[00:42] <fatmandown> Can someone help me install the D-Link DWA-171 USB dongle on my new 13.04 installation?
[01:03] <holstein> fatmandown: maybe.. do you have it plugged in? any lights on the dlink? have you used it on a machine with supported drivers before? are you certain the hardware is functioning properly?
[01:18] <fatmandown> holstein, it's plugged in, no lights
[01:21] <holstein> fatmandown: i would make certain the device works. having no lights could mean that it is broken
[01:22] <holstein> otherwise, plug it in, run "lspci" and "lsusb" and see if you see it.. run "ifconfig" and see it you see it
[01:23] <fatmandown> it's up on lsusb but not lspci
[01:23] <holstein> fatmandown: what is? the dlink? listed as what? where? use pastebin if you like
[01:24] <holstein> !paste
[01:24] <fatmandown> unfortunately I can't use pastebin because it's from a computer with no internet access
[01:25] <holstein> fatmandown: what is the output? the chipset?
[01:26] <fatmandown> lsusb just gives the USB ID and "D-Link Corp"
[01:26] <holstein> fatmandown: the chipset..
[01:26] <holstein> for example 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[01:29] <fatmandown> lspci doesn't output anything related to the usb chip
[01:29] <holstein> fatmandown: with wif chipset
[01:29] <holstein> wifi*
[01:30] <holstein> fatmandown: we can google the model #, but that really is not reliable. dlink can change those under the same model number
[01:30] <fatmandown> realtek I believe but hold on
[01:30] <holstein> fatmandown: what would i do? just return it and get something that "just work".. otherwise, we can just keep digging for the chipset
[01:31] <fatmandown> returning it is my failsafe but i'd like to see if it'll work
[01:31] <fatmandown> i've tried compiling the drivers, but they hang at the make step
[01:33] <holstein> fatmandown: compiing what drivers?
[01:33] <holstein> fatmandown: you shouldnt have to compile any drivers.. they are in the kernel, typically
[01:33] <fatmandown> linux drivers for this particular model
[01:33] <holstein> fatmandown: from where?
[01:33] <fatmandown> http://wikidevi.com/wiki/D-Link_DWA-171_rev_A1
[01:34] <holstein> you can try the windows driver with ndisgtk
[01:35] <fatmandown> is it worth getting ndisgtk on a USB flash drive and transferring it over manually?
[01:36] <holstein> fatmandown: personally, as i said, i would return it..
[01:36] <holstein> fatmandown: they should just work
[01:36] <fatmandown> it's a somewhat older desktop
[01:37] <holstein> fatmandown: doesnt matter.. the drivers are just baked into the kernel for most devices like that
[01:37] <holstein> either you have faulty hardware ( the dlink, motherboard, or usb) or a lack of driver support
[01:37] <fatmandown> most of the ones they sell at microcenter/bestbuy probably aren't linux-compatible
[01:37] <fatmandown> damnit
[01:38] <holstein> fatmandown: nothing typically says "linux compatible" on the box, but, most dongles are plug and play now
[01:40] <fatmandown> sonovabitch. I guess I'll go back tomorrow
[04:15] <Kristi_L> Is there anyone here.
[04:15] <Kristi_L> That is slick with Xubuntu
[04:48] <DevZero> can anyone tell me if this card would be compatible with a dell dimension 2400? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130773
[04:49] <DevZero> the dell specs are on or around pg. 28 of the manual: ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_desktop/esuprt_dimension_desktops/dimension-2400_service%20manual_en-us.pdf
[04:49] <DevZero> i'm not overly knowledgeable on hardware specs so any help would be appreciated
[05:01] <Noskcaj10> DevZero, one moment
[05:02] <DevZero> Noskcaj10: thank you
[05:03] <Noskcaj10> DevZero, It should work, it's PCI
[05:03] <Noskcaj10> Why do you need it?
[05:05] <DevZero> i'm giving the computer to an older person who just surfs a few websites and watches the occasional youtube video...checks e-mail, etc.  the onboard graphics chip has always be buggy under linux...X problems...flash looks horrible...the devs don't care to fix these problems...simply easier to stick a card in there and forget about it
[05:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> Is the onboard a VIA?
[05:12] <DevZero> Poisoned_Dragon: not sure what you mean
[05:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> Does VIA make the video chip on the motherboard.
[05:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> Because Via chips like Unichrome are pretty crappy.
[05:13] <DevZero> no it's intel 845G
[05:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> Even in windows
[05:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh.... It's just that old. :(
[05:14] <DevZero> yeah...very old
[05:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> 845s seem to be having alot of problems, lately
[05:14] <DevZero> but apart from the graphics chip linux likes everything else and it's still peppy
[05:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, you're trying to use Xubuntu on it?
[05:15] <DevZero> it will be perfect for this other person once the graphics problem is handled
[05:15] <DevZero> haven't decided...xubuntu or something similar
[05:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> If so, you could try making sure that composting is disabled.
[05:15] <DevZero> yeah, i probably will
[05:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> Intel 845s are terrible at composting effects, like shadows and transparency.
[05:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> Worst case scenario, there's always Lubuntu.
[05:16] <DevZero> well i'm not going to stay with the onboard chipset, that's why i was asking about the card in the link above
[05:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> Can't get more bare bones than that, unless you live in the terminal
[05:16] <DevZero> Poisoned_Dragon: what about peppermint?
[05:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> I wasn't here for the link
[05:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> What DE does peppermint use?
[05:17] <DevZero> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130773
[05:17] <DevZero> lxde
[05:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> I would stay away from Gnome, KDE, and Cinnamon
[05:17] <DevZero> agreed
[05:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, if peppermint has that, and has a good out of box experience, give it a try.
[05:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> I personally am not a fan of lxde as a casual use DE. But, it's great for a workhorse or server pc.
[05:18] <DevZero> yeah...i liked their website and it seems a good fit for the person i'd be giving the computer too...like "here, just click this icon for internet and check your gmail and watch a youtube video" lol
[05:19] <DevZero> yeah lxde is nothing special, but for simple, special use purposes like this, it works
[05:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> It honestly amazes me what chips are still being made in the pci/agp interface.
[05:20] <DevZero> running cairo dock without gl on even works...then i can kill that boring lxde panel
[05:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> A geforce 6 can handle a pretty DE just fine.
[05:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> I use Plank
[05:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> Docky seems cool too.
[05:20] <DevZero> i'll have to look into those
[05:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> Hell, A GeForce6 is win7 compatible. So. it'll work wonders on any linux DE.
[05:21] <goldleaf> hello! I've got a mouse size/theme problem - the size/theme changes, depending on what program it's hovering over.
[05:21] <DevZero> yeah...i think i'm sold on it
[05:22] <DevZero> thanks for your advice
[05:22] <goldleaf> Google has shown many people with the problem, and some solutions, but none are working so far. Anyone here seen this, and have a solution, by chance? thanks!
[05:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> whoa, it's ony 22 dollars?! Not bad if you want to resurrect something.
[05:22] <DevZero> i know...you can't really beat that price
[05:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> Could you imagine a P4 with that card? lol
[05:23] <DevZero> yeah
[08:32] <buji> by mistake i connected a filetype to a wrong programm - now everytime i start this filetype there is an error message. how to change the connection again?
[11:18] <xperement> hi there
[11:18] <xperement> when i lock my screen i see primal Xscreensaver unlocker
[11:19] <xperement> how to replace it to something current with gtk look?
[11:19] <knome> easiest option id to wait until 14.04
[11:19] <knome> *is
[11:20] <xperement> and the next option?
[11:27] <Sysi> install gnome-screensaver or something that does the job and remove xscreensaver
[11:59] <xperement> Sysi,  gnome-screensaver gnome to install?
[11:59] <xperement> seems no
[12:02] <xperement> now i dont have screensaver settings in control panel
[12:02] <xperement> and it locks screen like gnome3
[12:03] <xperement> how to enable locker looks  like login screen?
[12:05] <koegs> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/lightdm-session-locker-light-locker.html
[12:31] <xperement> where can i found additional panel items?
[12:32] <cfhowlett> xperement, eh?  like what?
[12:33] <bgardner> xperement: Try: apt-cache search xfce4 | grep panel
[12:35] <xperement> thanks
[12:37] <xperement> this distro eats less then my android 4 on the phone
[12:37] <bgardner> xperement: Here's a better way to see the same info: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/start
[12:43] <MtDewFella> I gots a problem with xubuntu 13.10 after an update I did
[12:44] <MtDewFella> it's small but that cool new wallpaper that came with the new release has disappeared and I can't seam to get it back
[12:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> disappeared?
[12:45] <xperement> search xubuntu-wallpaper.prg
[12:45] <MtDewFella> yup replaced by a grey background,
[12:46] <MtDewFella> search google or the file system?
[12:46] <xperement> file system
[12:46] <Poisoned_Dragon> did you right click the desktop and select Desktop Settings, to see if the pic shows up in the backdrop list?
[12:46] <MtDewFella> yes first thing I tried
[12:47] <Poisoned_Dragon> What was the background?
[12:47] <MtDewFella> the search app brought back no files found
[12:47] <bosnjak> what manages mounting of my partitions? Some of them are not in fstab but i see them in Thunar, and when i click them, they mount.... What is doing this exactly?
[12:48] <Poisoned_Dragon> gvfs-mount
[12:48] <MtDewFella> it was the new blue wall paper that came with xubuntu 13.10 the one will little square patterns towards the bottom
[12:49] <MtDewFella> better question does anyone know where the system wallpapers are stored?
[12:49] <baizon> MtDewFella: http://docs.xubuntu.org/1304/guide-desktop.html
[12:49] <bosnjak> Poisoned_Dragon: how do i mount a partition under a different name?
[12:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops
[12:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> A different name?
[12:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> Please elaborate.
[12:52] <MtDewFella> thanks that did it
[12:52] <bosnjak> Poisoned_Dragon: the label of the partition is "Data" but its location mount is: /media/user/35395d04-4025-4db3-9449-eed1fafa4a9f/ -> how do i change this to something more human friendly?
[12:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> Is that the UUID?
[12:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> My drives don't mount with the UUID as the name. How strange.
[12:55] <bosnjak> Poisoned_Dragon: yes, that seems to be uuid
[12:55] <bosnjak> Poisoned_Dragon: i am confused now with gvfs-mount vs mount vs fstab
[12:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, gvfs-mount is actually stupid simple. It does the heavy work for you, in regards to making folders and mounting drives to them.
[12:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, if you wanted to mount a usb drive that you just attached you would type: gvfs-mount -d /dev/sdc1
[12:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> -d tells it to mount by device, sdc1 is the first partition of the usb.
[12:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> It'll make the folder in /media/user and mount it.
[12:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> Usually by name of the volume. But, it's using the UUID as if the label doesn't exist.
[12:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> If you want to unmount it's: gvfs-mount -u /media/user/mounted_folder.
[12:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> Poof! the volume is unmounted
[12:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's so awesome. :)
[12:59] <DJJeff> I setup public/private key auth on my SSH server
[12:59] <DJJeff> how do I use Thunar to connect?
[13:00] <baizon> DJJeff: http://askubuntu.com/questions/70423/how-do-i-connect-to-a-server-with-thunar-in-xubuntu
[13:00] <bosnjak> Poisoned_Dragon: thanks for the explanation
[13:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> np, point is, that's what thunar is doing.
[13:01] <DJJeff> baizon, that does not work I am not using password auth on my SSH
[13:01] <tcsorrel> hello,
[13:01] <bosnjak> Poisoned_Dragon: i see, thats why it automatically shows my partition in the Devices section on the left
[13:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> Maybe you should relabel it while it's mounted. Then the label might take
[13:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh wait...
[13:01] <tcsorrel> I am facing an issue when launching sypder
[13:02] <tcsorrel> spyder
[13:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> Not while it's mounted.... I use gparted to unmount and alter labels.
[13:02] <bosnjak> Poisoned_Dragon: I have created a label but it didn't change anything until i unmount/mount again. Now the folders are named by the labels
[13:02] <bosnjak> Poisoned_Dragon: yes, it shouldn't be done while mounter
[13:02] <tcsorrel> anybody tried to launch Spyder on xubuntu13.10 ?
[13:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, everything good now, bosnjak?
[13:03] <bosnjak> Poisoned_Dragon: yes :) thank you for quick and clear clarification :)
[13:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> No problem
[13:06] <DJJeff> when is PULSEAUDIO gonna be fixed for skype in ubuntu
[13:06] <DJJeff> typing $ PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=60 skype
[13:06] <cfhowlett> DJJeff, no deadline has been stated
[13:06] <DJJeff> is getting lame
[13:07] <knome> DJJeff, patches are welcome
[13:08] <DJJeff> screw patches lol
[13:08] <knome> DJJeff, ok, first, watch your language, and second, getting lame you're not sending a patch
[13:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> I have no probs with skype and pulse audio
[13:08] <DJJeff> it worked just fine before pulseaudio updated
[13:09] <DJJeff> after pulseaudio updated had todo $ PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=60 skype
[13:09] <DJJeff> Poisoned_Dragon, you are of the lucky few
[13:09] <Poisoned_Dragon> No, I used a fix
[13:10] <DJJeff> why did you use a fix
[13:10] <DJJeff> upload your fix to the upstream
[13:10] <DJJeff> so we can all be fixed
[13:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> Edit /etc/pulse/default.pa using your favorite text editor
[13:10] <cfhowlett> Poisoned_Dragon, so logical!
[13:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> At the end of this line "load-module module-udev-detect use_ucm=0" add "tsched=0"
[13:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> then reboot
[13:11] <DJJeff> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype
[13:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> Or, if you're savvy, restart alsa
[13:11] <DJJeff> add the fix to the repo
[13:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> I would just reboot
[13:11] <knome> DJJeff, please.
[13:12] <knome> DJJeff, if it's so important to you, why don't you do that yourself?
[13:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> Even if it was something to add, it's not skype's fault.
[13:12] <DJJeff> cause it will break each time pulseaudio is updated
[13:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> It was pulseaudio writing over default.pa
[13:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> Just add tsched=0 back to it
[13:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> That's what I did after upgrading 13.04 to 13.10.
[13:17] <DJJeff> after microsoft bought skype
[13:18] <DJJeff> it turned to crap anyways
[13:18] <knome> DJJeff, last warning; watch the attitude.
[13:18] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then, don't use skype. :P
[13:18] <cfhowlett> !skype|DJJeff,
[13:19] <cfhowlett> DJJeff, for real.  use it, don't use, use an alternative.  rants/complaints are not the goal here.
[13:19] <DJJeff> if skype is not broken its pulseaudio fault if pulseaudio is not broken its skype fault
[13:19] <DJJeff> they cant make up their mind
[13:19] <Poisoned_Dragon> Hell, you don't even need the skype client if you have a Live/Hotmail/Outlook account.
[13:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> Outlook.com integrated skype contacts.
[13:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> You can even make skype calls.
[13:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> All in your browser
[13:20] <DJJeff> Poisoned_Dragon, you must work for microsoft
[13:20] <DJJeff> if you <3 it so much
[13:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> No, I just do't come here and complain about things I don't fully understand. :P
[13:21] <cfhowlett> DJJeff, ok now you're just being petulant.  Do you have an actual support question?  if not: #ubuntu-offtopic.  Please.
[13:21] <DJJeff> getting mixed messages from both pulseaudio and skype
[13:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> Ooo...Petulant is a nifty word
[13:22] <cfhowlett> :)  thesaurus is not a dinosaur ...
[13:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> tee hee
[13:25] <knome> hmph,
[13:26] <koegs> oh boy and i thought, i would become an op :D
[13:26] <knome> :)
[13:27] <baizon> hehe
[13:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> lol
[13:27] <cfhowlett> I wouldn't have the patience.  My inner Samuel L. Jackson is only JUST restrained as it is.
[13:31] <juken> For some reason my laptop (plugged into my monitor over HDMI) has the monitor set as the default audio output. How can I go about disabling the HDMI audio completely and having the laptop speakers be the default audio?
[13:32] <Poisoned_Dragon> You shouln't need to disable hdmi. Just select the onboard sound as the default, in the pulse audio mixer.
[13:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> click on the speaker icon, then "Sound Settings"
[13:33] <juken> Yep, I'm in Volume Control. Just looking for how to make it the primary.
[13:34] <Poisoned_Dragon> Click on the check mark next to the sound device you want to use
[13:34] <Poisoned_Dragon> Under the tab, "Output Devices"
[13:35] <juken> Yep, I have it checked on the speakers... But I don't hear audio.
[13:35] <Poisoned_Dragon> is it muted?
[13:35] <juken> Nope, let me screenshot it
[13:36] <Poisoned_Dragon> cool
[13:36] <juken> Sounds like audio works in some places, but it's not working within Chrome
[13:37] <GridCube> juken, while you play a stream, you go to pavucontrol and choose to wich output you want that particular stream to go
[13:37] <Poisoned_Dragon> close and reload chrome. for fun and profit
[13:37] <juken> Poisoned_Dragon: tried that :)
[13:37] <juken> GridCube: I'll try
[13:38] <juken> GridCube: that did it
[13:38] <GridCube> you can choose to have different programs at the same time one streaming sound to hdmi and th other to analog
[13:38] <juken> Thanks guys
[13:38] <Poisoned_Dragon> no prob
[13:38] <Poisoned_Dragon> Thanks, GridCube.
[13:38] <GridCube> :)
[13:38] <Poisoned_Dragon> I actually didn't know that, myself. I thought it would just migrate on it's own.
[13:38] <GridCube> no
[13:39] <GridCube> it shouldnt
[14:29] <brauleinchen> hi
[14:30]  * Poisoned_Dragon waves violently.
[14:30] <brauleinchen> I just upgraded to 13.10 64 bits and I cannot play any sound. Alsamixer shows everything right, but the regular sound icon doesnt work
[14:30] <brauleinchen> any tips are welcomed
[14:30] <Myrtti> so how's your pulseaudio doing then?
[14:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> hold on, I got ya
[14:31] <Myrtti> alsamixer isn't the only thing between you hearing sound and the computer attempting to make the sound
[14:31] <brauleinchen> Myrtti, is that command line?
[14:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> brauleinchen, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204
[14:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> Read comment #5
[14:31] <baizon> brauleinchen: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/xubuntu-1310-sound-indicator-fix.html
[14:32] <Poisoned_Dragon> I was first. lol
[14:32] <Poisoned_Dragon> And ubottu likes my link more
[14:32] <baizon> :(
[14:33] <brauleinchen> very weird, sound just works now, its just that the icon doestn reflect that
[14:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, fix the icon with the advice above.
[14:34] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then, all will be well.
[14:40] <aicasn> do all guest installs via kvm take forever to partition space?
[15:41] <xubuntu356> Hello..
[15:43] <xubuntu356> who could help me? i have a problem with my xubuntu laptop and i can`t find a solution..
[15:45] <baizon> !ask | xubuntu356
[15:46] <xubuntu356> ok, i have installed xubuntu (last version)-everything ok.. but then i reboot the laptop and it doesn`t show to boot list..
[15:47] <xubuntu356> what should i do?
[15:47] <baizon> xubuntu356: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot-time-on-a-single-boot-system-not-dual-boot
[15:48] <xubuntu356> ok, i will be back..
[15:57] <xperement> лол
[15:57] <xperement> внимание вопрос
[15:58] <xperement> sorry
[16:09] <Xubuntu00> i have installed xubuntu (in multiboot with win), but it doesn`t appear to the boot list, only win, what should i do??
[16:11] <zukeprime> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:12] <Xubuntu00> thx, i will try
[16:20] <Xubuntu00> God bless you! :)
[17:18] <trevnorris> using saucy, 3.11.0-12-generic, perf list isn't showing any tracepoint events. is there another package that I need to install?
[19:04] <mikodo> Hey Everyone. Any news on Xubuntu 14.04? Are the plans for it to be on XMir? How long will LTS be? 3 Years again? ... Thanks.
[19:04] <TheSheep> !lts | mikodo
[19:05] <mikodo> TheSheep, Thanks. I was hoping to see LTS increased to 5 years. Oh, well.
[19:06] <TheSheep> mikodo: this is the user support channel, and we are mostly just users helping each other, try #xubuntu-dev if you want to talk about development of xubuntu
[19:09] <mikodo> TheSheep, I'm back. Thanks for the tips.
[19:15] <volsus> hey
[19:19] <mikodo> Ahh! It's #xubuntu-devel
[19:20] <volsus> is it?
[19:20] <volsus> looks rather like #xubuntu
[19:21] <mikodo> volsus, hey
[19:21] <volsus> hey
[19:22] <volsus> what's ^?
[19:24] <elfy> volsus: another channel - the development one
[19:25] <volsus> yeah, I know, guess I miss'd part of the convo
[19:25] <volsus> -_--
[19:26] <TheSheep> mikodo: ah, sorry
[19:36] <volsus> where should I look in the documentation to fix the following problem: when I upgraded to the new version of X(ubuntu) I lost my ability to adjust the volume on the top bar, and now I've lost the ability to adjust it with hotkeys (fn + f10 thry f12 on my netbook). Ideas? :>
[20:06] <dro> hi everybody
[20:09] <volsus> hey dro
[20:09] <volsus> guten tag
[20:09] <dro> I come here today because something strange happened with xfce-themes-manager, I think this program is not really compatible with xubuntu 13.10. I just tried to change the theme, and a lot of errors poped up. Now, my main screen (of my dual screen set) have a strange color, but only the wallpaper.Everything else works fine!
[20:09] <dro> guten tag
[20:09] <dro> but i'm french actualy :)
[20:09] <volsus> salut
[20:09] <dro> salut !
[20:09] <volsus> I am a complete newbie, trying to learn things and fix problems here myself
[20:10] <dro> I tried too, but now, i'm afraid to do more shit :/
[20:10] <volsus> so I can't offer any suggestions myself unfortunate; desolee mon ami
[20:10] <dro> aucun probeme, merci quand même / no problem, thanks anyway !
[20:10] <volsus> though maybe someone will come along who can help you
[20:10] <volsus> a lot of Americans are at work
[20:11] <dro> I hope so! And maybe someone can simply help me to restore my default theme easily ?
[20:11] <dro> volsus, yeah, you're right...
[20:12] <volsus> as an aside, I can't wait to visit France next year
[20:12] <dro> I left france for germany, but france is a great country, al least it's beautifu there
[20:12] <dro> where are u from ?
[20:12] <volsus> might be a discussion more appropriate for #xubuntu-offtopic though
[20:13] <bgardner> volsus: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204
[20:13] <volsus> thanks bgardner
[20:13] <volsus> :)
[20:13] <volsus> I am from outside of Washington, D.C.
[20:14] <dro> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/xubuntu-1310-sound-indicator-fix.html
[20:14] <volsus> but I live in Portland, OR
[20:14] <dro> okay :)
[20:33] <volsus> it fixed it! :) thanks a lot
[20:36] <Makdaam> hello
[20:37] <KeyboardNotFound> My xubuntu after upgrading is not ok, i can't listen youtube, but i can listen skype, every time when i start chrome i have message to choose default browser
[20:37] <KeyboardNotFound> every time when start skype i need to accept the agrements
[20:37] <KeyboardNotFound> ...
[20:38] <KeyboardNotFound> please me
[20:38] <KeyboardNotFound> help me*
[20:44] <TheSheep> KeyboardNotFound: did you maybe run out of disk space for your home directory?
[21:13] <Makdaam> hmm, I'm constantly getting a checksum verification failure on grub-efi-amd64-signed1.9 on the alternate isos of 12.04 I'm downloading
[21:13] <Makdaam> is there a known problem with that?
[21:14] <haven> hi, i just clean installed 13.10 ubuntu studio but have problem with internet going out on me after anywhere between 5 minutes and 2 hours.  I don't have this problem with Win7, which is a dual boot on the same laptop.  I updated everything, so what else should I check to get to the bottom of my connection problem.
[21:14] <haven> internet still shows as connected, but neither Firefox nor Thunderbird connect.
[21:14] <haven> I did a dmesg, but don't know how to read the output.
[21:15] <Makdaam> haven: open a console and do "ping www.xubuntu.org"
[21:17] <haven> doing that right now.  just as an fyi, I have ubuntu studio , which uses the xfce desktop.
[21:17] <Makdaam> that shouldn't affect anything we do
[21:17] <haven> do you want me to cut and paste the printout?
[21:18] <Makdaam> just tell me if you get results with time=123 at the end
[21:18] <Makdaam> or Host unreachable
[21:18] <Makdaam> or some kind of other output
[21:19] <Unit193> Pinging xubuntu.org won't help if it's a DNS issue, though. :/
[21:19] <Makdaam> it will show us if it resolves the IP
[21:20] <haven> it's still continuing with lines usually alternating with time=111 or time=112 or something similar at the end.
[21:20] <Makdaam> ok
[21:21] <Makdaam> Ctrl+c to stop it
[21:21] <haven> done.
[21:21] <Makdaam> hmm
[21:21] <Makdaam> any mozilla experts?
[21:22] <Makdaam> haven: your network seems to be working fine, but your browser/mail client may have some kind of proxies configured
[21:22] <Makdaam> or something else misconfigured
[21:22] <Makdaam> or we might have been lucky if it goes out at times
[21:23] <TheSheep> Makdaam: or he's not having that problem right now
[21:23] <Makdaam> yup
[21:23] <TheSheep> right
[21:23] <Makdaam> haven: run the ping command
[21:23] <haven> just plain ping?
[21:23] <Makdaam> and check what happens with it when your internet connection breaks
[21:24] <Makdaam> ping www.ubuntu.com
[21:24] <haven> looks like I'm getting the same thing.
[21:24] <TheSheep> Makdaam: no bugs reported about grub-efi-amd64-signed1.9
[21:25] <haven> if firefox or tbird go down, theoretically xchat should still work if the problem is a mozilla problem, right?
[21:25] <Makdaam> i think there might be something wrong with the checksums on the newest 12.04 alternate... other than the integrity check it all works
[21:25] <Makdaam> haven: it might
[21:26] <TheSheep> Makdaam: well, report an issue then
[21:26] <Makdaam> TheSheep: let me finish the installation first :P
[21:26] <TheSheep> Makdaam: no, report it now, quickly, before it's too late! ;)
[21:27] <Makdaam> ok, is there a commandline tool to report problems with Xubuntu?
[21:27] <TheSheep> sure!
[21:27] <Makdaam> because the website looks terrible in w3m
[21:27] <TheSheep> !bugs
[21:29] <Makdaam> apport... nope, I'll wait
[21:29] <Makdaam> and the install failed :)
[21:29] <Makdaam> so the integrity check is fine
[21:34] <Makdaam> !mirrors
[21:35] <Makdaam> TheSheep: where can I find archival releases? like 12.04 instead of 12.04.3?
[21:36] <TheSheep> Makdaam: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[21:36] <Makdaam> nope
[21:36] <Makdaam> that's a symlink to 12.04.3
[21:37] <TheSheep> then I have no idea
[21:37] <TheSheep> wait
[21:37] <TheSheep> there is a link right there
[21:37] <TheSheep> "unsupported ubuntu images"
[21:37] <TheSheep> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[21:37] <Makdaam> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/xubuntu/releases/12.04.0/release/ looks ok too :)
[21:38] <TheSheep> see, a little reading can get you a long way!
[21:39] <Makdaam> googling
[21:39] <Makdaam> tl;dr just googled it :)
[21:40] <TheSheep> the link is right there, seriously
[21:46] <Makdaam> only if you read text above the file listing :)
[21:46] <Makdaam> not if you click on 12.04 right away because you've been downloading invalid images for the last 2hours from various mirrors
[22:28] <haven> okay, my browser has gone down.  are my messages still coming through here?
[22:28] <bekks> Yes.
[22:36] <havenonearth> okay, now it looks like I was disconnected and reconnected on IRC.  Are my messages still coming through?
[22:37] <haven> Okay, I was disconnected for a while and then reconnected on IRC.  Are my messages still coming through?
[22:38] <bekks> haven: You have been reconnected.
[22:41] <Poisoned_Dragon> We see you haven. You can stop having two nicks now.
[23:46] <sisterFister> I just installed xubuntu. When I boot it shows the xubuntu logo screen, but then goes to black screen command line. Anyone know what's going on ?
[23:47] <bekks> !nomodeset | sisterFister
[23:48] <sisterFister> ubottu: ty
[23:48] <sisterFister> bekks: ty