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| seb128 | infinity, bdmurray, slangasek: could somebody review the GTK update in the saucy SRU queue? | 01:23 |
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| Noskcaj | since Qt 5.2 should fix the powerpc issues, do you plan to make an ubuntu powerpc release for 14.04? | 05:47 |
| infinity | Noskcaj: It should? | 05:49 |
| infinity | They stopped using v8? | 05:49 |
| infinity | And actually use something portable? | 05:49 |
| Noskcaj | infinity, From what i understand, 5.2 will use a custom JS engine | 05:50 |
| infinity | Anyhow, qt5/v8 isn't the only concern for PPC desktop, the bigger one is if anyone would actually use it at all (I use a lot of PPC machines, and not a single one has a monitor, mouse, or keyboard...) | 05:50 |
| infinity | Noskcaj: Sure, but does "custom" mean "portable" and "runs on PowerPC"? :P | 05:50 |
| Noskcaj | I'm pretty sure it works for PPC, although i can't be sure till the release (mid-december) | 05:51 |
| infinity | Anyhow, if the desktop suddenly becomes buildable, runnable, and testable, I'm sure we can re-evaluate if it's worth reviving the ppc/desktop CD, but not much point talking about it before that. | 05:51 |
| Noskcaj | makes sense | 05:51 |
| infinity | 3D drivers are at least as large a concern. | 05:52 |
| infinity | The non-free drivers (obviously) don't work, as they're x86 binary blobs, and the radeon driver is known-broken on !x86. | 05:52 |
| infinity | nouveau, as far as I know, works fairly well, but that's less than half of the PPC desktop install base out there, I'd bet, since ATI was the default on all but the last PPC Macs. | 05:53 |
| xnox | please accept alsa-plugins-extra from trusty/new, it's a reupload of "alsa-plugins" to move libav into universe. This will also resolve libasound2-plugins-extra NBS. | 10:58 |
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| xnox | cjohnston: why is automake-1.14 not in ubuntu? | 15:49 |
| cjohnston | xnox: tab complete fail? | 15:50 |
| xnox | cjwatson: why is automake-1.14 not in ubuntu | 15:50 |
| cjwatson | because the new source replaces a binary from a source with Ubuntu modifications | 15:50 |
| cjwatson | needs manual resolution | 15:51 |
| xnox | cjohnston: i was about to, of course tab complete on automake fails, since 1.14 is not there =)))))) | 15:51 |
| xnox | cjwatson: ack. | 15:51 |
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| cyphermox | I'm noticing icu-devtools is broke, file conflicts with icu-tools (its old name) -- shouldn't britney be catching these things? is that skipped somehow for debian imports? | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | that's not catchable by proposed-migration, which only looks at the metadata - the problem here is precisely that the metadata was missing | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | xnox is working on that bug | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | and no, proposed-migration is certainly not skipped for Debian syncs :-) | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | bug 1246566 | 16:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1246566 in icu (Ubuntu) "package icu-devtools (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/sbin/gensprep', which is also in package icu-tools 4.8.1.1-12ubuntu2" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1246566 | 16:13 |
| mdeslaur | ah crud, what'd I break? | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | 15:10 <cjwatson> xnox: do you think you could sort icu? Debian did the multiarching with a slightly different package name to your multiarch patch last cycle, so I think we need an Ubuntu-specific patch to add breaks/replaces | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | 15:10 <cjwatson> and carry that until after trusty | 16:14 |
| mdeslaur | d'oh :( | 16:14 |
| cyphermox | alright then, I'll skip right to fixing ust then | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | right, that one's bug 1246620 | 16:15 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1246620 in ust (Ubuntu) "upgrade failed: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblttng-ust-tracepoint.so.0.0.0', which is also in package liblttng-ust0:amd64 2.1.1-6" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1246620 | 16:15 |
| cyphermox | ah, thanks! | 16:15 |
| xnox | bah, forgot to upload. uploaded now. | 16:18 |
| mdeslaur | thanks xnox for unborking icu | 16:18 |
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| cjwatson | "Not touching package as requested in bug 1246814 on Thu Oct 31 17:32:14 2013" | 18:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1246814 in haskell-src-exts (Ubuntu) "test block-proposed bug" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1246814 | 18:50 |
| cjwatson | good enough for now (ubuntu-devel-announce) | 18:50 |
| Laney | for /your/ uploads - is that enforced? | 18:52 |
| cjwatson | No, I meant to say - no access control right now but I'll add it if there's abuse | 18:53 |
| cjwatson | I don | 18:53 |
| cjwatson | 't expect it to be a major problem given that you can see it right there in excuses | 18:54 |
| Laney | Hmm, I expect that people will use it to block the uploads of others without thinking that there's a problem policy-wise | 18:55 |
| Laney | We'll see. Thanks for implementing | 18:55 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: so, cjwatson just sent an announcement about a new bug tag to use for blocking packages in $devel-proposed for proposed-migration ^^ ... I think we might want this same tag to feed into the pending-sru report | 18:57 |
| slangasek | even though we're not using proposed-migration there | 18:57 |
| kirkland | howdy! can someone accept promote lxc 1.0.0~alpha1-0ubuntu12 from proposed -> updates? the verification is "done" at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/1244301 (I've confirmed the fix too) | 18:58 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1244301 in lxc (Ubuntu Saucy) "lxc-attach stopped working for docker containers" [High,Fix committed] | 18:58 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: isn't that kind of implicit in it not being v-done yet? | 18:58 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: No, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/1242913 is still v-needed | 18:59 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1242913 in lxc (Ubuntu Saucy) "/dev/pts being created with mode=600 by Lxc" [High,Fix committed] | 18:59 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: And besides it's only 3 days old; usually uploads age for 7 days before going to -updates | 18:59 |
| cjwatson | (minimum) | 19:00 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: we are meant to be tracking new bugs filed against SRUs in -proposed; seems like it would be useful to use a consistent bug tag, particularly as people may cargo cult that tag anyway :) | 19:00 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: Oh, you mean when it has both saucy and trusty tasks | 19:01 |
| cjwatson | Yeah, maybe | 19:01 |
| slangasek | yes | 19:01 |
| infinity | I love how the subject line there reads as "(I'm) Temporarily blocking your uploads..." | 19:08 |
| cjwatson | Mwahaha | 19:09 |
| seb128 | bdmurray, infinity: ^ would be nice if somebody could review those empathy SRUs for precise and saucy, facebook did server side changes that make empathy unable to connect | 19:13 |
| infinity | seb128: Doesn't affect libpurple/pidgin? | 19:14 |
| infinity | Clearly not, I guess, since I'm still connected. | 19:14 |
| seb128 | infinity, I don't think so, empathy was just doing something wrong with libsoup | 19:14 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: okay, I'll have a look | 19:16 |
| infinity | seb128: Upload in progress for trusty, or hoping for a forward copy here so you can be lazy? | 19:16 |
| seb128 | infinity, I was going for the copy but I can upload if you prefer | 19:16 |
| seb128 | infinity, starting next week I switch in t-mode and will stop with copies | 19:17 |
| seb128 | infinity, thanks | 19:29 |
| seb128 | lunch time | 19:29 |
| seb128 | bbl | 19:29 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: aha! I missed the second bug associated with that upload; I just verified that fix too | 20:05 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: as for the 7 days, I'll ask docker's users on their mailing list to be patient | 20:05 |
| ogra_ | bah | 20:55 |
| ogra_ | cyphermox, dont tempt me ! | 20:55 |
| ogra_ | (my chromebook worked fine the last 6 months ... and now you upload that ! ... ) | 20:55 |
| * ogra_ tries to resist the urge to tinker ... and upgrade to trusty | 20:56 | |
| cyphermox | heheheh | 21:05 |
| cyphermox | ogra_: works on trusty... but not unity yet | 21:05 |
| cyphermox | let me figure out 3D first :) | 21:05 |
| cyphermox | that is, unless you can live with all the window decorations in xfce being garbld | 21:05 |
| ogra_ | nooo ! | 21:07 |
| ogra_ | i have working unity atm ... | 21:07 |
| ogra_ | despite half of the compositing stuff running in mesa (while the actual GLES bits run on the mali lib), it runs very well | 21:08 |
| ogra_ | thats why i didnt upgrae yet ... i cant remember how i got there and really dont want to break it | 21:09 |
| infinity | cyphermox: Erm, can I vomit and kick and scream over the part where these drivers ship the same binary and conflict with each other? | 21:09 |
| infinity | cyphermox: Why can't this be one driver that detects what it needs to do and picks the right paths? :/ | 21:10 |
| * ogra_ vanishes into the night again | 21:11 | |
| cyphermox | infinity: I didn't spend too much time looking at it, partly because I barely understand any of it | 21:11 |
| cyphermox | infinity: I was just trying to make it so that I could build it and scratch my itch, while hopefully not breaking the world for everybody else | 21:11 |
| cyphermox | I'm hoping I didn't do too much damage :) | 21:12 |
| infinity | cyphermox: Well, there's a complete lack of upgrade path here for people who previously had armsoc installed. | 21:14 |
| infinity | What hardware was that built for? | 21:15 |
| cyphermox | samsung chromebook, back then, afaik | 21:15 |
| cyphermox | so, yeah, doh | 21:15 |
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| cyphermox | (exynos0 | 21:15 |
| infinity | Yeah, looks like exynos. | 21:16 |
| infinity | So, you need to replace that one. And probably also provide a transitional package. | 21:16 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 21:16 |
| infinity | I'm going to reject your NEW binaries to avoid breakage. | 21:17 |
| cyphermox | thanks | 21:17 |
| infinity | So, versioned breaks/replaces from armsoc-exynos to armsoc, and then an empty armsoc that depends on armsoc-exynos. | 21:18 |
| infinity | That should make it look saner to me. | 21:18 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 21:22 |
| seb128 | infinity, bdmurray, slangasek: can we reduce a bit the SRU delay for the current saucy SRU of hud? It fixes the most common issues on e.u.c (seems it's currently segfaulting for most users) | 22:07 |
| infinity | seb128: Let me look. | 22:07 |
| slangasek | seb128: do you have a pointer to a current error bucket that shows it's not happening with the version in proposed? | 22:10 |
| infinity | Certainly looks safe enough. | 22:11 |
| seb128 | infinity, slangasek: https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/a0c6b9dc3bbefa98b1a31a88ed621b181b3a6fbe | 22:12 |
| seb128 | slangasek, ^ that seems to confirm it | 22:13 |
| infinity | seb128: Is someone working on https://launchpad.net/bugs/1237882 ? | 22:14 |
| ubot2 | infinity: Error: launchpad bug 1237882 not found | 22:14 |
| infinity | And working on making it not private. :P | 22:14 |
| seb128 | infinity, I was just checking with ted, it's fixed in 13.10 vcs, we are going to upload another SRU when the current one moves to updates | 22:15 |
| infinity | But yes, that bucket seems to shoe that the #1 crasher is fixed. | 22:15 |
| infinity | I'm happy to release it. | 22:15 |
| infinity | (done) | 22:15 |
| seb128 | great | 22:15 |
| seb128 | infinity, thanks! | 22:15 |
| cyphermox | infinity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6338329/ better? | 23:15 |
| infinity | cyphermox: xserver-xorg-video-armsoc-pl111 needs to break/replace armsoc as well, since it also ships overlapping files. | 23:47 |
| cyphermox | >.< | 23:47 |
| infinity | cyphermox: And xserver-xorg-video-armsoc-pl111 and xserver-xorg-video-armsoc-exynos don't need to Replace each other, the Conflict is enough. | 23:47 |
| infinity | Same for the debugs. | 23:48 |
| infinity | cyphermox: You could also transition armsoc-dbg, but I'm less picky about that, I suppose. | 23:49 |
| cyphermox | hmm | 23:49 |
| infinity | cyphermox: Should definitely have the break/replace mojo on the debugs, the transitional package probably less interesting, but no real harm in providing it. | 23:50 |
| cyphermox | there, done | 23:51 |
| cyphermox | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6338445/ | 23:51 |
| cyphermox | I know all of this, I just suck at applying it consistently :/ | 23:52 |
| infinity | cyphermox: That looks reasonable. | 23:55 |
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