mrpl> how to limit a "guest" account's privledges , no access to other local partitions, in lubuntu please
[20:27] <kaklaa> this was the output: : failed to access mountpoint /media/tmp: No such file or directory
[20:27] <OerHeks> kaklaa did you make a folder in /media/ ?
[20:27] <bgardner> rahules: Run software-center from the command line and see if you get any better feedback.
[20:27] <kaklaa> no
[20:27] <kaklaa> OerHeks
[20:27] <kaklaa> No
[20:28] <Cuppa_coffee> sorry about last question. Solved with a reboot
[20:28] <jeffrey_f> Log out, it "freezes" with just the background.  Found  ~/.Xauthority may be the culprit.  Confirm?
[20:28] <kaklaa> this time command worked
[20:29] <OerHeks> kaklaa, so you need " sudo mkdir /media/tmp " and then make sure that ntfs is unmounted before you do that example
[20:29] <shrimpy> Lots of LightDM .Xauthority  problems lately. What is going on?
[20:29] <kaklaa> now let me check the speed of  copying
[20:29] <kaklaa> OerHeks: yes, i unmounted them
[20:29] <jeffrey_f> Also, just upgraded to 13.10
[20:30] <nightmare365> hi guys i want to try animating with angular is there a bunch of ready transitions i can get from somewhere
[20:31] <mrpl> Hi, I created my own guest account in lubuntu because the basic guest account has no persistence. But I dont want any access available to any files other than the guest home directory. I need some assistance please
[20:31] <kaklaa> OerHeks: no more improvement in the speed
[20:31] <kaklaa> even below
[20:32] <jeffrey_f> Just upgraded to 13.10, now when I Log out, it "freezes" with just the background.  Found  ~/.Xauthority may be the culprit.  Confirm?
[20:33] <rahules> bgardner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6332089/ this is what i get
[20:33] <spyke581> Anybody know if the Xubuntu live insstall cd is UEFI compatible?
[20:35] <MrMonkey31> does anybody here know about using checkinstall to stick compiled code into installable package files?
[20:35] <bgardner> rahules: Working on it, one moment.
[20:35] <rahules> bgardner: thanks
[20:37] <kaklaa> Anyway, thanks to the community, i need to go
[20:37] <kaklaa> i will try someday else
[20:37] <kaklaa> Hopefully , Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will do that
[20:37] <bekks> kaklaa: It wont. I promise.
[20:38] <GuestGuest> when i run 'sudo pulseaudio -k' or 'pulseaudio -k' i get the following error: how can i fix? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6332060/
[20:38] <bekks> kaklaa: If you want it to be done - ask Microsoft, as I stated above.
[20:39] <kaklaa> bekks: not only NTFS, but there are other issues also, they should not update or alter something which is working fine
[20:39] <bekks> kaklaa: Then install an LTS version.
[20:39] <kaklaa> wifi was working like a charm in 11.04
[20:39] <kaklaa> Now, i am on 12.04 LTS
[20:39] <kaklaa> and wifi hell
[20:39] <bgardner> rahules: Still researching, but this may be your bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1229041
[20:39] <spyke581> When i boot into a live cd it stops after the msi boot screen and goes straight to busy box initramfs. any idea what the problem is?
[20:40] <GuestGuest> after deleting the '.pulse-cookie' i get the following error: E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[20:40] <kaklaa> and unity crashed, when you login to ubuntu live cd, many windows opened, to welcome you with crash reports
[20:41] <rahules> bgardner: yes, it's almost d same. so it hasn't been fixed yet?
[20:41] <bgardner> rahules: No, not yet.  This bug is actually slightly different and is closer to yours:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1239446
[20:41] <kaklaa> many applications, that were working well with earlier versions , pycurl errors without any reason, asking me to check internet connection, while it was working fine,
[20:42] <kaklaa> many bugs, too many bugs to handle by a single simple guy
[20:42] <bekks> kaklaa: Thats why there is a community of thousands of people.
[20:42] <MrMonkey31> kaklaa: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo!
[20:42] <kaklaa> thanks to all Sir and Madams
[20:43] <rahules> bgardner: so i'll have to use terminal right
[20:43] <bgardner> rahules: Or you can use synaptic if you don't like the terminal.
[20:43] <kaklaa> MrMonkey31: what happend?
[20:44] <rahules> bgardner: ah yes, i do have synaptic installed. thanks for your help
[20:44] <bgardner> rahules: Certainly, don't forget to mark one of those two "also affects me" so they know more than one user needs a fix.
[20:44] <kaklaa> I will come here some other day, i need to go, :D
[20:44] <rahules> bgardner: yes, will do
[20:44]  * MrMonkey31 shrugs
[20:45] <tvillerealest> has anyone ever heard of Libre office?
[20:45] <gdos> when i run 'sudo pulseaudio -k' or 'pulseaudio -k' i get the following error: how can i fix? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6332060/ - after deleting the '.pulse-cookie' i get the following error: E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[20:45] <excognac> tvillerealest: ofc itás deafult office in most distros now
[20:46] <skorpio> hello, can i get thumbnails to my .rm video files?
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[20:47] <Calinou> tvillerealest: it's a fork of OpenOffice :)
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[20:49] <ryan-c> http://pastebin.com/npp3NKbK < I'm having some rather nasty problems with a package upgrade, can someone please have a look at this? LTS 12.04 server
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> ryan-c  #ubuntu-server
[20:51] <ryan-c> Hm, why is there a separate channel for servers?
[20:51] <callmekeemz> http://youthwealth.com/?myrefcode=1781wanna make free money it's all in my link no bullshit I make like 1000 a week from home
[20:51] <tfa> hi there
[20:51] <xangua> !ops | callmekeemz
[20:52] <xangua> :(
[20:52] <tfa> what's going on?
[20:52] <Cuppa_coffee> wow
[20:52] <Richhh> bekks GParted says ntfsprogs / ntfs-3g are available (installed already, i guess), so I think i'll just reformat the drive as ntfs again, saying bye bye to xp
[20:52] <Calinou> don't reply to spam
[20:52] <Cuppa_coffee> that was quick op-service :)
[20:52] <tfa> Is this where t ask for help?
[20:53] <Cuppa_coffee> yes
[20:53] <tfa> awesome
[20:53] <tfa> Wi-Fi ain't working
[20:53] <tfa> There is a wi-fi network in the house
[20:53] <tfa> but I can't see it
[20:53] <tfa> just Disconnected :(
[20:53] <Cuppa_coffee> !commands
[20:53] <Richhh> is reformatting this drive likely to resolve the I/O errors during the ubuntu installation?
[20:54] <bekks> Richhh: No.
[20:54] <tfa> okay
[20:54] <bekks> Richhh: You cannot install Ubuntu on NTFS.
[20:54] <tfa> I know how to use a terminal
[20:54] <tfa> but what info do you want?
[20:54] <Cuppa_coffee> tfa, are you sure this is ubuntu related>
[20:54] <Cuppa_coffee> ?
[20:54] <tfa> no?
[20:54] <tfa> maybe not?
[20:54] <tfa> I tried installing a new network card though
[20:55] <tfa> and the problem is still there
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> tfa  start from the beginning, what goes wrong... and don't hit enter too often
[20:55] <Cuppa_coffee> can you check with another wifi device? smartphone or something like that?
[20:55] <tfa> yeah, can see networks there
[20:55] <Richhh> so i should use ext3 for lubuntu?
[20:56] <Richhh> and that would likely resolve the I/O errors?
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> Richhh  or ext4
[20:56] <bgardner> tvillerealest: See: #libreoffice
[20:56] <Richhh> ok
[20:56] <tfa> The laptop running ubuntu is picking up nothing though
[20:57] <tfa> I installed broadcom drivers.
[20:57] <Cuppa_coffee> tfa, obvious question: is the wifi card enabled?
[20:57] <tfa> lol
[20:57] <tfa> yeah
[20:57] <tfa> I tried turning it on and off by the switch
[20:57] <Cuppa_coffee> somebody had to ask :) I
[20:57] <hellyeah> why not use btrfs?
[20:57] <Cuppa_coffee>  ḿ afraid i dunno then?
[20:57] <tfa> it says it's turned off when I turn it off etc
[20:59] <s2013> im on ubuntu on vmware i cant seem to get 1920x1080
[20:59] <tfa> Could it be an antenna problem maybe
[20:59] <tfa> ?
[20:59] <s2013> my windows is on 1920x1080 and its fine
[21:00] <tfa> bleugh, I guess I'll keep searching the net
[21:00] <Cuppa_coffee> tfa, i had a problem with wifi on a netbook once, but lost the chatlogs that solved it. IIRC it might seem on but the drivers may not be enabled.
[21:00] <tfa> how do I check that?
[21:01] <bgardner> ryan-c: If you are still around, have you checked this?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/procps/+bug/1241376
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> !wifi | tfa start here
[21:01] <Cuppa_coffee> could be system settings > additional drivers
[21:01] <ryan-c> bgardner: iscsitarget was to blame
[21:01] <genii> s2013: Maybe see http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1003
[21:01] <tfa> I tried both of them :(
[21:01] <ryan-c> invalid sysctl config entry
[21:01] <bgardner> ryan-c: Ok, thanks for the reply
[21:02] <Cuppa_coffee> tfa, then im afraid i dunno. sorry
[21:02] <tfa> oh and yeah, thanks for the help anyway
[21:02] <tfa> :)
[21:02] <tfa> I appreciate the reply
[21:02] <s2013> i was able to use xrandr genii thanks
[21:02] <Cuppa_coffee> :)
[21:02] <s2013> works now
[21:02] <ryan-c> bgardner: *reads the bug* Yes, that was my problem.
[21:02] <Cuppa_coffee> naptime, goodnight all
[21:03] <genii> s2013: Ah, good :)
[21:03] <hellyeah> or
[21:03] <hellyeah> raiserfs
[21:03] <tfa> buh bye
[21:03] <hellyeah> once i used raiserfs
[21:03] <bgardner> ryan-c: Cool, glad to know my launchpad-fu is in working order.
[21:03] <hellyeah> thats not so bad
[21:09] <tvillerealest> excognac: For some reason i dont have it do you know how i can get it?
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> tvillerealest: what distro are you running?
[21:10] <tvillerealest> ubuntu
[21:10] <tvillerealest> unity
[21:11] <k1l> tvillerealest: what is the issue? can you state that in one sentence?
[21:11] <hitsujiTMO> tvillerealest: its part of the base install. open the dash and type libreoffice
[21:12] <tvillerealest> hitsujiTMO: its not showing up, i dont think it installed at all on here
[21:12] <k1l> tvillerealest: "sudo apt-get install libreoffice"
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> tvillerealest: open the terminal and type: libreoffice
[21:13] <k1l> tvillerealest: and please put the output of that and the output of "lsb_release -a" into a pastebin
[21:13] <motsu35> hey guys, im having some erros with git, as well as adding ppa's. i realized its an error with pycurl using gnutils rather than openssl. im in the process of recompiling pycurl to use openssl instead. im following a guide, but ran into some problems. would anyone here be able to help?
[21:13] <tvillerealest> kil: idk how to do that, im new to this stuff
[21:14] <motsu35> tvillerealest: lsb_release -a > output.txt
[21:14] <motsu35> then open the output.txt file that was made, and pastbin it
[21:14] <motsu35> actually, do ~/Desktop/output.txtx instead
[21:15] <motsu35> so it makes the file in your home folder, rather then your current directory
[21:15] <hitsujiTMO> tvillerealest: open the terminal and type: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsb_release -a | pastebinit
[21:15] <k1l> tvillerealest: open a terminal, give those commands into it. then mark the whole output with the mouse and copy that with right click menue. then go to paste.ubuntu.com and put the text there and show the link here
[21:17] <Guest8942> On my pc have ubuntu 9.04 can i upgrade to 13.10 ?
[21:17] <bekks> !eolupgrade
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> Guest8942: what processor and gpu do you have?
[21:17] <Guest8942> I have pentium 4
[21:17] <Guest8942> 512 mb graphic card
[21:17] <Guest8942> i have resources
[21:18] <Guest8942> but i haven't cd or usb with newest ubuntu
[21:18] <gdos> when i run 'sudo pulseaudio -k' or 'pulseaudio -k' i get the following error: how can i fix? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6332060/ - after deleting the '.pulse-cookie' i get the following error: E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[21:18] <k1l> Guest8942: honestly, do a backup and go for a clean install. you need to do that much updates that it would take way longer that way
[21:18] <DJones> Guest8942: Im afraid not, youll need to do a fresh install, the chances of something breaking  with 1/2 dozen upgrades is quite likely
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> Guest8942: ubuntu wont run well on that system at all. you'd be better off with lubuntu or xubuntu
[21:18] <Guest8942> thanks fro ehlp
[21:18] <Guest8942> for help*
[21:20] <Richhh> lubuntu failed to install again, hung at * Starting           [ OK ]  (after * Stopping System V runlevel compatibility       [ OK ] )
[21:21] <Richhh> only [fail] was Starting Reload cups (first time OK, fail identical process afterwards)
[21:25] <who__> im trying to use tor and the tor browser, bur when iḿ trying to use the keyboard i cant type anything, whats the problem?
[21:25] <Ontani> Hi, i'm trying to setup LAMP on 13.10 but i'm getting: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql has no installation candidate
[21:25] <Ontani> what should i do?
[21:26] <Ontani> i'm considering 12.10 or 13.04
[21:26] <MonkeyDust> Ontani  if you want to make it a server, i'd go for 12.04 lts
[21:27] <Ontani> ok
[21:28] <Ontani> thanks for the hint
[21:30] <smccoy> How do I change my fonts, on these newfangled ubuntu versions?
[21:31] <hitsujiTMO> Ontani: i presume you are following a guide for the install. libapache2-mod-auth-mysql is not required and not available on 13.10
[21:31] <^Phantom^> offensive-securi, no, just no, please don't PM me
[21:32] <Ontani> following a guide indeed
[21:32] <tag> Used to be under "apperances"
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> Ontani  also consider using tasksel (task select)
[21:34] <hitsujiTMO> Ontani: I'm not sure why most guides ask you to install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql but it is rarely used so you can leave it out.
[21:34] <Ontani> ok thanks
[21:34] <tag> I see, the unity-tweak-tool
[21:35] <tag> I guess there's an app for that
[21:36] <tag> Next question
[21:37] <tag> For some reason, in gvim pressing Alt engages the menu and steals my input focus, preventing me from being able to type <M-h>
[21:38] <tag> This is abjectly frustrating, so is there any way I can disable that functionality?  What is that even called, I searched the control panel for "interfere with application input" but it didn't match anything
[21:38] <hitsujiTMO> tag: hold alt for a second
[21:39] <tag> hitsujiTMO: That doesn't really do it
[21:40] <sammy_> why would dmidecode say my motherboard's max memory (in terms of GB) is larger than my manufacturer says?
[21:40] <tag> Not to mention this is part of an input sequence
[21:40] <hitsujiTMO> tag: in unity-twead-tools you can modify the keyboard shortcut under: Additional
[21:41] <bekks> tag: because the mainboard may accept more memory, while the memory controller of the CPU doesnt.
[21:41] <sammy> is it reporting the max the chipset allows? I guess I need tolook into where dmidecode gets its information.
[21:41] <sammy> bekks: ahh, I figured it might be something like that
[21:42] <tag> hitsujiTMO: What is the "HUD" anyway and why on earth would I want it?
[21:42] <sammy> samsung's website is very ... it seems to say I can put dd3 ram in here when there is ddr2 installed currently. i thought they had a different number of pins, i didn't think you could upgrade from 2 to 3.
[21:42] <sammy> im going to assume the website is ... confused.
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> tag: allows you to navigate application menus with the keyboard instead of the mouse... makes it much faster
[21:44] <thatguy001> Can someone please help me to upgrade to 13.10? theres kind of a long story behind my problem
[21:44] <tag> hitsujiTMO: Mapping the HUD to <Alt>F9 doesn't seem to solve my problem.
[21:45] <bekks> thatguy001: Then whats your current ubuntu version?
[21:45] <thatguy001> bekks, 12.04
[21:45] <tag> I still can't type <M-h> into my damned vim window.
[21:45] <bekks> thatguy001: Then you have to update to 13.04 and to 13.10.
[21:46] <vkr>  /quit
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> thatguy001  backup and fresh install would be faster, easier and cleaner
[21:46] <tag> This is so keeping me from getting work done.
[21:46] <thatguy001> bekks, i know, the problem is i can't just run the update because I'm missing a kernel that's in the update. so my system crashes half way through
[21:47] <thatguy001> and i can't boot from a usb because i don't know why
[21:47] <thatguy001> i've tried two usbs and two different iso files
[21:47] <bekks> thatguy001: So basically, you tried to update, it crashed, and now you cant even boot?
[21:48] <thatguy001> bekks i can boot
[21:48] <thatguy001> bekks, but the systems doesn't stay up for long
[21:48] <bekks> thatguy001: That means...?
[21:48] <thatguy001> bekks, the screan goes to just the background. none of the hot keys work i can't open a terminal
[21:49] <bekks> thatguy001: So you cant boot successfully to a desktop.
[21:49] <tag> There we go
[21:49] <tag> had to disable it whatever be the reason
[21:49] <bekks> thatguy001: That means: get a 13.10 cd and reinstall - thats the fastest way.
[21:49] <Jpmh> trying to install - I select - erase and use entire disk - it starts - then it tells me : the ext4 filesystem on partition #1 of scsi1 (0,0.0) (sda) failed.  What does this mean and how to I fix it?
[21:50] <thatguy001> bekks, there is no cd rom in my computer
[21:50] <thatguy001> bekks, only usb
[21:50] <bekks> thatguy001: How did you install Ubuntu then?
[21:50] <thatguy001> bekks, usb
[21:50] <esde> Quick question, I've got a user with a win7 machine, old dell 4700. The hdd just died and all the shop techs use it for is web-based CRM, web-based notes, (online music) and web-based inventory management. Would it be possible to get him running with ubuntu installed on a usb stick, and ditch the hdd altogether?
[21:51] <bekks> thatguy001: So basically your computer boots from USB.
[21:51] <bekks> esde: We dont knwo the requiremets of the said applications to be run.
[21:51] <esde> Firefox web browser
[21:51] <esde> and maybe flash
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> esde  you can boot from usb and copy the files on the HDD to some safe place
[21:52] <hellyeah> what
[21:52] <esde> MonkeyDust, the hdd is dead. I am running by the channel an idea to ditch the hard drive altogether
[21:53] <bean> esde: yes you can do a USB drive with persistent storage.
[21:53] <jhutchins_wk> esde: I had a system that was PXEBoot, and I had to switch to an ISP provided router.  No room for an HD, so I installed Debian to an SD card in a USB adapter and it ran ok if somewhat slowly.
[21:53] <bean> esde: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[21:53] <thatguy001> bekks, I'm not sure if i'm making myself clear. I was able to install ubuntu 12.04 with a bootable usb. I noticed that the system was not funtioning properly, the cpu was being maxed out at all times and the computer would freeze. apon research I found that I needed a kerne that was in ubuntu 13.10. I can't run the update normally because ubuntu freezes half way through
[21:54] <esde> thanks bean, I think i found what im looking for :)
[21:54] <bekks> thatguy001: Then you have to create a bootable USB for 13.10 and install that way.
[21:54] <jhutchins_wk> esde: If their web apps work with firefox on windows, they should work in iceweasel.  If they require IE4 notsomuch.
[21:54] <jhutchins_wk> esde: I created the system with debootstrap.
[21:54] <thatguy001> bekks, I've been trying to do that, but I can't get past grub
[21:54] <thatguy001> I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong
[21:54] <zenx> Hi I installed 13.10 when it was "beta",  with the updated is my system up to date or are there still components from the beta?
[21:54] <bekks> thatguy001: On a bootable USB, grub isnt even used, isnt it?
[21:55] <DJones> !final | zenx
[21:55] <bekks> thatguy001: the ISO is using syslinux as far as I know.
[21:55] <thatguy001> I did the exact same process as when I installed ubuntu the first time
[21:55] <esde> Sweet! thanks jhutchins_wk, I was worried about possibly needing ietab in firefox, but using iceweasel would be even easier! :))
[21:55] <DJones> zenx: Thats also  refers to Saucy
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> thatguy001: at what point in the installer does it fail exactly? is it the same point each time?
[21:55] <zenx> DJones,  thanks
[21:56] <bekks> thatguy001: So which process did you follow to create the bootable USB?
[21:56] <jhutchins_wk> esde: Sorry, iceweasel is Debian-specific, firefox in ubuntu.
[21:56] <thatguy001> hitsujiTMO, it doesn't even get to the installer. It just goes right to ubuntu 12.04
[21:56] <jhutchins_wk> esde: (iceweasel is the same code rebranded)
[21:56] <houkouonchi-home> anyone here very familiar with grub 2 on ubuntu?
[21:56] <bekks> thatguy001: So you didnt create the bootable USB correctly.
[21:56] <bekks> !anyone | houkouonchi-home
[21:57] <thatguy001> bekks, i cleared the usb and configred it using diskpart on my windows system
[21:57] <bekks> thatguy001: Thats basically the wrong approach.
[21:57] <bekks> !usb
[21:57] <esde> Now I can take some memory from this machine with 3GB of ram and move it to their windows machine with only 256MB of ram, too :D
[21:57] <thatguy001> bekks, http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj200124.aspx
[21:57] <thatguy001> bekks, then I mounted the iso file using 7zip
[21:57] <bekks> thatguy001: ^^there you go :)
[21:57] <Ben64> thatguy001: why are you linking to microsoft? you're trying to make an Ubuntu usb, not a Windows one
[21:58] <bekks> thatguy001: 7zip does not mount anything, it unpacks stuff.
[21:58] <houkouonchi-home> ok.. does anyone know how to 1) select kernels via command that are in a submenu entry or 2) disable submenu entries without modifying existing grub files so when an update happens you get a bitch about files being modified?
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> thatguy001: thats for windows! it installs a bootstrap that invokes a windows installer
[21:58] <bekks> !usb | thatguy001
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> thatguy001: use unetbootin or linuxliveusb
[21:58] <Ben64> or dd
[21:58] <bekks> thatguy001: So did you install your 12.04 in Windows, using Wubi?
[21:59] <thatguy001> bekks, no, I used diskpart and 7zip to create the bootable usb, then i partitioned another usb to get past the UEFI
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> houkouonchi-home: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[22:00] <houkouonchi-home> hitsujiTMO: 12.04
[22:00] <Ben64> thatguy001: that is NOT how to make a bootable ubuntu usb
[22:00] <dezine> I'm trying to copy a file to external drives but none will work. I have an extern hd and a thumb, neither let me. I cannot format the thumb either. They both say read-only and they won't let me change them.
[22:00] <bekks> thatguy001: then follow the link given for creating a bootable usb - you dont need diskpart, 7zip or stuff.
[22:00] <thatguy001> bekks, so how did it work the first time?
[22:01] <bekks> thatguy001: I strongly doubt it did that way.
[22:01] <bekks> thatguy001: And thats out of interest for solving your problem.
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> houkouonchi-home: so what exactly do you have in your grub thats not being preserved on update-grub?
[22:02] <houkouonchi-home> hitsujiTMO: the problem is that setting GRUB_DEFAULT=X in /etc/default/grub or even manually putting it in /boot/grub/menu.lst does not work for kernels in the sub-menu
[22:02] <houkouonchi-home> even though acccording to a page I read it said that it would work on sub-menu's
[22:03] <MeanKitty> Hi there, how can I display an image in the center of my screen floating above all other windows?
[22:03] <thatguy001> bekks, ok, so you're saying i need to use the linux live usb creator ?
[22:03] <MeanKitty> E.g. "Always on top"
[22:03] <bekks> thatguy001: I am saying: please read the link given, read it entirely.
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> houkouonchi-home: you should be adding you're customisations in /etc/grub.d
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> dezine, I assume ext4 partitions, http://askubuntu.com/questions/159992/how-to-mount-ext4-partition
[22:04] <hitsujiTMO> houkouonchi-home: the normal file to edit is /etc/grub.d/40_custon iirc
[22:04] <houkouonchi-home> hitsujiTMO: yeah well I was wondering via a file in there if there is anyway to remove submenu's completely
[22:04] <houkouonchi-home> i have a sed that will do it but just putting a command in there (even with exec in front of it) doesn't seem to get the job done
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> houkouonchi-home: are you running update-grub after you make your changes?
[22:05] <houkouonchi-home> yes
[22:05] <thatguy001> bekks, no, I didn't use wubi. I used diskpart and 7 zip and i put the usb in and it started the installer when i booted
[22:06] <thatguy001> bekks, oh sorry
[22:06] <bekks> thatguy001: You told that three times now. It is still the wrong approach.
[22:06] <thatguy001> bekks, never mind that
[22:06] <thatguy001> bekks, i was reading the wrong thin. I'll read the link, try it out and get back to you
[22:06] <thatguy001> bekks, thanks for the advice
[22:11] <hitsujiTMO> houkouonchi-home: so if i'm understanding the issue correctly: you're trying to change the default os that is being booted up, however, when grub is updated, it's overwriting /etc/default/grub so you're customisations are gone?
[22:12] <houkouonchi-home> well /boot/grub/grub.cfg is actually what is written
[22:12] <hitsujiTMO> houkouonchi-home: and setting the default in /etc/default/grub doesn't work?
[22:13] <houkouonchi-home> numerical doesn't work if its a submenu.. full name works if you do submenu/menu
[22:13] <houkouonchi-home> the problem is now you have to figure out its a submenu.. its just making automation of this a PITA....
[22:13] <houkouonchi-home> just found out you can boot sub-menu options by using submenu/menu format
[22:14] <houkouonchi-home> hitsujiTMO: the problem is this is all for automation
[22:14] <houkouonchi-home> and the sub-menu system is just making it a pain in the ass
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> houkouonchi-home: have you tried adding a custom entry in /etc/grub.d that has a lower number than the existing files such that it gets envoked at an earlier point and becomes the first entry?
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> houkouonchi-home: there's potential the the existing scripts might get overwritten (excluding the 00_custom) on a grub update so modifying them may not work
[22:18] <houkouonchi-home> well i was hoping i could just use sed to remove the subentry part of the config files with a 50_custom type file that ran last and just formatted the final version of the file
[22:18] <houkouonchi-home> i don't really know how those files are invoked though
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> houkouonchi-home: they'll be envoked in ascii order usually
[22:19] <houkouonchi-home> well i thought grub-update used those files in order to generate the grub.cfg
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> houkouonchi-home: yes, it does, but an update to grub-pc package could potentiall overwrite those files
[22:20] <houkouonchi-home> its looking like I am just gonna have to parse through grub.cfg figure out if its in a sub-menu and then how use a xx_custom file to set default="submenu/menu"
[22:20] <houkouonchi-home> which I was hoping I could avoid
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> btw, is this an uefi system or mbr?
[22:22] <umar343> i am getting the error : IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/abcd/.config/ibus/bus is not root!
[22:23] <bekks> umar343: Thats a warning only.
[22:23] <umar343> unable to detect dvd drive and hdd
[22:23] <bekks> umar343: When doing what?
[22:23] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: i would not expect anything in your home dir to be owned by root
[22:24] <bekks> !details | umar343
[22:26] <luck320> hello
[22:28] <Boogie6000> hello everybody!!
[22:28] <luck320> hello
[22:29] <sisterFister> hello everyone. So a message just popped up for me saying that the "Filesystem root" has only 633 MB remaining. I know that my SSD has around 40GB of space available on it. It is also the only HD that's connected. What's going on here?
[22:29] <bekks> sisterFister: Enter "df -h" in a terminal.
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: can you pastebin the output of: df -h
[22:30] <sisterFister> bekks: hitsujiTMO http://pastebin.com/duPRvx5R
[22:31] <esde> im using portablelinux to try and create a persistent usb install as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent#Portable_Linux_.28GUI-based.29 only problem is ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386 is 7MB larger than the 700MB limit portablelinux has. Is there a way for me to safely raise this limit? Or is there another install that's slightly smaller for 12.04 desktop i386?
[22:31] <bekks> sisterFister: Yo have 291M left on /
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: your / only has 15GB ... how much ram do you have?
[22:31] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: 20G
[22:31] <ozette> anyone running rxvt?
[22:32] <umar343> I entered the following command " sudo lshw -C disk "in ubuntu 13.04 powered,2nd generation intel laptop,and the dvd drive & Hard disk is been detected,but when i run the "files and folders" application,I expect the presence of "ubuntu-disk" & "Hard disk" in the sidebar,which is absent,External storage is detected,
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: i suspect you have a massive swap partition. can you pastebin the output of: lsblk
[22:32] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: bekks when I right click the SSD in the file explorer it gives the option to mount it.
[22:33] <bekks> sisterFister: Which will not change the fact that you have only 291M free space on your 15G /
[22:33] <kostkon> sisterFister, also output of:  df -h
[22:33] <sisterFister> bekks: hitsujiTMO http://pastebin.com/WGgtbUTD
[22:33] <kostkon> sisterFister, oh already done that
[22:34] <jrib> ozette: what's your next question?
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: you're not using /dev/sda3 whats on it?
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister do you have another operating system on it? thats your 40gbs free btw
[22:35] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: nope no other OS on this.
[22:36] <kostkon> sisterFister, or unallocated space but how could that happen. did you manually created your partitions during installation?
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: can you mount it and have a look whats there: if there's nothing there you can delete it and increate the size of sda2
[22:36] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: kostkon nothing in there
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: if you're happy nothing is there, then boot to a live cd, run gparted and delete /dev/sda3 ... then increase the size of /dev/sda2
[22:37] <kostkon> sisterFister, did you mount it
[22:38] <sisterFister> kostkon: yes.
[22:38] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: kostkon: this may have resulted from a failed attempt at installing windows.
[22:38] <kostkon> sisterFister, ok just checcking
[22:39] <kostkon> sisterFister, then it's just an empty ntfs partition, probably
[22:40] <tfh> hi, i upgraded yesterday, and since then my scroll pad doesn't work anymore. I have an acer aspire timleline. (there is a line on the right of the pad, usually swiping the finger up and down causes the page (like browser for example) to scroll up and down, this isnt working  anymore)
[22:41] <Console> Quick question: I don't know which program, I tried uninstalling lampp but mysqld is running on port 3306 and all I'm trying to do is uninstall it so it doesn't keep running every time I restart
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> tfh: check settings in: system settings -> mouse + touchpad
[22:41] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: kostkon: ty for your help.
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> Console: how did you install it?
[22:42] <sisterFister> Would anyone happen to know if Xubuntu experiences the same laptop suspend issues as Ubuntu?
[22:42] <Console> I'm not quite sure. I tried apt-get autoremove mysql-common and I uninstalled lampp as well
[22:42] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: mostlikely, most suspends issues are caused by kernel modules
[22:42] <Console> I was testing a while ago and I want to start fresh but it keeps on running
[22:42] <tfh> hitsujiTMO,, I did ...
[22:43] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: I thought so. Didn't have any problems using lubuntu though. Was that luck?
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> Console: how did you "uninstall lampp"?
[22:43] <Console> There was an uninstall script that I ran
[22:43] <Yepyep> Hey, so my machine hangs at the last shutdown loading screen, the five loading dots are active but it has stayed like this for 10 minutes. Could it be the GRUB?
[22:43] <umar343> i need guidance step by step please.http://pastebin.com/J6ZaQ8fa      am not able to access the content on the hard disk and dvd writer.
[22:43] <yans> http://allegro.pl/show_item.php?item=3667660606
[22:43] <Console> sudo ./uninstall in /opt/lampp where it was installed
[22:44] <p111_ad> o/ had a failed apt-get install cause of lack of space, had to reboot then decided to delete apt cache and now i have this errror>
[22:44] <p111_ad> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[22:44] <p111_ad> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[22:44] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: different version ? could be issues with the graphics causing it. unity uses 3d acceleration which lubuntu doesn't use
[22:44] <yans> Shom me your desktop and i tell you who you are!
[22:44] <hitsujiTMO> Console: is this xampp?
[22:45] <Console> hitsujiTMO: Yes
[22:45] <hitsujiTMO> !xampp | Console
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> yans: please refrain from advertising in here
[22:47] <p111_ad> 100% stuck since apt wont work
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> p111_ad: how exactly did you delete the apt-cache?
[22:50] <p111_ad> hitsujiTMO: hi, with aptitude clean but before i had a crash while installing cause of lack of space
[22:51] <hitsujiTMO> p111_ad: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf && sudo apt-get update
[22:51] <p111_ad> did that already before coming here, no fix for me
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> p111_ad: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[22:52] <p111_ad> raring armhf
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> p111_ad: what's the output of: ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/status
[22:55] <p111_ad> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 860322 Oct 30 21:41 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[22:56] <hitsujiTMO> p111_ad: can you pastebin the output of: diff /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status
[22:57] <p111_ad> sure, just a min
[22:57] <Dyscalculatorius> Ubuntu VS. Arch Linux
[22:57] <Dyscalculatorius> GO !
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | Dyscalculatorius
[22:57] <Dyscalculatorius> ohps
[22:58] <esde> ubuntu 12.04.3 desktop amd64, video is AMD Radeon HD 7450 (shipped install in a pavilion hpe). I've installed catalyst and it shows the device properly, however when I open  Details>Graphics it says Driver Unknown and Experience Standard. Is this normal?
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> esde did you just install catalyst? or did you install fglrx too?
[23:00] <esde> yes, i have fglrx installed too
[23:00] <esde> OpenGL version string: 4.2.12217 Compatibility Profile Context 12.104
[23:01] <akurilin> How likely am I to screw something up if I run apt-get autoremove?
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> esde how did you install it?
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> akurilin: very unlikely
[23:02] <jrib> akurilin: unlikely (but read what it wants to do before accepting)
[23:04] <Kove> Hi, i'm experiencing random crashes, the system does not even respond to ctrl+alt+f1/backspace, someone wants to help ?
[23:04] <akurilin> jrib, anything I should be looking for ?
[23:04] <akurilin> in the output
[23:04] <jrib> akurilin: if it wants to remove lots of packages that seem important/you want :)
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> akurilin: can you pastebin the list
[23:05] <jrib> akurilin: if you aren't sure, you can pastebin as hitsujiTMO recommends
[23:06] <akurilin> jrib, hitsujiTMO this is what I got: http://pastebin.com/25xmGZND
[23:07] <akurilin> I did LTS enablement stack on this machine
[23:07] <akurilin> so it's probably trying to get rid of some ancient stuff
[23:07] <umar343> @hitsujiTMO how do i become root ?
[23:07] <jrib> akurilin: looks like just a bunch of libs mostly.  Should be ok afaict
[23:08] <hitsujiTMO> akurilin: should be ok as jrib said
[23:08] <bekks> akurilin: Whats the "lts enablement stack"?
[23:08] <akurilin> jrib, hitsujiTMO thanks folks
[23:08] <hitsujiTMO> akurilin: i would guess they were from a game looking the libs
[23:09] <akurilin> bekks, I guess it's a way to upgrade a 12.04 kernel to support more recent hardware
[23:09] <akurilin> so you go from 3.2 to 3.5 I think
[23:09] <akurilin> and then eventually to whatever's after 3.5 once it's been proven not to break too much stuff
[23:09] <akurilin> in my case it's been a 50/50, one machine went into kernel panic when I did that, another one upgraded just fine
[23:10] <akurilin> it's a bit of an upgrade Russian roulette
[23:10] <jc_> how would i make a live cd with debain on it for a powerpc?
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | jc_
[23:11] <Kove> hi, i'm experiencing random crashes on ubuntu 12.04 LTS, can someone help me ?
[23:11] <Lisa201> What type of crashes Kove?
[23:12] <esde> hitsujiTMO, i installed fglrx with apt and catalyst from amd's site iirc
[23:12] <Kove> Hi Lisa201 , system freezes, mouse cursor freeze, ctrl+alt+F1/backspace do not work
[23:12] <jc_> ok. how would i make a live cd with ubuntu for powerpc?
[23:13] <esde> actually, i used additional drivers. :/
[23:13] <Lisa201> Wow, that's a solid freeze.  Has it done this with any other operating system?
[23:14] <jc_> ok. how would i make a live cd with ubuntu for powerpc?
[23:14] <Kove> I dont know, this is the only OS I have on this machine. Never installed windows here. Tried memtest but everything was ok
[23:14] <Lisa201> You know how to burn DVD's and CD's jc_ ?
[23:14] <hitsujiTMO> esde: if you go to: system settings -> software and updates -> addtional drivers     is there anthying showing up there?
[23:15] <jc_> yes through brasero?
[23:15] <esde> Yes, I'm using the fglrx driver. It is activated but not in use.
[23:15] <Lisa201> so jc_ you can download any ISO image and use brasero to burn that 'bootable' dvd or cd.
[23:15] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: what version of ubuntu do you wish to install?
[23:15] <esde> (post-release updates)
[23:16] <Lisa201> jc_, I usually right-click on the ISO when you are finished downloading it, and select brasero
[23:16] <jc_> what version would work on an imac g3/500?
[23:16] <ikonia> pretty much none
[23:16] <ikonia> the PPC port is dead
[23:17] <hitsujiTMO> jc_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads/  thats the downloads but a imac might not even be able to run them
[23:17] <Lisa201> jc_, so you want to burn a Powerpc DVD install cd from within Ubuntu?
[23:17] <ikonia> the builds are automated, and to be honest, I wouldn't trust them anymore, it's pretty much dead
[23:18] <Kove> hi, solid crashes here on ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Can anyone help me ?
[23:18] <jc_> i think thats what i want to do. i've seen on youtube that people are able to put ubuntu on their old imacs
[23:18] <ikonia> Kove: you'd need to provide more information than "solid crashes"
[23:19] <Lisa201> Kove, usually a hard freeze like that is memory related.
[23:19] <Kove> I would. Tell me what information do you want. I've tried memtest and everyting looked fine
[23:19] <ikonia> jc_: a long time ago PPC was well maintained and even an official release I think, then it slipped to community support, then auto builds with community trying to fix it, for all intents, it's dead
[23:19] <hitsujiTMO> jc_ you want the desktop-powerpc.iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/   it's the only version that's supported anymore. but it probably wont run on such an old system
[23:19] <Lisa201> Kove, if you have more than one memory module in the system, try it with one at a time.
[23:21] <Kove> I have one, and the memtest runt 40 mins with no errors ...
[23:21] <jc_> yea that doesnt sound like it will work
[23:21] <Lisa201> Kove, what version you trying to run?
[23:21] <Kove> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[23:22] <Lisa201> That's a stable release...
[23:22] <Lisa201> Hum...
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> kove what processor do you have?
[23:23] <Lisa201> Kove, Possibly a corrupt download?  Does it install all the way, or crash after it's been running?
[23:23] <ikonia> guys - why don't you find out more about the crash
[23:23] <ikonia> you're shooting blind making assumptions
[23:23] <Kove> I checked the cd ( usb stick ) for problems and everything was ok
[23:23] <ikonia> find out more about the crash, the situations, if it's hard locked, if you can get  sysrq dump
[23:24] <Lisa201> If it's hard crashed, there's not mouse, no way to ssh to it. etc...
[23:25] <ikonia> Lisa201: who said anything about the mouse or ssh
[23:25] <ikonia> finding out more about the situation, such as if it really is hard locked would be a good start
[23:25] <Kove> yeah, mouse is freezed. Not tried SSH however
[23:25] <Lisa201> He said the mouse locks up, that's usually a sign that the lower level threads crashed too.
[23:25] <Kove> ctrl+alt+F1 doesnt work
[23:25] <ikonia> Lisa201: no, it could just be Xorg
[23:25] <andross> hello
[23:26] <philanthropy> Hey.
[23:26] <Lisa201> Could be, but not usually.
[23:26] <ikonia> and even then the sysrq dump should still be active, depending on the situation
[23:26] <philanthropy> Hello Lisa201.
[23:26] <Lisa201> Hi philanthropy
[23:26] <philanthropy> How are you this brisk evening?
[23:27] <Lisa201> Good, but I had to load Mint 15/kde.  Ubuntu 13.10 was not runnable.
[23:27] <philanthropy> Oh wow.
[23:28] <dimitrilc> Does 13.10 support multi-monitors yet on Intel graphics?
[23:28] <philanthropy> Lisa201 could I interest you in a live djed radio station?
[23:28] <Kove> I have the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo, here it is http://pastebin.com/D48Fn917
[23:28] <k1l> dimitrilc: yes
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> dimitrilc: ofcourse it does
[23:28] <Lisa201> nope philanthropy ...
[23:28] <dimitrilc> Thanks!!
[23:28] <philanthropy> Oh.
[23:28] <philanthropy> Where are you from Lisa201?
[23:29] <Lisa201> Another place!  You been there?
[23:29] <ikonia> philanthropy: you may want to try #ubuntu-offtopic the social channel for more social chatter
[23:29] <kingbeast> Why am I having such a hard time installing chrome on 13.10?
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> kove: is the live cd getting the same crashes? or just your install ... and how long before the crash occurs or is it just random?
[23:29] <philanthropy> This is not social banter, this conversation pertains to her Ubuntu 13.10 problem.
[23:29] <Lisa201> Chrome or Chroium? (sp?)
[23:30] <hitsujiTMO> kingbeast: whats the exact issue?
[23:30] <ikonia> philanthropy: "can I interest you in a dj station" "where are you from" is nothing to do with a 13.10 problem
[23:30] <dimitrilc> kingbeast: how are you installing it?
[23:30] <Lisa201> 13.10 was slow in everything it did, from booting to the logon prompt, to loading any applications.
[23:30] <ikonia> philanthropy: for that sort of thing #ubuntu-offtopic is the right channel, please.
[23:30] <Kove> hitsujitmo , is the install. The crash is completely random, sometimes it works for hours
[23:30] <kingbeast> It starts to install then just stops. Through the software center
[23:31] <dimitrilc> kingbeast: the software center in 13.10 has Chrome?
[23:31] <hitsujiTMO> kingbeast: i presume you mean chromium then not chrome
[23:32] <Lisa201> Kove, when it crashes, if you have another computer you can use to ping the system, does it reply?
[23:32] <k1l> kingbeast: use dpkg in the terminal to see if there are errors
[23:32] <Kove> I have not tried. I will try
[23:32] <esde> hitsujiTMO, In additional driver it shows the fglrx friver and underneath it says  "The Driver is activated but not in use."
[23:32] <Lisa201> Kove, not the IP address when it's running and try that.
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> esde: can you pastebin your Xorg.0.log
[23:33] <kingbeast> Never mind it just installed it.
[23:33] <Lisa201> Kove, my instinct tells me it will not respond and it's still memory related.
[23:33] <Lisa201> Nice kingbeast
[23:33] <Kove> ok Lisa201, I will try asap
[23:34] <Kove> is there any log I should look at ?
[23:34] <esde> http://pastebin.com/TkMT7tWG
[23:34] <esde> hitsujiTMO, ^
[23:34] <Lisa201> Kove, look at the end of the syslog they might show something.
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> Kove: /var/log/syslog or /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:34] <Lisa201> Ya, those
[23:35] <Lisa201> check the end of the previous ones too, with tail.  tail /var/log/syslog.1 etc...
[23:35] <Lisa201> Kove, could it be over-heating?
[23:37] <Kove> lisa201, I tough about that, but the notebook seems cold as the artic ...
[23:38] <wKent> m
[23:39] <hs2> hi does anyone know how to get the scripts used to build this: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ppa/+build/4355594
[23:39] <hs2> apache build scripts
[23:39] <ikonia> apache isn't "build scripts" it's a web server
[23:39] <hitsujiTMO> esde: looks like the supplied fglrx might not support your card. you may need a newer driver
[23:40] <ikonia> hs2: what is it you actually want to do ?
[23:40] <hp_> how to solve the problem connection time out .. error 504 in firefox?
[23:40] <hs2>  I want to build 2.2.25 for hardy
[23:40] <ikonia> hs2: the web server you are pointing at is timing out, it's out of your control
[23:40] <ikonia> hs2: what's wrong with the version that ships with hardy ?
[23:40] <ikonia> isn't hardy EOL now ?
[23:40] <hs2> PCI compliance
[23:40] <hs2> yea
[23:41] <hs2> its EOL as of march..
[23:41] <ikonia> so that's going to cause problems then as the dependencies that package will want will not be met
[23:41] <Kove> Lisa201 I just installed a temperature monitor. sda is at 29°, and "temp1" ( I think is the cpu ) 32°
[23:41] <hs2> 2.2.25 shouldn't have too much more dependencies right?
[23:41] <ikonia> hs2: depends what they have put against the dependencies
[23:41] <ikonia> (bad wording)
[23:41] <ikonia> hs2: what's the version that ships in hardy
[23:42] <hs2> not sure it seems its just bug fixes
[23:42] <hs2> latest is 2.2.8
[23:42] <ikonia> hs2: you do'nt know the version you have....but you want to install a different version
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> esde: might be an idea to try: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[23:42] <ikonia> hs2: finding out the version you have seems pretty important
[23:42] <hs2> its 2.2.8
[23:43] <hs2> i want to go to 2.2.25 from source. but i want to build a deb package for it using whatever ubuntu builds use
[23:43] <hs2> i can't find the source package for it
[23:43] <ikonia> there won't be a source package for it, as a package doesn't exist
[23:43] <hs2> even for 2.2.8 ?
[23:43] <ikonia> there are only source packages for packages that have been built
[23:43] <ikonia> oh, for 2.2.8, sure there is just apt-get source $package
[23:45] <hitsujiTMO> hs2: why are you worried about apache2 being EOL when you are running an EOL operating system?
[23:45] <ikonia> that is the bigger question....
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> EOLbuntu ;)
[23:46] <hs2> hitsujiTMO: tell me about it. i am running legacy software that will take time to update to 13.10. and until then the short term fix is to apply whatever updates possible
[23:46] <hs2> pci compliance is a bitch
[23:46] <ikonia> hs2: but you're updating to another EOL apache build
[23:46] <esde> ty hitsujiTMO
[23:47] <bekks> hs2: pci compliance supports supported LTS releases too ;)
[23:48] <esde> hitsujiTMO, I added the ppa, ran update and then upgrade. xdiagnose was the only thing updated. Do I need to remove and install a package manually?
[23:48] <ikonia> pci complience is about minimising risk, and using non-standard software on an EOL OS is bigger than a vendor packaged build, it would be better to get an exception
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> esde: not sure on this: i'm all intel gfx atm, so haven't had to use that ppa in a good few years
[23:49] <Kove> Lisa201, how can I see if apport is correctly running ?
[23:49] <hitsujiTMO> esde: hopefully someone else will be able to chime in and help you
[23:53] <andy__> test
[23:54] <andy__> hello
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> moo
[23:55] <jmgk> hi Dr_Willis
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> Hiddly Hoo
[23:55] <umar343> i am not able to boot my laptop using live cd , i tried the following , Please check and help me solve the problem using ubuntu.
[23:55] <umar343> http://pastebin.com/cKsYpScq
[23:58] <chsados> umar343: u try a thumb drive ?
[23:59] <jc_> in brasero what option do i click to burn a live cd?