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msdw | hey am trying to download ubuntu for phones | 02:04 |
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RobbyF | nice | 02:04 |
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theunleet | is there like a milestone list or some sort of table that shows what works and does not work yet? | 03:30 |
pandather | How would I go about flashing on a nakasi nexus 7 via arch? | 03:32 |
theunleet | https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasi | 03:33 |
pandather | I mean flashing Ubuntu Touch to it. | 03:34 |
theunleet | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | 03:35 |
pandather | If I'm not mistaken that guide only works with Ubuntu, as Arch uses different package repositories. | 03:37 |
AlanO | I have a Nexus 4 running with Ubuntu Touch 14.04 (r5) loaded. I have somehow managed to stop receiving OTA and the phone cannot conect to my PC via USD (ADB). Has anyone else run into this? | 03:47 |
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xenos1984 | i just flashed the newest ubuntu-system on my nexus 7 and now the screen starts flickering when i swipe from the left... any ideas what could be wrong? before that i flashed cdimage-touch a few weeks ago and it worked fine, now i fashed to the newest cdimage-touch and i get the same flickering as with ubuntu-system - is that a known problem? | 07:06 |
Ravi__ | hello | 07:23 |
Ravi__ | are u there | 07:24 |
xenos1984 | after flashing cdimage-touch again with -b the problems seems to be gone... | 07:28 |
xenos1984 | no, it isn't | 07:29 |
xenos1984 | ah, found the answer at http://askubuntu.com/questions/360341/on-ubuntu-touch-os-grouper-im-having-really-bad-screen-flicker | 07:57 |
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JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Samhain! :-D | 09:07 |
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davmor2 | Morning all | 11:03 |
davmor2 | ogra_: image 9 much better | 11:04 |
* ogra_ only tested calls and sms yet | 11:04 | |
ogra_ | still trying to nail down bug 1246630 | 11:04 |
ubot5 | bug 1246630 in ofono (Ubuntu) "can not recieve google SMS on german networks due to UTF8 conversion error" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1246630 | 11:04 |
ogra_ | the fun is ... searching for "rild utf8 sms" on google gets me pittis blog all over the first results page ... | 11:05 |
ogra_ | (promoting umockdev testing :P) | 11:05 |
xnox | ogra_: can you do "$ cat /proc/mtd" on all devices that you have? (I have results for emulator & grouper, but not mako/maguro/mantra) | 11:07 |
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ogra_ | i doubt they have mtd devices ... but i can check | 11:08 |
ogra_ | (eMMC is the new MTD) | 11:08 |
xnox | ogra_: =) if none of them have it, that's good, as I want to change which MTD partitons are mounted in the default init.rc. | 11:08 |
davmor2 | ogra_: just send a text to your own number it's what I do :) | 11:08 |
davmor2 | tests send and receive that way :) | 11:09 |
davmor2 | oh and reply from indicator | 11:09 |
ogra_ | davmor2, i do that from my right hand to the left :) ... but it doent help with the utf8 conversion error i get for google notifications | 11:09 |
ogra_ | (like i do a call from my right ear to the left ;) | 11:10 |
davmor2 | ogra_: yeah I do that on the house phone :D | 11:10 |
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RedPandaFox | nik90, thanks for your help with the contacts, I got it to work with the one use code from Google, I had spent weeks trying and had no solution online | 13:01 |
nik90 | RedPandaFox: u r welcome ;) | 13:05 |
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ulkesh_work | Given that there is a nightly (not stable) build of CM for the Galaxy Nexus 7 (2013) Wifi, called "flo", how foolhardy would it be to undertake an attempt at porting Ubuntu Touch to the Nexus 7 2013 (which has a snapdragon CPU, not an ARM)? I'm interested in all opinions...thanks in advance! | 13:17 |
ogra_ | ARM is an architecture ... snapdragon is a model brand ... | 13:17 |
ulkesh_work | from the CM site: CPU:1.5 GHz quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro Krait 300 | 13:18 |
ogra_ | (teh snapdragon is an ARM ... like a BMW is a car as well as a Volkswagen is ;) ) | 13:18 |
ulkesh_work | i see | 13:18 |
ulkesh_work | so then porting should be "easy" :) | 13:18 |
ogra_ | heh | 13:18 |
ogra_ | for some value of easy | 13:18 |
ogra_ | not harder than any other port for sure | 13:19 |
ogra_ | (any other that has AOSP support) | 13:19 |
ulkesh_work | good to know, thank you very much! | 13:19 |
ulkesh_work | i was under the impression (from some other sites i've read) that the snapdragon was a different arch | 13:20 |
ulkesh_work | ah, i see from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip) that it is based on ARMv7 | 13:20 |
ogra_ | nope, its just a breand of the ARM SoCs that qualcomm builds | 13:20 |
ogra_ | *brand | 13:20 |
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ulkesh_work | major thanks for the correction...now if i can't port it, it'll just be my stupidity and not going too far out of bounds on the target arch | 13:22 |
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sergiusens | jjohansen, hey, I'm getting a bunch of these http://paste.ubuntu.com/6335953/ any idea? | 14:26 |
nathaneltitane | hello :) | 14:38 |
popey | hi | 14:40 |
nathaneltitane | question: I've had the occasion to switch to a nexus4: does installing ubuntu-touch on it provide the full desktop experience on mhl output now? | 14:42 |
ogra_ | no | 14:43 |
nathaneltitane | booooo | 14:43 |
ogra_ | thast still a jear out | 14:43 |
ogra_ | *year | 14:43 |
nathaneltitane | tweaks? | 14:43 |
ogra_ | ? | 14:43 |
nathaneltitane | working on code tweaks and stability? | 14:43 |
ogra_ | 13.10 was our initial release to get a stable foundation ... | 14:44 |
ogra_ | 14.04 will result in a finished phone product | 14:44 |
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ogra_ | 14.10 will get all the convergence love | 14:45 |
nathaneltitane | hmm, interesting | 14:45 |
ogra_ | (dont forget that ubuntu touch only exists since 6 months) | 14:45 |
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ogra_ | (and is a completely new OS developed from scratch) | 14:45 |
nathaneltitane | noted | 14:46 |
ogra_ | i personally think ... comparing to android 1.0 ... that ubuntu is far better with its first release :) | 14:48 |
ogra_ | (and android took ~2 years to get to a 1.0 state) | 14:48 |
nathaneltitane | indeed, i've followed android eversince it first appeared in the catacombs of the online realm | 14:54 |
nathaneltitane | that is a very true statement | 14:54 |
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bfiller | attente: ping | 16:02 |
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mterry | greyback, hello! I was looking into using unity-system-compositor with our existing unity8, and I ran into an interesting issue that unity-mir currently owns com.canonical.Unity.Screen. I believe in a USC world, that would move into USC, rather than the user's shell. Do you know if there are other similar issues in unity-mir? | 16:54 |
greyback | mterry: +1 on it being USC. | 16:55 |
greyback | mterry: any and all hardware information that Mir can provide really belongs to USC I guess too | 16:55 |
greyback | mterry: everything else is session specific: application list & OSK status | 16:56 |
mterry | greyback, is there any other hardware stuff that you happen to know if unity-mir does now? | 16:57 |
greyback | mterry: nope, just Screen. Is needed for powerd I think | 16:58 |
mterry | greyback, yar. OK, cool. Thanks! | 16:58 |
greyback | mterry: one question for you: is the lock-screen a session thing, or a system thing? | 16:59 |
mterry | greyback, the greeter will eventually run as the lightdm user in its own session | 16:59 |
mterry | greyback, so sort of both? | 16:59 |
greyback | mterry: :D yay | 17:00 |
greyback | ok, I'll not worry about it for now | 17:00 |
mterry | greyback, I'm going to move the dbus-screen stuff into USC, and when we're ready to land it, we can coordinate dropping it from unity-mir | 17:00 |
greyback | mterry: ack, sounds good to me | 17:01 |
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attente | bfiller, hi | 17:20 |
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bfiller | attente: we've got a bunch of the keyboard settings implemented now, wondering if we can add the UI back in to system settings | 17:20 |
attente | bfiller, sure | 17:20 |
attente | which ones are ready? | 17:20 |
bfiller | attente: auto-caps, language selection and switching, predictive text is in process of working | 17:21 |
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attente | bfiller, great, thanks! | 17:33 |
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fginther | ogra_, sergiusens, do you know much about adb or know who might? We see a lot of our upstream merger makos and maguros fail to show up under adb after a flash. | 18:13 |
fginther | we have to have them physically reset and they're fine again | 18:13 |
ogra_ | fginther, sergiusens has a bunch of pending fixes that should improve this | 18:14 |
cjohnston | ogra_: for some reason it happens with the upstream merger devices alot more than the image testing devices | 18:15 |
fginther | sergiusens, can I help get them merged? | 18:15 |
fginther | it also hits the magorus much more frequently then the makos | 18:16 |
sergiusens | ogra_, the phablet-tools ones? Those are all merged | 18:18 |
sergiusens | fginther, cjohnston are they flashed the same way? | 18:19 |
sergiusens | fginther, can I get some logs to look at? | 18:19 |
fginther | sergiusens, sure | 18:19 |
sergiusens | and are they all connected to the same box? The image tests and the merger ones | 18:20 |
sergiusens | ? | 18:20 |
fginther | sergiusens, they are on different hosts | 18:20 |
fginther | sergiusens, here's a flash job : http://10.97.0.26:8080/job/touch-flash-maguro-014E058C18015006/configure | 18:20 |
fginther | sergiusens, here's one stuck right now: http://10.97.0.26:8080/job/touch-flash-maguro-0149A91D0D013014/103/console | 18:21 |
sergiusens | fginther, no need to wait-for-device; when ubuntu-system is flashed there is a 'wait for unity8' in there | 18:22 |
fginther | sergiusens, and another: http://10.97.0.26:8080/job/touch-flash-maguro-014E058C18015006/146/console | 18:22 |
sergiusens | fginther, yeah installation taking to long.... can we get syslog and dmesg from the box? | 18:22 |
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carif | does/will Touch support the nexus 5? | 19:15 |
Noskcaj | carif, It will, but it will take some time | 19:17 |
carif | Noskcaj, vg, ty | 19:17 |
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yoyo^ | hello | 19:28 |
yoyo^ | can anyone help me with somme advices about an xperia U | 19:29 |
szymon_w | Hi! don't know if this is right place to ask, but I'll try :) Is there somewhere documentation/tutorial on how to create truly convergence app for UT ? or maybe even examples ? I know Karma Machine ( the winner of Ubuntu appshowdown ) have this convergence nicely done but I can not find a source for this app ( it should be open source if I'm not mistaking as any app taking part in ubuntu appshowdown had to be open s | 19:51 |
szymon_w | ource ) Anyone can help ? ;> | 19:51 |
roger-2013 | any way to lock the screen on the latest image? | 19:55 |
roger-2013 | lock the phone, for security | 19:55 |
successus | salud | 20:04 |
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Guest71081 | hello | 20:20 |
seepa | ogra_, can you give an update on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch/+bug/1237937 ?? it would be great if you could fix that bug. bug info is complete. | 20:33 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1237937 in initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch (Ubuntu) "data partition not found, missing device specific name" [Medium,Incomplete] | 20:33 |
cwayne | stgraber, ping | 20:39 |
ptitepoule | hi ! | 20:39 |
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ptitepoule | there are not many phones Sony .. | 20:41 |
steve-o | Just getting into Ubuntu Touch. I have it installed on a Nexus 4. Installed core apps but can't find emailclient on device. | 21:14 |
popey | steve-o: there is no email client on the device | 21:20 |
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steve-o | Updated today. Noticing my ubuntu-emailclient-app file is only 82 bytes long. That's some pretty efficient coding. | 21:32 |
steve-o | popey: Ok...just saw your msg. Thanks. I have read conflicting reports on whether it exists or not. | 21:33 |
popey | we're going to restart work on it this cycle | 21:33 |
steve-o | Cool...can I toss in some thoughts on design/notifications etc. or is it still too early for that? | 21:34 |
cyprushacks | hello gays | 21:34 |
cyprushacks | i will ask something | 21:34 |
popey | yeah, bit early | 21:37 |
steve-o | i come from a blackberry background and back in the day they had the best notifications BY FAR. New BBs don't. | 21:42 |
steve-o | Would like Ubuntu Touch to pick up BB's slack someday. | 21:42 |
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nik90 | szymon_w: hmm I cannot find the source code either for karma machine | 22:11 |
nik90 | szymon_w: I am going to try to create a sample app with convergence to give it a shot myself | 22:11 |
nik90 | szymon_w: I would at one point need to do for the clock app anyways | 22:12 |
szymon_w | nik90, I managed to dig this one out: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/+junk/convergence-view mhall119 did it... but it would be cool to have official example code from canonical with short documentation... so every app will use the same code pattern. | 22:16 |
nik90 | szymon_w: +1 | 22:20 |
nik90 | szymon_w: Have you looked at the sample code in the sdk documentation in qtcreator? | 22:20 |
* nik90 is looking at it now | 22:20 | |
szymon_w | nik90, I couldn’t find anything about converge in sdk documentation, maybe I missing something. | 22:24 |
nik90 | szymon_w: in qtcreator in the API tab, I see the convergence doc | 22:25 |
nik90 | szymon_w: it is called layouts | 22:25 |
nik90 | conditional layout, item layout etc | 22:25 |
szymon_w | nik90, good find :) | 22:27 |
nik90 | szymon_w: :) | 22:29 |
cwayne | stgraber, ping | 23:04 |
nik90 | Can anyone take a look at my code at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6338400/ and help me create a basic converged app? | 23:38 |
nik90 | It consists of 2 buttons which are presented as a column when in portrait mode (width < 50 units gu) and as a row in landscape mode (width > 50 units gu) | 23:39 |
nik90 | I have used the Ubuntu Layouts feature | 23:39 |
nik90 | zsombi ^^ | 23:39 |
nik90 | szymon_w: ^^ | 23:40 |
nik90 | I have a issue where when I go landscape mode, the buttons disappear | 23:41 |
nik90 | :( | 23:41 |
szymon_w | nik90, this is what I got so far: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6338431/ | 23:45 |
nik90 | szymon_w: hmm you do it quite differently from what I did | 23:49 |
nik90 | szymon_w: yours works but it seems like you basically create a new object for a particular size (phone or tablet) | 23:50 |
nik90 | while in the documentation, they create the objects only once and define the positioning and size inside the conditional layouts | 23:50 |
nik90 | which is what i tried to do and it doesn't work | 23:51 |
nik90 | I am not sure which one is efficient | 23:51 |
nik90 | I have a feeling that while your method works, we shouldnt be copying object definition such as Button{} and Page{} in each conditional layout | 23:52 |
nik90 | that would be too much duplicate code | 23:52 |
szymon_w | nik90, I see what you mean... I tried to do it the way you are doing it and it didn't work for me too, this is why I tried this way and it kind of works. | 23:52 |
nik90 | szymon_w: I am going to check with the SDK devs, which there was a sample application | 23:52 |
nik90 | szymon_w: check out the latest bug in UITK | 23:53 |
nik90 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1246930 | 23:53 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1246930 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "[layouts] layout change overwrites properties that need not change" [Undecided,New] | 23:53 |
szymon_w | nik90, nice! it works, although when in landscape the buttons get resized too, is it as it should be ? | 23:57 |
nik90 | szymon_w: basically the current layouts is requiring you to explicitly mention the sizes in both layout conditions | 23:58 |
nik90 | otherwise the size is too small to be visible | 23:58 |
szymon_w | nik90, k | 23:58 |
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