[01:32] <ebitz> Has anyone been seeing checher patterns and stair stepping while moving windows and watching movies.
[01:32] <havenonearth> hello, this is my first time using IRC and support for ubuntu studio via this channel.  Do I just post my question here and now?  Want to make sure I'm following protocol.
[01:32] <holstein> ebitz: no
[01:32] <holstein> ebitz: sounds like graphics related issues.. i would try and rule out hardware issues, and test with other graphics drivers (if available)
[01:33] <holstein> havenonearth: sure
[01:33] <havenonearth> okeh, I'll go ahead.  Was using 12.10, did a clean install of 13.10 for ubuntu studio.  I notice that I connect to the Internet with little problem, but then it disconnects after a period of time of anywhere between 5 minutes and two hours.
[01:34] <havenonearth> I have a dual boot on my laptop with Win 7 and am having no problems on teh windows side.
[01:35] <ebitz> Using nvidia 304.88 now and tried 319 as well but still get the same issues.
[01:35] <holstein> havenonearth: personally, i dont use "internet" with my production machine, but that sounds like a wifi regression
[01:35] <holstein> havenonearth: have you applied all upgrades?
[01:35] <holstein> ebitz: then, i would try and rule out failing hardware
[01:36] <havenonearth> good question.  maybe I should double-check that.  I thought I had, but maybe there have been some updates since then, since this is still a very new distribution.  I'll try it.
[01:36] <holstein> havenonearth: in a terminal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:36] <holstein> then, reboot and check on it
[01:37] <havenonearth> great idea.  that's right, I remember now that sometimes that's the better way to get updates.  I'll try that and let you know if I still have problems.  I'm on the Win7 side so I'll have to log out.  Thanks!
[01:38] <ebitz> holstein: also tried it on gnome and their was no problem.
[01:38] <holstein> ebitz: tried what where?
[01:38] <holstein> ebitz: if things are "just fine" in gnome, use gnome
[01:38] <holstein> ebitz: its likely something to do with your xfce configuration if thats the case
[01:39] <ebitz> ok let me fool around with that for a bit. Thanks for the help by the way
[01:40] <holstein> ebitz: you can always try the live CD to rule out your current install, and a different user to rule out your config
[01:40] <holstein> these days, with ubuntu, i find that just installing something like gnome can pull in conflicts
[01:41] <holstein> not that you shouldnt install it.. or shouldnt be able to.. you totally should, but i find things are changing so much, things break
[01:41] <ebitz> Ok, good to know
[02:35] <haven> Hi, I was logged in a little while ago under havenonearth due to problems with internet connection bugging out after a few minutes.  Taking holstein's advice, I updated everything, but I'm still running into the same problem with the internet cutting out after 5 minutes to 2 hours.
[02:36] <haven> It will actually say I still have a connection, but I can't access webpages through firefox or email through thunderbird.
[02:37] <haven> this is with the new 13.10 update, which I clean-installed to replace 12.10
[06:30] <MajorWedgie> Night all
[06:31] <cfhowlett> sez you.  only 2:30 pm here
[11:40] <zippot> bonjour j'ai un soucis de langague avec mon pc pour choisir la langue sa ne marche plus
[15:30] <Guest67753> hey guys
[15:30] <Guest67753> having trouble getting my mbox to be recognized by ardour/JACK
[15:33] <Guest67753> it shows up in JACK setup:Input/Output device as hw:MBox
[20:39] <havenonearth> hi, I spoke to holstein yesterday about internet problems when I upgraded ubuntu studio from 12.10 to 13.10.  i took the advice to download all updates, but the problems persist.  While I still show a connection to the wifi, neither the web browser nor Thunderbird work.  I don't have this problem on Win7, which I have as  a dual boot on the same laptop, and no one else in my house reports problems on their windows or mac 
[20:40] <havenonearth> The online connection works for a while, but quits after a while--sometimes 5 minutes, sometimes as long as two hours.
[20:40] <havenonearth> I have to reboot to get it going again.
[20:47] <havenonearth> what other things should I look at to get to the bottom of the problem?  I'm actually on Win07 right now because internet connection on ubuntustudio 13.10 isn't reliable?
[20:51] <havenonearth> is anyone here?
[20:59] <OvenWerks> havenonearth: Have you looked at the logs to see what they say? Also, there are probably more people who know about networking on #ubuntu or #xubuntu
[20:59] <havenonearth> how do I look at the logs?
[21:01] <OvenWerks> the log file I would check first would be /var/log/syslog
[21:01] <Unit193> The command, `dmesg`, the files in /var/log/ and I'd also try to ping 8.8.8.8 when you fall off the map.
[21:03] <havenonearth> okay. I'm at the skill level where I need terminal commands given to me character by character.  So the command is dsmesg, then list /var/log/syslog?  and how do I ping 8.8.8.8?
[21:04] <Unit193> dmesg  is the command, and to ping that ip, you simply type   ping 8.8.8.8
[21:05] <havenonearth> okay, I'll give it a shot.  and if I can't figure anything out from there, I'll check #xubuntu.  Thanks!
[21:06] <Unit193> As OvenWerks said, /var/log/syslog too.
[21:06] <Unit193> Bah.
[21:06] <OvenWerks> Unit193: :)
[21:07] <OvenWerks> I wonder if we should have said to use less...
[21:09] <Unit193> tail -n 91  might be better off.
[21:11] <Unit193> (Don't have to hold pgdn or something.)
[21:44] <haven> I'm talking with the #xubuntu folks re Internet issues.  Meanwhile, I also have an issue with the sound card interface.  It's changed between 12.10 and 13.10.   Depending on what I'm doing, I use multiple sound cards.  I rarely use the ALSA internally installed on my Asus 1015-PEM.   I have a Fiio DigiHub external USB card I use for most sound operations and I also have a Numark MixTrack Pro DJ Controller that I use with Mixxx
[21:44] <haven> when I DJ.
[21:46] <haven> Since upgrading, I've had difficulty getting the OS to use the right sound card.  E.g.  when I tell the Audio Mixer to use Digihub, which I have connected to my stereo, it might still use ALSA to play through the computer's internal speakers.  Audio Mixer seems very unreliable and I ended up not being able to use Mixxx at all for a professional DJ gig I had last Saturday night.
[21:48] <haven> It's a bit confusing, too.  AudioMixer will list the sound cards, then list most of them with the word "Playback" in front of them, and then list most of them again with the word  "Capture" in front of it.  Not quite sure what the distinction is.
[22:10] <haven> ?
[22:40] <haven> I have to leave now, but let me know if you still see me connected on IRC either as haven or havenonearth.
[23:05] <OvenWerks> havenonearth: the sound server you are talking about is pulseaudio. The SW you are using is pavucontrol.
[23:06] <OvenWerks> PA thinks in sinks and sources. You can turn the internal card right off which may make things easier becasue it woulxd nforce another (your external) to be default.
[23:08] <OvenWerks> Normally what would happen is that hw:0,0 (your internal card) would be default. You may need to set your USB audio to default at each boot