[02:04] <msdw> hey am trying to download ubuntu for phones
[02:04] <RobbyF> nice
[03:30] <theunleet> is there like a milestone list or some sort of table that shows what works and does not work yet?
[03:32] <pandather> How would I go about flashing on a nakasi nexus 7 via arch?
[03:33] <theunleet> https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#nakasi
[03:34] <pandather> I mean flashing Ubuntu Touch to it.
[03:35] <theunleet> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[03:37] <pandather> If I'm not mistaken that guide only works with Ubuntu, as Arch uses different package repositories.
[03:47] <AlanO> I have a Nexus 4 running with Ubuntu Touch 14.04 (r5) loaded. I have somehow managed to stop receiving OTA and the phone cannot conect to my PC via USD (ADB). Has anyone else run into this?
[07:06] <xenos1984> i just flashed the newest ubuntu-system on my nexus 7 and now the screen starts flickering when i swipe from the left... any ideas what could be wrong? before that i flashed cdimage-touch a few weeks ago and it worked fine, now i fashed to the newest cdimage-touch and i get the same flickering as with ubuntu-system - is that a known problem?
[07:23] <Ravi__> hello
[07:24] <Ravi__> are u there
[07:28] <xenos1984> after flashing cdimage-touch again with -b the problems seems to be gone...
[07:29] <xenos1984> no, it isn't
[07:57] <xenos1984> ah, found the answer at http://askubuntu.com/questions/360341/on-ubuntu-touch-os-grouper-im-having-really-bad-screen-flicker
[09:07] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Samhain! :-D
[11:03] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:04] <davmor2> ogra_: image 9 much better
[11:04]  * ogra_ only tested calls and sms yet 
[11:04] <ogra_> still trying to nail down bug 1246630
[11:05] <ogra_> the fun is ... searching for "rild utf8 sms" on google gets me pittis blog all over the first results page ...
[11:05] <ogra_> (promoting umockdev testing :P)
[11:07] <xnox> ogra_: can you do "$ cat /proc/mtd" on all devices that you have? (I have results for emulator & grouper, but not mako/maguro/mantra)
[11:08] <ogra_> i doubt they have mtd devices ... but i can check
[11:08] <ogra_> (eMMC is the new MTD)
[11:08] <xnox> ogra_: =) if none of them have it, that's good, as I want to change which MTD partitons are mounted in the default init.rc.
[11:08] <davmor2> ogra_: just send a text to your own number it's what I do :)
[11:09] <davmor2> tests send and receive that way :)
[11:09] <davmor2> oh and reply from indicator
[11:09] <ogra_> davmor2, i do that from my right hand to the left :) ... but it doent help with the utf8 conversion error i get for google notifications
[11:10] <ogra_> (like i do a call from my right ear to the left ;)
[11:10] <davmor2> ogra_: yeah I do that on the house phone :D
[13:01] <RedPandaFox> nik90, thanks for your help with the contacts, I got it to work with the one use code from Google, I had spent weeks trying and had no solution online
[13:05] <nik90> RedPandaFox: u r welcome ;)
[13:17] <ulkesh_work> Given that there is a nightly (not stable) build of CM for the Galaxy Nexus 7 (2013) Wifi, called "flo", how foolhardy would it be to undertake an attempt at porting Ubuntu Touch to the Nexus 7 2013 (which has a snapdragon CPU, not an ARM)?  I'm interested in all opinions...thanks in advance!
[13:17] <ogra_> ARM is an architecture ... snapdragon is a model brand ...
[13:18] <ulkesh_work> from the CM site:  CPU:	1.5 GHz quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro Krait 300
[13:18] <ogra_> (teh snapdragon is an ARM ... like a BMW is a car  as well as a Volkswagen is ;) )
[13:18] <ulkesh_work> i see
[13:18] <ulkesh_work> so then porting should be "easy" :)
[13:18] <ogra_> heh
[13:18] <ogra_> for some value of easy
[13:19] <ogra_> not harder than any other port for sure
[13:19] <ogra_> (any other that has AOSP support)
[13:19] <ulkesh_work> good to know, thank you very much!
[13:20] <ulkesh_work> i was under the impression (from some other sites i've read) that the snapdragon was a different arch
[13:20] <ulkesh_work> ah, i see from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip) that it is based on ARMv7
[13:20] <ogra_> nope, its just a breand of the ARM SoCs that qualcomm builds
[13:20] <ogra_> *brand
[13:22] <ulkesh_work> major thanks for the correction...now if i can't port it, it'll just be my stupidity and not going too far out of bounds on the target arch
[14:26] <sergiusens> jjohansen, hey, I'm getting a bunch of these http://paste.ubuntu.com/6335953/ any idea?
[14:38] <nathaneltitane> hello :)
[14:40] <popey> hi
[14:42] <nathaneltitane> question: I've had the occasion to switch to a nexus4: does installing ubuntu-touch on it provide the full desktop experience on mhl output now?
[14:43] <ogra_> no
[14:43] <nathaneltitane> booooo
[14:43] <ogra_> thast still a jear out
[14:43] <ogra_> *year
[14:43] <nathaneltitane> tweaks?
[14:43] <ogra_> ?
[14:43] <nathaneltitane> working on code tweaks and stability?
[14:44] <ogra_> 13.10 was our initial release to get a stable foundation ...
[14:44] <ogra_> 14.04 will result in a finished phone product
[14:45] <ogra_> 14.10 will get all the convergence love
[14:45] <nathaneltitane> hmm, interesting
[14:45] <ogra_> (dont forget that ubuntu touch only exists since 6 months)
[14:45] <ogra_> (and is a completely new OS developed from scratch)
[14:46] <nathaneltitane> noted
[14:48] <ogra_> i personally think ... comparing to android 1.0 ... that ubuntu is far better with its first release :)
[14:48] <ogra_> (and android took ~2 years to get to a 1.0 state)
[14:54] <nathaneltitane> indeed, i've followed android eversince it first appeared in the catacombs of the online realm
[14:54] <nathaneltitane> that is a very true statement
[16:02] <bfiller> attente: ping
[16:54] <mterry> greyback, hello!  I was looking into using unity-system-compositor with our existing unity8, and I ran into an interesting issue that unity-mir currently owns com.canonical.Unity.Screen.  I believe in a USC world, that would move into USC, rather than the user's shell.  Do you know if there are other similar issues in unity-mir?
[16:55] <greyback> mterry: +1 on it being USC.
[16:55] <greyback> mterry: any and all hardware information that Mir can provide really belongs to USC I guess too
[16:56] <greyback> mterry: everything else is session specific: application list & OSK status
[16:57] <mterry> greyback, is there any other hardware stuff that you happen to know if unity-mir does now?
[16:58] <greyback> mterry: nope, just Screen. Is needed for powerd I think
[16:58] <mterry> greyback, yar.  OK, cool.  Thanks!
[16:59] <greyback> mterry: one question for you: is the lock-screen a session thing, or a system thing?
[16:59] <mterry> greyback, the greeter will eventually run as the lightdm user in its own session
[16:59] <mterry> greyback, so sort of both?
[17:00] <greyback> mterry: :D yay
[17:00] <greyback> ok, I'll not worry about it for now
[17:00] <mterry> greyback, I'm going to move the dbus-screen stuff into USC, and when we're ready to land it, we can coordinate dropping it from unity-mir
[17:01] <greyback> mterry: ack, sounds good to me
[17:20] <attente> bfiller, hi
[17:20] <bfiller> attente: we've got a bunch of the keyboard settings implemented now, wondering if we can add the UI back in to system settings
[17:20] <attente> bfiller, sure
[17:20] <attente> which ones are ready?
[17:21] <bfiller> attente: auto-caps, language selection and switching, predictive text is in process of working
[17:33] <attente> bfiller, great, thanks!
[18:13] <fginther> ogra_, sergiusens, do you know much about adb or know who might? We see a lot of our upstream merger makos and maguros fail to show up under adb after a flash.
[18:13] <fginther> we have to have them physically reset and they're fine again
[18:14] <ogra_> fginther, sergiusens has a bunch of pending fixes that should improve this
[18:15] <cjohnston> ogra_: for some reason it happens with the upstream merger devices alot more than the image testing devices
[18:15] <fginther> sergiusens, can I help get them merged?
[18:16] <fginther> it also hits the magorus much more frequently then the makos
[18:18] <sergiusens> ogra_, the phablet-tools ones? Those are all merged
[18:19] <sergiusens> fginther, cjohnston are they flashed the same way?
[18:19] <sergiusens> fginther, can I get some logs to look at?
[18:19] <fginther> sergiusens, sure
[18:20] <sergiusens> and are they all connected to the same box? The image tests and the merger ones
[18:20] <sergiusens> ?
[18:20] <fginther> sergiusens, they are on different hosts
[18:20] <fginther> sergiusens, here's a flash job : http://10.97.0.26:8080/job/touch-flash-maguro-014E058C18015006/configure
[18:21] <fginther> sergiusens, here's one stuck right now: http://10.97.0.26:8080/job/touch-flash-maguro-0149A91D0D013014/103/console
[18:22] <sergiusens> fginther, no need to wait-for-device; when ubuntu-system is flashed there is a 'wait for unity8' in there
[18:22] <fginther> sergiusens, and another: http://10.97.0.26:8080/job/touch-flash-maguro-014E058C18015006/146/console
[18:22] <sergiusens> fginther, yeah installation taking to long.... can we get syslog and dmesg from the box?
[19:15] <carif> does/will Touch support the nexus 5?
[19:17] <Noskcaj> carif, It will, but it will take some time
[19:17] <carif> Noskcaj, vg, ty
[19:28] <yoyo^> hello
[19:29] <yoyo^> can anyone help me with somme advices about an xperia U
[19:51] <szymon_w> Hi! don't know if this is right place to ask, but I'll try :) Is there somewhere documentation/tutorial on how to create truly convergence app for UT ? or maybe even examples ? I know Karma Machine ( the winner of Ubuntu appshowdown ) have this convergence nicely done but I can not find a source for this app ( it should be open source if I'm not mistaking as any app taking part in ubuntu appshowdown had to be open s
[19:51] <szymon_w> ource ) Anyone can help ? ;>
[19:55] <roger-2013> any way to lock the screen on the latest image?
[19:55] <roger-2013> lock the phone, for security
[20:04] <successus> salud
[20:20] <Guest71081> hello
[20:33] <seepa> ogra_, can you give an update on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch/+bug/1237937 ?? it would be great if you could fix that bug. bug info is complete.
[20:39] <cwayne> stgraber, ping
[20:39] <ptitepoule> hi !
[20:41] <ptitepoule> there are not many phones Sony ..
[21:14] <steve-o> Just getting into Ubuntu Touch. I have it installed on a Nexus 4. Installed core apps but can't find emailclient on device.
[21:20] <popey> steve-o: there is no email client on the device
[21:32] <steve-o> Updated  today. Noticing my ubuntu-emailclient-app file is only 82 bytes long. That's some pretty efficient coding.
[21:33] <steve-o> popey: Ok...just saw your msg. Thanks. I have read conflicting reports on whether it exists or not.
[21:33] <popey> we're going to restart work on it this cycle
[21:34] <steve-o> Cool...can I toss in some thoughts on design/notifications etc. or is it still too early for that?
[21:34] <cyprushacks> hello gays
[21:34] <cyprushacks> i will ask something
[21:37] <popey> yeah, bit early
[21:42] <steve-o> i come from a blackberry background and back in the day they had the best notifications BY FAR. New BBs don't.
[21:42] <steve-o> Would like Ubuntu Touch to pick up BB's slack someday.
[22:11] <nik90> szymon_w: hmm I cannot find the source code either for karma machine
[22:11] <nik90> szymon_w: I am going to try to create a sample app with convergence to give it a shot myself
[22:12] <nik90> szymon_w: I would at one point need to do for the clock app anyways
[22:16] <szymon_w> nik90, I managed to dig this one out: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/+junk/convergence-view  mhall119 did it... but it would be cool to have official example code from canonical with short documentation...  so every app will use the same code pattern.
[22:20] <nik90> szymon_w: +1
[22:20] <nik90> szymon_w: Have you looked at the sample code in the sdk documentation in qtcreator?
[22:20]  * nik90 is looking at it now
[22:24] <szymon_w> nik90, I couldn’t find anything about converge in sdk documentation, maybe I missing something.
[22:25] <nik90> szymon_w: in qtcreator in the API tab, I see the convergence doc
[22:25] <nik90> szymon_w: it is called layouts
[22:25] <nik90> conditional layout, item layout etc
[22:27] <szymon_w> nik90, good find :)
[22:29] <nik90> szymon_w: :)
[23:04] <cwayne> stgraber, ping
[23:38] <nik90> Can anyone take a look at my code at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6338400/ and help me create a basic converged app?
[23:39] <nik90> It consists of 2 buttons which are presented as a column when in portrait mode (width < 50 units gu) and as a row in landscape mode (width > 50 units gu)
[23:39] <nik90> I have used the Ubuntu Layouts feature
[23:39] <nik90> zsombi ^^
[23:40] <nik90> szymon_w: ^^
[23:41] <nik90> I have a issue where when I go landscape mode, the buttons disappear
[23:41] <nik90> :(
[23:45] <szymon_w> nik90, this is what I got so far: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6338431/
[23:49] <nik90> szymon_w: hmm you do it quite differently from what I did
[23:50] <nik90> szymon_w: yours works but it seems like you basically create a new object for a particular size (phone or tablet)
[23:50] <nik90> while in the documentation, they create the objects only once and define the positioning and size inside the conditional layouts
[23:51] <nik90> which is what i tried to do and it doesn't work
[23:51] <nik90> I am not sure which one is efficient
[23:52] <nik90> I have a feeling that while your method works, we shouldnt be copying object definition such as Button{} and Page{} in each conditional layout
[23:52] <nik90> that would be too much duplicate code
[23:52] <szymon_w> nik90, I see what you mean... I tried to do it the way you are doing it and it didn't work for me too, this is why I tried this way and it kind of works.
[23:52] <nik90> szymon_w: I am going to check with the SDK devs, which there was a sample application
[23:53] <nik90> szymon_w: check out the latest bug in UITK
[23:53] <nik90> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1246930
[23:57] <szymon_w> nik90, nice! it works, although when in landscape the buttons get resized too, is it as it should be ?
[23:58] <nik90> szymon_w: basically the current layouts is requiring you to explicitly mention the sizes in both layout conditions
[23:58] <nik90> otherwise the size is too small to be visible
[23:58] <szymon_w> nik90, k