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msdwhey am trying to download ubuntu for phones02:04
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theunleetis there like a milestone list or some sort of table that shows what works and does not work yet?03:30
pandatherHow would I go about flashing on a nakasi nexus 7 via arch?03:32
theunleethttps://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasi03:33
pandatherI mean flashing Ubuntu Touch to it.03:34
theunleethttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install03:35
pandatherIf I'm not mistaken that guide only works with Ubuntu, as Arch uses different package repositories.03:37
AlanOI have a Nexus 4 running with Ubuntu Touch 14.04 (r5) loaded. I have somehow managed to stop receiving OTA and the phone cannot conect to my PC via USD (ADB). Has anyone else run into this?03:47
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xenos1984i just flashed the newest ubuntu-system on my nexus 7 and now the screen starts flickering when i swipe from the left... any ideas what could be wrong? before that i flashed cdimage-touch a few weeks ago and it worked fine, now i fashed to the newest cdimage-touch and i get the same flickering as with ubuntu-system - is that a known problem?07:06
Ravi__hello07:23
Ravi__are u there07:24
xenos1984after flashing cdimage-touch again with -b the problems seems to be gone...07:28
xenos1984no, it isn't07:29
xenos1984ah, found the answer at http://askubuntu.com/questions/360341/on-ubuntu-touch-os-grouper-im-having-really-bad-screen-flicker07:57
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Samhain! :-D09:07
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davmor2Morning all11:03
davmor2ogra_: image 9 much better11:04
* ogra_ only tested calls and sms yet 11:04
ogra_still trying to nail down bug 124663011:04
ubot5bug 1246630 in ofono (Ubuntu) "can not recieve google SMS on german networks due to UTF8 conversion error" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124663011:04
ogra_the fun is ... searching for "rild utf8 sms" on google gets me pittis blog all over the first results page ...11:05
ogra_(promoting umockdev testing :P)11:05
xnoxogra_: can you do "$ cat /proc/mtd" on all devices that you have? (I have results for emulator & grouper, but not mako/maguro/mantra)11:07
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ogra_i doubt they have mtd devices ... but i can check11:08
ogra_(eMMC is the new MTD)11:08
xnoxogra_: =) if none of them have it, that's good, as I want to change which MTD partitons are mounted in the default init.rc.11:08
davmor2ogra_: just send a text to your own number it's what I do :)11:08
davmor2tests send and receive that way :)11:09
davmor2oh and reply from indicator11:09
ogra_davmor2, i do that from my right hand to the left :) ... but it doent help with the utf8 conversion error i get for google notifications11:09
ogra_(like i do a call from my right ear to the left ;)11:10
davmor2ogra_: yeah I do that on the house phone :D11:10
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RedPandaFoxnik90, thanks for your help with the contacts, I got it to work with the one use code from Google, I had spent weeks trying and had no solution online13:01
nik90RedPandaFox: u r welcome ;)13:05
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ulkesh_workGiven that there is a nightly (not stable) build of CM for the Galaxy Nexus 7 (2013) Wifi, called "flo", how foolhardy would it be to undertake an attempt at porting Ubuntu Touch to the Nexus 7 2013 (which has a snapdragon CPU, not an ARM)?  I'm interested in all opinions...thanks in advance!13:17
ogra_ARM is an architecture ... snapdragon is a model brand ...13:17
ulkesh_workfrom the CM site:  CPU:1.5 GHz quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro Krait 30013:18
ogra_(teh snapdragon is an ARM ... like a BMW is a car  as well as a Volkswagen is ;) )13:18
ulkesh_worki see13:18
ulkesh_workso then porting should be "easy" :)13:18
ogra_heh13:18
ogra_for some value of easy13:18
ogra_not harder than any other port for sure13:19
ogra_(any other that has AOSP support)13:19
ulkesh_workgood to know, thank you very much!13:19
ulkesh_worki was under the impression (from some other sites i've read) that the snapdragon was a different arch13:20
ulkesh_workah, i see from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip) that it is based on ARMv713:20
ogra_nope, its just a breand of the ARM SoCs that qualcomm builds13:20
ogra_*brand13:20
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ulkesh_workmajor thanks for the correction...now if i can't port it, it'll just be my stupidity and not going too far out of bounds on the target arch13:22
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sergiusensjjohansen, hey, I'm getting a bunch of these http://paste.ubuntu.com/6335953/ any idea?14:26
nathaneltitanehello :)14:38
popeyhi14:40
nathaneltitanequestion: I've had the occasion to switch to a nexus4: does installing ubuntu-touch on it provide the full desktop experience on mhl output now?14:42
ogra_no14:43
nathaneltitanebooooo14:43
ogra_thast still a jear out14:43
ogra_*year14:43
nathaneltitanetweaks?14:43
ogra_?14:43
nathaneltitaneworking on code tweaks and stability?14:43
ogra_13.10 was our initial release to get a stable foundation ...14:44
ogra_14.04 will result in a finished phone product14:44
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ogra_14.10 will get all the convergence love14:45
nathaneltitanehmm, interesting14:45
ogra_(dont forget that ubuntu touch only exists since 6 months)14:45
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ogra_(and is a completely new OS developed from scratch)14:45
nathaneltitanenoted14:46
ogra_i personally think ... comparing to android 1.0 ... that ubuntu is far better with its first release :)14:48
ogra_(and android took ~2 years to get to a 1.0 state)14:48
nathaneltitaneindeed, i've followed android eversince it first appeared in the catacombs of the online realm14:54
nathaneltitanethat is a very true statement14:54
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bfillerattente: ping16:02
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mterrygreyback, hello!  I was looking into using unity-system-compositor with our existing unity8, and I ran into an interesting issue that unity-mir currently owns com.canonical.Unity.Screen.  I believe in a USC world, that would move into USC, rather than the user's shell.  Do you know if there are other similar issues in unity-mir?16:54
greybackmterry: +1 on it being USC.16:55
greybackmterry: any and all hardware information that Mir can provide really belongs to USC I guess too16:55
greybackmterry: everything else is session specific: application list & OSK status16:56
mterrygreyback, is there any other hardware stuff that you happen to know if unity-mir does now?16:57
greybackmterry: nope, just Screen. Is needed for powerd I think16:58
mterrygreyback, yar.  OK, cool.  Thanks!16:58
greybackmterry: one question for you: is the lock-screen a session thing, or a system thing?16:59
mterrygreyback, the greeter will eventually run as the lightdm user in its own session16:59
mterrygreyback, so sort of both?16:59
greybackmterry: :D yay17:00
greybackok, I'll not worry about it for now17:00
mterrygreyback, I'm going to move the dbus-screen stuff into USC, and when we're ready to land it, we can coordinate dropping it from unity-mir17:00
greybackmterry: ack, sounds good to me17:01
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attentebfiller, hi17:20
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bfillerattente: we've got a bunch of the keyboard settings implemented now, wondering if we can add the UI back in to system settings17:20
attentebfiller, sure17:20
attentewhich ones are ready?17:20
bfillerattente: auto-caps, language selection and switching, predictive text is in process of working17:21
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attentebfiller, great, thanks!17:33
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fgintherogra_, sergiusens, do you know much about adb or know who might? We see a lot of our upstream merger makos and maguros fail to show up under adb after a flash.18:13
fgintherwe have to have them physically reset and they're fine again18:13
ogra_fginther, sergiusens has a bunch of pending fixes that should improve this18:14
cjohnstonogra_: for some reason it happens with the upstream merger devices alot more than the image testing devices18:15
fginthersergiusens, can I help get them merged?18:15
fgintherit also hits the magorus much more frequently then the makos18:16
sergiusensogra_, the phablet-tools ones? Those are all merged18:18
sergiusensfginther, cjohnston are they flashed the same way?18:19
sergiusensfginther, can I get some logs to look at?18:19
fginthersergiusens, sure18:19
sergiusensand are they all connected to the same box? The image tests and the merger ones18:20
sergiusens?18:20
fginthersergiusens, they are on different hosts18:20
fginthersergiusens, here's a flash job : http://10.97.0.26:8080/job/touch-flash-maguro-014E058C18015006/configure18:20
fginthersergiusens, here's one stuck right now: http://10.97.0.26:8080/job/touch-flash-maguro-0149A91D0D013014/103/console18:21
sergiusensfginther, no need to wait-for-device; when ubuntu-system is flashed there is a 'wait for unity8' in there18:22
fginthersergiusens, and another: http://10.97.0.26:8080/job/touch-flash-maguro-014E058C18015006/146/console18:22
sergiusensfginther, yeah installation taking to long.... can we get syslog and dmesg from the box?18:22
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carifdoes/will Touch support the nexus 5?19:15
Noskcajcarif, It will, but it will take some time19:17
carifNoskcaj, vg, ty19:17
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yoyo^hello19:28
yoyo^can anyone help me with somme advices about an xperia U19:29
szymon_wHi! don't know if this is right place to ask, but I'll try :) Is there somewhere documentation/tutorial on how to create truly convergence app for UT ? or maybe even examples ? I know Karma Machine ( the winner of Ubuntu appshowdown ) have this convergence nicely done but I can not find a source for this app ( it should be open source if I'm not mistaking as any app taking part in ubuntu appshowdown had to be open s19:51
szymon_wource ) Anyone can help ? ;>19:51
roger-2013any way to lock the screen on the latest image?19:55
roger-2013lock the phone, for security19:55
successussalud20:04
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Guest71081hello20:20
seepaogra_, can you give an update on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch/+bug/1237937 ?? it would be great if you could fix that bug. bug info is complete.20:33
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1237937 in initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch (Ubuntu) "data partition not found, missing device specific name" [Medium,Incomplete]20:33
cwaynestgraber, ping20:39
ptitepoulehi !20:39
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ptitepoulethere are not many phones Sony ..20:41
steve-oJust getting into Ubuntu Touch. I have it installed on a Nexus 4. Installed core apps but can't find emailclient on device.21:14
popeysteve-o: there is no email client on the device21:20
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steve-oUpdated  today. Noticing my ubuntu-emailclient-app file is only 82 bytes long. That's some pretty efficient coding.21:32
steve-opopey: Ok...just saw your msg. Thanks. I have read conflicting reports on whether it exists or not.21:33
popeywe're going to restart work on it this cycle21:33
steve-oCool...can I toss in some thoughts on design/notifications etc. or is it still too early for that?21:34
cyprushackshello gays21:34
cyprushacksi will ask something21:34
popeyyeah, bit early21:37
steve-oi come from a blackberry background and back in the day they had the best notifications BY FAR. New BBs don't.21:42
steve-oWould like Ubuntu Touch to pick up BB's slack someday.21:42
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nik90szymon_w: hmm I cannot find the source code either for karma machine22:11
nik90szymon_w: I am going to try to create a sample app with convergence to give it a shot myself22:11
nik90szymon_w: I would at one point need to do for the clock app anyways22:12
szymon_wnik90, I managed to dig this one out: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/+junk/convergence-view  mhall119 did it... but it would be cool to have official example code from canonical with short documentation...  so every app will use the same code pattern.22:16
nik90szymon_w: +122:20
nik90szymon_w: Have you looked at the sample code in the sdk documentation in qtcreator?22:20
* nik90 is looking at it now22:20
szymon_wnik90, I couldn’t find anything about converge in sdk documentation, maybe I missing something.22:24
nik90szymon_w: in qtcreator in the API tab, I see the convergence doc22:25
nik90szymon_w: it is called layouts22:25
nik90conditional layout, item layout etc22:25
szymon_wnik90, good find :)22:27
nik90szymon_w: :)22:29
cwaynestgraber, ping23:04
nik90Can anyone take a look at my code at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6338400/ and help me create a basic converged app?23:38
nik90It consists of 2 buttons which are presented as a column when in portrait mode (width < 50 units gu) and as a row in landscape mode (width > 50 units gu)23:39
nik90I have used the Ubuntu Layouts feature23:39
nik90zsombi ^^23:39
nik90szymon_w: ^^23:40
nik90I have a issue where when I go landscape mode, the buttons disappear23:41
nik90:(23:41
szymon_wnik90, this is what I got so far: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6338431/23:45
nik90szymon_w: hmm you do it quite differently from what I did23:49
nik90szymon_w: yours works but it seems like you basically create a new object for a particular size (phone or tablet)23:50
nik90while in the documentation, they create the objects only once and define the positioning and size inside the conditional layouts23:50
nik90which is what i tried to do and it doesn't work23:51
nik90I am not sure which one is efficient23:51
nik90I have a feeling that while your method works, we shouldnt be copying object definition such as Button{} and Page{} in each conditional layout23:52
nik90that would be too much duplicate code23:52
szymon_wnik90, I see what you mean... I tried to do it the way you are doing it and it didn't work for me too, this is why I tried this way and it kind of works.23:52
nik90szymon_w: I am going to check with the SDK devs, which there was a sample application23:52
nik90szymon_w: check out the latest bug in UITK23:53
nik90https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/124693023:53
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1246930 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "[layouts] layout change overwrites properties that need not change" [Undecided,New]23:53
szymon_wnik90, nice! it works, although when in landscape the buttons get resized too, is it as it should be ?23:57
nik90szymon_w: basically the current layouts is requiring you to explicitly mention the sizes in both layout conditions23:58
nik90otherwise the size is too small to be visible23:58
szymon_wnik90, k23:58

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