=== Pici is now known as TalkingMuffin [01:27] Hello I was going through the tutorial for the currency converter, when I insert the code and run it...it says this unity::action::ActionManager::ActionManager(QObject*): Could not determine application identifier. HUD will not work properly. Provide your application identifier in $APP_ID environment variable. [01:27] sr20dett: for the most part you can ignore that. does the app run? [01:28] im running on the computer itself not a phone [01:28] no it does not run [01:29] that likely isn't the reason its not running, it just means the app doesn't have HUD integration. i've been meaning to look more into that myself, but haven't yet [01:29] I get a window that opens when I hit run but its like a transparent box.....or just empty box [01:29] so, are there other messages or clues to the problem? [01:30] sec, letme go look at the tutorial [01:31] thank you [01:32] as i look... sounds like a qml syntax error, any other messages? [01:33] can you put your qml in http://paste.ubuntu.com/ ? [01:34] Starting /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlscene -I /home/kurt/Buntu-SDK/Currency -I /usr/bin -I /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml /home/kurt/Buntu-SDK/Currency/Currency.qml unity::action::ActionManager::ActionManager(QObject*): Could not determine application identifier. HUD will not work properly. Provide your application identifier in $APP_ID environment variable. /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmlscene exited [01:34] ya I can do that [01:34] Do you need it in a certin format [01:36] ummm I copied and pasted it from http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/tutorial/ [01:37] lets try a known good example, and you do bzr branch lp:ubuntu-sdk-tutorials and run the getting-started/CurrencyConverter from that? [01:39] where do I do that? [01:39] is it on the dev site? [01:39] sudo apt-get install bzr [01:39] bzr branch lp:ubuntu-sdk-tutorials -- will download the tutorial code repo to current directory [01:39] gottcha lol [01:40] i have not heard of it [01:40] no worries [01:40] its already at it's newest version......hmmm [01:40] likely installed with sdk [01:41] im on ubuntu 13.10 [01:41] i have a nexus 7 2012 and 2013 [01:41] the 12 has touch already the 2013 has multirom [01:41] open getting-started/CurrentyConverter/CurrentlyConverter.qmlproject in Qt Creator [01:42] run it. hopefully it runs [01:44] in open project? [01:44] yea, file->open file or project [01:45] i dont see it, I changed my default directory would that matter [01:46] did bzr branch lp:ubuntu-sdk-tutorials grab the sources? [01:47] no i just checked the version sorry again doing it now [01:51] * blaroche steps out for a few... [01:57] blaroche!!!!! [01:57] It worked thank you! [02:02] i feel dumb now haha [02:02] great :) no worries [02:03] so i'd just compare what works with what doesn't and hunt the problem ;) [02:04] no man.......you dont know haha [02:04] I didnt finish the code [02:04] looking at it makes alot sense now [02:05] i made much the same mistakes at first.. [02:06] that same error came up so you were right for it not meaning much [02:07] yea HUD support... not needed but prolly good to do. i don't know much about it myself yet [02:08] ive taken some classes beginner C/C++ and a visual basic class....some web stuff as well, I use only linux but most classes I find are for windows of course. [02:08] a battle for another day [02:08] Qt has a lot of good general tutorials [02:08] really need something to focuse on enough to finish [02:08] http://qt-project.org/ [02:09] Ya I see nokia started it and A few companies have been useing it [02:09] blaroche: hopefully useful to you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/ApplicationConfinement#Launching_applications [02:09] is it easy to use qt stuff from other platforms and make it run on ubuntu touch? [02:09] everything else youve done has been [02:09] sarnold: bookmarked! [02:09] thank you [02:11] Qt is cross platform fantastic [02:12] qml api's may differ a bit, but most other stuff ports well [02:16] I think that link is a little bit above my head.....not thinking about security just yet haha bookmarked it for safe keeping [03:08] blaroche: does it matter that the app plays great and looks great but the design tab looks pretty bad [03:13] generally no. the design usaually is dependent on many variable that may or may not be set [03:14] i actually don't use it often. so i may not be the best judge of it [04:35] when running an application on the phone under the ubuntu sdk does the app have to be saved into the phone? [04:35] [00:31:34] sed: can't read /home/phablet/dev_tmp/CurrencyConverter/CurrencyConverter.desktop: No such file or directory --------Got this error when I tried to run the currency app that I know my computer runs [04:57] are there any other tutorials that run out of the box like the bzr ubuntu-sdk-tutorials? [09:07] Good morning all; happy Samhain! :-D [10:18] popey, you did ken's review? [10:19] yes [10:19] just now [10:19] I'm not hassling you for it; just a little disappointed that some of your compatriots didn't step in and do it while you were asleep. you sem to do all the reviews :) [10:20] i think it's the usual sweet spot of dead time in the world [10:20] yeah, probably: night here, evening in the US, and no reviewers in, say, indonesia [10:20] I mean, 2AM UK, europe are sleeping, it's way past EOD for the western colonies too [10:20] exactly [10:21] question: is the plan really that manual review will entirely go away once the click-reviewers-tools are a bit more detailed, or will there always be a manual approval step? [10:27] aquarius: i believe we want to get rid of the manual step altogether [10:27] cool. [10:28] also, I think that upgrading apps doesn't work. Every time I upgrade an app it whitescreens on starting it, but if I remove the app and reinstall it it works :( [10:28] I am not running trusty, though, so this may have been fixed. [10:32] how are you starting it? [10:33] I suspect the dash doesn't update on upgrade and your dash points to the previous release still [10:33] and the white screen is qmlscene trying to run a non-existent qml file [10:36] aah [10:36] that could well be it [10:36] same error that you discovered with pinned launcher icons? [10:37] the dash needs a kick in the rounds, then :) [10:44] yes [10:45] bug 1245890 [10:45] Launchpad bug 1245890 in Unity 8 "Pinning to launcher followed by upgrade, breaks pinned app link" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1245890 [10:45] maybe leave a comment / confirm on that === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:47] still getting a fair number of desktop apps submitted to the touch store === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:34] Hey i've a question can anybody help me? [14:34] how would anybody know ? [14:34] :) [14:36] (read that as: ask your question and we might know if we can answer it ;) ) [14:36] my problem is that i've runned a virtual machine with ubuntu and i want to develope an app but i only see a black window and the message "unrecognized OpenGL version" appears [14:36] and sorry about my bad english :) [14:41] failDev: known bug in qt [14:41] sounds like you are missing graphics drivers for the VM [14:41] https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-32225 [14:41] or what popey said :P [14:41] QSG_RENDER_LOOP=basic qmlscene app.qml [14:41] okey thanks :) [14:41] do that to run your app until qt fix teh bug [14:42] well, its fixed, but upstream.. so until we get the fix [14:42] * popey hugs Mirv [14:43] sorry but i'm to silly :D where should i write this? [14:44] open a terminal inside the vm [14:44] navigate to teh directory containing your qml app [14:45] export QSG_RENDER_LOOP=basic [14:45] qmlscene your_app.qml [14:45] whatever your app is called [14:48] don't works anywhere it only comes a black window [14:49] ahh now it works!!! [14:50] \o/ [14:50] i did the LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 and it works [14:50] thanks a lot! :) [14:52] but when i run it in the qt creator it don't works :D [14:53] omg i'm a real noob [14:55] failDev: nah, I'd expect it to fail in qtcreator [14:56] maybe launch qtcreator from the terminal where you set those environment variables? [14:58] no anaywehre === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN [18:05] nik90, I saw your initiative, torico, too bad I can't at the moment help as a developer :( [18:53] lisette, hi, are you here? :) [20:18] Hi, know what would be an incedible feature for me: [20:19] using a subsonic server as a backend [20:19] could this theoretically be done? [20:20] sorry wrong channel === AlanChicken is now known as alanbell === alanbell is now known as AlanBell