[02:44] <hitsujiTMO> Welles_Lemuelson pm spamming from #ubuntu
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> I'm just reading backscroll from around 20:45 UTC.  The "no-idling" policy for this channel was put in place specifically because at the time we had a group of organized trolls that were monitoring this channel to figure out the best way to disrupt our operations, not even just to disrupt this channel.  Any user that ends up in this channel because they were referred here from #ubuntu, or even that we know who they are, quite ...
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> ... clearly does not fit the purpose of that policy.
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> So from that example, in determining "when does it make sense to apply X policy and when should it be ignored", it would probably be helpful if our various policies included some footnotes about their origins and intent.  (My mom's a legislator and a friend is a lawyer - I've heard a lot lately about going back to session transcripts to determine "legislative intent" when courts are interpreting laws, and it's sort of applicable ...
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> ... here too I think.)
[03:44] <Unit193> Some bitcoin OP stopped by to give a heads up, and back then they decided they didn't like the policy so much because it made sense to permit it, as it would be helpful and made sense.
[03:47] <tonyyarusso> AlanBell: Just got to your mention of a pre-meeting - you don't happen to have a Dilbert desk calendar, do you?
[03:53] <tonyyarusso> Hmm, should I be !away-ing TheGhostOfLjL?  :P
[03:54] <Unit193> No, just ghost him. ;)
[04:42] <IdleOne> disregard ^
[05:34] <IdleOne> RE: the open letter. A staff member did sign it.
[06:49] <ObrienDave> HEL Welles_Lemuelsom is spamming in PM again
[06:52] <ObrienDave> *HELP
[06:54] <ObrienDave> ~Welles@180.241.132.50
[07:01] <IdleOne> thank you ObrienDave
[07:02] <ObrienDave> thank you IdleOne
[11:59] <bazhang> goos fraba
[12:01] <bazhang> thats worthy of a @mark and not +q/+b imo
[12:05] <bazhang> that was horrific. HUGE earthquake just hit
[12:06] <ikonia> where ?
[12:17] <ikonia> hello howefield chattr can we help ?
[12:18] <howefield> no thank you, IO'm simply passing through after reading something on planet, is that ok ?
[12:18] <ikonia> well, the channel has a no idle policy unless something is needed,
[12:18] <howefield> I see
[12:18] <ikonia> if you need something or want to discuss something though, that's more than welcome
[12:19] <tsimpson> you can always read the logs if you're interested
[12:19] <howefield> thanks tsimpson
[12:19] <chattr> good morning. no help needed atm. I was just curious about conversations in this channel after reading http://tsimpson.ubottu.com/blog/archives/32 curious mostly about the how ops behave among themselves. I'm an op in another channel and frankly haven't had much experience in dealing with trouble
[12:21] <chattr> so, since I don't have a specific issue, I guess I should /quit. good luck.
[12:21] <Myrtti> uh... why /quit when you can /part
[12:21] <Myrtti> but oh well
[12:22] <tsimpson> howefield: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/10/30/%23ubuntu-ops.html#t18:48 and http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/10/31/%23ubuntu-ops.html fwiw
[12:22] <howefield> thanks again, that'll save me a search :)
[14:39] <h00k> I should catch up on this email thread.
[14:40] <Myrtti> I should probably read it again on Sunday
[14:43] <h00k> I read it, but was doing something else, so I wasn't able to give it the attention it needs
[15:12] <GAYLORD> sup niggers
[19:58] <bazhang> seems to be getting a bit offtopic in #ubuntu
[19:58] <bazhang> lmat/proligfacy
[20:00] <TheGhostOfLjL> profligacy is a mostly-troll in ##english, not that it matters, but just saying
[20:02] <bazhang> worse in #defocus
[20:04] <genii-o-lantern> I don't hand in either of those channels, so all i have to go on is how they are behaving in the ones I *am* in :)
[20:04] <genii-o-lantern> hand->hang
[20:05] <bazhang> yep
[20:05] <bazhang> and they were merely offtopic, no high crime in that
[20:05] <bazhang> YET
[20:40] <bazhang>  Soon I do chmod 777 / to open up everything, so all software can access everything.   <--- that sounds like a terrible idea
[20:41] <TalkingMuffin> Yeah, I saw that.  Was waiting to see if they'll follow it up with something.
[20:41] <bazhang> hating permissions does not seem to justify that