[02:02] <fairuz> kohkoh pagi rakan2
[07:56] <biborn> nampaknya TM ni x block port 6666 n 6665
[07:59] <Romance> kene gitau TM suh block..byk komputer di malaysia ni dah jadi zombie botnet sbb suka guna software cetak rompak
[07:59] <Romance> TM igt botnet cuma guna port 6667 biborn 
[08:00] <biborn> lol
[08:00] <biborn> sapa la yg tanam trojan tu
[08:00] <Romance> mestila keje cracker..igt software crack tu selamat ke
[08:00] <Romance> igt dorg nak bagi free camtu hahahahahaha
[08:01] <Romance> bodo la
[08:01] <biborn> aku pon guna crack gak.. tp xde ape rasanya
[08:01] <Romance> mana nak tau hahaha
[08:01] <Romance> xkan la dia nak bagitau..mestila ayat manis ckp xde virus konon kat torrent
[08:01] <biborn> aku cek netstat aku ok je..
[08:02] <Romance> ntah bagusla kalo xde tapi mmg 99% botnet dtg dari software crack
[08:02] <Romance> so ko nasib baik kot
[08:04] <biborn> hahaha.. aku selalu cek dlu kat virustotal.. tp xleh percaya sgt gak..
[08:05] <Romance> software crack ape je ko guna biborn 
[08:05] <Romance> kalo stakat harga rm200 kebawah mustahil xmampu beli
[08:06] <Romance> lain la riban2 hahaha
[08:06] <biborn> adobe creative cloud n ms office 2013
[08:06] <biborn> mahal kot gila apa nak beli.. office tu je dah rm1000++
[08:06] <biborn> adobe x payah cerita la
[08:07] <biborn> lpas tu aku ada install 3ds max 2014
[08:07] <Romance> yeke jgn la beli 2013.. 2007 da la
[08:07] <biborn> setakat ni tu je la software crack aku guna
[08:07] <Romance> klo riban2 xpe la masih diterima akal
[08:07] <biborn> saja nak merasa Romance
[08:07] <Romance> ni IDM xsampai rm30 ringgit pun nak gune crack
[08:07] <biborn> mirc ni pon aku guna trial je
[08:08] <Romance> yela mirc versi 6 kebawah klo expired pn leh guner lg
[08:08] <biborn> hahaha malas nk guna xchat
[08:08] <biborn> selalu guna limechat je
[08:09] <biborn> mirc ni susah sikit aku nk baca kalau byk org tgh chat
[08:09] <Romance> sengkek btol la..app kat android tu ape la sgt $0.99 $1 ..kebanyakan bawah $10 pun nak gune crack
[08:09] <Romance> ye ke mirc la ok x kaler2 sgt..xpening
[08:09] <biborn> aku lg selesa dgn limechat.. dua kaler je
[08:10] <Romance> chatzilla pn ok
[08:10] <biborn> chatzilla bukan web based ke?
[08:11] <Romance> web based le tpi kalo buka internet x buka web browser..baik xya la online
[08:12] <biborn> hahaha aku serabut kalau tgh bukak byk2 browser kang nak tukar2 lak..
[08:12] <biborn> nak asingkan kat winodws lain malas
[08:12] <biborn> so aku guna jela standalone apps
[08:14] <excalibr> IDM tak sampai RM30?
[08:14] <excalibr> aku igt license dia dlm 20usd camtu
[08:16] <biborn> xpe excalibr.. block host file je.. setel..
[08:16] <Romance> yer la biborn tpi chatzilla tu bole kot letak kat toolbar so x ganggu sgt tabs tu
[08:16] <Romance> jgn ler mcm tu..it kills the industry
[08:16] <excalibr> biborn, ataupun guna software lain :P
[08:17] <biborn> excalibr rasanya xde software yg setara macam IDM.. yg mmg btol2 sebijik n mampu tandingi keselesaan menggunakan IDM.. just my 2 cents
[08:18] <Romance> software alternatif tu mostly cuma buat features yg selalu digunakan..org cuma guna 40% dari kelebihan IDM
[08:18] <Romance> mcm gak office..buat pe 2013 klo 2007 da memadai
[08:19] <biborn> well.. manusia x pernah puas.. =.="
[08:20] <Romance> bkn xpernah puas cuma dia xnak outdated tpi skill dan cara kerja tetap outdated
[08:20] <biborn> hahaha btol la tu
[08:21]  * excalibr tak pernah guna IDM cuma pernah tengok screenshot dia je
[08:23] <Romance> lepas tu beli kete 4WD tpi bawa kat highway..bole mmg bole tpi kelebihan 4WD ni utk lasak
[08:23] <Romance> hahahahaha
[08:24] <Romance> org skrg ni main pakai/beli je tpi xnak ambik tau advantage
[08:25] <excalibr> biborn, libre opis bukan ke dah cukup advanced?
[08:31] <biborn> hmm.. tp kat opis org pakai microsoft office.. so kalau guna libre, nanti org lain buka file tu pelik..
[08:31] <biborn> so terpaksa la
[08:33] <excalibr> opis mana tak reti-reti nak embrace open sos lagi ni?
[08:33] <excalibr> >:D
[08:34] <Romance> opis gomen skrg da mula ke upgrade ke win 7? sbb taun depan win XP da xda support
[08:37] <excalibr> err terbalik pulak opis gomen..gomen di negara lain sibuk nak migrate ke os gnu/linux dia sibuk nak upgrade windows
[08:38] <biborn> hmm diorang bukan xnk guna open source.. tp terpaksa guna MS office sbb dengan cara tu boleh bawak keluar duit.. kalau x guna apps berbayar susah la nak bawak keluar duit yg byk masuk poket..
[08:38] <biborn> dlu aku supply ms office kat gomen so diorang yg cite
[08:40] <excalibr> /tepuk dahi
[08:41] <biborn> hahaha gomen nak office sbb nak bawak keluar duit.. kami plak supply office crack sbb nak untung lebih.. last2 masuk court..
[08:41] <biborn> nasib baik aku cabut dlu
[08:42] <Romance> mcm kes byk projek KTW tu ler
[08:43] <Romance> berbulan2 xsiap..kontraktor lari
[08:43] <Romance> tu nk smbung siapkan..guna duit lg ambik konktraktor baru..aperla
[08:43] <Romance> duit abis camtue jer
[08:44] <Romance> ni fasa 2 utk HSBB rm2 billion bajet klo x improve gak..tepuk dahi ler
[08:54] <biborn> haha bukan la nie projek lain.. n projek ni siap tp last2 je kantoi.. jgn salahkan aku.. salahkan bos aku.. aku terpaksa
[09:03] <fairuz> helo2
[10:30] <biborn> megatuk plak..
[11:30] <excalibr> baru siap install 13.10~
[12:29] <umarzuki> ada bagus ka 13.10?
[12:30] <umarzuki> siapa dah pakai? kat model laptop/mobo mana?
[12:33] <umarzuki> ke tunggu 14.04 LTS?
[12:42] <excalibr> umarzuki, aku baru siap install 13.10 ni..panas-panas lagi huhu
[12:43] <angch> lts. always.
[12:45] <umarzuki> laptop kerja aku pasang LTS je
[12:46] <umarzuki> tu pun ada masalah juga nak detect projector, bikin malu saja sama participant training. cikgu buntu katenye
[12:47] <umarzuki> nasib baik ada spare laptop install 13.10 boleh auto tukar resolusion sesuai dgn projector
[12:47] <excalibr> angch, tangan gatal nak upgrade bila tengok ada newer software stack
[12:48] <umarzuki> siapa tau pengeluar laptop murah yg memang buat desktop & notebook ubuntu / mana2 linux?
[12:48] <angch> excalibr, backports. ppa. easy.
[12:48]  * excalibr rindu nak guna arch linux balik tapi tak sanggup nak berpisah dgn Unity
[12:48] <umarzuki> excalibr: gnome-shell taknak? :D
[12:48] <angch> umarzuki, dell xps, system 76
[12:50] <excalibr> umarzuki, dell kot..ada member dlm fb ubuntu.my hari tu beli dell inspiron RM1300, spec intel i3, 4gb ram, intel hd4000
[12:50] <umarzuki> thanks angch 
[12:50] <umarzuki> dulu aku ada baca pasal company lemote
[12:50] <umarzuki> bila aku tanya harga, 2 minggu baru reply email
[12:51] <excalibr> dang..hilang sorang pelanggan berpotensi
[12:51] <umarzuki> diorang partner dgn local company kat PRC buat CPU open architecture
[12:51] <umarzuki> longsoon klau tak silap nama CPU tu
[12:51] <umarzuki> pre-install debian
[12:51] <angch> umarzuki, oi. tu laptop yang rms endorse. heheheh
[12:52] <umarzuki> mahal gila harga
[12:52] <umarzuki> dekat seribu
[12:52] <umarzuki> spec macam laptop zaman 90-an
[12:52] <angch> Free speech bukan murah, heheheh
[12:52] <umarzuki> maybe awal 2000 la
[12:52] <umarzuki> mungkin kalau bawa 1 kontena murah la kot
[12:53] <excalibr> >spec mcm laptop zaman 90-an
[12:53] <excalibr> huh?
[12:53] <umarzuki> low spec la
[12:53] <excalibr> pentium II?
[12:53] <excalibr> kekeke
[12:54] <umarzuki> bukan, own made CPU kat PRC
[12:54] <umarzuki> uni sana bikin
[12:54] <umarzuki> company lemote ni jual
[12:54] <excalibr> mcm spec..raspberry pi ke
[12:55] <excalibr> 700Mhz, 512MB ram
[12:55] <umarzuki> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemote
[12:55] <umarzuki> 900 MHz
[12:55] <umarzuki> tu model 2011
[13:07] <excalibr> meh..spec camni nak buat apa erk
[13:07] <excalibr> hehe
[13:12] <umarzuki> quad core 900 MHz
[13:12] <umarzuki> mungkin text processing ok juga
[13:12] <umarzuki> game2 lama
[14:01] <excalibr> angch, lepas kita buat filter conf utk bagi daemon log ke file dia sendiri dlm /var/log, sepatutnya log message daemon tu takkan keluar dlm output dmesg dah kan?
[14:01] <angch> ?
[14:01] <angch> mirrored.
[14:01] <angch> dmesg != /var/log
[14:02] <excalibr> % cat /etc/rsyslog.d/10-iptables.conf 
[14:02] <excalibr> :msg, contains, "iptables: " /var/log/iptables.log
[14:02] <excalibr> & ~
[14:02] <excalibr> this is what i meant
[14:03] <biborn> ubuntu dah x seperti dulu
[14:03] <biborn> macam lagu tegar.. ubuntu yg dulu bukan lah yg sekarang
[14:03] <angch> rsyslog != dmesg
[14:05] <excalibr> i know..cuma pelik sebab seingat aku dulu lepas create filter tu tadi log message iptables tak pollute dmesg output
[14:05] <umarzuki> http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/322
[14:05] <umarzuki> ubuntu to the knee
[14:08] <angch> iirc you can't change apa yang kernel output ke dmesg
[14:08] <angch> ke kernel message ring.
[14:08] <angch> dmesg sendiri boleh filter out message
[14:29] <biborn> mengantuk la
[14:29] <biborn> hari2 aku mengantuk
[14:35] <excalibr> ko makan banyk sangat
[14:39] <fairuz> keke
[14:42] <fairuz> aku baru bantai durian tadi, pehh sedap sungguh
[14:49] <biborn> hahaha aku pon nampak ada org jual durian td kat depan icity.. dah macam xde musim plak durian nie tiap2 hari ada
[14:50] <biborn> excalibr: btol gak kot apa ko cakap.. td aku makan nasi goreng ayam lpas tu makan donut big apple plak sampai 6 ketul.. rasa muak dah skrg