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sr20dettHello I was going through the tutorial for the currency converter, when I insert the code and run it...it says this          unity::action::ActionManager::ActionManager(QObject*): Could not determine application identifier. HUD will not work properly. Provide your application identifier in $APP_ID environment variable.01:27
blarochesr20dett: for the most part you can ignore that.  does the app run?01:27
sr20dettim running on the computer itself not a phone01:28
sr20dettno it does not run01:28
blarochethat likely isn't the reason its not running, it just means the app doesn't have HUD integration.  i've been meaning to look more into that myself, but haven't yet01:29
sr20dettI get a window that opens when I hit run but its like a transparent box.....or just empty box01:29
blarocheso, are there other messages or clues to the problem?01:29
blarochesec, letme go look at the tutorial01:30
sr20dettthank you01:31
blarocheas i look... sounds like a qml syntax error, any other messages?01:32
blarochecan you put your qml in http://paste.ubuntu.com/ ?01:33
sr20dettStarting /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlscene -I /home/kurt/Buntu-SDK/Currency -I /usr/bin -I /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml /home/kurt/Buntu-SDK/Currency/Currency.qml unity::action::ActionManager::ActionManager(QObject*): Could not determine application identifier. HUD will not work properly. Provide your application identifier in $APP_ID environment variable. /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlscene exited 01:34
sr20dettya I can do that01:34
sr20dettDo you need it in a certin format01:34
sr20dettummm I copied and pasted it from http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/tutorial/01:36
blarochelets try a known good example, and you do bzr branch lp:ubuntu-sdk-tutorials and run the getting-started/CurrencyConverter from that?01:37
sr20dettwhere do I do that?01:39
sr20dettis it on the dev site?01:39
blarochesudo apt-get install bzr01:39
blarochebzr branch lp:ubuntu-sdk-tutorials  -- will download the tutorial code repo to current directory01:39
sr20dettgottcha lol01:39
sr20detti have not heard of it01:40
blarocheno worries01:40
sr20dettits already at it's newest version......hmmm01:40
blarochelikely installed with sdk01:40
sr20dettim on ubuntu 13.1001:41
sr20detti have a nexus 7 2012 and 201301:41
sr20dettthe 12 has touch already the 2013 has multirom01:41
blarocheopen getting-started/CurrentyConverter/CurrentlyConverter.qmlproject in Qt Creator01:41
blarocherun it.  hopefully it runs01:42
sr20dettin open project?01:44
blarocheyea, file->open file or project01:44
sr20detti dont see it, I changed my default directory would that matter01:45
blarochedid bzr branch lp:ubuntu-sdk-tutorials grab the sources?01:46
sr20dettno i just checked the version sorry again doing it now01:47
* blaroche steps out for a few...01:51
sr20dettblaroche!!!!!01:57
sr20dettIt worked thank you!01:57
sr20detti feel dumb now haha02:02
blarochegreat :)  no worries02:02
blarocheso i'd just compare what works with what doesn't and hunt the problem ;)02:03
sr20dettno man.......you dont know haha02:04
sr20dettI didnt finish the code02:04
sr20dettlooking at it makes alot sense now02:04
blarochei made much the same mistakes at first..02:05
sr20dettthat same error came up so you were right for it not meaning much02:06
blarocheyea HUD support...  not needed but prolly good to do.  i don't know much about it myself yet02:07
sr20dettive taken some classes beginner C/C++ and a visual basic class....some web stuff as well, I use only linux but most classes I find are for windows of course.02:08
blarochea battle for another day02:08
blarocheQt has a lot of good general tutorials02:08
sr20dettreally need something to focuse on enough to finish02:08
blarochehttp://qt-project.org/02:08
sr20dettYa I see nokia started it and A few companies have been useing it02:09
sarnoldblaroche: hopefully useful to you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/ApplicationConfinement#Launching_applications02:09
sr20dettis it easy to use qt stuff from other platforms and make it run on ubuntu touch?02:09
sr20detteverything else youve done has been02:09
blarochesarnold: bookmarked!02:09
blarochethank you02:09
blarocheQt is cross platform fantastic02:11
blarocheqml api's may differ a bit, but most other stuff ports well02:12
sr20dettI think that link is a little bit above my head.....not thinking about security just yet haha bookmarked it for safe keeping02:16
sr20dettblaroche: does it matter that the app plays great and looks great but the design tab looks pretty bad03:08
blarochegenerally no.  the design usaually is dependent on many variable that may or may not be set03:13
blarochei actually don't use it often.  so i may not be the best judge of it03:14
sr20dettwhen running an application on the phone under the ubuntu sdk does the app have to be saved into the phone?04:35
sr20dett[00:31:34] sed: can't read /home/phablet/dev_tmp/CurrencyConverter/CurrencyConverter.desktop: No such file or directory         --------Got this error when I tried to run the currency app that I know my computer runs04:35
sr20dettare there any other tutorials that run out of the box like the bzr ubuntu-sdk-tutorials?04:57
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Samhain! :-D09:07
aquariuspopey, you did ken's review?10:18
popeyyes10:19
popeyjust now10:19
aquariusI'm not hassling you for it; just a little disappointed that some of your compatriots didn't step in and do it while you were asleep. you sem to do all the reviews :)10:19
popeyi think it's the usual sweet spot of dead time in the world10:20
aquariusyeah, probably: night here, evening in the US, and no reviewers in, say, indonesia10:20
popeyI mean, 2AM UK, europe are sleeping, it's way past EOD for the western colonies too10:20
popeyexactly10:20
aquariusquestion: is the plan really that manual review will entirely go away once the click-reviewers-tools are a bit more detailed, or will there always be a manual approval step?10:21
popeyaquarius: i believe we want to get rid of the manual step altogether10:27
aquariuscool.10:27
aquariusalso, I think that upgrading apps doesn't work. Every time I upgrade an app it whitescreens on starting it, but if I remove the app and reinstall it it works :(10:28
aquariusI am not running trusty, though, so this may have been fixed.10:28
popeyhow are you starting it?10:32
popeyI suspect the dash doesn't update on upgrade and your dash points to the previous release still10:33
popeyand the white screen is qmlscene trying to run a non-existent qml file10:33
aquariusaah10:36
aquariusthat could well be it10:36
aquariussame error that you discovered with pinned launcher icons?10:36
aquariusthe dash needs a kick in the rounds, then :)10:37
popeyyes10:44
popeybug 124589010:45
ubot2Launchpad bug 1245890 in Unity 8 "Pinning to launcher followed by upgrade, breaks pinned app link" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124589010:45
popeymaybe leave a comment / confirm on that10:45
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popeystill getting a fair number of desktop apps submitted to the touch store11:47
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failDevHey i've a question can anybody help me?14:34
ogra_how would anybody know ?14:34
ogra_:)14:34
ogra_(read that as: ask your question and we might know if we can answer it ;) )14:36
failDevmy problem is that i've runned a virtual machine with ubuntu and i want to develope an app but i only see a black window and the message "unrecognized OpenGL version" appears14:36
failDevand sorry about my bad english :)14:36
popeyfailDev: known bug in qt14:41
ogra_sounds like you are missing graphics drivers for the VM14:41
popeyhttps://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-3222514:41
ogra_or what popey said :P14:41
popeyQSG_RENDER_LOOP=basic qmlscene app.qml14:41
failDevokey thanks :)14:41
popeydo that to run your app until qt fix teh bug14:41
popeywell, its fixed, but upstream.. so until we get the fix14:42
* popey hugs Mirv 14:42
failDevsorry but i'm to silly :D where should i write this?14:43
popeyopen a terminal inside the vm14:44
popeynavigate to teh directory containing your qml app14:44
popeyexport QSG_RENDER_LOOP=basic14:45
popeyqmlscene your_app.qml14:45
popeywhatever your app is called14:45
failDevdon't works anywhere it only comes a black window14:48
failDevahh now it works!!!14:49
ogra_\o/14:50
failDevi did the LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 and it works14:50
failDevthanks a lot! :)14:50
failDevbut when i run it in the qt creator it don't works :D14:52
failDevomg i'm a real noob14:53
popeyfailDev: nah, I'd expect it to fail in qtcreator14:55
popeymaybe launch qtcreator from the terminal where you set those environment variables?14:56
failDevno anaywehre14:58
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randomcppnik90, I saw your initiative, torico, too bad I can't at the moment help as a developer :(18:05
mrqtroslisette, hi, are you here? :)18:53
derEremitHi, know what would be an incedible feature for me:20:18
derEremitusing a subsonic server as a backend20:19
derEremitcould this theoretically be done?20:19
derEremitsorry wrong channel20:20
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